City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay, we're going to go ahead and get started and hope the mayor shows up really soon.

So we're going to start with a presentation from members of the Salt Lake County Council on county budget services and key priorities. So thank you for coming and we look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you so much for having us. Do you want us over here? Is that good? Yeah. So my name is Suzanne Pearson. I'm one of the ATLARS members of the Salt Lake County Council. And I'm also a very proud Draper resident. So thank you so much for having us. Thank you, Senator Johnson, for introducing us.

I'm here with Council Member Theodore. Yes, I'm Dee Theodore. I represent this area from the county. I actually live in San Luis, so just your neighboring city.

And then we have Kara Trevino. She's one of our council staff and our government relations liaison.

So we just wanted to take, how much time do we have left? We were thinking 10 to 15.

So last year we were meeting with some of our legislators and it became really clear that there's a lot of confusion about what the county does and so we were hoping to just reach out to our shared municipal elected officials and staff just to let you know what our core priorities are and where we can collaborate and overlap and serve our shared constituents better. So the history of Salt Lake County, the first incorporation was in 1850 with Salt Lake City. There's been a wave of incorporation since Draper was one of the earlier waves in 1978. There were more incorporations in the 90s, and then we've had quite a few recently with several townships becoming towns. And then with the passage of HB 330, any island, most of them are sandy, must either annex or incorporate by July of 2027. So that raises the question of, well, in a valley that's wall-to-wall cities, does the county play a role? And if so, what? And we would argue a very much yes. We have, we've been focusing on our regional role, especially as there's been more municipal incorporations over the years. And the statutory duties that the legislature lays out are different for cities and counties. And like you, we are also political subdivisions of the state. And these are some of the things that we do for our regional services in our role. Our number one priority, and it's bipartisan, is public safety. We are responsible for the sheriff's operations, law enforcement, operations of the jail, our district attorney and prosecutions, and then also indigent defense with our legal defense attorneys that we contract with to provide that constitutional right to an attorney and defending yourself. We also are responsible by statute for general elections. Our county clerk, Lanny Chapman, also contracts with every city in the county to do local elections as well. And she sets the bar high. She is the gold standard, in my opinion, of free and fair elections and is so great to answer questions. If any of your constituents have questions, she's phenomenal at answering them. We also have a statutory duty for the health department. I serve as the council representative on the board of health. We are responsible for general public health. We do things like restaurant inspections to make sure people aren't getting sick when they go out. If there's an issue with a nursing home, We also have statutory duties both federal and state for adult and aging services there's a federal requirement that counties provide meals on wheels aging nutrition. And this is a huge problem in our country, but we actually have the highest per capita, according to the CDC, rate of deaths by food insecurity for seniors in our county. And it's not something we wanna be number one on, but our Meals on Wheels is so important. We provide over 2,000 meals a day in our senior centers and also delivering to folks that are at risk of hunger in our county.

Suzanne, can I ask, why is that so high? Have we just not identified The number of seniors.

Yeah, the CDC study didn't elaborate on the why. but we are the highest in the country per capita on senior citizens dying from food insecurity. I'll send you the study, but it's just, they did not dig into why, but it's like, it is not something that we want to be number one in, and we take this very seriously. Our senior centers, in addition to providing that nutrition support, provide very needed social engagement, that social connection in an era of increased loneliness and death from despair and loneliness is is a thing that's really important to us. We also are responsible for behavioral health. In a lot of states, the state is the behavioral health authority. In our state, counties have the mandate for being the behavioral health authority. And what that means is folks that are on Medicaid, lower income, we provide those mental and behavioral health services for people in mental health crisis requiring substance use treatment. And this is a pitch for, we recently opened the Crisis Care Center over in South Salt Lake. It's right by the Metro Jail. It is an incredible resource for anyone in the county experiencing a mental health crisis. Please help us get the word out about it. And a pitch to our law enforcement friends, the turnaround time for folks in law enforcement dropping off someone who's in crisis at our Crisis Care Center is four minutes, and it gets you back to your community doing the work that you actually need to be doing. And it helps those people get the mental health treatment that they need rather than sometimes languishing in the jail, which isn't helping them get the care and medical care that they need. So we're also involved with arts and culture. We have a Hall. We have Capitol Theater. We co-own and operate Eccles Theater with Salt Lake City. And our arts and culture is actually paid for by grants and also tourism dollars. Which brings me to the next item of conventions and tourism. We are in the tourism business. Salt Lake County has a very vibrant tourism industry. We also have a vibrant convention center downtown and also at our Mountain America Expo Center. There's some big changes happening with the salt palace, you may have heard. But those tourism dollars are really important to our economy. Our economists estimate that the tourism and convention brings substantial sales tax and reduces the average household tax burden by about $1,900 per household. Those folks come here, they ski, they go to the convention, and then they leave and we don't have to pay to educate their kids and we get to keep their tax dollars.

So I'm agreeing.

Those tax dollars, those tourism tax dollars, also help fund our parks and recreation. Our regional parks, we are very, very proud of them. deeply care about them. We have a Draper rec center here. Those things are paid for with our tourism dollars. It also helps fund our My County Rec Pass, which allows any kiddo that's a county resident, 18 or younger, to have access to a free rec center pass, which also gives you access to ice sheets, pools, and climbing walls that are county-owned. We're really proud of that. Anything we can do to help kids put the phones down, connect in person, and improve their mental and physical health is something we're really, really supportive of. And I'm very grateful to Mayor Jenny Wilson's leadership for helping spearhead that. We have nationally award-winning library services as well. Our library is paid for entirely through a completely separate line item in property taxes. And that's because when our library system was established, the city of Salt Lake and Murray already had a library system. So to keep it completely fair and not double tax anybody, we have a separate line item in the property tax that funds our libraries. And that is 100% funds libraries. Libraries get no money from our general funds. And then we also have the obligation and sometimes take the arrows and spears from constituents in being responsible for property tax administration. We collect property taxes for cities, for school districts, any other entity that collects taxes, and then we distribute it back to them. And that is one of our statutory duties. So sometimes people are like, well, with wall-to-wall cities, do we really even need you? But it wouldn't make sense for us to have multiple jails, multiple health departments, and multiple elections. This regional role that we play helps us be more efficient with tax dollars and really provide the best possible service for the lowest cost.

I'm going to turn it over to Councilmember Gator. So I'll just talk about our former governor, which is similar to yours, basically, Mayor and Council Forum. We do have three at-large council members. So that's Lori C. Bannon and Natalie. And then I'm your district rep. So we have six districts throughout Salt Lake County. and that's our council and then we do have independent elected so um these are statutorily required um positions that we have we have our assessor um chris davros our district attorney brad park who's our surveyor our auditor is chris harding michelle fox is our reporter um the treasurer is sheila And then our Clerk Leonie Chapman, Sheriff Rosie Rivera, and then we do have a Justice Court as well. But as you know, the unincorporated areas are shrinking, and so we are actually phasing out our Justice Court. Shawna Robertson is the Justice Court judge there, and this will dissolve next year.

So one thing we wanted to just touch on, it comes up every general election year, is people think that our budget has just ballooned out of control. And it's actually not true. A few years ago, the state auditor required us to list any pass-through tax dollars that we collect but don't touch, don't impact in any way. pass on to things like UTA or onto you folks in the form of fifth or fourth quarter transportation taxes, they required that we list that in our budget. And so it looks like our budget got bigger, but we actually have no discretion over any of that. We literally pass it through. $455 million of that is passed through to UTA and the rest is to other entities, fourth quarter transportation, fifth, fifth, and so forth. so wanted to talk a little bit about the different buckets of money that we have jurisdiction over the central one is general fund that's the one that as council members we have the most discretion over it's based on property taxes and sales taxes and that's where we fund our core government functions that we talked about the elections criminal justice public safety and so forth it's the most flexible and it's where we have the most control for cuts or so forth hello councilman We also have special revenue buckets in the form of those tourism taxes, track, TRT, so forth, the library fund, which is very specific. These are highly restricted uses and can only be used for certain things. And then we have our enterprise funds. And those are things that fund, that's much like a business. These are funded completely separately and self-funded based on fees. Our golf courses, our landfill. Hello, Mayor. Good to see you.

Yes, sir.

Come join us.

And then our golf courses, landfill, public works are all enterprise funds and funded. Those are funded. purely based on fees. So again, as I mentioned, nearly 75% of our general fund goes to public safety, DA, indigent defense, corrections, and our sheriff. I like to highlight that it costs us $120 million a year just to operate our jail. And that is with still a lot of needs in that jail. Preaching to the choir, but Utah law, when it comes to property taxes, truth in taxation, is very, very confusing. But it also means that even though home values go up or inflation increases in the economy, the amount of money you as a city and me as a county get is exactly the same unless we go through truth in taxation to increase our rates. And it's a very, very confusing thing. But we actually have... Our rate has actually gone down a couple times in the last several, several, several years that we've gone through a tax increase. And again, I'm preaching to the choir, but hopefully we can help our residents understand that this challenge, that even though inflation is real and we don't collect a penny more, we still want to pay our folks a living wage. We still want to buy food for our seniors, and those costs are all going up every year with inflation. This is just an example of the property taxes and what goes to the county. That's the main property tax. And then there's a county assessment for collecting everybody else's taxes and distributing to them. And then there's one that's not highlighted. It's the Salt Lake County Library one. But that is a separate one. So again, you guys know truth in taxation. So we take our fiscal responsibility very seriously as a county council. We're very proud of being one of only 42 counties in the country to have a triple A bond rating. And it's a bipartisan priority to be fiscally responsible and prudent. And we scrutinize our budget every year and do everything we can to increase efficiencies and find how we can save and stretch taxpayer dollars. I'm just gonna turn it over to Dee.

