Veterans Affairs Commission - Regular Meeting

Thursday, March 19, 2026
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Government Body
Veterans Affairs Commission
Meeting Type
Veterans Affairs Commission
Location
El Dorado County, CA
Meeting Date
March 19, 2026

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Are you back in? We're back in. Try it again.

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Can you invite her?

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You guys can go ahead. Eight for forty. Ready? Oh, okay. As you're saying was as saying, I have a list here.

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Anyway, It's hot. It's so you'll close it up. You just look at it and say, that is. So and then it was great to see this. So because of that, and it was put on by the CST data and the staff of the LD1 pills, made a statement at the board of Curtis that's staff. Everything in from my account. Yes. No. You're such a granddaughter. That's not my calendar.

1:34 – 2:130

I met one on one with Senator Alarovia. This got still quote account team services issues as well. Okay. That was there. But if you didn't have another time, you can't see. Yeah. She must get back to you. Yeah. Invited supervisor and code enforcement to attend a meeting. Code enforcement appreciation plan because we have issue with a lot of seniors living in that area.

2:13 – 2:410

And so we had them come and had a great party with them. And then I discussed the of the county senior programs with the home health nurse that was seeing my husband. Mhmm. And she reported that she had, like, two more programs because has actually known that much. So we sit down and talk about those for a while.

2:41 – 3:110

And so far, she's been able to bring on some seniors, and she especially mentioned the. It's appreciated. And I introduced a volunteer to the county who's now delivering meals, and she's discussing other services. The topic. And let's see.

3:12 – 3:430

As CSL, senate vice chair of committee, I sent comments to the CSL about the bills of the. She's asked I've been asked to support that tonight, so I have put on that. And I sent a report a support letter to the board and all supervisors to file twenty sixteen Dash o 207. And the last thing I did, I won't forget, I don't our new ADHD staff member to manage the CST senior center,

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And it was a wonderful piece.

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Absolutely wonderful. And then she's been in the. And and then we did. Staff to that early open the door. Let's see. Oh, at

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the end. Wow. So you've been busy.

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Linda is on my list next, but she's not here, which reminds me, I didn't oh, I neglected to take.

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So let's see. Roger. No. That's not here.

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Maybe John Steven? No. Not here. No. Larry. And Larry? Yes. Steve. Steve. And, yeah, no Ray. Alright. So that's Who do you have it for? 123678. Yes. Alright. So Roger is not here, so no report there. Liz. Hi.

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I spoke to Laurie again at our monthly meeting. Everything's going swimmingly. She's getting pains for being short in her term. She has a the replacement that she's recommending since running for her position, and I have been introduced to that person as being her representative of the commission with the suggestion that we would I went on its web page. Introduced myself as it worked to that person, so we'll see how it goes.

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I had occasion to speak with some elderly people at one of the meetings that I attend for another organization. And the consensus was that they had family members who would attend the club on, not on a regular basis, but two times a week perhaps, or intermittently, and they were thrilled. They loved the club. Their relative enjoyed going there, and they were stimulated. And then I talked to one of the guys that I swear to answer with who has a band, and they were playing at the senior center just recently.

6:20 – 6:414

And he said they had a great time. He's got a little jazz band, three three piece jazz band. And he said they enjoyed themselves very much doing that for the club. So there was a lot going on in that world. I think that's basically that's a lot. Yeah. That's it. K.

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That's great. Okay. Yay.

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First of all, I'd like to apologize to everybody for when the vaccine sis. But, unfortunately, I

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don't know. It's

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been a bit crazy crazy up up there. There in. I personally have been working at the other end that Jim and I and we discussed in the last meeting with Brookline, the coalitions for housing for seniors. I think my efforts going forward, we're gonna let the players work on the community part of getting everybody organized for the new senior center and working with the vet and everybody. And then Brooke and I are sending our attention further to the coalitions and the trust grants for funding for housing for seniors.

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That's my new goal. Well, I it's not my new goal, but it's my primary goal now. I'm gonna let everybody else fight it out. We'll just I'm

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just gonna hit that and

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just direct. But that is going very well. We are in the process of working with several different we call it one's a coalition, one's another trust, state trust, which is does grants. The only drawback that I'm and I and I knew it wasn't a drawback. I knew it was gonna happen. But they're vetting people now. They're vetting programs rather than just gifting out and giving people money. It doesn't hold for all

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that. So I'm safe inside of it. So I'm in good standing, and that's where I'm carrying this over into and not just for Tahoe, but for our whole county. So I'm doing this all, not just for our town. It's funny. That's my goal. That's where I'm at. That's what I'm doing. And so far, I haven't been scanned. Mhmm. And we are on their list. Alright. Sounds good. Thank you. So, Jim, you have

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some properties in Mo'Nane. Yeah.

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It's been a multigenerationals in our Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Right. And Steve is next, but here. So is anybody online?

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No. We we the link is not working. Oh, okay. So we're trying to do that, and that also impacts our guest speakers. So we are trying to fix the problem.

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Might have some in Julia, I have some information on Steve. Let me see

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if I can log in.

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Okay. So John. Is not here either. Okay. Well, I

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just sent all the commissioned reports. What do you

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have about to speak? I'm seeing

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if I received something. I might have gotten an update yesterday.

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Yeah. Jasmine sent that he sent an update. He does have okay. So let me see if I could find Okay.

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I found it really quickly. Well, we can

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get him on here.

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Can send

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Here's copy the invite link. Can you send that so it's copied? Can you send it? To Lindsay

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and Lindsay and see if they get it.

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Please see. I had to send them.

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Steve's tape. Okay. Yeah. So what's your email? Okay. I didn't know that. Email. I'm gonna go with the Just because we have Outlook.

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Yeah. So what I have from Steve said, providing an update, he says, as the commission is reviewing priorities and goals, both old and new, it is important to acknowledge our relationship with the city of Placerville and the ability to have meaningful conversations regarding issues of mutual interest and concern. I recently communicated with our city manager, Dave Warren, who was appointed as a city manager in October. I am fortunate to have known Dave for many years, and I believe we will have an open ear on how much we can work together on tackling concerns and supporting our seniors. The city cares for and desires only good things for our senior population as, of course, we do.

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Unlike the city, the commission is in a position to focus almost solely on our seniors At a time where budgets are tight and cuts continue to be an everyday conversation, it is ever more important to make sure that our seniors are not forgotten in the discussion. I believe we have and will continue to have a good working relationship with the city of Placerville and hope we will use this positive resource to help us be effective. Maybe I can. I

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think they're neighbors.

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That's great. You sit in the apple tree. Well, I think in the future, it's nice to have a written report too in future if somebody can't make it and they know they can't make it. It'd be nice to have, like, our even a

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written report sent to us so we kinda know what's going on and some exceptions. Okay.

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What comment? I need to read something. We have the commissioners at large.

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Right. So

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here it is. Yeah.

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Oh, okay. That's me too funny.

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Well, you and me in. Okay.

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Some of you may know I participate in the, you know, the tax counselor prep services. I do appoints these IDs.

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I was gonna send it to our speaker.

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Garden Valley. Yeah. If you send it

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to Friday, get out of these country.

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Oh, this one. Okay.

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Yesterday, one of the

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I mean, add

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library assistant at Georgetown.

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and I was just we were just chatting as I'm going through it, and she wondered what else what else did I do. So I served on the agent just so I, you know, I called out and got your brochures in the library

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To to hand out. And so

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chatted a little bit on that. But just the volunteering for AARP brings me into contact with many of our seniors, and we have 20 year olds come in. And in fact, yesterday, it was an 18 year old come in to have. So it's a wide variety of folks for sure. But this morning, when I made one of my reminder calls for the appointments for tomorrow, Pollock finds the woman, well, this is her second year, and her husband, she really expressed gratitude for any services, particularly tax services, that don't cause them anything because they're on such a limited income.

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So that's the title. Anyway, it's it's another, if you will, very endemic. I can touch with you.

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And stay peaceful. Peace. And you may have driven in. By any chance, have the senior services brochures sitting near the tax cited tables? No. We don't. Would that be allowed? Oh, it would

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it would be. It would I don't see that it wouldn't be allowed. We need to pack up. In other words, each after Let me put probably just send it out. Use the fire station. They volunteered their conference room, the fire station in Garden Valley. So everything has to be packed up. It's their training room packed up, and and but that's so so small that we could, you know, we could easily have those brochures available.

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Yeah. We should make sure that tomorrow my clients.

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Okay. If you could just I'll give them to you before or not. I can I can take it?

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Tomorrow at the senior center in Plasterville. They come in the back door, they don't necessarily walk through.

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Have the new brochures come out.

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We don't have the new generic senior services brochures. We're making the order right now, but we do have plenty of we have copies that can tide you over, but we also have plenty of new senior day care, the club brochures. So we have some of those that we would be happy to share with you. And, typically, they have a table outside the room in Placerville, and my team usually will lay stuff on that table that might be important for our program.

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It makes sense to do it at all of the AARP Yeah. Site. But it primarily seniors, or it was in Illinois Hill when I was there.

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It is mostly most of the individuals are seen. Yeah. But it it's a wide it is a wide range of. There's no limitation on age or or income. I do see individuals with no income, and then we see individuals that have several $100,000 worth of transactions on their brokerage. So Right. Yeah. Yeah.

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But I think when people see the word AARP, they say, oh, as for old people.

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You know?

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That's what I could think.

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Yeah. No worries.

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And you think it could be, you know, like, $80.50

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or 55 and up per day. No. There's there's no limitation. I guess.

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Again, did you see the times people had spent with their We asked to bring in their last time. And when they it's a paid fund, I've never seen anything below $200. You know, what a primary tax return. Okay. All of this. I never see anything below $200 on on a tax return. 200 to 500 is a routine cost. Any of these charged by form?

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So if you have a more complex form Yeah. No.

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Thank you. Then I guess it's me.

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Let's see. I have a few things. I I actually met with the candidate that Lori Carlin has recommended to yes. Great. I served with him on another board. So I know him pretty well, and but I met with him separately just to find out what his priorities are. And one of them before he even knew that I was on the commission for aging is senior housing. So I'm like, oh, okay. That's good. That's a good answer. Great. So I met with him. And we we can Greg Clark. Greg Clark. Yeah. He's a Okay.

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Local Four four or five people running for the Oh, okay. Position.

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Okay. Yeah. Ted Gaines is one of them. Yeah. Some woman. And a couple people that I didn't know.

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Yes. Okay.

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Last I checked, I think

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it was four or somebody. And I looked this morning.

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I thought it was four. Four? Okay. Because she's not in. K. I also talked to a woman from American River Conservancy, and I'm working with her on another project. And she was talking about how they they connect with senior population to get them more connected with nature, basically. And they she goes out and talks to groups, and she just

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had a a talk with

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had an eschaton with the group. And so I didn't know if that's something that might we might wanna work with her. She said she'd be happy

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to come in and and be a

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guest speaker at some point. So that's that on our list.

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And let's see. And I listened online to about half of a TAC meeting on Zoom. Yeah. One of the interesting things was they had a a group that went to Japan. And, you know, I I make a lot of trips to Japan because my son lives there.

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And I guess if they were sponsored by, I don't know if it's a group in Japan to to see how, like, senior facilities are run and kind of how that works, and it was it was interesting to me because I know just a little bit about that. But they were also having a group come over from Japan. I think it was to San Diego at some point and kind of see how you know, see what we do here. But in Japan, it's different because they they really wanna get people home kind of in their own spaces, their own environments, but

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they also have a lot more from my experience, they have a lot more

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multigenerational families. So I know so many that have two or three generations in

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the same home even though

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they have small homes. Mhmm.

