Town Council - Regular Meeting

that touch. It gets me. Welcome to our July meeting for the Edgewood Town Council. I'm excited to see all these people here. That's great. Um, I'd like to call the meeting to order and ask you to stand for the pledge.

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Could pause for just a moment before you're seated and just um think about all the positive things that you have going on in your life. Uh all the positive things that we have going on in our community and um keep good thoughts for all of those who um have had such struggles in Texas and southern states with all the flooding. Thank you, Miss Tanner. May we have roll call, please? When I call your name, please state here or present. Mr. Reed, present. Mr. Briggs, here. Miss Farren here. Mr. Lee

here. Mr. Farren here. Mr. Picket present. Let the record show all council members present. Thank you. Chief Vanderber. Chief Vanderberg, are you going to give a report? Okay. And I will before you start, anyone who speaks at this meeting, whether it's a report or just a comment or question will come to the podium because we are recording. It's live on um YouTube right now. No, it's YouTube. I think that

speaker not working. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Is that better? Okay. Did you hear what they said, Mike? Yeah, I can now. It wasn't working. You might repeat it. Okay. So, everyone who makes a comment or has a question at this meeting will come to the podium. We are being recorded and we are live stream right now on YouTube. This is a a new state law that just went into effect this month. So, okay, now you can. All right. Thank you.

Well, good evening. My name is Jordan White. I'm the captain of the Edgewood Fire Department here. Um coming to to bring your your June report. So, uh, this month we had 53 EMS calls, uh, with 15 transports and we had 13 fire calls, including one standby. And, uh, we also had a successful golf outing. Thank you to everyone who was able to come out to that. That was that was a fantastic turnout. Um, the amount of funds that we raised have not yet been determined because we're still receiving the sponsorship funds coming in. Um, but hopefully we'll we'll have that totaled here soon. Uh last Friday we had uh our blood drive and we actually met our goal. We had 13 um 13 folks that that came to donate blood. So um again, thank you to everyone who came to that as well. And that was that was a very very successful event and it's awesome to hear that we're going to be able to help save some lives. And then um the next fire department event that we have going on is our NBA boot drive. Uh that will be uh Labor Day weekend. So, be looking for our our firemen out here looking to fill the boot and to help support the NDA.

And that's that's what I have. Okay. Anybody have any questions up here? Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Okay. Who is doing our police report this evening? It is Randy. Wendy. Okay, our activity for the month of June, we had 97 calls for service and we've also issued 25 arrests or citations on traffic stops, not traffic stops, that kind of thing. We do have one ordinance that's moving through um at Wood Court right now. So, we've had our first. We're moving that through that process. Um we've got um National Night Out coming up on Tuesday, August 5th. And we've already got we've got five bicycles down that hallway that have been donated already. So, we're going it's what do you say? A drawing. I guess it's not really a raffle because we're not taking money, but you'll have to fill out a ticket so we can draw numbers out of a bowl or whatever. So, we're going to give those away. I think we may have a couple more bikes coming in. I'm not sure. Um, but we just today got notification that someone's donating $500 to National Night Out and we're going to buy some gift cards to give away on top of that. So, we've got um I have confirmed ADT will be here. AT&T is coming. Um,

St. Vincent Hospital is going to have somebody come over. So, we're we've got a DJ. We'll have an ice cream um truck here and the Edge is supplying hot dogs and hamburgers and drinks and chips and that kind of thing for sale. So um it's free, no admission. Well, the food you have to pay for the food outside of that. The ice cream man wants his money. Uh bounce houses we are I'm working on the Well, actually I just paid those uh today. So we've donated. We'll have bounce houses for the kids to come out with. We got three of them coming this this year. So, um, it's going to be a party. Come out. Hope to see everybody there. What's the date again? August 5th from 5 to 8:00 p.m.

It's a Tuesday night. Why they chose a Tuesday night in August? I don't know. It's It's a national thing, which is why it's National Night Out. So, um, there are some states that have theirs in October because Texas a little cooler in October. August might be cool in October. So, but most most of the country will have the parties going on across the Indiana and across the United States on August 5th from whatever time they decide. So, it's just a time to get out for the community to meet us, us to talk to the community and get to know each other. So, hope everybody can come out. Thank you,

Mr. Ferguson. I'm sure you have a report.

You got a few times. Yeah. Uh good evening everybody. I packed house on try to be de um first thing to touch on some of the flooding what Patty brought up was is you know here recently in Edgewood we received 40 or I'm sorry 4 ines of rain in 20 hours. Um a lot of people were complaining about storm sewers are backed up. They're handling what they can. I I can't do anything about it. We've been out. We've cleaned the tops of the drains off. where I mean if if you can convince mother nature to stop, good luck. I I mean, the drains are flowing. I I mean, we'll look into it, but I'm pretty sure they're all open. I've had a few complaints and the the water is getting high, but it is receding and the drains are taking in. Um along with those storms, uh here this year, it seems like Edgewood has lost a lot of power, a lot. Um, I would remind all residents that are here and listening that we have a bunch of mature trees all through Edgewood. And I would encourage people to have those trimmed. Uh, call your power companies, whatever. Have them keep complaining, calling them, have them get the lines cleared down through there. Um, we even have some that are actually intruding over into the roadway some places. So, those are the property owner's responsibility to trim those. Um, if a tree does happen to fall during a storm across the road, we will come move it out of the road, but that's it. We're going to push it over into your yard and that's about all we're going to do with it. Um, the next thing is I got a report from an engineer about our lead service line.

The number came back for our government funding and I'm sad to say it is zero.

So they told us we were too small to receive any kind of funding. Um due to have a long conversation with our engineer to see where we go next. Um we're not I was hoping to have that particular thing done by now. We don't have to have that done until October of 27. So, we've got plenty of time to try to find more, but I was hoping to get one of those things off the books and get Edgewood clear of those things. So, I'll still look for government assistance on that. Seems how it is the federal and the state that is pushing us to do this. I know for a fact that they were given $64 million to do out to help out with this stuff. and I find it strange that we're too small to receive any money. So, I will uh definitely try to find find us some more and then I will keep you guys advised on where I am with all of that.

This is federal or state uh it came down from federal but the state at the state level the Indiana uh department of environmental management from Indiana is handling it. So, the IDM for each state is handling it down from the government. Could we not solicit some help from our state reps?

