Town Council - Regular Meeting

[Music] and the other um every other uh resident and uh folks that helped us out with with the uh donations of desserts and things like that. Or may I may or may not know from personal experience how good some of those desserts were. But uh a big thank you to everyone for uh for your support.

Hey, we have sound. Oh, what did you push? Don't ask me what I did today. We won't ask you a lot of buttons. I just spit on it. And that's what I have for the fire report. Awesome. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Ferguson, do you have a report? Police. Police. Oh, put it on here. It's not a It's not a police report. It's on mine. It's on mine. You've got a mine. All right. Oh, we'll keep moving.

We ready? Sure. Go for it. We are broadcasting now. Yes, we are broadcasting. We were completely

All right. Well, I got a lot. So, everybody put your seat belts on so you can fall asleep and won't fall over. Um, first thing I would like to do is, um, this is actually my first year here. I was hired July 1st of 2024 and Tom Brewer, if you're listening, thank you again, Tom. Um, he retired September 27th, so I've technically been in charge for a year. So, uh, thank you, Edgewood. Um, all the members of council been very accommodating. Dale at the fire department's been accommodating and all his crew, Chad here at the fire department as well. Catherine and Steve as well. Uh, ladies in the office, Wendy and Chrissy have been amazing to me. And last but not least would be Carl, the man that works with me on a daily basis is he was he's an asset. He's just an asset to Edward. So, it's been uh it's been a privilege to be here. So, thank you all and all the residents that I've met. I it's been a good experience. So, I really appreciate that. Um let's try to get through this stuff. Um first one is to young Mr. Austin Bragg who brought up the idea of solar lights last

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I have looked into it. Um, I'm not finding anything that is going to be very useful to us yet, but I I'll give you my word. I won't stop looking just yet. So, I haven't found anything that would fit an application that we might be interested in. So, um, all right. Next one is, uh, Mr. Serve handed me this piece of paper here. This is a a diagram of a piece of road work that we might be doing at Ivy and Oakwood. Um there is a bit of a drainage problem there. Um so we are going to look at fixing that drainage problem. Um Steve said he was going to meet a contractor out there sometime next week or early later this week.

This week first part of next.

Okay. So this you guys want to see that I pass that down through so we can move closer to that once we get something back from the from Steve and the uh the contractor then we'll see what we can do about that. So um also in front of you you have the water tower inspection report. Um, not real sure if you guys read through that, but if you look at I don't know what page it is, but it says summary and it's got exterior, exterior dry areas, interior wet areas, things of that nature. It's toward the back of your paper.

It'll look like that right there. Yep. There.

It's in the back. Yeah, that's going to have mainly your information of what they really saw. You know, those you can see on the other pictures, I know you got black and white and I've got color, but on the pictures they talk about the coating on the outside, the inside of our water tower, what's good, what's bad, or poor. They use the word poor in there. Um, for anybody that'd like to, I actually have video of a submersible that is swimming around inside the tank to show what it looks like inside the tank. And for anybody that wants to know, it is clear water. So, it's clear water, but you can see a little bit of sediment in the bottom of it. You can see a little bit of surface rust on the inside and things like that. So within on the summary within the next few years we're going to need to have that cleaned andor repainted at the same time. So those are just upgrades that are going to need to be done. Now the inspection is supposed to be done every 10 years. Um with all the other stuff I got to talk about. This is just another thing that I'm going to have to try to figure out how we're going to pay for this. So it will need to be done. and

this our budgets are well they need help. So anyway, does anybody have a question on on the water tower? Okay. And keep in mind I've got three videos on my uh on the computer at home. So uh Mr. pick it or is there a way that you might be able to put this on the website for us this inspection report? Yes. Do you have a PDF or do we need to or is you just have a paper copy? I've got an email. Email it. I'll give you my email and email it to

Yeah, we can do whatever we need to do. If you come over to the office, you I mean even if there's a way you want to put the videos in there, you mean when I come over to the office? Well, okay, that's it. I visit Don a lot. Yeah. Well, you're in the parks though. That's true. So on this it looks like we've got some issues, but we're at repair, not replace. Yes, it it is all just repair. It's just for all fixable kicks and giggles here when this is taken down to do the interior. What happens to the water? That was my question.

Well, we would be running without the tower. So it has been done before. We would be able to do that. Your your service would not be interrupted. just it just means the pumps is going to run a lot longer than so right now the system it fills the tower up and then it waits then the pressure comes down so low and then the then the pumps kick on and push more water out so the pumps will probably stay on and typically how long does that process take?

