Planning Commission - Regular Meeting
The Englewood Planning and Zoning Commission approved past meeting minutes and findings of fact, received training on planning principles, board responsibilities, and Robert's Rules of Order, and discussed data centers.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning Commission
- Meeting Type
- Planning Commission
- Location
- Englewood, CO
- Meeting Date
- September 9, 2026
Transcript
94 sections
Okay, it's the right time. It's 6 in the morning and it's been 30 minutes. It's September 9th. This is the Planning and Signing Commission meeting in Englewood. Um, I'll call you to make an order. Can we get a roll call? Ms. Austin is here.
Mr. Adams is not here. Ms. Hapka is here. Ms. Mondial is here.
Ms. Ario is here. Ms. Kaplan is here.
Ms. Rensen is here. Ms. Hagerty is here.
Chair Martinez is here. Forum is here.
Thank you. Agenda's agenda is for the minutes from August 18th. I expect that the minutes posted in the packet will be available for everyone to review. I have a request. Is there any discussion before I receive the summaries and amendments?
Thank you, Michelle. Second.
Thank you, David. Let's take a vote. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Thank you. Next is another recommendation. This is based on the findings of the 20,260 cases, and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and again in the finding of items. This is a summary of our decisions based on the findings of the 20,260 cases, and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and again in the finding of items. This is a summary of our decisions based on the findings of the 20,260 cases, and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and again in the finding of items. This is a summary of our decisions based on the findings of the 20,260 cases, and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential non-conforming uses and is expected that you will be able to use it in residential
Angigarikan neekuka.
Nanni, Michelle. Nyan rendamathethe edukum. Ningal adhil manasilaki. Colin.
Miss Austin. Ade. Miss Havka.
Illa.
Shemikanam. Illa. Um, Mr. Mondial. Hi. Miss Cesario. Ade. Mr. Kaplan.
Nyan.
Mr. Ransom.
Yes.
Mr. Hagerty.
Yes.
Chair Martinez. Yes. Pramayam is passing. Thank you.
Okay. Has anyone here signed up for the public forum online? No, we will avoid that. Um, do we have to open the exam announcement or is that correct? Yes, we can go. We are ready for this exam announcement.
Good night, Commissioners. My name is Colin. We have planning manager Jackson Higgins in town. I am in charge of this refresher program. Please join us. This program is going to be divided into two main segments. I am going to give an overview of how the program has been developed in Englewood for the development of tourism and zoning. Next, Jackson will give a legal introduction. It will focus on the commissioner's scope, responsibilities, and recusal laws. Do not hesitate to ask questions whenever you want. However, if you want to stop him until the end of each segment, we can save some time there. So, what is the invitation? I fully expect that you have a good understanding of what an invitation is. But I wanted to start this introduction with a small introduction. First of all, the initiative is a community decision-making process. What does the community want to protect? What does it want to change? Where and how does it want to grow? How does it decide on how to organize infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, Therefore, I wanted to talk about the history of Hrishwa that I learned from the history of Hrishwa and the reasons for it and some of the lessons I learned along the way. It was not only because the government wanted to control the private sector, but also because they could and could not do what they wanted to do. In the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, the agricultural revolution was the reason why American cities could not stand up to underground facilities and establishments. And so you had far-off buildings near the factories, and unfavorable weather, fires, and some serious public health problems. In this photo, you can see a homestead in Pennsylvania. A homestead steel mill next to a single house. This began to change from a city built by hand to a more purposeful residential and residential management. The problems that such cities face were the reason for the construction of the City Council in 1916, when the first zoning ordinance was issued in New York City. Oh, but when did the council become a legal tool for the police authorities who could help the cities? And that was in 1926, when the Uklid village and the Supreme Court case were filed. In 1922, a zoning ordinance was established in Uklidu in Uttar Pradesh, and it was distributed as different districts that had moved the agricultural and agricultural services of the city from residential services. It seems familiar. Therefore, there was a plan to develop Amlar as an area for agricultural services, but that land was decided to be residential. They claimed that they had taken the right to the 14th district of the city by accepting their own property without making a loss. Ok, Uklidu village won the Supreme Court case, established a law that was in line with the provisions of the Constitution and gave the government the right to operate on the land. But for a long time, the courts established that this right was not prohibited. And so you have Necto and Cambridge cities. It was established that environmental organizations should be restricted to public health, public safety and public safety. And, in this case, the Supreme Court actually joined forces with the local government to sell a land for agricultural development, and the city re-established a part of it as a park. And, the problem was that the residential property was surrounded by other agricultural uses. Or, that decision was made by the courts because it had nothing to do with the ownership and ownership of the land, and because it was surrounded by agricultural lands in this state. And after about 40 years, more and more court cases were established. And there are many court cases in between, but these are some of the main ones. The difference between Nolan and Dolan is that Nolan and the California Coastal Commission are in Tamil. These cases established a necessary relationship of necessity. The facilities in which the city is built and the actual facilities in which a city is built are the same experience. Therefore, they are assuring that the governments cannot use land or money for their own purposes if it is not justified by law. Do you want to add anything to that? I don't want to add anything. Okay. I don't want to pretend to be an interpreter. Or, the fact that it is necessary to understand from the last slide. Or, but there are limitations to it. Or, it is difficult for a person or an unbeliever to see all the aspects of a community ahead of it. Or, initially, we are not complete. There are two examples of decisions that have led to some unexpected results. The first example is single-use zoning. And, as we discussed in the case of Euclid, single-use zoning helps to address legal concerns about non-existent natural resources. But when you take a very long distance, it can lead to a lack of vehicle comfort, long-distance travel, small consumption, and non-existent areas outside of business time. Think about your downtown business district. In addition, eviction zoning is a way of development that creates barriers to other communities, not only to a society that benefits from diversified construction and a society that benefits from eviction. And, when combined with particularly low energy, it can be a major part of the industrialization of special infrastructure. And another example of the Cross Bronx Expressway. And, therefore, this method was in New York by urban planner Robert Moses. And, this significantly reduced the number of businessmen in the Bronx. And, before this project, it was a great example of how the United States developed urban highway methods. A great sidebar about Robert Moses. In the mid-20th century, he had a great reputation in New York City, and his many methods were controversial. If you want to explore him a little more, there is a great book about him called Power Broker, which is fun to read. Therefore, the teaching of worship is still a community failure as a successful underground system. In 1954, Putti Gopettan, who was the general director of a large building built in St. Louis, Missouri, said, It was intended to build new apartment buildings instead of low-income apartments. However, this was one of the most important examples of real estate bankruptcy. In these issues, star-scale primes and mortgages are important. This is due to some financial problems, some things that have been done unfairly, and some crimes. And, everyone thought that St. Louis would grow, and that it would make a difference in the population. And, it started to flourish in 1972, just two decades later. Therefore, only the form of a residential building cannot be considered as a social or financial monument. A City Expansion The last two examples are examples of urban development. This was a federal funded program to rebuild the destroyed urban areas. They often relocate residents without replacing the previously existing social and financial facilities. A local example of this is the Araria campus in Denver. As a result, there may be physical problems in a community that has