Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Sure, Supervisor Bellucci. Present. Supervisor Corrado.

Here.

Supervisor Myers.

Here.

Supervisor Ballard.

Here.

And Supervisor Zamuda.

Here.

We have five present this evening.

Thank you, Mr. Jackson. Before we start, I have a couple comments to read here. The board met in executive session prior to the start of this public meeting. Let me see, I want to turn that on. During this confidential session, board members addressed and reviewed topics concerning legal matters, personnel issues, and land related concerns. These discussions were conducted to ensure that sensitive subjects were handled with the appropriate level of privacy and attention. I would like to remind all present that in accordance with the township policy, every public meeting is tape recorded. Notices of this procedure are displayed within the meeting room. The purpose of this recording is to produce accurate minutes and to ensure that all comments made during the meeting are thoroughly documented. In addition to audio recording, we have recently begun live streaming these proceedings, providing broader access and transparency to the community. For the benefit of the record, please speak directly into the microphone, sharing your full name and address so that your remarks are captured clearly. Each participant has three minutes to provide comments. If additional time is needed, it may be granted at the discretion of the chairman. All right, that being said, it's time for the first public comment session. Please step to the podium.

Good evening. My name is Deb Haken. I live at 2105 Sand Hill Road, Hershey, Pennsylvania. And tonight I bring a testimonial written by my neighbor and friend who is a legal immigrant from a country in Africa and is a physician at the Hershey Medical Center. I'm reading this to give you in his own words, what he is facing in this environment today. And it's three paragraphs. I hope I don't go over my three minutes, but if you'll.

I'll let you know.

Okay, thank you. These are his words. Providing healthcare to human beings requires a high level of skills, compassion, and peace of mind. Building and maintaining such skills usually is through lengthy training. Physicians play a major role in the healthcare system and more generally in the wellbeing of communities, cities, and our country. They are in high demand globally. Many choose to come to the US for various reasons, despite having to go through a rigorous and intellectually demanding process. Perhaps the most important reason is the idea of being a doctor in a place where freedom resonates at every level. Patients are free to choose their hospital and to a greater extent their physicians. They are free to drive to healthcare facilities. Doctors and other healthcare professionals enjoy the freedom and peace of mind required to provide the best care possible in an environment where they feel no threat. This freedom is rare in many places around the world. This is precisely the reason why I moved to this country. I had practiced in my country of origin and in Europe for several years, yet I chose to come to this country lifted by the idea that I could serve the people of America and be recognized for my talents without having to justify my origins. The current crackdown on immigration by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement is an unprecedented strain on the healthcare system and the communities that rely on it. It is at odds with that exact core value at the origin of my decision to immigrate to this country and arguably of many other healthcare professionals born outside of the country. I have seen immigrant populations withdraw from routine care in my specialty. The type of care I provide is very specialized and missing appointments usually means missing taking medications and ending up in emergency rooms for illness that could have been managed earlier and less expensively. I have personally had to make difficult decisions regarding my patients, such as switching a regular inpatient visit to a phone call when patients expressed to me that they feared being arrested in the hospital. Aggressive enforcement policy and even the perception of a hostile immigration climate substantially impacts my commute and I have to travel with my passport to the hospital. Parentheses, he is a legal citizen. Although it has not happened yet, I constantly fear being physically abused by ICE even if I show them my passport. The idea that one can be arrested on one's that on the basis of one's physical appearance or for speaking English as a second language is a chilling one. Just as many physicians, I have considered relocating outside of the country in a safer haven where I would feel valued for my talents and the service I provide for the community I live in. Caring for individuals and being constantly reminded by ICE that you may not belong to the community is extremely uncomfortable. Our peaceful community in Hershey deserves to maintain and grow its healthcare force. I would like to continue caring for my patients and continue to contribute to the wellbeing of our community. That's his testimony. And I have a copy of that.

If you call one, a copy of that would be fine. Thank you.