So I'm sure you've heard of our jail. Hopefully you haven't been there. But we haven't had an expansion on our jail or added new beds since 2001. So it's been a long time coming. And so we did open some beds at Oxbow Jail, which I don't know if you know, but we do have two jails. There's one in Oxbow that's down the street from the main jail. holds a much lesser population, like 350-ish. And the main ABC adult detention center is about 2,000. And that's always fluctuating in numbers, but it is always near capacity. Yeah, so we are also, the jail has become kind of the mental health landing spot for people that we're bringing in. And so we're seeing more enforcement in Salt Lake. And so people are coming in more. They're enforcing a lot. And a lot of these people are homeless, have mental health issues. And so it's definitely taken up space in our jail. And then so we are at capacity. We also have a cool feature, which is a gel dashboard, which you guys can access any time. It kind of gives you information on the capacity of our gel and the demographics of who's in there. And so it's quite interesting if you're ever bored and want to know. But we are planning to add more beds. and expand our current jail. And like I said, the Salt Lake City, that's where a lot of our people do come from for jail. But right now, we did try and pass a jail bond two years ago. And it barely failed. But there was some interest in doing it. We thought it was going to pass. And so in the meantime, we've been recalculating and seeing where we need to land to get to where we need to be, because we know we have to expand the gel. And so it's been too long, and we're kicking the can. Things are getting more expensive. So we are looking right now to see if we can bypass that system and maybe do at least revenue bonds, which we're discovering could be the same cost So that's Costco Increase so we're looking into that so it's coming. We're still talking, but we're getting there so And then yeah, so our goals here is we're just using oxbow to the minimal We've been busting as little as possible in that one until we get the other one built the goal was to phase that one out once the ABC is built out We want to add new beds and this is all about public safety and making sure that people are being held accountable when they commit crimes in the community and so that's what this is for. We also want to address a very important component of this and this is the mental health and this is something that we are working on right now in Salt Lake County and we're very invested in this because we realize a lot of these people that do come through our system do have mental health issues and jail is not the best solution for them and so this is something that we are currently working on and I think it will Once we've got it all figured out. But yeah, so that's pretty much it. And we are doing, you know, we have, what was it called? The Delaware Entry Program. And so people are always offered services when they're leaving. We're looking to add to that and just give them more options before they leave and make sure they have places lined up where they can go and all the services that they need. So we're really trying to address it. We don't want people coming back and having this as their landing spot. And that does happen where we have to see people come back. It becomes a revolving door, and that's what we're trying to mitigate.

Would you need to get that revenue bond in place in order to create that step down center?

So it would have been a geo bond, and we would need to have already started that process this year if we were going to go that route. So we've been advised that at least revenue bond will work for us, and it's just the same price. And so we're leaning into that, but we've still got some work to do before we move forward. But we put aside $100 million when we had the ARPA funding, exclusively for this project. And so we've been hanging onto that. And so we're waiting. And I think we're going to be using that money to hire an architect to move forward. We just really have to move forward. And so it's just been too long. And the longer it goes, we just kick the can. We don't want to do that.

Still a few years away, though, isn't it?

Yeah, it will still be. But I mean, as soon as you execute this and get going, it's going. So that's the main thing. If we wait to go back to the voters, it's going to take even longer. It really will.

So we're very grateful for your time and service. And we're hoping this is the beginning of more conversations. And please reach out to us if there's is that we could better understand or do better to serve you. And thank you for your time.

Can you speak to the bill that was run last year in the legislature to split the county?

Oh, sure. So this has long been kind of chatter amongst political folks. But my personal opinion is, as someone that cares about saving and stretching taxpayer dollars, If you split the county and you build two jails, well, who's gonna want the jail? I would be very interested to know which city would sign up for that. And then two health departments, duplicating everything just cost taxpayers so much more. And Representative Tusher did work with the county to get several of the more concerning aspects of that original draft out. In the end, the county formal position was neutral. My personal position is it's just gonna dramatically increase everyone's taxes. And we are committed to being good partners and serving our shared constituents. And that's one of the reasons we're coming to all our cities to make sure that that back and forth is there so that we can serve your needs and that we're aware of what your needs are.

I mean, it could come back. That bill's come back. It's been filed. That bill's come back. Oh, really? Doesn't mean they're good numbers.

No.

But they always- But yeah, just the cost to all of our residents would be- What's their reason, really, for driving that? Well, I- There's been a couple articles. Yeah. I mean, when I've reached out to folks in the various cities, they're like, this is going to come up for months, because they understand. like the cost to their taxpayers, I would just invite you to .

I'm surprised the county took a neutral position on it.

Well, the end version was technically neutral. I think if you asked any of the council members, it would be an array of questions. We appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks so much. Before you go into close, I've got a template to go into close so that we use the language.

This has been suggested by

the UMAA meeting that we had today just because there's been some lawsuits against some cities for closed meetings not following the process correctly so see this is a test run see how you like it but whoever's going to make the motion needs to start out first and then hand it to Troy so all right council members so we need a reason we need to go into a closed session and the stated reason is to discuss litigation that the city is involved in

I make a motion to temporarily recess the council meeting to go into a closed meeting for the following purposes

strategy sessions to discuss the pending or recently in that litigation and strategy sessions to discuss the purchase exchange or lease of real property or to discuss a proposed development agreement projected proposal or finance proposal related to the development of land owned by the city

I'll second.

A motion by Mr. Green, second by Fred. All right. Mr. Green, how do you vote?

Yes.

Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Dahl? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. That puts us in closed session unanimously, five votes to zero.

What are we doing?

David? You ready? I can go. It should be pulled up already. Oh, should it be turned to all reps?

Sorry.

Oh, it's good. all right i know we'll be short on time so i'll just run through these quick just to give you a review of what to expect for the entertainment portion on the main stage of draper days so we'll start with you know we've got two days and just a reminder i know you know the This year is going to be different than ever. We've moved the main stage over to the west of the field where we used to launch the fireworks. So the stage will be over there. We'll have a lot more room, which means all the activities and stuff are going to be on the other side of the hill, on the east side. So it's going to be a great setup. So on the stage, like we've had the last few years, we'll have our Corner Canyon High School winners from their Battle of the Bands this year. These four girls, they are awesome. This is a picture I took up at the Amphitheater for Draper Jam. So they'll be performing very first. Right after the mayor welcomes everybody on Friday.

July, right?

Yes.

We're not tracking here, right?

That'll be July 17th. That's Billy Bob. I did a little Billy Bob. All right. All right.

Then we'll have the two Draper Idol winners. Right after, remember Sadie Dahl, she got quite a name last year being on The Boys, that Draper residence. She's going to come sing before our headliner. And then the Groove Merchants are going to put on a great show. That's who we hired last year. And then we have the new Lightning Storms with the rain and everything. So we invited them back. They're supposed to be the best party band in Utah. But they'll be somewhere in South Anderson. you know jenny jordan party crash there's that type of band and then we'll end with our drone show we've now got that under contract they're going to do the logo like that for us they are yeah it probably won't be this good because once i tried we didn't have that many drones but we will have a great drone show I threw this in. I don't know if you want to see it. I can just skip over it. I got the date right there. The opening band will be Jean Murray Osmond. That's Dominie's niece. She has a pretty good They had a good following, so glad to have them come. As you know, we've got the Alabama tribute band, Roll On, coming out of the Spokane, Washington area. Supposed to be the best tribute band. Those dudes look like them. Oh yeah, they do. That's their main heritage. And then we've got Fireworks. If you look here, their goal is like, we're a tribute band. We're not inserting our own talents. We're going to do our talents to look look like Alabama, that sound like Alabama. So if you know 80s Alabama, early 90s, that's what they want to look like and sound like. So it's really pretty cool. And we spent half of what we normally want at National Headliner. So if you get that question, say we say someone's going to cheer. That helps pay for the video board. That helps pay for the video board at the rodeo. It'll pay 100% of that video board. There we go. So that's the entertainment section. Again, it'll be on the west side. If you're talking with residents or neighbors or anybody, this will review. I know we've got to hurry, but any questions on the entertainment? Thank you. Okay.

Is David pulled up too?

Should be. He's going to sit right back to me.

Yes, please. Wait, David, did you hear that then?

We got the video board covered for the rodeo? I want to make sure you check it off.

Check it off. OK, as Rhett just told us, the entire layout for Draperies this year is different. Spent a lot of time redesigning it. We've gone over the layout prior to this meeting, so I'll hit a few of the highlights that are different this year than in prior years, other than the layout. One thing with the layout I'll bring your attention to is the position of the food vendors. If you notice, these food vendors are ringing the area where the audience will be seated on Friday and Saturday nights. So the food vendors are not located basketball courts, but they're by the main audience seating area.

That's a good idea. I bet they sell more that way.

We certainly hope so. Yeah. Councilmember, they're expecting a solar week. We've got a lot of great feather banners, other signage that we'll put up, but we hope with them interacting directly with the audience, it will be a winner. This layout is incredible for the opportunity it gives us to increase our audience size. So we now have the capacity to have much larger audiences. We hope that this year our entertainment acts will draw them in. So that's the layout of the food vendors, different than prior years. Police department, fire department, event headquarters near the main stage as in past years. The east side of the park is where the Family activities are located. This year, one difference is, and I think we've spoken about this, this year we have three stunt shows, extreme dog stunt shows, the fine aces, pig races, and the extreme Canadian lumberjacks. These are Canadian lumberjacks. True Canadian? True Canadians. Nice job. The best. The best lumberjacks. All right. with the three stunt shows we're excited for that we think that will have a broad appeal not just to children and families but to adults all types of people we staggered these show times to allow people to see all of them and try to avoid overlap so the three stunt shows are a little bit different this year as well we've got the salty siren that's different it's a mermaid experience you can have your photo kind of taken with a small window in the pool next to that's a pirate ship that's a new feature this year the other um the other activities and interactives are very similar to prior years one difference is the slides This year, we have an extremely large slide, 42 feet tall, double the size of what we've had in past years. 42 feet tall, very exciting. You should come down and ride it.

