City Council - Regular Meeting

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All right, we will call the city council regular meeting to order. It's Tuesday, January 20th, 2026. It is now 7:01 p.m. Would everyone please rise for the invitation given by Councilman Curley, followed by the pledge of allegiance. Oh my gracious heavenly father, we ask that you would first of all be with all the people who were not inside tonight. Put your arms around them, dear Lord, and keep them warm. Have them find some place if they're hungry to to eat. And Lord, we bless this council that tonight it's a long meeting and just give us the patience and the knowledge that we would get through this without any hardships. And we bless all the people here in East

boards of commissions to the top of the agenda just so if there's anyone here for that they don't have to wait through the whole meeting. So moved. Support. Support. All right. Please call the role. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Shadlick. Yes. Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld. Yes. Council member Scott. Yes. All right. And we will start off with our presentation from Miss Frederick. Welcome. Welcome, Sarah. Good evening, everyone.

All right, it's great to be back for another year. Um, just want to introduce myself quickly to anyone new here. Uh, my name is Sarah Frederick and I'm the deputy director at the recreation authority in Roseville, East and East Point. Um, I visit here at city council meetings kind of by monthly just to give everyone an update of our upcoming events and programs. Um last week, um we ended up having to cancel our Feed the Dream event on I believe it was Thursday, um due to the lovely snow that we got. So, we rescheduled it to this Thursday. So, that means everyone can still come to it. Um throughout the month of January, we've been collecting um non-p perishable goods at the recreation authority center and also here um at city hall. And um we are hosting a craft event um for the community free for families to attend um this Thursday from 4:00 to 6:30 at the recreation authority center. Um we have also partnered with LiveRight in Roseville for this event and then um East Point's Arts and Cultural Division Commission. Um following that event, we have our Black History Month event, Unity and Diversity. that's going to be hosted on Wednesday, February 4th from 6:00 to 7:30 p.m. Um, also at the recreation authority center. Um, we're going to have some make and take crafts, um, a vision board to be displayed in the rec center lobby. Um, we are working with a company to, um, have a community mural painting to be displayed at the recreation authority throughout the month of February as well. Um so they're coming in to kind of sketch the canvas and then um families and kids can come in and paint and put their own spin on the mural. Um we are also going to be providing um free digital family portraits as well. Um so if anyone is looking to get a family portrait done and everything, um we will be having our

staff members take uh family portraits. We got a really nice background and everything. So come dressed fancy if you would like one of those. And then um from 7 to 7:30 we are going to have um spoken word and poetry from community members who would all like to share their work. Um I just received um confirmation too from a local artist, her and her sister um have our local authors who have created a book um that they want to share to the community and have a book reading during that time. So again, this is a free event. Um it's very passive um come and go, but we encourage everyone to attend this um event and celebrate Black History Month with us. Uh next is our cardboard box drive-in movie. Um the movie is announced. I have it announced soon. Um we are going to be watching um Littlefoot. Um this is a great event for uh families during mid- winter break during the school. Something fun for them to do. Um this is kind of our I believe fourth year hosting. Um it's going to be on Saturday, February 14th from 1 to 4 4 o'clock p.m. at the Rec Authority Center. Um what we uh ask is that families bring in a cardboard box um for each child and um we provide all the supplies for the kids to decorate the cardboard box as a car to sit in um during the movie. So we have them decorate the car in um one of our rooms and then we have them drive over to the large gym to watch the movie. Um, and then we'll provide some movie snacks and goodies. Um, so this one will be $5 for residents and $7 for non-residents. And then just some more upcoming events um to look forward to in March. Um, we have our doggy spring egg hunt on Saturday, March 28th. Um, our spring egg hunt for adults on Wednesday, March 25th. It's always a big hit. We usually get over a hundred people to um,

participate in that event, so that one's super fun. Um, and then our kids spring egg hunt is Saturday, March 28th. And then our lastly, our spring craft and vendor show will be Saturday, April 11th. Um, we still have vendor applications open, so if you know any local crafters that would like to be a part of that event and sell their goods, um, we are still accepting those applications. Um, lastly, um, we still we have our new winter newsletter out, the programs that run through January through April. Um, so please be sure to register for those. We've had a few start, but we have a lot starting um up at the end of January, early February. I know it's kind of crazy after the holidays to get everyone back in the swing of things, but just want to send a reminder out to register for those programs. And then I wanted to put a also a special plug in about our swim programs. Um over the years um both East Point and Roseville residents have expressed their um want and need of swim programmings for the community. Um our department has worked really hard with the um schools um to get these programs running and um we have a great crew of lifeguards and water safety instructors um to run these programs. Um we're just not seeing the numbers um of the classes filling up. So, if you could help us out, spread the word that we are now. There's my contact information up there if anyone has any questions, but always feel free to contact the record authority and ask for me or anyone else and we're happy to help.

Thank you very much. Anyone from council have questions? Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right, guys. As always. Yeah. Great job.

Thank you. Ken, did you want to Yep. All right. And with that, we will open the first hearing of the public. Would anyone wish to be heard? Anyone wish to be heard? Oh, you can hand that to them now.

Hi, Jennifer Nicholas, East Point resident. Um last meeting on January 6, um council had closed session and after the close session, you came out and Councilwoman Pashadlick made the following motion. I would move that Moses roses were eligible and met the criteria by December 31st, 2025 and they are eligible for retail license. Um, I don't know if you know, maybe during your comments or at some portion that you could define the criteria for being eligible for a retail license for marijuana. U back on February 18th of 2025, Mayor Kleinfeld made a motion to um amend the language at the end of section 10 to read, "When properly renewed, will be designated as a provisioning center retailer permit, but only if the permit holder of the facility is open and operating by December 31st, 2025." on March 4th, 2025 um city council meeting, Mayor Kleinfeld stated, "I'm not willing to remove the deadline. I think there was a lot of debate whether we would even have a con conversion ordinance if someone is not going to be able to have the medical license in time that they are able to participate in the licensing process just like everyone else." Um I really was against it in the beginning. So, I I feel a firm deadline line is fair in this circumstance. So, I guess I'm wondering, did Moses Roses have their medical marijuana license by December 31st of 2025? And if so, what date did they receive their medical marijuana license? Have they received all approvals from the building department? Has the city issued them a

business license? Um, I see online that they still have unpaid back taxes, property taxes. For 2023, they owe $10,68.83. And for 2024, they owe $40,344.50. Both of these are to the Mcome County Treasurer. It looks like they did pay their 2025 summer tax to the city in the amount of $34,4253. That was due on September 1st of 2025 and they paid it on January 6th of 2026. So, um, again, I'm just

You have 30 seconds. if they Moses Roses is actually open and operating by December 31st. Every time I've driven past there, they're not open yet. And I guess the bigger question is why was this discussed in closed session and not openly um at at a regular portion of the meeting? Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wish to hear?

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So, I'd like an update. What is going on with um the investigation with those rabbits that were left in below freezing temperatures during the nativity scene? Um, I contacted the media because when Fox 2 ran the story, um, you know, there were written statements that they would provide a comment to the media and no comment has been provided. So again, I'm going to remind you that the rabbits being kept in below freezing temperatures and the biting windchill. It not only violates the Michigan anti- cruelty statute, hence its neglect because there's no adequate shelter. There was no roof, there were no walls, there were no tarps, there was absolutely nothing to protect these rabbits from the elements. For over an hour, wet, heavy snow fell on those rabbits. These are not wild rabbits. These are domestic rabbits. This further violates the Animal Welfare Act [clears throat] that states in cold weather, shelter must be provided for all rabbits kept outdoors when atmospheric temperatures fall below 40° and rain and snow. Rabbits must have access to shelter that allows them to remain dry during rain or snow. We've got blatant violations going on here and I want to know why and when are these

charges going to be filed? Churches don't get free passes to violate any ordinance, any state or federal law. If you want further information on this, you can always go to www.animalaw.info info or look up the animal legal and historical center. It can give you far more information because I can't cram it all into in less than three minutes. And I see that once again, the church wants to get a special permit for fireworks. And if you're going to put your money where your mouth is, you want to prove how much you care about animals, you deny the permit. Because all fireworks do is it pollutes the environment. I've talked about this numerous times about the toxic chemicals in the fireworks, how it terrorizes cats, dogs, birds, and wildlife. And all those animals living in Spindler Park were there long before the church. They can always do a drone light show instead. It's more cost effective. It doesn't harm animals or the plant. Thank you.