I'm going to guess it's going to be between five and seven days. Um now that's just when they go to do the inside. Now, the outside, it shouldn't shouldn't bother us at all to have the outside painted or even the inside dry area up inside the tower itself. But the actual bowl, I'm going to anticipate five to seven. Um, and I will look for a contractor to do that. I don't know that I will use Maguire again. Um, they were I think that their inspection report is very good, but their communication back and forth with me was a little lacking. So, but I did find the the inspection cost us close to $2,200, you know. So, but I thought that was a very good price with what I had priced out, but there service getting back with me is a little lackly. So,

so the five the potential for five to seven days of the tank being down. Um I think I think at that point we we bypass the tank and then everything is coming directly our reserve is coming directly then from the well and just bypassing the tank. Yeah. What we have in filters? Yes. Which filters will be close to a,000 each. So maybe 4,000 gallons in there. Two showers. Two showers. Two showers. Now, when we get it repainted, what's the expenditure to make it look like a golf ball on a golf? I just think I don't know, but I'm going to say it's pretty expensive.

Dang it. I I really I really don't know. Can I paint it? Have you seen the uh That would be really cool. Maybe she's shaking her head. Now, years ago when they did have the uh the tower out at Nestle's put up the uh if I remember correctly for a quart of that paint, it's a tenemic paint that is helps resist the sun's rays and all that UV protected and everything was about 50 bucks a quart. And it's going to take quite a bit to paint that tower. So that would be from top to bottom. So, we don't have to paint it yet? No, we don't. We just have to clean.

Hopefully. Well, we will definitely want to do the inside within a couple of years and we could probably go three to four years on the outside. when we do do it. So hopefully by then we'll

be moving forward with some other projects and hopefully we can find some money which let's let's talk about finding money next which the uh lead service line that has uh it's kind of blown up in a in a bad way for us in the fact that the state has finally said because we have less than a thousand service connections. They are not giving us any grant money whatsoever. They are going to make us do that all by ourselves. And then in their infinite wisdom with the potholeing that I wanted to do to do the identification on the the property owner side and our side, they are now not accepting that. They say we need two points and they say if we do it that way, that is only one point. So I have to get into the home. I have to see it either go underneath into the crawl space or where the meter is and then they want us to do it at the connection at the main. Well, some of those are in the streets. So, those are going to cost hole cuts and that's going to be extremely expensive. The original what I had for us to do the whole the pot holeing was $65,000 to do 20%. Okay. Now, doing the two which getting into the homes will be a challenge to make arrangements which we do have to put out new letters again. The same letters that you got last year. You're going to receive those letters again this year. And before anybody panics, there is not lead in the water because we got those calls last year. There is no lead in the water. Now, they're going to pay particular attention to the 20%. There

is a certain amount of addresses, and I don't know what those are. Those are going to get special letters and the fact that we're going to want you to identify the water line that is in your home. If you cannot do that, then you call us and we will come and do that for you. At the time that we do come and do that for you, we're going to change your water meter because the water meters are over 10 years old and they got to be replaced. That's an industry standard. So about 170 to 180 services, we're going to have to go out and identify those 100 in 180 in those people's homes. Whether they identify it for us or not, we have to do that. Also, what they changed was now they're saying once you do that 20%, it used to be you were going to be done.

Now they've changed that that they're going to want you to do another 20% on top of that. Well, that leads me to believe that they're not going to stop until they make everybody do an absolute 100% verification of every single line that we have. everybody's residents and every single one at the tap at the water man. They are looking for galvanized and they're looking for lead. We do not have any lead services. We've not found one. We're not going to find one. Some people do still have galvanized service in their home but not leading to their home. We have seen that in some homes. vers of the homes thing there. Every single one of them, unless you've had your line replaced, is copper. Okay. Now, one of the things we do have is we do have lead gooseenecks at the mains. I hate that. But the rule is when they go to make us verify that the rule is once you see that lead then we have to take it out which that's just some pipe fitting and we are able to do that at that time. Myself and Carl have the skill to do that. That's not a huge deal. But we're still looking to try to find funding for this. Now, Wesler was the engineering that we were using and he tried to get the state, which was given from federal money, the way I understand it, $64 million to the state of Indiana. And because we were less than a thousand, we couldn't even get a a dab of that money. So what he tried to do was he said there were other agent or other cities and towns that he was

working with that got that money but they didn't use all of their money. So he tried to get them to give us that money and they still said nothing. So that was a real bummer to hear that. Did Did they tell you what was the minimum size town? Thousand service connections or more. Anything less than a thousand service connections you didn't they're not giving you any money. So, we just need to find one more family to move in.