I'm sure Pat's excited about that. Yes. Kelly's going to ride the slide.

I'll try it out.

I'll show you how I can fall. She bounces across the ground. She's on the bottom.

The handmade vendors, business, and sponsor area, both these are the same areas. In prior years, right now, we're 60% full of handmade vendors. We are about full.

Well, they'll like not having the music in their ears.

They'll like it. They'll like it. Our trajectory in terms of income this year is excellent. Our income from the handmade vendors, business vendors, and the food vendors are all have shown an increase. So that's good news. Any questions I can answer about the general layout of Driftways or about any activities?

So all in that parking up by the barn, that's where we're going to have the fire department, police department, all that equipment they have.

Great question, Mayor. So with the parking, this year we have more parking than in the past because of the fireworks fallout zone that's restricted a lot of the parking area. more parking than ever. The north parking lot will be reserved for ADA-placard vehicles only. The south parking lot will be reserved for contractors, entertainers, volunteers. And the north parking lot will be for emergency responders. So the fire department has 30 spaces, the police department has 30 spaces, the entertainment has 30 spaces, and that's VIP parking as well. So the mayor and council have spaces for parking in this area. So as you arrive to Draper Days, instead of going to the South Pavilion, you'll enter at the library entrance and you'll park in this area here.

We're gonna give you some lanyards.

Thank you, Kelly. We'll supply you with lanyards, several of them, and you're welcome to utilize them yourselves or pass those along to your family. or socials.

And are we using the day burn as like a .. It's not going to be the same as last year for volunteers and employees.

I think that's been a great ..

It's been a great year.

And again, trip days, three days, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Friday, Saturday, concerts, fireworks, or drone shows, Thursday, We have the food vendors here, and this is where the car show will take place. And so Thursday, we have the children's bike parade down here at the elementary school. They'll march in, they'll take the loop around, and they'll end up in this area. And concurrently, we'll have the car show going on.

So the food vendors get three days. David, logistically, how are the cars going to enter from there to get in?

That's a great question. So, cars for the, cars shall enter at the South Pavilion. We have a cat out here that will also enter at this bridge near the Unity Playground. So, we'll have two entrances. which is a hundred percent better than what we had last year. So we're hoping to alleviate some of that. I call it a bridge. You don't notice it, but across from there, there's a walkway, a large walkway, and you can drive a vehicle. It's right in the trees.

It's pretty narrow, but it's big enough for the car.

Really quickly about Rodeo, Rodeo's sales are excellent because of the premium pricing us doing away with the child prices we've noticed a substantial increase in income so we've earned ten thousand dollars more which is a good amount for us so we're going great that way and they they look pretty sold out if you go on the line we do have maybe a hundred held out for sponsors we'll release later yeah we'll probably we we have um Not counting the spots we have reserved for contestants and volunteers, we probably have about 100 spots left, which they're great resources to entice sponsors. So we give them those tickets to get that. In terms of sponsorships, really quick, we are broke 80,000. So we're at $80,000. That's pledged amounts. We've got about $50,000 actual cash in hand. $80,000 pledged amounts. Last year we took in $88,000, so we're on track. We will meet or exceed what we took in last year.

Did IFA come through for Cal Ranch?

IFA has.

Cal Ranch is still working on it.

A big shout out to our business licensing officials. Travis DeYoung is the superstar of sponsorships. So that man, he's been great.

He's been fantastic.

Going back to the rodeo, though, we are effectively sold out. Our income looks excellent. We're putting a lot of planning in for the America 250. Swag and decorations and so that way.

Yeah, we got a big flag. We're going to walk in. Tell them about the video board, though. Seriously, we joke about it, but we really think this is going to add a lot.

So we are adding a video board to the Draper Days Rodeo. So both nights of the rodeo, we'll have a large LED high-resolution board there that will be a live feedback. So they'll have cameramen there. We'll be able to show replays of bucking broncos and clowns getting chased. It should have a lot of excitement. That's also an inducement to sponsors. They love the opportunity to produce a short commercial, play that during the intermission, so the addition of the video board should enhance that.

And the video board's not permanent. We're just ranking it.

Yes, it's a real reunion this year. The parade, really quickly.

This is different, wasn't it?

So with the parade, if you remember, we are not throwing candy or other items from the float. So candies and other items will need to be handed or gently tossed to people to find walkers along. We are... That's more walkers.

They're going to have to just walk.

So we are busy. We are engaged in building the float, and we will begin decorating it soon. That's the float that you will ride on and or stand on during the parade. Really exciting. We're building a great big birthday cake on it. It's nine feet tall. Happy birthday, America. Should be really exciting. And thank you, Kelly. We'll have Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam in full character with you on your float. So I'll put them in the front, and they can wave and wave. And you'll be surrounded by cheering residents. So we'll have Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam on your float.

If we could get the guy that played the Easter Bunny a couple of years ago, that would be great.

And Mr. Diamonds. Which council member is calling out for? So the candy situation, because I know that it is a fan favorite. At least all the years I've done it, it's like the fan favorite. So explain to me how we're going to winter.

To compensate, to mitigate that, Mayor, we will have walkers next to your float. They'll pull wagons, and they will be handing out loads of candy on your behalf, walking right next to you. So we'll have lots of candy being distributed.

Much safer. So we can't throw candy or swag out. water if there happens to be super soakers yeah or those like those popper things those were really fun yeah we've got the poppers I've got those and I believe water you know what water is allowed some people on the route could get pretty warm it might be necessary that's what I'm thinking as much as I'd rather tell Tammy we have had some really close calls last year we had a very close one yes it's probably we've got a lot of bullets it's a smart thing to do

Is it better if we just walk? I'm riding the Blade of Liberty.

But I'm not opposed to walking.

We'll include Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam in many of these other events. They'll be present at the rodeo. So at the rodeo, we'll have an eight by eight step and repeat banner of the US Constitution. So you can stand in front of the Constitution, have your picture taken. Hey, David. Guys, David's been killing this on everything.

All right, Scott, that leaves you with not very much time. We're going to bump those. It's time for a break. Let's come back. Let's convene in the chambers at 7. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome you to our city council meeting this evening. It's been a long time since we've had this many people in our chamber, so welcome to all of you. Before I get started, I would like to welcome back to our council, council member Michael Green, who has been on a long military deployment, but he's now home, so we're glad to have him back. So welcome back, Mike. It's good to be home.

So Greg, thank you.

Thank you. We will start off like we normally do with the Pledge of Allegiance. Steve Pearson, our Deputy Fire Chief, is going to lead us. So please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Deputy Chief. All right. That takes us to item number three, and it's a special recognition that we have for one of our great volunteers, employee who runs an important department. Catherine, go ahead. You're the one who would like to take over on this one. Go ahead.

Thanks so much, Mayor. I just want to take a moment to thank Tina Mercer and tell you a little bit about her, or as I know her, Gator, for all she does to contribute positively to our community. So Tina was hired more than nine years ago as a Parks and Rec employee. And this spring, my two girls, who are 10 and 12 years old, decided they wanted to try something new, so they registered for Draper Rec Softball. They were really excited, but they really didn't know what they were doing, and so they were a little nervous. But we learned quickly that there was one person on the field who would always be cheering for them. From the first game to the last, Gator, the umpire, was there teaching the girls how to hit, pitch, and catch. Not only does she teach the skills, she's also a great supporter, and every player benefits from her encouragement and support. When I started asking around other parents, who is this? Everyone knew and loved Gator and had something positive to say about the effect that she had. I heard stories from softball parents, from junior jazz parents, and even from adults that she has refereed or umpired for about her kindness, enthusiasm, and teaching ability. We're so grateful, Gator, that you choose to spend your time lifting our girls, and we are so pleased to recognize you this evening. So I have a certificate and some... Draper swag that we'd like to give you. So if you'll come on up, and I'd love to have, there are some girls, some players here. Have the players stand up also. Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. Our next item on our agenda is item number four, and I'm going to turn the time over to our fire chief, Mr. Clint Smith. Come on up, Chief.

Mayor and Council, thank you for the opportunity again to be before you tonight to recognize some of our members for promotions. As you're aware, we've had a couple of recent retirements within our department. And while it's sad to see some of our esteemed leaders and those that have been with us for a long time retire and move on, what it does create is amazing opportunities for those within our department to continue to progress in their own careers. and so tonight we're happy to have some of them before you as they they are receiving their promotion and moving on in their responsibilities and in their professional development in our department so we're going to start out tonight with our newly promoted battalion chief brian garn come forward brian so i can talk about you why everyone looks at you please Brian has been with us since day one of the development and creation of our department. So he's an OG and he's been extremely dedicated to our department. To watch him progress throughout his career and part of our department is one of the most rewarding parts of the position I hold. and to see him achieve this level, which is very few people achieve the level of battalion chief during their career. So it's a huge accomplishment. I want to tell you a little bit about Brian. He began as a volunteer, just as I did, but he began in 2022 up in Fielding, Utah, which is where he currently lives. And he did that following in the footsteps of his late father. His dedication to serving others has spanned more than 23 years and continues today as he currently actually serves as the fire chief for Fielding. up in northern utah in 2020 in 2005 brian began his ems career with southwest southwest ambulance later joining south south salt lake wish i could speak tonight south salt lake fire department in 2009 where he advanced to the rank of engineer in 2017 he joined our department as one of its founding members and has served as engineer there before being promoted to captain for us in 2018 where he served until this time brian and his wife leslie have been married for nine years she's a saint for putting up with him and they're the proud parents of seven active children they reside in tremont where brian pursues his second passion of operating the family farm In between kids, many sporting events, Brian and his family enjoy boating, traveling, and creating lasting memories together. And again, it's my honor to promote him to battalion chief tonight. So if you'd like to have the significant other come up. Actually, let's do the oath first, and then we'll have the significant other come up. We've instructed him to get that pretty white helmet dirty as quickly as he can. That's a little too white. All right. Okay, next. We are promoting two captains tonight, the first one being Captain Jake Martin. Jake, where are you? There he is. Come on up, sir. Make you stand here while we talk about you, too. So a little bit about Jake. Jake was raised in Southern California, but eventually traded those beaches for mountains when he moved to Utah and attended the University of Utah. The move to Utah turned out to be a good decision as Utah became home in more ways than one. In July, Jake and his wife, Sarah Jane, will celebrate 28 years of marriage. And if you know Jake at all, you'll know that's a testament to the patient's commitment and remarkable tolerance of his wife, Sarah Jane. Together, they've raised two wonderful daughters who continue to make them proud. For more than 15 years, Jake has served in the fire service, building a career centered on service, teamwork, leadership, and a willingness to answer the call at any hour of the day or night. Throughout his career, he's been fortunate to learn from outstanding mentors, work alongside other dedicated firefighters who've helped shape the leader that he is today. When he's not serving in the community, enjoys water skiing, and taking long walks on the beach. That's the way it's written right here.