Oh,

Rich Gamble, Derry Township, Hawkinsville Road, Hershey. I guess this is a rebuttal. I appreciate the people that come here and want to serve our township as well as our country. But looking at the total picture, if somebody's afraid to come into this town, why? Did they do something wrong? Are they illegal? You know, follow the rules. If I'm going down the road and I'm speeding, he's going to pull me over. I'm going to get a ticket. He's not going to say, well, you're rich. You've been here for a while. Don't count. Not to mention the financial burden on a lot of the immigrants that are here are getting free health care. Now, can our hospitals maintain giving away health care like this? I don't think so. So I think when we take a look at this crying out for the immigrant, and I'm speaking for the legal immigrants, they should be nothing keeping them from doing what they do in everyday life. Going back to the 30s and the 20s, the Italians, they migrated here. Look what they provided to us. You know, nobody's against the Italians. The Jewish people, nobody's against them. Nobody's against the people that follow the rules. And that's all we're asking. So when they want to get up here and have testimonials, have them come in here themselves. Let them face us and let us hear directly from them. If they're legal, they have every right. We have freedom of speech. So instead of hearing other people coming in that work for the medical center, bring the people here and have them say what they're feeling. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Gamble. Anybody else?

Good evening. My name is Janice Regan, and I live at University Manor East Hershey, Pennsylvania. I want to talk about a rule I believe this township should put in writing and why writing it down matters at all. The rule concerns immigration detainers. A detainer is a form from a federal immigration agent signed by no judge asking local police to keep holding someone who would otherwise be free to go. Here's what it looks like when it goes wrong. In 2008, a construction worker named Ernesto Glazera was arrested in Allentown on charges a jury later acquitted him of. He was a United States citizen born in New Jersey with his ID in his wallet. He posted bail, but because of an ICE detainer, he spent three more days in jail. The federal appeals court that covers Pennsylvania ruled that detainers are requests, not commands. No local government has to honor one and that because honoring one is a choice, a local government that does so can be held liable for the detention that follows. The county, because of that, the county paid him $95,000 and the case did not stop at the county. The city of Allentown and one of its police detectives paid $25,000 for their part in it. And the chain off began with the city detectives tip to ice. Now, Derry Township does not run a jail, but our officers make arrests, run names through databases, hold people at the station, and transport them for county booking. The Fourth Amendment does not check which level of government is holding you. A written township policy should apply the rule that to the custody that the township actually has. No stop prolonged, no one being held or handed over on a form no judge has signed. Writing it down is the point. Practice lives in habits and personnel. Chiefs retire, boards turn over, and an unwritten practice can change without anyone voting. Putting it in a resolution makes the rule public and durable, gives officers a clear answer in the moment, and protects taxpayers from paying a mistake when someone is here legally and improperly detained and has not committed a crime. Lehigh County wrote down its rule after a lawsuit. We can write down ours before one. I ask the board to put this in writing by resolution. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ms. Regan.

Good evening members of the board. My name is Michelle Godfrey. I live on Jill Drive in Hummelstown and I'm a Derry Township resident. Before I begin, I want to thank the board for your previous consideration of seeking party status and for the time you took to research, discuss and carefully consider this issue. I appreciate that this was taken seriously. I'm here tonight to ask that the board put seeking party status regarding the proposed South Hanover Data Center back on the agenda and formally vote on a resolution expressing Derry Township's willingness to participate in the zoning board hearing process. I understand that the South Hanover zoning proceedings have been paused at the developer's request and the developer must provide 60 days notice before moving forward. I also understand that Derry Township removed party status from its agenda once the hearing was paused. However, the application has not gone away and neither have the potential impacts on Derry Township residents. In fact, I believe this pause gives Derry Township an opportunity to make its position clear before the developer decides to move forward. There are three important reasons I believe Dairy should take this step. First, it sends a message to the developer. It tells them that there's a neighboring municipality that is willing to show up, participate in the process and use its voice to advocate for residents who may be affected by this development. Second, it sends a message to our neighboring municipalities. South Hanover is currently working to strengthen its ordinance and increase protections for its residents. Derry Township can demonstrate that we are willing to stand alongside South Hanover and other surrounding communities when a development has the potential to affect all of us, regardless of municipal boundaries. And third, it sends a message to Derry Township residents. It demonstrates that our board is willing to be proactive rather than waiting until the hearing resumes and then trying to catch up. Seeking party status does not mean opposing development simply because it's development. It means Derry Township is willing to participate, ask questions, present evidence, and advocate for the interests of its residents. The developer may have paused the hearing, but the application remains active. We don't know when they will choose to resume the process. So I respectfully ask the Board to put seeking party status back on the agenda, adopt a resolution formally authorizing it, and make Derry Township's position clear. This is an opportunity for Derry Township to use its voice, not only for our own residents, but alongside the communities around us. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Godfrey. And we are putting that on our agenda for next month. Step forward and have your say.