Well, we need to find a couple. And I know that I have expressed a uh an idea with Mike about expanding Edgewood at one time. But that's let's save that for another day. But anyway, um no, um I've got a uh a call 10:00 Wednesday morning with another agency. He believes he's going to be able to get us some money. So, I I'm not holding my breath and I hope you don't hold yours either. But if we don't get any service, if we don't get any grant money, then the the federal the state house, the state is putting this all on us. And we're not going to be the only ones in the state that are going to be seeing I mean I'm estimating for our 20% it's going to be at least probably 100,000 to do those little potholes in yards with 65. Now we're going to have hole cuts and things like that. It's it's going to be more expensive.

Yes, sir. Don, you were talking about two points of service that you have to check now as opposed to the one that you originally were going to do. Yes. So, one of the points of service can be inside the property where the line comes in. Correct. Yes. And then the other one would be outside. And you don't have to do both of those at the same time. You could do like the insides right away and then we can get to the outsides as we get to them. Yes. That would probably be beneficial. Well, that's going to help us the longevity of it. So, we have to have our 20% done by November of 27. And you also said that uh there'll be a letter going out to the houses that are decided this is where this must be take place.

They gave me a they Yes, they gave me a list. The state does this. We did not have the choice in this. They gave us 20%. Then they gave us another 20% on top of that in case there are reasons why we weren't able to do the ones the first 20%. So they pick the homes. They pick them. We don't get to pick them. and the the individuals that live there can give you sign out that uh this is what it is and that's sufficient for study or you have to go in and actually

No, they can do that as long as they know what they're looking at. I mean and and believe me, I've heard this before is my waterline's pink. Okay. Did you paint the wall pink? Yes, we did. Okay. So then it means you painted the wall and the water line. So your waterline is not pink. There's It's not Some of them say it was black and spongy. Well, that's not a That's a cover. Yeah, that's the insulation that you put around your water line to keep Okay. So, what you're going to have I need to see it coming out of the floor if you're in a basement coming through the wall like yours was. Mhm. Um it's going to be either copper or plastic into the meter and well into the hole.

Yeah. Yeah, but a lot of them like like in your case comes right straight up and it's right there at the water meter. So, but they're supposed to send those letters to those specific homes so they can and I don't know what number they gave. They probably gave the office number which that'll Christy really happy. And do you have a copy of those homes yet or is that something

I do have a copy of those and I've been working on some of those and some of those that they wanted us to do the pot holding we changed because you have some of those that are in easements like all down uh Magnolia which is right behind us. Half of Edgewood Drive over here. They're in the back of the homes down Park Road and Magnolia right here. Then there's a few right over off Edgewood over here. as would drive and down uh Nickel Avenue here, State Road 32, however you want to look at, those are going to be the ones that are going to be very difficult to identify. So, this this project here just went from okay to I really don't like them. [Music] I'm really trying to be nice about it.

And then this is also um some of the issue is is we we really don't have the money to do that. It's going to be budgeted very I I I mean I've been watching it close. I've been trying to be the best steward of the money that I can. Um, my major focus is on the our wells and right now they're going to start the other filter at the plant this week. Okay. To me, ensuring the water source is the most important. I'll worry about the actual distribution part of it later, but to make sure that the water is safe, that's where my main concern is. But they are going to make us do that and that is going to have to be done by 2034 whatever amount of completion. Now they're they've upped it to 40%. I know they said 20 and then they said 20. Well, my math says 40% that way. So I have to do and then I'm pretty positive they'll come back and say, "Oh, we'll do another 20%." You know, because it just doesn't it's free. It must be. We're going to have it's going to they're going to make it to where it's 100%. So by 2034, the way I understand the rule is that all of Edgewood has to be done that way by then.

Okay. I love these unfunded mandates. It's It's a lot of fun. Yeah. It's not uh you know I I've thought about I don't know if we like do we all just go to the state house and pick it and Yeah. I mean, I I I don't know exactly what to do. I thought about throwing tomatoes. Um, which Have we talked to any of our representatives

such as any of the state representatives? I have not. And I imagine there's got to be some people out there that have already raised Kane about it. I mean, but has anybody from actual Edgewood said anything? I did not believe so cuz that I just I just found this out last week in talking with the engineer. Yeah. That they've added another 20% so it's 40%. Well, I'm more concerned about the fact that because we are less than a thousand they won't give us a dime. I mean and that's exactly what the engineer said and and yeah, that does not absolutely sound fair. I mean it doesn't it doesn't pass the smell test. No, it doesn't.