Sunsets.

Yeah, sunsets, yes. While water skiing satisfies his need for speed, the walks are generally a little easier and better for his body. He looks forward to continuing to serve our community, and we're excited for the leadership that he brings to us. Congratulations.

Thank you. Step there. I'm going to do both at the same time.

Okay, and I'm going to announce the other ones so we can do the swearing in at the same time. If you go back to that picture, just go back to the previous slide, Jake. I just want to point out to everybody that the lower right-hand corner, that picture there is actually a picture of our deputy chief, Steve, and Jake very early in their careers. One was 11 and a half. The other one was 12 years old at the time. So you can figure out who's who in that one. Next, Justin South. Come on up. So, Captain Justin South. It's long, so stand by. It's actually very short. He is a man of few words, but he is a very astute leader. He was born in Salt Lake City, Utah, and he's worked in the fire service since 2016. He has over 20 years in the U.S. Army Reserves, which is outstanding and where he has developed a ton of his leadership abilities, and we have been the beneficiaries of that. He looks forward to his retirement from that so he can focus on family and the next chapter of his life. In his free time, he enjoys outdoor recreating and short biographies. That's a new one for me to learn.

Nailed it.

Nailed it. Nailed it. All right. So if we can swear them both in and then we'll call up one at a time family members to pin on the badges. This is the hard part, you two, so don't screw it up. We'll start with Captain Martin. If he is significant other would like to come up. All right, and final one for tonight. If I can get my phone to work here. All right, Cole, come on up, sir. No, you're fine. You're fine. Stand right here. Turn the face, everyone, so they can give you the eye while I talk about you.

Perfect.

Perfect. So this is Cole. Cole has been a founding member of our department since our creation as well. He was born in Sanding, grew up in Riverton. He had his first child, a son, in July of last year. So he is learning very quickly what true exhaustion really feels like, aren't you? I had no idea. Cole knew since he was a young child that he wanted to get into the fire service, and just out of high school, he attended UVU. While working a concrete job, he reserved his certifications from the Fire Academy. He worked for UFA in Bluffdale part-time until he was hired full-time by Draper in our original group in 2017. Over his years in the fire service, Cole has moved through the positions from entry-level firefighter he's been serving as a paramedic force for the last several years and now is moving to the rank of engineer he enjoys hunting fishing camping working on cars and rock crawling and just bought a home with his girlfriend caitlyn in lehigh who he's been with for the last five years he's excited for this new position and the opportunity to learn and grow in the position as he's that he's always been interested in and i just can't say enough about cole again and what he's brought to our department again watching him grow from an entry-level firefighter, and now to see the success that he's had throughout his career again is really what makes this job that I'm in really worth it. So we're super proud of you, Cole, and continuing to expand your knowledge. So we'll let you get sworn in by Nicole, and then we will do a badge pinning. Thanks, Mayor and Council, for your continued support. I appreciate the time in honoring these folks tonight.

Thank you, Chief. Thank you, firefighter families, for your folks that serve us so well. We have an excellent fire department, and we are well served. They do great work. So thank you again. Thank you all for coming to support them. All right, the next item on our agenda, and I'll wait for the crowd to move.

Thank you.

All right, thank you. Would you ask those guys to quiet down out there if you would, please, officer? Or close it. Tell them to move further out. All right, the next item... on our agenda as an opportunity for general public comment. We have a number of public hearings on our agenda, 6A, 6B, 6C, looks like 6D is continued. Okay. And so we have those public hearing items. If you're here to make a comment on one of the public hearing items, specifically one of the ordinances, I ask that you wait until we call that ordinance to make your comment. But if you want to make a general public comment, let me read you our meeting rules if I could. Comments are intended to be three minutes, and I strictly enforce the three-minute timeline. If you haven't been here, the clock is to my right. Everyone gets three minutes. You certainly don't need to use them, but you can. But at the end of three minutes, your time will be up. We need you to start your comment with your name and your address clearly and the podium microphone so we can start the timer. Comments should be directed to the council. You can direct them to me. We don't call out individual council members or staff members in our public comment. That'll be out of order. Comments should be made to the entire council, and you can ask questions, but the council will not be answering questions from the dais. They'll listen to your comments. They may later in their deliberations desire to do it, but they can't. But it's not a public question and answer session. We do not allow displays or outbursts. Signs are not allowed. Clapping, cheering, none of that's allowed. All of that's out of order. So those are the rules. I have one comment card from Ms. Kathleen Keller. Kathleen, come on up. Give us your name and address. Thank you.

Kathleen Keller, 12782 South Hideaway Cove, Draper. I'm here to let you know that In 2024, I presented a petition from 26 of my neighbors regarding a problem that we were having between 300 East and 150 East along the corridor where the Willow Creek goes. And we were having a real problem with Russian thistles in that area. I wanted to let you know that, number one, You acted quickly and the problem was solved. Number two, the reason I'm, and I have thanked you for that, but the reason I'm letting you know now is that we as the collective neighborhood notice that the public utilities department has made further improvements in that area. And we want to let you know that number one, we notice. Number two, we thank you. And number three, the system works.

Thank you, Kathleen. All right, I always allow opportunity for anyone that would like to make a general public comment. Is there anyone here that would like to? Come on up, sir.

Michael Sussman, I have no address. I'm homeless.

All right, go ahead.

first i would like to address the most pressing matter you know every time i've been arrested it's a false arrest and when i was arrested by a cop named hicks they've taken property including all my prescription medications and they refuse to return any of it in fact the so-called evidence tech says they will never be returning the The prescription medications that I so desperately need. So I've been forced off of them for about a week now. And with respect to my other property, you know, she just has to say maybe someday they'll return it, maybe never. Okay, I think every banishment from a place is not legal. I don't think the Draper police understand that in a place of public accommodation, there needs to be a presumed reason that someone is banished or trespassed, and there never is. I keep hearing the exact same thing, which is... They just don't want you here. That's simply not enough. I think the handcuffs used to arrest me in these false arrests have created enormous problems physically. And I am having enormous problems being off my medications, which are apparently kept in some evidence locker. And no one's giving him to return to me. And besides this, I would like to talk to Richard Ferguson since three minutes is not enough about all the punches I've taken from a cop named Frazier. In addition. You know, I have to say, I'm in a state of sleep deprivation torture. I have not slept in several days, and I think that's typical. And when I do attempt to sleep, that seems to be a motivation to arrest me more than anything else. And that should not be. And besides that... I think the city government is quite capable of helping me should they choose to. I think I'm overlooked because there seems to be a loss of priority. They have all these firemen pretending they're being sworn in to be president of the United States or something. I don't understand it. So I'm hoping that each and every one of you will take a personal interest in me in ending my almost seven years of homelessness in Utah. Thank you.

Thank you. Does anyone else like to make a general public comment to the city? No, you get one turn. Thank you. Is there anybody else? All right, seeing no further interest in general public comment, we'll move in our agenda to item number six. Am I right there? Yes. Item number six. This starts some items for council consideration. The first item is 6A, and this is a public hearing. It's ordinance number 1718. It's an ordinance amending the official zoning map of Draper City for approximately 0.33 acres of property from RA1, residential agriculture, to R3, single family residential, located approximately 12738 South, 300 East, known as the Nielsen Zoning Map Amendment. We'll have a staff report by Todd Draper. Go ahead, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

So this is the Nielsen Zoning Map Amendment. I am actually filling in for Paul Gileman, who did all the work on it, but he is out with a new addition to his family at the time. So this is the vicinity map over there on, oh, He's got Butler in here. Well, I might have pulled the wrong one up, and I apologize. But I can actually get here, too, from this one. It's actually right next to the Butler map. So it's the property just north of it here. And they have requested to rezone as well to the R3 zone, similar to what the Butler rezone was here. And on this, they do not need to amend the land use map because it is already the residential medium density. So with that, the property is 0.33 acres and would conform to the R3 zone. It doesn't conform to the current RA1 zone. And with that, what they're essentially intending to do is to bring it into compliance. It would have the effect of changing one of the the side setback from the 12 feet to the 10 feet, which would allow them a little additional room to potentially build a garage on the one side in the future. And again, I apologize. This is apparently the wrong one here. But again, it's right next door to it. And I do know that the staff report was there in the packet. So if there's any other questions you have for me, I'd be happy to answer them. And we'll just kind of go back to this one. It's the property right here, just north of that.

Yeah, Todd, I think the picture was right. So I think he just has the wrong maps on there. But the street view picture was of the correct house at the end.

