County Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, September 8, 2026

Public comment at the County Council meeting highlighted concerns about the Human Relations Committee's effectiveness and severe conditions at the Erie County Prison. The Council also approved several budget adjustments and property-related resolutions.

About this meeting

Government Body
County Council
Meeting Type
County Council
Location
Erie County, PA
Meeting Date
September 8, 2026

Transcript

137 sections

0:00 – 7:44Speaker 4

Maher, Maher. Oh. The time has come, are you ready?

7:49 – 8:19Speaker 5

I want to open the evening session on the third day of September 8th, 2026. Will you be able to get up for the faith week? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic that it represents, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Tfilah o hirhur li vkhira. Gveret Sha'ar deman.

8:19Speaker 2

Hadavar hatov biyoter shatem yacholim latet li yaldeichem milvad arachim tovim hem zichronot tovim.

8:25Speaker 5

Toda. Bdikat nochechut.

8:29Speaker 2

Mar Copeland.

8:30Speaker 2

Mar Daraksel.

8:32Speaker 2

Gveret Sha'ar deman. Nochachat. Mar Worts.

8:35Speaker 2

Mar Winarski.

8:36Speaker 2

Yoshev Rosh Sekotela.

8:38 – 8:50Speaker 5

Nochach. Shmiat Hatzibur. Cindy Treiber, I'm just going to listen today. You're just going okay. Yes, thank you. Is there anyone interested in talking?

8:50 – 11:42Speaker 2

My name is Frida Tefer and I live in the city of Erie. I want to remind people first... Oops, I didn't activate my timer. I want to remind people first that the last day to register for the elections is on October 19th. The last day to ask for a vote in the ballot is today, October 27th, but don't wait until then. If you are going to leave votes in the vote box and you want to leave a vote of someone else and know that you have a vote from Yuppei Koch, So, I am concerned about a number of things, but especially because of changes in the federal level and how the mandate for integration will be taken care of. And one of the things that is on the section is whether people must wait until they are employed in the institution. These are people with health problems, with mental illnesses and mental disabilities. Do people have to wait to be hospitalized before they can predict a serious risk of being hospitalized? And so, one of the places where the ability to raise these concerns will begin will be here at the level of the facility with the stability of human relations. And my history with human relationships is first and foremost aware that one of the previous managers was someone who was not the original choice of the board, but someone who was there by saying, I'm not sure how. I acted under him as a friend in the advisory committee, and I found that this environment is very harmful. The existence of functional and strong human relationships is really negative at this time. וקיום מערכת כוח אדם מכובדת, שמגישה הצעות ועומדת מאחוריהן זה באמת חיוני. עמם, וכשנעשית בחירה טובה, לא צריכה להיות שום סיבה לתת לאותו אדם לחמוק בגלל סוג כלשהו של עיכוב או דחייה. Amam, I just want to emphasize again how important it will be for us to have a controlled human relations committee and not to encourage the opportunity to get an administrator who is really an expert. Thank you. Thank you.

11:55 – 13:43Speaker 1

Good evening, friends of the committee. My name is Mary Jo Kempebel. I am sitting at the Washington City Council, but tonight I am here as the head of the Human Relations Committee. I have already passed four presidents. The last of which was the best of the four. All in all, okay. I am very worried about the arrangement that is taking place now. Amam, finally we're on the right track and I want it to stay that way. In other words, we really achieved a lot. Amem, in our last meeting, said that someone got fired, and she, that same person, got the job. Amam, we can't say who it was, because the manager ran away so she could appear at the next meeting. Amam, I just wanted to say that it is really important that we test how we do things, and how important it is for us to have a really good human relations committee. We have a lot of traditional people working on this, and this specific director did more than anyone I've ever seen does anything about it. Amam, I just want to know, I know this is a human power decision. And I know, because I'm in the HR department here in the office, that things can't be too complicated, I'm waiting for that. But I just want to be aware of how important it is to get a new manager, Shin. He got the job, and he really wants to be in this job. But I just want to know if there will be a new manager soon, because I think it's important to give up on that. תודה על זמנכם.

13:44Speaker 2

לראות מה מצבנו. איך אנחנו מתקדמים. לא. נוכל להמשיך.

