City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Would like to welcome you to this Bill City Council meeting for April the 16th. As I look in across the audience and I see uh citizens here as well as staff, specifically for the citizens, we say thank you for your presence and coming out to see your city council and our staff working to continue to move forward to establish policies and keep the city uh actively engaged in not only community activities but regional activities as well. Here at uh city of Fagville, we always open our meetings with prayer. And in this uh day, I've asked Dr. Nia Glover, councilwoman, to give us our opening prayer. Then we ask if you would be kind enough to stand and recite our pledge of allegiance together. Dr. Glover.

Yes, please. Heavenly Father, we come before you today asking for your guidance in the matters at hand. Help us to fully understand and implement the needs of the people for the betterment of the city. Help us to navigate any challenges with a solid mind, open heart, and a listening ear. Strengthen us in the face of adversities that we may face with resolution. God bless the city of citizens and staff. In your name we pray. Amen.

Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for accommodating. Please note that we have an agenda that has already been prepared. If you are a citizen and you want a hard copy of the agenda, you can get it from our city clerk, Miss Chelsea Seaman, but it will be projected on the screen for each element as we move along in the uh the meeting. At this time, we have the meeting prepared. Council members, what is your pleasure with the agenda?

Approved. Second. Properly moved and second. Any call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposes? Nay. Approval of the minutes of the March 19th, 2026 city council regular meeting. What is your pleasure? Move to approve. Second. Promptly moved and second. Any un readiness? Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

Any opposers? Name. Presentations and recognitions. Ladies and gentlemen, we always enjoy uh being able to recognize and uh uh especially when we have new staff members or staff members who uh achieve some things within uh their realm of responsibility. So, tonight we have Miss Brenda Williams, the uh utility billing manager who's going to come and to make a presentation. Brenda. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. I would like to welcome Miss Bienn Rosales to our customer service team and I would like to add the best team.

Welcome, Miss Rosales. I think uh you will eventually get an opportunity to meet all the council persons and uh we just welcome you aboard an outstanding city staff. Uh, I don't know if I'd agree with Brenda because I got my police chief back there and he carries a gun. So, uh, but but we welcome you to an outstanding staff here in the city of Fedville. Look to meeting you personally. Ladies and gentlemen, if there's no other recognitions at this time, we'd like to move on to public hearings. Consider ordinance number 26016 fiscal year 2026 fiscal year 2026 midyear budget amendment presented by our director of finance Mr. Oh,

you don't look like my Hello, Karen. How you doing? Miss Karen Austin.

So, I know we have a full room tonight, so I'm gonna try to be mindful of everybody's time, but tonight we're going to be talking about the midyear budget amendment for fiscal year 26. Mike brought a couple weeks ago a mid-year budget for SPS 2017 and SPLAS 2023. And tonight, we're going to talk about the operational budgets and what we needed to do to clean them up through February of this fiscal year. Um, for the adopted budget of fiscal year 2026, for the following funds, we had an adopted budget of 47,744,000. We're proposing to amend the budget for 14,922,000 for a proposed amended budget of 62,667,000. Moving on to the general fund. General fund we're had an adopted budget of $29,450,000. We're proposing to amend the budget of 10,997,000 to a proposed amended budget of 40,447,000. The largest amendment in this budget is going to be license and permits and that is for PTS. All the revenues we've collected for those permits for this fiscal year and we did increase taxes $411,000 and of those taxes were for prior year adjustments as well as insurance premium taxes for the fiscal year. We had some revenues for intergovernmental um as for grants. This included revenues for the LCI um charges for services. We're increasing the budget $57,000 and this was for court costs and revenues we had seen in there. Um and miscellaneous revenue $10,000 and other financing sources for $35,000. And this is just a screenshot of all the line items and they're in your packet if you wanted to see them in more detail. Um, but I'm just kind of going to flip through them here. And that just brings us, like I said, to the proposed budget minimum of 10,997,000. For the general fund expense summary,

um, we are broken up into several categories. Um, general government, judicial, public safety, public works, recreation. Um, in the general government, we increase the budget $367,000. of that budget adjustment. This is for salary and wages payable for multiple departments that are built in that general government and of that was the largest increase was we added the assistant city manager to the general fund that was previously funded in our enterprise fund. Um and then we saw some s some adjustments for PIO. Um they had a department that grow from one to four this fiscal year. So, we adjusted their budget and we did some line cleanup items in our um general government building judicial. We increased the budget $32,000. This was to update signing wages payable um just to get back to actual for the fiscal year. Our largest increase for the general fund is going to be in public safety as well as our housing and development budget. But public safety um this consists of police and fire and we did have a large expenditure in the police fund where we um purchased the property for the new public work the public safety municipal court headquarters. Um we also did some salary wages adjustment in the year for the transition of appointing the new police chief and then adding additional personnel into the building into the into the department I'm sorry. Um in in fire we did the same thing, adjusted their salary wages payable as well as we had some fire equipment that was purchased. So um that makes up the $4.2 million. Public works, we adjusted the budget $23,000. This is for salary, wages payable, same as recreation. We just updated to actual numbers through February. And then the largest portion was for housing and development. And this is the match expenditure for Safefield. We have a contract where we

