California Identification Remote Access Network - Regular Meeting

Yeah, I'll do the roll call. Member Freeland.

Here.

Member Haber. Here. Member Cole. Here. Member Laird. Here. Member Penn.

Here.

Member Rangel.

Here.

And Member Sage. We do have a quorum.

I next move on to the adoption of the agenda and approval of the consent calendar are there any committee members who would like any changes to the agenda or consent calendar. Know we're going to have public comment on the consent calendar.

We are now taking public comment on the consent calendar. Speaker will have three minutes to address the committee. We will begin with comments from individuals present in the meeting room, followed by those being on Zoom. If you're joining by Zoom, please ensure to unmute yourself when called upon. If you're joining by phone, press star nine to raise your hand. If you're on Zoom, use the raise hand feature to indicate your interest in speaking. We ask that you voluntarily state your name for the record before beginning your comments. Do we have any comments from the room? Seeing them now taking public comment from online participants. I'm not seeing any public comment.

All right, and I'll call for a motion and a second to adopt the agenda and remove them. Remember regular gal member and thank you.

We can do a voice vote. I know so all those in favor. All those in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed? No. Motion passes 5-0. We're now going to move on to open forum. Open forum is an opportunity for members of the public to address the committee on subject matter that is not on their meeting agenda, but within their jurisdiction. Public comments during open forum are limited to three minutes per person, and the committee chair may limit public comment during open forum. Each speaker will have three minutes. We will begin with comments from the meeting room and then from those on Zoom. Do we have any comments from the meeting room for open forum? Okay. Now taking public comment from online participants. Not seeing any public comment.

All right, next we're going to move on to agenda items. So item two, this is just a quick update. I've been in contact with Brian Deason from Eldorado Irrigation District just to see when the final EIR for project number is wrong.

Can I just read this into the record so that we know what members that are on Zoom and stuff. So Member Haber is going to provide an update on the status of the environmental impact report for the El Dorado Irrigation District modification of water right permit 21112 project. Thank you.

And just my only update is that Brian has said that he's anticipating the final EIR will be released end of June. So keep your eyes and ears posted for that one. That's all I have for that item.

Thanks, Natalie. Okay.

So do we have any public comment on agenda item two from the room? Okay. Now taking public comment on agenda item two from online participants.

Doesn't look like there's any public comment. All right.

Before we move to three, can I bring it back to the committee for a minute? Does anyone here feel like there's a next step after the final EIR that we want to do with the community? It's not really any next step in terms of the EIR process, but in terms of outreach or notifications or whatever, do we want to do anything else after the EIR is filed?

I feel like I'd like to read the final EIR.

And then decide.

And then make some choices, yeah.

So our next meeting is not until August 6th, yeah. So I think we'll have time. Yeah, it comes out at the end of June.

That's what he said. Yeah, anticipating.

Typically 30 days. But if we ask for more time, we can do that.

Well, it's the final, so they're not going to take more comments on the final. That's the draft final that they're going to make the comments on. So this is just really, at this point, it's now, what does the community want to do, depending on what the AIR comes out with. So yeah, I guess that's what we need to do. We'll put it on the August agenda then.

Okay. This ties into that a little bit. I understand that In addition to the Eldorado Irrigation District proposal for permit 21112, there was a presentation, I believe, at the last meeting from Eldorado County on the water reliability project for an additional, that would be an additional $40,000. So I think at this point, I'm having a hard time understanding like where those projects could overlap and what the total cost change in diversions would be. And so I think that comes into play. And we're thinking about the like environmental impact report. So I'm not sure if there is someone that could speak to that either with one of the agencies or an outside group might be helpful for the community to understand and what timelines the El Dorado County water reliability project is working on. So I agree.

Yeah. So just an update. I mean, that project is a lengthy project still ahead of them, but you're absolutely right. Their EIR will have to take into account EIDs, the version, if it gets approved.

Right. Yeah, that's true.