been affected by the lack of education. The purpose of the city administration may be positive. It may begin to create facilities that can be improved or more affordable, and there may be unexpected characteristics in the way in which these measures are implemented. And, as a result, the decision-making of education will affect various different areas. Um, adhinal ee paadangal chilla aadhuniga aasootrana siddhantangale roopapeduthan sahayikunnu. Um, innatthe aasootrana reediyeyum akkadamik chindayeyum swaadhinikunnu. Um, kommishunarmar enna nilayil, oru pratyega nayam angiigarikuka ennada ningal ude pangalla ennada shradhikenda dhanannu nyan karudhunnu. Help to use the laws adopted by England and help to create them. But I think it is valuable to touch these two principles. So the first Jane Jacobs. At that time, the writing of Jacob was a direct example of the great block model of urban development and development in the 50s and 60s. Their loving speech comes from the culture of energy, from the diversity of uses, from small blocks, from the eyes of the street. That is, ordinary people are surrounded by their daily lives. and creates a natural landscape. This new urban development is expected to rise by 80 to 90 percent. This was a response that made the design of Vyavanathod to stand out. This is also important for the design of traditional Ayalpaka-Ayalpaka padyan, multicultural streets, the culture of Bavanatharangal, and general streets. Minimum Carlos Moreno's 15-minute city. And this is more and more new. It is a popular desire. It is a place where you can travel by bike or walk from your home. There are some arguments about this, but the primary focus should be on a community of people who can walk and who cannot use vehicles. We know that you must be aware of this. Cities do not decide where to go from town to town. We have established guardrails and are continuing to manage the rest of the flights. Strong Cities This is a new financial crisis. War-torn suburban developments, especially low-efficiency developments, low-income facilities are not making enough money to cover some of these long-term economic costs. Now, we are going to hold a meeting in Emmanuel. So, I would like to review our decisions in detail. So, the Commission and the CET Council are raising a comprehensive bill. It is a great example of the society's independence, and it is also an opportunity for others to show their support. This is part of the long-term tourism efforts of the city. It is necessary to understand that the community's citizenship, basic needs, access to jobs and services, and the priorities of the community are primary. This is accompanied by more detailed strategies and master plans that are displayed on this screen. Therefore, as commissioners, you must make sure that all the regulations, codes and regulations in this city are in line with them. This is often the case when we bring you a request to show you how this works in a consistent manner. Therefore, all these guidelines that are in line with the city's guidelines are actually being implemented. That is, the city code will be implemented. The development and development process in the city is called the land renovation process. This is carried out 16 times. As you all know, this is completely rewritten using the code next to it. Oh, this is an important tool used by the staff and commissioners. It complements the construction of land, the height of the fence, the size of the area, the parking space, etc. In addition, this makes it possible for the Commission and the people to make a clear decision regarding the approval of the right to use, laws, and zoning regulations that have been started. So, Euclidean zoning is a common practice in Englewood, which is a district near Englewood, which operates as an environmental district. It is known as the Euclid case, and it is known in its name. However, most of the Sonia districts in Inglewood are mixed-use districts. If some of the districts are managed, they provide residential and multi-use facilities. Also, this helps to address some of the issues we discussed about single-use zoning. Also, some of the major concerns of this incident are very important. Many procedures are completed by the residents administratively. And, this is a provisional rule. The Code has been written as strictly as possible. And, this is a permanent rule. In the past, the Euclidean zoning was considered to be non-existent. Nevertheless, there are some variants and procedures in our Code that provide some rules for some administrative processes and various facilities. Therefore, apart from sub-district zoning districts, there are two major applications that offer some more lines and control options. The first is Overlay Districts. They make sub-district zoning a sub-district, but add more controls on top of some millions of lines or sub-district zoning. For example, near-term discussions on the protection overlay may be presented as an overlay district. There are also various overlays such as the Ayalpaka Protection Overlay and the Transit Station Area Restriction Plan Overlay in the city. And the final application is for residential unit development. And this is a zoning system that can be completely separated from the city's underground zoning, and a custom zoning is being established. But it should be underground for a specific project. And that's why it's more complicated. You can create completely separate systems that are not possible under standard zoning. However, it is again tied to a consistent plan, which is based on a kind of neutral or neutral project that takes the city's goals forward. Another example of Englewood is the various multifamily developments near the train station. They are actually in an agricultural megalajilla. Oh, that's why the puts are special. They promote innovation, but it comes at the expense of the government. That's why each put is a zoning amendment. It is a decree for the approval of the Executive Minister before the City Council. And if those puts are established, it will no longer be a rule. There is a possibility that the rules may change as time goes by and changes are used. In some cases, there may be some built-in administrative changes. But if there is a need for change in use or if there is anything that needs to be done, it is possible to go back to the council. It was a lot in about 15 minutes, but I completed it in my segment. Do you have any questions? It was a freshman-level intro course in 15 minutes. It was amazing. Thank you. Yes, questions. The quick question is going to be, should the pool be of a certain size? Yes, I believe that's how it is. Now I'm making my own decisions. One acre for toilet needs and half an acre for residential needs. It can be changed. I'll check it out.
You need to have enough space for the pub. So it creates a space for it. Is that correct? Then one of the great things about the PUDs is that we see the most and then control it. Do we have to look like the moon? You are no longer looking at agriculture. Then, are you looking at residential or multi-use land? You know, I think I'm trying to get the answer to my question here. But I'm not sure if that's super. No, this is a great question. You know, this is intended to make an announcement very quickly. Just to get to the highlights. We can definitely do more experiments in the future. But generally, to answer your question, you will have to sign a putsch and sign a council. It is no longer an issue whether it was a base zone district or what it used to be. Um, sometimes some parts of the border can be moved back to the border, or if it is silent, we can move it back to the border. Um, but this is a reconstruction of a completely and completely safe district. I think you can do whatever you need in that area. The zoning bans and reforms are passing through a loophole, but we are the ones who make them happen. Yes, right. Again, which is it? It is the virtues, isn't it? If you have a great project, you have to apply it to the goals of the city again. So, if you can't connect it to some of the goals of the KOMBU plan, it is a problem, a major problem. Yes, but when things change in the future, it is getting worse. The appropriate method you mentioned. All of this was done by the government. And this is very old. There was a process to update it, but it didn't work out completely. And then, when we reach the age of 10, how will we know the main goals and principles to be used when we reach the age of 10? 10 years old. Yes, that's a big question. So, a few years before I came here, we started supplemental updates. We are starting that effort again. I think the next process was to complete the code. That's what it means. But we have decided to go to the council. We started on October 5 to discuss whether we would like to see a complete update of the system if not a supplemental update. But now it's a guiding document. That is the reality. And that is what we are still looking for. Isn't it? Thank you. I thank you for that. What I meant was, there are a lot of things that we do, talk about, and decide every month and week. I think it is good for all of us to have a common understanding and knowledge about mental health. In addition, these questions often have more than one correct answer, and some questions often have less than one correct answer. I think it is very good for us to get this opportunity. We are here to remind you of the importance of what we are doing here. That is why I congratulate you.