Thank you. Um, anyone else wish to be heard? [clears throat] And Miss, I I see you were here from Care House. Um, we have a separate hearing for that. So,

um, no, you're good. All right. Uh, with that, the first hearing of the public is closed and we will move into approval of the minutes. Uh, item A, regular meeting minutes from January 6, 2026. is for child victims of sexual abuse, physical abuse, and children who have witnessed a violent act as well as their non-offending family members. Our goal is to minimize trauma for the child victim and to provide coping skills, advocacy, and case management for the families. We collaborate with all law enforcement jurisdictions in Mcome County, child protective services, the Mcome County Prosecutor Office, and medical and mental health professionals. [clears throat] Career House serves as a beacon of hope for children victims of abuse, providing them with a safe space where their voices can be heard and the needs of their parents will be met. Our services include crisis counseling, child safety and trauma responses, parent and child support groups, trauma focused therapy sessions, assistance with crime victims compensations, interpreters, and transportation services as needed as well. As the designated council in Mcome County for the Michigan Children's Trust Fund, Care House also offers child abuse prevention information and education to children in the community. Families are never charged for any of the services that we provide here at Care House. We pro provide all services to all referred children in their non-offending family. I [clears throat] am proud to report that according to um the most recent independent financial audit, 89 cents of every dollar that comes to care house is specifically devoted to serving childrens and families in our community. [clears throat] Carehouse has coordinated over 11,800 forensic interviews. Since 1996, 554 of those resident resided in East Point. We depend on our support from the community to provide a voice for our child victims in a safe place for them to be heard. We are very grateful for your past support

and um respectfully request your consideration for funding this upcoming year to support services for 10 qualifying children and their families that reside in East Point. Of course, we will be grateful in any amount that is allocated to us. For more information, please visit our website and thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Anyone have any questions? Uh I think we'll do the hearing first and then uh one of our first agenda items, if you don't mind sticking around for a moment, if anyone has questions, we can ask them then. Okay. Thank you. Uh would anyone else like Thank you. Yeah, if you can just hand them to uh Randy on the end there. [clears throat]

Good evening. My name is Sheila McCann and I'm the volunteer coordinator with Interfaith Volunteer Caregivers. With the number of adult older adults in Mcome County rapidly increasing, the need for support services due to frailities of age, chronic health conditions or disabilities, as well as a lack of assistance due to changing family structure. This is growing dramatically and will continue to do so in the future. For over 30 years, our organization has been providing free basic assistance to hundreds of frail older and physically challenged adults, helping them to remain safely in their homes with the help of hundreds of volunteers. [clears throat] This assistants have been helping older and disabled adults with transportation, chores, respit breaks, errands, and loneliness. These opportunities provide fulfilling experience for those who wish to volunteer as well as support for those in need. The CDBG Safe at home project of IVC is a part of our larger chore and repair program for older and disabled adults. The project was developed to provide additional chore and repair services in the communities that are allocating funds for this purpose. Safe at home allows us to assist low to moderate income seniors and physically challenged adults with indoor and outdoor chores, minor home repairs, and routine housekeeping. We identify individuals who cannot do these tasks on their own and have limited resources and prioritize those with the greatest need. We are requesting the CDBG funds to increase the number of lowincome citizens we can reach to grow our program as well as to coordinate the volunteers who do these services. IVC provides almost 20,000 hours of help over its services to nearly 500 people in need each year. With the CDBG funding, we awarded funding to complete 47 tasks in East Point. We were project

but we are projected to complete 65 for the 2526 funding year. We project that we will complete 80 projects for the 2627 funding year and we're we're confident that additional CDBG funding will allow us to assist assist many more residents of East Point which this m with this much needed service. Some examples of help through this project may be replacing locks, washing windows, raking leaves, routine housekeeping, minor home repairs, and installing smoke alarms. With the CDBG funding, the project can continue to grow and assist and can be granted to a variety of lowerincome East Point senior citizens and disabled adults. We appreciate your consideration. Any dollar amount granted is greatly appreciated for our program. We hope to continue to partner with you going forward. And if anybody here tonight knows of seniors that may use our uh services, I've provided some brochures and we are always happy to provide East Point uh city office with some more brochures. Um that are looking for assistance. Uh, also if you're looking uh to give the gift of time as a volunteer, please let us know by calling our office at 586757551 or visiting our website at www.ibcinfo.org.

Thank you.

Thank you very much. Would anyone else coming up? [clears throat] Good evening. My name is Mallalerie Montgomery and I'm the director of the counseling and advocacy department with Turning Point Incorporated. I'm here on behalf of Turning Point's shelter program. Turning Point has been providing a safe place for families fleeing violence since 1980 and we celebrated 45 years of services to support survivors of domestic violence, sexual violence, and human trafficking just last year. Between July 1st, 2024 and June 30th, 2025, our emergency shelter program provided 40 shelter shelter bed nights to 101 residents of East Point. Across other agency programs, Turning Point served 153 residents of East Point. Our emergency shelter program is a safe haven for survivors of domestic and sexual violence. It provides immediate safety, crisis intervention, and resources to families trying to establish safety. This project is a multifaceted approach to end the cycle of violence within families. Turning Points. Two shelter case managers meet with every new shelter resident within 24 hours of their arrival. We develop individualized plans based off of their goals. We also work to plan for their safety, housing, and financial stability. This plan can include literacy, immigration, credit repair, and supportive counseling services during and after leaving the shelter. Emergency shelter management programs have developed in collaboration and linkages to multiple systems, organizations, businesses, and churches that can help domestic violence survivors maintain their safety when leaving the shelter. And there is strong

evidence which states that improving survivors knowledge of and access to community resources leads to higher quality of life and less risk of reabuse over time. Resource building serves as a protective factor that enhances women's safety within and outside of our shelter. We continue to provide comprehensive services to children while they are in shelter and after they leave. Our children's department supports crisis support, educational assistance, tutoring, safety planning, recreational activities, and someone is on site seven days a week for our children and teens as their coordinator. We also have a day camp that runs in summer for all ages. Many children keep in contact with us for many months after leaving our shelter. And our children's crisis advocates work with children and teens, so we can follow them from their time upon arrival, even after they've left us for up to two years. Turning Point Shelter facility is completely accessible to those with disabilities, including an elevator, ramps, and bed space for those that use accessibility devices. We have increased our educational spaces, indoor and outdoor play areas for the children and the teens. We have private sleeping and bathroom facilities, and multi-purpose rooms that function as a dining room, activity room. Counseling spaces are private and confidential and built in with the shelter program. We can see clients wherever they're at and meet them where they are. The spaces that we use are often in need of repair and restoration. However, we would like to focus our ask for the East Point CDBG budget to all lot $8,500 to fund shelter meals, basic needs, crisis intervention, case management,

child care, program advocacy, and our work to continue to support them with individual and group counseling. Thank you for your time and consideration to Turning Point Incorporated. Thank you. Oh, you're fine.