I agree with you, Art. I think we need to reach out to someone other than just the engineer. Not that we don't what they're saying. Well, like I said, I have a another call on Wednesday at 10. So, um this is another entity that supposedly is dealing with um state revolving fund SRF. And then the other one is and I it's escaping me. I can't remember. Yeah. But but I mean there aren't too many bigger players in Westland Associates. There are not. And the engineer that we're using that is on this, his name is Kurt Wesler, and I find him to be I I find him to be top-notch. I'm I'm not complaining about his effort. Um,

no. My my my point my point being if if if if if Wesler can't get them to move the needle and they are a very very reputable engineering firm that works all the time with the state, you know what? Somebody else, what makes them think they're going to move the needle? They work in the same building. Okay. And I I w I wish I had their name for you. I just know it's But I you know, as soon as I know, I mean, I'll absolutely let you all know. No, we trust you.

Well, I do appreciate that, but um definitely trying to get that done. Um along with needing money um the our hydro flushing was complete and I noted that there are 10 hydrants that need to be they work they don't work well but they work and I would like to replace them. The problem is the cost of that is going to be $180,000 that we don't have. So when you say they work but they don't work well. Yes. I'm thinking very hard to turn. I'm thinking now I'm thinking now fire.

Yeah. Um I'm also we have some that we cannot shut fully off all the way. So they just continually leak. The barrel is full. It does not shut off the bottom. So we're going to have freezing weather coming. Um they can freeze and bust. They haven't they didn't last year but that doesn't mean it won't this year. So, I've identified 10 that I find to be the worst ones. Um, also asked the Wesler, I asked them, I said, "Is there a hydrant replacing fund?" And he said he's never heard of such. So, that is going to be on us as well. Now, we did get a quote from a contractor to replace them and that was at about $16,000 and that a hydrant and that was with us supplying the hydrant.

Okay. Um, tomorrow I have another hydrant company coming in to give me a pitch on whether I like their hydrant or not. So, they're going to go through their whole hydrant. I've been to two of them already and the cheapest fire hydrant I found is a Mueller hydrant and I quoted three three different industries. uh Ferguson Waterworks, Corin Maine, and utility pipe supply. And corn main was the cheapest at about 3,300 bucks each. We need to seriously look at addressing those because we don't want to get into a situation where we get a fire emergency and somebody's house burns down because we got bad hydrants.

I am in total agreement with you and I would love to just say, "Heck yeah. Hey, come and get them done. this is that's why I'm bringing it to you and I don't know what the the next step to do that is. Um, but I know well would the next step be for you to identify the the top priority and bring us a dollar amount? I can do that. I've actually started doing that. I took quotes from all three and that's where I got the the $17,000 so far. Dale, do you know what hydrants he's referring to?

I have not told him. I've not told him there is only there is only one in south and that the one in south is at uh redwood and Ivy. It is a two lug hydrant and it does not shut off fully. That is one I am worried about that is going to uh freeze and bust and once they do that they are inoperable. Um one that truly comes to mind is the dead end of Washington. Um, all nine others are going to be in uh North Edgewood. Those are the oldest hydrants. 1951.

Now, we'll have several of them that are 1951, 1952, 1953, 54, 55, 57. I didn't find a 56. So, there are a bunch of those. Um, I have five two lug hydrants and five three lug hydrants are the ones with the pumper on the front. Five two lug hydrants are Mueller hydrants that are too old to be repaired. And then the other five are M&H hydrants, which you don't really repair those either. You just take those out and replace those. Is that water different than our drinking water on the fire hydrants?

No. So you have you'll have to shut the water off an edgewood. Well, this is the No. Okay. Yes. Depends.

Okay. So the five the 10 hydrants that I've identified, they have no hydrant valve on them. So there's no way to isolate that. If those hydrants, which there are 72 hydrants, we count 75 because we talk about the three that are for the school. Most of them have no valve in front of them to shut them off. If they're hit by a by a car, then you are looking for line valves which are 50 plus year 50 1951 1952. whether those line valves work or not. The estimate that I have to fix the fire hydrants include what is called a line stop. That means no interruption in service to anybody. I haven't identified any of the line services out there or the the mainline valves to shut any of those off because I'm not positive that they're going to work. And the section that it was shut off, I could shut off 30 to 40 homes to shut off one fire hydrant. And we can only change one fire hydrant at a time. Um, the one on the end of Washington, the one at Washington and uh, Winding Way, the one at Garden and Winding Way, I think the one at the one in front of Jennifer Hunt's house on Persing in the middle of Persian. That one needs to be replaced. The

