Historic Preservation Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

Seventeenth twenty twenty five, and I'm calling the meeting of the Erie Historic Preservation Advisory Board to order. Pledge of allegiance, please. Pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Madam secretary, roll call, please.

Mike Turner?

Here.

Deandrea Arendt? Here. Melanie Fuller's here. Rachel Folger? Here. Cesar Jimenez?

No. He's sick.

Okay. Laura Thomas? Here. Alex Wicks? Here. And I also see council members O'Connor and Peser Peseromelli? Yes. And Harry Brennan. And hi.

Hi. Chad Alexander, talent facilities manager. Great.

And you're from planning. You're from Town facilities. Oh, facilities?

Mhmm.

Yeah. The bell. Yeah.

Nice to meet you, Chad.

Alright. Has everybody read the agenda?

Yes. Yes. I have one.

No. That's the minutes we have to modify here.

We also have something incorrect on the agenda. It looks like it got it got updated for the printed version, so we're good. But I saw on the emailed version, it had the wrong date as our next

meeting. So Yeah.

Okay.

Laura caught it too.

Okay. May I have a motion?

Motion to approve the minutes as written. Second.

Okay. Laura has moved that we accept the agenda as written, seconded by Rachel. All in favor?

I

Laura? Yeah. Pass unanimously. The minutes?

I moved to approve the minutes. Oh, should I move

to approve the do. Touch them. That would and I was absent, so I can't move here. We're thankful for mulling.

I will approve or move to approve the minute.

Second?

I second.

K. Alex has moved. We accept the minutes as written. Seconded by Lara. Everybody in favor? Aye. Aye. Approved unanimously. I don't see anybody here, so I guess we don't have any public comment.

And I have a point of information. I would like to thank Mike and wish him a belated Veterans Day. Y'all hold on. Thanks. Here. Here.

Yeah. I got my free haircut on Tuesday.

It's nice. Looking sharp. It looks good. Yeah.

Thank you for your service.

No. Thanks.

Thank you for

your Were you? Anyone else in the military?

No. Oh, god. God. Just

Well, he's white. Were you in the Indian military?

I came here when I was 21 years old.

Oh, okay.

That when you would normally do it? Yeah. Not do it?

We don't It's

not required. Not necessary. Nice.

And we have a a COA submitted answering the questions that we had last month. So, mister Alexander, you're up.

Yeah. So we had the narrowness and then we're just hoping to really showcase the bell. I think it was back in 1997. Renovation at the Bell Tower was the windows were replaced with louvers, most likely to, you know, keep the elements out. And, and the result is really the bell's been fairly well protected.

And, in fact, I have a picture that I can send around if you haven't seen any of the actual bell in the tower. And what we're hoping to do is really showcase it with windows on the south and west side because it was in the visible, you know, window that you can actually see the bell. And, actually, you know, then at night, we would wanna put a circuit up there so you could illuminate the the tower at night so you can see it rendering here. This is just a Should be an old rendering, and then I think a question that came up was the size of the windows. They are custom built for the size of the opening.

So they literally went up there with a cardboard template, you know, did the exact size of the window, and so that's what would be installed as windows that we're actually opening now. And so, yeah, it's just an opportunity really to bring it back. The windows, obviously, if you go back way back, it wouldn't have had windows. It was open here, but that becomes problematic with the elements and just maintenance wise. So we offered, I think, two options.

One did have lions, and that kinda matches what the windows that were replaced back in, I think, 2019 have those. But they're not structural, so we would not have to put those. It could actually just have a clear fixed light window. So so that's what we'd like to do, and we're able to recognize, you know, budget through the project. And so to answer your question, there's no new appropriation that's covered by the project budget.

And yeah. So kinda bringing it back to the Lincoln School look. So and I think our question was when would you use the bill? I think that needs to be determined. We probably in talking with town management, would wanna look at a SOP for for that to determine, you know, what's appropriate for ringing the bell. And

And it's been a while.

Yeah. But it does I

think it needs to be on New Year's Eve.

New Year's Eve.

Ringing of the bell. Mhmm. Just like they do, you know, in New York instead of dropping a ball, we'd be ringing.

Right.

I like that. Stuff we

didn't catch. For a big party.

Does somebody have any questions

until we're new to release?

Mhmm.