14:06 – 22:31Speaker 5

Abdallah Washington, here in Pennsylvania. I actually serve in the advisory committee. I was appointed by one of the committee members, Andre Horton. I watched the things for a long time, and you know, we almost live in a different era than what it was. As long as this was established, when this thing was established. There are people who think that all of this is walk-progressive. כנראה שלהיות נגד אפליה זה, ווק. כנראה שלתמוך בצדק זה, ווק. יש כל כך הרבה מהווקנס, הזה שקורה, שאני בדיוק כמו כולכם. אני אוהב ללכת למועדון. לפעמים רק כדי להירגע. פשוט לזוז קצת. עכשיו, אני לא יודע אם יצא לכם להיות בשוגר רייז, או בסל בלוק, אבל לפעמים הולכים למועדון ועניינים יוצאים משליטה. We meet people. And we understand that they are not really there to hang out. And they always meet this and that. And it seems that what they really want is just to hang out. They want to steal. They want to call a police and that everything will be closed. It seems that this is their goal. It does not sound to me like entertainment. Now, in 2020, the City Council of Erie announced that the City Council of Erie has declared racism as a public health crisis. This is the work of the HRC. These are the kinds of things that we are supposed to take care of in this community. In 2021, we introduced Brenton Davis to the position of HRC Manager, who decided that he wants to close and cancel the HRC supply. And we also fought for it. In 2023, Karen Tshilkut was appointed to run the station. All of our committee members, whether they are in the management team or in the advisory committee, like me, are all appointed by the committee here. And you know, in the city committee, And we can talk about it every other week, about who's responsible. Do we have enough friends to be interested? It's always a problem, and it's not logical, because it's so critical to the function of a designated place like an urban station. One name that comes up all the time, of course, is Charlie Bale, who currently has no compensation from the station, not even in the advisory committee. But no matter what we do, they put obstacles in our way. Once I was told that when a person dies, someone else will die. It depends on us to continue the activity so that the organization can do its job. We need to unite. Right now, we don't have an organization for this meeting, but I just want you to know that there is someone here right now who is listening to me. which is the reason why the city council can't get good things. Unfortunately, there are many people who are victims of the HRC closure again and again. It's sad to say that. Thank you, thank you. Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Jared Stachewski, Mill Creek Township, in a specific way. I would like to thank the four members of the committee who voted until the possibility to hold our phones in accordance with the law of transparency. Mar Deraksel, you ran for the seat of transparency, you voted against, the media failed to get you, and we also failed to get you on social media. Can you explain why you voted against? I can't answer you now, but I'll answer you right after. Why not now? I'm not supposed to answer you. I'm supposed to give you a chance to continue. Okay, thanks, I'll give you an answer. I appreciate it. I mean, it's not that bad, right? It's not, everyone has their phones. Nothing, nothing comes out of control. Everyone is calm. So, I just want to point this out in front of Mr. Schwermann and Mr. Bales as well. ובאופן כללי, הייתי רוצה לבקש מחברי המועצה ומהמנהל המחוזי, האם תוכלו לבדוק את התנאים בחלם החוז אירי ולא לקבל את דברי הקלק כפשוטם. אני רואה את הודעות העיתונות שהם שולחים וזה לא מצייר את אותה תמונה של מה שקורה שם בפנים. זה בלגן שם בפנים. אם אתם לא יודעים איזה סוג אוכל מגישים לעשירים, מה הם תנאי הסגר שם, ואיך הם מחזיקים עשירים מהמדינה, מהפדרציה ומהמחוז יחד. אני לא חושב שזה חוקי. Then please check it out, people are suffering there right now. Then, you can please do what is in the debate now. There are 700 people there and the conditions are restrictive. Then, I would very much appreciate it and thank you again to the four members of the committee who voted in favor of the implementation of the law of transparency and thanks to them we have the phones. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Erev Tov, Shemi Daonta Kuli, Toshav Iri Kol Chayai. I'm glad you said you'd explain, because I have the same question for you. Because I remember that when we talked about this in the interview, you said it wasn't a big deal. I'm in favor of this. You're going to get this. So to hear that you're voting against this was like hiding in a blanket. And also to Michelle, also about you, because you said you're voting against because of what the sheriff said. I had a conversation with the sheriff before the vote and a conversation with the sheriff after the vote. And he told me that this is not what was said about the reason that he did not forget. He said that this is more or less your job and it is not going to be a security issue. So I would like to get an explanation from both of you. Because either you are not telling the truth or he is not telling the truth. And I would also like to get an explanation from both of you. Because we sat in these seats and saw all of you with your mobile phones. and it makes me wonder why you are allowed to hold phones, and we, as a public, no, and also, Mr. Taylorico, you said that this does not violate the law of the sun, or anything else, but it seems that this is exactly the point. But this is my problem, right? And I'm pretty sure that this could be the reason why the vote was negative, because we need to allow us to put our phones into this court. No one needs to take our phones when we pass through these doors. There are historical photos on the wall. If I want to come and take a picture of the first floor of the Irri building 3 after 2 p.m., . . . . It is said that it is forbidden during legal proceedings, and Marworts read the decision and he was very specific in what he stated. And I am aware that you all received a decision only for the board meeting, because maybe that's all you're arguing about. So I'm not sure if anyone here will be able to give us an answer as to who needs to speak in order to refute the decision that was made by Judge Trasila B-2016, Because of what has been said, our rights have been violated for 10 years or we are not allowed to hold our phones here for 10 years. And this law or whatever it was, has never been related to the entire building. That is, the court building, I meant the court building building. The court building is the home of the people. Thank you. Thank you.