Good evening. My name is Christa Carpenter and I am the executive director of Hearts for Homes. Hearts for Homes is a nonprofit organization here in Mcome County helping homeless and lowincome families find sustainable and affordable housing. The average two-bedroom apartment in Mcome County averages between two and $1,200 and $1,500 a month. Most landlords are charging one and a half times that for the security deposit. So, you're looking at about $4,000 to $4,500 to move into any housing, whether that's apartment or uh individual dwelling. So, what we try to do is help with the security deposit in the form of a,000 to $1,200 per family. It gives them a the money becomes theirs and it gives them a vested interest in keeping the place wellkept so that they re get security deposit comes back to them. becomes their nest egg. Last year we helped uh 45 families which equates to 91 children in Mcome County. Six of those families and 13 children were here in East Point. We were hoping that you guys would continue your support of Hearts for Homes and help us. East Point is one of our cities that goes very quickly. We're done first quarter because everybody wants to live here because it's a wonderful city to live in. So, we'd appreciate if you'd consider us helping us this year as well.

Thank you. Thanks. Right. Would anyone else wish to be heard in regards to the CDBG uh allocations? All right. We will close the public hearing for that. Um and we will move into uh there's no unfinished business reports from administration, city manager report. Uh Mr. Menace.

All right. Hello. Uh couple of quick reminders for us this evening. Um and a couple other things going on. Um we're we've been busy the last several weeks. Um lots of uh lots of meetings and things working on projects and um contracts and all kinds of fun things coming up into the future. So there there's lots going on with uh with buildings, facilities, parks. There's a lot of lot of irons in the fire currently. Um, we are excited for our our city council tour of city facilities on January 31st. So, I will send details for that. Um, it'll be a workshop, so no decisions happen during that, but we will get a look at all the city facilities as we prepare um as we begin working on the budget for next year. Uh, we had a very good I think one the one thing I wanted to bring up to you and I I guess now would be a good time uh discussion on maybe changing our date for the joint planning commission. Uh the PL I know that the chair reached out said I'm not in town. Um I think they'd like us to have it on March 5th.

Yep. Our our joint meeting with um planning commission development related boards u that we talked about last time for March I believe 17th. We're looking at moving to March 5th. We will we'll make that official in the near future, but um the the 17th poss uh we will find a time for that meeting that will be an hour or less. Is that the 15th the council meeting as well? The No, that's not moving. It's one of It's uh I think it's one of their meeting dates. Okay. Yeah, it's a planning meeting date. Okay. Yep.

So, they'll get home court advantage, but we'll we'll be good neighbors, too. Um any questions from council? All right. Finance directors for Mr. Blum. Yes. Good evening, mayor and councel. Uh the agenda is long enough. I'm not going to add to it, but I'm open for questions. There you have it. Do you have any questions? No. Okay. All right. Uh city attorneys report, Mr. Albbright.

Thank you, uh mayor, members of council. Mine will be a little longer than Mr. Blums, but uh um I circulated uh several ordinance uh changes uh for council's consideration. Uh the first is the microchipping of dogs and cats which was uh recommended by the city's animal control officer. Also a provision which would regulate uh animals being uh locked in a in a car during extreme temperatures. Also a spray and neuter requirement for uh cats. If uh those uh ordinances are acceptable, I can put those in uh ordinance form for first reading at the uh next meeting if council so chooses. Um, I I I wasn't sure. Well, I think some of them I wanted on there. I don't know if I wanted all of them. I would suggest the council would would you guys be okay if we just reviewed it and if anyone wants to add it, reach out to Ryan and Mr. Albbright and add it to the agenda.

Okay, that's fine. Okay. Okay. Thank you, mayor. And I also have uh drafted a proposed policy uh regarding ADI ADA public comment. Um, I've circulated that to, uh, city administration. I have received some comments. I'm going to incorporate, uh, those comments into the proposed policy and have that on the agenda for, uh, council's consideration at the first meeting in February. And that's all I have. Uh, mayor, I'm happy to answer any questions. Any questions for Mr. Albbright? Thank you.

Thank you. All right. We'll move into new business. We're going to start with the reappoints to boards and commissions. And uh I suppose would anyone like to just start off with a motion or motions?

Motion to reappoint um East Point Memorial Library Commission member Leadonna Ley and Kevin Murphy with term expiration dates of August 15, 2029. Motion to reappoint park commission member. Should I let me do one at a time? Okay. Is there support? I'll support. Right. Comments, please call the RO. Council member Scott. Yes. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Bashadlick. Yes. Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld. Yes.

All right. Whoever wants to go. Motion to reappoint beautifification commission member Pamela Russell and Kevin Murphy with the term expiration date of October 15, 2028. [snorts] Please call the roll. Council member [snorts] Scott, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. And uh board of ethics. I [laughter] I

Okay. Motion to reappoint ethics boards member Eric Lloyd and Gary Facic with term expirations of June 30th, 2028 and to reappoint member Lynn Tubbin with a term expiration date of June 30th, 2027. Support. I please call the RO. Council member Scott, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Motion to reappoint park commission member Gary Seaciac and Betty Bishop with term expiration dates of October 15, 2028. Support. What was that amount?

Um I would I would move to um utilize the sum of $23,400 to be allocated. Oh, six ways in uh $3,900 per organization. Okay, Mr. [clears throat] Mayor, if I may. Yeah. Uh, yes. Oh, you want to take that one? No, sorry. The senior chore program, um, the 15,000 I should have put it in there. The 15,000 automatically goes to that. I was I was wondering I thought that's what you were going to say. So, I didn't know if Right. You wanted to change the calculations. I think Randy was supposed to bring a calculator.

We don't have a spreadsheet anymore. Come on, finance guy. All right. So, just so I can You were looking to divide it up evenly. I just figured that would be the easiest way to do it. If you have a different idea, that's fine, too. Um, and what was that amount to each? Uh, it was $3,900 divided among the six, but it appears that the um senior tour program automatically gets the 15,000. So, it would be 46.80 80 per organization if you split it between five of them. Between the five. Okay. And which ones did you list again?

I listed um Care House, I'm sorry, Care House, Hearts for Homes, Interfaith Volunteer Caregivers, uh Mcrist, and Turning Point. Okay. Um I would be I mean I'd be okay with that. Okay. Um, so that would just leave out Maggie's wigs for kids and single family as well as wave pro. Oh, no, they're not eligible. I'm sorry. I think Samaritan House is in there, too.

Um, yeah, there's no request for Samaritan House shown here. No, there isn't. So, and we're we're okay going above what the what um some of the places ask for like that's no issue, is there? I mean doing that. I don't know if that like I know some people asked like one group asked for 1,200. Are we uh allowed to go above that amount for everybody? I didn't include that group. I'm sorry. Okay.

Yeah. I think interfaith uh voluntary would be higher, but I I don't think um I mean looking at that one, they if I'm reading this correctly, they overspent more. They spent more than we allocated. So I I think because of that, I'm okay with it. And then, you know, the ones that are getting a little bit under um align with the ones that some funds were uh returned to the county.

Okay. Um, okay. I guess I I I had a breakdown where I was trying to include everyone who asked for something and I think that one, two, three, four, five, six that that would be seven people or seven um nonprofits that asked. Um, and I was trying to I guess the way that I looked at it and I mean it's you guys can tell me how you feel. I looked at what everybody spent and I know some people underspent and we lost some funds that got recaptured by the county I believe it was and then there were some that over spent. So I had a slightly different breakdown, but [clears throat] I wouldn't be opposed if I guess Well, I'll just tell you how I looked at it. I looked at care carehouse um I had 5,000 for them which was clo it's was still a little bit above um where they spent uh where with in 2024 for the actual spending um I had hearts for homes at 3,000 interfaith at 3600 mcrest at 5,390 um Maggie's wigs for kids at the 1,200 that they asked for single family at 3,000 and turning point at $2,210. Um, and and some of what I looked at was just some of the funds that we lost based off of under spending. And I and I I get that it's a needsbased thing, but you know, that that's just kind of the breakdown that I came up with. And then everybody that's that asked [snorts] for something still gets something or somewhere close to what they asked for more or less. Well, for the most part, but I mean, how do you guys feel? Or you want to just keep it with the initial?