And the bell has the the rope was up there. You know, we we did try it. It does ring, and so it's actually, bell is in pretty good condition, relatively speaking, for me as long as it is. So

you said there would be glass on the south and west side, and on the north and east side, it would still be louvered? Or what is it on?

Right now, it's louvered, and so that would give a little bit of ventilation, you know, so that the glass Right. Actually wouldn't fall in. But we we could look at other options too to

So

So if the residents have any grievances, can they come and do it then?

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Love it. It's a great as a usually, with this building is it is a nationally registered property. Yeah. So that was my question. The second question is, is the glass gonna be like plexiglass? No. Real glass? And what's the frame gonna be made out of?

Extruded aluminum just like the the ones that we installed in 2019. So

I thought it was Which were because the other side doesn't work with the Yeah. Aluminum is

is not it aluminum is not authorized for this property.

So how did the because the windows that we did in 2019 are the same exact

Yeah. That was the certification?

Yeah. No. 2019.

They they were they brought them before HPAB was approved. That's okay.

So Then if it was approved in a COA, then I'm not gonna deny that if it was approved by a a different group.

No. Yeah. It was approved in CS.

Is the the same is gonna be aluminum as well?

So, yeah, the difference so to your point, difference is if we went with no center mullions, there wouldn't be that centerpiece that looks like wood on the inside. Yeah. Like, from the outside, it does have that

Yeah. No. We're always So you would you would

have a frame, exterior frame, you didn't have any center mullions that was extruded aluminum Mhmm. But would have a trim piece that that would you know, that could be matching the same and trim color that we can

Yeah. Because if it's a composite, that's fine. Right? But if there's aluminum in there now and it was approved, then I would just say the window and yeah. I don't I don't forget what you call them. The crosses, the loins. The what? Moins. Yeah.

The center loins. Okay. They're architectural. They're not

anything that's required. I didn't know if you kept it from going. As long as they're not as long as they're not vinyl.

Yeah. No vinyl on these. Yeah.

The vinyl is a big no no. And so are you gonna make those aluminum, or are they gonna be composite?

We don't have to install those at all. So they could just be a clear piece of glass that showcases the bell. I'm just thinking of the wind. Yeah. I don't think I don't think we're super concerned about that. These are three quarter inch panes. I mean Oh. I think it's Okay. Yeah. So and if if that were the case, then we you know, we're basically I'm

just concerned about the frame. Of course, you really can't see. Mhmm. But the lures or whatever, you can definitely shake. So that would be if you decide to put them in, please don't make them vinyl. Yeah. Okay. Because

Mike, Hpev could make that call. Do you want or do you not want? If you don't want, it would look more open air. What are they called? I've also seen a term called muttons.

Right.

Muttons are muttons.

I know.

So there's It's

the Like, there's

You can so if you envision it without them, it would be more open air.

I actually like that.

Yeah.

What was what was the birds.

The original schoolhouse.

Well, I guess other than

It had nothing. It was open for it.

So it would be more original to have no mullions or muttons. Correct?

Yes. Yeah. Well, that that's a point. Yeah.

I do like how it matches the rest of the windows.

But

Yeah. We can have a window. But

I think either choice is better than what's there next. Right. Right. Yeah. Thanks. What any concern was any concern raised about when the bell is wrong and the impact it has on the glass? Yeah. The vibration,

is it

you know, that would not be a concern.

Yeah. I haven't heard that concern raised, but and then I don't know

if we Or

is that because the lures are open?

On the backside or the North Reserve? House. It went up

to Yeah. So the sound wouldn't be locked in.

No. For sure. Windows are your your biggest sound you know, allowing sound out or in.

It just might need some sort of sound what do you call that? Dampening. Foam. Dampening. Dampening. Yeah.

I would be in favor with with no muttons to make it look more original, personally, but I'm fine with either way.

I think without can you pull up the original?

Yes.

I did have a historical story to share that I've gathered since our last meeting about the values readable.

I hate this. Yeah.

Yeah. So

that's the I think the

frame I don't know if that's not the right word for it, but the yeah. I think the frame that's, like, holding

the bell. Still there. Still in, you know, easily

Okay.

Okay shape. There was a actually, the roof must have leaked at some point because there was clearly some water. Not damages. You know, you could tell that there's water that sat there. But, yeah, otherwise, you know, cleaning up the bell would be about all that we're required because it's actually in

you know? Is it brass or

is it a ball that you were in slash? You know, here. I can pull it up here.

