Historic Preservation Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

No. Has been motion by Laura that we accept the agenda as written, seconded by Rachel. All in favor? Aye. Has everyone had the opportunity to read the minutes? May I have a motion, please?

I move to accept.

I have a second.

I'll send it.

No. Deandrea move that we accept the minutes as written, seconded by Caesar. All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

We will have I don't see anybody here, so there's no public comment. So yeah. Just so just to reiterate in this, there's not a way to do a an in person and video. So if they're not here, there's nobody. So okay.

Under the general business events, what did everybody get an opportunity yesterday? I mean, today, Melanie sent out an email listing everybody who had volunteered. Okay? Alex, you probably haven't seen it yet.

I haven't.

You do have an area code address now.

I got one. Yep.

Yes. Yep.

Okay. So if you are able to attend that day, it's Sunday, September 7. Okay? From ten to two. So if you're willing if you're able to set up or work during the day, just let Melanie know.

There's a email with, like, some time slots that we all tried to pick one.

Yeah. So if you Yeah. Yeah. I definitely can.

Okay.

Same email, one for airfare one for bisque biscuit day,

which is September 20.

And September 20 is biscuit day. That's downtown. As you know, I will be working. And did you find out time yet?

For biscuit day?

Yeah.

Eight to oh, no. I have not. It's not since this afternoon. I probably won't for another week.

Y'all

It'll be maybe week of that I know whether or not I can be there.

It's probably in the afternoon, but who knows?

Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes there's a morning game. So

Yeah. Okay.

Old business budget report.

So budget report, no surprises. We're still sitting at the full $4,000.

Can we

approved. Right? I know that it hasn't been spent yet, but I'm just putting that.

Yeah. We approved, like, a $100. Hey. I was, oh, $5,500? Hey. We need some we won't use them on the airfare because you won't have the room for it, but we need some stand up screens. And I know you got two we can borrow, but we'd like to get our own if we can.

Stand up what?

The screens to hold? The screens to put the pictures and everything on. You know what I'm talking about?

Like a phone cord or anything?

No. Like a The ones that I have. A bench? Yeah. Like a retail rack. It's about two foot by six foot with the I mean, there's all different styles out there. Treeboard has a trifold. Okay.

If you remember what we did for what we used when we did the railroad layout and those metal ones, those were from the tree board. We borrowed them. So but I would like to think about and we're talking about budget. We got a couple weeks yet, so we could get them here. I don't know if somebody I'd like to think about neighboring put a budget of up to $500 to get them.

Do you

have any idea what they cost? Let me see. Could I propose another thing to

send them?

I think if needed, some kind of banner that says historical preservation board on it.

We have one. We

haven't have we used it?

Yes. It's there every time. It's hanging in the back.

Do we have a tablecloth?

Because I I remember at the Arbor Day, I had a hard time finding the does our tent say something different? No.

The tent says historic preservation.

Oh, they does. Yeah. It it says it says preservation on one side and the other say OTE.

See, there's Maybe it's one of the things.

Yeah. Because I I don't

if I get a wheel one or not. Feel like

Those are, like, what, a 100 apiece. Right?

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

What is the sign for? I missed it. I was typing.

Oh, she was talking about a banner.

I around the Arbor Day several times before I found our tent because it said I think it's because it said OTE instead of Yeah.

I mean, it's OTE on the sides and historic preservation on the front and the back. Okay. Alright.

So what were the signs you were talking about before, Deandrea? There's

Oh. Oh. Racks. What was

Brian looking at? Let's see. There's

all different types. There's

Well, I like the I like the ones that pre board has.

The display grid.

Oh, for historic district?

Or

No. Just in general for so that you guys have display material or display grid.

Yeah. Because we have lots of pictures now, And especially if we're gonna do were you able to get the oh, no. We'll get there when we get there. So because we also wanna put the big foam boards up.

We could put historic district information on it too.

Is that what you're thinking?

Yeah. Just clip. Yeah.

And Mhmm.

Walking tours and all the things they hand out.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're about a $100 a piece. Right, Brian?

It's a 100 for two.

A 100 for two?