pay for our permit that we collect the revenues, but then we pay safe bill a certain percentage. So that's just the offset of the revenue. In other financing uses, um we did have a contingency line item built in for some of the positions that were budgeted in public safety. We did reduce that contingency by $600,000, but then we've increased this budget to balance the budget um for the increased revenues just to match the expenditures in the budget. And then the following slides does show and reflect these changes that were in the budget. And if anybody wants to see these, we can meet and show them after the meeting. So that consists of everything for the general fund. So we're going to move on to special revenue funds. And in the special revenue funds for confiscated assets, we were asking to increase the budget $12,000. This is our seized fund where we get awarded cases that police officers are working on um at the airport and we get a portion of the proceeds of the cases that they're awarded in court. So this year we've seen an increase of those cases. So we're matching the revenues to the expenditures of 102,000. So we adopted the budget at $45,000 and we're proposing amending the budget to $147,000. Moving on to the hotel motel fund. Um we adopted a budget of $900,000. We're increasing this budget to $400,000 to a proposed budget of $1.3 million. And we've had an increase of hotel motel revenues. And so this transfers into the main street fund. So, we will have this budget that matches the Main Street budget. The Main Street budget, we adopted the budget 1,418,000. We're increasing at $400,000 and that's for the hotel motel revenue. And the new proposed budget will be $1,818,000.

Capital projects fund. Um, this is where we purchase all our capital outlay and we adopted a budget at $2,790,000. We're increasing this budget $257,000 to an amended budget of $3,48,000. We at when we adopted the budget, we did a lower lease um when we adopted it, we were going to do a lower um lease purchase for capital outlay, but we went in and did a larger amount. So, we're increasing it by $220,000. And then the projects that were allocated to these funds, we've just adjusted those numbers accordingly to what the capital out outlay that we purchased. Our TAD fund, we adopted the budget at $900,000 and we're increasing this budget by $365,000 to amended budget of $1.265 million. Our revenues that we've collected for TAD is at $1,210,000 for the year and this is through February. So we expect we'll probably increase this one at year end as well. Moving on to enterprise funds, the um only budget we're adjusting tonight is the water and sewer fund and we're increasing the budget from 12,240,000 to $14,640,000. And this is for the um lift station that we installed for the US soccer center. So we have an expenditure of $2.4 million with a match revenue from outside sources to fund that project.

And that's all I have if you have any questions. Okay. Thank you, Garrett. Appreciate you such a time. If I will ask council members if they have any questions for Miss Austin on the amended budget. Hearing none. Are there any questions from the citizens? Again, hearing none. At this time, I'll bring it back to the Diaz and ask the council members. What is your pleasure with ordinance number 2616?

Second properly moved and second that we approve any unreiness. Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposers? N. All right. Consider resolution number 26R15 authorizing staff to transmit the capital improvement elements 2026 update for fiscal year 2025 to to the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Georgia Department of Affairs for review in accordance with requirements pursuant to Georgia Planning Act of 1989. presented by our director of planning and zoning, Miss Julie Brown, who will also introduce the guests presenter.

Good evening. I am actually my staff report is in the packet, but Miss Paige Hatley from Rosson Associates is here to present the update to you tonight. Miss Paige.

Thank you, Julie, and good evening, uh, council. I appreciate the opportunity. Um I do just have a very brief uh PowerPoint uh that covers what is in your packet. Sorry. Thank you. Perfect. Appreciate it. Uh which is a basically it's a status report that is required of all communities in the state that collect development impact fees uh which are a one-time fee collected from new development to help pay for the cost of expanding public facilities that are needed to serve that development. in Fagetville that specifically means parks, police, fire, and road projects. Oopsie, wrong way. Okay. Uh, so I I want to relate this annual reporting requirement to um a master document that you have that also is required of all impact fee communities. It's called a capital improvements element. It was adopted in 2018 and it is the master listing of all long range projects over the next 20 years that are needed to serve future growth. So while that's a requirement that that 2018 document is still valid, but the Georgia Department of Community Affairs or DCA on an annual basis wants a status of those projects. They basically want to know what's going on with every community's development impact fee program. So that's what brings us here tonight. they require a public hearing to receive any public comment on that brief annual update report that's in your packet. Um, and then formal um, authorization is required uh, via resolution uh, that allows council to give the okay to move the draft document into the review pipeline. Um, the DCA has set a deadline for the city of June 30th of each year for adoption. And so this is typical coming before you in April gets it moving and gets uh allows sufficient time for review and ultimate adoption by