Can have what metal is?

So there's also a video. Let's pass the picture around.

That's pretty cool. It's beautiful in there.

It's got two things going on.

It's actually cleaner than I like, overall in there than I would have thought.

I thought that'd be bird dropping. I really if you want.

Do you know

what kind of metal it is?

The bell, it's probably so tarnished. It's hard to tell until it gets real.

If it's tarnished, it might be brass or bronze. That's a lot

cooler than I thought it

Let's

try one more time. What metal is it?

Well, I'm talking about the '19 we're talking about right around 1900. It could be steel.

Wow.

So cool.

It looked

to us like it was Phoenix. Stupid. No glass.

Yeah. I can't believe it.

But the birds, we can't avoid. The bird

they got. It says on

for the

thing. Yeah. And the spikes.

So I saw the put some weird things so they don't So they don't buy any

was a

fun This copper is such so much.

It was campaigning. I saw these all the kids.

Really? I bet. Yeah. Spikes that you heard?

Spikes and there was something. Like, interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

That light you care about.

I'm gonna reflect the light.

I I would bet that most residents of this town All lighting. Up in here Yeah. In good way. Yep. Never seen it.

Yay. Yeah. Somebody gifted it to us.

Okay. You've seen it.

A fake owl? Well, I've seen it now.

Scares me the birds. It

is coming in there.

Really neat. Oh. Yeah. I think

the louvers have kept the bird.

Yeah. That looks that's that it looks like steels.

The the ghost that looks up there that's

talking to him. Yeah. You might see that, Justin. You could

tell with your We're looking at the

It's a

Bring it to

that. Bells. I like this idea.

How

do you spell that word? Mullions? Muttons?

You can it. L l

I 0 n s. Mullions.

Oh, Mullions. Oh, With Mullions.

Mullions. Mullions. You're like rapscal. That's more.

If we're all agreed that without the millions, then I need to approve the COA without them.

That's the

the Without stipulation. Are they in there? Are the part of the COA currently or no?

No. I think I'll put

it in there as at least the narrative shows that you could have options with or without depending on.

Because we're if I'm thinking about the the presentation, the design that was shown to us last month had them there. So Would it be possible before our council to get an updated version of this with alpha? Yeah. That would

be Okay.

Cool. We can do that. But do you like it without the glass?

Yeah. But it would be

Maintenance issue.

The maintenance issue. Like, the birds. You put deterrents. Right? Like, the whatever flying

in. Mhmm.

Four foot by what is that? Six foot opening?

They have a lot of birds.

Yeah. You have weather and

Put some in there. It's

It's kind of a, yeah, maintenance headache.

Can choose climbing up there. And Yeah. Doing an old guy

off of terrible. Yeah.

That one.

You just did. That's a good idea, man.

Yeah. What? What? Okay. I need a motion.

I'll motion to approve the COA.

Without the Moya. Without the Moya. Second. Second. Second. It has been moved by Alex and seconded by Rachel that HPAB approves the COA with just the plain glass without the millions. All in favor? Aye. Passed unanimously.

Thank you. Thank you for

your future.

Thought I'll share my story, Oh, great.

Yeah. What's

So after our last meeting, I went and talked to my friend Ruth. She's lived in Old Town her entire life. You've met Ruth. So she lives in the house just catty corner here. Yeah. Yellow now, so that's where she grew up. And now she's on Moffett. But she went to the Lincoln School, and then her and her mom were the custodians Oh, wow. At the school. So every single day after school, her and her mom would come and clean the school forever and ever.

And then she continued to clean the school once it moved to to Erie Elementary, and she did that for a super long time as well. But once they moved to Erie Elementary, the PTO rallied together and said, we're gonna go get the bell, and we're gonna put it on the stand, and we're gonna move it and have it on display at Erie Elementary. And so she said they raised money for a super long time, but but just could never get enough money put together. And the town didn't have a crane or any sort of way to, like, actually get it. And so eventually, the dream died that they were gonna move the bell.

And so she was told at some point that the bell was gone, that either it was stolen or it was moved. Yeah. And so when I told her this story a few weeks ago, she was so excited to hear that the bell was still in there because she thought all these texts that it was was gone. So

How special.

Old town local. Very excited. And I told her about this, and she's like, oh my gosh. That has to happen. Very excited. And she said they would ring it every morning.

So Wow. So Love it.

