Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Um so we now have just one meeting a month. So this is a public hearing. Um we will ask to the applicants to present their case. Um any questions should be directed to the board. Then if there's any public participation, which looks pretty limited tonight, we will ask if there's anything in favor and anything against, and the board will um confer and determine if we can make a decision this evening with having just the one meeting a month. So the first item on our agenda though is the review and approval of the planning commission meeting minutes from January. Is there any comments or

I'll make a motion to approve. Okay. Did you catch the All right, we have a motion and a second to approve the planning commission meeting minutes from January 21st. Any discussion? All those in favor? I oppose. All right. Okay. And then we have our first reszone, the Carlson family. Um, and I believe

Yeah. Do you want to go from there or there? Good evening, Attorney Ron English, W2351 New Deal Avenue, East Troy, Wisconsin. I'm here for all three items or three reszone. So that's 2, three, and four on your agenda. But starting with the Carlson property, um this property is located on West Bay Road. It's a private road just off of Stringer's Bridge. Single family residence on here. Um, all three of these applicants are essentially seeking just to reszone to be commensurate and match their current use. Um, this property has a is residential in nature. As you can see, the house and a garage currently zone C4. So, we are just looking to change the zoning to R1 to be consistent with use and historical practice. Happy to answer any questions. One thing I noticed, I drove past and these houses they like have a house right next to them. Is the house right next to them already zoned R1 or are they going to go through this in the future or they're not?

They will go they will have to go through in the future. So I actually used to own one of the adjoining properties W2280 West Bay Road that was reszoned or when I did that along with another neighbor on that road. But all this entire road is zoned was originally zone C4. So the only way that it can happen is either each property owner has to do it individually or the town could reszone everything properly, but there's an expense to that. So we're left to do it on oneoff opportunities here. So that's if you look on GIS, there's I think two or three properties on West Bay Road that are one right now. So this would just get this Carlson property fall in line with that. Then there'll still be some zoned at C4 after this because they haven't gone through this process.

Correct. Yeah, they Yeah. Originally it was all C4. Okay. What what about any tax implications with this particular change?

I'm not aware of any. I mean I think the tax assessor bases is on use not necessarily on zoning. Uh these properties are rather small in square footage side. So they're limited to what they could do in terms of any additional building or subdividing. So as far as I know I don't think that there's any tax implications. But I have not looked into that nor am I a tax person. I notice on GIS that that 15 foot road right away I think it's stated as on the GIS appears to be shifted further north on the GIS. If you could zoom in there um where do you want me almost to the point where if you could just zoom in on the property there.

Which one is the property for this one? Uh, just scroll up from where you're at and it should zoom right into where we need. W2290 is the property. Yeah, right there. Click there. Yeah, zoom in. Got it. So, you can see that rightway actually comes up and meets that shore of Lake Bula the way it's shown here. Here. You're just talking about the red line. Okay. So, right here, this meets the the water right here. Oh, yeah. I mean,

you see that? So, it appears to be shifted in the survey to be like seven feet, six or seven feet away from the water. I'm just was wondering if you had an explanation for that. Surveyor said anything about that or surveyor did not say anything about that. Good question. I know GIS on the website says it's not accurate, right? So, and it appears to be inaccurate on here. I mean, everything needs to be shifted. It it appears to be because the property owner right there to the south, their driveway is off of their property. accuracy, but um

if I may, that's an inaccuracy in GIS cuz if you look at my property down here for the meat or the expiration shop, you'll see that is rampant down there with errors like this. Unless you're seeing something on his survey that that shift is there, you know that this is this is just an informative use only for the GIS. It's not to be used for survey work or anything official like that. Yeah. I mean, this is just for you to look it up and get a general idea of what's up. For using it for anything official is not not good.