council. Two main components comprise the brief report. The first is financials. So this is a summary table from the previous fiscal year. Uh it contains all the information mandated by the state. Um so what was collected? Have there been any expenditures? What's expected or what's available? what are the balances uh for the fund accounts for parks, fire, police, and roads. What's not shown here, but is included in the packet are detailed tables addressing each of the public facility categories. So for parks and recreation, for example, there's another table that pulls forward from the 2018 CIE, all of the projects eligible for funding, and then just gives a status of each. So a little bit more detail, but what is shown here is the bare minimum required by the state. The second component is a five-year work program. Again, it harks back to the 2018 adopted CIE pulling forward eligible projects into this nearterm schedule. Uh what are estimated completion years, cost estimates? Is there any other funding source besides impact fees? Um and this is just an excerpt from the larger table u that highlights the type of projects expected to be coming online. It's a rolling table. So every year we uh drop a year, add a year um to satisfy the uh state requirements. Finally, um after the public hearing, uh as mentioned, there's formal authorization by considering a resolution to move the draft to Atlanta Regional Commission who will then route it to DCA. After DCA pro uh undertakes their review, we come back with the DCA approved document for you to adopt. It can be on consent agenda. No public hearing is required. And we're looking at your regular schedule meeting of June 18th. And then getting the adopted document to DCA, they will automatically

extend your QLG status for another year. Uh which if if needed uh makes uh the community eligible for certain uh state grant and loan programs. Um so that is an overview of this requirement that is uh needed to check the box to make sure that the community is in good standing with respect to its impact program and happy to take any questions. Thank you very much this time. Um council members do you have any questions? Are there any citizens who may have questions on CI? Yes, sir.

Please come up to the mic. Give us your name and your address, please, sir. Uh, hey, uh, Jesse Brooks, 7:30 Becky Court. It was a really quick question. I apologize. Um, uh, the Fiser Road extension. Uh, which Fiser Road is that? Thanks. Any other questions from citizens? Seeing a hearing none, council members, what is your pleasure with resolution 26R15? Move to approve uh resolution 26-r.

Robin moved and second. Any unreiness call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. any and consider resolution 26R16 100 Victoria on the accept the acceptance consideration or the approval of applications for new development bait shops and massage establishments within presented by Miss Julie Brown. Good evening again.

Yes ma'am. So, as you know, we imposed a 30-day moratorum on March 5th, uh, barring the acceptance of any new applications for all development of housing and any new applications for occupational tax license for massage establishments and vape shops. So, city staff is working with a consultant on updating our UDO and we feel like we really need to extend this moratorum for up to 180 days while we work to get the uh UDO ready for presentation to PNC and city council for adoption. So, we're requesting the updated moratorum be approved, but this will also add in all commercial applications. So, we wouldn't accept any new applications for any commercial or residential development. And we also will continue to not accept applications for occupational tax of any vape shops or um massage establishments. It won't affect any projects that are already in the queue. It would just be new development moving forward until we get the UDO adopted. If we can get it finished before the 180 days, then we can come back and ask that it be dissolved. But we think we're going to need six months.

Thank you, Julie. I think it's wise that we uh slow things down a little bit until the U deal revision gets completed and u so especially those businesses that uh were not necessarily um desired or they're growing too fast and too numerous. I think this is a good options for the council to embrace. So council members, any other questions? Yes, Julie. Question for you. Now you said before up to 180 days but this year said 180 days. So is it an additional 180 days or a total of 180?

Well the current moratorum was 30 days and it is set to expire tomorrow. So this would be a new moratorum for 180 days up to 180 days if you know like I said if we're finished with the UDO earlier if we're not we could possibly come back and ask for an extension again but we think six months is a good timeline. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions from council? Yes, Patrick. It says 180 days and I realize that she's saying up to. We actually need to change this to say up to or will they need back to us? No, no, it is the the moratorum is 180 days is kind of the default. Okay.

But you can terminate early. It terminates if you adopt a new UDO. it will automatically terminate or if you adopt a resolution to terminate. So that's why we're saying up to it's gonna be a pretty tight timeline to get the 180 days. Sorry. I'm hope hoping we can get that done within 180. It's going to be tight schedule. No, I just wanted to make sure sometimes if it says a hard 180 days, you need to know if if you finish before then then what right? What's that next step? So no confusion, just a point of clarification.