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But they just kind of take care of all the generations. You know, kind of a last resort is

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to be in some kind of a.

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So and the other thing that I was really thinking about is how how do we do more outreach, kinda use what we have, because I wanna make sure that we can reach the next generation of people that are seeking services. So I did some little bit of work online just to see if I type in this, you know, what am I gonna get? And so it was I was looking at if I type in my senior services El Dorado County, and it just popped up with all the right things. So I was I was happy to see that because it's really the the search engine that is gonna get people to where they need them to be to find the right services because of the personal experience. Know how extremely frustrating it is to need services and not

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to have them and not know who provides what. So that's kind of something that's on my heart. I think that was about it.

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So I'm sorry. I forgot one more thing that I did. Yeah. No. Go ahead. There's a new state sponsored program that helps people of low income be placed in senior living facilities. It's called and I'm I'm sorry. I don't remember the name of it right now. But I spoke to the ombudsman who works with Hyundai Palmaro and their memories assisted living area. And these basically, what it is is people of low limited income could apply to the state program.

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You have to be medical eligible. And you can apply to this program, and they will subsidize your living in a senior facility like Conte Palmyra or a memory care center, and it's a new program. Then I spoke to the people at Conte Palmeiro, and they're saying that they cannot go into the independent living side, but in the assisted living side or the memory care, they can go in there, and but they have a limited capacity. They will not fill their entire community with these people. They will accept x number of people.

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But it's a thing where you get subsidized so that you could live in a senior community. And I was looking into more information on that. I don't have more information at this time, but he was curious that the knew about it. And then because we have a friend who just looked into Ponte, we were asking about that as well. So I'll get the name for it next time,

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and we will Okay. Look at it.

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But it's a new state thing. Okay. That sounds a good a

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good program. And we were talking about having the ombudsman speak at some point. So that that would be good if we could get that person to tell us what to do and how to get rid of trouble, what's out there.

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Okay. Now we're doing public comments, and this is where I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be saying. Do I read something?

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Normally.

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Yes. Mean

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Yes. It's good to read it.

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If we have any.

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Now taking public comment on the chairperson and commissioner reports. Individuals will have three minutes to address the commission. Public comment will be taken first from those participating in the meeting room and then by those participating through Zoom. For those participating by Zoom, please make sure you unmute yourself when called in the phone. You are joining the meeting by phone, press 9 to indicate a desire to comment. If you are joining by Zoom, press and raise the hand button to indicate a desired summit. Please voluntarily state your name for the record. There are no public in the room. And,

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yeah, was sitting right there.

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There is no wait. No public comment. No. Yeah. There's no one on the phone. Okay. Yeah.

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I know there are people waiting to get on lines. That might have comments, but they're not There's So we may have to revisit that a little bit.

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Okay. Yeah. When we when we get our tech

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back online, we can allow avocado. Sent.

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Alright. And we also have a guest speaker via Zoom. Do we have that? No. Or We're

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Our Zoom link is not working. Okay. So Okay. We

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apologies. We're trying one last time. And if that doesn't work, then we'll have to reschedule. Okay. Yeah. So I apologize. She gets technology is This is our final attempt, so we should know in a minute.

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Okay. So we will move to the area agency on aging directors report.

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I will be giving the area agency on aging report as the program manager of our area agency on aging. I had mentioned during the last meeting that we were moving the role of director over to Lynette in her executive leadership role. So we've been working closely together to identify how we're working together in these different roles and doing some cross training right now, and we hope it appears seamless to everyone else. But we're off to a great start with this, and it's some great it's really increasing collaboration and conversation. So it's been a nice change for us.

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I always love to start out by talking about where we're at with our staffing. I think the last few months have created quite a few ripples in the area area agency on aging programs. We've had several staff members actually promote out of our programs in the last several months, so we do have a little more vacancies right now on our team than anticipated at this time. But we've been conducting a lot of recruitments and a lot of interviews and are getting ready to make offers on the program coordinator position in Platerville that was filled by Jordan. We are getting, we're conducting references on a recent round of meal site coordinator interviews for Placerville.

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We've also conducted meal site coordinator interviews in South Lake Tahoe for this long standing vacancy that we've had up there and are working on those references, excuse me, in addition to a food services aid position in South Lake Tahoe. And although the senior center in Placerville, the reception function, the reception unit doesn't fall specifically on my team.

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I didn't bring water with me, but excuse me. Oh, perfect.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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But the office assistant physician that works in the reception role at the Placerville Senior Center is vacant. Lily, who was working in that role, promoted out as a program assistant in a different program. We are sorry to lose her, but we did conduct interviews recently, and they've got somebody in background for that position. So we hope to fill that position pretty quickly. And as you're all aware, Rebecca is out on maternity leave, so we'll be without her for a little bit.

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So we're excited to meet the new baby when the time comes. But and luckily for us, she did onboard a new program assistant working in senior services on her team within the month before she left. So we do have someone who started in that position. So we're excited to have Emily Carr with us. She's picking up very quickly and has already proven herself to be an asset of the on team. Do we want to have her speak, or shall I just continue with my

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update? She probably get her while she's there.

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Yeah. I'm asleep. Yeah. K. We have some. So, Demeline, were you going to introduce our guest speaker, Lindsey Barranco?

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Is Lindsey in? I haven't been promoted to host, so I can't see who's in.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah. I am here. I'm here, Jemlyn.

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Oh, hi, Lindsay. Lindsay is with Homebase, and she Homebase is our technical adviser for the Eldorado Opportunity Knocks Continuum of Care. And Lindsay, I'll go ahead and turn it over to you.

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Alright. Thank you. Okay. I'm gonna join as a

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And Lindsay, thank you for your patience with our technical difficulty. I'm really sorry

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about that. No

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problem at all. Alright. Can you all hear me okay?

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We can. We can see

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you. Yep.

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Yay. Okay. Alright. I'm gonna share I'm gonna try to share my PowerPoint. Can you all see that? We can. Yes. Okay. Great. Well, thanks so much.

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Very excited to chat with you all today. I will make sure to kinda keep it brief because I know you all are running potentially a little behind schedule, and I know we want lots of time for discussion. But as Timlin mentioned, I work for Homebase, but I provide support to the Eldorado Continuum of Care. And I thought first before jumping into some of the information about older adults, I would just share a little bit about what the continuum of care is for those of you that are not familiar with it. So the Eldorado County Continuum of Care or, Eldorado Opportunity NOx is really just a group of, community providers, local government, business, law enforcement, all of those people kind of coming together within El Dorado County to address homelessness.

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And the continuum of care kinda lets, all those partners come up with common policies, strategies, and really kind of have a coordinated effort to address homelessness. And it's also a body through which, they can apply for state and federal homeless grants. So, again, lots of partners. There is a continuum of care board that is made up of lots of people from those stakeholders, and then there's other entities that kind of provide different roles. But I'm gonna use the word, continuum of care or COC a lot, so I just wanted to mention that upfront.

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So just jumping right in. Senior homelessness crisis is actually nationally, becoming a challenge for most of the communities. It is actually the fastest growing age group experiencing homelessness in The United States. So nationally, the percentage of people in shelter that were 55 increased 37. So that means the people that are in shelter transitional housing, 37% of them were over, or not sorry.

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Not 37. The amount of people that are 55 in shelter increased 37%. And it the experts estimate that by 2030, the number of older adults experiencing homelessness, nationally will triple. And I just wanted to kinda mention that there's sort of, two primary groups of people that we're talking about when we're thinking about people in homelessness, that are older adults. One are sort of the group of people that have been homeless potentially for a long time, etcetera, and they're just sort of aging.

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And so we have that group of of the population. And then we have a large portion of the population experiencing homelessness that's actually becoming homeless for the first time after the age of 50. So as you can imagine, the needs of those groups, their familiarity with the systems, etcetera may differ greatly. There are a couple of key risk factors for older adults experiencing homelessness. One of those is having a lower income, and oftentimes this is more pronounced in older adults because they're oftentimes on a very fixed income.

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So particularly people that are lower income that have to rely solely on Social Security may be getting an income of less than $1,000 a month. So as you can imagine, it's hard, to sustain housing and all your basic needs. In addition, for older adults, may have health issues or or decline in their health which may make it hard for them to continue to work, so those folks are tend to then be on that very strict fixed income. And finally, just like, you know, all of us, there can be disruptive life events for older adults that can cause, put them at increased risk for homelessness. That can be divorce, death of a spouse, loss of employment, and that can really threaten economic and social resources.

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Some of the other, I think, challenges or, you know, risk factors that are causing this increase in, homelessness in older adults are things like increasing service costs. So whether that's health care, whether that's assisted living, etcetera, those costs are increasing every year. In addition, just nationally, there's limited housing stock that is actually accessible for people that may have mobility needs or other needs because of health issues. Older adults may not have ever accessed public benefits, and this is the first time they're needing to access them. And so trying to do that on your own can sometimes be challenging, particularly now with lots of complicated kind of online applications.

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As I mentioned earlier, there may be limited employment opportunities, whether that's by health or just in general, we know that the workforce tends to sort of discriminate against older adults. A lot of older adults also may experience kind of social isolation, particularly if they've lost, their spouse or they're separated from family members, they're not as mobile and able to kind of get out. And then unfortunately, see an increased risk of victimization, as people age, whether that's sort of being taken advantage of financially or being, a victim of elder abuse. Unfortunately, that is, something that is a challenge for this population as well. So I'll dive a little bit into California generally, but then I'll, talk a lot more about El Dorado County.

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So in California, this is just looking at the, population that's already accessing homeless services. We saw that 40 over 40% of the adult only households who connected with the homeless response system across the entire state of California were over 50, 50 or over even though that's only 34% of the state's population. So we're actually seeing, greater than the state's population, in that represented in that homeless service system. And the vast majority of older adults experiencing homelessness did have a disabling condition, whether that's a physical health, disability or a mental health disability. And, also, most of those unhoused older adults actually did have a source of income, but typically, as I mentioned, it was, kind of that median monthly income of $1,000, which, in general, particularly in California, is not really sufficient to meet housing and basic needs.

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So, in El Dorado County and I put some little notes about data sources in here, but I won't go into details. I just wanted that for, anyone who's interested. But we've seen a steady increase in people 65 and over that have been served since 2022. So in 2022, there were 15, older people, 65 and older in the homeless service system. And in this last year, they were actually 60.

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We know that that population in general has grown, since 2022, the population of people experiencing homelessness in general, but the percentage of people that are 65 and over has also grown since 2022 up to 12%. And this data, just real quick, comes from, the homeless management information system, which is a software that collects information on all of the people, receiving services in El Dorado County. Then when we look at some of, the additional data, we know that 90 people 62 and over are on the binding list, so they're currently homeless and awaiting housing placement or support. And we also saw that between 2024 and 2025, the number of, older adults 65 and older grew from ten in 2024 to twenty three in 2025. And that data is from the point in time count, which many of you may be familiar with.

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That's just, a snapshot in time, usually the last week in January. Okay. And I can go back to any of these slides during the questions too. But I also wanted to share some information about people that may be, what we call housing insecure. So they're not actually currently homeless, but they may be at risk of losing their housing, or having to make sort of those challenging decisions between keeping their housing or being able to pay for food or health care.

