Historic Preservation Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

I'm sorry. Today is 03/23/2026, and I am calling the Erie Historic Preservation Advisory Board meeting to order. Okay. Pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

And

Madam secretary, roll call, please.

Mike Springer?

Here.

Deandrea Arts? Here. Cesar Jimenez?

Here.

Rachel Folcher? Here. Melanie Folher? Here. I also see council member O'Connor and Harry Brevin.

And you'll can't if not gonna make it tonight, he text me. Okay.

K. We have five. We have a quorum. Okay? The agenda that was sent out on Friday did not contain the applications. They're here today. So

hopefully, some of you they were linked, but they weren't added as separate attachments. I don't know.

They were some of you passed agenda.

Yeah. Oh, they were linked. Yeah. Yeah.

So I didn't read them. So are those a motion, please?

I move to approve the agenda.

Second.

Oh, second.

Or are you gonna pull that from the agenda?

What? If not everyone reviewed them?

Yeah.

They're on the public agenda that we all were emailed. Sure.

Mhmm. Do

you yeah. What do you wanna do, Mike? Do you wanna we can do them in meetings? Or

Yeah. Because not

I read

I didn't read them. Did everybody else read them?

I did not.

Okay. So we don't have enough people read them.

Okay. Well, then does that mean we can't vote on them?

Review.

Well, you can read it real real quick if you want.

Well, I Melanie.

Yeah. The only thing different that's from what I sent out Friday is the application. So that's the only thing different. So the agenda, technically, as written is fine. Yeah. It's just the applications which I got from which I got from the town clerk's email was we wouldn't see them till tonight anyway.

But her email went out before yours did.

Yeah. She sent it actually, Monday, and then, again, Tuesday, think, last week. But they were linked into there. So I don't know. I don't know what to do because if we push it to next month, I don't know if that gives us

I think we're

time. To review them tonight.

I think we could

Which time you review the applicants?

Yes. Laura did. Because

I put out on my on my meeting packet that we wouldn't see them till tonight. That's what I put out on the meeting packet because I hadn't seen them.

So We can

Or I can recuse myself, and you guys make the decision. While three of us are up, we'll have anybody shot

that's true. I can also pull it up on or pull each of them up on the screen. I know that's

not really so Yeah. Though. Do we

Yeah. There's four, but three of you are applying. So, technically, there's only one.

Unless unless some of us

Don't wanna do it again.

But unless yeah. I mean, we're

all But you wouldn't have

We don't have to make the nominations as a whole. We can make we can make nominations individually.

Because we we need to submit four. Right. K? So the three of you wouldn't have applied if you didn't wanna continue.

Correct.

So so we got Alex, Deandrea, and Rachel. And

Well, we we technically need to approve the agenda or not.

Be Yeah.

Before we proceed.

Yeah. Well, I've I've read it. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Okay. It's been it's been moved and seconded. So

Yeah. Deandrea moved. And Actually,

I need

Yeah. Melanie oh, I'm sorry. Start over. Melanie mentioned and Rachel seconded that we approve the agenda that we have with us in front of us. All in favor?

Aye.

That's approved unanimously. Did everybody had an opportunity to read the minutes?

You Yes. I moved to Yeah. I moved to accept the minutes.

Second? Second. Okay. We got Deandrea has moved, and Caesar has seconded that we accept the minutes as written. All in favor?

Aye. Aye.

Aye. It's unanimous. Okay. And no public comment? Alright. Now since the website said that there was actually four openings. Right? It's kinda misleading. But, technically, since Alex, D'Andrea, and Rachel would not have applied if they didn't wanna be, So, that's three. So we have to submit four, maybe five, give an order on and one person may decide they don't want it. Okay?

Yeah. I'll I'll read a little bit that I got from Michelle. So Mhmm. So, yeah, she said, you know, technically, it's it's four openings. She did say it's best if we're discussing the applications of people in the room that they leave the room while we discuss them just to avoid the appearance of favoritism. But then, yeah, in terms of the ranking, so what we'll wanna do is have a top four. And then of the remaining ones, if we could order those or at least provide one alternate. Yeah. Because as you said, I think on on occasion, it's happened where

Some people apply, but they didn't accept.

They get the nod and then decide they don't actually wanna do it. So it's

It has happened. Or they applied for two boards. Yeah. Sure. And then and I don't know if they applied for the planning board or commission because they always get first choice.