Thank you. Any other council members? Are there any who have a question on this resolution? Please come to microphone, sir. Please state your name, your address, and uh your question, please.

Thank you, mayor. Uh my name is Bill Burke. I'm a resident uh in the county on Veterans Parkway right near um Trill Village. My question goes to this moratorum. We live in the county and three of my neighbors got together. We would like to be pended and brought in annexed into the city. We're affected by the use of the mortorium and we understand generally that the UDO is meant to define which areas promote which kind of uh residences and businesses. What we're trying to establish is uh when would we be able to apply first stage to annex into the city while we wait for the UDO to eventually get worked sorry to get worked out so that we can move forward. What we would like to do is uh bring our proposal back to the planning and zoning to build a nice uh residential uh plot there. We had a discussion over the last year and then it was stopped because of the moratorum and I I got a little snippet today from one of the other planners that this has to do with legal alignments of what normally goes in the zoning and then how we understand how the planning and zoning understands are we completely within legal guidelines that affect from outside in and and inside out so that there's no way to challenge the uh appropriateness of the UDF. So my my general question just goes to that. When will when when would me and my neighbors be allowed to apply to annex into the city?

Does anybody know? Thank you. So you would not be able to apply for annexation until the moratorum is over and we're open to accepting applications again. Okay. Any other questions from the citizens? Seeing and hear none. Council members, what is your pleasure with 26 R 16? Move to approve. Second. Probably move and second. Any unreiness? Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

Any oppose? Name. Ladies and gentlemen, we move on to consent agenda items. These four items are listed as consent agenda uh items which means that we discuss each and every one of them individually. Uh the uh staff has provided information adequate information to the council. We will take them as a group of resolutions that we are grouping and approving together. Consent agenda items 26, excuse me, 26R14, the re reinstatement of self-funded medical plan summary description for our plan year 2026. 26R17, items declared surplus. 26R18 assignment in assumption of memorandum of understanding. 25 R61 from Meridian Investors LLC to pay a bill apartments owner LLC for Meridian on the square development and 26R19 the establishment steering committee for the city and bill's comprehensive plan update. Members, what is your pleasure with the consent agenda?

Move to approve the consent agenda. Second. Roughly moved in second. Any unreadiness? Yeah, I just it's not I just have a question, Ray. The method of communication for 26 R14 because this will then become the Bible if you will for um for this plan. This is the Bible. So, what methods are we using to we're communicating uh to all of staff making sure or and then do they have to sign acknowledgements? What's that? Because council needs to know those steps. come in for that. Sure. Uh good evening. Good evening.

So, uh once it's approved, it will be put on um our UMR uh website for the updated uh plan. It will also be placed in employee navigator, which is our bin admin system, and it will be emailed to all employees. Are they required to sign off on anything or acknowledge receipt? No, they are not. Uh they they can go in and view uh and the SPD is the summary plan description. It just says what's covered, what's not covered, how much is covered in our medical plan since we're selfunded. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. You're welcome.

Any other questions on the consent agenda? Council members, what is your pleasure? Move to approve the consent agenda. Do I have a second? Second. J been properly moved and second. Any unreiness? Call for the vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposers? Name. Ladies and gentlemen, items for discussion tonight. The city cemetery funy presented by the president of the friends of the historic Fedville cemetery, Miss Gail Jenkins. She will come forth and present to the council.

I come to you guys um asking for consideration of funding of the JJ Jackson grant. Um, it is a grant that I think every six months if I'm rightly every six months that is sent to the city of Fateville. Um, JJ Jackson was a merchant here in Faget County. Um, his father owned a store. He bought up a lot of real estate. He made well on it. He had $4.5 million in the bank and they draw the interest. Um, five different entities in the county. Well, I think it not in the county because Young Harris gets some money in another place up in Raven, but there are like six of us, five five or six of us that get money. We get 7.5% of the interest off the $4.5 million. So, I am requesting if you would look into um letting the cemetery have these funds for um our maintenance that we're doing or at least half of what Michael gets in from the um Bank of America Lynch that handles the trust fund. Um we have been um diligently working in the cemetery. This is our fifth year. We are a 501c3 and I feel like we have made leaps and bounds in improving um the cemetery and what we've done. Um this is the first time that we've come back after money and one of my requests is because we did not get a $10,000 grant that we had gotten previously. It was cut down to 3500. So, if we were to get 7,000 of the 14,000 or so that the grant is um to trust money that comes into the city, then we would be able to continue to