They don't have to do it if they don't. They probably will mention it and reference it, but they don't necessarily have to take it into account. And the process time-wise for EDWA, El Dorado Water Authority, is going to be You know, probably easily six months to a year plus before they even get started on it, I would guess what Rebecca is saying. But, you know, we could definitely put on the August agenda, maybe a update on the timing of that. We can find out from Rebecca the timing update. We're going to see Rebecca Tuesday. Yeah.

Okay. And remind me, who's Rebecca again?

She's the Executive Director of the Water Authority.

Okay.

Thank you. So we're ready to move on to item 3? Yes. Okay. So committee to receive and file an update from the River Management Plan Ad Hoc Committee.

So my only update at this time is I've been in touch with Zach from El Dorado Parks and Trails, and he is anticipating that the RMP update is going to go before the Planning Commission in either August or September of this year.

Okay.

So keep our eyes and ears posted for that one. And he said he'll let us know when it gets scheduled. So we have plenty of time.

Great. So a question, Nellie, I'm assuming then that they haven't, they don't have the draft of what they're going to give them.

No. He made it seem like legal was having to do a lot of work on the process.

I hope that legal is doing a lot of work on the process. So hopefully we will get a heads up or a draft of that before it goes to the planning department. Hopefully. Hopefully before it gets posted on the website too. Maybe not.

That is my update on that. We can take public comment on agenda item 3. I'll go ahead and read the instructions as we have somebody new that's joined on Zoom. Each speaker will have three minutes to address the committee. We will begin with comments from individuals present in the meeting room, followed by those participating on Zoom. If you're joining by Zoom, please ensure to unmute yourself when called upon. If you're joining by phone, press star nine to raise your hand. If you're on Zoom, use the raise hand feature to indicate your interest in speaking. We ask that you voluntarily state your name for the record before beginning your comments. I'm seeing no public comment from the meeting room now taking public comment from online participants. I'm not seeing any public comment. Item number four comes from the clerk of the board staff recommending that the committee review the draft annual report to the Board of Supervisors and approve the report with any recommended changes and present the final report to the Board of Supervisors on September 15th at 3 o'clock. And member Haber has put together this very nice presentation. There is an updated version in your packets from what was originally emailed out. So we want to just have it up on the screen. So it makes it a little bigger. All right, everyone.

So just a brief overview on who is CLAC. Howard helped me out a lot with this based on his presentation last year. So CLAC was established in 2019. The committee's geographic area of responsibility should have a limit to the Coloma-Lotus Valley, including the area of influence along the South Fork of the American River from Chili Bar Dam to Folsom Lake. The purpose of CLAC is to review and make recommendations to the Parks and Recreation Commission, the Planning Commission, and the Board of Supervisors. CLAC is comprised of seven members, a business representative, an outfitter representative, a non-commercial water representative, two landowner resident representatives, and two members at large. Move on to the next slide. And I apologize ahead of time. I already told Nate, but I did forget him on this slide. So Nate, I already wrote you in here on my notes. So I will add Nate. I also realized you're not secretary. Nate is secretary. So I will fix that as well.

Sorry, Nate. No worries. I probably left about my presentation.

Moving on, just going over what collaborative projects we're working with El Dorado County. Last year, the Department of Transportation came and provided updates on emergency repair that was done to Mount Murphy Bridge based on accidents that happened in 2021 and also again in 2025 that closed the bridge down for some time. and also came in with some plans and ideas for their bridge replacement project. That's still ongoing. The second was the Henningsen Lotus multi-use trail. We also received updates from DOT regarding the Class 1 trail from HLP to SR 49 and provided feedback. That's still an ongoing project. Secondly, or thirdly, we received presentations from Eldorado Irrigation District projects regarding the modification of Water Right Permit 2112 project. And we provided input to their draft EIR. And we are currently awaiting their final EIR to be released, which we will discuss at that time at our next meeting. Our fourth topic, we have a Dark Sky Initiative Ad Hoc Committee, which a member, Sage, and I are working on. Just provide the community with education resources on all the wonderful things you can have can happen if you point your lights down instead of up. Moving on to the next slide some more projects big one this year or last year sorry for 2025 was the river management plan update. So we create an ad hoc committee which provided extensive input and feedback to the r&p update I was md chair of that ad hoc committee meeting like I mentioned earlier, it is currently going for the planning Commission in August or September. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And zach anticipates that the county will adopt it for next year so. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Just some more additional romantic plans we've had meetings with the parks and trails Commission had really great input from the Community from outfitters from landowners just a really great overall working. project that I think everyone got really happy with in the end. Second, but not least, Chili Bar Planning, just ongoing recommendations for Chili Bar Park, how to best keep it open and operating. It's a wonderful resource for the community. So just anything we can do to help. Finally, we reviewed our governing documents. The committee reviewed their bylaws in August of 2025 and made updates which were approved by the Board of Supervisors in October of 2025. Um, there were two things I didn't put on this presentation that Kaylee recommended that I add, I wanted to discuss with everyone before I put them on. Um, the first one, do we feel like we haven't had any challenges as a committee? Is there anything that we would like to, you know, discuss about challenges or issues?