Well, we may be able to do that. Um, I don't know if it's going to help. Um, I know one company contacted me and they were running out of Chicago, so I'm not real sure why they're running out of Chicago for the state of Indiana, but they told me because I was already using an engineering firm. They had one that they wanted to use. And then when I told them I didn't think we had any lead line here, they told me they denied us. Said we was already using somebody and and we were going after funding there. And I told them I said, "Well, we need to investigate. Just because we've never found one doesn't mean we won't find a lead line. And it doesn't mean that I'm guaranteed that I'm going to get any funding." And here we are. We didn't get any. So I if I were to submit one back through that particular uh agency, I'll have to go through the firm up in Chicago and I'm not real fond of that. I don't know why I can't find anybody in Indianapolis, you know, that's where IDM stationed out of for state of Indiana, but but anyway,

refresh my memory. Who did we use? We used Wesler.

Okay. I thought it was Wesley. Yeah, Wesley does a lot for us, especially on our storm water stuff and things like that. They're they're actually quite a very uh reputable and big engineering company. So, they they sponsor quite a bit stuff for they actually were one of the sponsors for our local golf tournament that we held or the fundraiser here, too. So, but uh I think they do a good job and I'll circle back with the engineer there and uh figure out another plan to try to get us. I don't want to have to pay for that if uh we don't need it. We definitely can revert those funds to something else that's needed. Uh my last thing is I'll bring up the uh floor we brought up last last month. Um, I know you asked me to uh plug it back in, but I did not. We haven't been feeding for a month since last since the last. And if anybody would like to see those figures on what our natural fluoride is, we do average a point4. I have all I kept taking the samples on a daily basis to make sure that I was correct in what I was talking about. I have all those samples. the state already has asked me if I've unplugged it. Why am I still taking samples? And I told him, I said, "Well, for the town's sake to show that what our natural fluoride in the water is, we have that." And he says, "Well, as soon as you prove that and your council says that they don't want to put it back in, then disconnect it from the system." So he's asking me, you know, once you guys make that decision, I need to disconnect it from the system so that way we're no longer feeding it. Now, as of right now, we if you choose that you want to keep it, I can just go plug it in and we can we can feed it. So I haven't done any of that. All we've done is just shut it off.

And you did talk to us about this last month, so we need to make a decision. Um, is there a motion that we I I would before we vote on this, I I really would love to hear what residents feel because they're the ones going to be impacted. The discussion is to stop putting fluoride in our drinking water. And I really would like to hear your opinion on whether or not what what you feel about it. They don't know that we already have natural. I understand, but that's irrelevant. We're we're being asked to officially stop. Okay. And we're going to be making that decision on behalf of the people sitting in here. And I really like to hear their opinion. Would you like me to elaborate a little bit?

Yes, please. Okay. So, for x amount of years when I was over in Anderson, I tried to do away with adding fluoride to the to the water system. Natural groundwater has natural fluoride in it. Um many years ago back in the early 80s late 70s they got an idea that they should have extra fluoride in it for teeth and all the benefit of that.

Um the amount that we're putting in to add to it is well above what the natural what you need on a daily basis. Um, basically if you brush your teeth with toothpaste, you're getting your daily average. Um, you basically got to look and find a toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride in it. Um, I find that this is a it's an additive going into the water that's just not needed. The body is going to get its supplement of fluoride on a daily basis. processed food. All basically all processed food has fluoride in it. Um, all the information I'm giving you, you can Google every bit of this and you can find out.

Yes. Yeah. Don, do you know what the suggested levels of fluoride would be for safe uh safe fluoride? I know when it gets to a certain percentage then it's a little high and they recommend I think is it 2 to.5? They that's your your daily your daily supplement that you that the body needs is 02 to 05 our natural large per that's per person

just just the daily body. Now what we have in the system now we we are at 0.4 and when we were feeding fluoride it was up to 7. Okay,

we average at.7. Um the the maximum level that you can put into the water is 2.0 which is pretty high. Um there's no there's absolutely no reason there's no benefit to actually have it that high. Um your like I said your daily dose is the 02 05. Um they're saying a p-sized dab of toothpaste has the will will will be in excess of 03.

So the average when I did research on that the average toothpaste had somewhere between a,000 to500 parts per million.

Yeah. That's enough. And then when you break it down it's it's enough. Um, the only reason that any town has ever put fluoride into their water is is because they deemed it necessary. There's nothing from state health department. The state deems they even asked us why you putting it in. It's not necessary. It's just an additive that communities thought that they needed to add. Nobody tells us that we have to put this in the water. This is totally up to us whether we want to use it or not. And I I think we need to do away with it. I think it was $1,800 a year, which isn't a great amount of money, but I mean, we saw take a sample every month. You got to send it off or I'm sorry, once a week, send it off to the state. They read it, send it back, take the samples every day, you know. So

and and what were the benefits of adding it? Basically the ensure you got for your teeth my recollection going back to like the 50s or 60s it was supposed to reduce uh cavities. Yeah. But I think as I mentioned to you, I spoke recently to to a recently retired dental hygienist and she said that they believe it actually can erode the enamel on your teeth. Yeah. So I I don't know that she's an expert, but she practiced for 30 years.

Now, one of the things like like if and anybody can Google this. I I do your research, you know, I have no issues with this, but you know, there's a lot of our food that is just grown in straight water. And if that's fluoridated water, that's in the food. Um, one of the things that they the process of deboning chicken is a major cause of adding fluoride into the into your food. For some reason, the process of deboning chicken is a that has a lot of fluoride in it. I guess they use fluorideed water disinfect them. I didn't look up the research. I just saw that that's what it was, you know. So any I mean we have a lot of uh what the fruits and vegetables are grown just in water anymore. So I mean what the little baby carrots they turn white that's actually chlorine coming out of the So if you buy the little baby carrots when they turn white that's actually chlorine coming out of them. So question

does anybody have a question for me or comment? So I got a question. So you're doing this to do us a favor? Like I'm doing $1,800. Is that the reason you're doing? No. $1,800 is not a reason for me to do this. That's not You just said it's we will save $1,800. The the reason I'm not doing it is because it's just not necessary. Okay. Well, you gota be everything you do is for a reason. So, we're saving money. Well, we're saving a little bit of money, time, effort of doing the other people around here at Pendleton Anderson. They used

shut theirs off. Alexandria is going to shut theirs off. Anderson will not because they uh they just refuse to talk about it. I tried to go against I tried to ask my director over there, Neil McKe, if I could put a a presentation together and he told me no because they didn't want to hear it. They don't they're they're not interested in doing it. And that would save them $30,000 a year not to put in the water and they pull out of the ground. They have ground water. So they have natural ground natural fluoride in the ground water as well.

So it's not it's not doing the city of Anderson any good either. I just find it's an extra chemical that we don't need. Share with them some of the side effects. No, too much fluoride. Oh, you know what? I didn't read those. I never I never read that. I'm sorry. I I never read that. I don't know. I read that a long time ago and I don't know. I've done a little research. Absolutely. What? Maybe we should talk about that next time. Well, what were the Well, there's just discoloration your teeth too much is actually bad for your teeth. It's bad for younger children, skeletal. I mean, there's just a list.