the one that I think at Windying Way in Persian, that's a That's an M&H. That's a pumper. I think I've identified that one that needs to be replaced. The worst one is the one on the bottom of at the the dead end of Washington is it is extremely hard to open. It is a two lugger. It's extremely hard to open. But there is another hydrant down at Winding Way. So there's another hydrant that is accessible for a potential fire down there. fun. You can get on it and you can open it and they they better at bait their wedies to open that hydrant. It's It's tough. That would be the absolute first one that I would change. And at the price that they're doing, I I'm probably going to go ahead and do that. I believe I have the money to do that one. Um I still am looking at like all three of those manufacturers that I called or distributors. I put all the all the stuff that we would use like the uh the actual hydron itself, the ring kits, nuts and bolts, the valve, and all the stuff that we would use that. It's cheaper for us to buy it than have a contractor do it because then they're going to hit us with a 50% up charge of whatever they bought it for. So, I've done that. So, and to and right now the cheapest to buy everything to do all 10 hydrants was $47,000. We can't afford that. And then let alone pay somebody at least $6,000 to put it in out of something that Carl and I, we are able physically able to do, but we cannot dig those out. We do not have a spoils pile. We do not have a place that we can go and dump the the trash. You know, we just two people is just we don't have a crane to hold the hold the hydrant up to get it in.

We're just not We're just too small. We can't We can't do those. So, we're gonna have to I have to contract that out. Yeah. D, if I could make a suggestion, I'd really replace the hydrant at Washington and Winding because that hydrant will access a lot more houses than the one at the end of Washington. I got enough hose to run from Winding all the way to that dead end. But that that you know that also serves other homes that I would lay out there you know good point that'd be the personal I would do.

So after this talking point of the hydrants I'm kind of grinding them out but I think I'm done unless anybody's got a question. Well, what what I would ask what I would ask of you um Mr. Ferguson is to at least let Dale let Dale know the 10 hydrances that you guys have identified. That way you guys your team has no surprises when they pull up on a you know on a fire or something of that nature. There is the um well I haven't got that blank sheet from you yet but I there are sheets that I have to fill out for insurance purposes that he gets a copy of and they will identify everything on those. Now what I can do is I can highlight at the top the 10 that you're talking about.

But also remember those were just the worst 10. That doesn't mean not another 20 out there that they all work. They just they're hardwork. Yeah. But we also don't want to get to a point where um

now also keep please keep this in mind when uh Carl and I showed up to do all those hydrants. We did grease the lugs. We added oil to the barrel like you're supposed to. We worked the bow up and down, the hydrant up and down. You know, we flushed it. We worked it. We tried to do whatever we could to to make that hydrant work as smooth as possible. So I I I guess I don't know how much our insurance is impacted um by hydrants and if there's a potential that our insurance will be impacted because of this we need to seriously look at

well fire protection is a is a major thing. There is no doubt and I will not disagree with that. So, I guess what I would love to see, um, not not necessarily that we will act, but at least we should be able to see what the cost would be. I I'm definitely working on that once I get a final count of that. I've got a pretty good idea what it is, what what I told you, but it's not cheap there either. But like I said, those are 10 hydrants that I have identified, but they still work. Any questions? Don, after you uh you mentioned speaking with this other entity about the leadline service.

Yeah. Can you get back to us after that and then Yeah, we can reach out to someone from the state. Yeah. You you would uh as a council, you guys want an email or a text message or email? Okay. I'm pretty positive I have them all. So, if I don't, I'll get them and then I'll I'll see let me know what they Now, I don't know if he's in my meeting with him. I don't know if he's going to say, "Oh, yeah, you can." Because he's going to have to take our information and then take it back and he's going to have to talk to the same people that Kurt talked to from Wesler. So,

but he supposedly works in the same building. So, hopefully he's got a little more clout. So, I'm hoping Either that or we're gonna have to adopt some families. Got an idea for that. Yeah. Any questions for the residents or anything? Well, I'm going to get out of here. I got another engagement to go to. So, okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. close. Yeah, I can I can I can go for it.

