Planning and Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

I'm gonna call the planning and zoning meeting for the city of Edgewater for Wednesday, 04/15/2026 to order. Can we have a roll call, please? Mister Duane? Here. Mister Alfametano?

No. He's no one here.

Not here. Definitely not here. Mr. Cunningham? Here. Mr. Hatcher? Here. Mr. Angel Kovic? Here. Mr. Kennedy? Here. Mr. McGinnis?

Here. Mr. Fisher?

Here.

Okay. There are no minutes to approve this time. There is no old business at this time, so we will move directly to new business. The first under new business is VA 2605, request for a variance to allow a six foot fence on the property line in lieu of the required 10 foot side corner yard setback for the property located at 202 Hubbell Street. Staff report, please.

Thank you, chair. City staff sent out public notice within 500 feet of the subject property shown on this aerial map in yellow. The applicant is requesting a variance from article three section 21 dash thirty eight zero two d to allow a six foot of pig fence on the property line in lieu of the requirement on a side corner yard lot with a setback of 10 feet, from the Elamont side. The applicant, was once before the board and had requested a variance for a 10 foot side yard corner setback. The applicant provided this sketch showing what that current 10 yard or 10 foot side yard setback would look like.

It would be on the back south corner against Lamont Street, against the house. They're requesting to have the fence on the property line. The code per article three section twenty one thirty eight zero two d does not allow this. City staff did review the application against article nine section twenty one one hundred o four d nonadministrative variance for the city of Edgewater and found that the applicant could not meet all six of the criteria. City staff do not recommend approval. Be happy to go over any of those particular of the six questions. If there's any questions by the board or from the applicant, the staff defer to the board.

Okay. Thank you. I will open the public hearing and ask if there are any comments or questions. Is the applicant in the audience? You you don't need to come up unless you want to.

We've got

questions. Okay. Board questions, comments, concerns?

Ryan, if I understand this to be correct, there is a 16 to 17 foot distance from the road to the property line.

Is that correct?

Oh, the right of way.

The right of way. Correct?

Yeah. I yeah. It looks like there's about maybe 12 feet there. Yeah.

And this fence will only come on the side of the house to that second set of windows, which is where that arrow is pointing. Right.

And it's outside the Right.

Side triangle. So it's out of the visibility triangle totally. And this is a prop I guess I have to ask the applicant this. So please step up to the microphone, give us your name and address, and then I'll ask the question.

Afternoon. Thaddeus Hardy, 820 Tealwing Drive, Orange City, Florida.

Okay. I went out and I saw the house. I remember it being the last variance that we did on it, the side yard. But this is obviously for privacy, this fence?

Yes, for privacy and also to, I guess, You know, the backyard is being a side lot. We made the, I guess, the mistake. We should have probably put this in the variance originally and didn't know it. We assumed we would be treated more like a one front yard house from the original variance when we built the house.

Mhmm.

So what it does, it gives us enough room in the backyard to like, if you store a boat or something like that because it's got a large backyard, keep some privacy from the neighborhood having to see a boat back there for one. Kinda helps their visual side, and secondly, helps with the animals, dogs, things like that.

Mhmm. The

house is eventually being built by us for my daughter and her husband. So we're just kind of trying to incorporate the window there into the fence

I saw that, yeah. Want to specifically the security

of the children.

How far down that is. And I know a forefoot is allowed, this is just basically privacy. That's why I wanted to go out and see it. It changed my mind when I saw the actual lot and the position of the House as opposed to, you know, I don't understand the privacy issue. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Any other board comments or questions? Okay. Any other public comments or questions? All right. I'm gonna close the public hearing and ask for a motion.

When I get to the page, I make a motion to approve the variance V eight two six zero five as written.

I'll second it.

Mr. Duane? Yes.

Mr. Fisher?

Yes.

Mr. McGinnis? Yes. Mr. Kennedy?

Yes.

Mr. Jacoby?

Yes. Mr. Hatcher?

