Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, May 26, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Supervisors
Meeting Type
Board Of Supervisors
Location
Derry, PA
Meeting Date
May 26, 2026

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169 sections

0:14 – 0:5113

All right, good evening folks. It is two minutes after seven o'clock. This is the May 26th, 2026 iteration of the Derry Township Board of Supervisors meeting. Please all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Jackson, would you do the roll call, please? Sure.

0:525

Supervisor Bellucci.

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Present.

0:545

Supervisor Corrado. Here. Supervisor Myers.

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Supervisor Ballard.

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And Supervisor Zamuda.

1:0013

Yeah, I'm still here.

1:015

We have five present.

1:03 – 2:2813

Excellent. Thank you very much. All right. Well, let's see. I got some comments to read before we get started here. The board met in the executive session prior to the start of the public meeting. During this confidential session, board members addressed and reviewed topics concerning legal matters, personnel issues, and land related concerns. These discussions were conducted to ensure that the sensitive nature subjects were handled with the appropriate level of privacy and attention. I would also like to remind that all present in accordance with township policy, every public meeting is tape recorded. Notices of this procedure are displayed within the meeting room. The purpose of this recording is to produce accurate minutes and to ensure that all comments made during the meeting are thoroughly documented. In addition to audio recordings, we have recently begun live streaming these proceedings, providing a broader access and transparency to the community. For the benefit of the record, please speak directly into the microphone. sharing your full name and address so that your remarks are captured clearly. Each participant has three minutes to provide comments. If additional time is needed, it may be granted at the discretion of the chairman. All right, that opens our first session of public comment. Anybody wish to say something, please step up to the microphone.

2:34 – 3:1416

Rich Gamble, 39 Hockney Road, Hershey. I was hoping my call pro-immigrant this year tonight gave it a lot of thought. And I always say, if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk. So I encourage him to take a ride on the New York subway Walk Skyline View in Chicago or run the jogging path that Lincoln Riley ran and see if that's what they want in our community. Our police officers here have the responsibility of keeping us safe and using any force or any resource available at state, federal, and local. Thank you.

3:15 – 3:2813

Thank you, Mr. Gamble. Anyone else? Please step up. You don't have to raise your hand. You can just walk right up. We don't bite. Well, maybe he does.

3:28 – 6:4411

Hi, my name is Ginger Troxell. I actually don't live here. I live in Lebanon County. And I'm here because I am a school bus driver. And I have had two recently visits here bringing students to your town and have had... extremely horrible experiences. And I wish I had the time to tell you everything that happened. But a coworker of mine, I do want to share this with you, brought students up to the Giant Center a while back. And we are given ID tags. We've always been allowed to get into places without tickets or whatever. We have our ID badges. And he went up to get in. I forget what he brought the children up for. And the gentleman at the door said, you needed a ticket. And he said, I just wanted to go in and use the restroom and grab something to eat. I'll go back out to my bus and I'll sit there and wait. And I hate to say this at the microphone, but the words he used were, go piss on a tree. That's how the Giant Center people treated him. And I recently had some very negative experience. First of all, there's no signage on this side of the railroad bridge. I was in Hershey and my bus has a strobe light. So I wasn't sure if I could get under because I was going to go over that way back to the bus. the outlets and there was no signage on that side. So I didn't know if I could get under it. So I just turned around in Staples and came back, but I dealt with a very, very not nice person in a security guard who kicked me out of the Giants or I'm sorry, the The outlets saying they're not zoned for buses and I'm not allowed to park there. And I said, well, where am I supposed to go park? And he's like, well, go park at Red Robin or something. And he was very rude. And I said, well, OK, can I just I just want to use the ladies room and I'll get out of here. And he goes, you've been here all this time and now you need to use the ladies room. I said, are you seriously going to tell an old lady I'm not allowed to use the ladies room here? And he was fuming and he said, you need to get out of here. He was so rude. And then I recently also, and I only have three minutes, I'm trying to hurry. We brought kids up to the Zoo America and the gardens and There used to be parking on that back road. There's only three bus parking spaces now. And nobody's using that bus unloading thing because nobody wants the kids. I know we're not crossing the road, but they weren't dropped off in the parking lot. So there's like 10 buses were squeezed in that parking lot, dropping off at Zoo America. And then, of course, we're kicked out. We have to leave. So my coworker and I came back and we parked in this, there was two parking spaces. So we walked down to go into Zoo America And they again said we needed tickets. And I said, we never needed tickets before. And they go, oh, it started two years ago. And that's just how it is because you need a ticket for everything.