I know here here in Edgewood, we use the powder and we have to And if anybody would like to come see the bag, I mean, there's a skull and crossbones right on the front of the bag. So, I got to deal with that, which that's fine. I'm trained to deal with it. But like in Anderson, they use they use actual liquid. Well, you can take a cup of that and throw it out on the ground and it'll eat through concrete in about four or five minutes. I mean, it's it's bad stuff. I mean, it will eat concrete, but it's also once you put it in the water, it diluted down. So, what I'm hearing you say is there's really not a downside to not doing not putting that in there.

There's no upside to it. There's no downside to it. Um, so would it be safe to assume that when we decided to do this before any of us were in that we were doing it without the research, it was just a good idea that somebody came up with and now that we've done the research, we don't need it. I would bet so. Yes. But but we did it because that was the national thing to do. Sure. It was and and and so many many many many I just think I think research has proven that we don't need it anymore. Well, I can I can tell you if we had voted on this at the last council meeting, I would have voted no because I did no research. But since we talked about it, I did research and just changed my mind.

So, you want to had it? No, I would have voted. Oh, you would have voted to not do away with it. Okay. Well, I know state some states or two states have already abolished it. So, I know what Utah and Florida have. I believe both. I know Utah did away with it. It's a state statute. You can't do you cannot add I I mean at the level that we are putting it in, it's not harmful. It's just it's just not needed. Something else for me not to worry about. [Music]

Okay. So, we've had discussion. Uh, is there a motion that we approve not adding fluoride to our water? Okay. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed.

All right. Just discontin it. Yes. I will ask. And you won't have to test either. Tell me where the dentist is. On that I will be done unless anybody has any more questions for me. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Down to members reports. Mr. Reed, I don't have anything to add to Ry's report. I don't have

You don't have a report, sir? I have no report, but what I will say is um congratulations to the public safety folks for the successful golf outing. I'm not a golfer, but it was well organized. Everybody seemed to be having a really good time and I think for the first annual one, it was a success. So, congratulations to you guys pulling that off. Thank you for attending. Okay, Mr. I do not have a report. Mr. Picket, I know you do.

I know. I always have something to say, don't I? Uh, just in relationship to last meeting, I brought up that I'm trying to create a committee for our parks department to get some of our residents involved and get some ideas on what we can do to upgrade. Um, I'll talk about our new website that just got up and running in the last week a little bit later, but uh that will be posted on there along with an email address where anyone that's interested can email their pertinent information to me and then we'll we'll get together and have a meeting and develop a business plan or a future plan, I guess, for down the road on how we're going to upgrade some of our facilities, uh, some of the equipment that's on there and how we're going to reach into people's pockets and have them help us help you. So, that's what we'll get to here in a little bit. Uh, but just be on the lookout for that and it will be on the website and I'll probably try and put something in the clerk's office there too, Catherine, just so if anybody comes in there, they can get that information. So, thank you.

Okay, Mr. Austin.

Oh, a couple things. the uh several things under old business uh and that's uh we have the issue of updating similar ordinances and uh I had sent out an email today with some of the uh formal ordinance documents uh for the council's consideration and these are things we talked about earlier but I think this would be again let me get old business this would be something we'd want to consider at old business uh we Uh, I did look again at this issue of Maple and Orchard Drive and the question of the town's right away, which is more right away than we need. And having looked at this, again, this this is really something the statute contemplates. The homeowner would file a petition uh with the town council seeking to eliminate some of that right away. and we have a legal description of the rideway that we don't need. Uh I've done this before for other people privately and it would involve basically a petition and then there' be an ordinance passed uh which would downsize the rideway in that area which I think we do want to do if the homeowner requests that. So, uh, science that matter really communicating with the homeowner and, uh, then seeing if they want to do this. And I'm I'm happy to this, you know, maybe steer them in the right direction. They probably want to hire an attorney and and have the attorney prepare the documents, uh, to present to the county council to get that done. Uh, the other thing, uh, we did have our first ordinance violation case. Uh, so we're we're now filing those in Elwood City Court. and that was last Tuesday.

So, we had one uh violation for failure to maintain the individual's yard. Uh this was in South Edgewood. Uh the individual did attend court. Uh with the recommendation of uh of Chad and Randy continued that until September uh with the promise that the yard would be better maintained. Uh and we're going to continue to monitor that and if the sky does not come through and do a better job maintaining the art, we will go ahead at the next hearing asked the court to impose a a fine and cost. Um and and this is somebody young family, he works, his wife works, uh you know, young children and they're just kind of overwhelmed is was I think my feeling about the situation. So we'll continue to look at this. have asked the police department to continue to take photos uh so we have records about how the homeowner is doing and we'll go ahead and revisit that later this summer and see if we're making any progress. So that'll conclude my report. Thank you.

Thank you. Did Mr. Survey send a report? No, I don't think Steve did. Okay, good. Miss Tanner, can the owl hear me from here? Do you want me to go to the podium? Uhhuh.

I'll keep mine short. Like I said last month, we did put the new dropbox up. It's at the utility building between the utility building and the fire department. And people are finally figuring it out because we put it in social media, the newsletter, and we put a note on our current mailbox asking not to put it put it in our mailbox. And we had a ton of water bills over the weekend. So that is working. And and just the same thing, we had people calling and complaining about the water drainage. And so I did have Mr. Ferguson check on a couple properties and it it was draining. and it just took a while. So that's all I have.

Okay. Thank you. Okay. To old business. I think Mr. Austin, you said you we're going to talk about the ordinances. Yeah. Yeah. So, so we have uh we have several uh then that have been circulated and it looks like one we'd already adopted the change in ordinance uh this 71.21.

Yeah. And what that would do would be to say if we have a regulated vehicle, uh, and we previously said you could park in a sideyard, backyard, uh, but the vehicle had to be on pavement, concrete, or gravel. And, uh, what we had done was change that to say the vehicle would have to be on pavement or concrete. And I believe that's one that we had approved. Yes. So all I've done is put this more in an ordinance format uh for signature by the town council.

So I think that's that's a good change. Uh you know, gravel is just not a very good surface for any permanent parking purpose. Uh and that if my memory serves me correctly, that's for things going forward. Yeah.

Yes. Yes, that's correct. And then the other ordinance change uh and this is one that we had tabled and that was uh involving fire safety and burning restrictions and the main the main change on that. So the language you you see is what we talked about earlier and uh this would have restrictions about burning u and it's kind of a common sense thing. So the the big change was we did want to allow people to have fire pits u and that would be provided they were monitored uh provided uh there was a reliable water source in case that got out of hand nearby. Uh, and when the when you're done for the evening, you want to extinguish the fire. But so we added a clause about fire pits in our uh existing ordinance about burning restrictions. That's section 93.01. And we could read that in its entirety if you prefer then take action on that this evening. And then the third one uh was concerning driveways.