work like we've done and that will get us through the the fiscal year. that we are making a lot of improvements with reaching out to QTS is um stepping up with us and helping us to make some big changes in the cemetery as well as Brent Scarbor and hit um out there at QTS. So, you're going to see a lot of great things happening in the cemetery in the next three or four months, hopefully sooner than than you know than later. So, um, I encourage you to get out and look at at our cemetery and what we're doing and what we have done and how we will continue to improve. So, I'm going to leave it at if you would please consider um letting us have that funding. Michael um is working with trying to find out how this could be filtered u and doing it correct way. We have spoken several times and I will do my part in partnering with making sure that we turn all of our receipts over to them in case we're audited. I have no problem with the money continuing to be funded through and uh because it's really a good checks and balances for us to have it where somebody else is overseeing what we're doing and that we're there's no embezzling or we're not like you know going out to eat at Longhorns every Friday night or something. So that's good for us to have that checks and balances for us to see um you know that Michael's going to double check me and vice versa. So that's all we need.

So you're ask for the 50% of the 50% the 14,000 Mike approximately I just want to say thank you for your leadership. Oh you're welcome. My pleasure. and you new council members. It's nice to meet both of y'all and put on your work clothes and be ready to come out there on May the 16th when we're having a big workday with QTS. I wrangle chickens. It's not a problem for me. We will feed you. Okay, we will feed you. Really? QTS will feed you. But anyway, thank you so much for your consideration.

Again, again, let me say uh you may not be caught up at the Longhorns, but I saw you at Franks for gas. In all honesty, ladies and gentlemen, let me make a personal comment. Uh, since the friends of the cemetery took over maintain, it is incredible the work that you guys accomplish. I know that you rely a lot on some of the city of public works staff to help you with what you all are doing and getting volunteers out there and even made a point to focus on the African-American section of the cemetery. that says a lot about uh you know the quality of commitment that you all have made to our cemetery. So thank you very much. Uh any other comments from the council members? Do I have a motion on this request?

It's just a discussion item. So I would I would like to take it to a motion. I think we need to save 50% of the Thank you Mr. Jack. I'd like to make a motion to approve 50% of the JJ Jackson uh grant to the Friends of the Historic Fable Cemetery Group. Second. Proudly moved and second. Any unreadiness vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

Any opposers? Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. We'll now move on to reports and comments as we approach the uh conclusion of this meeting. Do we have a need for executive session? Yes, we do. Okay, we do. Okay. Okay, we'll make that motion. Uh, city manager,

uh, it's that time of year, mayor and council, a lot of events are going on, a lot of the park. I'm not going to walk through them while they're out on the overhead. I will mention though that we do have Georgia Cities Week that will be u participating in April 20th or April 25th. a lot of events going on here city regarding that week. So, and that's it from me. Thank you very much, city manager. Uh, city attorney, anything? Nothing. Okay. Any council members? Anything?

I'd just like to say welcome to our new customer service representative. Um, welcome to the city of Favville's team. And I'd like to say great presentation in finance. uh for my career was uh corporate finance. You know, it's not easy getting in front of people talking about numbers and all of that and making sure to unpack at least what you think are those critical things. And so, great presentation. Thank you for that as well. Anything else?

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we now open the floor for public comments. This is an opportunity for the citizens to come forward and to address the council on any issue, concerns, compliments, constructive criticism. Uh we ask that you be considerate. If you have something that uh is that you're very passionate about, we express your passion and uh I think in a very calm and uh considerate respectful way. Um but come up and give us your name. You have three minutes to voice what's on your mind, please. The floor is open. Again, please sign in after you uh make sure that we have your appropriate name and address.

Okay. My name is Wanda Clark and I'm a resident of St. Andrews Place uh subdivision right off of White Road. And as a retired educator, you always give the gloves before you give I want to give the city council some gloves of some positive things I see going on in the city. the parks and the roads are looking a little cleaner and I see some um communities that are being built that are not lowering the um standard but trying to at least uh bring it up some. Some of the areas where I think we need to really consider is I was really concerned about uh in uh St. Andrew's place in a two-mile radius there are six liquor stores. Uh and every time I go by there there's one or two cars. So, please be sensitive about putting, you know, more of that into Fagville. Second, uh, within a mile, there are six mile, mile and a half, there are six dollar stores, and I think we can do better. Um, and as far as, you know, limiting all the dollar stores, and I know one doesn't is not getting a lot of business because the one I go to is very busy. Uh, third, um, I drive down 314 meeting with other retired educators. me and I go from 3:14 all the way to where you turn off of the airport. And I've been noticing I says, "Well, you know, it's um within the city it's pretty pretty clean, but as you pass the pavilion and go further down 314, you see a lot of trash." And so for the last month or so, I've been crossing over um 138 into Riverdale, and the roads are fabulous. I I counted two pieces of paper all the way to the airport. No uh bottles, plastic, nothing. But then I noticed a friend was telling me they have their prisoners in the city count uh county jails. They're out there twice a week picking pick picking up trash. And I know we have a jail and is that a possibility that