Hello. This is Anthony Feudale. I'm at 1438 Stonecutter Circle in Hummelstown, Pennsylvania, and I am a Derry Township resident.

And what was your last name? I'm sorry.

Feudale. I can spell it if you need me to.

Oh, please.

F-E-U-D-A-L-E. It is Italian if you're curious.

Okay.

So I would just like to echo the sentiments given by Michelle. She said it more eloquently than I have. I would also like to put my hat in the ring and think as saying that the the board of supervisors should seek party status regarding the data upcoming data center. I know, as Michelle said, that is on pause, but now is just as good a time as any. There will be costs if this data center is built that will be borne by the people of Derry. And I think the least we can do is have our voices heard at that time. And I know you already said that it is going to be on the agenda, so I'm glad to hear it, but one more voice. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Fedeli. Anyone else? Seeing none, that closes. the first public comment session. Moving right onto our agenda. We have our consent calendar, five items. We can take them one at a time or as a aggregate. Do I hear a motion from my board?

I'll make a motion that we take the Board of Consent as a collective and approve all items. Thank you, Mr. Myers. Is there a second?

Second.

Oh, thank you, Mr. Corrado. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Consent calendar is approved as published. Moving on to our main new business here. Our first agenda item is a request to close North Hawkersville Road from Old West Chocolate Avenue to Hershey Park Drive from 11 p.m. on Thursday, October 8th to 6 p.m. on Friday, October 9th for the annual Antique Automobile Club of America.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All events of this nature which require state road closures must be approved by the Board of Supervisors. The annual AACA fall meet is scheduled for October 6th through the 9th this year on the grounds of Hershey Entertainment Complex. During the time period from October 8th through the 9th, an increase in pedestrian traffic will take place across North Hockersville Road, which will be a connection for two large areas of the event. For the safety of the participants and attendees, Hershey Entertainment Complex Safety and Security has requested the closure of North Hockersville Road. In addition, as part of the closure, they will place the appropriate road closure signs and barricades and will also staff each closure point. If this is approved, there will also be variable message boards placed on North Hockersville Road at least five days in advance of the event to warn motorists who routinely use this roadway that it's going to be shut down during this particular time.

Thanks, Chief. Are there any questions from this board? Seeing none, can I get a motion?

I move that we close North Hawkersville Road SR2011 from Old West Chocolate Avenue to Hershey Park Drive from 11 p.m. on Thursday, October 8th, 2026 to 6 p.m. on Friday, October 9th, 2026 for the annual Antique Automobile Club of America fall meet being held on the grounds of the Hershey Entertainment Complex and that be hereby approved.