Well, they I know at least two or three people on this list applied for more than one board. So

And they list, like, what technically, the if this is, like, first or second, but I don't know how you determine that to some extent. Said first on each one.

There's not something that's preventing you from

because remember one year, we had nine nine applications, and the planning was needed too. Mhmm. So we had to put one one through nine, and I lost one because they got sucked up by planning. And they have for they they get first choice, so we had to put one through nine.

Did you commissioner O'Connor, did you have any input on on the process?

So Process? When Treeboard did it, I sat there and just went around the room

and noted who each member picked. Okay.

And then so then I could that way, the the board could focus on the discussion, and I could sit there and just take the ranking of

Mhmm. The

choices. I

did. If it would be helpful, I did print out a little sheet where you could if you wanted to sort of list your top four and then the ranking of ultimates. Okay.

Well, I I

And, actually, I can pull them all I don't

know if we could, like, nominate incumbents and then get a ranking. I don't know. That's was thinking. Well, the the Like Or unless she'll choose not to nominate me, which is fine. Yeah. I think. Well, it's Melanie. Yeah. It won't hurt my feelings.

I wanted to bring up that I don't know that I'm going to be continuing on, so that might change this conversation a bit. I don't know that I have the time. I'm barely making it here. Yeah. And just the the things that I'm finding myself committing to, I'm I'm not always completing. And so I just want to bring that, probably changes and also potentially moving. And so there's there's, like, a whole list of things that make me probably not great to

Well, let me let me say it would be it would be a huge loss to lose you, but we understand completely. I'm kind of in the same position.

It's so far.

I so don't wanna leave Erie, but the rest of the family is not tied to Erie. So

It's different.

Yeah.

I I just I feel like it's a better decision to make that for me personally now while you guys are having to vote as opposed to maybe two months from now when you have to go back through all this again?

Well, because elections would be in April or no. Elections are we would have to do tonight. Right. So if if you're stepping down Yes. Okay. And that that will be in

stepping down? Or Yes. I am I am I am

formally to whatever whatever language.

I will need to see them because I I just

pop is an alternate situation.

Oh, I could read it on my phone.

And they can see that Yeah.

They would see that we would have breakfast.

I think that's right.

You're not up for

Right. I know I'm not reappointment, but I suppose if Yeah.

That that would aren't

part of this conversation, rather you guys have someone that you're already in discussions than Mhmm.

That would have to be a separate unfortunately, that would have to be a separate process. Process.

Okay. Yeah. Well, if I have to come to one more meeting. Well, Melanie, have to be for another time. Anyway. Okay.

I mean, I just look dread. Like a dread. No. Not at all.

But if I I think it makes more sense to have that as a part of this conversation than the following month. Then surprise. Right. And suddenly, we don't Exactly. That makes sense.

And I think hopeful I'm not yeah. I guess to be honest, I'm not sure whether we would need to reappoint as a I think you do.

You do behind. Separate? Okay.

But I think

get appointed to fulfill the end of her turn.

True. True. True. Okay.

Because that happened since Rachel and I Yeah.

Joined. That's what happened with Alex. Yeah.

That's right.

That's why Alex is only is already up for reappointment.

Okay. We

done. Oh, that's

Oh, you did your thing, Heather.

Oh, nice. Okay. Ballot? I mean, I'm prepared. Thanks

to you.

So I told you I had both.

Let's see.

No. I just made it. You just gave me the link. Yes.

Got Alex, of course, Casey. Yeah. I don't up on screen.

See, I don't think I ever got it.

It came from Kelsey this time. It was that one. Oh, this?

Yeah. Oh, that's why I probably never

But it's the yeah. Because Michelle was out of town. So

You wanna review these on an iPad?

We could also I've got it up on screen here too, but thank you, though. That yes.

If you need it, please the phone.

Please take the town iPad and use it. K.

So looks like she did

applying for more than one.

Apply for multiple that says this was her first choice. I can easily go to

yeah.

And take your time too because I think Michelle said at least one of the other boards took, like, two hours to do this. So

Oh, really? Yeah. It wasn't the tree board.

Yeah. Probably sustainability. I think

The only issue I have is she applied to more than one. There's they're almost all of them are like that.

