Historic Preservation Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

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Today is 01/26/2026, and I am calling the Erie Historic Preservation Advisory Board meeting to order. Happy New Year, everybody.

Thanks for the pledge of allegiance.

Fudge of allegiance. I know.

I allegiance

to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Secretary? Mike Berger.

Here. Andrea R? Here. Melanie Fuller's here. Rachel Folger? Here. Hi, Rachel. Cesar Jimenez?

Here.

Alex Wicks?

Here.

And I don't see Laura. She's No.

I'm here. Said I'm in the house. She won't be here.

And I see council members O'Connor and Petronelli and Harry Brennan.

Happy New Year, everybody. Hey. Has everybody had the opportunity to review the minutes? No. I'm sorry. The the agenda. Yes. May I have a vote, please? A motion, please. Move to it. Second?

Second.

It has been moved by D'Andrea and seconded by Rachel that we accept the agenda as written. All in favor? That's fine. I'm gonna raise your hand so they can see it. Everybody read the minutes?

Yes. Yes.

May I have a motion? I move to accept. Second? Second. Yeah. Deandrea has motion, and Rachel has seconded to accept the minutes as written. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Laura sent an email since she's not here. She sent the email saying that she didn't get everything ordered, but in lieu of the hat. She didn't know if the hat would be here or not. But the tent and the

Table cloth.

And the table cloth are here. So we're starting to get the rest of the stuff has not been ordered yet. It says she's having trouble getting printed. I don't know. Maybe you can help her with that. Something getting printed. I don't know. Is she talking about the She said

process of

payments for the town.

Yeah. And part of that was the delay at the end of the year. And then I think, yeah, she was trying to figure out which which files to send to the printer.

So Okay.

I'll work with her. Okay.

Alright. We go on to I don't see anybody here for public comment, so we'll move on. Harry, budget report, please.

I can pull it up if anybody would like to see, but we council was generous this year, and we got $20,000 to help with our grant application. So Great. Yeah. I think that'll make us. Thank you for our members. It's more competitive, hopefully, for a couple of great applications over. Sounds good.

Sounds Yes. The in the scope of things, I think as a board, we we always ask for the least. So

Your board's pretty low too. So Yeah. Okay.

Historic district.

Yeah. What was the what what do you hope to see from that, the $20,000? I think you're putting us on the spot.

No. I mean, it

it was I mean, in in general.

I mean, most of that was supposed to be going towards looking or going out and seeking those grants for the

Survey railroad history and phase three.

Yeah. Survey is in old yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Because

competitive grants if we get the CLG, then it's there's probably a 10%, but the competitive grant for railroad history will be it's a 25% match. So that's why we ask for the money.

Makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Because if we have if we get both of them, I have to pay for both of them. So okay.

We'll get them. Thank you.

K. In the historic district planning has realized that maybe they came on too hard, and so they have backed off. And they're gonna let us do it. Unfortunately, Lara is not here to give us what she's done lately, but I don't think it's any more than we already have. We just need to come up as a group and develop a plan on how we're gonna convey this to the community.

Because at the board, now now we need to actually set up conferences and meetings to have people come and do a q and a session. And that's the next step because we can't put it on we can't ask for people to approve it if they don't know what their it is. So that that's the next step. And I would like, if you can, get with Lara or whatever and kinda come up with your recommendations on how we should do it. Okay?

And I'm not gonna put you on a spot tonight, but for March, we need to come up with a plan. Well, February, we need to come up with a plan.

What about whether it's gonna be local state versus Georgia?

It's probably gonna be local. K. It's easier. Okay. And That will be leveraged. Yeah. And we have more more thumbs on it that way. If we do it to the state, then the same thing with the town in Home Rule, we're giving away authority.

Just

remember to email Laura directly, not as a group, so we're not violating sanctions.

Is there any You can send the initial email out, but they can't reply.

Yeah. Don't reply all.

But there's a bad habit. Analysis. Yep. One to one.