Colin, thank you. Okay, Jackson. We are changing the tone a little bit. To conclude, my biggest wish is to have a Quasi-Judicial Board. So, we are going to talk a little bit about the special laws that bind you to a Quasi-Judicial Board. Many of them are about creating a record in your history and establishing property. Because you use a lot of things as a base. When we talk about the current situation of Nolani and Dholani, and when we talk about their opinions, we begin to wonder what their opinions are. When we cannot relate to the issues of public safety and relief, and when we cannot relate to the issues of the police and the authorities of the city, we wonder. At that time, I have to talk about your real power and where it comes from. You are special. You have the right to both the Charter and the Charter. So I will not read it for you. But if you want to choose, I will always go to the third code. This is online. This is easy. England Municipal Code. When we choose there, it is Control F Municipal Code. This is our Bible. Then Article 8, Boards and Commissions, you have the right in the second part. This is the City Council and the Zoning Commission. My intention. This is what we all remember as your primary right. This comes from the Charter. There are some express rights that are given to you as a body. So, when you are appointed to the Planning and Zoning Commission, these are the rights that you are entitled to. But you have the right through your BILOGAL. You can create it yourself. If you feel that you need it at any time, we can make it available to you. Some of the provisions and Charters in the legislation that you are entitled to are binding. But then there is this tradition, which is practice. So here's an example. You have a clear right to create a list in the form of a body that determines the priority of the structure of the foundation, and you have a list in the form of your own. It becomes a more powerful view of the budget. That's the right thing to do. That's what I think the council is doing in your country. But it's not in the chart or in the code. It was developed over time. Again, if you have any questions about your BILO, if you want to review it, if you need a update, the rules for approval are there. I think all of you should be aware of the residency requirements. Other boards and commissions are not responsible for a commission in the sense that you all have only one thing to do. We say that being a quasi-judicial body is special and enjoyable. These are your roles and responsibilities. On the other hand, Collin did this. This is very helpful. After bringing one case to the staff, we suggest to all of you where the zoning commission is usually placed. The development review team meeting continues with the announcement of the development review team meeting. When most cases try to make decisions for you all, we have tried our best to explain the Code, to show the right place in the Code that you are requesting. Therefore, we will talk about more responsibility. But all the cases that come to you will come together with the humiliation that you experience. How you accept a case, whether you accept it or reject it, whether you accept it or reject it, is a great way of connecting your vote with a reason. That's why the staff should be connected to the tools that you use. So again, if you have any questions about the tools that you should use, it is mostly decided by the case. If you are ever interested in it, ask us what you should use. You are all very good at avoiding things. I'm never going to do things like that again. It's self-sacrifice. We need a clear residency. You are all residents of Englewood. That's the main thing. Because you have a strong interest in using and implementing Englewood's appropriate methods. Or, you have a strong interest in the well-being and security of our city. But when we start to get into your personal issues, that's when we need to pay attention. That's why we'll talk about the recusal rules later. After that meeting, it's a bit of a meeting. That's when it's necessary. And, naturally, we held this discussion. And, one of the things that stop your ability to speak out in a hearing is to take further details. or when we present the details of a case to you, we want you to be at the beginning, middle, and end of that hearing. So that you don't have to have a body outside the court. Then, even if you listen to our Planning Commission, there will be a decision or a resolution from you. And, Quasi-Judicial is important. You are not acting as a Quasi-Judicial Board at present. You are not making a decision. And, you are not acting as a Quasi-Judicial Board this evening. We are conducting a student session. So, there is no part of that decision. But, you are making a resolution to the Council. So, as a Board, this is another important part of your action. I will not read from the slide. If you have any questions about your roles and responsibilities, I will accept them. Yes. Um says so. We finally got approval in the Code.
Um, please give me an example of how it will be implemented. Um, while we were talking, you know that the main contents of our case are confidential. A lot of processes take place. That is, a lot of decisions are made in the director's code. If there is one part of a code in a particular project, it is a confirmation. It may not be as clear as we want it to be, but anyone can appeal against the director's decision and it can be brought forward by all of you. Okay. This is an example of acting as a semi-judicial in the interpretation of the law. Sometimes when you negotiate to prepare laws for the city council, you act as a semi-judicial. Yes, but that would be an example of a semi-judicial role.
Can you briefly discuss ex parte communications? Yes, of course.
Then we can talk about the Colorado Open Meeting Law. Yes, when there is a conflict. It doesn't have to be in this contract. It can be anywhere. Um, it can be more than that. We are talking about the city business. That's why the Colorado Open Meeting is known as a law. Now you can have a private party of three people. Apart from being in this commission, you may know a lot about other reasons. That's good. Keep one thing in mind. If the three commissioners agree, the public will not think that the public will not accept the most popular or the most popular way. Um, If I were in your position, I would be very careful and careful, I would be aggressive and aggressive, I would be aggressive and aggressive, I would be aggressive and aggressive, I would be aggressive and aggressive, I don't think so. I expect that all three of you are good friends. I'll just say that.
Um, again, XR communications. Move forward.
It actually goes to emails.
Um, yes. Then, you can pay attention. Um, we'll change our way in this matter next time. Um. If you receive an email and you feel that it has come to you, and if it comes from a living person, the first thing we started to do was to send an email to the whole body and if anyone made a mistake and gave it back to everyone, it would be classified as a false information. It triggers the open meeting law. Now, in general, it is not a problem. We turn it into a general rule. The solutions to the Colorado Open Meeting Act are to ensure that the decision is being made in a fair way and to make sure that anything that happens in the future is made public. And we still want to prevent that from happening. So what we have started to do is to spread the word. By doing so, each person on a board receives an email or a message from a resident at the same time. But that avoids it from becoming a discussion that causes open meetings in that way. When the entire purpose of the Open Meeting Act and the decisions that affect the public are taken, they will be able to enter those meetings. Therefore, there is a clear reason for it to remain.
In that case, if it is an MN Road email, is it not part of the public region, so it does not receive information about the public meeting? Yes, it should be available to the public. It comes as a 24-hour public announcement and a requirement. Emails are not like that internally. There are ex-parte communications, and I think this is against all of you. I don't have to say that, but there are ex-parte communications when there is a public interest in a hearing that you can have. You can say that you have a friend who wants a pub. Or, we can talk about the form of recusation and impropriation, but make sure that you do not accept or use the information that is being held against you in one way or another. That relationship does not create an argument for you. Thank you for that question. Even if it is outside, there are more. If there is any question at the moment, it is a way to continue. That is why we are all in the Woodblock Party. You are saying that three people should not start talking separately. If that happens, one of us will say that I am outside, or you know. Do you know one thing we did with the CET Council? We know that there will be three or more Council members. that there will be at least three or more council units somewhere. That is an announcement. Not because of that. You don't have to avoid an announcement. But again, it is a good way for the public to assume that they are not receiving any positive feedback about us. The reason is that the government needs to be thoroughly investigated. That is a legitimate matter. And moreover, Okay, thank you. Judicial bodies, what are they? We talked a little about that. The law is applied to the object. You continue to interpret the law and you apply the law. If a decision is appealed, if you all come from the decision, it will normally be appealed to the CET Council. There are three things you all need to consider.
One of the things that will help us to stand firm in your decisions is the practical use of the law. Colin has pointed this out. Sometimes excessive and excessive zoning laws create unexpected characteristics. That is why we are trying to avoid it. We are trying to stand firm in your demands. Therefore, this is a way to avoid making it negative, or to prevent it from affecting anyone, even if it seems legitimate and useful. Therefore, this is a way to avoid it. Another way to avoid it is to make it clear from your point of view, as the basis of your decision, and to accept it. It doesn't have to come in an argument. But you are all doing it well by talking to you. Before you start voting, this is the time to explain how you will vote. Then, when you vote, as I believe, if you do this next time, you will vote yes or no for the reasons mentioned above. Because it is an individual struggle, we are going to talk about the mandatory restrictions. Our laws are stated in Article 11, Section 8 of the Englewood Municipal Code. Right. And, the conflict of interest. I'm sorry. The conflict of interest needs to be resolved very quickly. This is happiness. Interest is either a personal right or a financial right or a responsibility. It is directly related to the financial interest of the city, the families of such representatives, or any business related to the city's representative. There is no general interest in interest. Therefore, remember any financial interest. It is any financial interest involving financial-related businesses and families. Now, I gave an example of a friend. It's not an interest, but rather, I don't think it's a special interest. I think it's an affair. It's a different kind of humiliation. One thing I want to tell you is that it's under your jurisdiction. If you think so, you have the right to back out in that case as well. If your decision is neutral, you can think that it is neutral, you can deny the belief of the public, it is a reason to withdraw from a hearing and vote in the court. Do you have any questions about the interest rate? Yes, sure. Are you sure?
How will anyone know? If they don't send you an email and ask you, you can tell us. We are a small company. I have done business as a developer. Now, I don't have any financial interest in them, but we know each other. Now, I don't think I'm going to show off. But do you think I'm like that? Anyway, I have to avoid myself, right? Only to pay attention.
Yes, that is the difference between the real struggle and the expectation of the reality, right? Then you are not necessary otherwise. My advice is to protect public trust. It is good to stand alone even if there is a legitimate feeling. Now you don't have to do that. Living people can't do anything to make you. But I think that's a good way. One thing to understand is that we are a small town. Umm, we won't pretend that we don't know you before things happen. So, if you are a volunteer in the name of knowing each other, or, Oh, I know Walgreens property. I have thoughts about it. Umm, then no one can vote. Umm, but like your example, If you are interested in it, if a public person comes to your kitchen with that question, I will do it, please contact me, we can talk about it together. It happened to me, we can talk, are you doing any business with them? Is this a previous relationship or a permanent relationship? Is there any possibility in the future? Because then I will do it in recusal. But this is just one case. I can help you to make sure that you have the necessary recourse to solve those questions and to make sure that you have the necessary recourse to do your own recuse.