6:4413

Ms. Trostle, can I suggest that it didn't sound like any of the issues that you were mentioning are township issues.

6:52 – 7:2311

I know, but I was hoping you could talk to the local, your businesses is what I was getting at. I'm sorry. I just was hoping you have more power than I do. I'm just a bus driver. We have no power. And I didn't know if you could have a conversation with some of your local businesses that would be more welcoming. And I'm really concerned about the, there's no parking for buses in Hershey. And it's very, it's very unwelcoming for us. And it's getting to a point where we don't, nobody wants to do the field trips anymore. So I know you're busy.

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I'm sorry for your. Inconvenience.

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I just don't know that you guys knew what we're going through. And I thought if somebody doesn't tell you, you can't help fix it. So I don't know if you can help fix it or not.

7:3413

If we have the opportunity, we'll say something.

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Thank you for your time.

7:37 – 8:0713

Thank you. Anybody else want to step up to the mic? Seeing nobody wants to step up. That closes our first public comment session. That brings us to our first agenda item, which is a consent calendar. We can adopt this all at once or one at a time. Are there any questions or concerns about it, first of all? Hearing none, do I hear a motion?

8:0910

I move that the Board of Supervisors adopt the consent calendar as a whole.

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Is there a second?

8:1710

Second.

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All those in favor?

8:21 – 8:3613

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Consent calendar as printed is approved. All righty. That brings us to our first agenda. Our first major agenda item was the final subdivision land development plan for Hershey West End. Mr. Emmerich.