Yeah. So

I think we need about I can look into how No. I think for I think about four of them. Is what the tree board uses.

That we or we did something different there with a trifold. Yeah. It's like and it with metal feet on them.

Yeah.

Similar kind of look, but there's all different options out there.

Yeah. So I'm not looking to spend a lot of money like a trifold, so I'd like to go with

get four of them. Would you put

them on the table? Or No. They're big. They're six feet.

On the floor?

They're six by four.

No. Well, two by six and three by six.

You know, we want the three by sixes.

So No. They're a $162

a box.

Because we have that many pictures and that much display material now.

Okay. I'm just wondering in our in our In our separate of the booth, do can we fit all that and the table and the I don't know.

You can fit two of those easily.

Well, you think four. So I'm just thinking

We could fit two on each side. That's no problem. Okay. Even if we stick a little about if we stick a little out, which were if we wanna do the if we wanna really do the thing about historic district, then Right. We kind of go ahead and put it in their way. Right. So they're gonna trip over it, so they have to read it.

Well, I know having the stuff, like, hanging like we did last time was not ultimately effective. It was just, blowing.

Yeah. But talking you asked about did we have a table cloth? We do, but it says parks and rec on it. So I just turn it over, you know, so it's all black. Okay. But there's really no way to attach the sign in front for it unless we come up with something because it's not very big. I put it up with bungee cords.

You can get custom tablecloth

not too bad. So the other thing that was doing was to Mhmm. Got a few pieces

of quarter inch acrylic Mhmm.

And put, like, the flat stuff on the table and then put the acrylic over it so it doesn't blow away in the wind. Mhmm.

Yeah. If you were

trying to get stuff away, just put a few on top of it.

Yeah. That's too smart.

I have some display things too, or you can also just purchase them for the kit, so to say, of, like, you know, tabletop displays of of just basic information you want. You know, if we wanna put, like, one of our flyers and stuff like that, or if we wanna blow one up and have that available. I think we just need to decide what we want on what sides. I will say you can probably get a custom table cloth for, like, $50.

So, yeah, we'll talk about the district stuff when we get there. Yeah. But I just wanna know we can spend up to what what, 300, $400 getting the display rights?

The three by sixes were a $101.62 for but I didn't look at the reviews. Yeah.

Like the six. Yeah. It

just flows over

60. To my. Yeah.

Yeah. We could get some small sandbag things, and that takes care of that pretty quickly.

I should wanna how are you gonna attach the graphics? Are you gonna clip them, magnets?

Clips. You do clips or clips?

Kinder clips. Finder clips works.

That's cheap. It is. Totally. Okay. So

I mean, I think if we wanna just put out, like, for now, like, a $500 that's there to cover all Yeah. Like, upgrades, I think that's a fair thing, and we'll figure out what that entails. But boost upgrades is Yeah.

We can call it that.

Fair motion?

Yeah. I need a motion.

I motion. We spend up to $500 for booth upgrades.

I have a second.

Second.

Cesar beat you.

Oh, yeah. I just I

can hear you. So You there? Second.

That's you.

Yeah. It's Rachel moved that we allocate up to $500 for materials that we need for a booth upgrade. It has been seconded by Caesar. All in favor? Aye. It's unanimous. Thank you. Historic district.

Sorry. Who's purchasing this stuff? What? Who's purge like, action items? Who's purchasing them?

Logistics. Yeah. I think it makes sense. Once you all sort of select or find what you're purchasing, send me an email, and I don't have a purchasing card in my cell or my own, so I'll have to run it through finance. But so, yeah, just I I think once we once

we

select

always good

for we have, like, a shopping cart, I can Mhmm. Send it through finance, and they can give me a card number to use.

And if we're gonna get, like, a custom table cloth, do we have the bids for that, or can we just pick that one?

That kind of thing, you don't need to do bids for. Yeah. K. Good question though.

We can go through fast signs or something.

Yeah. Okay.

Larry, you were mentioning about signage for Historic District. We had talked about getting those big four by four four by six. What do you think? Four by four?

This is with I'm working on there.

Yes. So you get a little from your computer.

