City Council - Regular Meeting

0.92 acre or so and a little two-bedroom ranch house. Your garage is attached? Well, it's a breezeway. Yeah, it is attached. How are you today?

Fine, yourself? We're going to give you a hundred and forty-four square feet.

Twelve hundred and forty-four square feet. I used to run a second facility. I just want to put a porch in there. That's all I want. But that takes away from your square footage if you've got a shed.

And then you could...

pull the deer from my she shed yeah that might work too that just work out of that

I didn't think about that. I'm going to stick one everywhere I can. As soon as I start driving, I heard that one.

How are you?

good evening and welcome to the committee meeting for the city of fairview park on september 14th 2026. the meeting is now called to order i would like to hand it off to the mayor for a presentation on the balkan park bullpen i'd like to turn it over to andy if you'd like to come to the center dear thank you

good evening thanks for having me mayor has everyone received like the slide deck well yeah thank thank you all thanks for having me appreciate it and appreciate that you have me up front so that's this is good um so you were provided some some information uh in a deck form that um that i and uh ai put together so i don't know i could take all the credit that's uh today's technology the um the headline is Well, first of all, let me just step back. I'm almost a 25-year resident of Fairview Park. I raised my family here. I grew up on the east side. Love it here. Will always be here. And I have two sons. They're both at the high school, a junior and a freshman. But I guess more importantly, my wife and I have been very active in the community. I've coached, obviously, my sons, but even younger boys up through, and they're getting to that sweet spot in their age. And long story short, we spend a lot of time in the various parks, including Bulkin Park. I'm a baseball guy. I've played baseball my whole life, played in college, that kind of thing. This is not about me. This is about the community. It's about these kids, and beyond that, the adult leagues that play up at the park and I looked at the agenda for today, by the way. There's some incredible stuff for you guys to talk about and kick around. This is a recreational request. I acknowledge that. This is not a critical ask, but in the world of recreation, if you will, and sports and participation and community endeavors. To me, having been around sports teams and my sons being involved in them and then their friends and my nieces, et cetera, et cetera, it is an incredible way to spend time in a very productive way. So I support youth athletics and just athletics in general, just a big part. big supporter and what I'm asking of you all is to essentially grant permission for a bump out of the existing field one at Bulkin. So what that means is there's a fenced in varsity baseball field beyond the high school. Other teams play there, but the dimensions are set for, actually it's set for 14U travel baseball. So if you know travel baseball leagues, every year you progress through, the distances change, and then the equipment requirements become more closely aligned with high school rules, high school baseball. so um the 14 u leagues also play up at that field which are high school distances and things like that so this is for basically 14 year olds and up and so what i'm proposing is to build what are referred to as baseball bullpens or pitching bullpens it's actually going to be one bumped out on the third baseline, but it's going to be two raised mounds, two lanes, so the opposing side can come over. And if you know that field, doing one on each side is a little tricky. Actually, I think logistically the first base side is a part of the drainage, and it goes to a drain in the far right corner. Plus there's not a lot of room, and there's a track there. It gets complex. But on the third baseline, it's perfect. It's just three wall fenced in, bump out, two raised mounds, two throwing lanes, and Obviously, this would be nice to have. This is something that every other program has, every other varsity field. I'm at a lot of them. My youngest son, who's a freshman now, played like 73 games this summer. So we see a lot of fields. Everyone has this type of setup. So it's partly to level up. Fair, you know, we're we're thought of in a certain way and I never liked that never appreciated that If I'm gonna invest in this community, it's gonna be to raise the standard raise the bar And that's really what this is or actually this gets us to status quo in my opinion But I'm happy to do it. I think it is Again, it's recreational, but there is no place to adequately warm up, prepare to come into a game during the game. The other side obviously would have access to it as well. And more importantly, in-season training. There's just no raised mounds where these pitchers, my sons included if they choose to, um can adequately perform and train prior to the actual in-game experience but the in-game experience is really the key so um so what you have before you is a proposal obviously for permission like i said um i've done a lot of the legwork uh to line up the contractors and that the reason i did that is for two reasons the timing is important i know you guys were off first this back half of the summer. Now, obviously, you're back in session. In order to install it properly, there needs to be, I believe, three days of 40 degrees or warmer because you've got to do some earthworks. You've got to move the dirt around a little bit, although it is very flat there. There will be very limited disruption. And then limestone bed and then the turf. So this will be the first endeavor, which I know – Terry's really excited about of turf surface because field one if you know that field is still natural it's actually beautiful as far as natural fields go we have a gem we have a gem but it's not complete because we don't have what I'm proposing um the uh oh the timing so Getting on these contractor schedules takes a little bit. I've worked hard to get them committed to being able to install it before it gets too cold. As long as we, as long as you can give it the proper approval. So what happens is a couple of things. The fence installation, the post can go in. It'll be 70 by 20. It needs to be at least 60 because that's the distance from home plate to pitching mount. So we're going to put a little bit of room behind, a little bit of room behind catcher side. three-way fence and just tie into the existing field. So the posts will go in and they can still install the turf, move the earth around, put the limestone in, build up, put the turf surface down, and then the fencing can come back and then wrap the fence and it'll match what's there. It'll look beautiful. And then the raised mounds are going to be made out of state. They're delivered here, and then they're just laid down and set. And they're just, you've seen a pitching mound. If not, it's, I don't even know, probably 10 feet by 4 or 5 feet wide. But these are metal-framed, poured concrete, turfed, very rigid. They'll last forever. Cool. There's a lot of options when it comes to that, but in three years, I'll be up here again trying to replace them. I'm not interested in that. I want to put something that will last 50 years. That's essentially what these guys have promised. Again, as long as they can get it in. The reason why it's important to get it in before weather, basically my goal would be before November 1st. is because you wrap around April, they're practicing, the teams are practicing. If installation happens in April, then It's disruptive, number one. Number two, they can't use them. They can't use them until the season starts, the season gets cooking. May and June, it's over. So that's what's in front of me. This would be my investment in the community, my personal investment. I've done other things for the high school. I don't necessarily want to talk about that in a public forum because I like to actually be anonymous. this is impossible for me to be anonymous but I've made similar investments and in other aspects of the school the high school and equipment and things like that and again I'm happy to because I just I believe in that so unless there's questions or comments anything I also have an ask of Carrie and the rec department as well and I actually didn't put it in the deck because I don't believe it's your responsibility but would appreciate your your comments if you have any is that we I am recommending that there's more of an effort and again this is nothing against care he just happens to be sitting there I didn't know he's going to be here Just giving priority to the high school team when we need to schedule on field one. In my opinion, I'm happy to do this, but really this is first for Fairview teams. I know, obviously, people pay to play there. They come from all over, and they're going to have access to this, and that's great. But what also, again, I've lived through this, the 14 U teams, they get bumped a lot. The Fairview teams get bumped off the field. It's not ideal. I'm not making a lot of noise about it, but I would love to sit with you and talk about a plan, if that's okay. Thank you. Any questions, comments? Yes, sir. Really nothing. I looked at different options where you could put a mound and then a home plate area and then just have the natural grass, which is already there in between. That would be a big problem. That would be a maintenance problem. You have to get in there. You probably have to use a push mower or a weed whip. This would be turf edge to edge, corner to corner. Nothing. It's strange. So if you know the other side, there's a batting cage that is turfed. I spend a lot of time there. I throw with these boys. I throw with my own sons. I throw, they hit. That thing is set. I don't know when it was built, but that's the same philosophy. That actually has grass inside the fence along the edge, which I don't completely understand. I don't want to do that. The turf is going to be to the fence. That's why you put the posts in first, so then they're going to put the turf all the way, and then they're just going to wrap it, and then the mounds will be set in there. Does that answer your question?