Does that go forward? Oh, no. Yes, and I have a question as to how it is related to ex parte action. Imagine that a developer is connected to one of us before a case. And they arrive, give information. We may not be responding to one side, but we are responding to the other. What is the trigger for recusal?
Good. Thank you. A developer cannot stop you from doing so. So you are not going to be punished for receiving a communication. Again, as soon as possible. We have to make sure that we are aware of it and that we are aware of it. Both are important things. So, if you receive that communication, come to me. Before that, come to me and say, Hey, what should I do about this communication from a developer? Rather than asking, make sure that it does not come out after feeling bad. Furthermore, I do not disclose this as a matter of fact. I do not have permission to disclose the details before the hearing. We can talk about a response that says, I will see you at the hearing. And I do not think that any case will be approved in the matter of whether or not I agree to return it or not. Usually, developers should know that it is not permissible. And if it turns out to be a problem, the developers will make sure that they are aware that you are not in control of your decisions. Any other questions related to the fact that struggles and uncertainty are inevitable? So, if you decide that leaving yourself is the best option, does that mean you will never be present? That is, you.
Are you not coming on that day or what are you doing? Oh, okay.
I'm not sure. Nancy, in the past, we used this as a tool to do things. So, if I'm wrong, you can correct me. Um, no. Don't come. You can come. Um, you can call us to make an order. You can accept the minutes of the last meeting. Um, you don't ask questions or participate in the hearing. So, if you are sitting there in the hearing, I think it's best if you make a decision after the hearing is over. Um, you come back and act as if you are doing it. Do you say that I am a backer from the meeting or anything like that? Then it is recorded. Okay.
Yes. Yes. Then yes. Thank you for asking that.
When it comes to the decision of the director of a company based on the interest rate, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, or when it comes to the need for feedback, If that is not the case, then you have the right to say that you want to return to this situation yourself. If there is an emergency in your area, if you are elected, you must leave the city or the board of the city or the city board of the city or the city board of the city or the city board of the city or the city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board of the city or city board
I have one more question. Um, about the interest rate. Let's say we are here. We have a hearing for a protection overlay or a protection overlay. I live in that area. If I am in that district, should I go back myself? Right. Then this discussion came to us next.
Um, I think that even if you are all emigrants and there are zoning problems that affect you, it does not affect the financial interest and it speaks more. No matter how the hearing comes out, a commissioner does not have an income or debt. I don't think that's the difference between a real and a fake struggle. I don't think that's how it feels. But if there's a protest in it, it still feels appropriate. But if we ask about the illegal prostitution and you come to me with that speech, I don't know if I'll encourage you to step back from that case. I don't think there's a strong argument. So I don't think there's a way to defend that you're showing an unjust protest in the matter of resistance and public belief. Okay, the things that can be understood, the things that can be improved, and the things that can be done in a fair way. Now we are moving on to the laws of nature. Okay, I don't know how familiar you all are with Bob's laws. We have accepted him before. I'm sure we've talked about it. And I'm not going to go too far about him. If you need an electronic replacement, I think it's better that you use it in an electronic way so that you can pick it up. If you don't need it, don't hesitate to let us know. We'll give it to you. Oh, but the main thing about using Bob's laws is that he usually doesn't make your work more difficult. And they do it in a way that is not in any form. It is a way to have a general opinion and to ask questions about problems. It makes it easier for the public to understand what is happening. It makes it easier for you all to participate in that fruitful discussion. Because we don't talk much about nature. Because it spoils our time. We would like to be here to talk about business. So, Give points, movements. When I test this, Don't be afraid to raise your hands and ask any questions. And if you don't know anything, I generally assume that you know this because you do it well. But that's why I'm going very fast. Does anyone have any questions about what it means to change that? No. Perfect. That's a great change. This gives us a lot of time. And we can come. Oh, very quickly, forgive me, because we are a minute behind. Um, Quasi-judicial authority or Quasi-judicial decisions often involve the use of legal items established by a hearing and the interests of indigent individuals. Therefore, it becomes important to use only the information given to you during the hearing. Therefore, it is important to make the hearing start and the hearing end. Um, so those things are not just for fun. Right.
In that. Very fast. Then we will get a pocket in front of us, right? Yes. Does that have any benefit? No, no.
The pocket will be part of the hearing. But you should read it carefully. There is no pocket in the general conversation. I am trying to understand what is the most important nature of a hearing. You should be able to hear both sides. You should be able to understand what you are going to discuss. The staff report should be more detailed. Okay. You can apply for a point of order or a point of appeal to the meeting's presiding officer. This is a good place to start. Because as I said, Bob's laws are not intended to hinder your experiments. If it makes it easy for you, some things will be unnecessary, right? Some things sometimes go into the dark. We don't want to stop you from doing that. This is not intended to stop it. In that case, you can apply for a point of order or a point of appeal at any time, so that we can talk about general laws. For example, if you feel that you do not have the opportunity to speak, I can bring the law that you need to apply. You can apply whenever you want. You do not need permission to apply for a permanent point of order. It can happen when emotions are discussed. But it's just a point of order. I don't have the right to speak. This is the law to be passed again. But generally, that law. The executive officer, acting chair, has the right to speak in the assembly. Now, the right to speak in an assembly is limited to five minutes. Sometimes, the general law. All the points that you are going to discuss are discussed at the same time, which is the best solution for you. The different aspects of a case are clear. So, sometimes this is useful. You can discuss this in each hearing. Even so, it is not a problem if you decide to conduct it. However, this law assumes that sometimes one thing is discussed at a time, which is the best solution. In addition, their opinion is discussed on each aspect of the matter, and then the boxes disappear a little faster than it discusses it. It is up to you how you want to use it. At the beginning of a hearing, you can point it out. You can decide that this is not a point of order. You can talk for more than five minutes. But if you want to use this law, it will be a point of order. I believe that many of you have spoken more than five minutes. The chair will have the authority to decide how to proceed. Until all the other floors get floors, only one floor can get floors. Again, this is very difficult, because you have to do this all the time because you have achieved this vision correctly. So this is unfair, but generally speaking, you are on the one hand. When you sit and sit in a discussion, you should make a point of peace of mind and apologize, but it is right to say that this person spoke this far. For that, please repeat. Do you have anything to say about this particular issue? And, as you know, we do not want to give up easily. Yes. If we are in a special discussion, but if they do so, it is important that there should be a shared share on each side. Okay, this is not intended to be broadcast. All of you are doing this very well. As a board, you are doing a very good job. So, I am acknowledging that. A board needs a permission to accept an initiative. Or, this is just a general rule. Or, a permission is required to open a hearing. Again, you don't have to listen to this much. And, to end the hearing, we are going to agree to continue to end the hearing. I believe there is a law here. It is 5.2. I don't believe there is a law here. It is 5.2 and it is based on the rule of law. Now, it is a rule that I am not going to deny case X. Oh, I don't accept the negative. It makes a mistake. But the reason why we advise you to say that I don't accept it is because if you don't accept it and it fails, it will not be accepted as a constant. Does that make sense? If you fail to accept it, it will be a permanent failure. That's why it's very fast. Um. We all have a nice little trick. Okay, that was the rule. You're good. Okay, then you don't even need a minute for one point. I don't want to get confused about what the right point is. I believe that all of you should have a sheet of points and moves. Is that correct? If not, don't hesitate to contact me. I'll give it to you. But if you think that the points in your pin pocket should be in a certain order, then it's a reasonable point. It's not an opportunity to give an opinion, it's a point of information. But if you think you heard something wrong, or if you think you heard inappropriate information from someone, it can be from a board member, a staff member, or when you hear a speech, it can be a point of information at any stage. Then it can be an appeal point. If you make a new decision, it is an opportunity to change that decision within a law. They are the three points. They don't need a second point. They need a second point. You all know that. They do it well. By the way, our beautiful rules. They are very simple. And if you want to have an advantage, we are in 1, 5, 2, 1 prayer. Very simply, it reads, this is our responsibility here, but it is written as a council. When you are in a council session, you must be aware of the rules and rules of the council. Do not disturb the peace of the council by giving a speech or taking action. When speaking, do not allow anyone to disturb the council or its presiding officer's answers. This is a normal responsibility for everyone who participates in a hearing and for those who participate in a meeting. And one more thing, I think it is very representative. You are doing this well. You don't have to listen to it. But if we expect the public to participate in what is being said, it is not a lie that we are doing it when others need it. Before saying that K Jackson is an appeal point, there is one question, and the second one did not happen.