That's a bit.

So I think you'll get a Zoom.

So I think we decided to get one of those big foam boards and then print out what she had done explaining what the historic district was and mounted on that big board and display it. And that's what I was talking about, put it a little bit out so it just sticks there to grab people attention. So so that's what we had talked about. And since it really wouldn't cost anything because we can get everything from the town.

Doing I apologize for your hearings.

So you already have that thing that Laura sent out explaining what it was. You already have that saved off. Right, Harry?

Sorry. I'm gonna go multitasking. What? I'm glad you asked. Yeah.

You know, the thing that she did that explained this is what a historic district is, blah blah. Yeah. You know, the multicolored thing. Yeah. And we need that printed out in sign in in bulletin.

Okay. Yeah.

And then we need we need to get that mounted on a foam board.

Okay.

Yeah. If you can get the foam board and get that printed out, I can take care of the mounting.

Yeah. I can do that.

Okay. Then I don't know that I need to share. What?

You're gonna want it the grid width. So you have to probably decide that first.

Yeah. It's four by four, isn't it? No. The grid's

not four.

But Grid.

Six by

The six by two, depending on

What's the ones you print out on that big banner printer?

So I can do on the plotter a maximum of 36 inches wide.

So three feet.

So typically, yeah, I do, like, a 24 by 36. But if it that could be the portrait orientation. So you can do, like, a 36 inch tall, 24 by inch or 24 inch wide.

Yeah. That's fine. Okay. And then you just get the foam board. If I have to cut it, I'll cut it.

Yeah. I've we've got lots of those. Yeah. Pardon? We we have lots of those. I can yeah.

And I was able to talk to mayor Moore when Harry and I were at the sustainability thing that was being done for the town sustainability. You were there. So I got to talk with Andrew Moore and mayor Moore, and he understands a lot more about what's going on. And just a nice guy.

So A lot more about the historical What we're trying

now Brian had explained it to him. I explained it to him in more detail. He understands and he agrees that it's probably a good idea. So but and he was a caught a little bit by surprise when we dumped it on him at the meeting.

Well, it was their first.

Yeah. First real meeting. But so this time on my when I do my on the ninth, I have to do the semiannual. So every six months, we have to do a presentation to the town council and make their eyes go glass over. So

Well, just to update about what Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So gonna do for, you know, what we're gonna do for Biscuit Day. So so, yeah, I keep mine short. It's only, like, four slides, five slides. It's pretty short. And Brian tells me, I'm shucking. Yes.

Check Yeah. That again.

Yeah. So

you got anything to add?

Well, I was told last week to put together budget last month, whatever. I know we could do this on those first, so take that out of this. But I know we wanna do full color flyers, and so I don't know if approximately 500 seems like the right amount, if that's too much between the two.

Well, Old Town, there's 400 and something residences.

Right. Obviously, that's the at the between biscuit day and airfare. Are these

eight by eleven?

Yeah. These are just regular

The the people at the airfare, we're we're gonna be there. Most people like to know about railroad and stuff like like that. We can have some of that there, but most of the people that are gonna come by are not from the town.

Good to know.

Yeah. Because last time, two years ago, they said there was between four and five thousand people there. Yeah.

So that is not gonna be our primary Yeah. K?

Yeah. So

Okay. Well, I mean, the 500 was just kind of been thinking that people who might pick it up for whatever reason. I don't know if we want more. But because I imagine there will be people who will pick it up that aren't necessarily old town residents. Yeah. And and just because there's 400 some properties, more than one person lives in necessarily each one.

Yeah.

So just I I can bump that up or bump it down. It really does not make a difference sending 500 and

And then and if you wanna print them if you wanna print them so we can send a letter or something like that or just have them to hand out.

And so that was my thought too. I was gonna say if we want to go ahead and think towards mailing, then I would do the 1,000 and and go that route. I didn't know if we wanted to first see, like, what was kind of the response during biscuit day and then do a mail out, or if we wanna do it all at once and go for it that way.

I don't think we're ready for a mail out.

Yeah. I don't know. Really? I I don't know.