I guess the only thing is So, Randy, we won't know until next year really what single family living correct had spent. Yep. Okay.

So, u So, Mr. mayor the U suggestion and I guess it's a motion um including everybody except the ones who didn't ask for anything. I mean like single family living Samaritan house a wave um never asked for anything but I I like the idea that you that was presented um to even it out. I I would ask one question uh from the finance director. Funds lost. Can you explain that to us, please? You want to take it? I'm let him take it. CDBG rep. Mr. Mayor, if I may.

Sure.

Um so this is the first year that the county has actually given us an update. Now, the the the amounts that are listed that were spent or or lost were from 2024 because the 2025 program is is still going on. Um so what it means is we allocated um for instance carehouse $9,000, but they only spent $4,076. So there's $4,923 that did not get spent. Um the nonprofits are required or the rules of the CDBG is that the first three quarters of the year the funding must be spent in the municipality. If there's no use for if there is not a need in the municipality the last quarter of the financial year they can spend it in Mcome County itself. Um so that what they're saying is that that 4,900 as an example um was not spent in the community. So, and it was not re uh allocated or reallocated to anything else. So, as in total, the county lost about 17 million uh sorry, 17,000 um East Point residents themselves, it was 9,773 that were not spent on East Point residents or in the county.

So, when you say lost, back to help me out. I sorry, I'm listening to what you're saying, but I you lost me. Uh they was well let let me care house has said funds lost four $4,9923. Did we literally lose that money or was it just not spent? I mean when you use the word lost are you talking we literally lost in cash the $4,900 those that funding went back to HUD unspent.

So we really didn't lose it. Well, we lost we did not receive $9,000 total that should have been spent in our community or in Mcome County. So, the federal government kept it. So, it didn't come out of our treasure. No. Okay. So, it was unspent. I I I guess I'm a little I don't know what word I want. I I guess I'm a little perplexed saying that we we lost that money. We really didn't lose it. And it just wasn't spent. And correct. Then the county, it went back to the county. The county didn't. So who kept the for 4,900? HUD. Okay. Housing. Yeah. All right.

The federal government. Well, all right. I understand what you're saying, but I don't We didn't lose it. It It got taken back and it didn't get spent on anybody in the community. So, it didn't benefit our community is more or less. Well, it wouldn't Well, when you say it didn't benefit our community. It didn't it didn't get used in our community is what I'm saying. Our care house didn't it. It did not get used. That's the money that Yeah. They had a certain amount allocated and then they only spent part of it and then the county or whoever took the money back or kept it so it didn't get used to benefit residents or Mcome County residents.

That's right. Um, so there was in the in the writeups for like the wigs for kids, I I think at the bottom the notes indicate it was allocated 4,500 for the 2024 year, but that was not with any from East Point if I'm read am I correct on that? We didn't award last year to them. Okay. [cough and clears throat]

That is correct, mayor. So the on that sheet, Chesterfield, Mcome Township, New Baltimore, Shelby Township, Washington Township, um they were allocated $4,500 but only spent $853. So then unspent was uh $3,646.

Okay, that's what I was wondering about. Um, well, I guess so. I don't think anyone supported any motions, so I think at this point we're just still chatting. Uh, Councilman Baker, I think I I I'm worried. I mean, if if we want to throw some money at Wigs for Kids, I don't feel confident that'll get spent. I think it could be clawed back. If we do allocate to them, I' probably want it to be at least a little to see if they'll use it this year. I do, I think, agree with put adding in the single family living because it's the second year. We don't have the data to see if they've if they've used it. So, I I'd kind of like not deny him this year just because they haven't been able to report yet. Um, so maybe uh I think I would probably be supportive of taking the full amount and dividing it among those six. Okay. I mean, I'm not going to argue about it. U the the amount that I asked for that I just um say for Wigs for Kids was just what they asked for. I didn't think it was that much based off of what everybody else is getting. But if you want to do it amongst the sixth, I mean it's fine.

Um or how about this actually? So divided six ways. Is that what you originally had? 3900. Yes. Six ways. Um what I would suggest actually I'll just make a motion. We'll see what happens. Um we're good. Five that were mentioned and then um instead of wigs for kids getting the 38 that you're suggesting that they would get 600. Yes. And the other five would get other six. 30 six would get 38. Yes. Okay. And you got a motion. Motion and that was supported. Yes.

Any other discussion? Please call the RO. Mayor Kleinfeld. Yes. Council member Shadlick. Yes. Council member Scott. Yes. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Curley? Yes. All right. Uh we will move on to approval of brick and mortar projects for 2026 CDBG competitive applications

and thank you everyone.

Okay. Can I can I ask one question before we go? Yeah. Um I know we have two projects that are um recommended here and it's asking that we give higher priority to one of the two. Is that am I understanding that correctly? Yes.

Okay. And um so between the two projects, is there one that is deemed any more severe condition than the other or are they about the same as far as like the uh reconstruction of like the the one is the full reconstruction of Raven from Forest to Hos and the other is Roxanna from 9 mile to 440 ft north of 9 mile. So, like is there one that's deemed higher priority than the other or do they weigh about the same? Good. Oh, please. Yes.

Good evening, mayor and council. I can answer that question real quick. On the map, we list the priorities. Uh we actually uh the our priority ranking would be Raven uh from Forest to Hos. Okay. Okay. I that's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure that I had it right. Okay. Well, I'm prepared to make a motion if Go for it.

Okay. Well, I will move that we authorize city administration to prepare and submit applications to the Mcome County Competitive Grant Program for Community Development Block Grant funds in the amount of $150,000 uh each for the following two proposals. Full reconstruction of Raven from Forest to Hos and also full reconstruction of Roxanna from 9M to 440 ft north of 9 mile with higher priority given to uh the full reconstruction of Raven from Forest to Hos and further authorize the city manager to execute all documents necessary for the program

support. All right. Any other questions on that one? Please roll. Sorry. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld. Uh, yes. Council member Shadlick. Yes. Council member Scott. Yes. Uh, moving on to item C. Approval of contract for flocks concrete uh, pavement repairs. I move that we award flocks avenue concrete pavement repairs from hos to 10mile to Luigi Ferdinandi and Sun cement company of Roseville Michigan in the amount of $163,29060 which includes a 10% contingency and further authorize the city manager to execute all necessary documents

support. Any questions on that one? I do have a question. Um I believe it would be for our um AEW. Is that going to be um full replacement of the cement there? I'm just asking because there's an area in that on flocks. I live right by there. Uh that dips. It's very low. I'm sure you know right by the school there where it when it rains it floods. Would that area be replaced is what I guess I'm kind of curious about. I can't say specifically the area that you're referring to, but generally it's a pavement patching program, but if there are sunken areas, then then those areas will be removed and replaced as part of the project. Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions? Please call the RO. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. All right. Uh, moving on to item D, approval of contract for 2026 pavement uh, striping program. I move that we award the contract for the 2026 pavement striping program to PK Contracting of Troy, Michigan in the total amount of 252,778.35 which includes a 10% contingency and further authorize the city manager to execute all necessary documents. Mr. support support.

I have a uh just m mayor just just let the audience know this project involves a resealing of joints and cracks along local roads and this year the area is between 8 mile and toeer from west city. Oh councilman, that'll be the next one. Well, I just jumped ahead. [laughter] Slap me right in the face. Um, what are you laughing at? You know, you're still here. Who knew? So, well, I will I will say Sorry.