That's true. The drainage also, if you want to push the turf, because there's a lot

Yes, so the company that is installing this is a local company. I'm sorry, I failed to mention. You probably noticed the fencing company is also a Fairview company. I've used him before. He's fantastic. He lives up here on 220, but he does fencing all over. And the company that would install the turf is in Parma, so I consider them local. They just did Rush High School's football field. And they're really excited about having this opportunity in Fairview. I mean, so is Fence Connection, the fencing company. And they're experts at it. So my understanding is it's rigid border, like a pressure-treated border, and then limestone, and then for drainage, and then padding, and then the turf on top. And then they will marry. One of the questions I had for them is, because you don't want to disrupt anything. So the existing fence is going to still be there. So marrying the new bump-out bullpen with the existing, I don't know, the grass or the levels, they're going to work hard to make it almost seamless. I mean, it's not going to be perfect because there's existing and then there's new, but they're going to work hard. There might be a little step in once you get in, but other than that, they said they're going to make it look great.

Could this be used for softball as well?

Yes. Yeah, that's a great idea. The mounds will be set. So you could do a couple of different things. There's a 55 age mound. So if the boys wanted to go warm up, they just have to move five feet in and they can throw. Now it gets tricky because I wouldn't have my team warm up at 55 feet on a raised surface if they throw from a flat surface. That's where this gets, ideally it's for the folks that are going to be playing on that field and throwing from a raised pitching position. But anyone can use it and then the softball distance would be in front of the entire mound So you could it's all flat and they could just literally just warm up right there So great question and then you just walk over from field three, which is where they play softball.

Okay Steve would you be able to have legislation for us next week that we could pass on first read for this I

I'm going to need to get a little bit more detail as to you're proposing to present a gift to the city in the form of an installation of two pitching cages. Is that right?

So there's two raised mound lanes in one enclosed.

And you have a budget put together. You've got specifications for it. You've got identified contractors and a value.

He had sent all of that, Steve, and we had looked at orders. So that's literally just the legislation, which I think Kerry already wrote up. All that detail is in the presentation. And if you haven't seen it, I can show it to you. But Kerry's written up the information. I think he sent it on to Kathleen as well. So all you have to do is just put it forward to counsel.

So let me look at it over. And if I can get it to you next week, I'll do that.

excellent council do you have any questions because it'll go up on first grade passage pat uh it's more of a question of a practical nature um if i'm interpreting your drawing properly that is one of the main areas running north south from the parking the parking lot for target heading south towards the concession area that area is used heavily during Summerfest what would the potential impact be for any tent setups along that area knowing that this is going to be what do you say 20 feet wide

20 feet by 7.

Basically, what was the setback from the main walkway to where this is being proposed?

There's a lot of room there. And so, great question. I actually thought it might come up. I don't know exactly where the tents go. Do they go closer to the walkway? Yeah, they are closer to the walkway. This is not going to be anywhere near that. So if you look at, there's some overhead shots there you could maybe just visually see in the slide deck where these would go. There's also a light pole that would be near the one corner of the bump out. And in some ways, I think if you just visually draw a line from that light pole along, And then there's also a driveway where the existing maintenance vehicles get into the gate to service the field, to cut the grass and whatnot. This would be right next to that. So nothing to the south. It wouldn't affect anything to the south because there's already a driveway there about as wide as this carpet. And again, my thought was that the setups were always closest to that walkway. I mean, there's probably 60 feet, 50 to 60 feet between the walkway. So I'm facing target. I see the target sign, the backup target. The walkways here, the fence for the field is perpendicular to the walkway. It's 50 to 60 feet to the actual field fence, and this would just be 20 feet out. So there's still a ton of room. I don't think it impacts it at all. I mean, I'm not going to say it's not going to create some, someone's going to have to adjust, but.

I can speak a little bit to that, seeing as I did the vendors for three years. Yeah, all the tents are up against, basically up against the walkway. And honestly, there's plenty of room to move stuff around. Really is. Put stuff on the other side of the walkway. It's really not that difficult. So I think this would just be fine.

And then one other question I had was about accessibility for safety vehicles, if necessary, police, fire, EMS.

You would have access from the field. It's only a six-foot fence. We could put access from the outside, too. I haven't completely... Figure that out for the softball people to get in. But keep in mind, there's that maintenance gate right there. I mean, if anything needs to get in, that's how you would go.

Troy?