Okay. Um we'll move on to member reports. Mr. Reid, um I've got the uh police report from Captain Aman. D. Um,

Don said during September, they had one 911 hangup, uh, four alarms, four two animal complaints, um, they assisted EMS and fire department eight times, assisted other departments 30 times, assisted motorists twice, uh, DCS assist once, uh, attempt dispatch attempt to locate uh two times dome one domestic dispute one fight one f uh two follow-ups of fraud uh and missing person five motor checks uh 10 property checks uh one found property uh incident six um incidents of suspicious activity two thefts uh 46 traffic stops, a uh three trouble with calls, uh one warrant service, one welfare check, and 92 calls for service. And for citations, they had one for criminal recklessness, one for disregarding uh stop sign, one for disregarding a stop light, one for improper brake equipment, uh one no valid driver's license, one resisting law enforcement, two for speeding, and 16 written warnings. That's it. I think the question um either you or Shane might be able to answer this. Um 911 hangup. Do do patrolman at that point make a courtesy call or what what happens with that?

Typically if there's a hangup then the officer follows goes to the residence and follows up on

you have no report. Okay. Um, I did want to mention um Carl Fox also works with Don and he was the one that uh went out and took the pictures of all the bridges um in North Edgewood. They're all the rock bridges that go over the drains. Um so he was quite active in getting helping get the u for the monies. The only thing that I would like to just say is kudos to the fire department for the fish fry. Um, it was a huge success from everything that I saw. So, good job. Yeah,

Mr. Baron. I do not have a report. No report. Okay. Mr. Picket always has a report. He always has a report.

I'll make it I'll make it brief. Um, in regards to parks department, the parks themselves, I am still re uh doing some research and getting some information. I have talked to some people. Nothing concrete yet, but uh although we're not working on the uh 5-year plan presently, it is coming soon and I'm getting some information that uh I'll be able to present once we get started on something like that. And then in regards to our website, uh if you go to our website, um you'll see that the change I've got a news banner up at the top. So the change to the council meeting this week where it was the second week instead of the third week, that was posted up there. The information for the burn ban is posted up there. And there's also information based on a fundraiser for the pool that's posted up there. And I'll continue to to put stuff on there like Don was talking about with the uh the water report from the um tower, the inspection report, that'll be on there. So, and if there's any time, I think there's a place I I'm I'll put something where you can email me. So, if there's something that's not on there that you'd like information for, just go ahead and shoot me an email and I'll uh see what we can throw on there. At least I can give you a reason why it's not there yet. Maybe it's cuz I was taking a nap or something. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, Mr. Service.

Yeah, I wanted to get up here and thank Don and Carl for their work on the bridge report and pictures. Carl and I went around and actually looked at every one of them, too. And uh I'll work on that and get get something worked up to see what I think it's going to cost to do a couple of the worst ones maybe see where we can go from there. And then we've got the drainage problem down in ivy that we're going to look at too. And I think we're going to try to look at something over Catherine's place over there too. See what we can get fixed up with that. The office. Yeah. Yeah. And that's about all I've got right now. Short and sweet. Okay.

All right. Thank you, Miss Tanner. Nothing. The only thing, if you didn't get a newsletter, you don't get a water bill in the mail, you could stop by the office or you can pick a newsletter up here. It's not free. Just kidding. Well, you can put a donation. That's all I have. Okay. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Mr. Haggerman, do you did you have anything?

Uh, yeah, briefly. Uh, I know Mr. Austin uh left me a note and first of all, thank you for letting me fill in for Mr. Austin um associate at his firm. Um, Mr. Austin uh mentioned that there was a proposed ordinance that was circulated regarding the uh therapy comfort companion. That's that's been pulled. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for the information. I will forward that on to Mr. Austin if he doesn't know. So, and he doesn't. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for being here.

Okay. Is there any old business? None. All right. Any new business? No. Okay. Hey, Patty. Uh, somebody I think it was two girls showed up at our door the other night maybe for running. So just let this everybody know when you don't know who they were or nothing. Showed up your door for what? Money. Did you call the police? Did you call the police? No, I should have. I didn't even think of

Yeah. I mean, it might have been legit. Not at 9:00 at night. I know that's what Okay. Next, if that ever happens again, I'll be I should That's okay. Want to compliment Spencer and Nelly. Uh we thought there was a natural gas leak. The guy was spraying his house in back snow just like natural gas. They were right there. And then we told they told him what it was. Even Spencer thought it was natural gas. But Oh.

Okay. Any other new business? Okay. Are there any comments from the audience? Good evening, Brian McCord. Um, at the last town board meeting, I was called out of order. I would like to know at this time why I was presenting a case. I was not loud. I was not rude. I was asking questions and it seemed like certain members of the board did not like the questions I was asking. So why I'd like to level playing field here and just like to find out why I was called out of work.