Leadership that we replaced.

Okay. Yeah.

I'm just kidding. Um, a couple of things. One, um, I think it,

I think it would be great if, well, I don't know if they're ever going to do anything, but I think Chili Bar planning is up in the air and I'd like to have some guidance. I think that we need to do something with that or give it away or I don't know. It's just sitting there.

So I guess the question that Nate's posing is we spend time. I think the question that Kaylee is asking us as a committee is to, and when we're speaking to the board of supervisors, what would be suggestions or recommendations and how we can make this committee more effective and the feedback that we would give to the county on things that, um, know help us do that right so i think the way that i would translate that tell me if i'm wrong me no we got it is that we really appreciate the support and the resources the county gives us to to involve the community in these decisions and when we make recommendations back up through the county we'd love to be able to have a more dynamic process back and forth kind of dynamic process in terms of input and feedback input we did a lot of work on the chili bar planning process with vicky and then you know now but it just kind of fell short hasn't done it hasn't gone anywhere we're not blaming anyone we're just saying we'd love to hear why and maybe have that feedback loop closed as a committee as part of the process so and that would be true of many of these things you know we've had a really good process with and i think you could probably say this the board we've had a really good process for the River Parks and Rec on the River Management Plan really engaged there. We've had other processes that maybe not as much. I think the Chili Bar one was because of the change of staffing, so we're not going to blame it.

As I look back over the last three or four years in particular, the Corona Ranch subcommittee, we didn't come to a resolution, but the county is making some choices based on what we came back with. They know they're sitting there. That's the whole thing we don't hear back from them we send things up it doesn't come back doesn't get on and I think that's a good that's the feedback I think that's the appropriate yeah, the other thing I would mention is under additional or managed plan updates, I think are you speaking you said as well as the parks and trails commissioner to parks and Recreation Commission. The county parks and Rec Commission, yes, yeah, I don't so yeah, I don't I don't Are we working with the Trails Commission also? Is there a Trails Commission? There is.

Well, it went, correct me if I'm wrong, but it went to Parks and Trails Commission first.

No, he's asking if the nomenclature is the same.

Parks and Recreation Commission is Parks and Recreation. Parks and Recreation.

And you just had it. I don't know that there's a separate Trails Commission. I think there's a subcommittee for the Colorado Trail. I don't think it's a subcommittee. So I just want to point that out. You want to make that Parks and Rec? Parks and Rec. Isn't that right, Ken? It's Parks and Rec Commission, right? Not Parks and Trail. Did they change their name and not tell us? Parks and Rec. Okay. I could also imagine they changed their name and we didn't know.

Thank you for pointing that out to me. um okay so besides any basically we'd like a little bit more feedback from our feedback yes any other challenges that we'd like addressed well all right my second question is do we have any might be a bigger project or topic do we have any goals or a work plan that we'd like to have accomplished for next year like any big overarching goals that we'd like to let the county know about i think nate brought up a great one basically what's going on in Chilliwack Park.