Thanks, Council President. So thank you so much for coming out tonight and I sincerely appreciate you stepping forward to offer and contribute something so considerably useful for our community and the students who are playing baseball. For Summerfest, the tents do sit about six feet off of the walkway so that we have room for the congestion to get through and for the golf carts. So they're not right on that walkway, which is helpful when we have Summerfest. So take that in consideration, too. They aren't right up against the cement walkway. They're about six feet back, considering I have a tent there every year. It's not right on that walkway. When you start measuring that, take that in consideration that they've got to be able to set up those tents. And typically the tents are a 10 by 10 tent for Summerfest. Sometimes they're a 12 by 12. But for most tents, they're a 10 by 10. So you need probably a good 16 feet off of that walkway for Summerfest. And then my question is about the contractor. As you know, we are dealing with contractors in the Gemini Center, and sometimes contractors, we do have challenges. Have you looked into whatever warranties or guarantees that they're going to provide to provide full completion of this project within a timely manner so that this bullpen can be used in the spring?

yep i have um i have also asked them they what they will do is they'll transfer the warranty of the actual fence turf and other materials to the city so there's like the turf has like a 15-year warranty on it for example that would just that would be transferred to you the city The fence, same thing. As far as the mounds go, I don't remember what the warranties were, but I would ask for this. I've already communicated that to them, and they've expressed that it would not be an issue.

Okay. Perfect. All right, that's all I had. Thank you so much. Bill?

Yes. Mr. Clark, I commend you on your privately funded improvement for Fairview Park Baseball. I commend you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Good.

i'd like to join in on that thank you very much mr clark this is excellent i love baseball this is a great proposal i wish i had a bullpen growing up yeah thank you very much yeah you're welcome yep kim yes i would also like to say i really appreciate the generosity of your donation and the time that you've put in to setting the whole project up thank you very generous thank you

So thank you very much for coming in tonight for this presentation. So going forward, we'll have legislation for next week that we can pass on first reading. Anyone has any other questions? Okay. Since this is not in a committee right now, we do not have to do a motion or vote on doing that, so we'll just vote on it next week then. Awesome. So thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you all. Thanks, Andy.

All right, now we'll move to local government and community services. Councilman Raley.

All right. We will call this order at 722. All the members of the committee are present except for our chairwoman. You get the B team today. There are four items of legislation on the agenda. We'll start with ordinance 2646, amending section 505.14, hunting prohibited. Is Henry going to take this over? Or the mayor? Looks like Henry.

Can't say my presentations are gonna be as good as the last one, but I will do my best. So this is the fourth meeting we now have had on the same topic. I do apologize for the fourth time having to come talk to you. This is the final piece of the puzzle. This allows the USDA to operate successfully within the city of Fairview Park. This is a complete mirror of the city of Bay Village's ordinance. and the USDA also controls the management program within that city. I tailored it to the city of Fairview Park. I made it as enclosed as if I can as any of the potential options or problems or issues that may arise. And then I tried to also include in the memo for this legislation the timeline that we've all been working on when we had the first meeting to now. If anybody has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

Any questions from the committee?

Yes, Councilman Rainey. Henry, can you please review the timeline for us? Again, I have it vaguely in my memory.

The timeline going forward or the timeline for the last year and a half?

Moving forward.

OK, cool. I have that one right here. OK. So at the end of October, early November, they are going to come in and start baiting. As of last week, within the next two weeks, they're going to come in and pick out some spots with me. We're going to go on a field trip around the city. And then once they start their baiting, usually about a week or two after that, they will start the calling program. And that can run anywhere from early to mid-November all the way through March. Just so everyone's aware, usually Cleveland Metro Parks runs their calling program from January to March. So we're going to be in conjunction with that, and the USDA has already been in contact with the Metro Parks to work with them. I'll show where you'll see at the end of it, and then November 2nd, 3rd week, we'll kick it off all the way through March or until they reach their tagged amount.

All right. Thank you very much, Henry.

Any further questions from the committee? And I'd entertain a motion. I'd move to place this on second and subsequent third read.

So moved.

Second. And maybe we have a roll call. Oh, did I do the roll call myself? Sorry. Mr. Lang. Yes. Mr. Minnick. Yes. Ms. Greenfield. Yes. Mrs. King.

Yes.

Mrs. Mann.

Yes.

I'll vote yes as well. All right. Moving on to the next ordinance on our agenda. We have ordinance 26-47, amending section 911.15, sort of rates and collection. I believe we have Director Paye here. You are recognized.