Um I thank you for your comments.

Good for you. Okay. So I guess we don't have any rules. Uh Robert, rules of order. Okay. Let me just say if you had approached questions instead of accusations, I think it probably would have been taken a lot better. And this is not a forum for what you were discussing. And I've told you that if you have questions about the facility and how it's being run, make an appointment and or call me. Thank you. Okay. As far as the LLC is concerned, uh who is on the LLC? And that is a board meeting question. And I know you're timing me. I am. I am.

So what kind of LLC is this? What kind of LLC? There's multiple kinds of LLC's. There's single, multi, L3C. COP. It's a CC Corp. CC Corp. Mhm. Okay. And who is listed as the um uh registered agent? As the agent as the one who uh set it up. Is that what Whoever is on the LLC. I am. And who else? May I ask? Um, Mr. Faren is

So, Mr. Faren and Mrs. Fren. Okay. Um, so with you two being on the board, any type of questions about the operation of the edge? How can that be separated from the board to the edge? How can that be separated? This is uh an LLC is separate from the town. That's how but you

you have to have representation from the town because the town is principal in a C court. Okay. So in the newsletter that came out um topics must be relevant to the operation of the town. Mhm. Is not the property and the edge relevant to the town. Not in a government business meeting. It's only a section to bring this to my office or my phone or in person, however you'd like to do that. And I did tell you that last meeting, right? I'm just trying to level the playing field to know what the rules are.

That's the rule. Okay. Okay. So um so basically um okay um is there articles of organization for the LLC? They have to Yes. They have to be filed with the state. Mhm. Okay. And what is the LLC's name? What is it filed under? Town of Edgewood LLC. Town of Edgewood. And if I had thought about it, I probably would have named it something totally different. Okay. So, how can that be separated then? If the LLC town of Edgewood

I'm just asking for clarification, Miss Fren. That's all I'm asking for. Yes, sir. I get it. Town of Edgewood LLC is what it's named. It's because we are the tool that is keeping the place open doors and keeping it functioning. And it is a a tool for the town. And that's why it's named that. I I'm at loss to find out how this is separated. Then if the LLC says the town of Edgewood, then how is that? I I'm I'm I could have named it um Brian Stop, but I didn't. I know. I know, but you didn't. It is the Town of Edgewood LLC. If you don't like the name, you should change the name.

No, I'm I'm just asking for clarification. try and the LLC is is that organization. The town of Edgewood is a corporation. So there's distinction. We're not The Town of Edgewood. My department is not an LLC, right? That's where the two are distinct. And I agree the name should have been something different because it gets confusing. A lot of people get that is confusing. I mean intermingling funds. No, no, no. You're loaning money to the golf course. No, it's paid back. It's being paid. I know, but you're making a loan from the city to the golf course. The town. Mhm.

Right. So, you can't separate the two if you're going to allow the town to pay for golf course. But you're saying that separate they're not. Okay. Legal legal advice here. Yes. Can I interject something? Since Mr. Austin's not here and he's got a lot more experience with this. Maybe we should table this till the November meeting and try and have an answer for Mr. McCord. That'd be fine. I just I'd just like to have Is that you? You're not going to get very good answers tonight without our legal being here. That's fine. That's fine. I think that's putting Brock in a tough position. Well, I was just going to say separating one from the other, but yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

Is that all right? That's fine. I think that's fine. And and Mr. McCord, what I what I would encourage you to do so that you can get proper answers, I would encourage you to to put your request in writing so that it can get to him so that he's prepared to to answer those whatever. And where would I drop this off at? If it's an office or drop it drop it off and tell that way that way he knows exactly what you're wanting to know and he can do the research. Okay. Okay. Otherwise, we're just going to continue to just keep spinning wheels.

I I I understand. And that's that's what's frustrating me, and I'm sure it's frustrating to you for me to come up here every every month and ask, you know, questions that, you know, I I feel that should have been um should be answered. Okay. Um now, I did have a question. Why is the event center not listed separately? It is pulled out now from the last um from the last uh pub and dining event and event center. Um it is pulled out so somebody can look at that and see if they were okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Is there anyone else? Yes. Brian's making things difficult. That's fine. That's fine. All he wants to do is cause problems for Patty. Patty's a good lady. I'm not saying she's not anybody. He's just asking question. That's fine. I have my opinion. You have yours. I have I want to know why she hasn't had to go to the podium. Well, because he has trouble getting up there. You're doing a great job. It's okay. It's okay. It's I appreciate