No problem. I asked administration ahead of time because I I don't know if it was in here. Um, this is not just the painted. I believe it's the plastic like the better quality uh striping that's supposed to last. So, um, [sighs and gasps] call the roll. [clears throat and cough] Council member Baker, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Item E. Councilman Curley,

no. I would uh I'll make the motion, but I just want to let the folks know this project involves resealing of joints and cracks along local roads. And this year, the area is between 8 mile and toe from West City Limits to Kelly Road. I want to move the um award the contract for the 2026 joint and crack sealing program to minimum construction of Wixom, Michigan in the amount of $175,291 which includes a 10% contingency fund and further authorize the city manager to execute all necessary documents.

I'll support that motion for Scodeller construction of Wix, Michigan. I was going to ask is that scout? Um, all right. Please call the role. Council member Curley, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Shadl, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, uh, yes.

Uh, item F, approval of contract for 9 mile and Lexington water main replacement. Would anyone like to make a motion? I move that we award the 9mm road water man replacement from Tuscanany to Kelly and the Lexington Avenue water man replacement from 9mm road to Stevens to Ielli Construction Company of Shelby Township, Michigan in the amount [snorts] of 2,854,7712 which includes a 10% contingency and further authorize the city manager to execute all necessary documents.

Um, I'll support that. I did just want to confirm uh and I think I think I figured out the answer that is awarding it with the the base bid with the alternate so it's with the um tunneling. That is correct, mayor. It does include the alternate that would be directional drilling under the Kelly intersection. Okay. Do we should that be specified in the motion that it's including that or are we good as I think it's included in the dollar amount that we've we've recommended. So we should be okay. Okay. Right. Any other questions? Please call the RO. Council member Baker, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Council member Shadlick,

yes. Right. Item um G, approval of special land use for 24700 Gratchet. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, I would move to approve the proposed special land use for a used automobile sales facility at 24700 Garashit 02-14-231-004 based upon the finding of facts and the planners review letter dated November 26, 2025 and the planning commission commissioner's recommendation after a duly noticed public hearing at the planning commission meeting on December 4th, 2025. Support.

Yeah. Mr. Mayor, I would also just let the people know that this project uh proposes renovating of the parking lot, painting the existing building, and add an ornamental fence, which would be nice. Right. Any other comments? Please call the RO. Council member Curley. Yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Scott, yes.

Um item uh H, introduction and first reading of ordinance number 26-1253, zoning uh text amendments. Would anyone like to make a motion? I would move uh to introduce and give first reading to ordinance number 26-1253 to amend city charter 50 zoning article two overview of zoning districts and the zoning map article 7 general provisions article B 8 parking loading and ex excess and article 19 glossery and schedule a second reading and adoption for the regular city council ing February 3rd, 2026. Um, I will support that. Um, and I think this is the first reading. I think I had some questions about uh the setbacks and things, but I think we can address that at at the next meeting. Please call the RO.

Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfelt. Yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Scott, no. Council member Baker, no. Item uh I, introduction, first reading of ordinance number 2612554, uh, general zoning amendments.

Mr. Mayor, I would move to introduce and give first reading to ordinance number 26-1254 to amend chapter 50, zoning article two, overview of zoning districts. Article 7, general provisions, article 9, landscaping. Article 10, signs, article 13, special land use review. Article 19, glossery and the zoning map, and to schedule a second reading and adoption of the regular council meeting on February 3rd, 2026. Support.

All right. Uh, any questions? Please call the RO. Council member Curley, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Baker, yes. All right. Um, thank you. Moving on to uh approval of the graphic crew special event application.

Move to approve the special event application for the East Point Grash Cruise and related classic car shows on June 9 to June 13, 2026 contingent on the following requirements. All food trucks are to be inspected and permitted 5 days before the event. Any tents larger than 10 by 10 must be approved one week before the event. The event will be coordinated with the police department and department of public works and services and related costs will be covered. All vendors must be licensed with the clerk's office prior to the event and the committee will provide the required general and liquor liability. support.

Right. Any comments or questions. Please call the roll. Council member Shadlick. Yes. Council member Scott. Yes. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Curley? Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld?

Yes. Um item uh K. Approval of the special event application for the Better Life Church fireworks on July 3rd, 2026. Motion to approve the special event application of Better Life Church for fireworks on July 3rd, 2026 in Splendor Park adjacent to the Better Life property contingent upon the following requirements. All food trucks must be inspected and permitted 5 days before event. Any tents larger than 10x10 must be permitted and comply with the International Fire Code 2021, chapter 31. Fireworks. No commercialgrade fireworks with a properly licensed operator or only consumer grade fireworks are permitted. The city of East Point must be listed as an additional insured. There must be a proper safety zone from the launch site.

I'll support but that uh where it says fireworks with no uh no commercial grade um fireworks, it should be without a properly licensed operator. So it's just a little typo. Um [clears throat] Mr. Mr. Mayor, I got a question before you fall call the role. Someone explain to me what commercial grade fireworks are and consumer grade fireworks are and who made that decision. Is anyone able to speak to that?

I can take a crack at that. Um, I believe commercial ones would require there's licenses and operators who who um they have to maintain those licenses to put on the show. So, those explode higher or they're bigger, I believe. So, I'm not an expert on it. Um, it's been a while since I was a kid that played with fireworks. Um, but the there are a lot of uh consumer grade fireworks that are available because you can fly them in Michigan, but um there are bigger and different sizes and gauges and things like that um that require licensing and permitting. So, okay. Uh any other questions?

No. Please call the role. Council member Scott. Yes. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld. Yes. Council member Shadlick. No. All right. Um, moving on to uh item L, discussion on opioid settlement funds. Would anyone I guess like to open up?

Uh, yeah. I did ask this finance director, how much money are we talking about? Um, so far, uh, $346,77763. Okay. And the freedom freedom or the to make a motion to where we want this money to go is this list on the first page. is that you [clears throat] had mentioned before the meeting that there are certain places for certain things that that you can do with the money.

Yeah, that's all the following pages. Um it's listed as exhibit A and schedule B that came from the various uh opioid settlement agreements [snorts] and that's the only things we can spend it on.

Okay. Well, I'll just make a comment then we I won't make an emotion yet, but um there's a lot of places where this money can go to and I'm sure all five of us would probably have a different idea where the money should go to. Um I'm in favor and and I would uh uh agree to uh dividing it equally to the fire department and the police department. Now, what they can use use it for, I I don't know. And maybe I don't know if you've read those five or six pages or not, but they certainly can decide once they get the money what what they can do. I don't know if they could use it for repair. I don't know. But my my but my choice would be to give half of it to the fire department, half it to the police department. E both departments could use it for training related to the opioids. Uh we talked about using it for the purchase of Narcam. Currently we get it for free from the county. So we don't actually expend any money on that. Um excuse me. [clears throat] Um actually Chief Haynes, do you want to talk about your program you had mentioned?

Sure. Um so briefly it's in I'm going to get the acronym wrong. I mean it's fan but it used to be families against narcotics. Now, I and I can't remember what they changed it to. Um, but they have a program that's called QRT. It's quick response team. And what that involves is us having officers go with them um to residents, apartments, wherever the case may be to where there has been a recent overdose and trying to do outreach and get them into counseling, get them into, you know, a rehab facility. Um, that sort of thing. And that would require us to um have anou with fan which we do for hope not handcuffs and other in other programs. Um this would basically cover the overtime cost of having officers come in um on either a weekly, bi-weekly, monthly basis, whatever I can afford to go out um and assist Fan with getting help for uh opioid overdoses.

Uh I guess Mr. Aubrey. Thank you, mayor. Uh, last week I did receive uh an email from uh the case manager who is administering uh the funds on behalf of the city. Uh she's a member of a law firm and um she reached out to me. So, uh, if the council did decide to give 50% to the police department, 50% to the fire department, if a question ever came up by either department on, uh, the usage or proposed usage of of those funds, um, that question could simply come to me and then I could, uh, raise it with Miss Handy to say, "Okay, uh, one of our departments proposes to use this uh, this money a certain way. would that fit under one of the uh the categories uh listed uh in the uh in the in exhibit E and see what uh they had to say.