How do how do we know? We don't know? Like, others already get picked?

We don't know. I don't think we know. None of these were on the tree board,

so I can tell you that.

That's one board.

So they must the clerk's office must be winnowing the list, if people get selected for

Yeah.

For the month.

I was reading her her thing. Yeah. I was reading that. Talent acquisition.

It's usually when someone like like a headhunter. So, like, when there's an opening in a in a job.

They go find, like, a suitable candidate and work with DHL five.

Okay. I'm done with that page. Okay. Okay. Okay. Who's the next one?

Next one, what we got? Ian McKnight. Which one is this one? This is Ian McKnight.

Oh,

Ian Knight or Tanya Knight? Ian. Ian. Okay. Yep. Yep. Alright. Looks like

Oh, they're the husband wife real estate team. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, wait. What's with these okay. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. Continue.

Uh-oh. Looks like also a Colorado native and a retired command sergeant major. She would outrank guys. She would outrank me.

Not here.

So Tanya

was picked as one of the applicants for planning commission.

Okay. But that she has to be one of six going for

receipts.

And planning always has first choice. Yeah. That's why we have to put

Yeah.

It in the list because only one of them could get sucked up. True.

That's good to know, though. This one is Ian, though, I think.

Gary? Yeah. So he would okay.

I mean, if you like her, you should pick her.

Yeah. But I'm just saying her. 50 Select another one. Yeah.

I was thinking you have a backup.

Have a backup to the backup.

Okay. I like his, if I were appointed statement. K. That's good. Mhmm. Encouraging design that falls in line with everything else we have.

So this this resume, I don't know if you wanna look at that. K.

Alright. Who's next?

Next, we have Kelsey Bebo or Bibbo.

Bibbo? Bibbo? Have no idea. Mhmm. Bibbo?

It's true. There's three.

Five o phonetically, but

Oh, another HR person?

Yes.

Yeah. She's a masters.

Yeah. But did you see the tie her title?

Yeah. Her title has historic in it. Right.

Yeah. That's That was Cultural and historic oh.

You opened her resume. It's quite impressive. All the illogical. K.

Also, it looks like she she this is the only board she applied for.

Yeah. She's my top my top choice. My top from the income. Mine too. Yeah. Yeah.

Sounds like a lot of extremely relevant. Very

high skill set in archaeology as well.

I see. So that development could proceed without mitigation of adverse impacts to archaeological resources. Oh. Wouldn't that be nice?

So cool.

That means follow the rules. Man, that's what it means.

Perfection.

You can also looks like she has experience with CLG grants. So Yeah. That would be helpful.

Yeah. Very

Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. She's worked with other municipalities in Weld County.

She would be a good choice. Okay. How do you oh, master's in archaeology. That's pretty cool. So she's a bone counter.

What?

Just laughing at your comments. Yeah. They came anywhere. Okay. Sorry. Who's that? Oh, we don't yeah.

We don't need to see that one. Oh,

here's Tanya. Tanya McKnight. Well, I

know she's a realtor in town as well.

Job title, global project management director. What is your highest level education? High school. I don't think that listed.

Don't accept it anymore. Accept it. And she's been up like the

This was Planning commission. Her second choice. Maybe planning commission was her first choice. Okay.

Planning was her first choice?

Just guessing.

Yeah.

Thank you, You're welcome. I'll take your breath. Yes. It makes you need kind from Chris Hart and his costume card.

Thank you. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. That

sounds more like a planning resume.

It doesn't it doesn't mention

And since she's talking about construction. Nope. Nope.

She actually went to Purdue architectural studies.

No.

And then Yeah. High school diploma.

That's I saw that when it was in the planning Oh, application too. So I

Submit an answer.

Yeah.

And I

This is a drop down.

She may not have finished. Did she get her degree from Purdue?

It must

I didn't ask the question.

We didn't actually interview. Yeah. Mine was in I got mine from Phoenix University of Phoenix in business management.

That's in her bed. But I remember being confused by that. Yeah.

Okay. We've have that one. We've read that one. And we've read Tanya's.

Do we have discussion before we, like, officially put this through for when we

I think once Yeah. Like the three of us

to leave right now? Well, no. Not necessary.

I think once might

It might be good Yeah. For Michelle's sake to

Yep. K. Okay. Bye. Bye. Yeah. Look at my this ain't look at my Welcome.