That's how I intend to move forward. Yes, thank you. Appeal point. One minute. Point. So, the appeal point is a chair that knows the way back. Yes, that's right. I used that law incorrectly. Yes, the other one is the body's vote. Um, that doesn't take a minute. Then, the chair says, I did that. What is the appeal? We can vote. Double quote. Um, or you say, oh, that's right. I forgot what that law is. Double quote.
Then, that's how it works. Good. Okay.
Do you have any other questions about the scope of your laws? Um, can I go ahead and ask our opponent, who is like his documentation, about the one-pager Bob's laws? Just like I did somewhere else. But, yes, that's for sure. Think about it again. That would be very good. If the full electronic version is just a PDF, or... Is that a PDF? Okay. Would a pager and a full PDF be good? Perfect. I can do that. Yes, perfect.
I believe my last 10 days are 2023. That's the most important thing. Forgive me. Yes, okay, perfect. I'll give you all that. I'll do it tomorrow. Nancy is doing a great job of putting us on the track. But when a problem arises in a relationship, can you go through that process happily? Yes, of course. Then it's time for us to start setting up relationships. Um, there is a condition on the floor. This is a condition to accept Case X. You can say that you have provisions, right? Um, the best way to do that is to discuss it with you. Obviously, it is part of the discussion. Oh, I don't like this. If I have a provision, I can apply it. Um, then the best way is to apply it in the way that says Case X below. Describe it well, use the words of the common people, you don't have to be so sure that it is correct. Um Nansi is doing a very good job in making sure that it is correct. The most important thing is that we understand the purpose of trying to interpret it. So if you are aware of it, if you have any questions about the use of words, you can ask me at any time. But the best thing is that I refuse to interpret. There is a second. One important thing is that there must be seconds for votes to happen. If there is a second, it does not mean that you will say yes or no. I think all of you know that. If there is a vote, it does not mean that you will say yes or no. That is a matter that can be decided by the board by putting it on the table. I refuse to vote. There is a second. The board votes in the vote. If the vote is accepted, if the board votes yes, the vote in the board becomes that I am going to vote in the vote. It happens internally. You have now made a decision. And so, when you actually vote in the general election, you vote on the basis of the decision you have made. If you lose, you vote on the basis of the decision you have not made. Hey, can I have a fair decision? Is that right? Or how much do you think fair decisions are for clerical pigs? Okay, thank you. We have to give back to the lovers.
What do we have to think about if no one is accepting or liking us? When someone exposes a concept, do we change the things we discussed first? It is not necessary to expose a new concept. And I am trying to think about where the crazy things are happening. But sometimes there can be something controversial. No one wants to argue, or no one wants to accept. If you want to say it, you can always do it. It is a way to do it. There is no objection to it. I am saying that it is recorded here. When you find that you have a problem in love, you say, if you have a problem, I will accept it or I like it. Secondly, those things do not give you advice. This is just a matter of practice. That's why I'm encouraging you. Not like that. At the beginning of the meeting, when the minutes are accepted, especially when we take actions related to differences and things like that, I think it's important for us to make sure that we're doing it right and that we're working on it. And then when we vote for it, that's what we put in it. But if you make a promise that doesn't take a second, you'll die.
Okay. Okay. Thank you, Jackson.
Thank you, everyone. I am grateful that you are all here on Wednesday night.
Excuse me. Can I ask you one more question? Because it reminded me. Um, okay. So, are we going to accept the second one? Will there be more discussion at that time or do you have to vote directly from there? Okay. Then, you have to conduct a discussion after you have approved it. Oh, sometimes I think you will see the difference between how the CET Council does it and how we do it. While doing that, it is easy for you to use it in the process of public hearing. But immediately I agree to the second one and continue the discussion. That's how it is. That's how you change to open. For example, let's say we have a public hearing for a while. Right? Then you agree to open the hearing, right? We do everything. We continue to finish the hearing. We continue to accept. We continue to have more discussions in that area. Yes.
Right. Yes.
Sometimes it's the same. Because it's a topic in Meshapuram. Yes, we finish it. We continue to open it up to our discussion. Yes, it is clear that there is still a discussion when the staff is still available before we finish it. Yes, but there is still a request. That is the request that the hearing has opened. That is during the hearing. When the hearing is over, before the discussion starts again, there has to be a request on the floor. That is to accept the case. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay.
The next agenda case is from 2026 to 2011. Data. Centres. Data centres. Okay. This.
It is more beneficial than any other study session. But you are not making a decision. I need your feedback on this. Because we would like to announce it. We have received some guidance from the CET Council. We have to approve it. Even so, it is happening. Announce data centers. According to our zoning code, the application of the zoning code had a council opinion about what it was. The staff's opinion is that it is not a mandatory use in our code and it does not apply to any other use. Or, what happens if there is no mandatory use is according to our zoning code. That then goes into the interpretation of the executive director. That would be the community development director Brad Power. I have asked him about this, but he has not seen a proper application that can be used. Now, the legal opinion is that it can still be expressed in our opinion. There is no equivalent application that can be legally justified. However, we do not want to say that other cities are doing things that need to be done. There are a few reasons for this being in Engelwood. First, we are not a big rural area, but there is a misconception about it. In a recent study, it was found that most data centers are actually located in metropolitan or micropolitan areas, and very few rural communities need it. One thing, in my opinion, is that data centers were a big problem in the beginning of this whole thing. They are getting smaller. There are still big opportunities, but there are two major changes in the development of data centers. One, they can operate a little smaller than before. They can operate using a lot of water. It can be used again, but this is like a water tank. One of the previous problems was that it used a lot of water to cool it down, because it creates a lot of heat. How they worked is not common in all data centers, but they are now introducing all the water into the cooling system once. Moreover, they don't turn off the water or leave it outside. At that time, there is still a lot of water, but the same water is being reused. But we are here to ask you about your views. Okay, let's talk about other authorities. You can see in your pocket that I made it clear that I wanted to hear your opinions. I have not included it as a valid option, but this is what most other cities are doing. If I don't do this properly, I will put it in front of you as a legitimate option. That's what a moratorium does. We have the opportunity to use moratoriums like a temporary term in development. In the case of protection, it is a complete lie. The fact that other cities have made it a success is also beneficial to us. It's not just a joke. It may not be a zoning decision. It may not be a decision about how we want it to be. We have an opportunity to see how cities do this for us and how they handle it. And we are developing them as data centers. Because, as we have seen, they have grown very fast. Because they have a very high need. But to decide whether to accept a strong government for this, this gives us confidence. How will it be? Can we do it with any intention? We don't want to make any decisions. But don't deny it. It's just to make sure you all know that it's not an option here. But moratoriums are an option. Alma did it for two years, Broomfield for 18 months, and Denver for one year. And allowed it to be used in Hayden Farms. They also imposed restrictions on the use of medicines. And it would be nice to see what other different restrictions cities are using. If it is water, if it is medicine, what is the specific interest of a municipality in managing the use of medicine? And the sound. One thing in my mind is that instead of using it for other agricultural uses, try not to create this system that creates more industry needs. Therefore, if this system is very calm, if you are using a lot of medicine and a lot of water for other agricultural uses, you can only stop. I think it will be in the private sector. Therefore, we have to pay attention to what we are controlling, how we are controlling it, and to what extent we are exploiting it. A hyperscale data center was built along with OOM. This is not about the city of Englewood. I don't know if we have land as a hyperscale data center. After a six-month moratorium on the monument, Oak Creek accepted a permit to establish a permanent zoning. One of the options that Oak Creek has started to take more seriously is a permitting permit. We