23:01Speaker 3

Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak?

23:03Speaker 1

Is there anyone else who wants to speak?

23:04Speaker 3

Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak?

23:11 – 26:28Speaker 1

Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak? Is there anyone else who wants to speak But if so, it may be a mistake on my part, a mistake on my part. Okay, because I made a mistake, why does it appear here? I'm sorry, but I think that maybe it was a moment of God, so I'll take it. I'm sorry, I would like to regret what Gared is talking about about the cell. We have a real situation that is happening there and I feel that we are putting people into this cell because of very bad circumstances, the conditions of the prison and a search that may not be legal. According to my understanding, we need a reason to stop and search, or Terry Stop. And what we are doing now is simply stopping people, asking them questions, asking for information, and then we have police officers who are conducting a non-dream search in the neighborhood of young men. Two in the last three weeks, and I mean non-dream. Sometimes there are complaints about this. So if we are not supposed to stop and search to a certain extent for a reason, and then we do stop and search and we stop and search in a non-permanent way, I think we have a problem. Because then these children, these young men, are taken to the city center and then they are buried and then they are transferred to the burial facility where there are people who are buried, there are people who run their own house all day because they were buried at dawn. By the way, the one who insulted me, I forced him to sit at his house all day. The situation in the cell is really disturbing. And we are the only local cell in the country that does not have a staff member, a volunteer staff member or a volunteer program that is actively engaged in visiting the victims. Even the Benedictine sisters were not allowed to enter there for years. Then I contacted Lamed Minus 14 Kmerim, Rabbis, deaconies and different Kmerim, even those who have been appointed and have the authority to visit state shelters, and none of them was allowed to enter the shelter, but if so, Asir entered his name on the list. And if Asir maybe decides to tell his family that what's happening in the cell, and he's admitted to a confinement or isolation or doesn't matter what it's called, they don't have access to a tablet to enter a family member or a member of the list. They don't have access to a kiosk to bring food or a family member to a table. So we really know what's going on in their faces. The company Armour Health, which received more than $12.5 million with a fee of $12.5 million, we left them and then we also included their mental health services inside the cage. How are we trying to hide everything in secret? Because it really feels as if we are trying to hide everything. Thank you.

26:38 – 27:31Speaker 3

האם יש מי שהוא נוסף שרוצה לדבר? האם יש מי שהוא נוסף שרוצה לדבר? האם יש מי שהוא נוסף שרוצה לדבר? תודה דוחות של פקידי המחוז מנהל המחוז כי הם לא כאן היום A, Vaadat Haksefim. Mar Jackson. Tuda. Vaadat Kohach Adam, Mar Copeland.

27:31 – 27:42Speaker 5

Ken, Adonai Hayoshev Rosh. Vaadat Kohach Adam nifgesha gam hi byom chamishi ha-acharon ve-dana be-migvan rachav shel nusim, kolel prit hei, nusay yashan hei.

27:45Speaker 3

Tuda. Yesh duchot nosafim.

27:49Speaker 5

Adonai Hayoshev Rosh.