Frank. Thank you, uh, Ryan. Thank you. Um, thank you all. Okay, any other questions? If not, we need approval for the minutes in the register. Oh, I'm sorry. I just want to say on behalf of people I know that I have talked to with money being lent back and forth with the town of Edgewood, which we just covered. I just feel like I think a lot of residents feel like I don't think anybody wants to get up and say it, that Patty is the president of the town board. Patty is the general manager over at the restaurant. Patty is running the accounting of the restaurant and the numbers of the restaurant and along with everything else that's being ran and I think a lot of people feel like Patty should step down as one or the other for the LLC, the restaurant, the general manager, the accounting and the town board.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. When you say the monies that has been lent, what monies are you talking for the golf pass? Okay. Well, the Okay. All right. So, the rationale behind the lending of the town lending money for the golf paths was pure and simple liability issue. We if if we did not repair those golf paths. Okay. Well, we're still intermingling the funds. Whatever the reason is for the intermingling. Well, but

and I feel like the golf the golf locks belong to the town and we are paying for half the LLC is paying for half of it. We don't own those. I feel like people come up here and make comments and we ask questions and I feel like like we get just a couple questions in at a time and then everything is kicked down the road to the last meeting. So, it's like a year just to get an answer for something because nothing's ever really addressed.

I just I just want to make sure that folks understand that the the only reason why we lent money um to the to the golf course was for the simple fact is we needed to get those golf paths repaired and they did not have the funds to be able to complete the project. Um, and I say that because I was the one that made the re made the motion for us to to do that because we had there was that's a huge liability waiting to happen and we just needed to get it fixed. Right. I understand. But we still have the Hey, Art and

the inter the funds going between here and there and I understand they're getting paid back. I I just want to add one thing that that would be looked upon, those golf cart pass would be looked at as a capital improvement to a property that the town owns even though it's being financed by the LLC that doesn't own the property. So, is that where we're using that money, the town's money to actually improve the property and make it worth more money? That's what I would look at it as. So, when Arc brought that up, I agreed with him on that based on that. Just so you know, that was voted on for that. He brought it up and he said he was trying to work on it. So that art when what he just told you that he was the one that came up with that idea.

Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Any more questions?

Okay. Then we need approval of minutes from September. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. and the register of claims for October. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Is there a motion for adjournment? No. Did you have something? [Music]

Well, that's going to be done in November. All right. Okay. Arthur just reme reminded me that we we are planning in November to relook at asking for RFPs, which is a response to um um an offer for leasing part of um the golf course, not the golf course itself, but um the edge

the not the edge, not the it's not the edge anymore. It's edgewood. um the restaurant and um dining area and the pub. So that will come up in November. So if you're curious about that, that's what we're looking at. That was our end goal from day one to get someone to lease it and not have to have us working like crazy people trying to keep it afloat. So um I hope that helps solve or soothe some of your, you know, thoughts about what we're doing. We're our end goal is to have at least we don't want to we don't want to run it forever. And can I add to that? Sure.

Eventually what the way we see it is the the event center and the restaurant will be leased by somebody hopefully. The the pool will be a town pool which will that'll uh remove that any mystery of that. and the golf course will be a town golf course, but the the restaurant and and um the the event center will operate separately. Does that does that make sense? No, it does make I mean we were on the original committee, so I I understand the the whole thing of that. So that's what we're working for, right? Because I talked about that in the very beginning

and and we haven't changed that thought, Kim. Not once. That is the primary target. I have one thing to add to this and I know the November we got to see your pretty face. Pretty face. Okay, Don McCord. One thing that was has been brought up in the past is to have a company come in and lease it part of it, but then there's conflicts with the events being held. They It was too big. it was they they didn't want to take on that task, right? I think we need to look at keep this in mind.

Would it be beneficial to eliminate the event center part of it and just open it up for the restaurant, still have the the location to have weddings, per se, but outside catering? That was the big glitch when it was when we had people come in and make bids is that they did not want to take the event part of it on. Well, I think that we're going to be more specific when we put the lease out there. Okay. U because the restaurant being right there, it and actually the event center does make money. Oh, I'm not saying it's not. It does. Yeah. And that's the glitch with not being able to get an outside restaurant firm or company to come in and take over the restaurant and

publish. And we also had the the first time around, we had a very short window that we were operating out of. This time we're going to expand that window and hopefully by expanding it we'll get more serious interest and people that want to handle something like that. Thank you. Daddy, if you need help, ask volunteers. Ask people to help you. Okay, I make a motion. Second move and second. All in favor? I