Go I'm sorry. Go ahead. Um actually you you would raise your hand uh Mr. Chad first. So you go ahead.

I do have a quick question. Um how about because I think FAN's a phenomenal organization. I think that's a great idea. Um but I'd also like to propose something like LiveRight. They're right here on Grashet. They're local in Roseville. Um I don't know if anybody's familiar with their facility or not, but uh they do a lot of great work in the community. A lot of outreach, especially for residents even here in East Point. Um they utilize it that they do um some really phenomenal work there. I'm wondering if something like that would be beneficial if we could donate something towards that. um maybe even a lesser amount or something just uh I I think it would be a good organization locally that would be utilized immediately in this vicinity. There is definitely a need. Uh they they also they hold NA meetings there and stuff like that. They do outreach. They have housing. They do all kinds of um community outreach. And so I'm I'm in support of something that would um we can use the funds that would help the youth. Now, I know LiveRight also has programs where they also help the youth and would help educate them about opioids and um assist them with um

sobriety. Yeah. Everything avoiding the usage. So, I would be in support of something where we can use the funds for that even if the fire department or the police department can educate the youth on um how to avoid or use opioids. Um I had So, I'm going to kind of just backtrack a little bit because I I was a little unclear, Randy. I know you spoke about it at the last meeting. Th this was kind of put on because you're providing a report that you wanted to identify uses for.

Correct. I have a report due to the state in February. Um, [clears throat] which will show how much we've received and then I have to show how much we've spent, which is none, or and then if we have anything designated for the future for spending. So if we can come up with some ideas that are agreed to, I can add it to the report. Otherwise, it's going to show zeros on the expenditure side. Is that something they're are they is the state trying to encourage people to spend the money as quickly as Okay. Yeah. I I don't think they're going to come take it away, but it's just a matter of it would look good if we had something on there. Um but if it goes with zeros, it's it should not be a big deal this year.

Okay. Um, well, I I like uh [snorts] I [clears throat] mean I like all the ideas that are being put forward. There's nothing in here that's bad. Um, I think educa I I like the idea of education in youth and maybe even um maybe trying to do some research because I don't know I we haven't had I imagine any type of specific targeted research to say what's going on here what problems are, you know, do we not have data on? And I don't know where you would start with that, but it seems to me like doing something like that could be an excellent start to addressing any issues. Marggo, what what what would you suggest giving this organization? I mean,

have you thought give give me a dollar amount?

I mean, if you want me to throw a figure out there, just throw a dollar amount because I know they would be grateful for anything. I I did actually contact and I spoke with um the director over there and you know the just toured the facilities to see what it is that they do and the meetings that they host and things like that. I mean they they offer a a lot a whole slew of stuff that they do there. I mean they have yoga classes, they have everything. They they uh have um resume writing classes, things to you know enable those who are trying to fight addiction uh not necessarily just opioids but fighting addiction and [snorts] staying sober, living sober, trying to get back into the real world. they host the NA meetings which are, you know, critical for um so many individuals who are trying to fight addiction. Um so I just thought that that it's a great um it's a great organization that would utilize the funds specifically for those things. They do they do housing, they like I said, they do meetings, they do everything there. Um so

where are they located? Uh do you know where Randazzos is on Grashet? On this side of Grashet [clears throat] where Randazzos is it used to be Fox um portrait studio. Do you remember that? Oh yeah, that building is live right now. Huge building. Yes. Yes. Liveight is is housed there. And like I said, they do meetings and they do all kinds of great, you know, community outreach and things like that for, you know, addiction. So I I think they're a good great organization. I mean, if if you want me to throw a figure out there, again, they would take anything. I'm I'm just going to throw a figure $40,000 out there. I think they would be extremely grateful for any amount. not necessarily that large of an amount, but I'm just throwing a figure out there because I know it's local and you know, well,

I know residents in East Point who utilize the facility. What you explain what they do is really nice. There are there are there are people out there who have those problems and they have a place that's pretty close particular to Roseville Warren East Point Line. Do you have any idea how many people are taking advantage of it right now? Did she give you a number?

She didn't I didn't ask for numbers on that, but um you know I I do know that there are East Point residents who do utilize that facility. I'm aware of a couple of them actually. One member was homeless, family had given up and whatnot. So, you know, the fact that he's staying sober and attending meetings there and trying to get back into the real world, it's beneficial. It really truly is beneficial and life-changing for so many. And give me the name of it again. Live right li. And like I said, they're right on grass [ __ ] here. I could get the address if you give me a second in Roseville. Um, okay. Let me throw something out. Can I just No.

Yes. Um, we are not at a point that we have to spend the money today. Um, that's fine. We can I appreciate that. So, we I if it's worthwhile, we can reach out to LiveRight and see if they'd want to come uh present more information. Uh, we can also consider other opportunities for spending um because it is a sizable chunk of money and we would like to do some good with it. Yeah. So, and there's there's more coming in the future. Y uh we also the reporting will be after the first meeting in February. So, you know, if you want to have further discussion or or make a decision at that point, we can still do it. And it doesn't sound like we're committing funds. I mean, really, we're just reporting what we're intending to do with them. Correct.

Okay. Thank you. Over the years of my political life, one of the things I really did not like was to postpone something when we could probably deal with it that night, whether I was on a school board or whatever. So, I'm going to make a motion and I might not get support and uh it might pass. I would move that um we take the $346,77763 and give $40,000 to life live right

live live right and then the remaining would be divided evenly uh between the fire department and police department. Did we determine the use? Huh? Did um have we determined the use? Like what are we going to use it for? I don't understand the question. What are we going to use it for? What does that mean? Okay. So, there's many options whether it be training, educating the youth. No, that that would be up to the fire chief and police chief of where the money should be sent spent. I'm not going I'm not going to sit here and say they have to use all the money for this, this, and this.

Well, that's a part of the requirement. We have to define what they're using the funds for. No, I don't think we have to define it. Well, can I ask? There there's a list of what they can use it for and what they can't use it for. And Randy would tell them that. Well, is are they looking for us to uh earmark for uses or say this is what we're using? I mean, saying we're allocating it to a department. Is that what they're It wasn't that specific.

Okay. So, we probably will get away with allocating to police and fire for uses within the confines of the agreement. [clears throat] And if not, they'll send it back and we'll have another meeting.

So, [snorts] I have a quick question, too. So, let's just say I know the fire department, the fire chief's not here, but so the fire department decided that they were going to visit, say, the elementary schools and do some educational, you know, um, abstinence programs against drugs, kind of like a DARE type thing or whatever. I mean, I'm old, but that's the program I'm familiar with. Something along those lines, then that would be a way that they could utilize it with like say educating the youth or something along those lines. Okay. has got a second.

No. Um, so go ahead. Did you want to chime in? I'll second. Um, Mike, it looked like you had an idea. Will you was there something else that you were going to add like

I was thinking because I I do like the idea of education and um like I said maybe research but it's not like we have specific proposals in front of us. Um I was so I was thinking maybe uh 40k for live the remaining to be you know allocated to public safety to develop uh a research and education programs for youth or something and if they come with a another proposal I think was it dart the other thing you were talking about van QRT quick response team okay yeah

and there's also Um, obviously we have an SRO, you know, at least at this point until we review the contract because our contract will be up in July. Um, but we can also use some of that towards education in the schools, probably using our SRO, which may help cut some of those costs as well. So, I guess I I just wanted to have some sort of idea of like generally speaking the realm we were hoping to use the funds for.