Yeah. And I can't I mean, just looking at it, I see the line you're talking about. It also ends, but the road continues. So, I'm not sure what that line even represents to be honest with you. Question. Oh, good question. And the wetland delineation has been updated on all three properties. Correct. Hard to tell on some of the maps. Yeah. So, for all three properties, uh, sewer pack did the wetland delineation that was required by the county. And I should have said that from the get- go. Surveys were done and the county has initials signed off on all three of these applicants. Okay.

Was that like May 25? Carlson was done first and the other two were done more recently. Okay. So I don't have that date off the top of my head but it was within the time zones for approval. Yeah. So the new zoning would start like at the wetland delineation. That's my understanding. Correct. Yeah. They don't have an interest in seeking to reszone any wetland

and there's no companion conditional use with this application. So just a reason. Any questions on the first one? Any discussion? Any public comments? four organs for it. I am paid to be for it.

All right. We make a motion that we approve the reszone request for um PET1800008B. Any discussion? Okay. If not, all those in favor I oppose. Okay. With that, we will move on to the McNab region bridge road. Similar.

Yes. So, um, similar situation here. Now, this is the property that is to the south of West Bay Road. Um, and that's where it looks longer on your, um, survey in front of you. It's still under the C45 acre aotment. Um, this is a residential property with a house and garage as you see pictured towards the believe that be the south east side of the survey depending on how you have it turned. Um, they're seeking to reszone the non-wetland part. So, it's a long private drive down to the house and driveway um as depicted there on the survey. Same situation. Sewer pack did do the delineation survey was done. county has initial approval for this um in terms of staff.

Well, they're just essentially updating making it compliant to what's already on the books now. So, yeah, I wish there was a cheaper option, but it's been rather expensive. But yeah, simply it's simply just trying to conform to current and you know, recent historical use. Any other questions? This one seems to have a lot more wet land area. Yeah. So, looking from west to east that private drive, for lack of a better term, you know, it's marsh land, boggy area. Yeah.

So, that's what's depicted as wetland. Um, there is a covert near the Carlson property we just looked at or right near there that I think connects some of it. So I think some of like uh flows into it or vice versa.

I'll make a motion to approve the reszone of the McNat property at or um sorry parcel number PP180000009. Second. All right, a motion and a second. Any further discussion? No. All those in favor? I oppose. And finally, the Mc Victor family. Um, back on West Bay Road. Yes, back on West Bay Road. This is the last property at the end of West Bay Road. There's just a little um numerical issue on the survey. So you see two existing houses. Mhm.

They are not the same property. The property to the west with the garage shown that is separate property. That's W2250. Uh we're talking about W2246. Um so this is the same situation. Um survey sewer practed the wetland delineation. County initial signed off on this in terms of approval from staff. just simply looking to reszone for historical use. And so there's actually two properties shown on this survey, two separate.

Yeah, the surveyor for some reason showed the neighboring property. If you go to GIS, you can see that there's a separate property, separate tax. It's this one, right? Uh no, down here. It's this one. Sorry. Do you see W225?

Might be. I thought they were separate parcels and JS. Maybe it is one giant parcel.

I dress. West Bay Road. Yeah, I saw that. I'm not quite sure.

Okay.

So, apparently they got permits for the multiple structures. Yeah. On one property. On one parcel. Yeah,

a lot of this stuff is very historical in terms of I think predates the 70s 80s. So if they're just trying to get in informing what's already needed, this is like almost a no-brainer to improve. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to over complicate. I think one of the commissioners mentioned he drove down the road. You kind of see it's what's there is there. There's not really too much you can do with uh the lake on one side. The setbacks required by the county from the high water mark. So, it's really just a reszone, right? In case something were to happen down the road, you'd already have that part of the process done. You would need to wait to rebuild.

Yeah. I think that's the key point, right? If something were to happen, they can't rebuild before. Yeah, it was just housekeeping. That's why I did it previously at the property. I used to being proactive. Any further questions or discussions? Any public comments? Sure. I'll make a motion to approve the reszone of parcel pet 180013. A second a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor?