I would prefer that we wait till after after biscuit day. Yeah. So we give people because I don't wanna smack them in the face without at least giving them the opportunity because biscuit day is a thousand people. So and a lot of old town go. Right.

I almost wonder if we have just the display items for airfare and then have flyers for biscuit day. Day is much more of, a local event versus airfare is more of a

I've never done airfares, so that is news to me. That means it's it's alright.

Last time, we were right next to the van.

Do you request to be moved?

Yeah. What? Did you make the request? I said, don't put me by the van first. Because I I mean, whenever we had to talk, we had to yell because

and then she

couldn't hear anything.

Rachel, does historical society have a tent at airfare too? No.

No. No.

Too busy getting ready for for the good day.

Well, she came she saw where where we were for the the the airfare, and she just left.

How many

Right? It just said people came by when and they tried to ask questions. It just

What? I'm

listening. Know. You know.

Sure. Might as well.

I don't think the town has a way to fold.

I don't think that

to be folded.

There's no full automatic folder?

I've had them in fold things before, so I'm not aware of a.

Thankfully, nothing has to be folded at this point.

Yeah. Well, we do

have the ability to meter letters, but I don't I don't know if I should promise that. I don't know if that's like a No.

Or if

there's a limit on, you know, the number we could send out without.

Gotcha.

But how would you do we have the post office boxes for all of the

Yes. I

do. Tell them. You do?

But I have to verify that residents are all the same.

Well, I'm sure they aren't.

Yeah. We I mean, I can pull pull the county at well well, county assessor data.

Matt. Because I've got the house address linked to this post office box.

As soon as someone moves, that changes.

Yeah. And then so but, yes, I have a list that's probably four or five years old. Okay. I can

You should know if you want it where they get their water bills is what I

Because

a lot of people in Old Town don't have their PO box at the tax assessor. But I guarantee you, they're getting their water bill. So go talk to whoever in there and

Yeah.

She'll have that.

So, also, if you didn't know, the the Old Town residents don't get mail at their residence. They have to have a post office box.

I didn't know that. Yes.

Yeah. So don't park. You get the train.

Stop with

me. Can I say

that a little louder for the other You

can just walk down there?

Oh, sure.

Yeah. It's only three blocks.

You'd be cat neighbors. I'll just tell them. I'll start to let them. It's fine. You can just walk to get your mail.

She lives on the brakes. So

Don't worry about it. Nobody ever parks at the post office that isn't supposed to.

Ever. Ever. They just park in it. Yeah. Literally. Literally.

I would probably do again, if I can send it to the town, I probably will. Just like a small print order of I know we're talking about on bulletins, like, just having something put up kind of in the area down here. Some there's a couple restaurants and buildings that have the library. You can just put one of those built in. So the QR codes, I was going to get laminated just because I wanted those to feel a little bit more Sturdy. Sturdy and substantial. Do you guys laminate

or no? I have a level of laminate.

I don't think I can check with communications,

but I haven't

personally seen.

Think Communications came out to 11:17. Okay. I think.

Relay a day?

I think.

If not, it's I'm just

gonna send you my order. Let's see what comes after. Yeah. It's called Harry's now. That's

I have a

small ice cream lemonade. So it's better to so much better.

It was French shop. I

actually think I have a whole bunch of these somewhere in my kit of stuff, but I was gonna get we and we had talked about doing some, like, dot stickers for, you know, if you if your property was represented, just doing kinda like a quick vote that way if you were interested. I don't know if we still wanted to do that, but it is kind of a fun visual way to get people involved in that moment. Because what I was saying for the phone posters was probably to do one of the whole downtown, old town area. Do a a big print of the the flyer, so that people could just look at it. And then I was trying to think if there was something else that I'm missing or if there's anything else people thought would be necessary.

At this point, I don't I don't wanna inundate them right now.

I'm just saying in our the big phone poster.

Yeah. The the big phone poster, and then if they want one to take with them.

They can.

Yeah.

But that would be perfect to say.

I like the idea of the dot survey.

Yeah. I think it's fun.

Yeah. It's interactive. It's visual. Right.