Thank you. There are three ordinances before council. The first one is to increase sewer rates for 27 and 28. And in using the model that was provided by Reftelis in 2024 that helped us with determining the sewer rates needed for 25 and 26, this is continuing on. So we have that model, and that's what we're using to plug in our operating costs, our costs projected for wastewater treatment. SO WASTE WATER TREATMENT IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST COSTS, WHAT WE PAY TO ROCKY RIVER AND TO NORTH HOMESTEAD FOR THE TREATMENT COSTS. AND THEN THE OTHER IS JUST OUR INVESTMENTS THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN MAKING IN THE SEWER SYSTEM OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WHICH STARTED A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND, BUT HAS JUST ACCELERATED. PRIOR TO 2025, THE CITY HAD NOT PASSED ANY SEWER RATE INCREASES, AND WE HAD SOME OF THE LOWEST SEWER RATES ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS NICE, BUT THAT DIDN'T enable us to make any investments and we were barely going to be keeping up with what we needed to pay rocky river and north homestead for treatment since that time we have done projects and needed to have matching funds for the woodstock program or PROJECT, THE STANFORD PROJECT, OUR SHARE OF THE EQUALIZATION TANK, MUCH, MUCH NEEDED PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE SEWER LINING PROGRAM, WHICH KICKED OFF THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE DOING, AND THEN ALSO JUST THE MAINTENANCE. SO WORKING WITH CAYAHAGA COUNTY, WORKING WITH CNK TO CAMERA, TO CLEAN, TO DO PATCH WORK AND EMERGENCY REPAIRS. SO THAT ALL HAS A COST. AND THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, MEANING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE USER FEES IN ORDER TO PAY. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BUSINESS MODEL IN TERMS OF HOW THE FINANCING GOES. SO WE'VE BEEN ISSUING SIGNIFICANT DEBT TO PAY FOR OUR PORTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES UNTIL WE GET TO ABOUT A $10 MILLION THRESHOLD OF BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES AND THEN WE WILL ISSUE BONDS. SO MY ESTIMATION IS PROBABLY THAT WILL BE IN 29 OR 2030 THAT WE WILL BE DOING THAT. WHAT WAS SHARED WITH COUNCIL, WITH COUNCILMAN RALEY ASKED SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, SO HOPEFULLY IT PROVIDED INFORMATION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHY WE NEED THE RATE INCREASE. AND IT BASICALLY IS TREATMENT AND OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM AND OUR BEGINNINGS OF DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AND JUST TO CONTINUE TO MAKE UP FOR YEARS AND YEARS OF LOST TIME. It's never, I don't take any pride in increasing rates as a rate payer myself for my home. So I want to make sure that it is very well thought out that we did go through the model and spent that time. and just have those funds available. But in order to continue doing what we're doing, we're asking for a 10% increase for 2027 and an 11% increase in 2028. PRETTY MUCH PUTS US MID-PACK FOR NORTHEAST OHIO IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR RATES. THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DO HAVE LESS BUT TIME WILL TELL WHEN THEY START NEEDING TO INCREASE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE ARE DOING. That's the actual rates. And then there are two other ordinances to help kind of temper the rate increases. The first is the summer sprinkling program, which is ordinance 2648, and creating its own section within the code. The summer sprinkling, because we water rate water or excuse me your sewer usage is you pay for it based on your water usage. You don't have separate meters for your sewer. You only have water meter. So that's kind of the thought is the water that you're using is going to be sanitary and be the same amount. So that's that philosophy. However, in the summer, if you are increasing your water usage through, watering your lawn, that's not hopefully going into your sanitary sewer. It's going into the ground or going into storm sewer. So this is very common in many, many communities. So how it is calculated is that pretty much every residential rate payer in fairview park will pay an average of their sewer rate costs in the summer so may through september is an averaged usage for the rest of the the year so that is how the summer sprinkling program so that will impact revenues because currently we do not have that so folks that are watering their lawns is paying are paying that in their increase in their sewer costs they're not seeing it averaged out for non-watering of their lawns in the summertime so what that is how much that's going to increase the projected revenue cannot say we need to see how 2028 or 2027 goes to see if it's a success. But when we did increase rates in 25 and 26, this was one of the questions that I got from folks who were just like, well, is there any relief for watering our lawns? Not at this time, but this was something that will definitely go before council. So now it is before council. The next ordinance is another assistance to rate payers. Ordinance 2649 is the city of Fairview Park establishing a homestead program for elderly and permanently and totally disabled persons. So Cleveland Water, who provides water to the city of Fairview Park, has a homestead program. You can go on the website, apply for that if you're eligible, and set up the water homestead program. What Fairview Park is doing is anyone who applies for the water homestead program in Fairview Park will also qualify through Cleveland Water will also qualify for this city's homestead program, which is a 36% reduction of rates if you qualify. So those are two ways to hopefully help temper the cost increase that we have seen over the past two years and the two years going forward. And I am happy to answer any more questions. Thank you.

any members of the committee have any questions yeah I will say that when we lived in Lakewood we did have the the summer sprinkling program and it was much appreciated so I do appreciate that this is something that you've researched and have brought here to Fairview Park so thank you for that thank you mr. man

Director Paye the I noticed that obviously the catch-up on the sewer rates back in 2025 60% or 2024 60% was you know quite a sticker shock thing but as you said in your memo it was it was like 12 years since we had had a rate increase But when I was looking up the Bureau of Labor Statistics index increases year over year for water and sewerage maintenance, it seemed to indicate that there was about an average of 4%. uh increase nationwide for those rates so so even this the next year when we bumped up 20 percent um and now this time 10 and 11 um quite a bit higher now i understand that the midwest has aging infrastructure we personally have the delayed maintenance that we're dealing with for decades But can we expect that after 2028 we might be able to fall back in line with the year-over-year increases of about 4%, maybe 5% now that we've got our rates up there?

mean it's highly related to the infrastructure that we intend to build so uh depending on what we need to replace how many streets we need to replace how many sewers that we need to replace on these streets it's all dependent on that it's not really a national average it's it's truly um yeah i'm sorry i'm trying to thank you uh specific to fairview uh just for the fact that we have a many streets with a hundred year old sewers we we can't make any promises on you know keeping an average rate so we have to continue to look at our intended construction and base our needs off of that okay um it's but it sounds like then

you're trying to get a lot of the work from the last few decades done up front then, like as soon as possible, instead of taking it a little bit more over the longer term.

Well, yeah, obviously, you know, we've had human excrement in people's basements for multiple rain events over the past 2023. We saw two rain events where people are basically getting raw sewage pumped into their basement, which costs thousands of dollars to the residents here to clean up. So we can't really wait. unless you just want to roll the dice and hope that we don't get another rainstorm that destroys something. We need to fix now rather than wait. I mean, there's no other choice, honestly, in my mind. It's unconscionable to continue to allow our basements to flood. So, yeah, we've got to start working on stuff now rather than saying, oh, yeah, we'll work on it 10 years from now because we know that 10 years from now somebody will forget just like they did before or we'll have a new service director and they won't be as good as Hitch or Kennedy. Got it. Yeah, Kennedy. Kennedy was on the ball with the sewers. But after that, not really. So we need to get ahead of the curve. Right now, we're still behind. But yeah, we intend to go and fix the problems that we have now, not just defer it again.

All right. Yeah. No, I don't think anybody's in favor of deferring. I'm just, you know, these are big increases that we've been having. It's a bit of a shock to the residents is all.

We're still under average. So I think we're good.

Yeah. And if I may. When we did work with Reptile List to do the rate model, they said if we had done incremental rates to keep up, it would have been at the 3% to 4% a year. So we are . hopefully going to be leveling out but as the mayor said we can't make any promises based on the needs as we continue to camera and jet and you know see what is underground and we're making progress but there's still a lot of progress to be made okay thank you any further questions from the committee any need for this to remain in committee are we good for second and third

And I'd make a motion to place ordinance 26-47 on second and subsequent third. So moved.

Second.

Mr. Lange? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. Ms. Greenfield? Yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mrs. Mann? Yes. I'll vote yes as well. And that's due now for ordinance 26-48. I'd entertain a motion to place on second and subsequent third.

So moved.

Is there a second? Second. Mr. Lange? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. Ms. Greenfield? Yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mrs. Mann?

Yes.