27:57 – 30:07Speaker 5

Leor Hasehara Shel Shavua Sheavar, Shegarmah, Atem Yodim, Lenezek Bechol Machoz Iri, Uvchol Hamachoz Hasheni, Oto Retsuah Spezifit Shel HaIr, UleOrech Kav Hamifratz, Uchreva Mehasufot HaEle. We are currently hearing rumors about close to minus 800 trees that have collapsed throughout the city, and if they flew through my neighborhood in West Bay Pront, there are still trees that lie on houses and in some cases blockade roads. The troops are doing an amazing job in trying to prevent the roads and allow movement, but there are still trees that have collapsed on properties, and especially those that affect property owners. The city and the station distributed tickets that were intended to allow people to enter and ride on the rides among themselves, and I know that most people will look at these tickets and think that they are intended only for house owners. But I also want to encourage the investors to do so. There were also many discussions about wonderful house owners, in which we still see damaged houses that are not suitable for treatment. And if you live in one of these houses, please, when you report the damage that has been done to you, report also that your landlord is not responding to your needs regarding these properties. These reports will be transferred to the city and the district, hoping that we will be able to find ways to intervene and advance the matter. In any case, all of these damages will be covered with additional compensation in order to help repair these neighborhoods and repair damages in the city and in areas that have been damaged along the highway. So I just want to make sure that everyone will do this, that everyone is aware of the existence of these discussion channels, and as long as there will be more resources available to people in need of a housing transfer or housing repair, we will also share them on social media. Thank you.

30:14Speaker 3

overim lenosim letipul min heavar. Seif alef, adayn mukpa, gveret tshilkut, bet.

30:23 – 30:40Speaker 2

Kriya shniya shel pkuda mispar shivim v'shesh minus alpayim esrim v'shesh, taktsiv keren briyut hanefesh u mugbaluyot zikhliyot lishnat alpayim esrim v'shesh, im yedkun hotzaot shel chameshmeot v'shiva asar elif sheshmeot shloshim u shnayim dolar li yetsirat seifim chadashim avur merkezei alut shel hamedina.

30:41Speaker 5

Hatsaa meusheret, shniya, yesh diyun,

30:46Speaker 6

Giveret Chilkut.

30:47Speaker 2

Mar Copeland.

30:48Speaker 2

Mar Daraksel.

30:50Speaker 2

Giveret Schwermann. Ken. Mar Wurtz.

30:53Speaker 2

Mar Wienerski.

30:56Speaker 2

Yosef Harosh Skotela.

31:01Speaker 2

Second reading of order number 77-2026, transfer of shares in 171,925 dollars to the telephone systems. Happy proposal. Second. There is a discussion.

31:16Speaker 5

Mr. Chairman.

31:17Speaker 2

Mr. Daraksel.

31:19Speaker 2

Mr. Shavarman. Yes. Mr. Wurtz.

31:22Speaker 2

Mr. Winiarski.

31:25Speaker 2

Mr. Copeland. Yes. Chairman Skotela.

31:27Speaker 6

Yes. Dallet.

31:31Speaker 2

Second reading of section number 79 minus 2020 and 6, which fixes paragraph 3, part 1 of the administrative law, the main law of the city. The proposal has been accepted. Second. There is a discussion.

31:48 – 32:15Speaker 5

Adonai Hayoshev Rosh, Ani Rotze Letakenet Mishpat Seif HaHatsaa Shel HaPiska HaRishona BeFerek Ze Kadey LeHasir Et HaNisuach Shemachrig Et Rashuyot HaMachoz. Klomar, Et HaHeara BaSograyim, Achlo Rashuyot Acherot Kadey Limchok Et HaKeta HaZe MeHaHatsaa. Shniya, Yesh Diyun, Gveret Tshugshi Al HaTikun,

32:18Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Yes.

32:39 – 33:05Speaker 2

Gveret Tshokshi Gveret Shaverman Ah, yes Ah, I'm sorry, I thought you raised your hand Yes Mar Worts Yes Mar Wynarski Yes Mar Bale Yes Mar Copeland Yes Mar Daraksel Yes Hayosev Rosh Zekotela Yes Hey Second reading of line number 80-2026, the amendment to the Human Resources Code of the City Council

33:08 – 34:05Speaker 5

Hatsa'a hitkabla. Shniya. Diyon. Adonei hayoshev rosh, ani rotzeh lehatsia letakenet hamesmach uleasher shnei tikunim nosafim. Amud 17, tachat horadot bedarga, e anachnu nosif et hameshpat haba, shiur hasachar shel oved chayav liyot lefachot haminimum shel dargat hasachar hachadasha. And on page 16, for salary training for new employees, these are correct reasons and confirmations related to the positions of the employee in addition to the minimum requirements of the job, which please identify a letter that was signed by the contractor or the manager and must be issued by the head of the company and the manager of human resources. The initial salary training of an employee who has recently been hired may be up to 6% of the minimum of the salary level in the salary table. Second, there is a discussion. Mr. Chokar on the correction.

34:06Speaker 2

Mr. Copeland?