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Sorry. I have a question around that. What does it mean with the town letting us do it? Sure. There's still some parameters. Like, the communication was a big point of

Yeah. But they I think they the way when the email come out and I and I read it, it sounded like they realized that they had come on too strong, and they were acting that they were perceiving it to be instead of a bunch of volunteers doing it, we were being directed to do to do things. That's not what they intended, but that's how it came across. And so they they decided to back off until we asked for their help. Does that answer your question? Or I think they're still Pardon? Kind of.

I think the whole point of this was to work together. So now it's just solely on this board to drive that forward, but I'm not hearing a lot of still restrictions. Like, this is a 100%. You have to flow this communication through the town. So if we put it on a flyer, does the town have to see it, or does the communications department have

to see it?

We have a we already have approval from we already have approval from the the town council to go ahead and start advertising. We do not have approval for a vote. Advertising what? Okay. Don't this outreach. Yeah. We have approval for outreach, but we don't have anything beyond that. Correct.

Gauging interest. Correct.

One is the semiannuals, I'm sure.

I can look at the advance.

They're usually in March. No.

They've always been in February. Last year, it was in March. I'm having knee surgery on the second. So I'm

You'll be fine by

the fourth.

Bounce right back.

Just wheel you in. Our

role

as a as a as

a board is to advise the Town council. The town council.

Yeah. We are we are here to make recommendations.

Yeah. That doesn't mean they'll follow all of our recommendations.

We're just here to do the homework.

Normally, since we have participants from the board, the ground is always delayed before we ever get there.

Mhmm.

But we still have to have, you know

I mean, basically, The flushing. It's to see if there's resident interest in that district or in those Yeah. Boundary or

Historic district. Or create

a historic district or

And it has the possibility on increased real estate. But and, you know, like, there's two and four for everything. So did did you come up with a date? I

it's not on the advanced. I didn't see it on the advanced either. Okay.

Because normally, get an email saying you need to submit this by whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay.

And I think to your question, Cesar, I think communications would still be happy to help. If if if you want if you want their help sort of generating material or thinking through options or surveys or whatnot, I know Maggie in communications is happy to help. What Laura's good at all that stuff too, so I don't know if Laura's got sort of all the hint, but I'm I'm sure communications would happy to help. I think it would be best to go through the liaison, Gary.

Yeah.

Because, you know, if something happens to Laura, it shouldn't all be within one person's head. Sure. She did send a lot of documents. She's in the town.

She's been really good, like, all the surveys we put online. So they're all available there now. I didn't realize that they they weren't

in telework. Watercolor. If we need to

create some art or something.

You have a planning report?

Yep. When was the request from this group for the next meeting for the purpose of this project? Say again? What's the request from this group to have ready for the next meeting?

I need recommendations of what we wanna Alright. Checking. Yeah. The the outreach meetings. Do we wanna go door to door, Which I don't recommend, but I'd rather do community meetings. We can do it by neighborhood, or we can do it by street. Just what you think.

And some

I don't wanna be the one, you know, making all the you know, given all the answers.

But the purpose for the outreach is to drive interest and figure out if people are

Yeah.

Into the idea.

If people's if if preponderance of the people say no Right. Then we just stop. But, personally, everyone we've talked to at the booth is in favor of it.

They sometimes came in not in favor of it. Yeah. But

the but the majority of people are.

Well, they left in favor of it. Yeah. And

so but we got you know, we haven't heard from a lot of people from, you know, High And Main, and those are the oldest residents, and they're the old 60, seventies that you won't tell me what to do. So that's what we're up against. If that happens, we may end up restricting the district. So okay. Planning?

I don't have much for you. There's I don't know if y'all have heard, but there's a plan and an application in the works to develop the lot where the garden center goes in the summer.

Is that at 130 Wells?

Yep. Exactly. Yeah. 130 Wells. Yeah.

I know that well.

So there's nothing existing on that I've

been surveying it before they raised it.

Yeah. Unfortunately. So so as of now, there's nothing on the lot.

What used to be there? I know it

was a cute little building.

It was. It was 130 Wells, and it was on my list to be surveyed.

Instead of what did it what was the

It was a little building.

But Okay.

Like a They raised it for the ice rink. For Yeah. It was a house.

A house. I knew I knew it was a little built.

That's where they had the ice rink originally. And I went, yep. And that's where we started this planning stuff because we didn't know anything about it, and then it was gone. And we had a a liaison on the board. Artem never Artem never said a word. Well, I reckon.