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So there's an estimated 8,291 homeowners, that are 65 or over that are cost burdened, and cost burden just means they're spending more than 30% of their income on housing. And this map just sort of the darker colors are, greater numbers. This data is by census track. This is a couple years old just because of the delay in the census, but these are estimates, from 2022 to 2024. And then an additional estimated 2,451 renters are cost burdened as well.

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So when we add those up, we get to around 10,000 people 65 and over that are, potentially housing insecure. And then we look at additionally people that are 65 that are, under 20% of the poverty level. And the reason that I used, 200%, sorry, is because that still is only around $31,000 a year for a single person. The poverty line for a single person is actually 15,690 a year, which you can imagine definitely cannot pay for housing plus other things. And the median rent for a one bedroom in El Dorado County is 1,249.

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Obviously, that may differ in different areas of the county. But so we see again that this is a group of renters who, is potentially going to be at risk of losing housing. So I share all that to just, kinda set up the story for kind of what are some of the ways that Eldorado County, can address the challenge. And, obviously, you know, there's the underlying issue of housing affordability. That's a challenge nationally, but I wanted to share some things that are potentially more immediate solutions or ways to address this challenge with you all today.

41:36 – 42:2310

So the biggest one I think, is preventing housing loss. So we know that kind of aging in place is the ideal situation for most people. For some of those people that that can't really be prevented or need more assistance, then it's looking at options where you're providing them with housing but with wraparound services that are appropriate to their needs. And then the final one that I'm gonna end on because I think this is a potentially great opportunity for the county is just to increase the collaboration and coordination across agencies that are serving seniors and the homeless continuum of care. So when we talk about preventing housing loss, that doesn't always mean providing rental assistance.

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So that is one way to prevent housing loss, but there also could be a lot of other resources that can help someone stay in their home. That can include things like landlord mediation, utility assistance or negotiation. It could also include having some of those in home nursing care and supports. Also, looking for resources that can support rehab or modifications to housing. For example, if there are repairs that need to be made that they can't afford or they need to, make their house ADA accessible, for example.

42:57 – 44:2410

And then finally, this it's also looking at making sure people are connected to the mainstream resources and benefits that are already out there so that they, again, are having enough of that income to sustain their housing. So one example one great example of this is actually, the home safe program, which I know is statewide, and that was really designed to support kind of older and dependent adults who were housing insecure experiencing homelessness. And, similar to this list, it provided a wide range of resources, eviction prevention, landlord mediation, financial assistance, and then it paired that all with case management. For individuals who really do need sort of to have new housing, I think looking at the existing housing programs that exist and then also I'm thinking about other housing supports is making sure, again, that those, housing supports are tailored to the unique needs that older adults may have just to make sure that they're able to keep that, assisted housing. So that, again, could look like making sure they have access to in home care, care coordination if they have different doctors or service providers, making sure that the units are accessible or there's access to accessible units, again, for people with mobility challenges.

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And then thinking about how the policies may need to be flexible. So for example, if someone, goes into the hospital, they don't necessarily lose those supports. And so I just bring this one up because oftentimes when we have supportive housing in the community, it's not necessarily designed with older adults in mind. So some of these things may not be part of the existing housing that you have in the community because it is a little bit of a different population. Oh, I think that's where oh, sorry.

45:02 – 45:4510

I skipped ahead. Of the other unique service needs, I'll say, are just kinda making sure there's routine screening. And a lot of these you all probably know more about than me, but making sure there's routine screening just to catch any declining health or mental health issues early on, looking at ways to address common risk factors around, like, falls, making sure they have access to medication and medical equipment. Some people may need support with activities of daily living, and then, as I mentioned, coordinating care. And then I think in addition, it's making sure that we're addressing that social isolation piece, so ensuring they have access to other types of support, whether that's a wellness group or a social support.

45:46 – 46:4210

So again, these are not necessarily always things that are provided as standard, for supportive housing programs. So making sure that our existing supportive housing and future programs can really address the needs of older adults. So, yeah, so this kind of brings us to, I think, the biggest opportunity or the most immediate opportunity, which is really thinking about how, the agencies that are working in housing and homelessness can really partner with the agencies serving seniors to make sure that kind of no one's falling through the cracks, but also, that everyone has access to the services they need. And this speaks a little bit to the fact that, sometimes we have those two primary groups. The people that, are aging into homelessness may have those connections to housing and homeless service providers, but aren't necessarily connected to the agencies serving seniors.

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And vice versa, if someone's older, they're not sure if they're gonna lose their housing, they're not necessarily going to think of the continuum of care, and they may not think of themselves as being homeless. And so I think, you know, looking at ways they're they may call the information referral line, and so knowing what resources are provided, I think, is really important. And some of this is just making sure also that there's sort of cross training and capacity building, technical assistance to make sure, you know, that everyone's familiar with the other groups, that they're serving. So this could mean not just, the area on area on aging, but, the adult protective services, hospitals, in home services, so really thinking kind of broadly about all of the agencies serving seniors in your community. So part of this too, I think, is, as I mentioned, people, depending on their situation, may be more likely to connect it to the continuum of care or the, area agency on aging.

47:55 – 49:0010

So as we think about, the continuum of care, there's actually a system called coordinated entry that provides a single starting point for anyone who's homeless in El Dorado County, and that just sort of enables the community to connect them to the resources that they're, that they need, making sure that they are getting the right types of services, etcetera. So in El Dorado County, the system is called Frontdoor, and it's led by Tahoe Coalition for the Homeless. And most of those other service providers are kind of connected to that continuum. So this, I think, is a great opportunity of looking at how the I INR line from, AAA can connect with Frontdoor to really make sure, again, if someone's calling INR and potentially having housing issues, there's communication with the COC, and vice versa. If someone, over, you know, 60 is calling COC coordinated entry, that they're connecting them also with, the area agency on aging.

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So I think this is a great place, at least to kind of start that collaboration. And the last slide I have, and then we can do lots of questions. I just included some resources here, and I'll send this slide deck. But there are a lot of resources actually out particularly from US aging, that are good examples of how triple a and COC can work together. There's certain continuum of care, for example, that have a subcommittee on older adults.

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So there's lots of different ways that these partnerships can work, but I just wanted to include some examples of them in the resources for you. And I will stop sharing. And, Timeline, I don't know if there's anything I left off that you want to make sure to mention.

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Mhmm. Wonderful job.

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We'll move to questions if anybody has questions, comments.

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Questions or comments? Oh, question two. I have a couple of questions. I was wondering when, when you gave the the figure of the $15,690 as the poverty level for a single person. Is that in California? Is it a national number? Is it a county number?

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Yeah. So the poverty level, for census and first a lot of the programs is a national number, so you can imagine that that amount is gonna look very different in, like, the rural Midwest versus California. But, yeah, it is a national number.

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Okay. Thank you. And then my other question is, obviously, the the number of seniors, homeless seniors, it is growing. But is that in part because there might be a better awareness of services, or is it truly that more people are becoming, housing insecure?

50:55 – 51:4410

I have I haven't read anything that suggests its awareness of services because I don't know that the homeless service system has really done a good job of working to raise awareness in this population. I think it's just that combination of kind of the homeless population aging with the fact that housing costs have increased and income and benefits have not increased. And so I think, again, nationally, affordability is kind of, a challenge. And I think the other thing is some of the people that are now kind of going into retirement also, who owned homes, you know, may have lost their homes during sort of the mortgage crisis. And so there's a lot of different factors, but I don't think knowing about the service is necessarily one of those.

51:483

I have a question.

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Is there a mandated percentage that the counties have to provide a certain number of accessible units for living, apartments, because I know El Dorado County is severely lacking in accessible housing. I have a young friend who's a quadriplegic, and she's had a heck of a time.

52:14 – 52:269

That's a really good question. And I think that would be something that likely would would be outlined in housing element. I actually wonder if Jim do you know the answer to that question?

52:26 – 52:597

I was just thinking myself. The it's mandated in commercial buildings. We've come a long way. But private housing, as far as I know, is not mandated by code that they'd be accessible. They are coming along. Some of the projects that wanna sell more to older constituents, they're gonna provide some of these things, but it's not mandated yet. We're still working on mandating affordable housing. I think probably next thing would be making those affordable houses accessible.

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Yeah. Thank you. So I do have a a comment because I did attend the March 6 meeting online. What was the most salient statistics for me were those that are rent burdened and those homeowners that are also spending over a third of their income to stay in their current home. And granted, this is, like, 10,000 I'm gonna just call them families.

53:33 – 54:182

So it could be up to, I'd say, 20,000 individuals or 30,000 individuals that are it could be impacted if they're on the cliff. And, again, this two years ago, these statistics. So these these statistics to me just shouted at me versus the pit count of a 100 people or the bed count of people being at the continuum care homeless shelter in Placerville. These statistics also shouted at me. I need to understand how many of these currently at risk are in each board of supervisor district.

54:18 – 55:062

I love the countywide numbers, but for us to be able to get the board of supervisors excited, these statistics at the district level are just phenomenal. I mean, they really speak to me to be able to go local, very local, and to be able to spread the word that what we're trying to prevent is, you know, upwards of 10,000 people becoming homeless. So, anyway, I applaud applaud you for sharing these statistics, and I love the presentation, and I would like to share it as widely as possible. So thank you. I have a comment on this entire thing.

55:06 – 56:152

From me working with these coalitions and us now, the fraud that is now coming out that have been disgustingly across the board with the offices, the senior programs, all the money that was confiscated by all these NGOs, and now the properties that they purchased and did nothing with are stagnant and have been confiscated, what it what is or what could be our repercussions on getting those properties and or fundage or the fundage is gone, but the properties we could obtain back to the purpose of what it was intended for. We just need to discover Jim, you got any ideas on this maybe? Discover how we can access those properties for the programs they were intended. Does that make sense to everybody in the room? It's called accountability, guys.

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And if we don't claim it, somebody else will. It's a big one. But It's

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a big issue.

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I mean

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It's a big one. But

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You're talking a lot of money over a lot of it disappeared over a long period

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of time. It's absolutely a problem.

56:312

Land, everything that they've done are still there. It's viable. We just need to figure out how to claim it to implement it into our programs.

56:417

How are we gonna get the money back? Probably gonna be like the EDD.

56:45 – 56:562

Well, the money's incentive. But the property that we could utilize for these programs is huge, because that's not gonna disappear. It's just confiscating.

56:567

Well, all of that. Yeah.

56:582

Thank thank you. Because here we are, guys. We need to work together. That's good. That's good. We have some oversight here now.

57:044

Anyways, ask can the legal department? Or

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or import? Import?

57:10 – 57:449

So you have a follow-up to, the question that was asked about accessibility. Jessica Wackenhutt Lomelli is the housing manager for City of South Lake Tahoe, and she apparently is on. I I don't see her, but she's listening, because she provided us some information. Accessibility is required at 10% under the current California building code. It's mandated on all new construction construction and any substantial rehab projects since multifamily is under the Commercial Building Code. So thank you, Jessica. 10%.

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Nice, thank you. Thanks. I

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would comment. Is there any portion of this collaboration that you're in that will provide an educational component for those people who are approaching or are facing this problem as opposed to those that are currently involved in the homelessness and the financial things. Is there any sort of component related to that to educate people? And I know this is one of Bob's favorite topics too, about financial planning as they go forward. There was a headline this morning that in six years, the Social Security payments will be out, no longer available.

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So if you're 55 now or even 62 and planning your retirement, and you're on the edge with the mortgage or and and homelessness facing homelessness, how can you educate people about how to deal with the future as they age to prevent this kind of thing from happening? And I thought perhaps not your group, but the coalition might have one component in there that could address this education.