8:38 – 16:5417

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Having already obtained approval for the second revised conditional use application for the master plan for Hershey West End, we have before us this evening the final plan for Phase J, actually revised final plan. The prior approval approved final plan for Phase J was conditionally approved by the Board of Supervisors December 6 of 2022, which approval has been extended up to June 22 of 2026. Phase J focuses on approximately 12 acres of the 245-acre Hershey West End site. Much of the streets and infrastructure surrounding Phase J was approved under Plat 1330, which was the final lot consolidation and land development plan for Hershey West End streets and infrastructure phase. That plan was recorded on November 9th, 2021. Most if not all of the improvements under that plan have been installed. The project is located within the township's planned campus west zoning district. The land is also subject to the overlay requirements of the community heritage buffer along 322 and the planned campus west future development overlay. Existing development on the east side of the site consists of the Englewood Roasting Company, Hershey Center for Applied Research, You Grow Early Childhood Learning Center, including the McQuaid-Blasco Law Offices, Englewood Hershey, expanded parking for a future medical building, and the newly opened Hershey Inn and Suites. This present application for Plan J proposes the development of 52 apartment units, which were formerly shown as 336 apartment units, and 90 townhome units, which was formerly shown as 12 townhome units. The entire project is still anticipated to be developed over a period of approximately 12 years and is expected to include multiple phases of approval, The zoning ordinance allows a master plan approval to span for seven years with an optional five-year term, which was granted under the conditional use. The project will be served by public water and sanitary sewer facilities. DTMA and Pennsylvania American Water have both indicated that adequate capacity exists. It's understood that an offsite sewer pump station at High Meadow upgrade is necessary and that's presently under construction. Property is currently subject to a declaration of condominiums based on the prior development and improvements that already exist on the site. All common elements and limited common elements are to be maintained by the Condominium Association unless dedicated or otherwise provided for in the declaration of condominium. West End Avenue was previously dedicated as a public street. The other streets as well as public utilities will be offered for public dedication and therefore will be controlled by the township or the agency overseeing the utility. I guess I'll point out that Ironstone Alley, Clearwater Alley, Mill Race Alley, Limestone Alley, Fieldstone Alley, Springhouse Alley, and Orchard Alley are all proposed to remain private in this phase. The developer has provided a letter of consistency from Urban Design Associates, who acts as the design review board for the Hershey West End. which concludes based on this review, the proposed phase J final subdivision and land development plan is consistent with the intent principles and standards outlined in the West End pattern book. Within the master plan process, certain requirements of the zoning and subdivision and land development ordinances are made more flexible for the purpose of enabling ingenuity and creativity in the plan and layout. Those alterations approved as part of the conditional use application number 2018-01 and conditional use application 2022-01 approvals are listed in my staff comments and they relate to front setbacks, rear setbacks, shared parking and maximum height of buildings. Likewise, under the subdivision and land development ordinance, certain waivers have been previously granted. And those again are listed as items one through 12 in my staff comments. The latest master plan approval modified two of the items of the prior approvals. one relating to centerline separations at intersections with minor streets, and one relating to centerline separations at intersections with collector streets. The applicant is proposing to utilize the shared parking provisions of the zoning ordinance for this use. However, they are excluding the U-Grow facility, Englewood Roasting Company, and the single family dwellings. Each of those users will provide their own parking. According to the parking schedule, the total parking spaces required for the shared parking analysis is 9,728 parking spaces. The shared parking analysis reduces that required minimum to 7,807 parking spaces. The applicant is providing, as each of the phases finish out, 9,677 off-street parking spaces and approximately 1,000 on-street parking spaces. The original conditional use application, 2018-01, included a pattern book, which in some ways is enforced as zoning. Pattern book makes some provisions for future land uses, namely accessory dwelling units, which are only permitted by special exception under the zoning ordinance. Therefore, if any of the accessory units are proposed in the future, the applicant will need to seek that approval from the zoning hearing board. Traffic studies were provided as part of the conditional use approvals. The traffic study narrative noted that two traffic studies are proposed for this development. The phase one traffic study, which was submitted with the original conditional use approval focused on the impacts of traffic phase one, which is different than development phase one. The phase two traffic study will consider the operation of the traffic improvements installed as recommended by the phase one study. and the actual traffic generated by what has been constructed thus far. And PennDOT, HRG, and township staff have all agreed to this approach. This present plan is requesting some additional waivers of the subdivision and land development ordinance. They're requesting a waiver to allow some of the streets of the project to be depicted, I'm sorry, some of the sheets, not streets, of the project to be depicted at a scale of less than one inch equals 50 feet. They're asking to allow less than 50 feet of the surrounding features to be shown on the proposed project site. They're asking for less than 50 feet of the surrounding contours to be shown on the proposed project site. They're requesting a waiver from showing profiles of the existing utilities in West End Avenue and adjacent uses except as necessary for tie-in information for connections. They're requesting relief regarding the centerline separation at intersections with collector streets. In each of those cases, the Planning Commission has recommended that the waiver be granted. If the board desires to approve Plat 1420, the approval should be conditioned upon the 19 items listed in my staff comments. The applicant is here tonight if anybody has any questions for them. Otherwise, that concludes my report.

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Thank you, Mr. Emmerich. Appreciate that. And you are the applicant. Good evening. Thank you for stepping up.