Yeah. It went to school bill.

Posted about it on Facebook, and there were many residents that said, I went to that school during leisure. Yeah.

I Yeah. It had me thinking, like, that should we try to reach out and get quotes from these residents? Yeah. Do they have picture when they were a student Yeah. And a picture now and do a board

That'd be really fun.

In, you know, the the new town hall or the newly renovated town hall and just Yeah. There's a guy

in my life history. Group, Hal Brown, graduated from that high school at Lincoln School.

Yeah. Lincoln School.

Yeah. In '54 or something like that, he graduated from that.

That would be so cool to have a class photo and a current photo.

Just like a cool you know, a sentence or two. He's 90 now. Wow.

Definitely will be a dedication. Hope it like, when it's done, some sort of

Probably not before New Year's.

Well, no. I don't think that's gonna happen. Before New

Year's or something.

Trying to commemorate it. I'm trying. Just keep forgetting about.

Thanks for your work on this.

Yes. Thank you, Scott. Yeah. Awesome. I think to you a point, we had the same impression that that bell was moved somewhere and sort of discover it when we were in project.

That is interesting. Yeah.

We said, well, we'll we'll see if we can recognize the funds through the project. If not, figure it out in some other way, but so it's good to It'd

be nice to have lures to be gone so people can actually see it.

The rumors start. Right?

Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. That's awesome. Thank you, Chad.

Yeah. You bet, Trevor.

Yeah. Any other questions about the home while I'm here? Or

we're just We walked down the hall a little bit.

It looks really nice. Yeah.

It's almost

It's brand new.

Yeah. We're getting close.

The other side is open, though?

Not yet. Not yet. Not Actually, gonna be in the move process over the next couple weeks. So first first week of being open would be the first week in December. So

Is there gonna be, like, a grand opening open house or anything like that?

We have a ribbon cutting tentatively scheduled for January sometime, so after everybody gets kinda settled. So I don't know if we'll be able to, you know, procure the windows because they are custom built and everything have that done by that time. But

Are you working here or over at law?

I my office is over at the service center. So, yeah, I'm at them at law.

So you're at the what?

At the Leon a World.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. I said the Law Building and Yep. Leon A World Public Works Building.

Yeah.

Will you be moving

over here after? No. No.

We'll be moving so there's some satellite facilities where we got staffed right now. We'll be bringing to you all, but, no, it's not there. So

Thank you very much.

You bet. Thank you. Thank

you. Hey. At our last meeting, you weren't here, Melanie. We were we were discussing end of year funds, and we've got $3,000. So what

minutes. It was great.

Yeah. Got all all caught up. It

was fun. So we were gonna miss Thomas decided that she would volunteered to look up the materials and tell us what she thinks we should get.

For the booth, it sounded like?

Mhmm. Yeah. I have can I have the thingamabob to

Yes? Sure thing. Share?

Yeah. Thingamabob. Is a

Harry, what's the exact amount we have left? 30

So thing? Actually, the boost upgrade purchases we made still haven't hit because that came through a planning purchase card, so that has to get ring well, has has to kinda go around that way through budget to be taken out. So it actually still hasn't hit our budget line. So we still have 3,994. Okay. And

what was the expected cost of the materials?

I think it came out to about $3.40.

340?

Yeah.

Oh, we thought we were gonna spend a lot more. Yeah. Like,

3,000 easy. Yeah. Yeah.

The the military was in the same way. October 1 is fiscal year. So at the end in September, they would just buy all this stuff because if you don't use it, the next year your budget gets reduced.

I wish there was a way to roll it over.

You know? Yeah.

Because it just seems

so easy for

us to for any department to do that.

Right. It seems like not good incentive to be able to

No. Use it or Google. But

Techniques. Do I go from the from Michelle's? How do I, like, get to this meeting in the first place?

Like Oh, you so you have to type in just your Chrome browser. It's zoom.combackslashshare.

Mike, the where is this link and the attachments? Because it wasn't in the agenda that was sent out.

Oh. And then we

did This this this link was sent last month. Just a

second. Okay. Because the agenda that was part of our meeting packet doesn't have this, and I know Michelle's gonna want it.

So it's in that one? Yeah. It's in last month's. Okay. Because it was we put it in last month's, and we sent it back

Okay.

To get these questions answered.

I saw that. I just none of these were No.

I didn't include it because it was already submitted last month.