And then if people wanna tell us more, they can go to the QR survey and go from there. The only thing that's a little better about the QR survey is getting their actual

information.

And then stickers, I I apologize. I didn't have an opportunity to connect with the the gals at, the town. But sorry. If we wanted to print any sort of stickers, we can do about 500 for a dollar. I'm not sure. A 100 is what I'm saying. Sorry. I'm I'm No. Which are fun, though. People like stickers. And it's it's stickers. I know. Right?

But that's not that's not specific to the historical preservation work. That's my point with the tent is, like, it was yeah. I like I like them. But all Not specific to h pack.

It all predates me. So Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, I mean, if we want, like, some h pack stickers or something that's, like, specific to us, I know the the ones that I had shown you guys previously are

I think we talked about, like, a slogan. It was it was

keeping old town old. Yeah. And that we needed to run that by the town, and I just am bad and thinking. But it was this.

I don't think anybody's gonna want an h pass sticker. I mean, maybe

I agree with you.

But they might like something with a cool plug in.

I do like the one on the left. Keep Old Town Eyrie old, established, historic district. It tells them what it is. Mhmm.

I like the idea of it. I don't know if I like the slogan. I like it. That's alright.

And she's an old town resident.

Agree with me. Yeah.

Because there was a lot of chatter when they started calling it downtown instead of Old Town. A lot of residents were not pleased because it's Old Town.

Keep Old Town vintage. But that doesn't that's not that is

not Vintage is $19.77 ish for now, not two seconds.

Oh, I don't know.

That is?

Yeah. There's the old tab.

Oh, there it is.

Did you go? Yeah.

I couldn't find it.

They make it really reach.

Way down there. Yeah. So it's like, you're you're so close. I could see your hand getting closer. You gotta go up.

You guys don't don't you guys don't know what it's like to have your feet dangling here. So

Okay.

Hey, Laura. Thank you.

Of course. I well, I feel like I have one other question with this. Or I guess, I'll I'll run I don't know. Do we wanna, like, have a vote if we like that left to for me to present to the town?

Or

Old town. Small town.

I like the one on the left better, but I don't know if we should put Historic District on it quite yet. That feels a little ahead of the ball. But I like the colors on the left, and I like the font, and I like the look of it.

I mean, it's easy just to remove. Mhmm.

I I would like to hear what, like, marketing or whatever. Yeah. No. I think it's something

I would say one I should move.

I I would say their ideas

to them and say if that's the one from, like, a design standpoint we're leaning towards. And then, of course, we would see if we can use the right cottonwood. That's just a generic.

Right. Yeah. The Eerie tree that's not in Eerie.

And I

This one

Historically, I I know there are some there I I'm I am open to whatever. I know there's some concerns with that that slogan. And but we can see what else they have to offer if they feel okay with it. Or

I mean, I really like keep old town old because there's too much new stuff going in.

I think that's the concern.

I I I like the idea of keeping old town significant or valued or

relevant? You're looking at old town residents that says she likes the word old. That's right.

Put it on the survey.

Put it on the survey.

Alright. Yeah.

Done. Alright. Well, I will I will just clarify. I have their information. It just didn't happen.

So Maybe they do both get run by them. Like, Anil just made a good point. He said the one on the right would look really great on a T shirt.

Mhmm.

The one

on the left, I think, would be great on a sticker. Mhmm. So maybe we see what the town says and get some feedback.

No problem. Yeah. I'll try to get that sooner rather than later. But, I mean, nowadays, you can still get stickers, like, really fast.

Yeah.

These are the small town. Oh,

I had this was my one other question. I know I'm taking more time than we need. My my other thought with all of this is to make sure that we have proper liaisons, both in the business sector and the private residents. And so if there's anyone anyone can think of, I know there was Lisa Cunningham can try to get her information to see if she wants to be someone who can be like a liaison to Old Town and someone who can talk to her fellow neighbors or whatever to try to get this going. I know someone like Lindsay, whose last name? Is it Joan Ladilak Lane, and she's like, can't think of me. What's what name?

Tracy's still there, but Tracy Colburn's still there. She's thinking about moving.