That's my.

It'd be nice to have more parking down downtown.

Or beyond that. And parking Have you heard anything back on your video? That works.

It's What's the application for? A single story building that would be a couple different suites. So it'd be some office space, potentially some restaurant space. I don't remember if there's a specific program in mind or or end users of mine. But, yeah, the application that I'm looking at is, like, a single story building with a couple parking spaces off the alley, some patio space for, like, cafe Mhmm. Spaces. Yeah. And there are two retail spots also. Right? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It should be, I think, two retail, maybe one office suite too. Thought it was an office suite. It's a restaurant, a bakery, two retail, I think.

Not gonna be a very big restaurant. I'll tell you that. So

the property is owned by the town, the Urban Renewal Authority. And then a developer team is partnering with the town. I don't know all the specifics of application or of the, I guess, financial side of it, but it's the the develop part of the development team is the owner of the Birdhouse restaurant. Gotcha. So Localish. Yeah.

K. Yeah. So social media, have you heard any feedback or whatever, reaction from your video?

No. No. No. Nobody has said they've seen it. When was it?

It was two months ago.

Yeah. The town posted it on their social media. So, I mean, I saw it. I don't I don't think anybody saw it. So

I don't know.

Maybe they need to share it again.

Will you send it to me,

or just what do I want to do?

Did I see it?

Oh, Natalie

I mean, I guess we should watch it now.

I usually see

Natalie goes to the church. So Mhmm. I see her.

The town Facebook? Should be. Yeah. On Instagram.

Yeah. We're Instagram.

They were supposed to have been doing I got an email that set out on a weekly thing that the town has made changes to the webs the website to make it easier to hyperlink.

Oh.

I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know. Okay. Okay. Phase three surveys. It has been moved a month, I hope.

Yeah. So the regular CLP date, I think we're used to having it in January.

But Yeah. Around the fifteenth. Yes.

We pushed it out to February 18 is the deadline for that, and then we have the opportunity next week to submit a draft of the grant proposal, which I've been working on with Stephanie or Stepha. So we, yeah, we actually talked to Lindsay last week, and she gave us some guidance on sort of how to focus our scope, hopefully, little better application since we know we didn't get selected last year. And then I also talked to our top choice consultant, and they provided an updated budget. It's about the same. $36.07 $9.06, which was about what they had.

Yeah. And so they're they're still on board. They've been kinda waiting patiently.

If you're dealing with a government, you you know how to wait.

Right. They and they knew they knew this project was dependent on grant application. So So they've been patient with us. But so they're yeah. So they're still interested.

Yeah. CLG is not supposed to have a a match.

Right.

But this year, they do. I believe it's 10%.

Actually, it's no match up to 25,000. So I think we'll request the 25,000, no match from them. But then in order to make up the difference between what the proposed budget from the consultant is That's 11,000. Yeah. It's $11,007.09 6.

Yeah. So so That's.

Yeah. So technically no match, but we would be having to cover the difference between the 23,000 and the 36.

Thankfully, we have the budget for it.

So Yes. What's the

match requirement of those? I

think it's actually just the 25. 25,000 is the upper limit, the cap of

the Yeah.

If it's less than, then it makes sense to go.

With the current administration, the amount of money that's gone out federal money that's gone out for history has been a lot of it has been rescinded. So they're not getting what they would normally get. So, like, two two years ago, the max was 250,000. Now it's 25,000. So that gives you the the idea how much difference in the money it is. So

And I did wanna check-in. We we know from one c that the letters of support from she said that she suggested a minimum of two of residents or homeowners who would be included in this survey. We know that will be important. So I we have drafted these, and I was curious. I want input from you guys of whether you want me to just mail these out or if somebody wanted to go door to door and talk to some these people.

She suggested a minimum of two, and there would be this is 25 properties. So most of them are houses, and then we know there's the Erie Middle School if we wanna keep that in the scope.

We we would have to get a signature from the

School district. School school district. One probably isn't the easiest.

No.