59:01 – 59:419

Yeah, our prevention diversion programs do have an educational element to it. So if someone is reaching out through coordinated entry looking for prevention to prevent them from becoming homeless, there is financial education associated with it. And then also for our social workers at the HHSA level that are working with the folks in the NAV Center, which are folks that are already experiencing homelessness, there's a, again, a financial education piece to it to help them develop a budget and say you know, and and develop skills to stay within the developed budget.

59:424

Thank you. You're welcome.

59:47 – 1:00:112

Anything else? I have just one other question, and I'm not sure if maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. But breaking down the homeless population by supervisor's district, is that something that we can do or that we've already done? Or At risk. At risk. At Yes. The at the 10,000 that are at risk.

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We we do not track it by supervisory district. The information that and I don't know. Did you wanna take this, Lindsay? Sorry.

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Was just say it's it's at a census track level, which doesn't necessarily align, unfortunately, with the the districts.

1:00:30 – 1:01:129

Okay. And and trying to identify I think from a COC standpoint, coordinated entry and our homeless management information system, we we currently have one system. We're in the process of switching to another system, is much more robust. I do think it would be possible to pull down the information, and it it would probably be a manual process to to break it down by supervisor district. But the the caveat to that is that's only the information for folks that are seeking services through coordinated entry.

1:01:12 – 1:01:299

And we know for this particular population, there's a large portion based on statistics that aren't accessing our homeless, continuum of care. So I don't know how accurate the information would be.

1:01:292

Okay. Alright. Understood. Thank you for that.

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Yeah. You're welcome.

1:01:342

Anyone else have questions or comments? Anyone online have questions or comments? I see Joan has joined us.

1:01:49 – 1:02:1911

I have joined you but in a it was extremely frustrating and I missed the first part of this. I think that it's a valuable conversation for the commission and anyone who is interested in helping people help people. And coalition is and team building is what we're looking for. And I hope you can't see me because I have this lovely gown on.

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I'm sure it is lovely though.

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Area thinks so. Okay.

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Well Do you want me to ask

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for a public comment?

1:02:36 – 1:03:002

Oh. We've got four attendees besides, Joe and Lindsay and Timoline. Okay. Do we have any any comment from anyone online? Any public comment? I should should read. I'll I'll read it. Okay. Now taking public comment on the PowerPoint presentation. Individuals will have three minutes to address the submission.

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Public comment will be taken first from those participating in the meeting room and then from those participating through Zoom. For those participating by Zoom, please make sure you unmute yourself when called upon. If you are joining the meeting by phone, and we don't have anyone doing that, raise your hand if you would like to make a comment. Please voluntarily state your name for the record. No one's raising them.

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Okay. No public comments.

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A question a question of of staff. Is there any way to provide home delivered meals to, like, a site where like, the navigation center where those folks could at least have lunch? Or is that already being done somewhere? I don't know.

1:03:48 – 1:04:169

Yes. At the navigation center, folks are provided with a continental breakfast, a sack lunch, and a hot dinner. So meals are provided at the nav center. So they people in the nav center would not be eligible to receive the home delivered meal. But but, yes, if they were somewhere where their meals were not being provided, they and they were eligible to receive home delivered meals, they could sign up to receive those.

1:04:178

Okay. Thank you.

1:04:180

You're welcome. Lindsay,

1:04:212

could you, email me your PowerPoint presentation so I can share it with the commissioners?

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Yep. Definitely.

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Thank you. That would be great. Thank you. So, do we have any anything else for Lindsay? Or Thank you so much for, joining us. I'm glad we could finally get you online. This has been very informational. Yeah. Thank you. K. Bye. Bye.

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Thanks, Lindsey. Bye. Thank you. Bye.

1:04:53 – 1:05:082

Okay. You have any comments? I think that was in the middle of her presentations. Oh, yes. We moved back to the network part. Excellent.

1:05:10 – 1:05:415

Alright. So I was sharing information about some changes in staffing recently. The one piece that I still wanted to share with you was we still have the vacancy of a program coordinator position in South Lake Tahoe. So any word you can share, any information you can share, any family, friends that might be interested. It is a continuous recruitment, so applicants could submit an application at any time, and we will be able to interview them pretty quickly.

1:05:41 – 1:06:185

So it's unlike your standard recruitment process where there's a bit of a wait each time a a step is completed. And let's see. And I think that pretty much covers our personnel changes. I also wanted to share that we were recently notified by the California Department of Aging that we are scheduled for another virtual monitoring of our programs that will take place next year. The last time the state monitored us was in 2023, so it's been a few years since they've been on-site.

1:06:18 – 1:07:025

And we know last time, they they wanted to interview somebody from the commission on aging, and they had a lovely conversation with Liz and were very impressed with the knowledge and understanding of our programs and how active this commission is within the community. So we got a lot of positive feedback from the state on that. They also interviewed one of our county supervisors because the board of supervisors is our governing board for the area agency on aging. So we are looking at a date in May for that one, and we'll have our entrance meeting with the state sometime in January. So it gives us a lot

1:07:020

of time to prepare. Monitoring, like, a touchy base, or is it more of, like, an audit?

1:07:07 – 1:07:245

It's like an audit, but they the state has changed the way they're working with us in a way that they really look at it as technical assistance as well. You know? How are you doing with some of these topics? You know? And then they go through an education opportunity.

1:07:24 – 1:07:555

But they do they look at Yasmin has to upload a ton of information on everything that we're doing, your bylaws, meeting minutes, meeting agendas. I mean, they really dive into everything that we're doing. We have to write narratives for them. It's a pretty thorough process, but it was a really great opportunity last year. And they look at each program individually, and they have different teams that look at at each of our area agency on aging programs.

1:07:55 – 1:08:285

But it is it is kind of an audit. It can come with findings if we're not doing something that's following the compliance with the regulations. So and and I always look forward to these opportunities because it's a great chance to interface with the state as well. Right now, I also wanna share that we're getting ready for completing our area plan update. So Yasmin is already starting to look at our numbers and how we're meeting our goals.

1:08:28 – 1:09:115

And if she hasn't already reached out to you, she'll be reaching out to you soon to see where we're at with some of the items that the commissioners are directly involved with. And I think we'll bring the public hearing forward at one of your maybe the May meeting, I think, for the public hearing on the area plan update, which is our required step before we go to the board of supervisors for adoption. And part of that is we have a thirty day public noticing requirement. The state still hasn't provided us with updated guidance for the area plan update, so we haven't started that process yet. But we will need thirty days to have the public notice out there.

1:09:12 – 1:10:005

I think we had originally target targeted the April meeting, but I don't think we're gonna be able to make that one work just specifically for that reason. And I also have good news about the fair. I I keep getting asked, and I I started to feel defeated for a moment. But as you all know, we participate in the fair annually and have a booth where we conduct outreach for our senior facing programs, and we've done this collaboratively with our adult protective services and in home supportive services programs as well as the commission on aging as well as members from my team within the area agency on aging. Jordan has been the one that had conducted this and coordinated this in the past.

1:10:00 – 1:10:385

And thanks to the program manager over at APS and IHSS, I feel fortunate, if you haven't already heard, to report out that Jordan will still be working with us to coordinate. So she will she will be working with her colleague over there, Liz, who's the admin analyst for those programs. And Joan has worked with senior peer counseling as well, so we anticipate that they'll be a partner at the table. So I think we'll have a lot of support this year, but we have an expert helping us to coordinate it. So good news for us.

1:10:40 – 1:11:275

I also wanted to share that we have been in conversations with the city of South Lake Tahoe. As I think most of you are aware, they are talking about opening their multigenerational center next month. And so right now, we are analyzing what our needs are. We're looking at what the space availability is, what our client needs are, and we anticipate that we will need to either mend an existing facility use agreement or put something in place. So we have a a lot of conversations that are still taking place on what that knee means for my staff and how we're gonna be able to administer services from that new site.

1:11:27 – 1:11:415

We don't anticipate being in the building when they open their doors if they're still on target for an April date, but I don't currently have a date, a solid date for the move because of all the pieces we have to put in place right now.

1:11:41 – 1:11:534

Comment on that. Do you feel it would be appropriate to have a representative from this commission on that discussion in those discussions given our history and and support of that program?

1:11:545

Right now and I might defer to Timeline on the answer for that one.

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No, Tim.

1:12:03 – 1:12:349

Seems it's early. I think right now, I believe it was yesterday that there was a list of questions and needs that I got from Yvette. Thank you, Yvette. That Yvette and Brittany have worked on. I need to meet with CAO's office and facilities to go through it's a it's a little bit it's a county level agreement, but it affects our program.

1:12:34 – 1:13:009

So, usually, we have an agreement that it's just program to program. But this one involves the city and the county, and we're just a player in it. So I don't I I mean, I'm I'm hopeful that when we bring our needs forward that we don't have any opposition and that it works out beautifully, but I don't know yet how that's gonna go.

1:13:002

So Who's taking over John's part in this at this point?

1:13:060

Oh, what's her name?

1:13:109

Is John out still? Because I thought John was out, but then he attended the last meeting.

1:13:155

He's been in our meetings.

1:13:162

Has he? Yeah.

1:13:179

Yeah. So I think I think he is still watching this

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At some level.

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And who's the city manager that we're working with now?

1:13:309

Well, we're working with John. Okay. And then there's somebody else. What is what is the woman's name? I can't remember.

1:13:370

I can't remember.

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Was a meeting on the ninth, and I was not able to attend. And then we had one meeting prior to that. And then the prior to that meeting the first meeting that we had with them was them telling us that they are on track. They're looking at opening in April and just kind of going through some logistics. And then I don't know.

1:14:00 – 1:14:539

I think Britney I mean, I Yvette, I think you went to Britney and Yvette went and met with city staff and walked through the facility and looked at, you know, where the dining will be, the warming kitchen, the regular kitchen, the storage, room for freezers, and all of the, you know, nitty gritty details for senior nutrition to move over. And then we were originally looking at maybe a a May date to move over. But as they went through the building, they identified some other questions. And so it we may be pushing that out. I mean, the nice thing is we don't have a strict timeline for when we have to transition all the services over, So that gives us some time to really make sure we work out all of the details so that it is as smooth of a transition as possible and so that it doesn't disrupt services.

1:14:549

The other person is Kelly Edwards.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Lynette. Okay. Perfect. So if there's anything else I can do for you to alleviate any of the pain that continues to grow up

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there, please

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feel free to reach out.

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Thank you. And I suspect by the April meeting, we'll be able you know, we'll know a little bit more how this is gonna go and what it's gonna look like. K.

1:15:21 – 1:15:534

And you'll give us some feedback at that time because, historically, for all of you who came to the table, we were at the table. Thank you. We have been in this from the beginning. Yes. Actively. Promises were made. And we have it in writing from the county board of supervisors. We have it in writing from the city of South Lake Tahoe about things that were promised and have yet to come to fruition. So I really feel it's important at some point when you feel it's appropriate that we be involved.

1:15:54 – 1:16:349

Definitely. Yes. I will also ensure that our supervisors are aware of how things are progressing and and the language that is written in the original 56 acre agreement, which does clearly outline, you know, the approximate square footage and the services. It it gives some pretty good details, as to what the what will be available for us and for senior services at the new site.

1:16:354

Thank you. You're welcome.

1:16:38 – 1:16:522

I have a question regarding the coordinator position up there. Mhmm. At one point, we had discussed maybe changing the specs for that position. Has that been addressed, or was any changes made?