maybe some of our prisoners can pick it up because you know it looks kind of bad when you go to Fedville and you thought and you see all this trash on the side of both 314 but you cross over into Riverdale and it's gorgeous. The roads are clean on both sides of the road. There's no trash, no garbage. So I was thinking why can't some of the prisoners that taxpayers are helping to you know care for? I mean once or twice a week pick up trash down there because it does it does send a wrong signal and I was offended when one of my other literacy coaches said well you know you living in Fagdale now I said what do you mean Fedale it's Fedville she says well you're looking more like Riverdale so I just want to bring that you know it kind of hurt me because you know I moved here because of the school system and because my daughter graduated did well at NYU and this school helped get her full scholarship to NYU. So, you know, like I said, I see a lot of good things going on, but please be aware. Please, no more liquor stores. One is closing up. I heard it's closing up. There's no business, but I don't think you should see a, you know, six or seven uh liquor stores within a six mile radius.

Thank you, Miss Clark. You you've brought these issues before council before. Uh please keep informed. We have a moratorum on package stores, so there will be no more package stores in Fedville. Uh with regards to the highway, our staff is very diligent about cleaning up 314 all the way down to the city's line. Uh I make a personal comment as well as visit to those areas you've talked about and anytime I see trash, which is very rarely, I uh inform our public works director and our city manager need our staff out there. So, I understand your concern, but uh I would resent anyone who consistently say that we do we fium look like Riverdale. I've heard that in multiple town halls. I resent it. Is not the case.

That is that is the county. So, if you've got an issue with that, please go talk to your county board of commissioners. Okay.

I I would just like to say you know sometime first of all because I I don't think I've ever met you um oftentimes other places company this case cities do thing but we may not know all the intricate details and you were inquiring about using the assistance of people who are going through challenges whatever that looks like right? um be delicate about those situations because we don't know if those are private companies and if there's some type of leasing or employment situations. And so there are so many different things to look at when we see things and sometimes we think we understand everything that we're seeing when we see that and sometimes we don't. And um I get what you're saying, you know, but um it's not always the best um approach to copy someone else's method. Um but I do hear you.

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I know some of the concern on that in the past has been we have to pay for the one officer over them. It's like it's the regular salary and plus a vehicle. So I know that was an issue in the past, but it's something we could definitely look into as part of I know Mr. Clark has been pushing pretty hard to do the cleanup pay of bill initiative which we're going to talk more about that next week in one of our meetings. So you'll start to see more of that happening more cleanup happening throughout the city. Any other wish come Uh Jesse Brooks again. Um uh regarding the uh keep Fateville beautiful cleanup day. Uh and this actually I think relates to the previous question. Um, I know that in some cases some of the trash that we might be seeing or maybe some of the junker junkier areas along the highway are sometimes properties where the owner does not live there or there's not still a home or a family or a business that's in business there. Um, I'm thinking of, uh, as we're picking up litter, if there are properties in our neighborhood or area that have large amounts of trash, but we don't have permission to go and clean that up, um, what would be the best process for that? Um, and then I also had a question about the, um, the comprehensive plan coming up. I've heard that uh we're taking applications online for citizens that would like to take part and just wanted some information about that.

See, mad information which goes to our website as well that should be launched online now. So those applications um as far as the complaints on people property are unsightly aesthetically unpleasing areas. I would just go through fix online and put it in there and our code enforcement will get the information. Thank you. I just want to note too that the plan is to move eventually we're going to talk to council about this next week moving our code enforcement into the police department. Okay.

And we're kind of changing that process up a bit. So a lot of more more citations going out. I don't mean but we're going to see more citations going out because we're going to start cleaning up our city a bit better.

Thank you. Thank my name is Carmen Johnson Tugle and um I live in the villages of Lafayette Park and I wanted to get a clarification. regarding the hotels that are going to be in front of the Hampton and why has there not been any movement for a while? You don't see anyone working and I want to know if something happened and is still going to be two hotels built there.

I know the um home two suites stalled for a little while and it's back up and moving now and they're going to be completing that. The town place suites. Yeah. Once the home two suites is built, then um there's supposed to be a commercial corner piece that's also going to be built at the same time as the next hotel, which is downplay suite. So, but the home two suites will be done first and then you'll see the other one built. Okay. Thank you.