Yeah, so I think if we were to highlight parts, I'm thinking process, but maybe we get into projects. I think process is working great now that we have wonderful support and staff to help us with this. It was a cluster when I was doing it. I think in terms of projects, yeah, HLP and the bridge, those are going to be the two ones in 2027. Okay. That would be big projects. So we have no idea what's going to happen to the class one until they get funding, but this bridge is on the schedule.

Is it happening next year?

I don't know that's going to happen next year. I know it's going to be within the next year or two, depending on timing of stuff. So it's going to be 2027 or 2028 that they do that project. The other thing that came up has been, and this is a smaller priority because it's still on the wishlist, is pedestrian and bike lanes from Lotus Road, Highway 49 intersection to the state park. And Caltrans has said that they are interested in that to work with the transportation. So that would be another project. Additional... facilities and bike lanes and stuff like that.

Sorry, guys. Okay. A little vehicle accident on North Channel Road. Had to do a 20-minute detour. Wow. Everyone okay? Not sure. I was in traffic for 20 minutes and didn't tell us anything and everyone started turning around.

I was like, all right, I'm going around Greenstone. Wow.

We were just going I'm Natalie hello again. We're just flying over my presentation for the board of supervisors basically what we're doing what we did last year. Does anyone have anything else that big I mean things for next year?

What do they want to spend?

The presentation is September 15th.

This is part of the presentation. Let me check the schedule because we have to have the presentation attached.

This packet need is like an outline of what the presentation is supposed to be. Yeah. Okay. If you needed to make final changes by the August meeting, that should be okay. That'd be okay. Just the leave time for the agenda items from us to the board is like, it takes a while to get through the approval process. So if there's anything final that you want to make updates to, it should be okay. Okay. Thank you so much.

Yeah.

Big audience today.

Um, does anyone and then my last side was just for the thinking the board of supervisors for their times. Does anyone have any edits or anything they'd like me to change or add this presentation? Happy to make any changes to the edits.

Besides adding Nate back in and having me back in and parks and records.

Yeah. I would, I would comment on the fact that when we have topics on our agenda that, um, the community is concerned about, there's a lot of engagement. Great. That's one of the things I know that they often deliberate about. Kaylee can correct me if I'm wrong, but, you know, whether or not community involvement in these commissions is valuable. And so I think just letting them know that I don't remember if we took a count like at the EID presentation, but this was a very...

I think there was at least 30 people.

Yeah, not more. And I know we've had presentations or we've had other meetings where we've had close to 50 to 60 people and the topic is topical and germane. So just letting the board know that it really is helpful.

There's only 50 more than we have tonight. Wait, 49 more.

Because I'm listening. They like to know. I mean, you don't have to have... Wonderful turnout in every night if you don't have important things. But when we do, people show up. They do show up for things.

Anyone have anything else they want to add?

I really appreciated the update that you gave earlier from the El Dorado Irrigation District. And I know that a lot of people in the community kind of feel that same way of like, oh, this was really exciting. And then what is that next step? And maybe that's a, you know, in terms of goals for the committee is like, maybe that's a service that we can do is like keep people apprised of the things that they're really excited about or concerned about. I know personally, even just as a community member, it's hard to keep track. So just an idea.

That's a good question. That's come up before in past years. Is there a tool at the county, like Kaylee, can we use, I don't think the county would want us to use the county site, right, to disseminate information between meetings, not officially in meetings. They don't, they really want to just be part of the official.

Yeah, I don't, because of the Brown Act, it would be.

So would it be okay if we set up like a third party page? I mean, I can set up a web page on Coloma.com that was really for updates and outgoing information from CLAC. And we could put it there and send people to a link and, you know, give updates between meetings if there's information or does it have to go through the...

Let me check on that. I don't know. It's a really good question.

The Brown Act is complicated when it comes to doing outgoing information between meetings.

Yes.

And the promise as committee members is we want to be careful that we're not doing something. Even as an individual, like I wouldn't mind if Natalie gave me information to put on the web page, I put it out, but if it's. Breaking some law because we're doing that.

So, and I know the board has like their newsletters for each district that they do, but I don't know if it, because it's so specific to their district that it's not. It's a little bit different.