1:16:54 – 1:17:055

I am not aware of changing specs for the position there. The specs that we use for our positions are approved by human resources and the board of supervisors. Right. I'm not aware of any

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But I know that we were having trouble filling it at one point, Timlin. Well, obviously, we still are. That we were going to look at the specs and maybe change or drop some that were unnecessary in order to fill that position.

1:17:29 – 1:17:439

Well, it's not it's a very complicated process to change job It's a review that's done by human resources, and it's compared they compare to surrounding area job descriptions.

1:17:499

would take us longer than we have funding for to do that.

1:17:552

Thanks for addressing that.

1:17:573

Yeah. Sorry.

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It's not a very good answer, but that's the world that we have in. MQs get us in a lot of positions. Very challenging. It it's true.

1:18:17 – 1:18:292

Yvette, that is your report. I think, moving on next, Lynette is going to give us a health and human services agency manager. Yes. And I'll keep

1:18:29 – 1:19:081

it short. And, Tulin, if you have anything you wanna add that we haven't already talked about, please feel free to do so. You know, we continue at the agency leadership level and and staff level. We're really, you know, focused on budget. Budget. Budget. Budget. 2627 budget process has been going on for months, and we continue to work on it. And it's just really often a moving target because as legislation and funding at federal level changes and and changes at the state level as well, you know, then we work to make things work at the county level. So a lot of our energy is there.

1:19:08 – 1:19:521

We know that senior services programs rely heavily on general fund dollars, and some of our programs are mandated, but we we support them at levels far beyond the mandate. Some of our programs are not mandated. So we just continue to look and continue to have conversations about how can we do our part outside of those general fund dollars to support our programs, donations, increase voluntary contributions, looking at grants. Are there other ways that we can raise support revenue for our our beloved aging programs? So and, you know, it's not just our senior services either, other programs where we rely on general funds we're looking as well.

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So a lot of focus on the budget, and stay tuned. We'll keep you posted as, you know, as that progresses. Obviously, the start of the new fiscal year is July I will add kind of a fun thing and a very helpful program that Animal Services is putting on is April 11 in in Georgetown at the American River Charter School, and I can send this flyer out. I can get it to

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a vet so she can get it up

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to you all. If you all are pet owners or no pet owners, Animal Services in coalition with another of other community partners, including UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine, is putting on a preparedness beyond people event. We live in a county that has fires and other sorts of emergency events, and pets need to be evacuated. Livestock need to be evacuated as well. So really looking at what that means.

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Livestock training. Can your livestock be loaded easily onto a trailer? Have you ever tried to load a horse or a cow or whatever it might be onto a trailer? So you're just thinking at that level and making certain that animal owners are prepared and have an opportunity to ask questions. There'll be free vaccines, free microchips for dogs and cats, livestock and equine education, and then kind of helping pet and animal owners think about animal evacuation if ever that should be needed.

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And that's Saturday, April 11 from ten to two. So we're really excited about that, and it's always lovely to partnership partner with UC Davis. I think, you know, the other we've we've been talking about housing, unhoused homelessness, so a great presentation that we had. Timeline, do you have anything else you would want to add?

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Say no. Nope. No.

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No. I don't think so. I I think probably, just to build a little bit on the budget. I know last year, it was pretty tense. And at this point in the budget process, we don't have anything as tense as last year as it pertains to senior services, so that's a good thing. I I would also just really wanna give recognition to the staff that have put so much time and energy into campaigning to increase membership for senior day, increase donations for all

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programs. They have really worked hard over this last year. We are seeing benefits of that. Senior day, we definitely could see more, but it is absolutely not for lack of effort. So thank you, Yvette, Lynette, Yasmin, all of the supervisors, all of the staff because they have really been working hard, to identify alternative funding sources.

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There is one that will probably be ready to roll out. Well, we're we're looking at an implementation day date of July that it's a funding source that will help to supplement some of our programs. We don't know exactly how much it will supplement, but anything is better than nothing. So kudos to you guys for being so dedicated and thinking outside the box. You're you're keeping us under the radar this year. So thank you.

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And, actually, on the senior day note, we have availability at the club, and it's a wonderful place. So just as you're talking and you're out in the in the community, if you know people get the word out that we have spaces at the club for older adults who need supervision during the day, caregivers who need respite. It's a lovely place, absolutely lovely. And we also currently have some financial assistance available too for low income folks. So please just keep getting that word out. We've got brochures. We've got flyers in English and Spanish. So we really just continue to try and grow our membership at the club. Yes.

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Do you have any transportation Yes.

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Uh-huh. So Eldorado Transit does run is providing service. How do they do that? If

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if someone is interested in the program, they will work. We'll send a referral over to Eldorado Transit, and then they will get the required pass from Eldorado Transit to have their family member. Right now, we're pick picking up in Eldorado Hills over the Park And Ride that's by the post office, and they're coming up and taking them back down. This is happening Monday through Friday. So it's everything. Set times? Or It's at specific times. I don't have that with me right now, but we do have set times for that.

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Can get some of that in. Okay. Because that's one of those things that I run into is people. For your area. Yeah. For our area to get them up there.

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And we also have a route that goes through different locations and picks people up at their homes up here in in the Placerville area. So there's there's two routes that we are working with Eldorado Transit, on they're a great partner. Maybe I can Yeah. I'll I'll I'll work with Nancy to get that for you.

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Yeah. So what is the daily capacity of

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So we are 32 per day. Staffing right now, we can do 32 per day. That it might mean we currently have to pull someone out of kind of another role that they're able to come out onto the floor. So yeah. And we just aren't you know, we've we've got plenty

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of space still. So Okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. So our goal is, you know, 32 per day. There's a little bit of economy in there, so it's the staff ratio is one to eight. So our initial goal was 35, but to do 35 a day, that would mean we'd have to hire another staff member. And so 32 seems to kinda make more sense. So four folks on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. Because if we then hired another person, we would exceed, you know, and not be able to

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Yeah. It would it

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gets expensive, obviously. So 32 is our adjusted goal per day. Magic number.

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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That sounds

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I know you guys have

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done so much work after last week's committee meeting on getting the burnout and getting funding. We're all looking at that. Conversely, I I know you guys are doing a lot of marketing also, but is there a marketing budget, or can there be a larger marketing budget? Because not only do we need to raise funds and get more money, we need more people. So if we do more marketing, then we don't need to do as much fundraising.

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Am I off base? Specifically about the club?

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Yeah. But, really, all the

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senior all the senior I know I know it's a headache to get the word out. When I worked at El Dorado Hills CSD, there was a community pool in the in the center of the community for twenty years. And people would say, I didn't know we had a swimming pool here. And it's like, be responsible for, you know, knowing what so the I mean, there's a lot of factors.

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But Yeah. That's I

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mean, marketing, marketing, marketing.

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Yeah. So we we did make some CSBG funds available specifically for marketing the club, and those ads are running the clipper, the windfall Hang

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A few others. I'm trying to remember Nancy. Yep. Nancy was able to get some free placements too. Who did

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you just say? Georgetown Gazette. And I believe she said around here, I think it was, the other one.

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Yeah. And I and then I think also there was something that was an additional one that was gonna be coming in the Mountain Democrat, I believe.

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Yeah. I saw it.

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I saw it in there.

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Yeah. So we were trying to, you know, provide some funding to get the word out there. I think part of the issue with marketing, and I'm not speaking specifically to Eldorado County, but just, like, big picture in general, you can pay to to publicize something, but do people see it? And is that the most effective use of marketing? So marketing is always a little bit tricky. Yeah. So we're trying. Yeah.

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But, know

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Word-of-mouth. Word-of-mouth. Anytime you're talking about social services, some kind of social service program, in my career, it's always, how'd you hear about it? Word-of-mouth. Word-of-mouth. Word-of-mouth.

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Yeah. Agreed.

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Yeah. And so the marketing is important, and, you know, we'll continue to do that the best we can, but it's you kinda just have to throw that net out super wide. And then you never even necessarily know what brought somebody in.

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Right. Right. Well, like, APS, for example, I don't know the timeline, but a couple years ago, had ads at the bus stops locally. I don't know if that costs money.

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We've got we've been putting flyers out. You know, we're doing what we can on social media social media. You know, people shared a fair amount. So yeah.

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So Sure.

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We're updating brochures.

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Yeah. I I show all the work. Don't don't let don't let it sound like

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No. No. No. And, actually, I would like to say, I mean, we really tell us in your experience what works well or let us know when you see things or when you're talking with people, you know, what what in your experience at different places in the county is the best way to get the word out because we're we'd love to do more. It's been

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huge too.

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Yeah. Yep. So if you have ideas, please let us know.

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And also to answer the question about the bus stop ads, yes, they do cost money, and they cost quite a bit of money. We've also done that for Heap. I don't know that we've done it for any senior services, but that actually would be a good thing to look into because I can't remember now, but I I know we have the information as to how successful it was for Heap.

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I think word-of-mouth works really well for services like that. Everybody's talking to everybody else

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when they have a need.

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It's like, what do you do? And Yep.

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Not necessarily reading the windfall.

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Yep. And the other thing kind of as follow-up to marketing is we're also specifically the club, but I think just in general too, trying to do a lot of intentional outreach. Certainly knowing if someone is is asking about the club to find out more. You know, there's a chance their family could be in crisis. They've got someone who needs supervision during the day, and they're maybe trying to hold down a job, and so maybe there's a lot going on in their life.

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And so we wanna keep we wanna make certain that we keep reaching out so that when they have a moment to breathe or a moment to actually sit down and do the paperwork or reach out to the doctor that we're not forgotten or they, you know, they don't think they lost the opportunity with us. So just trying to make certain that we let people know that when you're ready, when you're able, we're still here. So, know, that's kind of we're looking at it from that perspective as well.

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And I think Raeleen gave a good example earlier of telling the home health nurse about the programs because it was the everyday interaction that

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can get work. She was saying that, you know, she went into other companies that do this, and they just would love to know. Mhmm. We could reach out to them. I think that'll

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be a part of what I will be spearheading for my supervisor in her legacy program is working with Marshall on some of these outreach things. I can see doing a presentation to the home health providers, whether it be physical therapy, occupational therapy, or nursing, get them all together for home health and doing the presentation to them. And I I know the director there, so probably reaching us. Yeah.

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Sounds good. I think it's a good time for us to take a break. We're about halfway through. So would you say whatever big team is? 10. Oh, let's do ten. Ten. We'll shoot for ten, and then maybe everybody do that in their. Yeah. How's that? Okay. Yeah. So I have eleven. So nine right now. Start with the executive committee.

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I don't have names on these. I do. It's me. He said

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so I'm not sure what to report out on. We have no reporting to do that. Have Joan still? Like to No. I don't have Joan. Okay. I can't see that. We only Okay. Have ours. Oh, Tibulin is there and and Azulin. Azulin? Alright. So let's let's go to the policy and legislation committee. I'll bring you

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to see their. And that is reading. Well, as you know, because you see it on March 3, a summary of our proposals that I was dealing with. And it's they're pretty exciting. None of them have been killed yet.

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So we have two that are in hearing hearing. So the rest of them are in committees, but things are happening. Gonna have, like, three twenty five. It's gonna be another committee that's gonna look at it on 03/16. So they're staying current. So some of these just might read the the document that was sent to you. It tells you what they but but no. It's kind of exciting this year, but you haven't been filled yet.

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I was not. It's

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good. It's very good. And then one of the things they're doing is meeting today, unfortunately, there, but nine legislators have brought their bills to the ESL to provide for us to provide support. And so that that we would get back today. Most of our supply that support.