Come and grab you guys one. Thank you for doing it.

Yeah. She's also my realtor. She's done good.

We have to shop for

So Thanks, Lisa.

So with Alex, Rachel, and Deandrea notwithstanding, I would want to know how you would. So if we got one, two, three, then we need to choose a four, but we need to choose a four, five, and six because somebody's gonna get sucked up by planning. Think But

you don't know that it's six app with a Reposition. Angie

But Kelsey But some of these have all like, Casey did for both. Ian and Tanya did for both. Okay.

A good one. Kelsey

And I'm thinking with Tanya's construction or degree or background, she she'll be great for planning.

And And her me. Yeah.

Yeah. She didn't Right? For any other So or things like that one. Yeah.

No. Yeah. You you can't, but that would be see. Yeah. That's what I would do.

I think you guys should make the choices that you want. Exactly. Because

I think before I assume that everybody's on board with really recommending the three that are reapplying, or is everybody okay with that? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Just wanted to give everyone a chance.

Yeah. So Okay. I mean, if they have the experience, they know what we're doing Right. It would be counterproductive. Do not ask them to re to return.

I agree. I just wanted to make sure.

And if I can use that since it'll be in the in the recording, to me, it would be counterproductive not to reinstate them.

I agree. I think we're good.

Okay. And then

bring them in for the Yeah. And then killers

to come back. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what

I was saying.

I think

this is

silly to have a conversation with these other ones.

Should we vote before they come back in? I think

they Yeah. You probably should.

Yeah. Should we? Should have them come back in?

No. No. Have them have them vote on the three. So make that official.

Yeah.

Yeah. Let's just let it just disclose that the door wide

open. We're so

I got him slanted.

It's so important to remember, really. It's important. Hey.

If it's if we and we and we actually have a quorum to vote. So Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So we need a motion and a second

I motion. I motion that we, submit as a recommendation for positions one, two, and three, Deandrea, Alex, and Rachel. Okay. In that order, Deandrea, Alex, Rachel, just because that's how I listed them.

Okay.

It is our one, two,

and three choice.

Second that motion. Alright.

K. It has have been moved by Melanie and seconded by Cesar that we recommend or that we recommend retaining

Yep.

Deandrea, Alex Wicks, and Rachel Folger as board members. Yeah. We accept their applications and retain them on the board. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Unanimous. Now they can come back in. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's we have some bad days.

Happy stuff. We have

some wait. We have some bad news. You've been low you've been accepted.

Yeah. Reappointed. Recommended to reappoint.

Uh-oh. There was an office. This is too good. Too good.

Hey. We have some bad news.

Those couches out there were more comfortable.

Yeah. Guys all got reappointed. Yeah. So

then we, yeah, we decided to we will recommend reappoint you three and including us. We haven't decided another one. So

Okay. So at this point, what I would like to take Nominate. Councilman O'Connor's

I actually

forgot your first name.

Where's your name tag? Yeah.

I saw

it somewhere.

So it's a so with Brian, I I need you to write down four, five, and six.

Okay.

About what we recommend, not recommend. So people don't have to necessarily have something written down yet. You can say why we think someone should be four, why we think someone

Well, that's that's why I recommend 4, five, and six, and then we go around discuss that.

Well, I don't think you have to write it down yet if you're not feeling like you know the order you want people in.

I think it's unanimous that we all want Kelsey as

a number four. Yep.

That's Yes.

Would be my presumption.

Okay. So Kelsey would be four.

Yeah. Are you making a nomination?

I am. I move that we nominate Kelsey Bebo, Baibow

I second.

As our fourth choice. Perfect.

So it's been moved and seconded that we submit Kelsey Bebo as our number four choice. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Okay. So she's number four. Now we need a number five. Knowing that, I believe all three of the rest of them applied to planning, Casey didn't, I thought they all applied for at more than one board.

They did. They did. So we don't know for sure what else they applied for, but they did all apply for some other or they all applied for multiple.

In in my opinion, and it's just my statement, planning missus McKnight, Tanya, since she's in construction, should be a choice for planning. But I don't know that for sure. But because of that, I would make her six or seven because I don't think she's gonna be around.

She was nominated for the tree board? Or

No. She wasn't. I don't remember any of these from them.