can get involved in the development. and if we are interested in the use of water, it may be an opportunity for the developer to work with us on any specific parts of a data center. Water use, energy use, and sound are what I learned from them. It is the foundation of my speech. If you have any other questions, I would like to open it up for you to discuss. I know that this is a common problem. However, there will be more hyperscale facilities. This is a big development that brings in a lot of work during the actual development of those data centers. After that, nothing else. But we can talk about our strong interest in it. and other administrative options, we will not allow it to be implemented. And, again, it would be appropriate to suspend the CET Council's guidance and continue without implementing it. However, if the director does not approve the opinion of the staff, the status of the zoning code, and if the director does not approve it, it is not allowed to allow non-implementation. It is equivalent to the services provided by the Community Development Department. The main thing behind it is that it is done according to the law, and the services provided are not illegal. And it goes through that appeal process. Also, if the developer who has not properly used the Director's Owning Code can make a fair statement, then it will only be called out. We spoke to him in his opinion as Community Development Director Brad Power. I don't think there is a proper use of using community development and data centers. Then we can implement and implement in all districts or in some districts. As I said, we have to pay close attention to the fact that community protection and relief are directly linked at the heart of the resistance movement. If we have more control, it is better to treat this as a reasonable justification. We can do that. But it is an attempt to justify the actions taken by an interpreter in the context of an interpreter. So, if we are talking about the best possible solution, or if it is provided in some districts, it will tell us how we feel about our agricultural fields and what their future looks like. If our voices, water, and medicine are the same in agricultural fields, it is a theory, and we can explain it. Otherwise, should it be provided in agricultural fields as some cities have done for you? Then another option will be implemented and a voluntary use permit will be required. The fact that these specific parts of a data center are clearly regulated is the reason for our desire and the desire of the public. Apart from the general question of what you want to do here, this is another question. If it is one cup, what are the expectations we have? These are questions that I think we will have to answer without measuring. What are the expectations we have about data centers? But if we know them in a measured manner, it will help us when we measure a cup. If we have a limit to healthy drinking water, it becomes a prohibitive thing. This is what I found out. If you need, we can go back. But that's just water, energy, and sound. Now, a guide from all of you. What is your view? On the one hand, what is the public opinion about your data centers and uses? On the other hand, what is the public opinion about your data centers and uses? Um, pinne, oru planning, zoning commission enne nilayil ningalude prathike veekshanakonil ninne munnotu pokan etto mujithamaya margam enthaana. Um, adhu nirvajikkaade viduka, adhine nirvajikyuga, chila allengil ella zone zillagalilum parimitha pedithuka, kap allengil veendum moratoram. If we run a moratorium, other cities will be able to do so for two years. And I don't think it makes much sense to do this for six months, like some cities have done. We want to see how other cities are handling this, and we want it to be as profitable as possible. And I think it will be a good moratorium for six months to two years. But if it is your choice, I will take it to the city council and we will take it to the city council. They will be in charge of deciding whether they think it is right. If there are no questions, I will go ahead and open it.
Okay, or we can go with Nohium. Umm, Appol, or Vies. A convenience store is accepted in the tech section. and it goes through a process of deciding whether their zoning code is appropriate or not. And, if you know why you need to file a case, or if you are a representative of a data center developer, and if you need to file a case on what use it has in our code, what do you think is the closest thing in our code? I hear that you don't think there is anything, but what do you think is the closest legal and constitutional provision in our country? That's a good question. And because of that, most of our code uses are very large.
And because of that, in that agricultural sector, agricultural consumption is the closest from a staff point of view. How did we implement those issues? The reason why it is said that it is not working within those limits is not only the description. It is also a common physical or behavioral condition. Data centers are actually a condition. They are different from other independent agricultural services in the city. Moreover, when looking at the description about us, it is Section 16 March 1. When this is done, there is a list of recommendations that the director needs to review. And the first one is about scale, impact, and operations. That's how we looked at it. We reviewed all the items that the data centers and JAXA talked about, and we decided that it didn't work in that use.
And we can start with the general questions of the people first, how this should be implemented independently. It can be general thoughts or thoughts about data centers. You can continue to input it in your personal options. That's right.
That's why I said, things have been implemented here, next to me is Aami, then Brenda. Questions I... Right. I feel like the sound of a faucet, but it will be Malini. How does this affect the earth or the atmosphere? This is one of my questions. This is one of my wishes. I don't know if there are any studies on this. But I haven't done any research on medicinal plants. One of the qualities of a morator is that it is very new. The data centers that we want to control today are not the data centers that we tried to control a year ago. They won't be the same data centers that we tried to control two years ago. Therefore, it takes two hours to develop a scientific science and two hours to develop a scientific science. It takes a little time to measure the data about it. Okay. Yes. I think the reason is how it affects the earth. Year. Yes. David. I would like to know a few details about this. I think of two things. One, do you have a data center in the Metro Englewood? When I looked at it, I thought some things were special about the airport. That is, do you know if we think it is Englewood or not? The other thing is, but if not, can it be called the underground metro part of Englewood? Are there any researches for that? Is that what inspired it, or is it trying to move forward without any real research so far?
Oh, if Colin is wrong, then so be it. But there are no data centers that want to develop here. And the next thing that comes up is that there is a lot of aurora and a lot of metro around. Again, when we look at the aurora, there are some of Englewood's characteristics that differentiate us from the developing Earth. And now, no one is interested in getting stuck in our door. I want to build a data center. Oh, if there was a system or moratorium, it would have had to move forward. Colin, you talked about data centers. You understand that they come to build the rightful people.
Is there a reality related to them? How does it work? Is there anything that we are losing? Is there anything that the city has to offer in a way that they can survive? I am not biased in this matter, but according to my understanding, they switch off their servers in between, and the cost of doing so is very expensive. Therefore, that use is important, but it is based on their actions. I am not biased again. Therefore, the cost of those like Google is not like you know. It's not like they're making a certain amount of money out of their money, we can use it or something like that. I understand. I think it's right to say that coal is the reality. It's the servers. Right.
That's why in the news, I don't think we're going to the data centers because there are cities that offer great opportunities and we're going there. Yes. I had one thing on those roads. This is the cost of this space.
It may be profitable to know the real income, but it does not create a business. It does not produce a service. And, you know, if you know where they are, we have the best agricultural fields. If we allow them to go to a certain extent, they will go there. And, you know that there will be a lot of useful fruits from other agricultural fields in those areas. And, I doubt what those trade-offs will be. And then I had another question. Do you know what a data center is for some codes, like the National Electric Code and the MLEX? It's about 800 feet away from a building. You know that we have to bring a data center according to how others do these things normally. So I think it's important. And then you know that energy and megawatt power will often make it difficult to build a new wind farm.
And very important concerns about the overall structure and grid structure.
And I believe that Excel has the power to do so. If you know of any such applications, please let us know or avoid them. Even so, it is a great pleasure for me. Only to talk about it, it is not a favor or a rejection.
Grids are much more important than others. They have the potential to carry out security in the medical infrastructure. Sometimes we have seen them carrying out security in the government. Because they are very high-level users. We have a lot. There are questions.
Yes. Yes. No, sir.