And I'll vote yes on that as well. And finally, ordinance 26-49, I'd entertain a motion to place on second and subsequent third.

So moved.

Second. Second. All right. Now, Mr. Lang? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. Ms. Greenfield? Yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mrs. Mann? Yes. I'll vote yes as well. And with that, we will conclude at 7.40. Excellent. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Next up, Finance, Councilwoman Greenfield.

Thank you so much, Council President. I'd like to bring up Ordinance 2650, authorizing the purchase of a Ford E-Series cutaway and equipment for the service department. Director Brian Hitch, did you have anything you'd like to add?

Yes, good evening. The investment in this vehicle is primarily for trying to enhance our house call visits, and also for any type of, we're gonna start doing some more of the in-house excavation work that we can handle in-house, and we need this to build our team, carry some more equipment, the price does include some equipment that we need to buy, um to perform these functions so we don't have to send them out the county just gave us notice about two weeks ago that their rates have doubled for construction work so that price is going up um i think with the average price of that we see with the contractors working we got to start doing some more of this in-house and training our service department up and also starting to invest in some some more equipment to do so um This truck will be used rather than line and outside contractors is our big thing, but we're going to also be using this vehicle for house calls and for construction sites, and we have to do some construction work. The van that we bought two years ago when I was here, primarily that van has now been taken over as the pump station truck. So what we're finding is during the major rain events, we have to be out at the pump stations more than we have to be out at people's houses right now to keep an eye on the pumps, make sure everything's running properly so we don't get these backups. So it would be nice to have the second truck to allow for serviceability in case we do need it and also it will be used daily for any type of construction work that we're doing. Some of the equipment that we're talking about purchasing with it would be like the lateral push camera. This will allow our service staff to handle diagnosis with small repairs immediately instead of like trying to find someone to do this for us or find exactly what we need to dig. The digging without knowing problem is expensive. The camera does identify precise locations and the nature of the defect before we can excavate, so this will help us. Also, there's some trenching material involved, which... It's part of the safety and the OSHA compliance. Trench collapse can occur in seconds. It can be fatal. So it's not just a vehicle purchase. It's actually an investment in safety, efficiency, and preventative maintenance also.

All right. Thank you, Director Hitch. Are there any questions or comments from council regarding Ordinance 2650?

Yes, Councilwoman Mann. When you say the van is being used at the pump stations during rain events, are you talking about the Q's camera truck?

No. No, it's a service van. The Q's camera truck will not go out in a rain event. You'll see nothing but water.

Okay.

It's full of water.

OK. But we still have the Cuse camera truck also, right? Oh, yeah.

It's being used on Lorain Road every day right now. OK. If you've been on Lorain Road last several weeks, it's out there just about every day that we have enough staff to do it. If we don't have, like, the trees set us back a bit a few weeks ago from the storm and a few other things set us back. But that truck's out there almost every day trying to accomplish the things on Lorain Road.

OK. Great. Thank you. Councilman Link?

I have a concern more than a question and that is space constraint for where we're putting all of these vehicles I know that they're all necessary but at the same time we're spending tens of thousands of dollars at a time to store vehicles outside and exposed to the elements which enhances and you know increases the the rate of degradation of the the vehicle so I absolutely see the need. My ongoing concerns are similar to some of the concerns that we've had before about where we're storing those. is there space under cover anywhere or temporary cover that can be provided to help minimize some of that i know it's kind of off topic for the purchase itself but it does kind of go along with the money that we are being asked to spend um that is a very large topic which we could spend hours on right now if you'd like but i think the big problem that we're trying to

to fix right now in the back of the service department is i've been quotes on the roofs i mean quotes on the salt dome see if we can repair it instead of rebuilding it no one's gotten back to me on the salt dome three contractors came out and looked at it all three of them said they'd get back to us i think it's just too much of a disaster to even try to rebuild it The service garage is leaking in three spots now. The garage behind it's also leaking. We had a tree fall on it. So what space we have, we're trying to listen. I mean, let's not kid each other. Do we need a new service garage? Do we need a new building? Do we need everything undercover? I'd love that. I'd absolutely love that. If someone could help us do that, I'm all ears. Did we stop working on this stuff? No, we haven't. Are we still trying to get something accomplished and think of something we can present? Yeah. But with the restraints that we had last time, it's not an easy puzzle.

So I don't know how else to answer that question. I appreciate that, and I understand the frustration. But thank you.

All right. Any other comments or questions from council regarding Ordinance 2650? All right, like I put ordinance 2650, I'd like to make a motion to put it on second and final read. Second?

Second.

Second and third read. Mr. Lang?

Yes.

Mr. Monick?

Yes.

I'll vote yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mr. Raley?

Yes.

Ms. Mann? Yes. All right. Ordinance 2650 passes 6 to 0. Ordinance 2651, authorizing the purchase of a Ford F350 truck for the Recreation Department. Mr. Kemp, thank you for being here tonight.

Good evening, everyone. Thanks for having me here tonight. Here to really answer any questions that you might have about this, I think the memo was pretty self-explanatory as to what we do need a truck for, but just kind of a quick rundown. We're in need of additional vehicles and equipment, especially as our workload is increasing and responsibilities are increasing in the parks. We're looking at this truck for a variety of reasons. Snow plowing, parking lots of the Gemini Center, Bain Cabin, Bolkin Park, Nelson Ross Park, and Morton Park. Trailer hauling of mowers, utility vehicles, field groomers, and equipment between parks. Transporting sports equipment, park supplies, hauling trash and general grounds maintenance at the Gemini Center and our parks. And then some future use of adding a water tank for cleaning and landscaping. So quite a bit for our needs to responsibly maintain our parks for our residents. Currently we have three trucks in our fleet. one of which is barely running and needs to be put out to pasture one of which is primarily intended to be used for administrative purposes but has been reallocated to be used for a lot of the things that I just said and then our other one that is doing all the heavy lifting for us right now So we are definitely in need of a vehicle as soon as possible and plan to budget for several more vehicles as indicated in the memo for 2027 in order to get us to an operational level, that base level for maintaining our parks.

Any questions from council for Director Kent? No. Yes. Gosh, I'm a man.

Yes. Director Kemp, are you parking your vehicles down in that far corner of the Gemini parking lot?