Okay. I'm

She also was the one that said Sorry. This was her second choice.

This was her second choice?

Yeah. So the other two, Ian and Casey, applied for other boards, but said this was the first choice.

Well, that

So that's a different

That seals the deal right there to me.

Lauren, that's something to say.

Not sure you think Tony should be fit or any, by any means, but I don't think we should play chess. I think we just pick our top three people and let the chips fall where they may because we don't know where they're gonna go. So if we don't Yeah. Know, if if I'm just saying if it

might So we don't have to say who the top people are. Right. We just We just have to write it down. Here.

One, two, and three. So these people are not being nominated. This is just an a just in case scenario.

Yeah. Because we're we already have four that we wanna nominate.

That's done.

So now we have to select alternates.

Right. And I'm just saying we put those to what we think is the best, not play chess with

Mhmm.

Planning tree board or

Agreed.

Or whatever.

Like, we

just do what we like. I would recommend just out of from reading these, Casey would be nice because she lives in Old Town, and I think there's a benefit to having people who live in Old Town based on the work we're doing. And then Tanya and then Ian, that's just my alternate numbers or way I went, but I think having more Old Town people is a benefit. Personal.

I would second that motion.

Although that's not a motion. Right? She kind of motioned.

She made it motion.

She did it. She just moved in her hand.

What I hand. What I what I heard and

Blessed him.

And I believe we had a general consensus. We actually have to vote, but a general consensus that we make Casey number five, Tanya number six, and Ian number seven. We

This isn't something we vote on, though.

Not We'd see No. Well, probably should just

I guess, probably should. The life. But but, yeah, if we can keep discussing it too if other people have different orders of sort of a Well,

I had a look six seven.

I did have Casey as my number five.

Me too.

But And so did I.

To switch around.

We can discuss that then. Yeah. Why we think Tanya over Ian?

Well, I I put Tanya at the last because of other

Well and I I had Ian at number six and Tanya at seven because Ian h PAB was his first choice, not his second choice.

Oh.

And Tanya, we were his we were her second choice. Yes.

That's how I have

So all things being equal, right, I would wanna go with somebody where we were first choice, not second choice.

I guess I was looking at that architecture degree and just a little bit more of her background, seeing, like, it was more involved in just the way she answered the questions just seemed more cohesive, whereas where do

No. I I I liked her her answers. I don't know what other board she applied for, but I would accept I wouldn't be surprised if it was planning. Who? For Tanya. She did. She did. I I

He already said that. What? He already said that.

Planning was her first choice? I think it was her

well, it had to be, I think.

Yep. With her with her construction background. Yeah. That's why I think that they're gonna pick three that she would get selected. And planning always has first choice.

What can you give me my paperback so I can read the back of it?

So

It she

Like your Erie hat.

Got it

here. It should it should after reviewing this discussion, the board should rank all applicants one through four. The first four will fill the vacant seat, which we've already taken

care of.

Please send your rankings to M Crawford once received the clerk will in prayer of the resolution that will go to council on April 28. But aren't we supposed to create that resolution tonight?

Well, Michelle will create the actual

This seems This process seems like it's an afterthought. Like, I I I I'm pretty sure this process is not in the bylaws of Erie. So it may might be a great idea, but I don't think it's

It's it's on

that's something the board

needs to take up?

It's unusual. It is new. I think we're working on it.

Legally, we I'm not a I'm not a lawyer, but I think legally, we submit our four, and then we we give Michelle our recommendations. I think anything above that is not legally binding.

I I think that's okay. I think I think we've made our motions and made our formal recommendation.

I don't think you're in.

The only thing that's confusing is the board should rank all the applicants one through seven. The first four will fill the four

This isn't I know I know the town of Erie has to do this when they're choosing what is it? Like, somebody to do work for the town.

Mhmm.

So Mhmm. For contracts. Yeah. But that's not what this is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It might

make it easier on the clerk, but that's not what

this only for the purpose of if if Kelsey, the fourth one, decides she doesn't wanna do it We have to have an alternate person if the next person then is actually planning commission Yeah.

Right.

We need to have, like, multiple backups. That's the thought.

But What if all of those other backups go to other boards? Then we have to start all over

start all over again?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Well shouldn't have for After We still After Laura Then

we don't let you leave.

After Laura after Laura resigns after next month

This would be a summer process.