17:04 – 20:2912

My name is Joe McMullen. I am the Director of Real Estate for Milton Hershey School. I'd like to start by thanking Derry Township Board of Supervisors for their support and partnership throughout the process of the Hershey-Weston approval. I'd also like to recognize the importance of tonight's milestone and final improvement movement. As we've committed to creating a project made for the community and by the community, We are also prideful in maintaining Milton S. Hershey's original vision and long-term plan for Hershey PA. The Hershey West End project improved because of community collaboration. This would not be possible if it was not for the involvement and feedback of residents, stakeholders, business owners, and township leaders. Hershey West End has been planned for eight years as a mixed-use development. Milton Hershey School assumed stewardship of Hershey West End in June, 2025, because the residential component of the project was delayed significantly and needed to move forward for the community. Currently, progress tracks with what was shared in December and is what the community expects. A plan to reflect Milton S. Hershey's vision and provides a welcoming place to live, work, and dine in a modern era. Key improvements to Hershey West End Phase J updated plan include reduced density from 625 units to around 250 homes and townhomes, a focus towards home ownership and long-term community stability, additional green space, trails for walking and biking, and gathering areas, improved connectivity, and overall quality of life. Additionally, last month, Hershey Entertainment and Resorts opened the brand new Hershey Inn and Suites. The amount of pedestrian traffic already has set a great tone for the community fabric at the West End. Conditional use approval for Phase J was granted by the Board of Supervisors on December 9th, 2025. Tonight's final vote represents the final step before groundbreaking for Phase J. Ahead of tonight's vote, to Mr. Emmerich's point, we were asked to address a few key conditions required for full approval as laid out in the December 2025 conditional use approval decision. Our development team here tonight has worked diligently to address all of these items. And as such, all conditions are reflected in the plan that is before you for approval tonight. In closing, I want to again thank the Derry Township Board of Supervisors for its support and helping us reach this final plan of approval tonight. We are excited about what's ahead and committed to continuing this work together. This project has been shaped by the community collaboration that exists in Hershey and truly reflects Milton S. Hershey's vision. On behalf of Milton Hershey School, thank you to everyone who shared inputs, ideas, and support along the way. Because of you, we're ready to finally move forward, break ground on phase J, and create a space that will serve and bring our community together for years to come. Mr. Hershey would be so proud to see what we have achieved today together as a community that loves Hershey, PA. Thank you.

20:29 – 20:4813

Thank you, Mr. McMullen. Anybody else have anything to say? No? Okay. I know one of our colleagues has a few comments to ask, so. And questions, Rob, do you want to wait till the end and I'll see if anybody else wants that. Okay.

20:482

I have a quick question as well.

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Go ahead.

20:51 – 21:082

After reviewing the plan and the enhancements that have been made, has there been any consideration given for a dog park or a dog park area as part of the community involvement, those that have dogs? I didn't mean to interrupt.

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Bill Fredericks, RGS, civil engineer for the project. There is a dog park right there. It's got the small one and the large one, and then the connection to the Jonathan Eschenauer Trail. Terrific.

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And can I just follow up by asking, and that dog park will be open to the public, not just to residents? That's correct. Thank you.

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Thank you. And to follow up on that, I'm against dog parks, but you, AG&R, or the trust will be assuming all liability. The HOA is going to assume all. Okay. All right. Thank you. Is that all your questions? Yes. No questions. Rob, your turn.

21:57 – 22:2010

Well, I think I have some more questions. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. I received some comments and questions from residents, as you can imagine. And one question was whether there was an infrastructure grant or funding or other financing received that will now potentially be lost due to the reduction in density.

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No, not to my knowledge.

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Okay. And the other thing, if you could go over again, the numbers, because on Chuck's report, we had the numbers given of 336 apartments reduced now to only 52. And unfortunately, 12 townhouses, well, that's actually increased to 90. So to me, the numbers sound like 348 units reduced down to unfortunately now only 142 units. But yet I heard a number of 625. So-

22:59 – 23:153

That is for all of the residential, the numbers that Joe gave us for all of the residential within the entire community. Phase J is one of three or four phases that will have residential development.

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So the phase J, phase K, I believe phase M will have residential development, which will give you the numbers that Joe mentioned.

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But the numbers I referred to are correct for J.

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The numbers you're referring to is correct as to what phase J was in the land development plan that was approved four years ago. And what is now to be approved based upon the amendment to the master plan that occurred in December.

23:54 – 24:3810

And several community members have expressed to me their very serious disappointment that we have lost that opportunity for density, but yet you are paving over a field but not getting the benefit of a denser, more affordable rental units. And still we're going to lose our field. And all that field will be placed by roads that you might build, but we have to take care of for the rest of the year. So that expense used to be spread over 348 units, and now that same expense is only 142 units. So it doesn't...

24:45 – 25:333

make it makes a greater burden on our fire our police our roads our sewers proportionally and yet we're getting not as many units so i'm expressing my frustration and that that's understood i think there's there was uh a lot of considerations taken into account uh as to uh preferences of development preferences of ownership preferences of sizes and scale of buildings uh that are used within the development uh certainly uh what you're saying uh may be true. There's other considerations that are taken into by the school, especially community input that the school heard, community input that the developer heard in order to come up with this plan that was then ultimately approved through the master plan process in December.