Thank you, Mr. Bellucci. Is there a second? I'll second that motion. Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Our next order of business. Authorization to amend the Code of Ordinance of the Township of Derry at Chapter 210, Vehicles and Traffic, Section 210, TAC 40, parking of truck, tractors, trailers, motorhomes, buses, and certain other commercial vehicles prohibited in certain locations by amending Subsection B to include segments of Hillcrest Road, West Areva Avenue, West Granada Avenue, and West Caracas Avenue. Chief, you're up again.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. uh the police department and township feel the complaints over the last couple of months or more regarding certain vehicles parking along residential streets in the western end of the village area dairy township for an extended for extended periods of time some of these vehicles are commercial vehicles including but not limited to passenger buses and other types of commercial vehicles which are affiliated with patronage of hotels in that area some of these vehicles when parked along the street remain running This has created a quality of life issue for residents. The noise of the running engines can happen at all hours and has disturbed the peace of the nearby community. Exhaust fumes from the running engines have also become an issue. These large vehicles have also created sight distance issues for other motorists, bicyclists, and pedestrians driving, riding, or walking in these areas. There will be a kind of like a cutout or designated area for loading and unloading of passengers in front of the True Hotel where buses can stop, they can unload the passengers or collect their passengers in front of the hotel. A delivery truck that would be delivering goods or items to the hotel could also use this loading and unloading area in front of the hotel. They just wouldn't be permitted to park there for long periods of time. um the financial impact there will be a cost uh in the way of posting these uh this restriction um i know there was a little bit of consternation uh the last time we brought this up uh i estimated between 40 and 50 posted signs to properly post all the roadways for this restriction i'm estimating on the high side so there's no surprises or anything like that so it could be a little bit less than that um and the cost range would be between thirty two hundred to four thousand dollars for all these postings and like i said uh just just a minute ago that it could be a little bit less than that but uh i just wanted to uh to kind of estimate on the high side so there wouldn't be any surprises to the the board when uh we uh pay for the postings of these parking restrictions.

Thanks, Chief. Appreciate the new estimates.

Yeah.

Are there any questions from this board? Seeing none, is there a motion that would be made?

I move that we authorize to amend the code of ordinance at Chapter 210. 10, vehicles and traffic section 21040, parking of trucks, tractors, trailers, motorhomes, buses, and certain other commercial vehicles prohibited in certain locations by amending subsection B to include segments of Hillcrest Road, West Ariba Avenue, West Granada Avenue, and West Caracas Avenue.

Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Corrado. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Okay, our next order of business. Consider consideration of adoption of Resolution 2026-15, authorizing the sale and transfer of municipally owned property in accordance with the Pennsylvania Second Class Township Code. Chief, I should just hand this meeting over to you. This is yours.

No, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Police Department decommissioned patrol vehicles. Actually, this occurred in 2024 due to age, depreciation, and reduced functionality as public safety vehicles. On May 27, 2025, the Board of Supervisors approved the advertisement for public sale of those items. Specifically, what we're talking about here is a 2013 Harley-Davidson police motorcycle. They were listed for sale on authorization by the township on Unisabid, an online auction service, beginning on July 7th of 2025. And bids were accepted on July 28th, 2025. A total of 46 bids in that round were received, and a Brian Boucher, he offered the highest bid of $7,200. Several attempts were made to get in touch with Mr. Boucher, but he would not respond to any of those attempts, and eventually the sale was canceled. On July 23rd, 2026, the same motorcycle was rebid on municipal bid with the closing date of August 13th, 2026. A total of 34 bids were received for this motorcycle with Louis DiNicola offering the highest bid of $6,300. I was able to reach Mr. DiNicola and he is interested in completing the purchase if it's approved by the board tonight. The municipal bid auction specified that the highest bidder for the vehicle shall be responsible for all costs associated with the purchase and title transfer before the transfer of the motorcycle is executed. We're asking for that approval to complete that sale with Mr. DiNicola.

Thanks, Chief. Looks like Mr. DiNicola is going to get a little bit of a bargain. $900 off the original winning bid. Okay, are there any questions from this board? No questions. Seeing no questions, is there a motion?

I move that we adopt Resolution 202615, awarding the sale of the 2013 Harley-Davidson motorcycle bearing VIN number One HD1FMM15DB620056 to Louis DeNicola of Stoneboro, Pennsylvania for $6,300. Thank you, Ms. Ballard.