34:08Speaker 2

Mr. Daraksel?

34:09Speaker 2

Mr. Shverman? Yes. Mr. Wurtz?

34:12Speaker 2

Mr. Wienerski?

34:13Speaker 2

Mr. Roshsekotela?

34:15Speaker 2

And on the line, as you see here, I have a suggestion from Mr. Wienerski and a second from Mr. Wurtz.

34:25Speaker 6

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

34:45 – 34:57Speaker 2

Second reading of decision number 25-2020-6, which expires to the city of Erie, to contact the city of Erie for a community development grant of $65,000. The proposal has been accepted.

34:57Speaker 5

Second reading. There is a discussion.

35:01Speaker 2

Excuse me, who is supporting this?

35:06Speaker 2

Thank you, Elen. Marsha Varmann.

35:10Speaker 6

There is a discussion. Mar Copeland.

35:12Speaker 2

Mar Copeland.

35:14Speaker 2

Mar Daraksel.

35:15Speaker 2

Mar Shavarman. Yes. Mar Wurtz.

35:18Speaker 2

Mar Wienerski.

35:21Speaker 2

Yosef Rosh Skotale.

35:22Speaker 3

New Business

35:28 – 36:04Speaker 2

The first reading of Order No. 81-2026 completes the general budget for the year 2026 at $880,425 for the implementation of additional incentives from incentives that were received from the Pennsylvania Election Commission. Introducing the proposal. Ah, excuse me, new businesses, excuse me. Decision number 27-2026, approval of a lease agreement with Lawrence Park for a land of offices located at minus 4,230 acres of Iroquois, Suite 100, Erie, Pennsylvania, for the legal facility 6301. Approval of proposal. Support.

36:04Speaker 3

There is a discussion. Mr. Tshoka.

36:09Speaker 2

Marda Raxel.

36:13Speaker 2

Mr. Chairman. Yes. Mr. Votz.

36:16Speaker 2

Mr. Winarski.

36:19Speaker 2

Mr. Copeland. Yes. Mr. Skaton.

36:25Speaker 2

C. Decision number 28-2026. Denial of the code of conduct for part number 05032166.00200.00. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Daraksel.

36:44 – 38:34Speaker 5

א, עבור החלטה C, אני רוצה להגיש הצעה לתיקון עם נספח א', המצורף. יש תמיכה? תמיכה. יש דיון? אם אתה מרגיש שזה מתאים. אם אתה רוצה להקריא את זה, קדימה. A. Decision number 28-2026 as specified is a violation of the interest rate for the sale of a part. I will not say the number in every range, but Ho'il is a city port that is located in Nadlan in the city of Kori outside of the eastern entrance and outside of Grov Street. The port is intended to sell the property. The code of the property requires the interest rate of Nadlan in the ownership of the port as a condition for the sale of the property. The value of the low-significant parts is higher than the two positive values. Therefore, it is decided that the code codes of the plant are given for a part of a number that does not say the number again. The meaning here is for a small strip that is quite flat. It is like a small area of five feet. And it will require two prices that will rise to a plant much more than they sell this piece of land. So, therefore, we choose to perform this repair. Mr. Chochius on the correction Mr. Schwermann Yes Mr. Wurtz Yes Mr. Winarski Yes Mr. Bale Yes Mr. Copeland Yes Mr. Daraksel Yes Mr. Skotale Yes Mr. Head of Staff I believe that we are still looking for a proposal on the decisions Proposal Meeting Support There is a discussion

38:39Speaker 2

Mar Winarski.

38:41Speaker 2

Mar Copeland.

38:43Speaker 2

Mar Daraksel.

38:44Speaker 2

Gverich Vermen. Yes. Yosef Harosh Sakatrela.

39:06 – 39:36Speaker 2

Hey. Possible sale of part of the property that was not identified in the index number 39006-007.2 July 54 Second discussion Mar Chokrak Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

39:56 – 40:18Speaker 5

Yeshivat Va'adat Koch Ha'adam v'haksefim haba'a hi b'yom 5-17 b'september 2026. Hayeshiva haragila haba'a shel mo'etzet ha'machoz hi b'yom 3-22 b'september. Hatsa'a li na'ilat hayeshiva. Ovchen, nekudat seder, hatsa'a li yeshiva segura. Sheni. Sheni. Mutsa. Ok, tov, anachnu pashut nelech.

40:18 – 40:32Speaker 4

Haim yesh hatsa'a lamed? Yes.

40:32Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

40:33Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Yes.

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