Thank you very much. Thank you, M. Next on the agenda is the Ricky Moore Sports Reszoning the property from substandard A1 to B. Hi, I'm Richovski. So that's exactly what we're doing. Um we have the RV travel trailer business across the street currently. We're looking to literally move across the street uh somewhat kitty corner. Um so been doing a great job selling the property and getting it ready for us and we're at that point we're ready to move forward. Okay.

No real change in business from what we're doing at all right now. Um it's just going to create a much that infrastructure there will just create a much more efficient business for us. And the attachments is basically um communication you've had with county. It doesn't give us a lot of detail. Yeah, that's correct. So they they brought up a few points. Um nothing in fact we have it all over here, but um nothing that wasn't concerning. Darren just wanted to see some some things addressed and um they were all really non issues. pretty pretty simple and straightforward

things like parking and green space and Yeah, that's exactly it. Because of the size of our building, um it required us to have additional parking even though this the scope of our business requires very little parking, but we understand we have to have it. So, so it looks like some of it you have marked as potential parking if needed.

Yeah, that that's exactly it. So we we have a lot of parking for our inventory, you know, travel trailers. Um that's essential for us. Um and we have some employee parking. We only have a staff of seven and only five of which are actually at that facility to load. Um so we really only need five parking spots plus a few for customers and we work off of a appointment only um situation. So we generally only have one or two extra cars in the lot. But apparently we're going to have 33 parking spots now. So it is what it is. So luckily we have the real estate there to do it. Um that won't be an issue. It just won't be used.

How much stock do you keep? So roughly between 40 and 70 travel trailers. Wow. Um and that parking layout on there is perfect. We can actually uh fit even a few more on there. So yeah, it's it's really an ideal situation for us. We uh we didn't plan on this whatsoever. Um but I was looking at it every day when driving by and Carl actually had a a fire already for it and I was kind of bummed out about it that fell through and it kind of just worked out. So and it it's kind of an ideal situation for us. the efficiency of having this structure is just going to be great for not only us but our you know our community our close we have all the campsites directly next but

and currently we don't service anything in winter time because we just don't have the infrastructure to do so now we'll have the option to do so you say your current business is right across the street correct it wasn't long ago that that was two yeah just two years ago we moved there that's why I was completely comfortable not moving And this was not planned whatsoever.

And it looks like a nice on the front of the building. Yeah. I mean, that's super important to me. I don't even I don't know if you have driven by where we've already done quite a bit to our current one. And I'm just That's important to our customers. That's it. Having something that looks nice. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sure you guys have that. I didn't want it to look like a factory when you're driving by. I'm going to have a little bit of rustic look to it, you know, as much as I can with the uh amount of square footage I'm allowed. We'll try to get some some wood in there and, you know, have we sell campers, so we sell recreation. We want to

have that feel when you pull up there. I feel like it blends in with our Tom Curry.

And there is a new map included that Warren had called about this afternoon. Correct. What's that? There's the new map with a couple changes on the survey map that he included. So, that's on the one that's on the board. Yeah, I believe the only changes were they were very subtle. Yeah, it was um something about maybe was it the driveway width? um some we had to change the culver size. It was yeah I don't know if it was anything that really had anything to do with tonight but getting it done in time so we and that way we can say approved as presented because they're presenting this here. Okay. Is this being farmed right? This is not this is um was it ever farmed? I'm not sure.

This was farmed years ago but I mean our nickname for the property was the rocket garden. So that can tell you, you know, if we had a very high, you know, heat summer, it'd burn the corn right off. You know, we're lucky if that ever saw 60 to 80 bushel per acre. So I mean, basically it was worthless land. So going all the way back in the 50s, you know, 40s and 50s, this was this was one of the man brothers first uh mine sites in Worth County. M.