Yeah. Then we have to go through applications again, but it's rare that you get this many applications because I've gotten one or two to fill two positions. Right. Right? And so it's rare when this happens, and it really throws the town for a loop. It really does.

I just I feel like there needs to be some clarification going forward, like, the next time we have to do this Yeah. From Michelle and the bylaws. Like, if if this needs to be a process that needs to be put in place, then we need to know before tonight.

Yeah. Yeah. That's fair.

That helps. Yeah. It just seems like it's, oh, this is

And we haven't we haven't done it exactly this way in the past. I think in the past, we just selected four, and this was hope hope well, not four, but selected as many as there were open seeds. But then I think we wound up in these scenarios where we didn't have any backups. So this was supposed to help with that, but I think it's made

I I see why. It just seems like it was Yeah. Adam as an act of thought. No.

It it wasn't. It was done, was it three years ago that they started the planning board.

Well, that's contracts. That's

No. There was actually a board before planning became something else, but we had nine applicants, and we had to list them one through nine. Remember I called you?

It was the year Rachel and

I got on the board.

Yeah. And so there was we had to put one through nine because planning got first choice, and we lost two that day. We lost two to planning. So and, actually, we ended up going down to number seven because other people decided not. So we listed one through seven, and I end up with my three, five, seven, I think it was, because everybody else got sucked up.

But is it our is it our job to prepare the resolution, or is it

No. She's The town clerk will do it.

Yeah. So so I think I think what we've accomplished tonight already, I think, is is we pick the top four that we that we want. And I don't I don't know that we need to make it a formal motion of, like, a ranking six, seven, eight, or or, I mean, five, six, seven. If you guys complete your sheets, I could just tally it at the end of the meeting and give it to Michelle afterwards and say this is our ranking.

And it's there. Like, we've got we know file.

We

We're just making

a decision between six and seven. Let's just make our lives easier and get it done in case it comes to that with

Yeah. The

people not wanting to do it. And I agree that the system is not perfect, and it hasn't been completely figured out yet. But the way I read it is that it says the board should rank all applicants to our community.

And that can

We just turn that in and if we need to vote between Tanya and Ian and get to just a quick consensus of who's six, who's seven?

We don't if we don't have anything to do with it. At from this point on

Right.

You it is we we make our recommendation, and then the town clerk contacts all these people.

Yeah.

Okay? So they would only contact they would contact Casey, Ian, and Tanya to tell them they were not selected. Right? Kelsey. And and so but if for some reason Kelsey declines, then they would go to number five.

I understand that. Yeah. But it would still have to come back to us. Right?

No. No. We're gonna submit that tonight.

That's my question.

No. We submit it tonight.

If we make a nomination, the nomination has to come from us to the board.

And that's what we're recommending. Our fourth choice, our number four is Kelsey. If Kelsey doesn't want it, number five would be Casey. If Casey doesn't want it, number six would be Ian.

Can I add one thing?

Yeah. You can also make the recommendation not to recommend

Any of these.

Any of these applicants.

So that that's my point.

So if you don't wanna recommend them, make it clear. And then because if for some reason you end up still with a vacancy, then it just opens the process again for the application. Process again anyway. Well, I mean But that's has to be viewed differently because that's for term.

I make a motion to have our first alternate as Casey. Casey Kipple. Perfect. High third. We have a motion.

Deandre has motioned that Casey Kipple be our number be alternate number five, seconded by Caesar. All in favor?

Aye.

Okay. Now now we're down to

Yes. Yeah. Yes. But we don't have to do anymore.

We don't, yeah, we don't have to, but and Michelle is asking us to. And so Ian put us as the first choice. That's why I would put him number six.

Then you can make that nominated.

I cannot move. The chairman cannot make a motion.

I motion to nominate Ian McKnight as our sixth numb sixth.

Second?

I second.

Okay. Cesar has motioned, and Melanie has seconded that we nominate or

Recommend.

Recommend Ian McKnight as alternate number six. All in favor?

K.

And and by elimination, that makes Tanya number seven. K. And that's and because she doesn't want us as her first choice, that's the way it would've ended up anyway.

Laura's just laughing because she's

Apologize for how painful that was.

No. It's not you. It's me. I just would like some clarification about Michelle.

Like Yeah.