Oh, the very last one. This is the correct one.

That's the correct property.

Apologize. But, yeah, are there any other questions you might have?

Questions for Todd?

So, Todd, my understanding that this is currently non-conforming, and so if we were to make this change, it would bring it into compliance?

Yes.

Okay.

Anybody else? All right. Is the applicant here? Do you want to address the council, sir? It's up to you. You don't have to. You can do it at the end if you want. All right. This is a public hearing. It's ordinance number 1718. Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on item 6A? All right. Seeing no public comment, we'll close the public comment period and bring it back to the council. Council members?

Mr. Mayor? Go ahead. I move that we adopt ordinance 1718, approving.

All right, motion by Mr. Green. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Ms. Johnson. Is there any further discussion? All right, hearing Mr. Green, how do you vote?

Yes.

Ms. Johnson?

Yes.

Mr. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Lowry?

Yes.

Ms. Dowland?

Yes.

Items approved unanimously, 5-0. It's been a while since we've had a 5-0 vote. All right, item 6B is next. This is also a public hearing. It's ordinance number 1719 and 1720. It's ordinance of Draper City amending the master area plan and the text of the land use development code of Draper City Municipal Code section 914.110, exhibit 914-1 regarding the veranda west master area plan located... at approximately 137.08 south, 600 west. And we'll have a staff report by Todd Taylor. Go ahead, Todd. Thank you.

The subject property is located here. You can see it on the map west of 600 west and north of Bangor Highway. this is an aerial the subject property you can see that on the northern portion of the site the austin town homes have already been constructed but the southern portion of the site is currently vacant the site is designated transit station district and also zoned transit station district as part of the transit station district our zoning code requires applicants to submit a master area plan for their development The Veranda West Master Plan was adopted in March of 2019, and there was a minor amendment in May of 2020. The applicant is proposing some changes in the uses. As I noted previously, the townhomes are remaining the same. They've already been built. They are requesting an increase of 32 units for the apartments or stacked flats. There will be an increase of 1.16 acres for retail and restaurant. The office land use has been removed from the master area plan, and a surf park of 8.8 acres in size has been added. And then finally, some open space has been reduced by 4.4 acres, but they are still in compliance with the minimum required in the transit station district. This is an exhibit that's in the zoning code showing the intensity zones. They're remaining in the same intensity zones, but just breaking it up slightly differently. This is the concept plan. You can see here on the left the existing Austin townhomes. There would be retail sort of in the center. To the south of that would be the surf park. And then at the very southern end of the site would be the stacked flats. This is an exhibit showing the circulation, and you can see with the purple dotted lines the extensive pedestrian and bicycle circulation through the site. These are showing the open spaces throughout the site. They've also submitted some conceptual elevations of what the stacked flats and amenities space would look like, the retail concepts, and then concepts, renderings of the surf park. The Planning Commission heard this item on May 14th They approved the conditional use permit subject to the City Council approving the master area plan and zoning text amendment And they forwarded a positive recommendation on the master area plan and zoning text amendment with a vote of four to one the dissenting vote was a planning commissioner that had concerns about approving a this surf park during sort of these conditions that we're in in the state at this time. That concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions, but I'd also like to note that the applicant does have a presentation, and they will discuss the water usage at the surf park.

I have a couple questions. You talked about the ask for the reducing of the open space. What is the requirement in this area?

The minimum is 15%.

Okay. And then my other question was, there's been an increase in the want for the high density housing. And it seems like there could possibly be a concern with safety of getting our fire trucks in that area. The previous plan, was there an issue when there were only four apartment buildings? Was there an issue with fire safety?

I wasn't here at the time when that was approved, so I'm not sure. I do know that I talked to our fire marshal that reviews the plans, and he felt that during the site plan approval that we would be able to work out any fire safety concerns with the circulation on the site.

Okay, thank you.

Anybody else have any questions for Todd? All right, are the applicants here? If you'd like to address the council, come on up. Just give us your name and address. Thank you.

Good evening. My name is Jackson Shepherd, 299 South Main Street, Salt Lake City. I represent the ownership group. It's a conglomerate of a bunch of different local development groups. Wasatch Residential Group, we have Adam Langford, the Wasatch Group, Deloitte Hanson, Kip Shepard, and we have our architects here tonight, AE Urbia. We appreciate you guys' time tonight reviewing this. Do I click next on the slide?

Oh, okay.

Excuse me. Here's a better, more realistic rendering of the site. We'll get into the site plan in a minute, but this is the main surf club building. This is a member's lounge, and then this is where the retail village is right there for you guys. to orient yourselves. Again, here's the conceptual site plan. In regards to the open space, I don't believe we're including the pool in the open space, but that'd be another almost approximately four acres, you know, of recreational space. Here's some more renderings of the retail village. This is above the pool looking back towards the... The retail village, the Austin townhomes, would be right there where my cursor is. We're anticipating some restaurants, some retail stores, mainly clothing. This is a view right here looking from the Austin townhomes into the retail village of the parking lot. And then this is, again, the pool. I wish I could get rid of that.

There you go.

This is, again, the pool. The waves are much cooler and much better than was in the rendering. We are very excited to announce that once the pool is approved and built, this will be the official Olympic training venue for the U.S. men's and women's surfing team. And we're excited for that to bring another Olympic sport to Utah. This is a world class facility. Other Olympic national teams use weight pools just like this. The Brazilian team, the Japanese team, they have weight pool facilities just like this. And so we'll be the first weight pool in the U.S. That will be the Olympic training venue. And yeah, we're super excited about that to have them in Utah. Just a little background on the pool. The pool is state of the art. It's completely customizable. You can have beginner waves all the way up to expert waves. So if you're learning to surf, you can come to the pool. If you're an expert, you can come to the pool. Hence why the USA men's surfing and women's surfing team are going to be there. This, we've added all the pool technologies. This one really stuck out to us for a lot of reasons. The first one being it's the most sustainable pool on the market. It uses less electricity than every other pool and it uses less water than every other pool system out there. This pool is just essentially a big bathtub. The water, it's not like you're constantly refilling the water. You fill it up one time and there's some maintenance that you have to, you know, maintain the water levels at. But this pool does not use a ton of water compared to other commercial uses. It's designed to capture the rainfall and snowfall. It's a closed loop recycling system. It's, like I said, just functions like a big swimming pool essentially. Right there it says our annual use of water is estimated at 6 to 9 gallons per year. There's a slide later on that will show you where that compares to other water uses for commercial uses. And again, this is a line basin. This thing's a bathtub. Water's not getting out. The only water getting out of this pool is on your body walking off the pool deck. Here's a comparison of water use compared to all the other uses you could theoretically put here in the TOD. We're estimating the pool uses six to nine million gallons per year. That's actually a report from an engineer, so those are real numbers. If we put high density on the footprint of the wave pool and the uses that we're proposing, it would use 28 million gallons per year. We're estimating that would be about 490 units. So that's four times more water than the proposed surf park. If we did a commercial development on the same acreage, it would be 109 gallons per year, about 12 times more water than the surf park. And obviously the data center, which I won't go into that. The wave pool is super quiet. We will be building in sound mitigation, noise mitigation into what are called the caissons. That's that building right here along the backside that generates the pool. The waves, sorry. Those are essentially just big fans enclosed in concrete chambers that... suck water in and would negatively pressurize and then force it out to make the waves. The wave noise will be about 50 to 60 decibels, which is comparable to everyday neighborhood sounds. People turn on white noise machines with waves. It's going to be very natural sound. It's not going to be anything abnormal or distressing to the neighbors. Traffic and transportation. We submitted a signed traffic impact study with our application. It confirms that all the study intersections operate acceptable levels of service through 2050. And we're going to fund key improvements, including the new single highway in Sixth West. in the southbound deceleration lane at the project entrance. I would like to add that the pool is not an amusement park. It's not like Disneyland. You're not going to have thousands and thousands of thousands of people going in and out every single day at any given time at most. There's between 36 and 40 people surfing in the pool. So again, this is not Disneyland. And we also are, it's a semi-private park. So there will be memberships and there will be times open to the general public. And so there just won't, like I said, there won't be a circus. Economic impact. Yeah, this is giving tons of jobs. We're excited to be right there across from the point. It's gonna be 150 to 200 million during the construction phase. And that includes labor, materials, and engineering and design. Our architect here is a local architect. And then $23 million annually supporting more than 100 local jobs. On top of this, we'll have local surf teams at the high schools, Corner Canyon. Surfing will become part of the culture, and so there'll be more local service-based programs, too. There's some commentary there about the economic impact, which I won't go through. And then, again, just our partners. We've partnered... Again, we're a bunch of local developers, and we've partnered with a few developers and operators to make sure that we're doing this the right way. There's a few individuals on here, Bergman Construction, who's building three wave pools in the world right now, one in Mexico and in other places. So we're... Yeah, we're a very experienced development team, and we've done... tons of projects here with the city and have enjoyed our relationship with the local community and with the city. And that's all I have. Thank you.

Questions?

I do have some questions. My primary concern is the safety issues that were raised by the fire department. So can you touch on how you guys might mitigate some of those?

Yeah, I'll actually ask Connor Shepard to come up. But on the site plan, if I can go back... there's two entrances to the apartments back here, this one right here, and then this one right here. And, you know, we're developers. We worked with the fire departments before, Hammerheads, all of the, you know, all those things. But this road in specific is and should be wide enough for that. And this road, again, is wide enough for the two ingresses and egresses. They're both two ways, so... Do you have anything to add to that? Oh, there it is.