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But one of them that's kind of exciting is Patterson's. It's wildfire mitigation and just. Available. And so that one is one we're gonna consider.

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So that's in process that hasn't already happened.

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No. This is these are in the same position our side. Okay. They're working their way through the system. And they legislators, they they get a price, Seniors, they often send them. Okay. Then the CSL. He got away. Okay. Okay. And addition

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to what Raylene's talking about, so if you're not already signed up to get your California State Senate newsletter or send the person newsletter, please do. Because they talk about their bills that are in committee or if they need testimony or if they need support. And that's the quickest way you're gonna learn about where they're you know, where they have sponsored something. And if it's of interest to

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as a senior advocate, you know, go ahead and, you know, participate in whatever it is or has questions about those proposed bill. Definitely. All of that is actually not because I I am subscribed to Joe Patterson's. Get good information from him, and then

1:36:070

also my supervisor's work permits update. So I get a lot of good information that comes in a timely manner. So a lot

1:36:172

of times you hear six months later, and you're not do about it, but it's good to

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know when things are being processed. Because Yes. You can see it. Yeah. Something you're really interested in. Yeah. Post the support letter so it'll help. We can send them a report letter. Mhmm. And

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the next up is the AAA Council of Health Care Attack Report data. Okay. So at right, I I gave you the TAC report. So TAC is the AAA Council of California. And, basically, it's a statewide body that each AAA appoints someone to represent their PSA.

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Okay. And we meet quarterly to discuss issues, best practices, yada yada yada. Joe and Julie attended the meeting online. So I just didn't give you the background of why I'm only gonna give you a quarterly report because that's the only time I'm required to provide one. So you have received a hard copy of the quarterly report that I need to submit online to tech.

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And you're free to to discuss it with, you know, your if you're an appointee. This has already been uploaded online, and we are public. So how about it? If you have any questions, get back to me. But when I send out an email that says, is there anything you want me to include in the TAP report?

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This is the report I'm talking about to you. So, you know, just just be aware. Now what I wanted to tell you about at the TAP meeting, there was really a lot of discussion about mental health, behavioral health programs for older adults. So they they went into there was a piece specific presentation about mental health. And I I'm gonna let Joan take the lead on bringing highlighting mental health issue because she is on the Peer counseling.

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Peer counseling. So I think Joan could speak much more deeply about how important mental health services are for older adults. So we'll we'll let that happen. The other thing that I thought was good was in the county of Sonoma, they talked about how they have created their own local master plan for aging. So they went in in-depth as to, you know, how did they figure out what was gonna be their specific goals that they wanted to go deeper into SunocoCamp.

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So that was a very interesting program. They did have funding, so this is not something that's easy to do. They actually got funding from their board of supervisors to fund a, I think, pretty much a full time coordinator over, like, a eighteen month two year program to get this going. So it wasn't just a pure volunteer that was, you know, coordinating all the community outreach, all the the how do we do a survey, a focus group, yada yada yada. Because it really took them, I believe, eighteen eighteen months to even get to the point of this is our deeper dive.

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And now I think they're seeking some more funding to keep it going into the implementation. Question. Yeah.

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Are they in independent five zero one c three?

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I don't know. I don't know. But, anyway, like I said, they did get, you know, a funded coordinator to work on this. Yep. So that was kind of interesting.

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Now if you look at my my report, I did highlight one of the activities that we did under senior housing, which we were pretty happy with. And we several of us actually sent in letters, and there was a very close vote at the board of supervisors, three to two, to move a project forward. Wasn't gonna cost the county anymore. It was already there was grant money from the state, I believe. Right?

1:40:49 – 1:41:312

That was available. So, anyway, I did highlight that we had, you know, a little wear at least. So helping an affordable housing project continue on instead. We'll see how far it gets. So what was the opposition to that? Well, but this is where I would like those appointees to to see what was the opposition so we can be aware of what is the opposite. Because there might be, you know, reasons that we need to understand and overcome. But, basically, Turnboo, supervisor Turnboo, and supervisor no. Laurie voted for it. Veer Veer camp or the opposition vote. So that was the three to two. So anyway

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a bond issue for a specific project. That was a project a second part of the project, the first that had already been built. So it was a continuation of a great affordable housing project in a nice spot as far as not, you know, choking off the transportation. And, yeah, with a three to two vote. We we kinda assumed since it wasn't gonna cost the county money, and it was a good thing that it would be a five person vote. Yeah.

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It's good to understand the opposition because then the next guy Right. You gotta be ready and address it before the executive comes up too. And if it's valid opposition, we as representation of the the older adults in the Colorado County, we need to understand that. We really do. You know? I think other

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people who are not in my backyard, they do not want this. Mhmm. I have development anywhere. And then we find that in

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So it's a not in my backyard. Really a mix. Wow. Okay. But then if it is an NIMBY issue, let's just not stop there. Let's see how can we mitigate the issues that they're was that noise, traffic, whatever it is. Let's see how we can, you know

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That's what I'm always doing. Yeah. Okay. Too much noise, the roads aren't coming. And I think, you know, when you have a two lane highway road built fifty years ago accommodating all these additional housing, you know, like, you know, they have reasons, but they're not in my backyard. Okay. That's yeah. Yeah. We need to understand that and have something to do. Right.

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So that is our chapter. Thank you. Retreat and strategic planning. I'll see you too.

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So thank you for all the people that came to the planning retreat last February I mean, last month. It was it really was good. And I also wanna thank everybody that provided ideas prior to us meeting in February because that really jump started the our ability to go into the deeper dive. I did send out Jasmine sent out to everybody. I provided a summary of the deeper dive, which we we really focused on outreach and education.

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And in that summary, we were talking about how do we expand out and how do we utilize various methods of communicating to the public, whether it be in person, online, whatever, and what type of curriculum should we be creating. So, anyway, on the education side, we're going to reinvigorate our education as far as financial preparedness, whether it relates to affordability, longevity, housing, whatever, we're gonna work on that, and we're gonna leverage senior times to put up relevant articles. So that's why I said if you don't have a topic in mind, reach out to Bob or I, and we can give you a financial preparedness type article to submit. But if you do I don't wanna preclude whatever you guys wanna write about for your senior time submission. But if you're drawing a blank, just reach out to Bob and I, and we'll give you some names.

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But, anyway, you all if you didn't receive this document, let me know because I don't wanna have to go through and read it all. It was it was a very good discussion amongst the the teams that sat and did the deeper dive. So thank you. Okay. Next up, we have committee report for revenue generating for older adult services. Yeah.

1:45:520

With Amy, the new committee chairperson. Okay. So Janet, Joan, and I met.

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Janet helped me met had

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met with Lynette and Yasmin, and there was one other person. Right?

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Oh, one of the senior attorneys. Yes. We

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had a real good overview of

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where our budget's at and kind of the constraints that the county is looking at. Yes, they are looking at ways to save, which might impact our programs. And so our task is to look at ways that we can generate funds outside of the county. So we're just starting to have discussions about different ways that we can market with your website that you've already started, get donations. So just real preliminary discussions, but we'll be meeting once a month.

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We're hoping to talk with you maybe after this meeting to set some dates, and then we'll report it, some ideas, and hopefully input from this. You wanna add anything to that? Or I think you stated everything well.

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It was a good first meeting.

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It was a great first meeting. You did a really good job of giving us this. Kind of a it was hard to hear all the numbers that you guys were dealing with. It's a little overwhelming, the numbers. So it was a good education for me, the rest of us at that meeting.

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Yeah. Glad we're getting started on some of these things. Okay. Bylaws and policies and procedures. I don't know that anything has been done. That's an

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ad hoc business. Yeah. Okay.

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Senior of the year ad hoc committee.

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That will be me. Nancy?

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Thanks to the hard work of Rebecca before she went off pregnant. And her new assistant, Emily, we have the paperwork ready to go, the flyers are ready to go, and the husband's gonna be the coordinator along with Emily on receiving applications. So now, essentially, it's marketing. It's getting the word out. It's the same thing we talk about with all the programs we have to do for senior peer.

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It's special in that it's a one time only, and it's for anyone. So we all know what it is. We have to let everybody else know what it is. There was a marvelous article in the front page of the Senior Times explaining it and expanding the understanding of it. So I'm hoping that helps.

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Every one of us should be able to grab a couple of brochures and just, you know, just like butterflies. Just think about there that everybody know about. Because it's it's a wonderful program, and there are so many people out there doing so many wonderful things that should be recognized. So just butterfly them out there and get that done. Insofar as the actual preparation for the day, the reception, the brunch is well under control.

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Lori Parlin has arranged that we have a 09:00 spot on the board of supervisors agenda as we did last year, which is really helpful. And so I think we're underway. So the job for everybody now is just, you know,

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laugh it out.

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And have it, like, an email wire? Or So we can arrange them. Okay. Because I've got a couple groups that I that I work with that I could just email them a copy. I'm also thinking maybe, like, the rotary groups around here, and then we may should ask that.

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Strange you should say that is because I wrote down your fraternal organizations. Yeah. That's one of those groups that always have volunteers just like we have volunteers. So we you hit the the animals, lions, the elks, the boots, the

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you know? If we can get all of that,

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the rotary, the IFOF, you know, family, if we can hit some of those fraternal organizations, and I know we've talked about that before with presentations. Well, all we want is to, you know, flur a few of these these brochures out there at them. So anybody that has any connection with something like that will get you some brochures. They could get church newsletters. You can email it to your church newsletter. Be creative. We we've all known how to do that, so just be creative in doing that. And I know Laurie sent it out in her monthly newsletter. Charles does that for us. She's very supportive.

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So we'll be ready to go with that. If you could get one of those brochures online for set out for us at. Do

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we somehow maintain a marketing

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database of emails like that?

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INA a huge database of people that they mail out to. And I I know Jordan was working on it all the time she was there. From mail or

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e Email. Email. So is that something we would utilize for this program?

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I mean, we could work to utilize. They they have a kind of more of a distribution list, and they set up a group email address. Yep. That'll give us access perhaps to more nonprofits. Jordan

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has some Beth Anthem. They do.

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That is all in the database. It's like that list. Right?

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Yep. Thanks. Yeah. And the trigger parts And the parts. That's good.

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And some of the that you're talking about. Yep. Like Shakespeare. Oh, I I Okay.

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Yes. Everybody needs to put on their schedule. Tuesday, May 19, to be there.

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Nineteenth or seventeenth? Nineteenth. Nineteenth. May 9. I was there. I heard a lot. May 19. Get it on your calendar. You are expected to attend. I'm looking at everybody. And, again, 09:00 time specific for the board of supervisors first thing in the morning to be followed by eight and o at lunch. And I will be the selection committee for the senior of the year will be appointed. The end date for the applications, I believe, is the third week in April. That's what I heard. Yes.

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Third week in April. So immediately after that, he will have a team that I'll get a team together, and we will go in. We'll read the applications and choose the senior of the year. Then immediately after that, although the the names will go to the engravers of the at Arnold's rewards, and the the the purchase order's already gone through you for that. So that's taken care of. It just have to So we're we look like we're in pretty good shape. We just

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need some nominees. Mhmm. Okay. So the deadline, again, is is the April 30? Third week. And Third week?

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Third week in April.

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And thank you, Gail, for providing all the food for

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How many years in a row?

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Well, still 11.

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So there. I report. Alright. Thank you.

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That's a good report. K. Moving on to commission reports. We have outreach and education. So I'll speak for this because I I will talk about it in new business.