25:33 – 25:5110

And could you tell, and maybe this is what, could you tell us more about what that community concern that you- I think it was, I was just at the school reaching out and discussing with the community and other community leaders. The school, the Milton Hershey School. Milton Hershey School, yes. Thank you.

25:513

Yes, reaching out and discussing with the community.

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And where were these meetings held?

25:573

I think it was just an organic meeting organic situation of discussing with others.

26:056

So there were no meetings held for the first plan that went through where the density was higher. So that was just kind of a plan.

26:12 – 26:493

So things have changed since then. There have been discussions and meetings among the community about this project for nearly 10 years, including lots of charrettes and other items throughout the years. But this is the plan that meets all of the ordinance standards and was approved as a master plan in December. And thus it's almost, according to the master plan approval, this land development plan must be consistent with the now approved master plan.

26:50 – 27:326

Yeah, and we understand that. As you can see, many phases have changed since even that December meeting. So some of our priorities are a little bit different. One of the concerns I have, maybe this is an ordinance thing that we have on our end, but it seems like 9,000 parking spots seems like significantly excessive and i don't understand where those are all going to fit on that spot i don't i mean i just did a rough count of the the giant center and hershey hershey uh the park and it seemed like they didn't even have that much parking um so i'm just curious how how we're going to fit all that in this i mean are we going to be so that's spread out across the whole entire development so you've got the the medical research all on the right with the other parking

27:33 – 27:457

And it is a shared parking council. We are less than what is, if you just took each use by itself, we are taking advantage of the shared parking. But yeah, that's spread across the whole site. That is not just specific on phase J.

27:452

So the parking spots that are there now are included in that number or in addition to it?

27:507

Yes, correct. No, it would be the total for the whole buildup.

27:566

All right. And then I guess the phase two traffic study has not been done yet.

28:017

That is correct.

28:037

It is not triggered until I believe some of the commercial is built.

28:08 – 28:496

Okay. Understood. I had a constituent reach out to me about what the possible impact. And now that we're going to have possibly 9,000 vehicles parked in here, where I guess 7,800, since we have the reduced, it seems like. lot of impact for this this portion considering the the township's population is uh 28 000 so that's like a what a quarter of quarter of the population is going to be in the west end at one point i feel like that's going to be a significant impact i mean i know that we don't all the parking lots aren't going to be filled but So it'd be interesting to see what that looks like or what the original first traffic study, is that what indicated we needed a roundabout?

28:50 – 29:067

Correct. That is correct. And then the second traffic study essentially does another analysis during the built out phase to measure the trips, to measure the traffic. And then if additional measures are needed at that time, they would be implemented. For instance, the roundabout could have additional lanes if necessary.

29:07 – 29:366

where is this roundabout it's the one on the far side right there that's the one that's in right now yes yeah so it said that there's a improvements underway for water services to extend that is that cost being incurred by the development or is that that's the development okay and is there any ongoing maintenance um funding that you're offering to

29:3810

care for that extensive infrastructure that you're building and requiring us to take care of.

29:47 – 30:236

Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciate the managed experience and the human scaling in small neighborhoods, but at the same time, we do have the the township needs to act in perpetuity. It needs to continue for long beyond when you guys are done getting your shovels out of the ground. So we just got to be concerned about these things, what that long-term burden will be when we are all long gone and when our predecessors are, not our predecessors, but those who inherit these seats are like, what were they thinking back then? They had an opportunity to get some high density in here and really support, pay for all this in the long term. So yeah.

30:284

THE TYPICAL 18-MONTH MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

30:333

BUT THAT WOULD NOT GET TO WATER EXTENSIONS.

30:39 – 30:548

NO. I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BASED ON THE EXCHANGE. SO THE PLAN HAS ADJUSTED REDUCED PARKING SPACES FROM 9,728 DOWN TO ABOUT 7,800. IS THAT CORRECT?

30:57 – 31:197

So yeah, I was trying to flip to my page when we had it. So I think the total build out has just under 3000 off street spaces, not including on. So there is 959 because I just had my someone count them. 959 on street spaces and I have to like 2900 off street ie parking lot driveways.