But I just thought it would be a good idea to have some people who are kind of in our back pocket who are already

On board.

On board, and that they can then reach out to I mean, Lindsay's so plugged in. It's crazy. She just yesterday or two days ago did a walk down the Old Town neighborhood. It was pointing out all her favorite historic properties. I think she would be interested in this. But I'm just saying I I think reaching out to those people. And if anyone has any ideas of those kind of people, let me know.

It might be good to have, like, recommendations, like, printed out already with their name if they're well known as a recommendation.

Oh, you're saying, like, as, like, a quote or something? Yeah.

Gotcha.

People who've already signed. Yeah.

Question. Does the council full council know what we're doing, planning process? Like, just feels like we're an advisory board. Mhmm. Advise for plan. Right. I mean, it seems like we're picking up steam, but I'm just like, is is there I believe every member knows. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. That's why we breached the subject to them, and and and we got the go ahead to go forward.

Okay. So yeah.

So and that's why I'm gonna reupdate them again. Yep. Keep it perfect. So, no, we're not doing anything without the council knowing.

Okay. That was fine.

The board presented to the council once. Now we are going as per that, and now we'll do one more update.

Okay. Oh, we kind of presented. We didn't really present.

Yeah. But at least you mentioned it.

Yeah. But I would like to see their feedback on next is it September 9 September 9. That we will give our report.

Yeah. You're all welcome to you're all welcome to to attend.

And let them know. Just bring your

toothpicks. We

can always I mean, obviously, council agenda is super packed, but we could always look for, you know, like, a if we wanted a specific time slot on a council agenda to talk specifically about the historic district, I'm sure we could look for, like, a ten, fifteen minute. Yeah. There was General discussion item. Mhmm.

Yeah. We're not there yet. I figure in probably six months to a year, we will be. Yeah. Yeah. So because now we're at the point where now we're getting the town involved. Right? And we're getting feedback from the town. And if we get positive feedback, then it's time to go for the board and say, this is what we wanna do. Right? Yeah. Recommend. Yeah.

Yes. You recommend.

Yeah. Yeah. So Moving forward. Because we're not ready to we we we don't have enough detailed information yet to be able to make a intelligent presentation to them yet.

But I will say that I updated the the survey like you suggested, just kinda like a short shorter. And then at the bottom, it says if you're interested in answering more questions, it takes you to another page. If you're not, then it just takes you to the final page of getting your your details, your personal info. So yeah. So that's been updated.

And then what was yeah. I guess, I I was gonna, I have an email dropped in and ready to go to the local businesses to see if they'd be willing to donate anything to our whatever you call it. Our drawing for a giveaway prize.

No. So perfectly worded. Yeah.

And have a ravel. Yeah.

I love that so much.

Yeah.

So carefully worded. Right? Must know

confused with a raffle. Yeah.

Alright. And I'm done. I'm I'm done. I'm done.

Laura, thank you. And now for those who you weren't here, Alex. Cesar stepped up to help her. Yes. So those Cesar and Laura are working together. This is, as you can tell, is a huge project. Yeah. And what we're trying to do is stop three store buildings in downtown. Oh, you know,

my address will kinda send you Yeah. Other things that we can see.

Okay. So

No. What what we're trying to do is perhaps build the historic district in Downtown 3.

Yeah. We

don't know you're technically working.

Yeah. So, legally, the board itself has no legal power. We're an advisory board to the town council. Right. And whatever we recommend, they can override. But normally, what we recommend, they're they're already on board with it because these guys are here. Mhmm. So that's what they're here for.

Got it.

Because they can say, you can't do that. It'll never pass the council. You know? Okay. Planning report.

I just wanna give a quick update. We so council, I guess, town administration are looking to maybe rework some of our advisory board code language, and I don't know that there's any big things to inform you about. It may talk specifically about timing for appointments. Mhmm. Sort of terms. But, also, you know, HPAD, we tend to have seats that open up that we need to fill anyways, so that sort of happens ad hoc. Mhmm. Not on that same schedule. So Yeah. I don't know that it's that big of a deal for this board.