Is there a second?

Second.

Who is it? Is that you? It's me. Oh. Thank you, Mr. Belushi. It was so soft and quiet.

Just echoed.

Yeah, it echoed. Okay, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Okay, we're selling a motorcycle. You're welcome, Chief. Okay, and the last order of business on our agenda is the acceptance of financial security for the stormwater management plan for Pennsylvania American Water, 2 million gallon Hershey Reservoir, Reservoir Drive S2025-019. Leslie.

This plan was submitted to detail the design of stormwater management facilities for a new reservoir and paved access drive to Reservoir Drive. HRG reviewed the cost estimate and recommended that financial security in the amount of $607,476 be provided. The applicant has provided the security in the form of Travelers Casualty and Surety Company of American Bond. and has entered into the township standard agreement to provide financial security to guarantee completion of improvements required by the stormwater management site plan and report so i recommend that the board accepts the security and enters into the agreement as well thank you leslie well said okay are there any questions from this board seeing none is there a motion

I'll make a motion that the Board of Supervisors accept financial security in the amount of $607,476 in the form of Travelers Casualty and Surety Company of America bond number 108508172 and enters into an agreement to provide financial security with Pennsylvania American Water Company for the Stormwater Management Plan for Pennsylvania American Water 2 million gallon capacity Hershey Reservoir S 2025-019.

Thank you, Mr. Corrado. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Bellucci. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Okay, that concludes our agenda items for the evening. And we now have our board and department head reports. I'm going to start to my left here with Mr. Bellucci. We had a very long meeting this morning. I I'm counting on you to give a very detailed accounting of that. So lay back, sit back, relax. You're going to be here a while.

Go ahead. Bridge Road project is officially completed. There's paving projects, stormwater projects continuing throughout the township. And PennDOT has approved the Gateway Project down Cocoa and West Chocolate. And we're still getting waiting penned on approval for the Eastern Gateway portion of that project. That's it.

that three and a half hours distilled down to 30 seconds. I'm very impressed.

There was a lot of irrelevant discussion this morning.

I'm very impressed. Okay, thanks, Mr. Bolshevik. Mr. Corrado.

Quick DTMA report. High Meadow Pump Station, the sewer force main work is complete. Remaining work at the pump station is expected to be finished in the spring of 27. The Southwest plant, over 80% of that is complete and remains on schedule for May of 27 as well. A lot of stuff getting done in May. And the stormwater project, ridgewater drainage project, as Bruno said, is complete. And the July 4th and 5th DTM, excuse me, the July 4th and 5th storm management coordinator related to the damage that the Township EMC received. That's it.

Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Corrado, appreciate that. Ms. Ballard.

Yes, we had a library board meeting in July, and the end of July was also the start of the book sale, and it's always tremendous fun volunteering at the book sale. All the other volunteers are wonderful people, and I'm not going to put out the number, but I understand we have a very good number that was raised by the Friends of the library on behalf of the library. Also just want to shout out to the police for all their hard work. This is the beginning of the school year, believe it or not. So we are going to be seeing a lot more children on bicycles, walking, and even some of those less desirable modes of transit, those little scooter things that you see once in a while, but we should not see those. The school also does not want to see them on their campus, I understand. But the police have done a great job in our community, keeping our children safe. And I would just ask everyone to remember that as you're driving out and about in the community.

Mr. Myers.

I actually have nothing to report.