Okay.

So she Michelle should have it.

Will she want it as part of the minutes? Probably so, I would guess.

Oh, I don't know. Okay.

With the

So the COA and all the attachment links

She should have it? Or

Notes for this month. Right.

Okay. I'll I'll need to talk to her. So I think one of the iterations of the agenda that she sent me had links to all like, those were all live links.

Mhmm.

But I'll I'll talk to her and see if she has what she needs. I since we've had these a bunch of attachments to add to the agenda the last, like, three, four months Mhmm. I've been running it through our typical packet software with her that we do for, like, town council. Gotcha. And so I think she added it all.

But I just opened the one that she shared, and it's on her link, but it wasn't on the one Mike sent.

Oh, okay.

Okay. So I think that's where I always copy Mike's from our meeting packet because McDonald's is a different yeah. Michelle's is something I can't edit, so I always copy his. That's where

it was.

Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. I understand what's happening.

Yeah. She puts it in a in a format. We can't.

Right. It's just a PDF.

Yeah. Yeah. We can't. We don't have the software to modify a PDF.

So I always just use use those.

Alright. I'll think about that. See if I can improve that.

Yeah. Even though the the town has it's not on SharePoint.

Right. Right. It's on SharePoint.

Or if it's not

a big deal that I don't include the link, then it's not a problem. But

I'll ask her about that.

Okay. Just make sure that I'm

I don't wanna make Michelle then.

Yes. Get a new Canopy talk.

Yeah. So I I reached out to Gabby, and they can order the canopy top and the tablecloth for us. And these were the the approximate costs for that. She recommended the higher quality tint that kinda goes with what everyone else has. It has the tree logo on the peak with h path on the front panel. I didn't know if we would want just one tablecloth or a backup for any reason or if we had, like, a secondary table for any reason or anything like that, but I just have one there for now. The sign holders, I'm happy. It's literally just black. Or no. Sorry.

These these are the ones I brought. These are the ones that are, like, the wood with the plexiglass so that you can show things, which are just nice to have for

Yeah. Wind protectors. Anything.

Yeah. And you can put weights on the back so they don't blow over.

They're pretty heavy. I've never had an issue because it's old wood base. Mhmm.

And a solid wood?

I mean Pretty heavy. Enough. That's good.

Yeah. Like, you know, you shouldn't need them because the weight of the plexiglass and everything holds it down.

That's good. Yeah.

So I would get two of those so you have six total because they come in packs of

three. Okay.

The tabletop shams are just these kinda real easy guys as well. It's more like for our

Are they like the ones you brought last time? Yep. Yeah. Just put a little s.

They're, like, for books.

I don't know why this

one's not

wanting to open, but oh, that's the name. Good time. I'll I'll get that link fixed. Oh, there. It's this one. So, yeah, they're just like the if you're putting up books or anything that you're trying to display Mhmm. If it's a smaller picture or smaller anything.

Pretty good.

It's just nice to have those guys, for tabletop stuff. The poster frames, they're just two by three. I again, I don't know how many photos we have.

Or We have six. We have Oh, all all of them the big huge ones. Right now, we have three.

Three photos?

Yeah. Three three maps and things like that. So

So these come in a four pack?

Oh, that would be good. That's fine.

And so I don't I didn't know if we I mean, we might as well get two of them. We can use

for

some Yeah. Mhmm. Have for the future. And I I found these grid ones, these grid wall hangers. Instead of doing s hooks, which could be a little wonky, these were nice because they

they

I don't know why. They're specifically four picture frames on a grid as opposed to an s hook that's just kind of a little more general. I don't know why my links are being wonky. It's really annoying. So, yes, they do those exist, so I will get you the right ones. Yeah. It's hardware. You

Yeah.

Look at a picture of hardware. It's essentially what I was showing. Railroad spikes, I we had talked about using those instead as, like, holding down paper and stuff. Yeah. They're just kinda fun. I don't know how heavy they are, to be honest, though.

They are railroad spikes are probably a good three to five pounds.

It says they're carbon steel. So

Yeah. Oh, that's pig irons. That's a little lighter.

That's 2.92 kilograms.

Yeah. So

there's there's a guy on eBay selling old Union Pacific ones for $2 a pop. You buy 50 and shipping's free.

Yeah. There you go. 50. Those would be better.

I was not sure about anything. Not at any.