Then I only had one last, last point. And I can wait for anyone first. Whether it was Eric or David, you are Eric, we can come. Okay, then I think it's important for us to have a data center for Aaron. I see a lot of opportunities to set up 10 to 20 servers in your own capacity. It connects these servers to other people who have servers in their own capacity. So, I don't know if it is something that we can see or something that needs to be examined, or whether we are talking about data centers with all the servers on top of each other. And, for those who know this, it is a common question. But doesn't it make a big difference if a data center operator has the ability to be close to a metro area? What I meant was, the power transmission is far away, so they don't want to go out because it will cost them more money to get there. But is there any other reason for them to be with us, other than a flight or a general matter? Since that difference is between metro and non-metro areas in Tamil, when you build them in rural areas, the data that you pop-up is located in 97.5% metro and metropolitan areas of all data centers in the US. In places like Englewood, especially due to the new location, near power centers and hubs. Michelle
Some of this is just an explanation, but I think it's changing very quickly now. I've heard that some data centers are actually doing things like that miniature nuclear thing. That's why their own power is tied up. I've heard that VioMing is getting a lot of them. Because they have the power, I don't know if they have to do the business they need. That's the best way to say it. No matter what we do, I think we should make it a little boring. Because, It is changing very fast. That is, even if you think about it so many years ago, most of the places that used to be an apartment had to have so many electric charging stations. Now electric charging, you know, hybrids and other things have gone wrong. So I think we should pay attention to making things very organized. Because it's going to change very fast. It will be unusual.
Then we can go to coal and then to Brent. So, I think, is there a limit to XL? This is built on the basis of that. Double quote. For our water. Do you know that we have our own water? Do they have any measures to limit the use or discharge? Do any other industries have these restrictions? I know that there is a limit to metal gold being discharged to malignancy plants. Have any of our other colleagues installed any other types of sideboards that can be used in these applications? I think I can test this a little more from the water reservoir, but I believe that there are some restrictions on how much water can be used. So let's take a closer look at that. If you know that it can be handled by Excel from the energy reservoir, that is not a problem. And that's what I experienced earlier. Jackson, I don't know if you have anything to add. So, as far as the machines are concerned, they haven't stopped growing in Colorado. They've built a lot of data centers here and in the metro. They've re-established medical facilities and solved medical problems. They've created renewable water resources and solved water problems. That's how they've dealt with those things correctly, or they've saved money on it. But I won't say that I don't believe in those things in front of a local organization. Branda.
Right. Okay, for the sake of that, my current role is to bring fiber optics to these data centers. In fact, we started this week. My job is to bring fiber optics to the core site center at 49th place in the race. It's a new data center. So I can answer some of these questions. In the case of Vaithithi, you need permission to enter the network from Excel. And they are upgrading our Vaithithi line. You have seen that. A utility substation in the north and a tech substation in the south are coming. And such a small one can't be found in a big hyper rail in Englewood. They need their own substations. It has a lot of underground facilities, railroads and rivers. So we can't see anything like Aurora. And if we see anything, he's right. There are data centers in Denver right away. You may not know that. They've been there for a while. And we get a one with a market size of about two floors for many people. For sure, the HGSE sound is a backup generator for Anglewood. When we say that Xcel Energy can be turned off for some reason, that backup generator will operate. At that time, there is that sound, then they test those generators, those generators all the time, we need it too, that's why I need something like a cup, that's fine. But if we do not want to legislate a third party consultant as an independent consultant, whenever we want. That is an answer. We will not allow it. But we will have a consultant who rules the city. We do not want that third party to rule the data center's own consultant. So that's one thing. Because it's very complicated. This is complicated. Planning is very complicated. I can't answer everything. I know a lot about it. Um, shabdam oru valiya kaaryam ana, rasagaramaya kaaryam vallam ennada closely loopu vallatthe kurchan ningala chindikunnu undaagam. Ade, avara pokunnada angana yaana, data centergala ippola denvaru vallatthinja oru shathamanam. Le thala matrami ubyogikunnullu. Adu nalla kaaryam anna parayana avila. Nee vijarikunna itra mosham alla idhanu nyan parayennu. Theerchiyaayum, maaliniyavum shabdavum paristhithi neendranangalum unda. Appol. You know, we can come up with an idea of a kind of freedom, or we can make them agree to help us add this together. Oh, oh, one more thing. I won't talk. I'm making a promise. Um, a moratorium won't be a bad idea. Like we see, what did you say? Elma. Elma, what are you doing? It feels nice. Um. There is a major concern about the proximity of all the municipalities around us. This development will begin when agriculture finds the path of the least resistance and the society of the least resistance. At that time, it will give a hint about my wish that we can talk within a minute. But, not only the features that they can bring, but also what others are doing, how to do it and how to do it, I think it should be considered. Where is the development centered?
Even then, if we run a moratorium, do we still have the ability to say whether it is a data center or not? What I mean is, is there a possibility of a disaster there? I understood that you don't think Brad is in a position where they are, but should we get a new community director, or should we go to him, or should we change his mind? If we do a moratorium, it is possible for us to avoid the possibility of any kind of violence, whether it is to try to stop it or to make it more permanent. Therefore, I believe that you are raising the assumption that the use of the possibility of violence is not to be stopped, to continue on that path, and to not to do the moratorium. If we run a moratorium, it is very unexpected. We argue that anything that can be counted as a data center is under that moratorium. Therefore, it is more likely to be a moratorium. Yes, to do that, we have to determine what we are currently opposing. Right? David And I'm trying to understand what the actual rules of standing next to you are, right? Because we've talked about a lot of negative things. I think the official meaning is bad, bad, and bad. Do you know that? I can't say otherwise. But can you tell us what your qualities are? For example, Why is it good for you to have at least one or two miles of distance from your home when you are not sure if these arrangements have been carried out? Then you will not have to worry about the sudden sound of your voice. Alternatively, it can be said that the arrangement will cost a lot. What is the actual cost of keeping it close? This is the fourth argument. There are arguments against everything I am saying. They are called good people because they have a lot of values about their development. They have a lot of courage to protect it in medical facilities and other ways in the society. If there is a lot of agricultural land that is not used, it is a use that benefits the city, and it is more economical than the stuff that is lying around. I think this is more of a fair argument than what data centers allow. In the beginning, there is a need for jobs. But if there is another resistance, I think there is a need for security and protection after it is built. That is very little. But if they are the ones who argue, and then I want to allow them to do so, it may be that they are changing fast. I think they are not as efficient as they used to be. Oh, then we can forgive your fear. Water is not such a big problem. It is much smaller than it was in the old days. It may not be as big as we thought it would be. At first, it may not be a problem for the MN Road, but it may be an obstacle. Oh, by the way, I can see that you asked if this is the reason for the construction, right? This has been put forward by the construction department. Yes, the committee.
David, I wanted to change from what you said. Now that I've taken a look at it, when I searched on Google, I understood one thing. Property tax will be earned by creating business opportunities, but it can be temporary. Sometimes developers say that money should be spent on upgrading roads. But what they haven't thought of is that they are not stopping them. That is, they are not calling the police, no one is calling the fire force, no, you know, such a thing. So this is one of the high profits, but they are not creating traffic, or there is no such thing. So that's one thing that came to my attention. So about the benefits,
Brenda, yes, I thought about where a data center could go. As an engineer, I thought about this. Because many thought that the golf course would go down from Oxford to the Tech area. I looked at that area on a map and it is the least likely place to go because it is very close to the highway, river, railroad. If it's in the middle, no. They won't hurt anyone. But, like in Windermere or Tonga, I think we have a desire that they will go to an extra-industrial area near the houses. We. I think it's very unlikely that this will happen. But Devils Advocate should play and be ready for anything. Corn. Yes, I think you know. Water is energy.
I don't know what the sound is. This is the loudest sound I've ever heard. Whether it's in HVAC systems or in general sound, I don't know if it's that different from a power substation or something else. That is, those things are happening. But I haven't gone near a data center. I've heard and seen it now. So I think the sound is what makes sure that we're always going to build something. Yes. Okay, can we talk about these options through our opinions? Okay, then one option. Don't do anything. Leave it unattended. And I'll tell you right away that I'm sick of it. Because it's still only in one person. That person is now Brad Powers. But that doesn't mean that it will always be that person, and it's only a person that stops it from being re-attended. The other thoughts about option 1, David, are related to what you said about option 1.