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But, essentially, everybody spoke about their outreach at the beginning of the meeting as far as what activities they do. But I will talk to how since we no longer have a chair, because Reglene has a lot of other stuff on her plate, I'll explain how we, as the outreach former outreach committee, are setting up little Anahoc teams to get some deliverables done quickly and how we're spreading the wealth of different leads throughout the year. So I'll get into the Senior's year being a need Yes. Senior year. Just exactly like Elizabeth did.

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And we talked a little about housing for seniors today. Yeah.

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How many of us here feel that we are advocates by show of hand? Advocates for the seniors in this area.

1:54:500

Well, not really. Bear

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bear with me. I'm going somewhere. If I show a just have an email account. Alright. I I only wish there were

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us here today. We are missing some people. Because this seems like it's gonna be a very easy request since we are all advocates and we all have an email account. And we all saw the presentation, and the one thing that struck me that I still can't get over is by 2030, the number of seniors to become unhoused is gonna triple. So now you understand why we keep harping about affordable housing projects, and we're fighting for this. We're trying to fight against that number. Okay? Because those numbers are people. Okay? And I know some of them.

1:55:41 – 1:56:057

You know, I deal with these. Those are my piece, my nonprofit. So what I wanna say is coming up Tuesday, there's an event that has not happened yet before the board. There is a report that's done, and the state gives us eight years. Right now, it's 2021 to '29, and it it's called the annual progress report.

1:56:05 – 1:56:457

And it shows how many over moderate housing, how many moderate, and how many affordable housing we are building compared to how many we should be building. Okay? You guys have heard this before. What's changing is for at least the last three years, this report has been buried in the consent calendar. We've asked again and again, bring it out. Let's have a discussion. Yeah. They don't wanna do that. Because so far, I can tell you roughly, in four years, we have met all of our above moderate housing requirements. Out of eight years, we've done it in four years.

1:56:45 – 1:57:157

So we have no trouble building market rate housing for the people who have money. We I think now is the time since we've done that, and we've had another four years, maybe we could concentrate on affordable housing and even moderate so that we have rental units for workforce housing. Okay? Not just really low. So what I'm gonna ask you to do is I'm gonna send an email that has information about this that's coming up.

1:57:15 – 1:57:587

I'm gonna send it to Yasmin and ask her to send it to everybody. It's about the board item on Tuesday. It tells you where it's at and what and give you a couple of graphs, give you some background information, more than I can do. Because what I want you to do is send an email to the clerk of the board, copy the board members, and tell them why it's really important that we have more affordable housings. I want you all to be advocates for the housing committee. We've talked about this before. We want everybody to kinda help. If you and you don't have to go there and speak. It's kinda weird right now because I believe the way it works is you speak at 09:00 for everything that's gonna come up. So you have all this disjointed comments instead of the way it used to be.

1:57:58 – 1:58:297

They would have something that everybody would talk about. So everybody knew what you were talking about. We just saw it. They're working on that. I don't know how long this is gonna stand. They're gonna review it again. So we'll see. But right now, it's still kinda destroyed, but that doesn't affect you sending an email. And you will get a response from at least two of the supervisors thanking you for your your comments, which I always thought was really cool. It's like, wow. They know I'm out here. You know? Exactly. Now maybe it's just I can't respond. Okay. But still made me feel

1:58:290

good. Mhmm.

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So that's coming at you as advocates. Email, you don't copy what's in this email. This is more just to give you background information. Because I remember reading stuff back when, and you'd see five comments. You go, oh my god. There's five people. And you look at them, and the only thing different was the name at the top of the email. They they copied this email and send it out. Maybe five or six people sent this same email. So, basically, you got one email. That's why I used to. So we want you to say what you think, you're gonna have information to draw from. There's charts and and stuff like that. So

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yes. Do we sign it as a resident? Or

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Good question. I always sign my senior advocate Diamond Springs resident.

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We're not voting on this. You're not doing this as a commissioner. You're doing this as somebody who is you are an advocate for seniors, whether you're on the commission or not. So that's how I do it. And I tell them who where I live so they don't be my supervisors. Any other questions?

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So can you we could just have our one supervisor put consent, and then they have to

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Well, that hasn't happened in three years.

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This is now on the agenda. It's not on the consent calendar. It's on the agenda.

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It's on the agenda.

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Right. That's the big deal. But in three years, we have finally moved there. Something consent calendar. Everybody just got it went like this. It's gonna be on the agenda, so we you will be able

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to comment.

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Takes one supervisor

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to pull anything.

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Right. Well, I I would think in three years, maybe somebody would have done that, but it hadn't happened till now.

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Okay. Good. That's And I'm

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not sure. It might be Brooke, because Brooke is a is a friend of housing and the commission. So maybe that's why it is no longer being just kinda thrown through there. Big difference. It's something we've working out for years, and finally, it's like, wow. Oh, well, I thought so too, but three years of experience went to.

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Now I'm trying to yeah. Now it's to remember that

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we cannot do it as.

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Right. Like, opposite team works as individual citizens. Right. Bear that in mind. Yep. Right.

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Thank you very much.

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Alright. Good work. Okay.

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Sounds sounds like Tahoe would work. So, Jim, your housing, what you just said, leads right into a segue because Brooke and I are working in Tahoe, tandemly, on getting interested seniors to perform, let's say, not to perform duties to see where we are at locally at just Tahoe and not part of El Dorado because we kinda get data based and open based. So we wanna build our community on what our seniors need, where their housing constraints and things are as opposed to the county. So that's what we're working on. So, yes, Brooke is ahead of that.

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And I'm proud of her for stepping back in and sticking with it because she wasn't gonna run again. She is just stick with her down this, and so far, there's no closing people. So we we are making a difference as a whole. And, yeah, now is the time to unite or get off the box.

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I haven't talked about this. So,

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yeah, that's that's pretty much it. Er and I, you know, we try to do that monthly monthly meeting of the minds and have lunch together and collaborate and stuff, which is great because I love her anyway. But, yeah, it's time to have another one. But she she is very busy. But now, yeah, we're we're just we're moving forward, guys.

2:02:37 – 2:03:122

K. Great. Good to hear. K. And moving on to new business. Tina's going to talk a little bit about the outreach item, item three. I'm gonna talk about it in item four. Oh, okay. Can somebody just summarize why we are no longer having these big umbrella chairs coming, yeah, coming We're demanding. Yeah. Yeah. Just explain that.

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I think I might be able to speak to that. Okay. My last meeting with the supervisor, there as you're aware, the board of supervisors has revised their agendas, especially with the incumbent business at the beginning kind of thing. But there is if if we undergo scrutiny as a commission, the latest information on the Brown Act and such is that any standing committee of a commission or committee I hope I get this right. And then there has to be a public meeting, I.

2:03:49 – 2:04:334

E. Agendized and open to the public. So any standing committee meeting, we would have to open to the public and report it and do all these kinds of things. So correct me if I get this wrong. However, an ad hoc committee being topic specific and time specific, I. E. When the let me use senior year as an example. It's a one time only thing. Address it. We do it. We're done. That's an ad hoc committee. We accomplish it. We're done. Those do not have to be publicly expounded.

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So on our agenda, because if you looked at our old agendas, we have committees, the outreach committee, the South Lake Tahoe committee, the blah blah blah blah blah, and those come up on every agenda as committee reports. That makes them a standing committee, and so theoretically every time they got together we'd have to publicize it. So what we need to do is redefine how we structure our work and introduce ad hoc committees. I'm thinking the finance committee that you're on, generating committee, is ad hoc because it's not gonna go on forever. You're gonna have a goal.

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You're gonna refill the goal. And so that's an ad hoc committee. Otherwise, they would have to be public every time they did this. So we've gotta change, either dissolve some of the committees or change them to ad And the definition of ad hoc, it's very clear. Single purpose, single time.

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So what we're doing, and I think it's what we accomplished with the retreat, is that the outreach team, outreach committee, for example, we don't need an outreach committee anymore, because we are all supposed to be doing outreach. So there's no one committee, but we need to coordinate our efforts. So if we have an outreach coordinator who works with the AAA, works with INA, works with their outreach people to coordinate our efforts and make us aware of opportunities, I. E. The fair.

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Thank you, Jordan. That that's more acceptable. So as you see us restructuring our work, it's not that we're not doing the same work. It's just that we're restructuring it to what is necessity. And even our, what was the one on here, the executive committee theoretically should probably be a public meeting, but we'll have to work on that one.

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I think it's just an agenda setting meeting. Yeah. Whatever. So some of these things are gonna be named. Some of them are gonna be restructured, and that's kind of where we were going on the retreat by necessity. Did I cover it all well enough?

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I think you did. The only thing I think I would add is with any so if it's not a public meeting, then in an ad hoc meeting, you cannot have a quorum because then it's considered a commission meeting. Absolutely. Thank you. You just have to watch your numbers. You have a larger membership than some of the other commissions, but you just have to be careful that you don't have too many folks in an ad hoc because then it is no longer

2:07:21 – 2:07:414

I should have mentioned that. No more than seven voting members of the commission can be on any one of these ad hoc committees. That does not count special advocates because they're not voting. So special advocates can join any committee, But, again, time voting. Thank you. Good point.

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Senior housing or housing for seniors, I think we

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call Coordination.

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Coordination. I know it was ad hoc and for years, and then it became a committee. And now I notice it's not their committee report. It's a federal commission report. So I'm not a committee, which is cool. I don't have to for them. I'm coordinating all of our efforts as I did today.

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Exactly. And we're all we're all enjoying it just like you. Here all

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the way. It's all

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We're gonna

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find out, but I'll see how many there are in common. You'll see mine up there.

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Jim, you are coordinating the efforts of everyone, and so that

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it leads into our next item. You can

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still have your people telling me. Yes. But you're just coordinating them. Yes. I wanna be I wanna be clear all of that.

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I I I'm thinking we're we're

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way back up. So if if we want to form as an ad hoc committee Mhmm. Not committee, but an

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ad hoc group. Ad hoc.

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And you would have you

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would have you would submit it to Joan and say your what you want Mhmm.

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How long

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it would take, and what you

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would need. Your goals and how how you would you want measurables. You want a measurable goal at the end so that if you have an ad hoc committee, you know what you're going to do, what's the measurable end to it. It's like trying to end a war. You need

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to have a friend. Alright. Here's here's what I'm thinking. I'm gonna talk about outreach. So it's not an outreach type activity. Well, it has to do with the SPAM.

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Yeah. Okay. Okay. So do

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you wanna talk about that? Or

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Let me go through outreach Okay. And then bring that up as the your idea for the SPAM.

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That's definitely apical thing. Yeah.

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Yeah. So that's okay. But we'd have

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to work on it on the creation of it. Right.

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Okay. So we're moving into

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Thank you.

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The next item, which is disbanding the current committees of the outreach education and housing for seniors. And we've just this is explained why

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we're doing that.

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So because outreach was had so many pieces and activities throughout the year, and god bless Raelene for keeping us, you know, organized and coordinated. Yeah. We decided that we need to look at what we have done for outreach, and we need to break it out into these littler teams or ad hoc groups because they're gonna be short term deliverables, and we can just move up and disband and move on if needed. So let me let me explain to you how we decided how we're gonna handle outreach. And we basically came out with five areas to have a special coordinator.

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So I'm gonna go with the special event coordinator. So as Liz explained, she was she was the special event coordinator for senior of the year. So she will know what will disband that after May. But there are processes and procedures, so she doesn't have to reinvent the wheel every year. So those processes and procedures have already been written down. It's kinda like a tool kit. And whoever picks up that next year for senior year, they have a whole manual. Have to take We're

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going to triple it. Yeah.