Wow. Okay. Thank you very much. And I was also at the transportation meeting this morning. with Mr. Belushi, but I will defer to his succinct accounting of that meeting. So I will pass on to the department heads now. Chief, you're up to bat.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The only thing I have is just kind of to go along with Supervisor Ballard's comments. School has started, so you'll see the officers in the school zones trying to slow traffic down. The speed feedback signs in the school zones obviously give a little bit added presence, letting people know how fast they're traveling through there. And I was able to talk with a couple of our traffic safety unit officers today. And one of their goals this year is to actually do some school bus enforcement with where they stop and are letting students off or picking students up as far as people passing the school bus. So they have all the routes, all the stops. at their disposal and you might see officers following school buses around and trying to prevent people from passing school buses while they have the lights activated and so forth it's going to be an effort of theirs this year to really concentrate on that outstanding outstanding library ms jacobine

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The costume swap drop off is continuing. So if you have costumes that are still in good wearable condition for kids and don't need them anymore, you can drop them off daily when the library is open through September 17th. And then on the 19th, if you've dropped off costumes, you get first crack at the costumes that we've collected to get new ones for your kids. or the costume swap is then open to the public from noon to 2. So people who dropped off costumes get first choice. We also have Lego Club on September 2nd at 4.30, and then Teen Time is every Thursday after school at 3 p.m. And I don't have the official number. I'm getting it at the meeting tomorrow, but I am understanding that we've raised over $40,000. Wow. They did very well.

Now you split that amongst the library staff, right?

If only.

Just yanking your chain. Looks like Parks and Rec took the day off. So we go to the Hershey Volunteer Fire Department. Dave.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A couple of things tonight. So we're one month away from the Super Bowl 20th anniversary. Just throw that out as a reminder. So you can get tickets early. You can get advanced tickets. There's also a VIP ticket that I believe is still available. Always looking for chefs. So anybody wants to go out to the partnerships website and click on the links and we welcome anybody who would like to participate in that. Also a little note for fire prevention. It is September, but it starts in October and we start to get a lot of requests to do fire prevention throughout for businesses and everything else. So there is a link on our website. We encourage everybody to go out. It's an easy signup process. Then we'll get in touch with them and set up some dates. So just a reminder for that. And then two more things. September is also National Preparedness Month. So each week there's a theme that comes out. We'll be putting some posts out for that too. So kind of like PDF literature also just as reminders. That is Americans Stand Ready is the theme from FEMA. So we look forward to doing that. And then lastly, last Thursday evening, some of you may know that York suffered a EF0 tornado. I, as a public information officer through South Central Task Force, was deployed to York and I supported their EOC for several hours.

So that's all I have for this evening.

Thanks, Dave. I want to share something with you real quick. You and I had a conversation about fire blankets a while ago.

Yes.

And this is not an advertisement, but Costco is selling two fire blankets for eight bucks, if anybody's interested.

Okay, they're well worth their time.

I know, I know.

I picked up a couple of boxes. Yeah. And they do work. They're great for cooking fires, stove fires.

Right, and that's a conversation we had.

Yeah. So just thought I'd share.

Yeah, for eight bucks for two? That's pretty good, pretty good.

Thank you.

Okay, let's see, what do we got left? Public works. So Greg couldn't deign us with his presence, huh? Not this evening. You'll do a fine job.

Okay. No report, Mr. Chairman.

Wow, that was easy. Okay, Eric.

Just one quick note tonight. Township had received a grant from PennDOT for traffic signal technologies funding, $553,450.

That money will go towards intersection upgrades at 10 signals, upgrading the technology, the detection, the controllers, and also tying those signals into PennDOT's Unified Command Control Center where they can remotely monitor the traffic signals, troubleshoot items and help with automatic timing improvements. Those funds do not require a municipal match. and anticipate that that would be constructed in 2028. So likely to design starting this year into next year, then bidding and construction 2028. This is kind of part two of a project. Last year, the township had received funds from the Greenlight Go program to do a number of signals The prior project is currently in design that was doing the entire Hershey Park Drive corridor and then four signals along 322. The current grant that we just received is to finish the 322 corridor. Also has the intersection of Cocoa and Fishburn and then also the 422 corridor.

The Cocoa and Fishburn one is the one that everybody's chomping at the bit for. Left turns. Is that it? Yep, that's it. Okay, thanks Eric.

Nothing to report? Oh, sorry.