And that is an interesting subject. And basically this this would say that not retroactively but moving forward if you want a driveway it needs to be concrete or asphalt gravel driveways in the town. Uh and then any driveway, uh if one's going to add a driveway, expand a driveway, upgrade a driveway, uh would need to get a permit from the building commissioner before beginning that work. And if someone has a problem uh specifically, you know, and uh has an issue with the ordinance, I mean, it is possible always when you have standards like these to request a variance, and that would be something considered by our foruming field. So that is a change to uh I I kind of tried to incorporate that into existing ordinances. So that would be a change to section 153.023. That would be something the council could consider then business tonight.

Okay. So we need to dig in on these. Let's do the um the burning restriction ordinance first and I will read it. Um an ordinance amending open burning restriction for the town of Edgewood. Whereas section 93.01 of the code of ordinances of the town of Edgewood, Indiana regulates open burning within the town. It is reasonable and appropriate to modernize said section 93.01 to provide more detail about what is permitted and what is not permitted. and to specifically address the subject of fire pits in the town. Now, therefore, be it ordained by the town of Edgewood, Indiana, that section 93.01 of the code ordinances titled open burning restrictions shall be amended to provide the following. Chapter 30, Chapter 93, fire prevention 93.01. Open burning restrictions. The requirements for open burning are as follows. A only leaves and wood products shall be burned. No plastic materials or trash shall be burned. The container with an appropriate lid, such as a mesh wire lid, shall be used. B. Fires shall be attended to at all times with a reliable water source. C. If a fire creates air an air pollution problem, a nuisance for neighbors, or a fire hazard, it shall be extinguished immediately. D. No burning shall be conducted during unfavorable weather conditions such as high wind alerts or pollution alert days. This includes when a countywide burn ban is in effect. E. All burning shall occur between 9:00 a.m. and 700 p.m. The materials being burned have not been consumed by 700 p.m. Fire shall be extinguished and the burning material dispersed in order to prevent subsequent combustion. F. Recreational burning is allowed, but

the fire pit shall not exceed 4 feet in diameter. The fire ring or fire pit shall be constructed of concrete, brick, stone, or other non-combustible material. The fire shall never be left unattended. A reliable water source shall be available, and the fire shall be completely extinguished when done. And we hadn't have we we hadn't done a reading on this one. No. You got the ordination number. Okay. Um, sure. Today is 07 215. Okay.

I make a motion that we approve ordinance 072125. Ordinance amending open burning restrictions in first reading. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Is there um motion that we have a second reading? So move. Second. Okay. By title only. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed.

Okay. I'm not going to read the whole ordinance again. Uh it's an ordinance amending open burning restrictions for the town of Edgewood, including our u being able to use fire pits. Is there a motion that we um So second, you're not even want to get it on my mouth. Okay. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Okay. I make a motion that we suspend the rules and read ordinance 072125. Ordinance amending open burning restrictions by title only. Seconded. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed.

Okay. Ordinance number 072125, an ordinance amending open burning restrictions for the town of Edgewood. Is there a motion that we accept third reading? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Passed. I would just ask that you sign this copy. Okay. Moving on to the ordinance amending regulations. Whoops. What happened to Well, that's the drag one. Yeah, cuz the other one.

I got it. Okay. [Applause] Shall I read this completely? Also, Mr. Alson. Uh, yes.

Okay. Okay. This is ordinance number 072125A, an ordinance amending the regulations for the construction of driveways within the town of Edgewood. Whereas, it is reasonable and appropriate for the town of Edgewood, Indiana to better regulate the construction of driveways within the town to protect property values and to protect neighborhoods from the shoddy construction of driveways or the shoddy expansion of driveways. Now therefore, be it ordained by the town of Edgewood, Indiana, that the code of ordinances shall be amended to provide the following. Number one, the following definition of a driveway shall be added to section 153.001 of the Edgewood Code of Ordinances. Section 153.001. Definitions. Driveway. a private drive off and to an off- streetet destination such as a garage or parking lot which shall provide access for vehicles from a public way. Number two, section 153.023 of the code of ordinances of the town of Edgewood, Indiana titled lots shall be retitled so that it refers to lots and driveways and shall be expanded by adding an additional paragraph to said section 153.023. 023 as follows. All driveway installations, improvements, and upgrades shall be composed of asphalt, pavement, or concrete. The improvements or upgrades prior to the effective date of this amendment to section 153.023 are exempt from this requirement until such time as they are replaced or improved. All driveway installations, improvements, or upgrades shall be approved by the building commissioner prior to the work being started. Is there a motion that we accept ordinance 072125A?

So moved. Is there a second? Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed. Is there a motion that we have a second reading or um with the name only, title only? So move. Okay. One of you can second it. Second. Okay. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I oppose. Okay. Second reading. Ordinance 02 072125A. An ordinance amending the regulations for the construction of driveways within the town of Edgewood. Is there a motion that we accept second reading? So move. Second.

Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Is there a motion for a third reading? I make a motion that we suspend the rules and read ordinance 072125 alpha by title only. Is there a second? Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Ordinance number 072125A, an ordinance amending the regulation for the construction of driveways within the town of Edgewood. Is there a motion that we approve the third reading? So move. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Passed. Thank you.

There's a lot of I know. Okay. This one also needs sign. Coming your way. Okay. That's it. That's all. That's all there. Yes. Okay. [Applause] Okay. Is there any other old business?

Uh I think the only thing I've got is on the uh website. Those of you that have tried to look at our website over the last couple years realize that it's never upgraded, never updated. In fact, I don't even We just figured out how to get access not too long ago, didn't we? Well, we created a new website through indian.gov. Um, I've posted on my personal Facebook page access to it, but if you just go to indian.gov and look for town of Edgewood, it'll be there. Uh, it just went live this week. Uh, we do have updated information on there, pertinent information. We got some people's pictures. Our yours looks wonderful, by the way, on there. Uh Art and Patty's pictures are on there. We're going to update everybody's pictures. Uh that way residents can know who's representing them up here. There'll also be some pictures with Catherine's pictures on there. We'll have some other pictures. And not only that, but some pictures around town. Just today, I added some uh historical pictures to it. So, you can look back at some of the things that were here before, such as the uh the uh Edgewood drugstore. uh the town shops, some of the old pictures from there, some of the old pictures from the country club. Uh those I was contacted by Jay Horner who grew up in this area and he's got a website on Facebook with a lot of old pictures. He said, "Steal I mean take whatever you want, Rob." So I took some of them and I'll be taking some more and updating them. Um and then we we've got links to uh links to our YouTube page. So, if you're unable to come here, which we we really enjoy seeing everybody, but if you're unable to come here, you can actually go on and watch us live as this is going on. Uh you can go there. If you're unable to do that and see recorded versions of the previous board meetings, we'll have our minutes. We do have one whole month of