Our vehicles, since the construction site has been removed, have been parked back in the high school lot in the corner that the city owns back there. Okay. Thank you. Yep.

All right. Any other questions from council? All right. Director Kemp, thanks so much for being here tonight. I'd like to place ordinance 2651 up for second reading and subsequent third.

So moved.

Second. We get a second? All right. Councilman Lange?

Yes.

Mr. Minnick?

Yes.

I'll vote yes. Bridget King? Yes. Mr. Raley?

Yes.

Ms. Mann? Yes. All right. Ordinance 2651 passes 6-0, and it is placed on second and subsequent third read. Ordinance 2652, authorizing the contract with Software Solutions for Financial Software. And Ordinance 2653, authorizing the sale of obsolete sales vehicles, city vehicles, and equipment. Jen?

Thank you. Ordinance 2652 is to enter into a contract with Software Solutions. They are the company that the city has been engaged with for many years for its financial system. The product that we're using, EGov, is on its last fumes. They are not able to keep up with a lot of the security issues. There also has been a significant change in the OPERS software and how the city needs to interface with reporting of OPERS. And with that update that's supposed to go live in October, that means everything has to be done manually, which is a big labor constraint. So it is well past time to Keep going with what we've been doing and so we're upgrading to VIP which is used by many many communities across, Ohio So we are going to update our payroll system And have the ability to do online payroll to let people get their w-2s and their pay stubs online and be able to access it As well as timekeeping and also have a updated accounts payable and budgeting and instead of having such a paper-heavy system for doing purchase racks and purchase or purchase orders as well this would be also be able to do that electronically so it's just getting us up to 20 26 20 27 times with financial software so It's going to be phased. It's going to take a considerable amount of time, about a year's time to do this. So if and when this is passed by council, there'll be lots of behind the scene work being done by Software Solutions. Then in the beginning of 2027, we will be running parallel. So the finance system will be running two systems. So just to get trained and to understand it. And once we are comfortable, then we can go live hopefully towards the end of 2027. And it will probably be different things will be phased in as we train our staff and train employees within the city. Happy to answer any other questions. Thank you.

Any questions from City Council regarding our transition to a new software company?

No questions?

All right. So I'd like to place Ordinance 2652, authorizing the contract with Software Solutions Financial Software, up for second and subsequent third reading.

So moved. Second.

Second. Thank you. Mr. Lang?

Yes.

Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Ms. King?

Yes.

Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann? Yes. All right. The motion passes 6-0. Authorizing the sale of obsolete city vehicles and equipment. Jen, did you want to touch on that at all?

Yes. Thank you. We have... Two vehicles that we need council authority to either auction or scrap. The International Pumper, which you probably all see. I'm sitting in the back. It's a 1991. not been used in quite some time. And then a larger Ford vehicle, a 1995 truck, also is well beyond its useful life. So we would like to put these on auction. Hopefully we can be able to sell them. If not, we will scrap what we cannot sell. Thank you.

All right, is there any questions from council regarding the ordinance 2653 authorizing the sale of obsolete vehicles? No discussion from council? Nope. All right, very good. We're going to place ordinance 2653 for second reading and subsequent third.

So moved.

Second.

Mr. Lang? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Mrs. King?

Yes.

Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann?

Yes.

All right. The motion passes 6-0. Ordinance 2655, agreement with county for Westwood Avenue resurfacing project. 2654? 2655. 2654, we passed on emergency passage last week. OK. So Megan, would you like to touch base on all three at the same time?

Yes. So I'm going to talk about Ordinance 2655 and Ordinance 2656 and then Resolution 2617, since they're all for the same project. So the first one is the agreement with the county. We got awarded the $250,000 for the Westwood resurfacing project, and it's just ordinance to enter into agreement so the mayor can sign that it's just similar to what we've done in the past with those and then ordinance 2656 is to enter into agreement with Manik and Smith for design of the project and we it's around $72,000 and we do have an application in at the county for CDBG to help cover that expense for that project we just haven't been heard if it's been awarded or not but hopefully it will be and then resolution 2617 is again standard practice for the OPWC grant application so it was due Friday no Thursday I'm sorry Thursday but we have until December to give the ordinance or the resolution to the committee so again it's just authorizing us to enter you know to agree for the application and show the support of the count the city and the City Council

All right. Thank you, Megan. Any questions for Megan regarding Ordinance 2655, 2656, or Resolution 2617? Any questions? Megan, I do have a question regarding Ordinance 2656 with Manikin-Smith. Can you speak more to the grant or monies from the county?

Yeah, so we applied for the CEBG grant, which is the Community Development Block Grant. And that was the 27 application. So we just haven't submitted it. I think that was in August, no, July, somewhere in there, where we did a presentation, I think, right before you guys went on recess. And we just haven't heard if it's been awarded or not.

OK. And do you have a timeline for that?

Hopefully by the end of the year.

OK. All right. Fantastic. Any other questions? OK. All right. Thank you so much for being here tonight, Megan. We appreciate you. All right. I'd like to place ordinance 2655 for second reading and subsequent third.

So moved.

Second.

Mr. Lang?

Yes.

Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann?

Yes.

All right. The motion passes 6-0. Ordinance 2656, authorizing the contract with City Engineer for the Westwood Avenue resurfacing project. I'd like to place it on second and subsequent third read.

So moved.

Can I get a second?

Second.

Thank you. Mr. Lang? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann?

Yes.

All right. The motion passes 6-0. I'd like to place Resolution 2617, authorizing the application for OPWC grant for Westwood resurfacing. I'd like to place it on second and subsequent third read.

So moved.

Second. Thank you very much. Mr. Lang? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Mrs. Greenfield? Mrs. King?

Yes.

Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann? Yes. All right. The motion passes 6-0. Next up, we have Resolution 2616, accepting the donation for Richard Segrist.

Mm-hmm.

Notitorium. And we are requesting to put this on second reading with emergency passage. Yes. Do we have any other comments from Mr. Kempf regarding the notitorium?

The only comments I have is the 25th is the dedication for the Richard Segrist Natatorium. I would love to see you all there. This is just recognizing the donation that the Friends of Fairview Swimming are putting towards the permanent signage that will be on display for in both inside the competition pool for the naming and dedication that you all passed and the plaque that will be in the hallway recognizing his contributions to swimming and safety in the city of Fairview Park.