But but yeah. But it's up to you guys. I mean, I think we could just nail some of these out with that little one pager information on what the screen is. Or if you guys I think it would be better to ask people if we know that look different. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I know the guy on Carbon Street was really anxious to get his history.

Okay.

Hopefully, he's the same person that was there, so I could address that. Okay. Talked to the guy on Carbon Street.

Rachel might know people.

Okay. I know what kind of people. What I'll tell.

Yeah. Yeah.

But I do I feel like the mail is probably a good place to start.

Yeah. We can start with

that. PO boxes.

If we don't get any responses from that, then we can go out.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That sounds good. I can look at this week then with these emailed out. Say that you're middle school or elementary school? You're in middle in Old Town. So that that was one of the things Stepa asked me to check-in with y'all of whether we wanted to keep that in the scope just to let

you know. Because it's back in time. It used to be historically, Cesar, it was Erie's first high school, and it was built in the thirties, maybe the twenties. So it's really old, and it's never been surveyed. So it's it's one of those things that we need to get it surveyed and if possible, get it landmarked. But when you're dealing with a government entity, the last survey sent we did we did the elementary school, so that's been done.

Now What? Is the elementary school landmark? No. It's not yet. No.

I was waiting to get them both done and then do it at one time. So

When was the elementary school built?

Couple year. Oh, '67.

Sixties. Yeah. So it's new one.

Yeah. So it's not as old, but it meets the fifty year mark. So

That's gonna get changed. You're just gonna start you'll start hitting that Arapahoe Ridge.

Same way. Way.

Old neighborhood. Plain and large.

Yeah. Old quarter. K. Alex, anything on tax credits?

No. No updates, but it sounds like I could write something up for, like, more public facing around historic district specific Mhmm. Benefits.

And that Yeah. And I would recommend that you start getting something to present in May Okay. At the town fair.

Oh, yeah. Definitely. Okay.

So when we do our semiannual to the board, we'll tell them that we're we got something to present to the town at information to give out. I know Malcolm's been asking it for years. When am I gonna get tax stuff? So I can finally tell them that we're working on

it. Right?

Can

I add to that there about town fair?

Yeah.

There was the email from Gabby.

Yeah. I already responded. Okay.

Yeah. Just wanna make sure.

K. Yeah. I got that last week, and I already responded. I said, yeah. Mhmm. We'll be Fortunately, we're not one of the people that has to pay. So

I just wanna have a new tent.

11 new tent. Great.

Escape the top?

We're typically down right across from De Bruin.

But I think what we talked about last year is that we thought it would make a whole lot sense for EHS and HPAB to be Gather. Together.

Yes.

So that because people are down here getting information. Don't We're down here and getting They

don't know the difference.

Right. They're like, we already talked to them. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So maybe we can figure out a way to request to have them Yeah.

We can

near very near each other.

Yeah. We can do that to Gabby. I can send her an email if you want. Okay. Yeah. I'll send her an email.

Maybe both of you email her. Yeah. And then it's more likely to

yeah.

Right? Happen. We do wanna be next to us.

Picking up on both entities. People are not. Yes.

Yeah.

Well, it's a chamber who makes that map, isn't it?

Yeah. Right.

But Gavy is a and Gavy is the contact. So k. Thanks. Is that

the fair? That can't be saved. Not May 16. May 16.

I'm gonna have to start putting my because Arbor Day will come up in April. We don't really need to have because people coming to Arbor Day are not there for info. So but we're there anyway, and we have been for the last three, four years. So they're they're familiar with us asking. So

I go to Arbor Day for free plants.

Yeah. You know, that thing grew.

Is that the twenty fifth or the eighteenth? It's the last Saturday. Last Saturday.

Yes. The coreopsis. Oh, really? Yep. Big.

I left my coreopsis, and he stole it. Very well. He rescued it. Okay.

The ray the railroad history, I will have an updated scope of work and everything to present you at the next meeting. So we can look at it and go on. I I know a lot more things now than I did before. And and, hopefully, it's we may be able to as as we go on because I don't wanna get ahead, but, you know, Eagle Mine. So that is all those tracks.

I wish they were still there, but they got sold off as scrap years ago before you went out here. Okay. Eagle Mine. The you know, I've been we've been working with Luke, right, in planning. And I went out there with Luke, and he so he submitted the planning grant, and that was approved. They they got it on January 12. It was approved. I don't know if they selected a vendor yet.