Yeah. Any other citizens who should come? Uh, my name's Robert Holly. I've been here a couple times to every one of your meetings because I'm not tired of things getting done without even knowing about it. And I have a problem with people dumping in the d in the dumpsters in the city and they're not even part of that community. Okay, we got police force. Can't they go in there and watch the dumpsters? We're paying the dumpster fees for our our like Magnolia office complex. We get it dumped three times a day or three times a week and people go in there and dump household stuff in there. Couches, chairs, mattresses, and whatever else. They do it when nobody's seeing them. I put signs up on the open up. Doesn't do good. But we're having the same problem with every dumpster in the city, people. And part of it is because the city isn't doing the city dump anymore. It's contracted out. Pricers are getting so high, people don't want to pay that high price. Used to be able to take it truckload of wood from your yard, pay five bucks for it. Now they charge you by weight because you guys now contracted it out to Waste Industrial. So the price keeps going up. I took two loads in my truck and just wood, which wouldn't be wood for the one area. It would be deck

decking. It cost me $158 for two half load on 8 foot box. So let me ask the question. Um the dumps as you referred to are they on private property or public property? I'm talking about this state city dump right here just on the other side of graves or not graves but uh county dump. So it's not the city dump. It's a county that's damage that runs that. Correct. County

county. Okay. My mistake on that. So that has nothing to do with the city. But the city we pay for polices. Can't they go by and watch these dumpsters and make sure no overnight dumping is in these dumps? Once again, sir, just informed you that that's the county. Our police officer is right here, Magnolia office complex. That's in the city. Well, I'm saying please have our police force watch all these dumpsters. I I don't I don't I don't think that's a good use of police services. I'm going to be honest. I think code enforcement could be out there checking that. But I also Are they enclosed? They're supposed to be enclosed. I want They are enclosed, but they open them up and then they leave them open.

You have keys to lock them. And then you can't do that with 66 units. Everybody would have keys everywhere. We tried locking it for a while, but it's not just my We could have code. It's not my office complex only. We're getting dumped. We're not going to know exact supposed to be dumping. Yeah. Yeah, cameras are good. We did that for a little while, but it didn't work because people knew where the cameras were. But I've seen cops going policemen going in there and driving in the parking lot, maybe making a special trip just to go and check out the dumpster.

Even if someone's dumping in there, they're not going to know first person unless they ask approach and say, "Hey, do you I do when I see someone in there and I'm dumping from my own units." Yeah. automatically look, are you from one of these units? And here, what unit are you from? I even had a police come out and he he looked at this one box that had an address on it. It wasn't even it was something out of tr. Well, he ended up contacting her and she came and got it out. What about a What about a Ray? What is the um ordinance on that? It's it's trespass first of all if they're doing that, but I would recommend putting a sign. We have a sign.

We have a sign and and it does say violators will be prosecuted and all of that. And so, but it's not it's not that part bothers people. Yeah. What bothers people is when they get caught. Well, that's what any of Nope. They get caught. It's only legal or it's only illegal if you get caught. That's what they say. I mean, it sounds like you have the the deterrenes in place. Um, obviously if if something happens, you've already have the trespass things up there. That I mean, Patrick, I don't know any other recommendations other than

I mean the it's a pract if a police officer sort of parks a car and just sits there, chances are nobody shows up. there'll be nobody to catch that police officer sitting in a parking lot as rather than patrolling the streets. If what you instead do is have the police officers while they're on the patrol pull through these private communities occasionally. The only thing that's going to happen is if you know in 24 hours a day, the two minutes when the officer drives through is that the two minutes somebody's dumping their trash and does the officer have time and in doubt approach and inquire? I mean, it's it's yeah, I get it. It's a serious problem if I'm the owner of the dumpster facility, but there are some practical limitations I think that that the city has to be aware of. And I think that goes to to Ray's point is um

code enforcement there's always is you are always prioritizing law enforcement and obviously if if the city wants to prioritize that police presence there but I I I just don't know if that's the proper use of your limited but you know I would think from a private enforcement standpoint they're not constrained you know private property owners aren't constrained by you know the pest constitution and the fourth amendment and you're not responsible for controlling the rest of the city. So there could be a private solution that may be more effective than the

but it's not just pass it's happening throughout the city though because the farther the city expands the more this is going to happen. It's not just certain units. It's everything. People like to do things where they don't have to which which makes the practical problem worse, right? I mean, how you know, we've got I don't know how many officers are on duty and he three or four units and

and if there's if there's 20 if there's 50 dumpster sites, I don't think a police officer could patrol all of those in a day. So I mean it it's a practical problem and and I don't think anybody wants it to continue but I think he is limited by manpower and resources to patrol and police that unless it's sizes. We just let our police know and let a code enforcement know and keep an eye out for that type of activity to ask questions when they're they see someone dumping in there. Ask questions. I do. Well, our guys will too. We truly know that

tricks solution. I know it's an expanse, but I I do be saying, you know, this may be an opportunity. I It is an expense, but it sounds like it's certainly beyond a nuisance. Private security may be helpful to assist with that. certainly because otherwise you're you're faced against officers facing a priority on calls and certainly don't want to risk you know having to use those resources that way. I I know that that's an expense to you. I know and and get I get it right but that just may be something you want to consider even if it's just one patrol security officer. Anything else sir?