Yeah. So yeah, Mason Chavez. I'm one of the architects working on the project. I spoke pretty extensively with Don Buckley at the fire department, the city fire marshal. His main concern was with the residential units at the south, most southern portion of the property. But he was pretty confident through... The redesign of the site, I believe that previous iteration that you mentioned, pretty much only had one point of access. It was really difficult to be able to get fire trucks back into the site. We're through the redesign. Now we have multiple points of access, as well as being able to kind of meet our required distances around the buildings. And then he kind of just mentioned when the time comes and we start submitting permits for those buildings, we'll just be able to kind of work with local fire code as well as national fire code to be able to make sure that if there is ever an emergency, any residents within those stacked flats would have plenty of time to be able to be serviced and be able to exit the property safely.

And is that something that will be outlined in the site plan then, what those, you know, that everything's where we want it to be?

Yes, that will be part of the review of the site plan, and the fire marshal will make sure that everything is included during that.

I just have a couple more questions, if that's okay. The retail space that you talked about, that's open to the general public, not just the clients of the facility? Correct, yeah. Okay, and then my, I mean, I do have some, you know, concerns about water, and I think, you know, what you showed was helpful. But another concern that I have, you did talk about noise, but we also have some light ordinances in our city. And I think those hours for noise and light are from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. And I think your operating hours were suggested from like 6 a.m. to 11 p.m., if I read that correctly. Is that right?

That's correct. Yeah, and that's mainly just due to people lingering on the site after we shut down the waves and stuff like that. We plan to adhere to the quiet hours of the city code and stuff like that, but getting people set off the site and stuff, including employees, just closing down the buildings and things like that, takes a little longer.

So are your operating hours going to, like, finish at 10 and you're just going to give people an hour to get out? Correct.

Yeah, the operating hours will conclude at 10 and, you know, people will make their way out of the facilities.

Okay. And the kind of same thing with the 6 a.m. is just allowing people to get there before, like, the 7 a.m. start time or something like that. Yeah, that is correct. Okay. Thank you.

Anybody else?

A couple questions, Mayor. I think also your intent with this, too, is to maybe have some other events like receptions or parties and stuff like that, too, on some of your structures, right?

Yeah, and the surf center here, the second floor, has a few thousand empty square feet of space just for that. Obviously, we'll have to pull event permits if they go beyond a specific size. We feel like we're adequately parked, again, just given the, you know, people were estimating we'll use the park every day. But that's correct. There will be, yeah, some event space right here. And then also the retail village area. was kind of designed this plaza right here. So you could maybe do some cool events there. And we've actually sunk the wave pool two feet down. So it's almost like an amphitheater. So people coming, people in the retail will be able to see the pool and not just a fence because you have to put a fence there for the health and safety code.

Great.

And then a question, how are you funding the new signal or improvements on 600 West? Just out of the project budget. So is that part of this agreement? I mean, or is that just something, a commitment you're making?

I believe that's part of a prior agreement with the city. Is that correct, Adam?

Adam Langford, Wasatch Residential Group, 620 South State Street. Any improvements to 600 West? Is that what you're referring to? Anything that would need to be done, like curb gutter sidewalk, turn lanes, and things like that, would be done with the development of the project. The signal that we're anticipating... That's really just going to come in when the traffic counts are high enough. But yeah, any improvements like fire, turn lanes, things like that would be done with the development. They'd be our cost as part of the development.

Does that need to be an development agreement then? Yeah.

I believe that'll be part of the traffic study that'll be submitted, or the final traffic study that'll be submitted with the site plan. That'll indicate what mitigation is needed for the project and what triggers, when those triggers will occur.

But wouldn't we want to put that in a development zoning or not?

So there isn't a development agreement application. It would be in the master area plan that you would add that. Now, I have not seen the traffic impact study, so I don't know what it says and when that signal would be needed. So maybe something that's needed when they open and maybe something that's expected to be needed later.

Because all we're doing is changing the land use schedule. Text amendment for that area right now, correct?

Yeah, we're amending the master plan and text land use.

Never mind.

So we only need to evaluate that and that one component in front of us. So all the site questions are really irrelevant and all these other things. We just need to decide whether or not this is a compatible use and we want to extend the text amendment. So I think we should get to the public hearing and move along.

Well, I'll state, I don't think it's totally irrelevant. It helps us understand exactly the use and the purpose of this. So, thanks.

Anybody else have any questions? If I could clarify what Jan is, will there be a need for any subdivision application on the site?

I'm not sure that's up to them where it's all commercial applications. All of the different uses could be on the same property. They may want to subdivide it for different ownership. So the apartments could be on one piece of property and the surf park on another, but that would be up to them.

My thought being that often that's where we get turn lanes and other things that are issues that are created by the development often get resolved in subdivision.

They will have to apply for a site plan and go through that site plan review process. And with that, we will require that traffic study.

Thank you. Anybody else have any other questions?

Yeah, Jen, can you tell me if this falls within our unlimited height, unlimited density zone or within the half mile radius of a track station?

I think it's outside the half mile radius. It is in the transit station district zone. So that is the zone that has the unlimited height with the master area. So the way the TSD zone works is it basically has minimum densities, minimum building heights. And then with these master area plans, the developers basically lay out what it is that they're going to do, what kind of density, what kind of heights they're going to do.

But theoretically, they could be asking for much higher density on this site than they are. Would that be correct? Correct.

Anybody else? I have two. How big of a wave can you make?

About eight feet. It will be about...

Eight feet?

Yeah, about that tall, yeah.

An eight-foot face?

Yeah, that's correct, yeah. Wow.

That's awesome. Second question. Go back to that water usage table. I can't let this go. All right. So now I've been told, I've heard in the news... that these data centers don't use any water at all. So you're telling me right here that these data centers reuse 500 million gallons a year?

It depends on the data center. If it's a closed-loop system, it could. Most data centers going in in Wyoming and other places aren't. They're just drawing on the public utilities. You know, there's a very controversial one happening here in Utah, and they've decided to turn it into a closed-loop system, so...

That's amazing. All right. Thank you. This is a public hearing.

Can I ask one more question? Go ahead. Or one question. So it looks like you're asking for a higher density on the apartment side. And is that, are you requiring any sort of zoning change for that?

I don't.

Adam Langford, Las Hatch Residential Group again. So we're the apartment developer. I mean, we're all under one umbrella, but we're the developer. So if I could just explain the increase in units real quick. So the site... the apartment site on the south end actually got bigger by two acres. So that's the first thing, the site's bigger. So when we started working with the rest of the group on the surf park, we started flipping buildings around and facing the surf park and facing out, we have some better views. It was really a function of the site getting bigger, better site planning. Also, I don't know if we can go back, but there's a huge sewer line that runs. And so we decided to make that instead of running through... It's right here. Yeah. So we really created that as... as the north boundary between the two, because it's kind of hard to know how to site plan. I mean, that's a huge sewer line. So that was the other thing. So the density is actually down. The unit count is higher, but that's because we're a bigger site. So we were 29 units to the acre with the one before that's approved, and this one is 26. So, yeah, so the density went down... And really, it's just function of the site getting bigger, trying to do better site planning with views, and really having some connection to the surf park instead of turning our back to it. So we have a building facing it, and then we have our clubhouse that's really going to feel like an extension of this, too. And honestly, we just felt like you've got tracks on one side, Bangor and 600 West. It's a good spot to put density, even though we are lower. Hopefully, that answers the question.

Thank you. Yeah. Anybody else? Anything else?

So comparative to other surf parks or other things like Lagoon, is this a smaller Surf area? Or similar?

It's similar to other surf parks. It's similar. It depends on the technology used. There's a wave pool in Fresno, California that's almost three times as large as this pool. So you could just straight line that and assume it's three times the water usage. There's a wave pool that will be opening up in Palm Springs, and they're about the same acreage surface area. That's correct.

Okay, thank you.

All right, this is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public who would like to address the council on item 6B, ordinance 1719 and 1720? All right, seeing no public comment, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council.

Mr. Mayor, I make the motion that we approve ordinances 1719 and 1720.

All right, motion by Fred for approvals are second.

I'll second. Can I ask just one question still of Clint? Chief, do you feel okay with where this stands now with fire?

Yeah, as mentioned, there was some initial concerns based on the original design, but the work of the reworking of the site with the two entrances have mitigated our concerns from the emergency access standpoint.

Perfect, thank you. Yes, I'll second.

My second. Your second's there. Okay, motion by Fred, second by Tasha. Is there further discussion?

I think just amending this master area plan for something like this will be a great addition to the city if it's followed through.

I do think that this is an area that needs some more of this sort of food, entertainment, restaurant, retail. And I think that will be a good addition. We really have very little of it in this area. And I also really appreciated your charts on the water use. I think it's really easy to assume that you're going to be gluttonous with water, but your charts make it very clear that you're actually cutting down on what you could have had had it been developed as high density apartments.

You heard the retail, retail, retail. Any further discussion? All right, Fred, how do you vote? Yes. Sasha?

Yes.

Catherine?

Yes. Wren? Yes.

Mike? Yes. Items approved unanimously, five to zero. That takes us to 6C. It's a public hearing ordinance 1724 and 1725, and it's an ordinance amending the official land use map of Draper City and an ordinance amending the official zoning map of Draper City for approximately 0.31 acres located at the southeastern boundary of the city at approximately 16377 South Suncrest Drive, known as the city-initiated Draper Highland boundary adjustment number two zoning map amendment.

This has been a long one.

Go ahead, Mr. Draper.

Yes, thank you. This is the other half of the zoning map amendments with the adjustment done between Draper and Highland. this you'll see the vicinity map we did the other one previous where we took area out of the city this is area coming into the city and you can see here in the aerial map and what we're looking to do is just match what's existing right next to it there the hillside low density land use and the a5 zone and the sensitive hillside overlay and There's a side photo with the approximation of where that would be out there. And this is taken from the nearest road there in the city. And did get a unanimous recommendation for both of those from the Planning Commission. And if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

Questions for Todd?