And if you just call it public safety instead of splitting 50/50, you might find there's more opportunity in police than fire or fire than police or something like that. I mean, that's what I was thinking that because then they could kind of work out between them what what would be appropriate for which department uh to do. So, I guess I'll make a motion to Well, what wait, there's a motion on the floor. You can't make a motion when there's a motion on the floor. I'm going to make a motion to amend. You got what?

Motion to amend. So, I'm going to make a motion to amend that the remaining amount um uh be directed to to public safety to develop programs for research and education uh regarding the youth. And would that that still with the 40,000 going to live right the 40? Yeah. Leaving that alone and what where would you want the money to go? All of the remaining money other than 40,000 uh to public safety. So, and who's public safety? That would be police. People may not know. Police and fire. Well, isn't that what my main motion was? That to give it to police and fire and they can do with what they want to.

Well, I think you said the split of 50/50, but if you do public um safety, then it doesn't have to be 50/50 cuz well, public safety would be you said both agencies, police and fire. Is there both I'll support that. Anyone else? Okay. Yeah. I I just uh then we're not locked in that like they have like a set earmark 50%'s here, 50%'s there. They can sort of explore programs and sort of divvy it up. I was trying to be a little more like lenient by using that language, but the money would be split between the two between fire and the police.

I mean, I guess unless you guys fight about it, one of you takes it all. So, but what you're doing what what you're doing is saying yeah they can but you want them this is specific as what they have to do whether they needed something else where they they could buy it would be legal you want the the entire funds to go to what you just said education and training [clears throat]

yeah I think that's giving direction that try to explore this I mean if you I I don't think we're locked in if there's an opportunity or something that comes along Um, I'm not against exploring it, but I think right now we're just sort of labeling intentions for for the funding. Is there other comments? [clears throat] Excuse me. Well, all right.

I don't know. uh [clears throat] you're dividing the money up and maybe that's what they would say let's use half of what we just got to do what the mayor had suggested but what your your motion is now forcing them to spend what all of it to what you're saying or a portion of it or half of it what be more more specific what you're trying to Yes. I I don't think I'm being vague about that. The remaining amount of money, this is the uh kind of program we want you to look at for it to look at it.

Yeah. I mean, whether or not it's education or research or or or something like that, um it was an area that I wanted or I believe deserves some specific focus. Uh so, I'm throwing that out there to see if there was support from council. So, right now it's just an amendment and I guess we'll Well, the amendment is just as valid as the regular the motion is is. So, I just want to make sure that you're not handcuffing the fire chief and the police chief and saying they got to, you know, maybe they'll what what they're going to get whatever half of that is. Maybe they'll take

$50,000 and use it for what you're suggesting and the rest they'll use for what they think they need. Well, I I think uh if they wanted to go outside of that, they would have to bring it back to council and say, "Hey, we think we have a better idea for the funding." No, you're you're not hearing what I'm saying. If they took a portion of that money, they're get getting Did you divide it up yet what they're what they would get? It'll be 306. How much it would be? 3067 $36,77763. Okay. When you take away the $40,000 for live that's designated separately.

So you're you're suggesting you're not saying specifically how much money they have to spend on what you're suggesting. They might be able to they might be able to devise a program that would be $60,000. But then you said when I just said that they'd have to if they want to spend the rest of money on something else, they'd have to come back to us. Why would you say that because that's my motion? No, it's not your motion. Your motion. I supported your amendment to Yeah. Gee, that that's I I that's my motion to give direction and say, "Hey, go try to find these these kind of programs to

Chief. Do you do you understand the motion and the amendment?" I believe I do. I'm just not sure where to begin with researching. I mean, I'm not a researcher. I'm not I don't even know where to begin with that, but that's for us to look into. [laughter]

Well, if I may, I think it it sounds like I mean that we mentioned a couple programs like I know there was CARED of Southeastern Michigan that focused on uh prevention in the schools for youth and families. So, I think there's places that you can start where about asking people how do we implement certain things? But my understanding is what we're doing is trying to give basically direction for Mr. Blum to say, "Hey, this is what we're looking to do." And then once they say, "Yes, that's good. We approve that." Then I think there's a little more, I guess, flexibility that we have, but we're just we're just voicing what the intention is right now. It doesn't sound like from what Mr. Blum described that we're locked in or etched in that something's etched in sewn, but it's just to really give some direction as to what we're going to do with these funds. Am I [clears throat] am I correct?

Yes. Okay. So,

I understand the intent, mayor, but I just want to make sure that uh you're not handcuffing them to to use. And then when you made a remark about they would they would have to come back to the council with a different idea. They have I Is that part of your amendment? It's not, is it? That we were just talking to one another and you made that statement. I just want to make sure that's not part of the amendment that they would be forced to come back and say we want to do blah blah blah and then they have to get three votes from the council. Once we give them the money, I'll agree with what the research what they can do, but there are other things that they want to do. They shouldn't have to come back to the council to get permission.

Um I that's your position. I think you'll be against the amendment then. Well, I would like to go ahead. Then spell out your your amendment again specifically so whoever is writing it down will know exactly what you're talking about. All right. So my amendment was uh well first to leave the 40,000 earmarked for live rights

and that the remaining amount uh be left to public safety um for programs to explore uh research and uh education with the youth. So are there any other comments on that? [laughter] No. No, me. [sighs and gasps]

No. I I'm I just want the money to go there. But they'll they'll find something to do. And uh you want to get your toilets fixed and you have you have to come back to the council. You want to put a light bulb in, you'll the mayor says you have to come back to the council. But I don't think that's what those funds those funds are not used for maintenance. They're what? They're not specified for maintenance. That's not They're not specified for anything right now. Yes. I mean, we have a list. They gave us a list. It was I did. That's why I know what it's it can be used for. Okay. I'm I'm going to vote for it because rude. That was very rude. Most of it's going to go there anyway. That was very rude. That was very rude.

If we don't have any other more comments on on the motion, I just want to keep it on track. Uh, I'd like to call the uh question for the amendment first, please. Got it. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Curley, no. Council member Shadlick, no. Council member Scott, yes. Okay, so the main motions uh back on the floor with that uh amendment. Um, please call the role on that. Council member Curley, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Scott, yes. No.

All right. Thank you. Um, we moving on to item M, return of change policy. Never thought I'd have something this ridiculous on there, but we we do need a policy in place. We have uh run out of pennies and no bank can order any from the uh Federal Reserve anymore. um [clears throat] until we have a formal policy yet. My directive has been to give back more than is owed. Um but we have basically a round up round down option or we always go in the customer's favor. Um and until there's a national or state policy, we need to set one at the local level. So I'm not just giving money away at my own discretion.

If you'd like, I could come pay my next bill in all pennies. Uh that's the only way we're getting any. [laughter] And we are going to try to get all of our items to end in a zero or a five going forward. Um I I think that we should I think we should always just round up in the in the customer saver uh to the nearest 5 cents. But would anyone like to make a motion?

When you say in the customer service I sounds like something that that I was going to suggest. Um, so you run it. I guess my thought on it, mayor, is that uh whether it's one, two, three, or four cents, if it's a dollar three, a dollar one or a dollar two or dollar three or dollar four, the resident pays a dollar. There's no up or down. I mean, why if it's a$13 or a$14, why would we charge the president more money than what they owe? Is this for giving change back?

Two or three cents? This is for giving change back. If somebody pays in cash, so if we owe them a$11 in change, we'd give them a$15. It's we don't lower their bill. We give them more change than they're owed. So, [snorts] it's it's they still have to pay their bill. Yeah. Yeah, it's just how we give them the change back.

So most pay with a credit card, pay with a check. This is never an issue. It's only the cash payments um that involve change. So one or the round up, round down is if we owed them a penny or two pennies, we'd give them nothing. If [snorts] we owed them three or four cents, we'd give them a nickel. Kind of washes over time. Uh the other option is the customer's favor where they whether it's a penny or 4 cents, they'd always get a nickel back, but it has to do with the change, not the bill. I just wanted to clarify that.