No. Thank you. Any other citizen would like to come?

Did you forget to say something? Miss Gale. Yeah, we said 50%. You got 50%. Don't push.

Not about that. Um, I've got a couple of answers for a couple of your your uh issues. First of all, the lady that said that you u were seeing all the trash throughout this county. I'm seventh generation tech county and I really as the mayor don't like the comment that whoever it is that your friend stated about the city of fa looking like Riverdale. It is nowhere close to what Riverdale is. And I saw old national that happened to them. I saw what happened to Riverdale. You're lucky to live here if you live in Fatville. Okay. I would have never repeated it to these fine people, but Right. Okay. For one of your um things that you said about the prisoners out there, and Miss Moltry said it as well, you don't know who those people are hired from. I can tell you because I've reached out to Barry Bab, our sheriff, who would be your county person, um that would take care of the area. We do not send prisoners out of Fate County into the county to pick up trash. It is a liability now. And I asked them about coming to work in the cemetery. So, I pretty much covered every avenue to get anybody to come out there and help. They cannot do that. Now, could you go to a judge like Judge Jason Thompson who has started all these programs and say, you know, uh, can some of the people from your DUI school or, um, people that are repeat offenders come out and possibly do that? Yes, but that's going to be through the state or through the county. It's not going to be through the city available. And for for your problem with the dumpsters, if that was my problem, I'd be sitting out there with a gun. I just want to say on the record that the city of Fville is not endorsing any violence of any kind.

Not talking about violence. I don't believe that person would come back uh and do that again. And for you to make a bold statement that is happening all over the city. Have you seen it happen in all the dumpsters? All that's a bold remark. We need to take we need to bring this back in. All sir, that means all of the retail property that has dumpers behind it. Miss Gale, Miss Gale, let me let me take control. Thank you very much. I appreciate your comments. If I could just add to Miss Clark, um, when I first started here, she used to come to me a lot. A lot of times we talk about cleaning up the city and I want to give her kudos for that. Yeah. Yeah.

There's other ways to tackle the problem. Yeah. in walking in walking and picking up trash. All right. Thank you, Gail. Appreciate you. All right. Any other citizens? What took you so long?

I know. I try to sit through Philip Money Red Wine Road. I I love coming to the meeting because I love being here and I love hearing everybody's perspective on this particular location because for all intents and purposes I'm relatively new. I got compared to most cities my brother over here I want to definitely talk to you because I know what you're feeling because I happen to live on very wide road. Mr. Money I'm sorry I'm going to ask you a matter of protocol. Don't address him. If you have something for the council, if you have something to share, gentlemen, please do.

My mistake. I apologize. I

What I wanted to share was I live on Red Wine Road. The problem stems from bad actors. That's all this is about. We have bad actors among us and bad actors always do what they do, circumventing them. I get up, I pick up trash on the road because I have a 270 front. I can't babysit it. Bad actors are going to be bad actors. So, I get out there and I clean it up. The same thing I believe. I don't want to act like I know, but I believe is the same thing that is being brought to you about these dumpsters. We have individuals that have a I don't care attitude and they're bad actors and they're making it bad for everybody and making it uncomfortable for everybody. So, as far as having a resolution, hell, if I had that, I'd probably own America. So, I don't have a resolution. The only thing I would say is in closing is this. If you see it, maybe if you take a picture, get a license plate and feed it to the locals, maybe they can do something. And you can do that very discreetly without a compensation, but you're never going to change the behavior of that out. And

I think once we put this strategy into play that we're going to do for the cleanup Fville, I think less you'll see less people doing that because I know we're watching. Sounds good to me. All right, let me get out of the way. No, he's not. Don't tell him.

All citizens are welcome to share their thoughts and opinions. Thank you very much, Councilwoman. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, at this point, we're going to bring this to a close unless there's someone who has something else to want to bring before the council. We have to go to an executive session. And at this time, I will enterain entertain the motion that we go to executive session to talk real estate and litigation. Second properly moved and second. Any unreadiness? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Ladies and gentlemen, you're welcome to hang around. We don't know how long we'll be. We will report out once we finish.