But I

don't know how that works with the town purchasing them.

So that's 2.92 kilograms is almost six and a half down.

Worth. They they do have weight to them. $2. Solid steel.

It's like a good deal. Right?

I don't

know, actually.

I don't know.

Someone's just walking down the line picking them up.

Wanna email me that? I will happily

You don't have to we don't have to purchase the wing nuts. I've got those.

Cool. I just I just threw those down there because

I Yeah.

But if we were to do generally like that purchase, that does not include tax. So I would say we're about a thousand dollars to do that component of things. I know we had talked about maybe doing, a little some more merch or not merch. Some more, wearables. I

let me show you those real quick too.

I would recommend I think hats are always just an easy thing. We can order more. And so, you know, anyone outside of this or beyond us, that's something that's easy to pass on to. They don't have to be everyone's gets the right size or what you know, the hat. I don't love they they we have to go through a certain vendor, and I don't think our yellow design looks good on this colored hat because it's light green, yellow on light green. So I would recommend doing the darker of this hat so that your the logo actually shows up.

Hope so.

The rest of them have a khaki like that, top, which just doesn't, to me, help our logos. Just a regular T shirt is, like, $16.17 bucks, and I got a bazillion pictures you can do. These are kinda cute. Recorders. I don't you know, hoodie.

It's like all kind of basic stuff. I just don't know if that's something that we're really interested in or if it's just the women's sweaty versus the the more masculine side. I feel like that's just neither here nor there. I would be more interested in which I have it depends on how many we print. I think we should upgrade all of our printing. That's what I think we should use all of our other budget towards, and we have plenty of it. Like, reprint the stuff so that it's, like, printed from a printing company to give it just some more of a glow sharper shot.

I agree. I don't wanna spend money just to spend money. Right. Even if we're at the risk of losing our budget, I feel like budgets can change from year to year. I don't wanna spend town taxpayer dollars just to just to have a nice T shirt.

Yeah. I think I think a hat's nice because we can you know, like I said, that's something that can and it's the cheapest of all of this, and sometimes it's easier to throw on a hat and not have to change your whole outfit for an event if you're coming from somewhere else or whatnot. But the rest of it to me is kind of yeah. That's not where I would put the money here. I would say that that Good.

And then I had one I'm we're having this exact same conversation at work about tabling with, my my day job. And so it was interesting, something that came up that I thought would be a really good idea if we get so many kids who come up to our families and tables. And, you know, like, no kid wants a mint. I hate to say it. And I think are okay for some of the older kids. You know, you put them on a water bottle or something. But, like, little kids, it would be really fun if we created something like like a eerie, something to color, and you give, like, little colors or something like that that's like a history page. Then if if it was, like, a minor or if it was something Like, if That would be. Like, almost teach them about.

Right. Or, like, history of eerie in, like, a little paper booklet or something that they could take home and color.

You can

I grew up on a dairy farm, and we had field trips all the time that kids would come to our dairy farm and learn about farming? And we gave them, like, a little paper pamphlet about dairy farming to teach the kids, and it was a big kid.

Always. Like, my I don't know a kid who doesn't get excited about crayons and coloring. I still get excited. Like, give me your crayon. But yeah.

So one activity that's pretty successful with the tree board is tree cookies.

Mhmm.

So cut the discs, drill a hole, have all these supplies, like crayons, markers, with little rubber rope to hang.

Right.

And and those are really popular at the at that table. I don't know if there's anything.

I have several of those at my house. My kids.

Alex. Jesus.

The kids are fans. Alex is not. Oh my god.

They're great. They're great.

I didn't get to getting pricing for that today, but if it's something we're interested in and if we had available budget, I think we'd something we could look

Yeah. We wanna order a coloring book.

It doesn't have to be big, and it doesn't have

to be a

lot of pages. It could be something super tiny. Yeah. Right.

Just a little booklet.

Yeah. That's right. So we'll just be getting really the crayons because I think the booklet itself, the printing of that would be pretty nominal.

Well, the town printer probably

Do that.

Would know how to get would know how to do that.

Right. So that's just that was just something that came up, but I do think when you get the kids to come in to get something, you inevitably get the adults, and then you're having a

conversation with doing it. So

Something to increase the foot traffic. Wooden ore carts. What? Wooden ore carts cut out.

Oh. I love it.

A little miner's pick.

I it.

And I love it.