All right, thank you for that explanation. Mr. Kemp, is there any other questions from council regarding this donation, accepting this donation? No? Any comments? All right, Director Kemp, thanks so much for being here tonight. We appreciate it. I'd like to place Resolution 2616 up for second and subsequent third reading. No, I'm sorry, second reading with emergency passage.

So moved.

Second.

Mr. Lang? Yes. Mr. Minnick? Yes. I'll vote yes. Mrs. King? Yes. Mr. Raley? Yes. Mrs. Mann? Yes. All right. The motion to place Resolution 2616 up for second reading with emergency passage passed 6-0. All right. That concludes the Finance Department's meeting, and we are ending at 8-0-2.

Excellent. Thank you. It is now time for boards and commission reports. Do you have anything, Pat?

Nothing this evening.

Bill?

Thank you, Council President. The Board of Control met this morning, September 14th, 2026, at 10 a.m. in the Fairview Park Senior Center, 20769 Lorain Road. Director Hitch was not present. Also present were Megan Otter, Assistant Development Director, Henry Chasky, Executive Assistant to the Mayor, Police Chief Shepard, Recreation Director Kemp, and resident Mr. Jeffrey Zimplek. Twelve items were discussed. Item 1. Development Department is requesting $50,402 for the pavement repairs to the south side of West 220th Street and Cromwell, including curbs, catch basin, manhole adjustment. Megan spoke on this, stating the sewer repairs. Motion to pay $50,402 to AJ Cement from the Capital Projects Fund, 811, was approved 4-0. Item 2, Police Department is requesting $10,750 for evidence lockers. Chief Shepard stated, evidence lockers are original. Motion to pay $10,000. $750 to Steel Solutions from the Special Hold Fund 611 was approved for zero. Finance Department is requesting $7,000, adding $500 for the City Copier Maintenance to open purchase order of $6,500. Motion to pay $7,000 to Dex Imaging from the General Fund 100 was approved for zero. service department is requesting nine thousand eight hundred thirty one dollars and sixty seven cents for trench shoring jacks for sewer excavation the city does not have the surge jacks the shoring jacks motion to pay nine thousand eight hundred thirty one dollars to Cundrell Industries from the Sanitary Surf Fund 510 was approved 4-0. Service Department is requesting $37,000, adding $12,000 for fabricating and installing leaf boxes on service trucks to open purchase order of $25,000. Henry Chesky stated the new fabricating will be for the new trucks. Motion to pay $37,000 to E&K Products from the General Fund 100 was approved for zero. Item six, service department is requesting $74,000, adding $28,000 for emergency tree removal, total purchase order of $46,000. item eight service department requesting thirty thousand dollars adding fifteen thousand for emergency municipal tree removal services to open purchase order of fifteen thousand both of these items were discussed in tandem as both involve removing city trees motion to pay seventy four thousand dollars to parks west tree west from the general fund 100 was approved four zero MOTION TO PAY 30,000 TO TOM COATREE FROM THE GENERAL FUND, 100 WAS APPROVED, 4-0. ITEM 7, SERVICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTING $37,000, ADDING 16,000 FOR POLICE AND SERVICE TIRES, TOTAL PURCHASE ORDER OF 21,000. UPON CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR HITCH, THIS ITEM WILL BE REMOVED AND TABLED UNTIL A FUTURE DATE. MOTION TO REMOVE AND TABLE WAS APPROVED, 4-0. Item 9, service department is requesting $43,000 for a new gas line installation, open purchase order of $37,500. Law Director Debra made an inquiry and Director Hitch replied the gas line is from the meter around the outside of Bain cabin. Motion to pay $43,500 to Killian Plumbing from the Bain Park Restoration Fund, 7-11 was approved 4-0. Item 10, Recreation Department is requesting $8,063.50, adding $3,053.50 for Winterfest restroom trailers and additional park needs to open purchase order of $5,000. Director Kemp stated this pertains to the annual Winterfest. motion to pay eight thousand sixty three dollars and fifty cents to united rentals from the recreational fund 230 was approved four zero item eleven recreation department requesting twenty seven thousand dollars adding seven thousand dollars for increased sports and service uniforms Total purchase order of $20,000. Recreation Director Kemp stated for additional uniforms. Motion to pay $27,000 to cleave the print wear from the recreation fund 230 was approved 4-0. Item 12, Recreation Department is requesting $27,485, adding $500 for a fall program additional signage to open purchase order of $26,985. Director Kemp stated this is for the additional signage. Motion to pay $27,000. 485 to sign a rama from north olmstead from a general fund 100 the recreation fund 230 was approved by zero four zero this completes my report thank you

Troy, anything for boards and commission reports?

Nothing tonight. Thank you.

Rick?

Nothing for me.

Kim?

Thank you, Council President. The Shaped Tree Advisory Committee met September 10th. Committee members in attendance were Matt Ruby, Amy Holzhaus, Dawn Wright, and Melissa Sturgis. Dale Van Zante, Reed Morse, and the city arborist or their designee were absent. Dale is expected to be absent until December due to work demands. Kim Mann, Doug McMillan, and Ethan Whitaker attended as guests. The committee discussed working with Future Forests to help them apply for a small grant to purchase tree supplies. Skip funding for phase two of the Coe Creek Erosion Project was also mentioned to say that there is an expectation more trees will be planted in the woods. Melissa Sturgis noted that she hoped to keep an area in the northern end of the woods reserved for native species as part of her arboretum planning. The group discussed project ideas for use of their own budget or any small grants available, settling on providing trees for planting on private property in neighborhoods with less than 30% canopy. Lack of canopy south of Bolkin was discussed. The committee noted that there were few trees on Stanford and Woodstock prior to the sewer and repaving projects. and that only replacement trees were planted. Adopt-a-tree was considered for residents who want a tree, but members reported that some residents have tried to use the program and received no response. A member will reach out to the city to see if it's still supporting the program. SNAC was asked to recommend species for planting along West 210 to replace trees that were excessively pruned by the Illuminating Company. The group agreed that nothing should be planted under wires that don't provide at least 20 feet clearance. Otherwise, the existing master tree plan already indicates that Zelkova should be planted where no wires exist and Tartarian maple under wires with sufficient clearance. Melissa Sturgis has ordered $700 worth of plant labels for new specimens being added to the Bain Park Arboretum inventory. Species under consideration for replanting the space behind the cabin include beech, sycamore, swamp white oak, and some type of evergreen to screen views of the culvert. Low quality fill dirt and salt runoff from the road above will determine the choices. Management of trees on public property was discussed. An update to the master tree plan is still needed. Committee members want to know if the street tree data has been uploaded to the service department's job tracking system or if the inventory is being used in some way to manage the urban forest. To support planting trees on private property, Melissa Sturgis drafted a guide for residents. This was reviewed by the mayor and the development and service departments. Their recommendations included adding information to the backside, making gator bag instructions more prominent, and clarifying that these care instructions are for the resident to perform, not the city. The members considered ways to fill the gap in communications that result in failure of newly planted street trees. This concludes my report. Thank you.