I'm disappointed. I thought you'd at least, at least the truck would have given you something to report.

Yeah. One more thing that kind of sparked my, uh, my mind. Um, it's this Saturday is the last market of the year for downtown. Uh, the fire department was down there this last weekend bond, but the, you know, trying to get recruits and spreading the word. Uh, so that kind of sparked that memories reminder. So, um, I appreciate you participating.

Mr. Jackson, you're the last one.

No report from me.

Nothing from you either. Okay, that closes our department and head reports. I guess we have our second public comment session. Would anybody like to get up and...

I just want to rebuttal the rebuttal on the immigration.

Name and address. Sorry, we have to.

Michelle Godfrey, Jill Drive, Hummelstown, Derry Township resident. If ICE was operating within the constitution, we wouldn't have this issue. If ICE was operating without impunity, we wouldn't have this issue. We wouldn't be bringing this here. And so... it's people are being stopped whether or not they've done something wrong, whether or not they have the correct documentation, whether or not they're citizens, that doesn't seem to matter. And if people think that this organization ICE is operating within the law, within the constitution, I would question the source of information that they were getting.

Thank you, Ms. Godfrey. Anybody else?

Two things.

Is there any type of ordinance requiring off-street parking or parking availability? for people that are renting homes. Right now we're seeing a lot of homes that are being sold divided into two apartments and no off street parking. Is there any type of requirement that says you must provide some form of off street parking? I know when the house across the street from me was sold, it became a beauty shop. She was required to put in 10 parking spaces. Does that hold true when people take a home, split it in half, and provide parking.

Well, Mr. Gamble, I can't answer you right off the top of my head, but I'm sure the chief could be more than happy to help you.

Yes, there are parking requirements based on whatever the use is, depending on whether it's a single-family home or a duplex or if they're apartments based on the number of bedrooms. Short-term rentals have certain criteria, so there's different parking requirements depending on the use.

On my street, it was a one-time single-family home, and it got split off to an in-law apartment. after the lower bottom. But now I think there's three rentals in there. And on the average, I count five cars.

Okay, Mr. Gamble, why don't you let us close the meeting and you and Leslie can sit down.

Okay, the other thing I wanted to bring up was I'd like to officially invite Ms. Ryan to bring her people in and talk to us, let us know. And when we talk about but ICE does. Maybe the chief can give us an update on their participation of what things they've done, found to be accurate according to constitution, or are we having a problem within our own community of abusing our residents? Maybe we need some type of statistic, not just say ICE, ICE, ICE. Let's talk about who is involved. Just last week, There was a woman killed in Harrisburg by an illegal immigrant driving. Now, all I can say is we don't hear about it here in Hershey. Maybe they know enough to stay out of Hershey that we have a good rapport with our police, state, and federal. But again, I invite Ms. Ryan to bring her people in, let them talk about what they experienced, not second-handed information. Thank you.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Campbell.

Hello, I'll make it short and sweet. Thank you, Janice. I'm Janice Regan at University of Manor East Hershey, Pennsylvania. It is hard to bring people in because there is a fear for their safety. Just today I was on a conversation with folks who are trying to engage more speaking with between faith leaders and police chiefs in the area. And one of those things that came up was with our local Haitian churches where One pastor just had his AV person taken from ICE today. And in his community, he has multiple women who are scared of going to the police about domestic violence complaints for being brought under light where they might be taken by ICE, whether they're a citizen or not. Even if you are a citizen, that time that you are being taken and having to go through that is not delightful. But I think with our community, we know that we are safe. We have an excellent police department. And what we're asking is just to put this in writing. And that's why we've been bringing up a resolution and speaking for the folks who are not able to come for fear of safety. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ms. Regan. Anybody else? Seeing none, that closes our final public comment session. And do I have a motion for adjournment?

Motion to adjourn.

Thank you, Mr. Craig. Seconded. Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, motion carried. Meeting's adjourned. Have a nice evening, everybody.