Yes. Mister Cunningham?

Yes.

Okay. Next item on the agenda is VA two six zero six. Request for a variance from article five to allow a 20 foot landscape buffer instead of a 35 foot and a chain link fence around the perimeter of the parcel for the property 2611 Through 2623 Guava Drive. Staff report, please.

Thank you, Chair. City staff are not seeing the applicant or the applicant's attorney for that matter. I think we should probably table the items and reach out to the applicant. I'm not sure why they didn't show, but that would be staff's suggestion, or I can proceed with the item.

Well, let me ask this. Do we have to open? Well, you already opened the agenda item up, didn't you? So this is another one of those pieces of property on Guava where Right.

We've had this many times.

We've done these, like, 20 times. Right. Many times. And my understanding is it's going to be addressed in the next LDC, right? So do we just want to go ahead and hear

it? Yeah. Let's proceed.

Yeah. Absolutely. The request before you today pardon me, let me move through here is a request for variance to allow a 20 foot landscape buffer, which is a class B, instead of the 35 foot, which is a class D, with a chain link fence in lieu of required decorative wall or vinyl fence located for the property at 2611 Through 2623 Guava Drive. The applicant had received one in the past. However, they acquired an additional property to the south.

And so they are requesting this variance to be extended to the property to the south to facilitate this light industrial site plan with a 5,000 square foot building and parking. So the applicant is requesting a decrease in the rear yard landscape buffer to 20 feet in width in lieu of the 35, and they're also requesting a chain link fence in lieu of a six foot high decorative masonry wall or fence. This is due to there is, as you can see there, there is an alley that was platted in the Florida shores, flat, that is currently used past, this alley has been annotated by the board as really a public use. And because of that public use, the applicable landscape buffer is a class b, which is 20 feet in width according to the land development code. And but the applicant here, because it still hasn't been codified, is technically, residential, which triggers the more intensive landscape buffer.

And with that, staff, we'll be happy to answer any questions by the board.

Okay. I'll open the public hearing and ask if there's any comments or questions. I'm assuming that we sent out notices to all the interested parties and received no feedback. Okay. That was my only question.

I have a question. Out of the three parcels that are highlighted, how many were previously allowed to variance? One or two of those? These two. Two. So we're just talking about pulling one more piece of property in. And the last time, they were allowed variance for the buffer, but they were still required for the privacy fence. Correct.

And city staff would recommend keeping the vinyl fence out of it.

And I'm I'm Yeah, I'm inclined to say the same. Absolutely. Mean, I get chain link fences a quarter of the cost, but come on. Right.

If that was industrial behind it, I would say fine. But since it's residential, it definitely needs to be vinyl. Yeah, absolutely.

Make it look quality you know?

And the sound barrier.

Right. Any idea what they're planning on doing in the 5,000 DELL: square feet? Just Pardon? Any idea what they're planning on doing with said 5,000 square feet?

I think right now it's just scheduled for warehousing based on the parking of this aerial image. They haven't formally submitted. This is kind of from Anderson Dixon, a sketch basically of from the original one adding in this one, but I don't have a formal submittal yet for this site plan. I'm assuming they would submit. He basically engineered it, so I'm assuming you'd submit what he submitted for the application here.

Yeah. Because I had

to take that as what it would be.

Right. Yeah. Because it almost looks like they just turned the whole third parcel into retainage.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's Yeah. That was probably one of the reasons

Right.

Meet storm water. All right. Okay. Any other questions? Board comments? Any public comments? Questions? Okay. I'll close the public hearing and ask for a motion.

I'll make a motion for VA 2606 to allow the 20 foot buffer but remain with the six foot vinyl or masonry fencing requirement. Second.

Who was that second?

Me. That didn't help you either. I

need a bill for Wofford.

Mister Dwayne?

Yes. Mister Fisher?

Yes.

Mister McGinnis?

Yes. With a stipulation on the bench.

Mister Kennedy? Yes. Mister Antakovic?