You guys are all in the same... Well, there are also elected officials that have their outdoor... I don't even think the county... I don't think the county pays for those new letters.

It goes through our GovDelivery.

Oh, it doesn't go through GovDelivery? Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, so just ask if there was a way for us. I think I really like that suggestion. If there was a way for us to develop vehicle by which we could put out information if we're not having meetings or even post meetings because nobody goes to the CLAC website or watches this video, so...

I don't know how many people we have subscribed, but there's the GovDelivery service that anybody in the community can sign up for. And it's any board committee or commission notification if there's an agenda or minutes published. And they can also get updates on projects through the GovDelivery subscription.

So maybe that's the place that like Natalie could have you post information and then we could just send out an email on CL News saying, if you want to do this, click here to go to this link.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I'd have to find out if I'm going to be allowed.

Yeah, that's where we had to find out.

It's a really good question.

We use CL News to announce these meetings because I think there's very few people on the gov.

I think it's quite a list for the gov.

No, I know for all of it, county-wide, but just for CLAC. Oh, really?

I can look, and maybe it's something you want at a future meeting that we could go through. How do you subscribe? Yeah. Because we can't really talk about it unless it's agendized. I don't even know how to describe it. It might be something to walk through. Then at other committees, we've had walkthroughs about how to navigate, you know, the county legislature website. So if your goal is to, one of your goals is to help get more public awareness of the meetings, that's something that we could have an agenda item. Could we put that on the agenda? We could, yeah. That'd be great.

Was there a difference between the Public Information Act and Brown Act? I mean, yes, there is. I want to understand, but I mean, like once the minutes have been approved, right, it can be disseminated outside the county website because they're approved.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So it's. I think what's being asked is not so much the formal information that Kayleigh puts together for the meetings, but these updates, like if we have an update on EID, if we have an update on... Oh, that hasn't been talked about. Or it's been talked about, it's going to get buried in minutes in a video that no one's going to see. We can't summarize what's going on? That's what we're asking, Kayleigh. And we legally summarize the minutes or put links to information or just put an announcement out. This is the update. I don't see how that would violate the boundary. You'd be surprised. I agree with you. It seems common classical, but that's not. That'd be great. Thank you.

Thank you. I think that's going to conclude, or wait, no, we have public comment. Yeah, we'll take public comment.

So we're now taking public comment on agenda item four. Each speaker will have three minutes to address the committee. We will begin with comments from individuals present in the meeting room, followed by those participating on Zoom. If you're joining by Zoom, please ensure to unmute yourself when called upon. If you're joining by phone, press star nine to raise your hand. If you're on Zoom, use the raise hand feature to indicate your interest and ask that you voluntarily state your name for the record before beginning your comments. Seeing no public comment from the meeting room. Now taking public comment from online participants. Taking public comment from MacGyver and company.

Yes, this is Julia McKeever and thank you CLAC members for being here tonight and for allowing me to speak. I wanted to bring up a few things that are both part of this agenda item and also of more perhaps general interest. In looking over what CLAC has done recently or in the recent past, There was a mention of Chili Bar and I just wanted to point out that as an example, the county dedicated a million dollars to working on Chili Bar to theoretically carry out the goals of the Chili Bar plan. It's been several years and a lot has happened, but I'm not entirely sure what exactly has happened. What I do know is that the signal thing that the community said they wanted was a restroom and it still isn't there. So I don't know if there's any money left, but that is something that CLAC could look into. And I hate to use the word investigate, but, you know, look into and see what the scoop is on that. And that would be an extremely valuable investment. service to the valley. With Cronin Ranch, which was also brought up, the BLM and the county have had many meetings about that and meetings with members of the public. I was on the Parks and Trails or Recreation Commission for quite a while and did so myself. And the last I knew about it. BLM and the county were theoretically working together to transfer that property, to actually sell that property to BLM. Now, things have changed at the federal level since then. So I don't know what's going on with it right now, but that was the intent. And that would be far better, I think, than just, you know, finding a random person to give it to. So that's another thing where CLAC could be very helpful in terms of providing information, impetus, whatever is appropriate for the local community. In terms of this specific item, I would suggest that the CLAC consider adding an item to the board presentation that describes the critical link that CLAC provides for the Valley community, which is often the most affected by a number of things that are under the county's jurisdiction. For example, the EID, well, sorry, County's jurisdiction, the river management plan, which has a very direct impact on residents and visitors to the valley and businesses in the valley. Other information flow, since that's what you were just talking about, that also directly affects the valley.