I'm happy to to expand on this a little bit more, but I think the stuff that, like, we need, we have to have is about a thousand dollars. And we know we've got other budget. I would just need to know how many we need to get the files put together to know what we need to reprint to give it a little more sense. I think it's not creative. It's not gonna be that big of a cost. We're not gonna pay that much, and it's not like a whole bunch of so I I don't know where those files live, Mike. Are those on

They're most of them are OneDrive.

I'm still on OneDrive.

I I normally ask Harry because the big printing that's here. Nah. So he does it. Gotcha. Or he sends it to Yeah. I've Gabby to do it. Yeah. Plotter over here.

So I have the map and PDF, and then the I mean, yeah, the the photos are still on too.

But

Well, we can coordinate on that to see exactly what's there. And

As long as we're looking for.

Yes. There's three of them.

Right. And if and if it makes sense too, I don't know if all of them, like, have to be at the two by three size. If if we had a different size, then anything's getting printed out that we can coordinate to make sure we get Yeah.

The only thing that's not the same size is the because I get a lot of questions about the Switzerland Trail, And that's the only one that's smaller.

Okay. Then we can get the accurate frame for

Yeah.

For those that were not

He and I did it. We we we we took this little tiny booklet. Remember? Yeah. We made these big pages

out of it. So I love the idea of the booklet or the something to engage the kids, but would that be something we needed to work on for next year, or could we Well,

I think if

we could get the crayons this go around, I think we can develop the other part later. Okay. Yeah. Potentially, if it's just really just printing off of paint.

Oh, I need a four

That's

sound fair.

The cut to the crowns was fair.

Look at

the Yes. I'd be more

expensive than paper. Okay. And those are And just

the little three are Yeah. Was gonna

say, like, the two packs that's, like, two different colors on each end. Right. Okay. Like, where Yeah.

I know. I just need Yeah.

Oh, yes.

I can do some

if we did hats, booth upgrades, that would be about $1,500?

I don't know how many hats we would wanna get. I just had 10. 10 is about a 190. And, again, we have we have tax and things like that. So, yeah, I

think if we wanted to do more Including the crayons, probably 1,500.

Do wanna

And that's for us, or they said seller? Okay. Yeah.

Maybe for us I mean, we could upgrade at the booth. Yeah. Yeah. We can upgrade that to, like, 15 or something just so any members after this, you're not having to redo another order of it. Just

No. We can send that through.

Yeah. If we wanna increase off the phone.

Never know. Well, if

if we wanna if we wanna increase the 1,500, then we're gonna vote on it. Can't spend money without a vote.

Right. Right. So I'm

just saying 1,500 should be then covered.

Because $9.09 23 plus

don't spend it.

Plus the hats are $2.00 9. Yeah. So that's 1,100.

Yeah. Let me move this up. Let me oops.

And so once once the booth upgrades hit that we already paid for, I think we'll have $3,770.

I'm just

saying, do we wanna approve more and not spend it? And, you know, if, like, if we approve to spend so much and it doesn't we don't actually spend that. It's not like we have to reimprove. Yeah. Like True.

So what's your proposal?

Because then I could I could also send out saying, like, found these crayons and Okay.

Yes. This Crayola crayons.

There are two colors on each crayon. Right.

You do a point of a packet.

Probably want a Toxic. You probably want a four to six pack. Just a little

A thousand a case of a thousand for $56. I mean, that's one. That's just one. Yeah. Mhmm. Those are.

It's been ages we saw crayons in our home.

Did that updated spreadsheet, Laura, did that include

All the walls here. That.

Just

had to give them away.

The $9.23.

I think this is, like, quite right. Like, my formula here's a

Crayola brand for So

that doesn't have tax.

So we already approved the 1,500?

Well, no. No. No. We haven't approved anything out

of that. We have to vote on 1500.

I just thought you did that.

Because we were waiting we authorized, like, $500, you

know Gotcha.

For what she got. And then, you know I go

to school crayon because they're.

They also go with the trash very quickly. Alright. I hate to say it as a parent, but it

that's true. They just don't.

They just don't.

So if we approve up to 1,500, we should be covered.

Yeah. On that note, may I ask, if you're giving away the coloring books, why are you necessarily supplying crayons if you think they're gonna end up in the trash anyway?

It's that is true. I I think it's more of just like

If they're gonna do it on-site.

They're gonna