Okay, then I agree with option 1. And I think they did a complete protest against what was not there in the first slide. And do you have any opinion on that? No protest is needed. But a time has come. Okay, that's a moratorium. We can move on to that. But I think it's more than that.
That is, I feel that it is limiting our growth. And this industrialization and this agriculture are constantly growing. So, I am in favor of it. Other thoughts, Deva. Yes, just like that. I feel that the main reason why something like this is always completely destroyed in an agricultural field is because it is green. Because if it is pure, good and useful within five years, why do we want to deny it? Yes. The next option is that some districts should be banned and some should be banned. So I think this will be banned and banned. But some districts can be banned as well. Thoughts? Yes, I think it is the second most likely option. Let's get back to that, because if I say the truth, I am heading towards the one that I think is a great option. Yes, it can actually be, that's what I mean. They can talk about both, but a conditional use permit is required. Yes, only thoughts about that option. To tell you the truth, I think this is the way the report was written. Just like how it was announced in the previous report, this was a kind of tea. It feels like there is tea in this staff. I think we are talking, or there is an option called a moratorium. It is not clearly described in the report. But, I am thinking about the way it was announced. And, as you know, this is the most, and a kind of a foreshadowing. Are those thoughts about the option? Wait, what was that? And what is the use of it? Continue to ask for a conditional use permit for it. Can you make it a little clearer? I mean, of course, everything is not written in this section. But if you have to ask what the benefits of a conditional are, Don't make it as if you can vote on the basis of how you feel. You need to write in advance what the conditions are for the conditional use permit. Um, so I think one part of it is like this. You know, yes, from where we are now, this seems like a great option. Um, but that doesn't give us a solution. Because we still have to go through the process of writing what the conditions are. Then you will know how to imagine how it will be. I am happy. I will start. Why are there so many problems? Let us say that we are passing through a process that brings a third party. A method that allows us to measure obstacles and barriers. We are planning to create a cup for data centers in 2026. How useful would it be if we could take a conceptual data center a year later and develop a fourth secret problem that we hadn't thought of before? From now on, there will be more problems related to tarpum, but according to a certain process, our own in-house medicine will not be guaranteed in quantifiable regulations, but there will be more coal. No, I think he gave a good answer to that. That's a very good question, and you know, if you all want to go into that direction, we have to pay close attention to what other cities are doing. Since they use a lot of water, I know that they have passed a system that says that they cannot use drinking water for cooling. It is a system that can be implemented. And it is one that we can actually use. And that's why we have to be really careful about what those systems are. And I don't have a specific answer for that today. Can I follow up? Yes. Go. No. Go. Yes. We. When we conduct a meeting on household chores, we should pay attention to the two aspects of this Commission, not to name what we like or dislike, but rather what are the characteristics of that profession. And we should control those characteristics. Therefore, I encourage you to think about whether there is another option that we think is most suitable for data centers, whether it is light industrial or heavy industrial. We make sure that we see what we want for any business that continues to operate below that part of the code, for water use, for medical use, for basic facilities, and what we want. Data centers should not be special, right? The same problems can affect many other types of businesses. Therefore, I would like to see that we introduce data centers in one department and continue to operate all businesses in that department. Instead, don't try to shape anything special for data centers. Yes, no, I agree with you. I think there is a big difference between data centers. This industry is constantly growing. Therefore, include them in a section that we do not wish to have these elements happen. Yes, but we do not know about some of them. Instead of using water as a source of coolant, they can use another chemical that is not in the EPA list. This will prevent all kinds of unknown and different things about this particular chemical. In fact, there will be other chemicals that are growing rapidly in the atmosphere. Even if you know that you can satisfy or fulfill what you want, it can be a different process of working towards a goal. Yes, that's the thing. It's very difficult for us to fulfill it, or as Jackson said, if we do it after six months, they'll be out of that box. Another example of a call-in. I am a little disappointed that it makes unnecessary adjustments in light industrial matters. For example, they can't use a voice cooler, or how many voice coolers can you use? You know, there are a few things we need to think about. What should we do if a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a group of people say that they can't use a voice cooler in Aurora and a Then, I, I, I thought it was a moratorium. I expected it to be here. I hadn't written it down. Yes, forgive me. I tried to make it clear that it wasn't in your staff report in the beginning. We didn't put it there because we didn't think it was a zoning decision. As we talk more about it, we have a lot of things to do from a time when we have a grace period. What I meant was, it's like an auction that's not listed here. I think the reason I suggested this is because of how fast this industry is changing. This industry, this industry, there is no need for things to make it fast. You know, it's like that. Unbelieverism and breakneck speed are always changing. Then, another thing I pointed out was about what other municipalities are doing about local specialties and about knowing about it. If you don't know, and if we accept a special action now, it can be seen as the least resistance, and it will be the reason for unnecessary specialties. Then, as I said a minute ago, I would like to allow a moratorium for a certain time. We will inspect what other municipalities are doing and what agriculture is doing. We are preparing to make a big decision in the next 18 months. Yes, I agree with everything you say. I think the best way to move forward is to see what the Constitution is about. Because it's a long time. Before, they didn't even have a closed-loop cooling system. Now, they have it. I understand that water should be transferred to that closed-loop. However, some other things are happening due to the economic crisis. You want to keep something like anifreeze in your car. So, when we allow the Constitution to be implemented, we need a moratorium. Let's see what problems we see today. But when the Constitution is implemented, we can see new problems. David, yes, I meant to say something similar to the moratorium. Because if we tell the truth, no one really knows what we are talking about, right? So, we use two years to understand more. But within two years, what has changed from today to tomorrow will change again and again. So, is there any way to prevent moratoriums? I think more things will be new within a year. Then, do we really understand how the moratorium will help? Isn't it that the goal of the law is to ensure that people are allowed to do whatever they want?
Michelle. Yes, I had a desire. I will also accept a moratorium. Um, do you know who she is? I have heard about the benefits. She wants to be hot. She likes things that are hot and cold. Then, Um, I think she will be in the outer space as a person. Because that is the coldest place. But I think a moratorium would be great. Um, it is the most beneficial and useful thing for us to re-initiate the city council.
Okay, I think it's the beginning of a trial. We're not doing it for a month. We're doing a trial on this. This was just a study. Okay, when I saw the case number, I thought we were making a decision.
Okay, and if you have any other questions about this, you can ask us. That's all I need from you. I thank you for your time. Okay, do we have to do a trial to see how long the moratorium is? We're not doing a trial. I mean... Okay, I mean...
If you have two years, we can talk about it.
Like you said earlier, I don't think the six-month moratorium will reach us anywhere. Yes, two years or more.
I think so. Yes, 18 to 24 months. What? What? Everyone stood up.
Then? Does anyone have a strong opinion? I think one year is not too short.
I feel that we are going down a lot in the next two years. I don't know if we are losing anything again in the next 8 to 18 months. But, you know, I hear that some of these places are helping our schools and others are helping us. So, I have two thoughts about them. You know, if there are good things that we are losing, I want to make sure that we are not doing it for a long time. Look carefully at what the other municipalities around us are doing. We are also trying to ensure and encourage them in their moratoriums. Eric, if we set up a moratorium for two years, will the moratorium be able to go back? Yes, something like that. Okay, Michelle.
Yes, Erin, three of you are asking what is happening in other municipalities and more details about such things. We don't have to bring a specialist or anything else. If it goes too fast, it will ruin the money. So, yes,
I don't think we need a specialist to decide on a time limit for this part of the moratorium. But when the moratorium ends, I will do my best to provide more. Okay, do you have any other thoughts? Okay, okay, thank you very much for your attention. Um, let's move on to the staff's choice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you all. Thank you.
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