Let's just go back to that first, that other picture with the green.

Sorry, which one?

The next one.

This one or that one?

Yeah, they're both good. Okay, thank you.

Questions? All right, this is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on item 6C? I see no public wanting to address the council. I'll close the public hearing. Bring it back to the council.

Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve ordinances 1724 and 1725.

I have a motion by Tasha for approval. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Brandt. Any further discussion? Hearing none, Tasha, how do you vote?

Yes.

Brynn? Yes. Mike? Yes. Fred? Yes. Catherine?

Yes.

Items approved unanimously five to zero. Item 6D has been continued by, I guess, the applicant to a time date uncertain. So we'll pass skip 6D. That takes us to item seven. Be prepared for the reading hereof, the new requirements. 7a, the budget officer intends to state that the fiscal year 26-27 intended budget includes a proposed property tax rate increase. The budget officer intends to state as a required disclosure under Utah Code section 59-2-919 sub 4 sub small a that the city's tentative budget for fiscal year 2026-2027 includes a proposed property tax rate increase. Should I just keep going? Item 7B, this is a statement by the budget officer, which is me, that the fiscal year 2026-2027 tentative budget includes a proposed property tax rate increase. The budget officer will make the statement required by Utah Code Annotated 59-2-919-4-a that the city's tentative budget for fiscal year 2026-27 includes a proposed property tax rate increase. Item 7C.

So 7B, the proposed property tax statement is on the screen as we are looking at it. And the statement reads, Draper City is considering levying a tax rate that exceeds the city's certified tax rate. The proposed tax rate is estimated to increase the current tax rate from .000936 to .001170. The proposed tax rate increase would generate approximately $2,696,000 of additional ad valorem tax revenue to be used to pay for operational and compensation The property tax rate increase would increase the city's ad valorem tax revenue by approximately 25%. If the city proceeds with the proposed tax rate increase, the city will provide notice of and conduct a public hearing as required by Utah Code section 5929194C, and that is currently scheduled for August 12th. Current Draper City property tax rate is .000936. The current Draper City property tax revenue is 10,186,000. The proposed Draper property tax rate with the increase is .001170. The proposed Draper property tax rate revenue with the tax increase is 12,882,000. The proposed new property tax revenue is $2,696,000. Estimated increase to a primary residence valued at $807,000. The median rate for Draper City is $8.66 per month, $103.86 per year for a 25% increase. The estimated increase to a business valued at $1 million is $19.50 per month, $234 per year, and a 25% increase. That is the statement. So we can now move on to the next item, Mayor. Mayor.

That's the required slide, and that counts for 7C, or I've still got to read 7C?

No, we've got to read 7C now.

All right, just for the record, every time we talk about this budget, because it has a proposed tax increase, we've got to read and do all this. Thank you to the Utah legislature. All right, presentation, property tax impact schedule. The budget officer presents and makes available to the public a property tax impact schedule as a separate document from all other budget documents as required by Utah Code section 59-2-924 and 59-2-919-4-A. The budget officer will present the property tax impact schedule as a standalone document separate from all other budget materials in accordance with Utah Code section 59-2-919 and 59-2-924. And there on the screen is the standalone document.

Correct. So this is the first section of the property tax impact schedule. This shows that all of our city departments budget without the property tax increase would total $53,518,400. With the proposed increase, the amount remains the same, $53,518,400. The difference being that the Draper City fund balance would be used to cover that additional cost. Without the property tax increase, the Draper City fund balance would sit at $16,519,000. With the proposed budget, we would be required to draw less on the fund balance, and fund balance would sit at $18,980,000, the difference being $2,461,000 that would be pulled from fund balance. The impact of the tax increase, with the property tax increase, Draper will reduce its reliance on fund balance to meet the ongoing operational needs of the city. Two other items on the property tax impact schedule. The first is within the fire department. Fire department over time without the tax increase would be at $250,000. With the proposed property tax increase, fire department overtime would be zero for a reduction of $250,000, and we would use $165,000 of additional revenue and hire three additional personnel for a proposed budget of $415,000, increasing that line item to $415,000, but the net change being $165,000 increase to the fire department budget. The impact of the tax increase, the city will fund three new firefighter position, reducing the reliance on overtime to meet minimum staffing levels and reducing firefighter fatigue. Within Parks and Recreation, we currently have a budget. The budget without the tax increase is $130,000 for parks playground maintenance. With the proposed property tax increase, the budget increases to $200,000, a budget change of $70,000. The impact of the tax increase, the city will have the necessary funding to continue annual playground replacements at the recommended level in order to maintain compliance with risk and insurance mandates.

Thank you, John. Those are presentations. Now we're 7D. We're to some action here, finally. Resolution 2628 is a resolution adopting the fiscal year 2026-2027 interim budget for the Draper City, including the staffing document and compensation schedules. Go ahead.

I want a different slide show. Just one second here.

Take your time. Get the slides that need to be slid.

I think I got the right slide this time, and I'll present the right slide. The total city budget is shown here. You can see the tentative budget that you adopted on May 19th. Today we will be adopting an interim budget. There are some changes from the tentative to the interim budget, mostly due to some items that we included in the budget amendment last week. So those changes are within the CRA. We are increasing the budget by $3.3 million for a contracted service in the Crescent project area. We are increasing the budget for $450,000 for traffic light in the East Bangor project area. We'll discuss that in detail as we move into the CRA, but I thought I'd show it in the total for the city budget. BNC Road Fund will increase by $475,000. That is for a Traffic signal. Traffic signal. I'm trying to remember if that was the right one. That is for the traffic signal, correct. The local highway option tax fund will increase by $50,000. That is for our sidewalk gap replacement. Park impact fees will increase by $30,000. That is for the 1300 East overpass. And then you can see each of those projects lie within the capital projects fund. And so we have a separate line item for each of those items that are being adjusted within the budget. The water fund has two items within it, $750,000 increase for pump station two emergency repairs, $350,000 for pump station three improvements. Again, in correlation with the budget amendment that we passed last week. Those projects aren't going to be completed in the next two weeks, so we need to adopt them now into the interim budget for next fiscal year. Stormwater Fund has the two projects that we had funded in the budget amendment as well, the trailer-mounted storm line jetter and the stormwater master plan. The Ambulance Fund has funding for CPR assist devices as well as EKG monitors. And the Fleet Fund has funding for a police vehicle, a new golf cart for community events, and upgrades to unit number 702 and ST-144. Summary of all of the changes is listed here. It's $7,957,500, taking the total budget from $167,754,200 to $175,711,700. And I have further details if you want to go into more of the budget presentation, but you've seen all of those in the past couple of council meetings.

Any questions for Mr. Veik on budget item? I would like to comment that the $710,000 beautification money is not all going to one new project, but it is the beautification projects that we need all around the city. So it's not like a new, it's the doing of all the things that council's asked to do at various points. There was some question about that at the public hearing on the budget. Anybody have any questions for Mr. Veik? If not, is there a motion on 7D?

Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve item 7D, resolution 26-28.

We have a motion by Brynn to approve the resolution 26-28. Is there a second? Second.

I'll second.

Second by Mike. Any further discussion? All right, hearing none, Brynn, how do you vote?

Yes.

Mike? Yes. Fred? Yes. Sasha? Yes. Catherine?

Yes.

All right, items approved unanimously, five to zero. Item 7E is next. It's an action item. It's Resolution 2629. It's a resolution amending the consolidated fee schedule for Draper City. Go ahead, Mr. Pike.

So in conjunction with the budget, we will adopt some changes to the consolidated fee schedule. I have a summary of those changes here on the screen. There are basically two different parts. First accessory dwelling units were They're part of our code, but they were not listed within the consolidated fee schedule. So to clarify that we actually are charging those, we have added those to the consolidated fee schedule. We are also making the changes that we'll talk about here in a couple of items for the water rate changes that will be adopted. So you can see that here on this page as well as on the next one. So those are the changes within the consolidated fee schedule.

All right. Is there any questions on items 7E, Resolution 2629? Is there a motion?

Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt Resolution 2629, amending the consolidated fee schedule.

All right. Motion by Mike to adopt Resolution 2629. Second? Second. Second by Tasha. Any further discussion? I'm hearing Mr. Green. How do you vote? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Dowland?

Yes.

Mr. Lowry. Yes. Ms. Johnson.

Yes.

Items approved unanimously, five to zero. Existent item. Split on two pages there. 7F. Action item is resolution 2630. Resolution notifying the Utah Retirement System, URS, of the city's intent to pick up public safety and firefighter contributions. Go ahead, sir.

So what this is doing is the legislature a couple of years ago, we went to tier two and we thought the city's contribution into the public safety retirement was capped at 14% by the legislature. Since that time, those rates have gone up above that 14%, but the cities have petitioned the legislature and the legislature has allowed cities to go above that 14% in order to be able to hire quality firefighters and police officers. And we are required to notify the Utah Retirement System that we are planning to pick up that additional amount. This year, last year, the amount was at 4.73% above the 14%. It is increasing to 5.98% above that 14%, so 19% above, 19%. contribution into those funds. The budget includes funding to cover this increase and so it's proposed that we adopt that.

Any questions for Mr. Veik on item 7F?

Can I ask, so last year it was 4.37. Has it been consistently going up every year?

It kind of depends. Typically, yes, but this is a larger dump than we've seen in most years. So it's gone up about 1%, well, not even that per year, so a little less than 1% per year. Now, within the employee side, that was capped at 10%. That has exceeded the 10%, and so employees are now contributing the additional portion, and that sits at 0.7% above. So it's really 10.7%, but the employees within the Tier 2 system, public employees that are not within police and fire, are picking up that portion and making that contribution for themselves. Because the legislature hasn't given cities the ability to exceed the 10%.

And the reason the percentage is so much higher for public safety is because the years of service before retirement are shorter?

I think they have actuaries that do all those computations, and I'm certainly not, and nor do I ever want to be an actuary. So I couldn't tell you exactly why those are going up the way they are.

Any other questions? All right, is there a motion?

Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt item 7F, resolution 26-30.

I have a motion by Bren to adopt 26-30. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Fred. Any further discussion? Hearing none, Brynn, how do you vote?

Yes.

Fred? Yes. Mike? Yes. Tasha? Yes. Catherine?

Yes.

Items approved unanimously, five to zero. Item 7G is next, and it's a resolution 2631. It's a resolution to the City Council acting as the governing board of the Traverse Ridge Special Service District, adopting and certifying a tax rate for the taxable, for the 2027 taxable year. Do we need to convene that, or are we, I guess...

So we don't have to. You are the governing body. And so you and what you can't do is you cannot delegate the taxing authority to the special service district. So because of that, you are required to set the tax rate. Now, the city has not received our certified tax rates yet. That's not actually due to us until the 13th. of the month so what the ordinance what the resolution will say is that we will adopt the certified tax rate that is presented by the different counties and then we'll have to come back to you mayor to get that signed okay is there any questions no questions or motion i'll make a motion that we um

Accept resolution 26-31.

I have a motion to adopt resolution 26-31 by Catherine. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Brynn. Further discussion? Hearing none, Catherine, will you vote?

Yes.

Brynn?

Yes.

Tasha? Yes. Fred? Yes. Mike? Yes. Items approved unanimously, 5-0. 7H is next. It's an action item as well, Resolution 2632. It's a resolution adopting the Fraud Risk Assessment for the City of Draper. We'll have a staff report by Mr. Veidt. Go ahead, sir.

So this is also required. We complete a fraud risk assessment each year to determine where fraudulent activity could be and how we are exposed. We received a score of 355 out of 395, which puts the city at... risk level in the very low category. I've discussed this with Mike. There's probably some opportunities to even increase that score, and we'll work on some of those that might include you guys in some training that we'll get to do in a study session.

All right, that sounds exciting. Is there any questions on 7-H? All right, is there a motion?

Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt item 7H, resolution 26-32. All right.

We'll have a motion by Bryn to adopt resolution 26-32. Second? Second. Second by Catherine. Is there any further discussion? All right. Hearing none, Bryn, how do you vote?

Yes. Catherine? Yes.

Asha? Fred? Yes. Mike? Yes. Item's approved unanimously, 5-0. Item 7A. I is next action item is ordinance number 1722. It's an ordinance of Draper City Council Adopting the compensation schedule for statutory employees. Go ahead.

Mr. Veik Wait, I pulled up the wrong slide. Forgive me I can't get my alphabet going right today so Within the budget that we adopted in the interim budget, we actually adopted all of the executive officer compensation. But we are required to adopt the statutory officers by ordinance. And so this is an ordinance adopting the statutory officer compensation ranges for the city recorder and the city treasurer.

Are there any questions for Mr. Veik on Ordinance 1722? I'm hearing no. Is there a motion? So moved. Motion by Mr. Green. Is there a second? Second. Second by Ms. Lowry. Is there any further discussion? Mr. Green, any vote? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Johnson?

Yes.

Mr. Lowry? Yes. And Ms. Dolan? Yes. Items approved unanimously, five to zero. Item number 7J is next. Let me get through the whole alphabet. Action is ordinance number 1723, not quite. An ordinance of the Draper City Council adopting the updated water rates for culinary water customers and services. By Draper City, again, a report by Mr. Veit. Go ahead, sir.

The items in green are the proposed rate increases. As we've discussed and had the public hearing on last week, that represents a 4.5% increase to the variable rates in each of the residential and commercial zones.

All right, any questions for Mr. Veik?

Just to clarify, this is passing along. This is not a Draper City tax. This is passing along the rate increase from Jordan Valley, correct?

Correct, yep. We did receive an increase of 4.5%, and we are passing that along to the consumer.

All right, any other questions?

It's like August 15th. They have a truth in... So the Jordan Valley Water District has a truth in taxation, but I don't know the actual date of their truth in taxation.

Are we obligated to point that out?

So as we move into this process, yes, we will post all of the different tax increases on our website, which will also include a link to when those... When their truth and taxation hearing will be.

But that obligation is at the truth and taxation hearing.

We are obligated to do that for the truth and taxation, yes, 14 days prior to our truth and taxation.

But that is related to the truth and taxation hearing. It doesn't have to be done right now. Correct. And I want to get trapped on any of that crap again. That is correct.

On that? Because we don't have that information. We do not have that advertisement from the from the state or from the counties at this point in time. So they are working on getting all of the certified tax rates, and they have until the middle of this month to be able to do that. And then once the property tax notices go out, then the counties will put together that advertisement, and then we are required to post that advertisement on our website, and we will have copies of that in our meeting, our truth and taxation hearing as well.

Okay. I want to be clear. All right. Is there a motion on Ordinance 1723?

Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve Item 7J, Ordinance Number 1723.

Motion by Brin to adopt 1723. Is there a second? Second. Second by Tasha. Further discussion? I hear a number. And how do you vote?

Yes. Tasha?

Yes. Catherine?

Yes. Brad?

Yes. Mike? Yes. Items approved unanimously, 5-0. Out of the letters. Wait, we're not. I need a motion to adjourn to the Community Reinvestment Agency meeting.

Mr. Mayor.

I'll second.

So moved.

Motion by Mr. Green, second. Second. Second by Catherine. All in favor of adjourning to the Community Reinvestment Agency meeting, say aye.

Aye.

Are there any opposed? All right. I'm going to call the Community Reinvestment Agency to order. We have two items. Not really one item. Item for board consideration. 2A as an action item is Resolution CRA 26-02. It's a resolution adopting the Community Reinvestment Agency of Draper City budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027. There is no tax increase there, so no laborious readings. Is there a motion?

So I'll just make a note that the tentative budget was approved and the items that are changing from the tentative to the interim budget are listed on the board. So it is the change of $3.3 million within the Crescent project area and then $450,000 within the East Bangor project area. So that'll change the total budget for the CRA by $3.75 million.

All right, is there questions? All right, is there a motion?

Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt Resolution CRA 2602.

All right, motion by Mr. Green. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Ms. Johnson. Is there any further discussion? Mr. Green, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Johnson?

Yes.

Mr. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Dolan? Yes. Items approved unanimously, 5-0. Is there a motion to adjourn back to the City Council meeting? So moved. Second? Second. Motion by Mr. Green, second by Tasha. All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Are there any opposed? We're back in the city council meeting. Is there anyone that would like to do any council manager discussions? We didn't do that in the last meeting.

I have a couple of things.

Go ahead.

My first thing was that I think we need to do an updated picture because we have Mike back and Catherine's. So I just wanted to mention that. And then my other thing I wanted to bring up was that I thought it was great that we recognized one of our our coaches in the softball, and I was wondering if there might be a way to include the ability for the general public to nominate, you know, a volunteer or an excellent employee that we could recognize, because I want to make sure that it's inclusive, that everyone has that chance. I was thinking maybe we could put something on our website, like the Living in Draper section, because, you know, you could tell that was really meaningful to... What's her name again? Tina. Tina, okay. That's what I was looking for, Gator. I'm like, what was her name? Gator. Yes, you could tell it was really meaningful to her, and I think we've got so many amazing citizens within our community who really contribute. So that was just an idea.

I'm supportive of that as long as it's the council as a whole giving out the award.

Anybody else? On that note, I just want to comment because the way we do our agenda typically, and my bad, I'm not looking at it sooner, but I can put something on the agenda, any two of you can. That's the way we get it on there, and I do think it is important if we're going to do that kind of stuff. We've never done it like that in my whole entire time as elected official. I mean, you guys can vote to do whatever you want and put whatever you want on there, but I do think it needs to be coherent, and I do think that what I don't want to see is we start a tradition of... You know, every council member picks someone they want to recognize every week, and it gets completely out of control for it. And I just think our meetings have always been really coherent and focused. And, I mean, you can, I don't have a vote, but that's our rules currently. So if you want to change them, let's change it by vote. Otherwise, let's stick to the set rules that we have.

I think that's great. We did vote last week to get this on the agenda, and I apologize that I didn't realize I should have made sure you were the one speaking.

Well, I think we agreed that we could recognize her. I don't think we meant it to be like this. Right? Like, that's just not how we do it.

Yeah, and I apologize that I didn't know that.

That's okay. Just going forward, I think we could, I mean, I think it's great to do it. I think we should do it. I think it was meaningful for sure, and she's certainly deserving. That's not the issue for me. It was just, I didn't, I would have caught it had I been, had a little more opportunity. It's my bad. I should have checked the agenda. So anyway, just going forward, unless you want to change.

I think it just caught us all off guard. I think it was probably meant for all of us to like stand there for the photo and all that. I don't. I think you intentionally meant to exclude us all. Right, right.

But, Fred, we don't personally, as council members, present awards. It's always presented from the mayor. Yeah.

Unless you want to change that.

No, I think the mayor usually does that.

Well, the award is from him.

Right.

I agree.

Okay. And the mayor is the spokesperson of the council.

Put your mic in. The USB, your mic unplugged. Did it still record?

It's now working. It's still working. All right. Anybody else have anything else?

Mayor, I just want to mention a reminder of the fire department banquet tomorrow night at the aquarium, 6 o'clock. So look forward to being able to have all of you there.

Is it in the new park?

It is. We weren't scheduled there, but we did request to be moved, and we were moved. So it is in the new part.

Pretty cool.

Yeah, it's a very nice facility. Thank you.

All right, anything else from anybody else? All right, is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. All right, Mr. Green, is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Ms. Johnson. All right, all in favor of adjourning, say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? All right, we stand adjourned.