I haven't heard that they selected a vendor yet.

And then but what Luke had mentioned when we were walking around, he was surprised it was as big as it was.

And

the and the thing about Eagle Mine, if you walk out there, all the foundations are still there. They're all there. And but nobody knows what they were. So that's what the survey will give us. And he had mentioned that maybe we could put up a walking tool. Right? You know, the Eagle Mine since it is essentially the only existing mine. I don't know for how many miles. I don't even know if there is another one in this area. But Eagle is an existing mine. It has not been paved over. The only one.

Pretty cool.

Now Are there safety precautions placed or nobody

Well, that would all have to be done. But Oh,

no. It's a China. Yeah.

No. There would be site. What we would do is we would put walking paths with waypoint markers.

On the top side? Yeah. No.

Yeah. And Eagle Mine had had one entry point.

It was only both of the sides. Two

but but two lines, I think. And one of them technically is all the way at the bottom still burning. I mean, it's cold. It's like not gonna go out. So

that's gateway, isn't it? Yes. So that's something to keep in mind.

Well, gateway the gateway was all already around the tower.

Yeah. But if if you're gonna do a walk and tour, there's gonna be more and you're gonna That's those been foundations.

According to Luke, that's been put on hold.

Agreed. It has. Mhmm. Agreed. But I'm just saying that keep active about it.

Yeah. And and that's why we wanted to do Eagle Mine and get a landmark

Mhmm. Before that

Before this ever happened.

And it and I think it would based on the survey and how much we're sort of envisioning might be preserved. Or Mhmm. I I think I think we're we could adjust that map. Yeah. Currently, I linear.

I've seen the outlet. I I've seen the outlet from the RFP and the the the vendor, when they submitted it, actually had a circle around the tower. So let's face it. They can't build on it. You know, they may be able to make a parking lot, but they can't build on it.

Cars can

go down.

No. They

It doesn't sound so Oh,

okay. So you're saying we could landmark that whole area that's currently fixed

at mine?

Only the tower?

The whole mine.

The whole

Yeah. We're surveying the whole mine.

We're right. But I'm asking, can we landmark the whole

That's what I'm Lakers. That's what I'm trying to do. Mhmm.

I I I don't know that we necessarily would try to landmark the entire parcel, but, yes, certainly, I think depending on the results of the survey.

Yeah. It's like two acres is is what it is. It's not it's not that big, but it's bigger than you think it is.

Sure. Right. Mhmm.

Because some of those fan foundation

serious leak around it? Barking?

No. There's actually nothing there. Yeah.

I do believe that's right. Isn't that I think the warranty is. Actually think it's confused. I think it's just commercial. Yeah. If I remember correctly. And But that's super high level at this point.

There's Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But but, yeah, you're right. I think It gets We probably would wanna take a look at the boundaries of

What I was told is it comes down Makes sense. As who's going to pay for the infrastructure. Right? That's what it Hello? That's where we're at right now.

You gotta start somewhere. Start with surveys, get what's out there.

So if we do Eagle Mine, right, the goal is is to do the mine. So if we're gonna set up a if Luke really thinks about setting up a a walking tour, right, then we have to cordon off that whole area and landmark it just like we did Schofield. Okay? So Schofield's eight acres, and that's all land

popping over there the other day.

Yeah. So, yeah, Makerspace is supposed to open next month.

Really?

Yeah. Next month or March. That was the last brief I had in September when they were talking about March or February February or March being an open Makerspace. Yeah. And I understand the since with Schofield, I understand the big barn, the inside's been cleaned. Yeah. So it's not a safety hazard anymore. It's not an environmental hazard.

So

so I think on on Eagle Mine, I'll I'm I've been working with Luke, so I'll stay in contact with him. And Harry's in contact with him because with our funding, if they need a few extra dollars, we may be able to help them out. So you know? Now their survey being you know, I think it was, like, $30,000 or something like no. $16,000. But it but, you know, bringing in all the gravel and stuff like that, if we wanted to make walkways and then spruce it up, that's gonna be money.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So you're probably in the hundreds of thousands. But I don't think cleaning it up, I don't think that can be a lot of sweat equity on that. So because we're it was just a bunch of weeds. Right? And then there's glass bottles everywhere, and it just has to be cleaned. I mean, it it's really not a bad condition. It's really not. It just needs to be cleaned. So and is there anything else?