I think I'm in favor of doing [clears throat] a round up, round down. Um I just see realize there's just a lot of businesses going with that policy. I think it's more favorable. Um so I would offer the round up round down instead of just rounding up. Yeah, that's that's actually kind of how I was leaning and just maybe because I'm more familiar with it just from other businesses doing it. And then I also read in here that uh I guess some other uh municipalities have adopted that practice or some something to that effect. So, um but I've seen it in places that you know just different stores or whatever where they do the round up round down type of thing. Yeah. So, I was kind of leaning that way, but I won't be argumentative one way or the other.

Do one of you want to make a motion? Motion to approve a policy for the return of change to cash paying customers whereby the finance department shall round down when the change due includes one or two cents and round up when the change due includes three or four cents. some sort. Councilwoman Padley got it. She beat me. She say the first. She beat me. All right. Um, any other comments? Please call the RO. Uh, Council Member Scott, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Baker, yes. Council member Curley,

yes. All right. Uh, payroll and bills. Oh, we did already had them in. Uh, y'all was out of order with my sheet. Hang on a minute. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I move that we pay the bills in the amount of 4,196,66.19. Support. Great. Any questions? Please call the RO. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Scott, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld.

Uh, yes. And we will go into um the second hearing of the public. The second hearing of the public is now open. Would anyone wish to be heard? Anyone wish to be heard? So, in going back to the rabbits, um, again, I would like a response before this meeting concludes. If I don't get a response, I guess I have no choice but to inform the media that the city is being nonresponsive because again, the statement was provided to the media that they would be updated and they have not been updated. This is nothing to overlook. You don't turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to animal neglect. As I mentioned in previous meetings, rapids cannot get wet. They are extremely fragile animals. It is absolutely appalling anyone keeps them outside. They're not wild rabbits. And what kind of life is that for a domestic rabbit to be kept outside in such horrible conditions? Would any of you want to spend your entire life living outside in a cramped cage or hutch? That's not a life for a rabbit. And I seriously doubt these so-called

owners provided any vet care. It takes no time for [clears throat] a rabbit to develop hypothermia or frostbite in getting wet. You cannot play games with a rabbit's life. There have been far too many who have not understood GI stasis. Figured, oh, let's see if Bunny feels better in the morning, only to wake up to a dead rabbit. So, I sincerely hope I don't have to call the media again, but if I have to, I will. I don't understand what is going on with this city. Please stop saying that you love and care about animals. Okay? If you do, put your money where your mouth is. Stop eating them. Stop wearing their skins, their fur, their feathers. Stop supporting any animal exploitation and stop allowing the churches to get away with violating our ordinances, our state laws, our federal laws. You had the opportunity. I briefly spoke about the fireworks, how dangerous it is.

30 seconds to the animals, to the environment, and you failed the animals again. other than Councilwoman Pashadwick. I hope I pronounced your name correctly. Thank you. You are a hero for your dog. This This is horrible that you guys care so little about the animals. This is not God's work trashing the planet and terrorizing animals. It's disgusting. And I just want to leave with one thing real quick. Let me just quickly shift gears. It's in honor of Renee Good. She That was an unlawful killing and it's tragic.

Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard? Hi. Seeing none, the second hand of the public is closed. We'll move into mayor and council reports. Um I'll start with the Councilwoman Scott. No report. Uh, Councilwoman Bashadlac, I'd like to thank everybody on the boards and commissions who volunteered and were reappointed andor appointed today. Um, thank you for your service to our community. I know it's not always easy to go to all those meetings, but we truly appreciate your help and assistance on those boards and commissions. We couldn't do it without you. Um, and that's all I have today. Thank you.

Hey, uh, Councilman Baker, thank you. We just um um I don't know if everybody knew, but uh we lost one of our business owners recently. Um Diane Sager of Clover's Collision passed away. So, condolences to her family uh during this difficult time. Um, so, um, to those that that knew them, um, just wanted to kind of let you guys know if you didn't, uh, I did get a chance to speak with her husband and, um, as of right now, he looks like he's holding up fairly well, but I know it's still a trying time. Uh, beyond that, I have nothing else.

Hey, Councilman Curley.

Well, first of all, thank you, Rob, for bringing that up. She was indeed a incredible person. Uh, you know, we every now and then, more now than um honor a group, either a person or an organization. And one thing that I'd like to honor tonight, and I'm sure the council and mayor would agree, uh, for all of our employees, we have a lot of employees. I don't know what the number is. It's well over a hundred. Um, but the work that they do, so I'm I'm making an official thank you for for all of us to thank our employees uh for what the work they do. Um, some of the employees, a lot of the employees you never see or we never see. You know, if you the job they do, I mean, take for instance, you get in line to go pay your water bill and when you walk up to that window, you take it for granted that that person's going to take your check or your cash and do everything to do and stamp stamp your receipt and that's it. Well, that's a job for them. And they they had to learn that and they have to be very careful every time somebody comes up to that window that they get it right. And so I mean I could just sit here for hours and go for how many employees we got. So God bless everybody that works for the city and that that includes the administration by the way. Everybody. Um, the other thing that I will say coming from me, coming from my heart that God bless all the people who live in Greenland, that they will stay free as they want to, that they won't suddenly have PT boats

coming to their shores with machine guns and whatever and saying that you are now you're now a United states person and whatever the hell that means. Uh so we got to make sure that doesn't happen. Call your representative, your senators that they make one way or another that they stop this crazy from a crazy person that uh that that country will stay free. That's it. Mayor

uh thank you. Um, also I I did also want to just uh recognize Diane. She was very active. If if you didn't know her name, you would recognize her. She was always at the chamber events. Uh volunteered with the Lions Club um and and just kind of was everywhere in the city when you went to things. And of course, big har worked with Harvey a lot on the gratit cruise uh since its inception. So um my condolences to to her family. Um the uh I'd like to say congratulations to the new officers that were installed for the Oddfellows. I had the privilege of going to their ceremony over the weekend. Had never been to one of those. Very interesting. I think if you ever get the opportunity, it's it's kind of a formal um event and it was just it wasn't like anything I'd ever seen. So congratulations to the officers uh who took their new positions on Saturday. Um, I'd like to say uh uh yesterday uh the MLK breakfast held by the Ministerial Alliance was great. Um, it's always a great event. I I enjoyed listening to the keynote speaker who was very fired up about education. Um, and hearing some essays from students that that had written them. I think um Jason's not here here tonight um uh our fire chief, but I heard him say after I think the last one was read uh I I don't even write that good. And it was like it was I think a freshman in high school, but it was just uh really nice to hear hear their words and and sort of what MLK means to them and how they see our world going forward. So um with that, that's all I have. I will entertain a motion to go into close session. Um,

oh yeah, that's fine. Um, I'm just slow rolling the motion to remember what the statute is to go into close session under 15.2681E. So move. Support. Please call the RO. Council member Baker. Yes. Council member Scott. Yes. Council member Curley. Yes. Mayor Kleinfeld. Yes. Council member Shadlick. Yes. Right. We will adjourn into close session at 8 8:46.

What time is it? I got it. [clears throat] Got everyone. All right. Uh, we are entering back into uh open session at 9:20 p.m. Uh, would anyone like to make a motion? I will move that we uh uh follow the recommendation of council regarding the uh pending litigation support. And please call the role. Sorry. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadlick, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Council member Scott, no. Council member Baker, no. Uh motion to adjourn. So move. Support. Please call the role.

Council member Baker, yes. Council member Curley, yes. Mayor Kleinfeld, yes. Council member Shadley, yes. Council member Scott, yes. Right. Meeting agenda at 9:21.