So this is historically was a mine. They were supposed to re restore it cuz they used it further when 43 was put through. They used it as a borrow and fill site. And after 43 was finished, it was supposed to be uh top soil and you know leveled out and cleaned up. Well, they never did. So they dusted top soil over the top of it. And that was the condition they left it in. And of course, you know, an inch top soil does not grow good. So, uh, after my father's pass, I bought the property so as to do something with it. My original intention was to combine it with the neighbor's property. We had an agreement for purchase on that. That fell through. So, uh, you know, I'm sitting there with, you know, 5 acres. It's not big enough for a new excavation shop for us. we're out growing our spot. So, I'm like, "Well, I'm talking with Rick. I had it sold." Rick says, "Well, I'll take it." He's been a great neighbor next door. It's a nice quiet little business. Nobody bothering anybody, you know. So, I'm like, "Hey, if you want it, and I mean, I'm looking at it from the standpoint of, you know, he's going to build a beautiful building. Rick decides to move on down the road. It's something that look nice. It will easily lend itself to resale." and you know it fits within the uses of what you know the town wants for highway es for our business corridor. So you know to me you know I think it's going to be a beautiful addition to our little neighborhood. So

I just have a a thought and I don't know if it's a concern or not but that's kind of like a an open road and will traffic hindrances be a problem or people pulling out of your Yeah, I don't foresee I don't think it's any different than you know what we have currently. Um we're literally just street corner from there. We don't foresee um having any more traffic. We're just moving across the street. So, yeah, there's along sideways there, so there should be no traffic issues whatsoever. Okay. Yeah. No curves, no hills. So, yeah, I feel like I don't see any concern with that. Okay. Because I know your place currently is off set back further than what this is going to be. So,

yeah, it is the our our business is set off a little bit further, but I mean still pulling out into there is pulling out on the ES every day. Any other questions from the Any questions? Any comments? Answer a motion. I will make a motion to approve the reszone for parcel number PBT36003

and conditional use including the conditional use in that too or just the conditional use as well as conditional use application. Thank you. Second. Oh, I think we're second.

I think Jen's already got a mark. I got it. Yeah, somebody's name. All those in favor? Opposed? Thank you very much. And we'll get these drawings back to you as well.

Okay. Um, any other business or public comments this evening? If not, I'll entertain a motion to if I may, as long as we've got this confirmed. There's one other item that's not to do Rick. This is on my side. Okay. Uh, we originally bought this parcel. Okay. And so when I this was our farm parcel for Sawyers and I bought two pieces from the deal. Is it on the screen now, Carl? I'm just going to bring it up so that way the board's familiar. But look on the screen. Is that what you're looking for on the TV? Okay. Is that

So what it is is on the highway ES side of the property. I bought two 1 and a2 acre parcels from the DOT. So this lot currently is made up of three separate individual parcels. Might be better if you go to the CSM if you can find that. Yeah, there you go.

There you go. You can see the three lines on there in the middle of the property. So the the right side is the original parcel and then I bought the triangle parcel and then I bought the long rectangle parcel from the DOT. I mean it we have the CSC CSM done. It sits here as we see it. Uh what I'm looking to do is obviously you know get the CSM recorded but it has to come in front of the county you guys and the village. I spoke with the county about 2 months ago and they have declined to review this for CSM because in essence we are not taking two separate parcels and changing or doing anything altering any adjoining properties next to it. what we were doing is just using a CSM to create one parcel and clean up the description. So, they've decided to decline review and they said as long as we get the same, you know, as long as the town and village agrees with that ruling, then I can go ahead and just record it without having it reviewed. So, I'm going to actually send uh an application next week to Jenny and then go in front of the plan commission, you know, and bring it officially. But that's what's going on. When you see that, if you wonder, there's a lot of order. I've been a little behind in my office. So,

we'll see you next month. We'll see you next month. Yep. See you guys. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. No, we have a motion to observe. Okay. Second. Second. Okay. All those in favor? All right. Post. Thank you for coming.