I have a question. Do you have an

update on the Bell Tower?

I don't. That that COA was approved, but I haven't seen the actual permit come through yet for those I guess since they're waiting for. Good morning. On us? Or Yeah. That no. That's okay. I was

just curious.

We were ready on New Year's Eve. Right? We were all ready. Yeah.

No one

else was, but I was. That's a good thought. I haven't checked it.

Yeah. We were waiting for the ding ding ding.

They rang it on the the ribbon cutting.

No. They didn't. I missed

it.

I was not I was taking some somebody to a doctor appointment, so I didn't get it. So Well,

they buried the time capsule, so I put in a Clayton Mine cool all token that was already, like, 90 years old. Yeah. And there were the letters, the history book or the town history book with it.

They Westerly, when they when they wanted to go west. Right? K. They had they had degree to go around Clayton Mine.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, they can't build on it. No. No. So my Clayton Mine is way out there where the where the racetrack used to be.

West Westerly. Westerly. Yeah.

That's the housing. They wanted to go west.

Is that where the big Christmas tree is, though?

Yeah. That's that that's Westerly.

Well, I know. Was that where the the racetrack was?

No. The waste the racetrack was

I

knew it was up on that.

It's north of the high school over there.

Yes. So I it it is. It was on Highway 7 or on Erie Parkway.

Yeah.

Okay. Just before the freeway. So if you know the front end road when you turn right, it was basically between 7 and that front edge road.

That's where side?

On the south side. Okay. Because Eagle Mine was on the North side. What Southwest side? I'm sorry. So Eagle Mine was on the the North side.

Extended toward Westerly too.

Mhmm.

So but they wanted to go across Highway 7 and continue on, but they had to agree on my Clayton Mine Yeah. And put up a marker.

Oh, the Clayton Mine was there. I was talking

about the racetrack. Yeah.

No. Both of them were. They put the track on top of the mine.

You used to be able

to see where the racetrack was.

And that's where 675 Holbrook came in. Because Mr. Clayton was one of the owners of that Was one of the occupants of that house. And Morrison I mean, they were founding fathers, and they got torn down to put up a. I know

there's a song about that song. Know. It's okay. Might have heard

this one. Big yellow patch.

Yeah. Thanks a lot.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're old enough. If there's is there anything else?

Okay. I was I was just gonna say so. We talked about this a little bit already, but just because of the cycle of appointments, the following seats will be up in the spring in April? April. Melanie Fuller, Rachel Fuller, and Alex.

And so then the sounds like Michelle is going to send an email this week, but the board applicant you'll if if you wanna retain your seat, you'll have to, unfortunately, do another application. And so that application form will go live on Monday, February 2. And then our clerk's office would prepare packets for the appointments to go to town council, It's, like, March or April, and I guess maybe that was it. New or returning members will be seated on May 1 or or so. I think that's maybe when the three or four year appointment?

Either two or four, I I can ask that. Could be a four, I think. Or if it's coming in Could be four. To come unifying now? It's just to align it with with when the elections got changed. Right. Yeah. And so it'll be a four year term Okay. If I remember correctly.

It's currently a four year

term. No. Some are It just it they got Yeah. Some got shortened.

Well, I've only been two years, but I took over from someone else.

Mhmm. Mhmm. And then Melanie has informed me that she will be leaving. Yeah. She will not be continuing. Thank you for your

Thank you.

Secretary. What?

We'll we'll need a secretary.

So we need to I got

But all the offices will need to be reelected. Chair, vice chair, and secretary are the three officers, so they need all three to be elected. So be thinking about that. And they've

That was the drag. Straight.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I miss all your files. It's all public right now.

Oh, yeah. I know.

No. I knew what I knew what packet it was in.

I was

like, I saw the race jacket. Every once in a while, I see it.