Thank you. Roundtable. Anything, Pat?

Nothing this evening.

Bill?

Nothing. Thank you.

Troy? Nothing tonight. Thank you.

Rick? Nope. Kim?

I have a few questions. It kind of came out of the stack meeting. Is there a phase two planned for the Coe Creek restoration? I thought that project was done.

Megan, you can speak on it, but we did receive a grant from the state to do further work in Coal Creek.

Yes, so the work that was done this past spring, we're calling that phase one, and then we got state capital funding from ODNR, so it's being funneled through them for phase two. We're in the process of just finalizing that with ODNR, and then Kim will start, or Manikin-Smith will start designing that.

And is that more creek bank restoration? Yep. And will there be more plantings of trees? Yes. Will they be protected this time so they don't get eaten? My understanding that the ones that were planted in the first phase, that almost all of those are gone.

No, I think that's incorrect.

We visit ourselves and as a matter of fact, we got on the contractor to put bigger two-inch round trees in so they got eaten. Now, you're talking about some of the yearlings that were planted. They planted over 300 of those and they planned on over two-thirds of them being destroyed or eaten or not making it. That could be what someone reported to you, but the the the livelihood of those were just planted because of the expectancy of some of those to be terminated those are the little whips right correct okay i can see that but the bigger trees there's no way those two inch trunks were even down okay um and then mayor you're planning on being at the um as the like the city arborist designee at the uh stack meetings going forward is that right

I wouldn't say planning on it. I intend to go and sit in with the meetings if I can. I was not able to last time, but I wanted to provide feedback from Matt in regards to that laminated handout.

OK. And then the meeting that we're having on the 21st for the equalization tanks, are we planning to live stream that?

545.

Not council, I mean just the town hall. The one at 545? Yes. Is that going to be live streamed to make it more accessible?

No, the whole intent for that is to have people come in and be more engaged in the process. So there'll be some interactive components to it. We don't want, we want to get the information out there so if we can, we'll post things later if need be, but the whole purpose is to get people in here and more interactive with the whole process of the equalization tank.

Okay, so you might record it then and post it afterwards?

Well, there's nothing really to record. So what we're going to do, we haven't discussed all the details yet. We have a meeting this week to go over everything, but there'll be boards, there'll be stickers, there'll be a PowerPoint on loop, but there won't be an actual presentation. It'll be more of an... interactive one-on-one Different tables that you can go to like I said with stickers and stuff like that So the whole purpose is to have people actually physically come to be more engaged in the process.

I see.

Okay We can always have the PowerPoint on after and you know, maybe what the board say But like I said, the whole point is to get people physically in here to be a part of it okay, and

final question uh the work on the bain park cabin does it is that finished now no not at all we just had the gas line put in and then our next phase is we're still upgrading the electrical we have uh contractors that gave us bids for putting the drywall back in upstairs we're going through that right now to pick somebody and it's just it's really tough to get contractors these days on board and to get the three quotes and to find everything that we need done. We're moving along at a good pace. We did find a lot of things wrong. I mean, you know, we'll have more of a report when we're done, but it just seems like every time we open up a wall to do something, there's something else there. I mean, the gas leak wasn't... expected at all but that's a good thing we found it because we've been digging up again someday soon you know we've tackled a lot of the plumbing issues that the that the cabin has had throughout the years with blocked toilets rooted lines compromised lines putting the serviceability back in the bathrooms is a big thing now the electrical were on and we found many of violations even the for an example even the chandeliers that are hanging that were probably put together I think by the service department years ago I'm not sure who did those but they were old they were lamppost but like at Home Depot because there's some extra parts laying in the back room that they put four lampposts together on top of those wood crosses that they made and when the electrician was there he said all all four of the chandeliers that were basically made were out of code because of the connections at the top so now we're looking at replacing some of the lighting in there and then after that gets done we have to just uh tidy up upstairs and repaint the stuff that we're re-drywalling so we're still we're still a little bit away okay so it sounds like a lot of the work inside the building is still ongoing is the septic is that orphaned uh system in compliance now oh yes yes the uh it's been removed the board of health was out they they gave it the the gold star okay it was it was pretty bad that was a very deep septic it was very large largest one i've ever seen i don't know why it was so large for that one building But it was 12 feet down. So we have some issues of settling now, which we expected So we want to make sure that it's safe and we're probably we already went back once had the contract go back once and Repave it regrade it rather and we'll probably have to happen again after a winner Before we can start planting grass and getting that back in order.

Okay, and I know there were There were concerns about the foundation of the cabin. Has that been evaluated?

The foundation appears to be in good shape from what we've been looking at and we do have a couple people looking at it. I think what the foundation may need is probably some waterproofing because it seems like the basements are still taking on water through the walls though and through the footer drains now. You know, the gutters have been all replaced and everything's been replaced as far as how they drain. So that's in good shape now. But there's still some seepage coming in through the basements. So we have to look at probably some waterproofing. That could be done, you know, next year or the following year. Probably, you know, it's not that long of a project if we plan it out right. But before we continue and start, you know, planting things behind the cabin, we'd like to see what it's going to take to get that done.

Okay. Thank you. That's all I have.

Thank you. Liz, do you have anything around the table? Okay. I just would like to announce that We Do Care will be in council chambers here November 2nd at 6 p.m. before our meeting, and rec commission will meet this Wednesday at 6 p.m. at the rec center. And that being all before council, this meeting is now adjourned.