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So it's cool. So, you know, what I'm envisioning is somebody that's gonna sign up, say, in the fall for, like, veterans events. There's gonna be somebody that's gonna step up and say, hey. I'm gonna be the special event coordinator for Veterans Memorial or some sort of recognition event. That person will step up. So it's just a temporary, you know, maybe a two month window, three months at the most that somebody's gonna stay. For Just coordinating.

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Just an assignment. Just an assignment.

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Publications, written articles, senior times. So thank you all for signing up for senior times. We're fully signed up for the rest of 2026. And I are just going to send out a friendly reminder that you're if you signed up for the month of August, your article's due a month in advance, so you're gonna have to submit your article in July. So yeah.

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So, anyway, we'll send out a friend friendly reminder, but that's about as much coordination as we're gonna do there. And the other thing that we will help, Bob and I, if you can't think of a topic, Bob and I will give you something about financial education, fraud, scams, whatever. So something simple, but, also you don't have to reinvent the wheel. We can use art. We can use NCOA. Whatever's already been published, just not make us have to reinvent the wheel. Plenty of stuff to to utilize. Tita, may

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I just say one thing? Mhmm. I just edited the April senior times, and your conversation reminded me there is not a push on aging article in the April. So I don't know if we missed it in our transition.

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No. We know. Okay. We weren't organized. Okay.

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Okay. Perfect. And I'll make a I'll make certain that we you know, we're reaching out if we don't have one. I just wanna make sure we didn't miss

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it in the transition from Rebecca to Emma. Yeah. Yeah. No. It wasn't the Rebecca. Okay. Translation. That was Thank you, Paige. Promoting senior services online, promoting online presence. This was actually discussed pretty good at February retreat.

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And Julie and Gail expressed interest in taking this on. So in conjunction with the guidelines from the AAA Health and Human Services, I think these folks need to start working on, you know, what are the guidelines, and then what are the brainstorming of how do we, you know, expand our online, our digital presence and go from there. And so, anyway, an ad hoc team to first do research.

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Yeah. Yeah. I I would need to call it a team. These are volunteers.

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Yeah. Volunteers. So, really, Julie and Gail at the retreat, they said, yeah. This is a good thing for us to explore. Yes. Yeah. So, anyway yeah. If I put somebody's names at some of these little little teams or, you know, assignments, no. Definitely. You can talk amongst yourselves and figure out if that's not how to talk amongst ourselves. Another thing I'm gonna leave

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you the number one.

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Okay. Outreach speakers bureau. So this was another thing that people wanted, especially the newer commissioners. They wanted a template for, you know, how do we present ourselves at either a formal speaking engagement, say, like, in front of a rotary club or whatever it is, fraternal organization. Liz and Raelene have been doing this for years.

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They already have a wonderful presentation that's already crafted for this. But I think with this new team of folks, because June and Gay wanna be able to do we're gonna there's a couple of other deliverables. So the the longer presentation, which I would say would be, like, a ten minute presentation to a large organization, that's already ready to roll, and they can customize it for whatever organization that is. But what we really need from this, and I heard different PSAs or triple As at the TAC meeting, is they have the elevator pitch. They have the templatized elevator pitch.

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So you meet somebody. You got thirty seconds or a minute to introduce yourself. Just switch out your name or add a little personalization. But, yeah, we should all have a little tiny elevator pitch ready ready to roll. So I would recommend that this team, after they knock out their long presentation, have the little thirty to, I would say, at the most minute elevator pitch.

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Because if you go and talk in front of an organization or say you're introducing yourself at the board of supervisors meeting and you are representing the commission on aging at those at those meetings. You have your little thirty second, one minute introduction, and then, boom, you've got the rest of the two minutes explaining your attitude. So, anyway, though, that's a deliverable for the Outreach Speakers Bureau, ad hoc, some deliverables that should be completed in the next three months, disband, and come together if needed for a special event that they wanna, you know, reprep. But definitely, three month window

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work, actually.

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Now here's something that is a longer term thing, and the vice chair, Julie, has agreed to step up for this. This is basically what I'm sorry. What did I So she's basically stepped up to sort of being like the the funnel for outreach events throughout the county. If in fact you as an appointed commissioner aren't aware of outreach events that we should participate in, Julie's gonna try and make sure that we are all knowledgeable of those events throughout the county and, you know, let us know, inform us. So it's a matter of what event should we be participating in.

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Julie will be doing this. But the other side of it is we do all do outreach. And, apparently, there's already a Google worksheet that is from that INA has that talks about the different events that are currently scheduled throughout the county. So we are gonna try to figure out how do we use a shared Google Doc pre event and post event. Because Raelene, if you remember, she would have a five page five or six page document by the end of or no.

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By November, it was a list of all the events that were we either attended, how many people we inter we talked to, and then the the following events that are coming in the future. So, anyway, we are all gonna have to pitch in to figure out how to populate this pre and post event document because we no longer have the talents of Aileen to to pull this together. So, anyway, this one is gonna need a little more definition, and we're gonna help Julie take this on. But all of us are gonna have to figure out how do we keep informed on events that we should participate in.

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I think it's important to note and for all you for the staff part is what I envision Julie doing is coordinating with INA. Because many times they need help. Beth, for example, can't be everywhere all the time. What can we do to supplement what INA has? What what additional information can we bring to them so that we don't duplicate efforts, but we supplement Right.

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The efforts of the INA group. We are not gonna strike off on our own necessarily, but we wanna make sure we're coordinating clearly with the needs of both INE and ourselves.

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And we've been already handed out at the February meeting a process for how we coordinate with INE. So, again, we don't have to reinvent the wheel. There's a whole process.

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Some while back. And it's been approved. Mhmm. Uh-huh. All the through the process. Good. And so we have that lined out. And I think as you look at it, we need to make adjustments, but I think it's good. Really adequate.

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And, additionally, for their statistics, when you come up to the state review thing is encounters. We have to have numbers of encounters. I think that's in the database from INA now. It is. It is. And it reads again that when we do the Google whatever Yeah. That I don't know anything about. But when we say we go and talk to somebody at a mobile home park, how many people did we get them?

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Right? Mhmm. That's the gist. Well, it's like my name said, 30 people at the Valentine's Day came up to the table. I spent that. So that's zero. Probably not.

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Oh, it's just a supplement I have to

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Yeah. Good. You'll see how the the inflammation that we y'all survive is the number of. And yeah. So yeah. So So

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it's a big picture, and it's the joint effort.

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Okay. Exactly. But

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Okay. So just, like, at the fair, we would we would track how many people come up, what level of details we need. It's like, what are they asking? And,

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again, we're supplemental with that. They're they're coordinating it with multiple agencies throughout HHSA, but we are supplemental to that. We are not the primary. We used to be primary. We created the whole idea. But, fortunately, because it grew, they now coordinate it. So, again, we're supplemental to that. I think the statistic they need to hear from us then is how many of us participated Right. Right. To supplement this and how many encounters did we actually use that they can add to theirs. Oh, kind of We don't need Because we're not primary with them. Okay.

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And we don't need in-depth. This is what We're we're talk more about the initial guide. Go ahead. Sounds good. Okay.

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Let's see. Now I believe we need to take a vote to disband the current committees of outreach and education and health procedures. I

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think so. K. I'll say this. Second. K.

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All in favor?

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Aye. Any opposed?

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K. Approved. Alright. Now we are on to our open forum. Did you just a minute. Were you going to officially assign, or was that the official sign up that you gave just now, Tita? Subject matter Yes. Unless people did not wanna be the people that I named, I got that wrong from the meeting.

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I think we're okay with that.

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Okay. Yes. We're good. Okay. We're And then then was Jenna going to say something? Oh, that's right. Yeah. Jenna had some. Yeah.

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Let's go. What I will do is make a pre make a thing before the next meeting. Okay. I understand about the spam. The I gave out the two pieces of paper. The one comes

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from our attorney.

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Our that little office is the best as far as I'm concerned. They have so much great information there. And a lot of it, I've asked Beth about, and they checked with the and so I can put it in packets and things. But spam is becoming very serious, and I would like not only I'll make it I'll I'll put down a a projected what I'm going to accomplish and because there's another problem out there that really concerns me. I've been going round and round with AT and T.

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AT and T threatened me, and then they actually sent a company after me, a collection company. And I had the receipt, And I've been finding them since October. And finally, the collection company said to me, any further correspondence, you have to go to the client. So I sent that to him and said, does this mean you believe me with all the data I've given you? And they sent back and said, AT and T has ninety days more to respond to you.

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So I'm thinking there's a need out there or a listing of where do you go? How do you do it? I called AT and T. I called the AT and T supervisor. I looked at the Better Business Bureau. I looked at California Consumer, and there was nothing to do. And I'm thinking, okay. I still have my mental capacities, but there are people out there that can't be driving all over the place. And there are people out there that have no idea what to do. Mhmm.

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So I'll make up a little thing. It would only take maybe two or three times of either just giving me information or suggestions or whatever or anybody that wants to help me out. But this is ridiculous. I mean, it's not considered scam, but it is a scam because if you take something back for AT and T to UPS, there's no tracking. No tracking that you can follow.

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If you pay for it, you can track it through UPS. But if you take it back and follow AT and T, there's no way to track it. So think of the people out there that don't understand all this. And I personally our legal department has given us what to do when your spouse dies, what to do when they've given us these five scam things, and I would like to see if we could have them go through and say, okay. These are suggested steps to be able to help. I I for the other seniors out there fighting some of this. That's it. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, dear. No.

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I just there's a need for it.

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You need to Terry, let's talk after

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a meeting. Sometimes you don't really know what's legitimate. And even, you know, if

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I receive a scam phone call, some of them are actually pretty good. Mhmm. Oh, yeah.

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Yes. Yeah.

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So it's hard for people who are, you know,

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not thinking straight not to get scammed sometimes because it's that's who they prey on. We all have examples. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Good information. Thank you. Okay. Now onto our open forum. I'm out.

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K. So on to topics for the next meeting or action items. Does anybody have anything specific that we should add to the agenda for next?

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This this wouldn't be for the next time. Linda Garamaldi told me that there's a man by the name of Sam Sam? Brown in the district attorney's office that deals with nothing but Spain. And it may be you know, at some point, he would might be a good person to

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help come talk about. And Linda and Linda and I

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are coordinating to get him on the agenda. Oh, okay.

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And there's there used to be a sheriff's deputy that would come speak in El Dorado Hills I can only speak to that was specific to scandalism and what to do and, you know, how we all should have that insurance against that. Because there's you know, Costco has a program for $12.99 a month

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that that offline.

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Protect their protect your identity.

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They also discuss at the mass meetings. And if you're not familiar with mass, come see me. I get so much out of them. They typically have somebody from the sheriff's office, the financial fraud team. I can't remember the name of them, but they give statistics about how many reported scams, financial abuse, elder abuse things, and they give dollar amounts, and it's shocking. And those are only reported numbers.

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This is a topic, Bruno, perhaps, the next meeting on VJEN.

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So it's like elder based. Oh, they target the elders. Or Yeah. It's Or So Social Security calls them. Their Medicare calls them, and they they have freaking sad. I sit up there

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and help them nine times out of 10. They just say, nobody's

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and I'm like, no. No. No. No. Please don't give them any information. They don't call you. They'll send you a letter. Please do not Please do. Yes.

2:30:134

Do not. I made a motion to adjourn. Okay.

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We have a second.

2:30:170

Second. Second. Third. Right.

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You need to adjourn. Thank you very much.

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