minutes updated on there, but we'll have all our minutes updated on there. and uh that flyer that everybody gets quarterly in their um utility, their water bill that they throw away without looking at it. Well, you can go there cuz they'll be on there, too. We've got one of them on there right now and there'll be some more that's coming on. So, if you miss something, you can go back and find it. Also, there's links to the reach alert, which is very important. We found out over the last few months. Uh it was nice. we got that notification about the the water up uh work on the water systems and the water turning brown maybe and so everybody was able to see that that was signed up for it. That's a good thing to sign up for. But I think just over time we're going to we're going to really have a lot more information for everybody and make it so that it's uh something that you'll go to and say, "Okay, all right. I feel comfortable with this. I'm confident in what's going on." And that's the whole idea is because we're all one big big happy family as far as I'm concerned. We all just need to make sure everybody's understanding what's going on. Uh that's it.

That's it. That That's pretty good for me. That's really good. I'm impressed. Okay. Okay. Is there any new business? Okay. I I know that we're going to get to the comments and the questions. So, I'm going to ask, are most of you here about the pool? Who's here about the pool? Anybody?

Okay. Okay. Um I guess that would be new business. Okay. sell. Um, as you heard, we couldn't open the pool this year because it's 76 years old and the drain pipe collapsed. And when that happened, it flooded the pump room which destroyed the new pump.

So, um, no opening the pool until we get it reconstructed. It It will be a major happening. And um I need I I we need to know if that's some a direction that the town wants to go. Do we want to do this? Do we want the pool? If we do, we have to stand behind it. And I've got some pictures and a Please don't laugh at my rendering. I I did as best I could. Um but I have renderings if you if you guys want to guess. You don't need more than two. pass them down that way. Um, if you would like to look at these, Eggy, will you? Yes.

Um, thank you. And I I speaking for the town have talked to the pool man that that takes care of the pool. And um he has um a construction company that works with him that does reconstruction of pools such as ours because I thought we were the lone ranger. I thought we were the lone ranger. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to um It's Yeah. Look at look at it from this way. That way you're looking

the way I've drawn it. And I'm not an architect. My brother is an architect, but I'm not. It didn't drop off. So look at it from the patio. Look like you're looking out from the patio where it says patio. Yeah, like that. And it makes a lot more sense. Okay. So you can see looking all the striped areas are dead. country. Did you all get a picture? See, where the patio is? See, I didn't do something right. Okay.

Okay. So, the the sides of the slanted lines are all deck area, which we have a lot more deck area now. uh remove the waiting pool because we we're going to eliminate the um diving in. That will be um a safety feature. Um number one, that does jack up the insurance rates, but um when you're reconstructing something like this, you really want to go for what's most used. And I know kids like to jump off the sides. They can still jump off the sides. We're going to have a five foot deep pool. will still be able to have swim team. Um, as you can see the lines in the pool, that's for the swim team. And, um, the waiting pool will be moved to where the deck the the deck area where the diving board was. Uh, it'll be, um, kind of encased so that um, moms can actually sit in the pool on a chair with their kids and they can have a nice little waiting pool. It It's a big safety feature. Okay. The other good thing about this is we're looking at the fact that a pool is not ADA compliant. And in this day and age, you really need to have that. Um, we don't have a way for people with any kind of handicap to get into our pool, let alone get out. Um, and I know as a short person, I I had trouble getting in and out of it.

Getting in easy. Getting in easy. No, getting in easy. Okay. So, um the other out where the little arrows are, it says zero entry on the south side. Everybody see that? Okay. I brought a picture of zero entry and it's like walking into the water from the beach area. It just gradually goes down and that and it'll have a railing so that um you can actually hang on and still walk into the pool. It'll go into the shallow end so that there's no um I mean I wouldn't want to put that on the deep end.

Not safe. Um well and it'll be um such that we we would be able if someone's in a wheelchair but wants to get into the water, we can wheel them in and wheel them back out. So um so there be no need for the hydraulic.

No, no hydraulic lift, none of that. Um, I think that was discussed and we were kind of nervous about getting one of those because we would have to anchor it into the cement and who knew what that would hold. So, this is by far the um the best option for an ADA compliant pool. Our pump pump house if you can see at the very south end is outside of the fence which will be we'll have a whole new deck and the fence will be all painted. It'll be all replaced. The pump house will be in a little building outside of the fence. So there will be no more under the pool pumps. Um and you have to think this I mean being 76 years old that's how they built them back in the day. And I do have a a a group of folks that work very closely with me and um they're all very supportive of doing whatever it takes to help us raise the money to get this project done. And Becky, I have you on my list.

And you guys are on it already. Um so I guess any feedback on what this looks like? How much it will cost? I'm sorry.

Yes, I do have an estimate on the cost. It um is more than I thought, but less than it could have been. Uh we had to you like that. Um we had actually two because the company that um did the rebuild, this thing's in my way. The rebuild out um at Anderson Country Club, they came out and looked at our pool to see what the possibility was. And he said we were looking at at least a million water not included. Water not included. That's a big deal.

Yeah. So um yeah. So the pump the pump company um piles pools out of pen piles pools out of Pendleton um say that I know that's really um is the one who has um helped facilitate getting the um estimate and the estimate is are you ready? 871,275.

Okay. So it's less than a million. piece tile around or is it going to be wrapped? Actually, it's going to be such that there won't be any loose tiles around it at all. The lining will be a finished stone-like lining that he said that it would not have to be painted or um patched any sort of way for at least 20 years. I don't know about you guys, but I won't be here in 20 years. You're going to be here. Kim, would you like to come up here? Not necessarily, though. Well, that's how that's how we have to do it.

I'm just I know, but nobody else over here. Nobody's really made any comments. Well, she was asking a minute ago about cost on here. So, okay. Okay. So, my question is, how much money is the golf course and all of that taking in over there in order to help facilitate and pay for the pool and all of that stuff for the for redoing the pool. Okay. Well, I'm going to say some really positive things. Okay.