I am also just gonna see if I have an opportunity to suggest some other changes. There's

a couple

things under the current code that are a bit vague, and so I'm gonna take a look at it, but I just wanna give you a heads up.

Okay.

So so no no significant changes. Mostly just a reorganization, I think. Okay.

You're not leaving us, are you?

No.

You know, when he just got assigned, he got he had to pick up from nothing. And now we don't I don't wanna see that. True. Okay. Thanks, Harry.

Nothing else.

Yeah. Hey. I talked to Natalie yesterday, Laura, and she's says she's puts out stuff, and so she'd be willing to help us out if we send her anything.

I think with now that we're in correspondence with the like, in sorry. In conjunction with this, we should post something. Either, like, see if we can do something before Eerie Biscuit Day and say, hey. Come check out our booth. We're gonna have this happening. Or afterwards, we have this happening if you'd missed us or maybe both.

I think

both and take the survey.

Yeah. Right. Exactly. To to to preempt the survey.

Might we consider a booth at the farmers market? Like, the last

The you know, we we tried to do it.

Yeah. I remember.

Yeah. And

But we're trying to meet old town residents.

Yeah. But we didn't get any business.

We don't want business. We just wanna talk to people.

Yeah. Well, we didn't get any people. People

But that it's a new new year.

Unless we play music or something, people are not gonna come over.

We have a giveaway. I'll Yeah. Giveaway. Right? I'll dress up like a prairie lady. What? See?

I used to dress up.

I used

to dress up. Yeah. They're People

will come visit him. I have

a bonnet and an apron. I'll I'll

Yeah. I know.

Here's candy. You think I'm gonna it? Stickers.

I'll bring my baby.

Yeah. See? Yeah. I'm just saying it's another way to talk to people.

Yeah. Might not.

Yeah. We're pretty much over the season now.

Once it goes through

the end through September, I think.

Yeah. Through September. How much did boost cost? Do you know? $6.06 60? Mhmm. I looked a long time ago, but I couldn't remember. I believe that.

Yeah. We we tried this, like, two, three years ago, and it was a it was a abject failure.

We're so much cooler now.

Yeah. Right? Yeah.

We're gonna have all of our new Baby outbreak Yes.

Exactly. September 18. There we go. See?

Three weeks.

That's the Thursday before Biscuit Day. Day.

So does the town usually have a booth there

in Farmers Market?

Yeah. Can we share?

Oh oh, at the Farmers Market? And I don't think the town has a booth.

I saw David, it's a review.

Wait a minute. Yeah. What?

I can't remember a thing. Olsen. David, Robert, James. Who? Just few. Me then. Josh.

Oh my god.

Yeah. Hello.

So do

you. I didn't. Don't worry.

We got there. Josh has

I forgot. Yeah. He he was just at the

It's John.

I work with him. He's a long our long range planner, so he does more of the visioning, and he's working on the comp plan, and now he's working on some actually, some sort of old town old town related stuff.

But Maybe we could share his booth?

Maybe. I don't know if he's going back.

Oh. Well, booth is there every week.

I know. Yeah. So Maybe if he's going back, we could share.

Thanks, guys. Okay. Phase three. What I asked is when this got sent out that please review them and be prepared to recommend three. So I figured the best way to do it was there is eight of them. And if we go down to eight companies, then we can show hands of who we recommend. And, hopefully, we have never gotten this many before ever. This is we're begging for three normally. So to get eight is quite

I was pretty surprised.

Yeah.

Can I have a quick oh, I tried to review these, and I'll be honest? I didn't feel equipped to know when I was reviewing what I was looking for that would that would differentiate one over the other. I I just don't feel like I understand the process well enough.

Well, you you know, it's architectural. Yeah. It's architectural history is really what it is. And so all these organizations are certified to provide by the state to do this.

Mhmm.

Okay? And so what you are what you are looking for and what I was looking for is maybe who their staff was, what their company was. And the first one was broadband and a bunch of PhDs. So that told me one right there that they were gonna be expensive. Right?