That's the three-minute timer.

What wonderful whole music.

Good heavens. Well, that depends on how you...

Anyway, I'll try to be quick.

I'm sorry I'm running over. I just wanted to mention that something like the EID proposal is really, as you saw from the people who attended, is really important information that we may not be getting through any other platform. And so just very quickly, I'd like to go into what you were just talking about, which is that the Brown Act is about decision making. It's not necessarily about information dissemination. And as one of your members pointed out, if the information is public, we may not get it, but it is up for further public dissemination. And the CLAC is an excellent example. conduit to gather that information and get it out to the people that it serves. So I would strongly recommend that the CLAC consider having some kind of mechanism whereby even between meetings, any updates to items that have been considered by the CLAC or are going to be could be posted such that if, you know, the EIR is out for something, but you guys aren't having a meeting, then we could still have access to that information through your dissemination mechanism.

And I'll stop there. Thank you, Julia.

Not seeing any additional public comment.

I'm going to bring this back to the committee and call for a motion and 2nd.

Yeah, well, I didn't know if you want if the committee wants to approve it as it is now, or if there's a plan to bring it back. I guess the plan will be to bring it back. Make that it's bring it back to the August meeting.

And approve it that time.

Sure. I might suggest we have no idea about August. So we could approve it now with the edits that are being made. And if we have another meeting in August, we can still put it on the agenda and update it at that time. So that just covers our butt in case, for whatever reason, a bunch of us can't make it. If we don't have a quorum in August, then we're screwed. I would make the motion that we approve the presentation of the Board of Supervisors as presented with the included edits. Yes, with the included edits. I'll second that.

All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 6-0.

Yes, yes. Okay.

Oh, you can.

Okay. Next, moving on to ad hoc committee reports. Already reported on the RMP ad hoc committee. Member Sage, unfortunately, could not make it tonight. He's the chair of the Dark Skies ad hoc committee. He and I have been talking, and we're going to get the Dark Skies committee back on the ball rolling.

Excellent.

Yes.

Good update.

Yes. Next, we're going to move on to committee member reports. Does any committee member have a brief report or announcement that they'd like to bring up in this meeting?

Yeah, Howard and I to a lesser degree, but I'm working with them. We're taking Rebecca Gow and 17 of her colleagues at the El Dorado Water Agency on a river trip Tuesday on the South Fork. And it'll be run by, there'll be four outfitters that are providing a boat and guides. I'll be on a trip, Howard will be on a trip, and we'll have a couple of folks from Friends of the River. We just want them to see the river and enjoy it. My guess is a lot of them probably haven't. It'll be an opportunity for us to let them get to know what we do a little bit better on that little thing out there and maybe get some perspective from them.

Yeah, this is not an official plaque trip at all. No, it's not. This is just a few of us community members that over the years have done these type of river trips to help familiarize, we call them fam trips, familiarize decision makers on this river. And it's been extremely helpful over many decades of doing this. Nate used to run the Whitewater Wednesday, you know, the media days years ago where we used to invite a whole bunch of journalists to come down the river. So it's a good way to build relationships with people that are making decisions about the water that flows down this river. Yeah. So Howard's hiking and we're running. Well, no, Nate's helping me with this.

You're doing a chili bar or a gorge?

Gorge. We're doing a gorge. We won't eat lunch at yours. That's not what I was asking. And if we did, we'll call and ask you in advance if we can. I wouldn't let you guys.

They don't have anything else they'd like to add? That's it for committee member reports. Our next meeting is August 6th. I'm just going to remind members to submit agenda item requests to the chair and clerk at least two weeks prior to the meeting. And with that, I'm going to adjourn our meeting tonight at 6.35 p.m.