First of all, we're not asking the town for help on this. Okay. there won't be any increased taxes or anything like that. Secondly, the LLC that is managing Edgewood um Edgewood the whole Edgewood facility is not going to pay for this. This is a community pool. It does not belong to anyone but the community which is why I'm bringing it to you tonight. Okay? Um, this is something that if there is no community backing and no help raising the funds, I'm not asking you to give money. I'm asking you to do fundraising. um if there's not that community um desire will input we can't we can't

so there's nothing to pull from over at Edgewood golf course anything or the town no to pull funds from to facilitate anything over I mean obviously we put a lot into it already

okay the the facility the LLC has already put in a lot of money into it however ever. We are not going to be able to say, "Yeah, let's give $20,000. That's I mean that's a random number." Okay. Well, we will obvious obviously be putting money into it, but it's not going to be it it cannot come off from the LLC or the town. It is a community project. We we're going after grant money obviously for the ADA part of it. That would be definitely something we can get grant money for. Um, but the plan the overall plan I know I didn't did I answer your question or not?

Uh, I'm just I guess kind I guess basically you're just saying that somehow the town has to selfund it. No, the town I'm sorry the community

anybody that anybody and everybody who uses the pool and it is a community pool but it's also uh open to the public. So, it's not just the residents that are going to be raising money. I'm going to ask the broad community of Anderson, Madison County who come to our pool to help. Uh some of some of the people that are here from Edgewood right now don't live even in Madison County and they're willing to work hard to get the money. So, it's not just asking Yeah. community people. It's asking the broad community. Okay. So, the the plan is number one to form a 501c3. And Mr. Austin and I have talked about this and this is something that would would put us um more in the ballpark of getting more grant money. And um it would not be related to the town of Edgewood, nor would it be related to the LLC. That way this all of these funds will go just for the pool. Then we'll have a committee formed for the U 501c3 that will work on this. We can set up a donation site online. We can engage the broader community in fundraising efforts. And then um we we are I have three people already that I'm working with to seek grant money um for the ADA community funding um which is state and federal and the USA and USDA and veteran funds. So um we've had veterans that have wanted to get in our pool and they can't get in our pool. Um there's no place in Madison County that has access. So this would be a big a big thing for our community to to offer this to the

greater community. Okay. So does that answer your question? Yeah. Okay. What happens if um we do so much fundraising but we come up short? How is this process? That'll be a financing thing we'll have to work on. I don't expect the process needs to start before we really have the money. And so we're looking at maybe even multiple because it probably take an entire um nine months to how long are they expecting the process to to build the pool? Two months. Two months.

Yes. Yes. And they prefer doing it in the fall, right? Will we be getting any other quotes from any other companies as far as checking into more than one place to see on pause? We really need to come up to the podium. I guess you know we're we're uh not following the law of the land. If you want to say something, please come up to the podium.

And you're lucky. Not sure it says you are. It's a lot. Um, my question is, are we going to get any more anybody else to come out and get a kind of a cost from any other companies other than just one company? Are we looking at an estimate from two companies? The one that was over a million that we couldn't even think about. Okay. So, we just have the two places that we've gotten estimates. Okay. All right. Anybody else have a question at this point? We can come up and say your name, please.

Brandon Solomon, 10 Northway Court. Um, I'd like to hear some of the ideas we have as far as raising funds. Um, you know, I I love the idea of having something like that in our community, and I think it'd be a huge draw. Um, great for our properties as well. But how are we raising this money? I know we've talked about, you know, perfect. I I love I love the idea of maybe pre-elling some passes for next year, you know, just getting getting something on the books. I mean, if we talk about a community wanting to get behind it, what a greater way than put our money where our mouth is and and sign up for those those even next year and in hopes that, you know, the 871 $275 is raised. Um, but I I on behalf of community, I'd like to hear kind of what we have in mind because

yeah, that's it. Right now, these are, this is a list, a 3 to 5k walk run in Edgewood sometime in September, October. A Halloween walk. We did kind of a one last year that was kind of fun, but it wasn't really publicized. A pet walk, bike ride through Edgewood. Um, and that could be a path that equals so many miles and actually being done.

Well, we might say, "Oh, the police are doing Okay. Golf outing. We already have that committed um for the spring because we're kind of hooked up for the rest of the year. And God knows that that he's not stopping rain. So, um dancing on the green with a dinner on the patio. Uh movie time um inside movies. And we're looking at having an outside movie uh with drive up out in the front. Um wine and cheese tasting, car wash, pub crawl. I'm not exactly sure how that goes, but it was suggested, so I put it on here. Coffee and conversations. This would be an afternoon event. A fun thing for people in the community. Slip and slide on greens. We have a natural hill that would be amidable to that winter snow slide on the greens. Um your insurance.

Yeah, I know. Or waiverss. Um community auction live or online. Um bake sale and a cookoff, maybe a chili cook off. Those those are just the ones that we have so far. Okay. And that's before the committee getting together and right that's before the committee. These are just you guys are going to have all the ideas the pub crawl. I'm all for that. Can I sign you up? Yes. Well, actually go ahead or for the No, we'll put you in charge of it. Okay. But one question. So if they want to

address Michelle Lewis address 20003 South winding. Thank you. That's for the public. Okay. Okay. And um so like if they wanted to start in the fall basically we have like two months to put together 800,000. They just need to know that we are working on it. Mr. Pile is probably one of the most understanding people and he told me last year that pool people like to get money in the winter too. So I as long as they're getting money as the process is going then it's a payment plan. Okay. Yes.

And what in the event that if we um all of our best efforts are not coming together, where does all that money go that has been created? And that would be in the 501c3 and we would have to probably the LLC would I'm stepping out on the land probably have to see if there's um a loan for that purpose to pay us back. I mean that's not why I'm saying no to finish it. To finish it.

Yeah. To finish it. So in the event that all of our hundreds of percents of effort fall short at at a point in time that that is determined maybe even when it's opening time as well for the community the rates cannot be like what Anderson Country Club wants to charge and no so like so continued funds for the pool will continue to only come from the community from the 50. Yeah. Yes. From the 501c3. Yes. I didn't know what the 501 It's a Okay. It's a not for-p profofit designation. Sorry. Okay.

Yeah. That's Yeah. And and that way the town's not the only source. There isn't the source here. And the LLC that runs does not have to be the only source. Okay. we can give. I mean, if the town wants to donate some money to it, that's fine. If the LLC can donate money, yes. But the 501c3 is the source for the fundraising part. And then the grants, I I really am looking at maybe if we can do 500,000 in grants. Yeah. In in grant. Wow. No, I would like to do even more

more than that in grants. And then the balance is fundraising. If we could come up with 300 to $400,000 in fundraising. Yeah, I'm thinking we can we can make it with the grant money. So, let me let me follow up with her initial what's your initial question, which I think was what happens to the money if it Yes. Yeah. Um, so I want to follow up with that and ask if we find out it is a bridge too far with a 501c3. If you dissolve those monies go to a charitable.

Yeah. When you set up a nonprofit, you say if if the company dissolves, it's got to go to another charity. I don't see a reason why you couldn't track who gets what and give it back. If it's not raised or that would be the fair. Yeah. But normally would go to another normally. Yeah. the the the articles of when you set up a 51c3 corporation, if they've got to say that if the company dissolves, it goes to a nonprofit. Uh but the 51c3 just I'm sure everybody knows this, but that would just enable us to raise money and potentially have the contributions taxed up.

Now, unfortunately, the way the tax laws have changed, uh you know, people do not or they don't have the ability to deduct charitable contributions like we once did. But so that's where you could potentially get a large donor. Mhm. You know, if the gift is tax deductible. So that's that's the reason for that set up the 51c3. And that's an IRS designation. You've got to apply for that. There's a form to do it. And and it's really not as hard as it once was.

Uh you got to set up a corporation. You got to bylaws. Uh And you've got to just, you know, go through the IRS process. There's a filing fee uh to get that 51c3, you know, corporation set up. I see. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we set a time frame that we want to try and raise this money in and we don't meet that goal in that time frame, we can still keep raising money. So, in relationship to the money being there and we didn't reach our goal yet, we can keep going and get to our goal. This might take us a little longer than we planned. Yeah. As long as we're making payments on as long as we're showing progress, then I think that it's not going to be an issue, but it's about

Well, that's definitely as like you said, property manages. Oh, gosh. Since you said you volunteered, I'm going to give you this and have you pass it around. Okay. For anybody that wants to Here's a hand. Okay. It's a form for name, address, email, and what your interest would be as far as fundraising. If you want to chair, if you want to just get out there and help, that would be fine. And if you have ideas for if you have ideas for fundraising projects, we would be definitely happy to have that. And if you would like to be on the committee for the 501c3, awesome. Sign up. I'm looking at you. I know you are.

Okay. I know. Okay. Um, anybody have any other questions about pool?

Tomorrow I'm 34:30. Um, 501c3. Is that just for the pool and the fundraising? Yep. Absolutely. So, the golf course and the dining room is not included in this. So right now the pool is going to be a separate entity from um go ahead finish

that basically is it going to be a separate entity there there was a meeting two or three months ago I mean there was a a pretty good a year thrown out that the golf course had made um and with that sticking out in people's minds uh why would this not be a umbrella for the golf course and the entire entity.

Okay. To answer that question, I will say that the pool is being put under a 501c3 in order to raise the money to have the pool for the community. That's all community. Okay? It's all the pool, the restaurant, the pub is all communityowned. The LLC is running it. Now, if you're asking why can't the golf course pay for that or why can't the restaurant pay for that, they can't. How do how how do the people out here know that?

Well, you just asked it and I'm telling um that is that is not something that um is likely feasible for any restaurant, golf course, etc. Um, individually the golf course and the restaurant are about equal for income, but it's not $871,000. Well, so that's why

the th the figure that was thrown out from the golf course guy himself was almost half of that $800,000. And Brian, I will tell you, and I I said this last time, that figure was without expenses at all. Okay. It was just gross revenue. It was gross revenue for that site. Okay. Okay. This side where the food is is about the same. Okay. At this point. Okay. Okay. Now, several months ago, someone here in the board asked if the books could be available to you guys for us since the town owns that.

They are available to the council members only. At this point, yes. Well, if the town owns this, we are the town. I'm just going to say it was hard enough for the council members to understand mathematics basically. So, you're saying we're too dumb to understand this? No, I'm not saying that. I'm I am I had to have it I had to have it explained to me. Um the um Yeah, the accountant um came and talked to the council. Okay. So, I mean is there just Okay. Uh from last year because this has been running for a year, what two years now?

Just a little over two years. Okay. So, there are figures either plus or minus column and I think everybody in this room would be able to understand the plus and minus column for each you explain as a banker I I mean I I I don't understand let me let me just give you the figure that the account set is the most important figure to be looking at and can I have May I have that speak up is that what you said speak up

I'm Okay, our accountant said that the most important figure for us to keep in mind is net operating income. Okay, this is and I I will give you these numbers. Okay, this is for the year January through June of 2025. That's this current year. Okay, for this past six months. Yes. Okay. Okay. The net operating income for the golf side is $34,4848 and on the restaurant side it is $57,7902.

Okay. And it's it's down a little bit from last year, but the golfite is is down simply because mother nature has rained and rained and rained and rained. Um, so I mean, especially the last week. Yeah. That that is the one important and I highlighted it on our reports because she said that's the one thing that's that's that's better than that answer your question.

I mean that's better than nothing. So, so Brian, we we did have an opportunity to meet with the accountant um all the members of the council and before she left, we asked her to give us a quarterly report and and it's my understanding that we asked her to give a quarterly report here so that the town is present when she gets fantastic. Transparency is always so that's that is in the works. Okay. Every month you'll get these. Mhm. I'm not trying to be derogatory to the council at all, but I didn't think you were. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. It was It was an honest question. And the fact is I didn't know what reports you needed. All right. I did. Right. Okay.

I might I might just say it for the record that Michelle Sche is the CPA preparing her financial statements and she has 30 years of experience. Um very well qualified. Okay. Now these financial statements quarterly will be presented here so anybody anybody can hear. So they'll be presented at meetings. Yes. So is this just for the golf and the restaurant side or the golf restaurant pool? Well the pool for the city in general the golf and restaurant. Golf and restaurant at this point because the pool has no income. It is at a loss because we had Right. Okay. Yeah. So she get a report just of the goals in the restaurant.

That's what we will get. And like I said, the one thing that she said that's really important to look at is the net operating. Okay. I think everybody would just kind of like to see the numbers in general that the golf course and the restaurant are bringing in like what you're what you're spending and what you're making on everything. swimming because I think everybody's confused about how much money the golf course is being what is brought in as actual most of it's spent um keeping everything going actually. Okay. And as far as the town as far as the town the town does not make a profit on this. No, I'm saying as far as the town like what the town takes in in taxes and all that

a budget for you guys to have for the whole year available to the people. You can talk to Miss Tam about that. That's available. Just talk to Miss T. Yeah, CPA. Okay. I just didn't know if we gave like a monthly accounting for the whole town for the city for the town of Edwood that was available to everybody. That would be a Catherine and look at the annual report or you can come in my office and I can fund report. Okay. So, whichever at the office that anybody wants to come in and look at can look at the whole Is there a reason why we're not giving that out every year or doing it as like in a meeting? Yeah, like a budget meeting. We we do a budget.

So, there's a budget meeting, but that's online. The the annual report would be online that you could Okay. So, either online or at the building that we can go in and see what we're taking in taxes and all that stuff. Okay. All right. Thank you. I would I would also add that once um I assume once this committee is up and running for the pool, they'll be giving regular reports on how to progress. But when she comes in to give our quarterly report, that would be a great opportunity for members of the community to ask questions as well. She who kind of shows, you know, she's not going to come monthly. She's quarterly. She said she'd come forward to the meeting. Yes. Yes, she did. She consented to that.

Okay. And we would know in advance will not be in the newsletter or how will we find out what she agenda would be in the agenda. Correct. if we know ahead of time. Yeah. Well, this is the first quarterly report. So, three months. So, would that be posted? October. You can even put it on the website. Yeah.

We'll get out information the best way we can. We'll go through the website and post that when we know that that's what's happening. And uh as this website, like I said, it just got up and running about a week and a half ago, as it does, we'll we'll be able to get our agenda posted prior to the meetings and any pertinent information. And they got a cute little scroll. You can learn rocks across the top. So, anything that's really important, uh it'll throw you throw it up there so you can see that. So, so the agenda is going to go on the website. Yeah. Time. Yep. How early will the agenda is? When you send us the agenda, is that when it'll go up? It's about a week out. When when she sent it, I'll put it on there. Okay. So, that's usually about a week out.

Okay. I hadn't yet because I wanted to talk to everybody and let them know what to expect. Okay. All right. Comments, questions? Yes, I have a comment. Hi, I'm Burns Concrete. uh local contractor, I just make suggestion that you would get involved with your local contractors to work on this project and suppliers because when you're involved and they like to donate, too help. And I've got a wedding there next month. So, the pool was kind of a big deal to me that it got taken away. So, that's why you're dancing. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So, well, no. You wouldn't want You wouldn't want to have

No. Actually, we have to look at trying to put some kind safety fencing around it right now. So, we're got nobody falls in, but I would encourage everybody to look at local contractors, suppliers. I know there's several in this this room here. Okay. Thank you,

Anybody else?

Uh Brandon Solomon at 10 Northway Court. Um, as many of you know, I'm a commercial real estate agent specializing in ensuring small towns. Um, I've spoken with Patty and a few other council members um about seeking some possible alternatives as far as just better solutions for insurance. This is not only my commercial agent, this is my niche. This is this is what I do. And so, um, I know that Patty had emailed Katherine to get those policies to me to start reviewing that. I just wanted to before the town council say, "Hey, does anyone have any questions about this process? um how long it takes, what all it takes, what's involved, why we're doing it, um etc. Just want to be, you know, if we talk about full transparency is the only way to do it. Um and I on behalf of the town just want to come before the town and say while we go down this road, does anyone have any questions for that? And that's essentially my question. Well, I think it'd be useful to give a brief synopsis of what's involved in and your role in that and what the uh end result might be or what the the benefit of that would be.

Great idea. So, um what it does is typically takes me around 30 to 45 days um to approach. I'd like I'm going to approach as many carriers as I can with this. Um, in the municipality world of insurance, there's only about five or there's about five or six total of good carriers um that I would work with. Um, basically filling out main applications and then once those carriers receive those main applications, they'll kind of look at a lot of it and say, "No, thank you." Or they'll say, "We are interested. Here's four to five more supplemental applications." and we we'll be diving in with driver's list, um schedule of values, what all the properties are owned by the town. Um they'll look at our parks, how old are the buildings. I mean, I'll I'll be diving in quite a bit to to quoting this because I want to I want to quote it accurately. Um and then once once we have that, um I'll work with those underwriters. I've got good relationships with each of these underwriters, even the underwriters that currently insure the town, um to work that premium down to just absolutely as low as I can. um I pay a portion of it as I I want to keep it low and then also as I know as we we keep the town bills low the town's in better health. Um and basically I'll it's it's a once I have all of the policy schedule values drivers list just everything the town owns. I'm off to work. I'll be communicating with Catherine to get any more additional information. Um, like I said, probably about I'd like to have this because our our insurance renews in September, I believe. I'd like to have this approaching to be done by the end of August. That'd be that'd be my goal. Um, I leave for Ireland on 8:30, so I'd really like to have it uh button down before then. Um, but no, it's I I'm doing this because it's my my agency has a huge push in this. We ensure more municipalities in the state than anyone. Um, we have more both underwriters than anyone that results for lower premium, better coverage.

Local and I'm local. I I live right over here. Every everyone knows my kid, the curly redheaded guy around. That's that's that's my son. Everyone's seen him. You don't you don't see Max and forget it. But no, this is this is what I do. I care for the town I want to be here. Like you guys were talking about, you know, 20 years from now. I'll I'll be that person that's dealing with 20 years from now. That'll that'll be me. This is this is a community I grew up in. Moved moved back to just two years ago. So, um, yeah, that's that's really it. Thank you. And I'm going to jet out of here cuz I have swim lessons in 4 minutes at AU. Make that. Thank you. Drive carefully. The police here. You bet.

Okay. Anyone else?

No other questions? comments. I do Oh, Brian. I'm sorry. Brian 3430 Berkeley. Um, you answered the questions for the first six months of this year. What is known about last year? Did we make any did did it make any money? Did I mean there's some questions there too as far as what was carried over from last year or did the town have to give money to carry it last year or what what No. Okay. But did do I have those in front of me? Last year's financials. No, I don't.

Did it make money? Yes or no? Um close to break even. Okay. And both sides golf. No. I mean, yeah. The money is all still the same. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But the golf and the restaurant event center, that's all it's a even even Steven. And obviously when you have a new business, which I know that Edgewood has had this facility for a long time, but it is new to the town taking care of it basically, right? So it's not going to be um I mean we're not going to make a lot of money the first few years and research says it takes about five years

exactly to to get it up and going so that you are making money and but I I personally I think that those records should be available to us from you know what you can Michelle would be glad to show them to you okay and explain them to you I don't I don't need line by line I'm just like to see what we did, what we didn't, what we do, what we did. I mean, I can bring those end of year to the next council meeting. Will that help? That that Yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm all about transparency when it comes to this. I I don't want any I've lived in Edgewood for 35 years. Yeah.

So, I mean, I love the city. I love the Edgewood, but I just like to see what's going on. Sure. I got you. I'm going to hit him nose. Okay. the notes. I'll bring them for you. I'm writing the notes so I don't forget. I'll remind you. Thank you. Okay. Anyone else?

Ryan, you only get two. Okay. I do want to thank the employees of Edgewood Pub Dining for being here tonight because I know they're excited about helping with the fundraising projects. They've been throwing a lot of items and ideas around for us. So, um, having a staff that really wants to do stuff to keep keep it going, it's awesome. Awesome. Okay, if there aren't any other questions or comments, um, I need uh someone to move that the minutes from the June meeting be approved. So moved.

Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. And approval of the register of claims for July. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. And is there a motion for adjournment? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I. We are ajourned.