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Wait, that's not the numbers. What's the 9000 and 7000 then?

31:25 – 32:0217

So I can explain that. Yes. So the 9,728 is how many parking spaces would have to be there just by the zoning ordinance. Okay. The 7,807 is what the shared parking analysis, which looks at time of day for each use, that's the reduction that that would allow in the zoning ordinance. Okay. The 9,677 parking spaces is what Hershey West End will contain when fully built out. So they're between the reduction and the required.

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Then what's the 2,000 you were talking about?

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Yeah, around 2,900 total. 2,900. Much different, guys.

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We would like less parking spaces if you can. So I will vote for the 2000.

32:206

I mean, I can pull it up.

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Can you pull it up? Yeah.

32:269

And a lot of that is unused anyhow.

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It's more. It's not less.

33:00 – 34:009

I think that's the phase. I didn't read that. I read that. 9,000. So phase A, C, D, and N. Okay. We're only talking about J, right? Phase J. So that's BMJ is 951. 1431 provided. Okay. Is that the final? Required to provide. I should surrender a tree or something. Because it didn't. Is that what it is? Retention. You're saying they were all.

34:45 – 34:5817

I'm just trying to see where my numbers came from. Right, that's just phase j. Phase j of around 1,000 spaces total required.

35:010

Phase j. Correct.

35:027

I think it was 1,193 is what I got.

35:156

Just to clarify, is that a running sum of the total spots that are needed? Correct.

35:217

It's shared parking. So each use comes in. It has a different peak time. So the total spots is going to be that $2,895?

35:286

I believe so.

35:3010

For all of the development?

35:327

Correct. Okay. All that's included in the shared parking. So like angle wood roaster is not included.

35:42 – 36:0110

the you grow building is not included but almost everything else okay so the 7 000 number is not part of this you don't have the parking i'm trying to pull it up okay i'm sorry for the whole development

36:2913

Excuse me, do you guys need a few minutes to figure this out? We can move on with the rest of the agenda and then we can come back to this.

36:44 – 37:026

No questions right there. How many miles of new roadway is going to be on here? Yeah, that's going to be the township's responsibility.

37:08 – 37:503

I don't know. I don't think give you a miles on the roadway, but Township has already accepted dedication of Hersey West End and the roundabout. Check the of the whole development somewhere. All of the alleyways within Unit J are going to remain private and maintained by the Condominium Association. So I think it's just the main roads that are going through the development. Again, Hershey West End has already been developed, and there's a road going to south and a road also going to the north that will be.

37:516

So no new roads are getting put in but the alleyways for this phase?

37:55 – 38:063

Yeah, no new dedicated roads are being put in for this phase. Correct. I think there's two, two or three. Two or three in this phase?

38:06 – 38:517

Because there's Marshall Street. Because there's Marshall Street that wasn't part of it. Okay. Sorry, we're making Chuck jump around. For reference, West End is about a little over 4,000 linear feet long, give or take. So just under a mile. And then on the plan, all the alleys are private, but there's Marshall Street that connects West End to Whitmer Way. And then there is Buckwalter Lane, which connects West End to Whitmer Way. And there's one more, sorry, there's three, Samuel Lane, which connects West End. And those were originally contemplated in the master plan. For reference,

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Is that included in your 4,000 feet?

38:577

No, just the 4,000 is West End.

39:0110

Is just the street named West End? Is that what you're saying? Correct.

39:067

It's the main drive. And those three streets are like 400 feet each. If I'm doing that correctly. Okay.

39:228

Do we have a projected start date and a projected completion date?

39:253

A start date, yes.

39:37 – 39:5810

And is there, just because we've had a situation where a homeowners association was supposed to be created and it never happened, what guarantee do we have that the homeowners association will be created and will... Chuck, if you want to include this as a condition for approval, I'll add the...

39:59 – 40:313

Uh, well, 1st of all, the, the West End condominium association already exists. And all and and we're just adding some additional land to it to create unit Jack. In addition, there will be a sub condominium. That will, uh. which will be phase J and phase K. