Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting
The Board of County Commissioners approved supporting the High Desert Museum's application for an electric mobility grant. They also held a work session for upcoming public hearings on comprehensive plan amendments and zone change requests for Willitts, LLC and R. Derek Jaros LLC properties, discussing concerns about late public comments and land use issues.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Board of County Commissioners
- Meeting Type
- Board Of County Commissioners
- Location
- Deschutes County, OR
- Meeting Date
- August 31, 2026
Transcript
64 sections
Everyone has a good afternoon. Thank you to the County Board of Commissioners for participating in today's Yoga on August 26, 2021. Let us now begin the Yoga. Our first agenda is to make changes or accept changes. Is there anything in the agenda that needs to be added, or removed, or changed? No, so let's move on.
Was that a suggestion? Yes, it was.
I accepted the suggestion. I will repeat it.
I will repeat it. Yes, I wasn't sure what it was.
Is there more discussion? Yes.
Mr. McDonald.
Yes, I, as the chairman, am voting for it. Let's hear the opinions of the public now. At this time, if anyone in the room has anything to say, please come forward and raise your hand. If anyone online has anything to say, please raise your hand virtually. Since no one is in the room or online, let's move on to the commissioner's announcements. Do the commissioners have any announcements? Let me explain what I and Commissioner Chang participated in the Sheets Basin Water Management Tour. I'm sure there are other names for it, but I was able to learn a lot. It was a tour of the Irrigation District through places that provide water for agriculture in the three-county Meghalaya. But one thing I understood was that water cannot be poured in the channels with concrete lining. Until I talked about it, I didn't understand it. If water is poured through the concrete slabs that are hidden in the concrete slabs, it can break through the cracks. Earlier, people used to call me. We used to have stoke roads. I asked why not now. They said they didn't know. I said they would call the irrigation districts. But there is a clear reason for that. Moreover, we were able to see the great progress of the Lone Pine Irrigation District in the preparation for the increase in water. They are a small irrigation district that is part of a large system. The irrigation system there strengthens the upstream irrigation system. They were able to hear about the Lysnoly Ranch. They can now use the water in their fields for various agricultural needs. What they can do in their land is what they really desire. Yes, then we were able to walk to the bottom of the dam. It was really an experience to touch these diversions in Bend. That's why I was very happy to see the water running out. We should celebrate that at least some of the water is running out in the last few years. Yes, this is a normal situation. Temple Irrigation District is running out of water. But usually, in such situations, they would run out of water once a week or twice a week. But now they are running out of water once a week or twice a week, he said. So I was able to understand a lot of things from it. It was a good day. Good. Yes. Yes.
The main thing is that we are protecting the water in agriculture and irrigation districts. This means that our best conditions will last for a long time. At this time, people will get water even in the rainy season. In previous years, they were in a situation where they could not get water at all. This is not only beneficial for the customers who have the right to water junior, but also for those who live in rivers and rivers. Because the canal piping and farm conservation activities are increasing, they are getting more water than before. So it was a good news. Do the commissioners have any other announcements to make? At the end of last week, I would like to share with you the events that we held in the city at the end of last week. I had shared my wishes with you. When we move forward with the discussion on landfill sites, I said that it is necessary to ensure that our cities, districts, and counties reach the county facilities in Bavi. For that, they are ready to accept one or the other action. Only if the Commissioner Board wishes so. Yes, we can try to do that, or if our wishes are fulfilled, we can talk about the things we have achieved in a useful way.
Did you understand that the thought in my mind is to ensure the culture of sharing? Yes, because it is a great responsibility for everyone to build these new facilities and improve the use of the land, isn't it? Because it is important to develop a culture of sharing there. Yes, Okay, you can talk. I don't have a problem. You can talk about anything that is more useful to you. Show me the things on that page. Okay. So, I think we can move on to our usual behaviors. First of all, I would like to extend my thanks to the High Desert Museum, which is the first Pacific Power Electric Mobility Grand. Thank you, Commissioner, Board. I have with me the Executive Director of the High Desert Museum, Dana Bawu. She will be able to share some of her opinions about this exhibition and answer your questions. This was included in the agenda on Sunday. We have included a sign in our meeting pocket. As the chairman said, this is a sign of appreciation for the High Desert Museum, a Pacific Power Electric Mobility Grant. In communities where electric mobility brands are not being used, the government is trying to implement measures that will improve mobility. In particular, attention is being paid to the establishment of facilities for electric vehicles and the purchase of electric vehicles. Therefore, I call on the Commissioners to respond to your questions. Let's begin. Greetings, Dana.
Greetings, Commissioners. Thank you very much for the help you gave me in the last minute of your time and in the last minute of your time. It was a great pleasure. We would like to make a grand contribution to the Pacific Power's Electric Mobility Program. The vehicles that we have acquired over the past few years have been a great help to our outreach programs throughout the Middle East. Especially in South County, Redmond, Crook, and Jefferson Counties, we are fortunate. We have also accepted vehicles as part of the museum's transportation program. We started using electric vehicles instead of diesel-powered gators. This is our third operation in three years. We need another electric vehicle for our educational outreach programs and a small electric utility vehicle to clean the roads and parking lots in the summer. We spend $65,000 from Pacific Power to buy these vehicles. So they pay us. We use it to buy vehicles. They are very good examples. Not only does our outreach reduce the cost of educational activities, but it is also a great way to ensure that the museum is slowly but surely restored. So, let me stop here for your comments and questions. So... Okay, I am very excited about this opportunity.
I think this is a great way for Pacific Power to show people how to do things using your electric vehicle. So, I think it will work well in the future.
Yes, it is very important. Then, your sign. Let me remind them that they don't need signs. Still, I think this is a great way to show them. We are lucky to be able to conduct a ceremony about the Pacific Power's sign. You know that they are signing the museum through these electric vehicles, right? Similarly, they will understand that you are signing the activities of the museum in rural communities. Then, you told us about the electric utility vehicle to clean the driveway, right? That's a snow plow. Yes, that's it. This is a small one. So, it won't clean our driveway. It will work on the steps, and we can make a brush.
Okay, yes.
As we all know in Central Otigan, a lot of snow and a lot of applications are required to remove it. But when the snow is very flat, this brush will remove it quickly. So it will not become ice blocks again.
Good. You can use electric vehicles to do more work. I am also an electric vehicle driver. During the winter, I feel that the battery is low due to the heat, but when it gets hotter during the summer, it comes back. So it is nice to experience different seasons. Yes, definitely. This helps to reduce noise pollution on site for animals and animals.
This is a very big advantage for us. Dana, I have a question.
Do you have a facility in the museum to produce your own medicine? Do you have solar panels or anything else there, Steve?
Yes, we have solar panels. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the first solar panels in Odigan were ours. I think that should be confirmed, but solar panels were installed in the Donker Museum, the founder of the museum. They do not provide energy for everything. But we have solar panels. We have also built free charging stations for passengers, residents and these utility vehicles. Good. The fact that you are producing electricity and using electric vehicles helps to show people that diversity can be brought forward.
That's a good thing. I have an idea.
You know that the grant for buying a vehicle makes it a very profitable and attractive option, right? But after buying a vehicle, do you have any idea whether the cost of managing or operating an electric vehicle or an electric utility vehicle is high or low?
Petrol or diesel vehicles? That's a great question. But it's only been about three years since I bought an electric vehicle, so I'm not sure if we have enough information. We have a Kia next to us. We are looking for another Kia passenger vehicle for this school trip. It took a little time. There is a small cultural change in what people are learning how to use electric vehicles. So it was nice for us to give our people a lesson and make it easy for them to use it. Anyway, I'll let you know later. Our facility is a big fan of electric vehicles, so I will say that this is a good thing and that the cost is low. But as you all know, charging is a problem in rural areas. So if we are traveling to Fort Rocky, we have to charge vehicles to come back, or if it is a night trip, it becomes a small problem. That's why we are learning how to do it. That's why I am calculating it as a cost. This is like an extra support. Will you have to stop charging? How fast are the vehicles to return to the museum being charged? Anyway, Commissioner, I will talk about this later. About what? That's why there is no change in my opinion about this knife. I just wanted to know one thing.
Because it may change as a part of the difference you give about electric vehicles. Yes.
In the beginning, the cost may be high, but especially in times like these, there are some practical reasons to use different types of vehicles in the increasing price range.
Yes, yes, yes, I fully agree. When I go to meetings in the city, my four runners are chosen by EV and EV. Yes, that's right. Do you have any other questions? I would like to know how much energy your solar panels generate. Does it cover the entire museum? No, it doesn't cover the entire museum. Commissioner, I will tell you later about the kilowatts that we get from our old solar panels. The big development we are doing will be in line with solar. The new part according to the budget will be operated using solar. Thank you.
I agree with Pindu's request for the Pacific Power Electric Mobility Grant from the Hyde Circus Museum. Second, Pramayam has expressed his support. Is there any further discussion? Let's move on to the voting. Yes. Yes.
Your request has all kinds of expectations.
Thank you. I will come back with answers to your questions. Thank you for that. Everyone, take care. Thank you very much. This is the letter. We are signing it right now.
Yes, I have brought a new copy because the deadline is very close.
I would like to thank our strategic initiative manager, Jen Patterson, who worked very quickly to make this possible as a chair. So, thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Now, let's move on to the second part of our agenda. The work session for the two public hearings of the Willetts LLC and Derrick Farrow LLC, and the Saun Mata Association LLC.
Good afternoon. Thank you. My name is Karolin House. I am the senior planner of the planning division here. I have come here to give details and questions to the two hearings that are taking place on Wednesday. These meetings are taking place at two different points in the urban development of our sister city. I have made the final adjustments to my agenda. The first one shows the location of the city development project. The second one shows the location of the city development project. The second one shows the location of the city development project. The second one shows the location of the city development project. The second one shows the location of the city development project. Each application requires a separate plan. That is, to transfer the label from Kashi to Gramina to Meghalaya, and from EFU Exclusive Farm Use to Multiple Use Agricultural. We had two hearings in front of a hearing officer on the same day. The decisions were made at the same time. So we followed the procedure carefully. Among the two applications, only one person showed interest. Definitely, these items will be touched separately.
Yes.
In the hearing of the officer, each officer was seen as a Goal 3 officer, i.e. according to the requirements of the land, these items are not protected according to the land or the target. Then there are the Goal 5 officers, i.e. the wonderful requirements that we discussed with the last branch LLC. They each had their own unique item. The reason for Shubharshi to fulfill this request is because of Goal 14. Goal 14 is related to urban development. The Luba Land Board of Appeals and other bodies have found that the county is responsible for ensuring that urban use is not allowed in such requests in rural areas. Therefore, there are two parts that I would like to talk about in the hearing of the officer. First, the county's plan policy 3.3.1 is related. You have all heard this before. Here is the difference between the 10 acres of land and the MUA 10 zone. This is a part of the cluster plant unit development and provides small plots. As a result, the re-establishment of the COMP plan in 2040 has become a problem. That plan has not been approved yet, so we are still working under the 2011 policy 3.3.1. So the experts need to find out how to handle this problem. The hearing officer replied that the second issue is related to the call for a similar decision to be made by a representative of a different authority. When it comes to the question of whether municipal uses are allowed through the change in this plan, many questions arise. The hearing officer and the lobbyist who discussed this issue with the Urban Growth Boundary are in a position to develop the new plan and zone accordingly. So let me say it again, it does not allow urban use. The terms and conditions of the services to be given are in line with the Urban Growth Boundary. So these things have not been discussed in the actual discussion. One of the reasons for this was the hearing officer's decision to cancel the hearing. It was another county decision that had reached the court. His decision was the main reason for canceling the hearing. It came out when the record was closed, so it did not get time to respond to the requesters. Therefore, new things are coming when this Avalokanam takes place. Therefore, on Wednesday, before the hearing, the candidates are part of their ranks, and most of the things that show that their candidates are according to Goal 14 have been submitted. Therefore, on Wednesday, they will fully express their opinions.
Therefore, I have often been in such a situation where I am sure that I have received the latest information. I remember one thing that happened before a few meetings. He said that 10 things had come that night. I did not pay attention to it before the board meeting. Therefore, I was sitting there without the latest information. So, what is the best way for me to make sure? That is, keep an eye on it online.
Yes, I am ready to let you know how many comments you have received or to send them to you. All the commissioners will be able to know that.
Okay, but the problem is not when it should be done. When I was in the board meeting, someone said, those 10 things that came that night, I don't think I should investigate those 10 things. So, when should I pay attention to that?
I think we are in a problem of misconduct. Because new things will come until the record is closed. So, until the hearing is over, the record will not be closed. So, please send me emails. When you are doing that. to the board during our hearing.
That's why I thought we should use the electronic permit in real time. We have thought of a way to share our opinions.
There have been some technical difficulties, but I can discuss this with Antony and our planning manager to make it easier. But now, we have to use the email permit. After that, we have to upload it to our electronic permit. Yes, I'm not asking too much. I have to prepare well. So, Yes, yes, Stephanie Marshall, Senior Assistant to Legal Counsel, and many more questions. Because the doors are open until the hearing is over, there are no other ways to avoid opinions coming in between the hearing or before the hearing. Yes, yes. So, to be honest, my most important advice. Oh, great things.
I used to say that I have never had such a situation. Suddenly, we know, don't we? Which sword are we talking about? Yes, yes, yes. It can become a problem in the coming months because of so many expectations. This is an open system. So, whenever... Right. When we start a public hearing, we think of it as an open hearing. At the same time, we feel that we are talking about different things. Forgive me. The reason is what I said. I forgot the time. It must be time to give your opinions. Yes. Yes. I don't know.
You ask your opinions within 10 days of our notice. But we can accept it because the hearings are open after that. This is what I can think of. That's why the hearing officers have the same problem. That's why I've always felt comfort. Okay, I have some information. Maybe something else is coming. That's a fact. We know.
But I don't know about this. Maybe this. It's a little different. I don't know.
My binder ends on the 24th of last Monday. I appreciate that. Yes, I have included it in my calendar to print everything together. I think I got 45 reviews last week. I uploaded 20 of them to our system this morning. Of course, this is worth it. Yes, I can say that there are about 65 reviews now. Yes, I have received more than 300 reviews for the hearing officer's presentation. Some of them were like a poem letter, but if you look closely, you can see some of them are very personal. That's why it's very important. I can assure you that there is a lot of new information available when I publish it.
I'll show it from my laptop. When I publish my staff report, I can make it clear in the beginning about how much time has passed and how much time has passed.
Or about the last 24 hours and what situation we are in. Definitely.
Each commissioner can say that they have reviewed all the comments they received by 5 p.m. last night. That's one suggestion. That's all. Yes, that's a good point. Yes, so let's start from the beginning.
Yes, we know that the comments are still coming, but hearing officers always do that. I didn't feel the need for it.
There's a lot of interest in this.
Yes, yes.
Things can be sent directly to us, CC can be done, and it can also be included in the record. So there are many ways to include it in the record.
Yes, make sure that I have it forwarded to me to add it to the record.
That has happened before. It will be sent to three commissioners, and then I can forward it. Yes, definitely. Yes. Okay.
I have some things to ask and need. First of all, it was good to see an area that was connected to the surrounding areas of these properties. The maps we need are very helpful in understanding the proximity to the county. But MUA, MUA, EFU, EFU, whatever it is, will help us to understand about the nearby forests. So we will get an idea about that area. You can look a little further from these properties. Is there any particular distance? The reason is that we can only do that. Um. Um. Nyan.
Half a mile. Okay. I will say one mile because the properties there are great. We need at least one mile to get anything right. Okay. That would be good.
Let's see a picture of half a mile. You know, if you take a letter the size of a sea, it will show a lot to one side, but it is very little to the other side. Yes. I had a question. Yes. I had a question. Law. I want to ask about the financial use of water in exemptions. I know this is a water-related question. But the court of law. I believe that the Legislative Assembly has allowed people to use the water in their exemptions for financial purposes. It wasn't like that before. It was not allowed to use the water in the exemptions for the use of land or for the use of houses. But now, I believe that it is allowed to use the water in the exemptions for financial purposes on a small land. This would be bad for MUA 10 properties. Therefore, it would have been better if we could make it clear before the hearing that these properties are allowed to use water in all kinds of ways. Now, I have to ask you about the water resources of the city or about the places where they water. Purified groundwater. I need to understand if they are farming or gardening. I know that they are not farming. But if they are using water to grow trees, it can be considered a gardening. Or they will get water. Very early on, they tend to use it as an excuse, because they are interested in erasing it. Understanding it will also be helpful. However, erasing is currently happening through trees and plants. That is, it is not a water source for the water supply of the two cities. However, I know of other places where malina water can be used to grow trees. In my opinion, it is a need for a water supply or irrigation. Sherry. Another question. When you wrote the staff memo, 300 letters or opinions were submitted in opposition, right? Um, I would like to know how many stations have been blocked, or if any response has come from the public by blocking these stations. I can give you an answer for that now.
Um, I don't have an exact number, but when I was preparing my PowerPoint, there was a slide in it when I was examining it. So, the area to the north is a dead end for them. It is a kind of air-conditioning. In the past, it was part of a large ranch property, but they have rebuilt it as a suburb. And, they have raised their opinions with the request of Willets. And then, they have also expressed their opinions on Lacey said ranch, but he was absent. It must be John Herman. And, I thought his opinions were very pleasant, because he is a vanjibaram. Matery, mattery, yes, yes, it is related to his own agricultural needs. Therefore, it has been accepted that his own financial needs are being used. He has made clear opinions on how these demands will affect his actions. It is a very important testimony. They can carry out their duties in the ranch, but remember that marriages cannot be carried out. Yes. Yes, I will go back and read it.
I am particularly interested in the opinions of John Herman, because he is not the same person in that area, but has used ranching methods that have been revived within a very short period of time to make the soil different. He is an example of a great change in the soil of his own. I once went there for a field trip, or as part of a tour. He showed us charts of changes in soil quality. However, I will definitely and thoroughly review those opinions. I would like to point out that Jaros researchers have tried to recreate agriculture.
Therefore, I will definitely review their materials, because there is a detailed story about why they tried to do it from the part of the Jaros property and why it did not succeed. Then what is said in the letter given by their interpreter is very interesting. Even if the object has the ability to sleep, it does not have the ability to drink water. Even if it uses water, it can only pump 543 gallons of water a week. As far as I am concerned, it is very strange. I think this number is where they got it from. You know, if you are getting 25 gallons of water per minute from your bed, does that mean you are drinking 22 hours a week? Anyway, it felt like a strange number. What did he mean by that? Anyway, I would like to make one thing clear in that opinion.
That's not a big amount.
That is, it's not even a fraction. Yes, I know some people. They have a landscape that they fill in half, and they pump it from the inside out for a few weeks. For the landscape, it's only 2000 gallons of water. That's why this was a strange instrument to play the flute, because it's not a big amount of water. A normal house can use 200, 300, 400 gallons. Aha! This is not really clear. There is one more thing that I would like to try to understand. We should not talk about claims. But in the hearing on the claims of Dickey Road and Soane, there was a big discussion about the goal 14 and the clustering issue of the COMP plan. That is different from this. Is there anything special about this property, or the fact that it does not have a clustering system that controls the facilities in this area? Is there anything different about this property compared to Dickey Road?
Before I came here, I was trying to figure it out myself. One thing I noticed was that the Dickey Road property does not belong to the City Development Authority. Both the decisions made by the hearing officer and the decisions made by the Curry County test were different. It was not different for Dickey Road. How much does this affect the issues? Everyone is going to debate about it. But that was the only difference I saw. Still, I have to ask Stephanie whether you know the other difference between Dickey Road and Tamil. Um, Commissioner Chang, I don't know if this is the right thing to do after you started your presentation. You know, right? So let me briefly say that each request is decided according to its merit. Yes. Questions I have a question. In these emails, Jamie McFarland is on top of each page. I was surprised about that. But she comes from other people. If you ask how our Outlook system works, when you go to print something, the name of the person whose Outlook is printed in the inbox will be printed. So Jamie is our executive assistant. So that's it. That's why they all see his name on the top. I know. I felt a little surprised. But I was sure that there was a reason for it. That's it. I don't know why it works that way when it is printed through Outlook. But that's it.
Yes.
Thank you. I would also like it if it could be changed. Yes. He has nothing to do with this apocalypse, right? That's why. Yes. Why is his name on the cover? That is, I asked. There are no more questions. I'll see you on Wednesday. Okay. I'll add all of them to my list of things to do. Then I wanted to ask you, when do you want the script? Do you want it or a copy? Okay. Thank you.
That's why we don't have an executive session. Is there anything else in this meeting? One person is behaving badly.
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