So and then one of the companies and the billing summaries that the fee was deliberately held back from us. So but one of them said 65 to a $120. So at two hundred and twenty hours, so that came out to $25,000. But Harry, I had sent you a question. I don't know if we ever got an answer. Four of these companies are out of state. All

That's why I was confused.

And so It And do we have to pay travel and travel fees?

I think we would need to pay travel fees. And it so so there is a each of these companies submitted in, like, sort of, like, in a separate envelope, their budget proposal. But for this first stage, at least according to Chris, who I was working with here at the town to go through this RFP process, the best practice is sort of to do a budget blind shortlist just to decide, like, whose proposal meets all the or or whose proposals are most compelling to get a shortlist and then open the fee after that. And I know one of the critiques we had last year, I guess, was that we went with the cheapest option. Yeah.

We went with the lowest bidder, but they were the best company.

Yeah.

But but and I personally selected a couple couple of the companies because they already are doing business with Erie, so we don't have to get a vendor agreement.

Sure.

We already have one.

And they're familiar with

Yeah. So To

some extent.

And one of the companies is working actually in this building or did in Schofield. So

What company is that?

That was ERO. And they It's at the top of my Yeah. So they already done business. There was another one that had one too. I don't remember it. But I had a piece of paper with my three companies, and I forgot it. So but so but yeah. By reading by reading all their they all say they can do it. They all say this and that. So it comes down to basically, so as I read the resumes, as I was going through them and I saw, like, broadband had PhD, PhD, PhD, and the more education you have, the more expensive it gets.

So that's why I was gonna cross them off. They sounded like the best qualified, but overly expensive.

But we didn't know that they were expensive.

Right? We don't know. It just sounded that way. The same though. So

I mean, you also are paying for expertise. Right?

Yes.

If that is important and what we need here. I I just I don't know. I think that's what I'm saying. I don't know exactly what that work what the out product looks like.

So Well

not familiar with this process.

And so, basically, they have deliverables that they have to meet. So in essence, when you're talking about this, right, we pay for labor. And 80% of that labor or 70% of that labor is research hours.

Yeah.

And then somebody has to actually walk the pavement, go take your pictures of all structures on the property. Right? And then make an assessment at that point. And what we're asking them to do is professionally, is it or is it not eligible for landmarking?

Right. Well, then, I mean, I would agree with you that if they're local and they have any idea of ERD Yeah. Starting off not having to pay as much because they're, hopefully, at least have a minimal understanding of the Mhmm. Area they're in.

So when when I saw those two companies had relationship with Erie already, you know, not having to get a vendor agreement that saves time. Yeah. It really gets paperwork has to be sent, and then they have to produce insurance and all that other stuff. So

And and, yeah, I do think that each of these companies will build in or has built into their budget. Although, we haven't seen the budgets, but has built in travel cost presumably at That's one of

the questions I I asked because broadband on although they really sounded the most professional, they were out of Missouri, I think, or something like that.

Castle Rock on here.

But they had an office in Castle Rock.

Oh, Castle Point. Yeah. But they're common? Yeah. They're doing work in Denver.

There's one that's headquartered in Durango.

That's

But they're in Colorado Springs. So yeah. Colorado Springs. Lakewood. And Stantec sent another one, but we didn't choose them before.

Oh, that's right. I knew I knew that name.

Yeah.

That's why.

Okay. Alright. So I don't have the list in front of me. I'm sorry. Do you? Broad Broad yeah. Broadbent's the first. Right?

Yes. Brad Ben I I can read it off or, like Yeah.

Pull up my screen too.

So what we're what we're gonna do, if you've had a chance, we're gonna go down through the list. And if there's somebody that you think that you want, then raise raise your hand, and it's it's gonna come down to who gets the most votes.

Am I missing something off the Stantec version of the TVs.

Yeah. Yeah. It's Stantec was they were one of the three that bid before, Deandrea, and we didn't select them. Okay. Because they wanted $40,000. Yeah.

I did. So why don't we know the cost?

Because we're supposed to be evaluating solely on the quality of their proposal k. Not on

Sounds like health insurance.

Guess. Can

you explain the process more?

Yeah. So so we did let's see. Sorry. Once again, at multitasking.