So if

A quick last thing about the budget. So I'm hearing that the 20,000 allocated for this year, we're, you know, using it for the survey if we get the grant Mhmm. Not as match, but as a picking up difference. What other match contributions are we looking for potentially this year that might The railroad. Right. So but if we're nearing that $20,000

Well, here's it's 11,000 for that. And that still leaves us 8,000. That's what I wanna know. The other Yeah.

I mean, the other grants.

Yeah. So we can we can do at a 25% at 8,000, or can probably go up to, what, 40,000?

Hey. Make me do math. Well,

that No. 36? That would be 10,000. Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't know. Or I don't know. Remember Do remember what our I mean, I know it was a couple years ago now, but the Well, the the the for the railroad study.

Yeah. The three bids came in at 50, 40, and 25. That's why we selected Pinyon. Mhmm. And they and they sounded very professional. You know? But we got but but we got dinged for taking the low bidder. So And it's like

would wanna rebid the Good win. Real world study if if we get the grant, I guess.

We did not identify enough housing.

But but it sounds like, like, potentially be, you know, needing all of that remaining 8,000. Just like Yes. I'm just

saying best case here, we get all the grants. What is the

The pending list comes

with metrics.

Mean, that's where this drag strip was from

that report. What is it? Yeah. Picking up the remaining cash.

I guess that's what

I mean.

So but

Yeah. I

guess was I guess,

the ones that we're gonna do the railroad. So Okay. Alright. It does sound

And and we select them because they prepared for Not only were they a low bidder, but be contributed. Professionally, they had people that could do it.

Sounds used to them

for Yes.

Once we go out.

And so we got ding for taking a low bidder. And another would

be

be worse

The 25%.

Didn't identify enough buildings. Actually more than Mhmm. We can What do you think we're doing this for? It's yeah. It was just stupid.

But What about the that that would be tight. It was too stupid. You know, we're looking at other Yeah.

Another thing. To give them heads up too. Yeah.

So I mean, it's fair. Anyway

Yeah. But if there is nothing else

Do I

have a question, sir? Any other upcoming events? A town fair in Arbor Day. That's everything this spring into summer. Right?

Yeah. And there's no airfare this year. It's only every other year.

Right.

So the other event beyond that is Biscuit Day, and that's in September. So that's too far out.

So Okay. I just didn't hear. Sorry. I have to

Because this is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States of America. Is the town planning the current party call?

Doctor Danieloff.

As the historical preservation board?

We our our big celebration with the list, the

Hundred and

fiftieth. Town's hundred and fiftieth. Right. But we I haven't heard

the get to participate that.

I think at this point, what what the town would do is fall under what Denver would do is what the state would do.

Well, it is the state's 150. Yeah.

Yeah. Well,

we already did that, but the country's 250.

Yeah. We just state.

State. Yeah. Colorado's

Colorado's eighteen seventy

Yeah. No. 1874.

No. Erie.

76.

1874. The state was 1876. Yeah.

Yeah. This year is the hundred and fiftieth.

Yep. I have no idea. I haven't heard anything.

I supposed to know.

Well, since it's a state thing, we're not really involved in it. So Yeah.

You know, maybe some extra fireworks.

Mhmm. But, you know

Ringing the bell.

Ringing the bell.

I still was thinking that they should try to reach out to the residents who attended school here, interview those people. Both of us, you can see it somewhere in town hall. That would be cool.

Yeah. I've got and several wives are still around. She's 102 now. Three. So 103 now? Yeah. Rachel and I know her real well. Rachel knows her better than I do. But

Is there has there been a formal interview, like, a documentation of her?

I did I did one. It's probably fifteen minutes long, probably. Video or audio? Video. Yeah.

Did she talk about the Lincoln School at all?

I can look at that and see.

I think it would just be nice to preserve that history since the building is being preserved.

Yeah. So

I think we should Yes.

I know Hal Brown is in my life group, and he's a graduate

from Yeah.

Very high school. '54. Okay. So but he

doesn't But not Lincoln?

No. No. Not the Lincoln.

Okay. Thank you.

But he was a graduate from the Erie High School in '54.

I'm sure nothing's changed.

He's 91 now. Alright. If there's nothing else, I call this meeting adjourned.