Yes.

Mister Hatcher?

Yes. Mister Cunningham?

Yes.

GREGORY Okay. Next item on the agenda is the development services director's report.

Thank you, chair. So I will be bringing to the next month's meeting the sign code that has been cleaned of content until we will meet the town of Gilbert decision. That was really riveting stuff. And so it regulates sign size, the type of sign. City staff did the best we could under this new format to kind of copy the regulations as they are.

This s b one eighty, nothing can be more burdensome or restrictive. And so the sign code is really matching. Now the way that you see it, you won't see, like, real estate sign. It'll be snipe sign. And snipe sign is defined as two poles this thick and it it goes really into what the sign is made of and the size of the sign, the quantity, and kind of the time and manner of it.

But we can't regulate, content any longer. We are working on ADUs, fixing the landscape buffers. One of the things we noticed, when we adopted the old landscape buffer code is that for parking lots, the intent was to create a on from new commercial and industrial, to create a slight landscape area in front of buildings before you walk in. The way that it has kinda turned out is that it's not being completed that way the way it was written. And we have an issue with that 10 foot buffer.

It used to be our kind of A buffer, and we increased it to 15. And what we're noticing is a lot of applicants are frustrated because it's like for like zoning in a lot of places, and then they're having to do basically 30 feet, 15 on each side in between two like for like uses. So we need to city staff are going work on kind of mending that portion. Because I think the intent of it were opposite uses like residential to industrial in this sense. The point was to have a very dense landscape buffer, but I think we just got caught up and we didn't we missed that kind of like to like and the reasoning why we keep that reduced.

Other than that, we're working on ADUs as well. The grant for the eight foot sidewalk up Silver Palm is finally got through the scope of service with FDOT and the consultant. And so next week, we'll be setting up, the contract negotiations for the design with the design firm that was selected by the state. And, hopefully, that will be awarded it's been awarded for funding for design. And I'm hoping that either in '27 or '28, they'll get awarded for construction.

So that'll be from 30th Street on the West Side. It'll run up Silver Palm connecting to, really the existing on 22nd on Silver Palm, the existing sidewalk, but it'll make that final connection on the Borrow Pit Stormwater pond that's adjacent to, in between Glenbrook and River's Edge townhomes. And I anticipate right now that the transportation impact study for phase two of joint venture one of Deering Park, should be complete in the next probably two to three months. And so I'll be bringing the next thousand units to council for that approval, and this board. And then lastly, I know I had brought before the board the holiday builders piece on the 137 acres in the South Park.

They're currently reworking the plan to add in industrial based on feedback from people because part of the land is currently zoned heavy industrial. So they're trying to work that into the concept plan. So hopefully within the next few months, that'll be coming back as well. And city staff has also worked agreement on Jones Fish Camp Road for the design of the road with the kind of condition of when they need to build the road. So we're really looking forward to that. And the marina for the dry stack storage and the restaurant is almost ready. So I anticipate either in May or June, that'll be coming before the fourth for consideration.

I have a question, Brian. At the end of Jones Fish Camp Road, we rolled our bikes there a couple of days ago. I remember months ago, there was a clearing that started and it Now was it's ready to go. What's going in there? House?

Yeah. So when this is one of those weird ones. So when Riverfront Estates was plaided, the original landowner kept out of the plaid retained ownage of those two lots on the river.

Okay.

They were never constructed on or anything of that nature. The person clear cutted the lots. We fined them based on the city's trade code. And they paid the fee. And then they brought in fill, which they provided in a building permit to staff. And right now, they've been listed. So the intent is to build two houses on those lots. Independent of Independent of Riverfront Estates. Okay. It was part of the Riverfront Estates plat, but it's not technically part of the HOA. It was one of those kinda odd deals.

I knew something was strange when I first started when I first started clearing.

I said, it doesn't it doesn't seem right.

But I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. Anything else?

That's it. Okay. Meeting adjourned.