Yeah. It

I it I think it also felt a little rushed because she was out of town, so I'm I may have had more opportunity to talk to her about it if if she was not. I coulda got a better walk here to to be a better facilitator in this.

So Well, it's Yeah.

It's and I will say, I think I also

I see the intent. It's a very validating Yes. Intent. I think the idea of it just seems like we're being forced to choose nominations maybe that we wouldn't nominate. Yeah. Well, you can do that. You can I know? I know.

But, I'm I'm hoping that Kelsey comes on board because her her background is is wonderful.

Well, I think she was we were the only board she applied to.

So Yeah. So I think

that's a good thing.

And then so and and I really like Tanya's resume, but it's in construction. So

Alright. So one other thing. After the tree boards meeting, in the past, we actually had brought in the applicants.

Yeah. To view them. Just meet them.

Just do kind of a meet and greet, not grill them or anything like that. With and I made that recommendation to to the clerk's office that allowing more time in '27, another month.

Would you that process. For that process, would you want

But the opportunity applicants.

Oh, you're saying that's the next step beyond this?

That's the next time we do this. Next rally. Well, and that would

that would sort of sit before this meeting before we made a decision on the recommendations.

Or It could

be at the beginning of this meeting. You can just say, hey. We wanna meet and greet,

and then we'll just ask you to to to, you

know, leave the room

and yeah.

Right. I think it'd be

great if it was at this meeting. I actually would love that. If you've reviewed their application and you have a sense of their background and then you actually get to meet them, I think that would greatly influence Yeah. We would all proceed.

In the past, I've never had their luxury of having that time. Would you want it? I would love to.

And I think that's the recommendation. I

spoke to every one of these people my myself.

Yep.

Right? But I've never asked them to come to a meeting because most of them, they felt nervous or they want. But I I did make that recommendation.

Well, I think as a board,

you can make that. Sorry. Yeah.

Well, I would I I have a counter to that. I in theory, yes. It's always nice to meet people. Right? I'm not opposed to that. I have been reading a lot about lately what applications do to us and resumes and everything, and I can see an also a conversation of making this a blind you don't know their name. You don't know some of their other things and that you're making that decision based because you could look any of these people up. You could see

Mhmm.

What they look like, you know, and that there are certain things that we make decisions upon based upon criteria that actually don't matter in relation to the job that is inherent. So someone may come in here and jazz the socks off of you, but really not Yeah.

Because the main Right. The main thing when I

You could go both ways. That that you can get too much information or you or you false representation.

See, most and I told all of you when I when I spoke to you because all of us says, can you allocate the time? Well, sometimes you don't know what the time requirement is. And I told all of them. I says, would never overtax you. And we all have a project, but you would never get overtaxed. And I promised you all of that, and I hope to think I never have. So alright, should we move on?

Just putting that out there is something that can be brought back as information that I think there's two ways of doing it.

I can see that. Yeah. And also misrepresent themselves on their application of history.

But just if it's if what what is merit in this in this situation? I don't know. I think it's hard. People are also volunteering. Like, it's not just like, job job. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Guys. Let's move on. Do you I didn't see a budget report in here.

It wasn't attached, but it is $20,000 still. So

I have a and then I have to admit something.

Oh.

Yeah. You know the old tent and the racks are in my garage.

Yep.

Right? And I had the stands, the t stands in a different box. Well, when my grandson and his friends were cleaning out the garage, the t stands went into the dumpster. I found that out when I was looking for them. So we need new t stands.

What is a t stand?

It's what stands them up.

Stands, I think we'll have to start over because I don't think you can just buy the component. Well, wait. Am I having something different? The tent?

No. This is the metal racks.

The new racks.

The grids?

Yeah. The grid racks. And the feet and the feet is what I'm talking about.

Feet. I'm sure you can find some of it too. Yeah.

There's another way to look at this too. You could basically use you could set up the two panels and then connect the panel without legs as a middle. Imagine like a trifold.

Mhmm. Yeah. Oh, you could

You could do it. You could do that.

You could even hang them from the

Yeah. So right in it it it maybe also, there was a couple sandbags in there that got to say That's the way

in my car for me.

Yeah. I've only been waiting for six months. Yeah. I've only been asking for it for months.

Yeah. Because I move

it out every time I put a stroller in,

and then I put I'm

like, I'm gonna bring in for this time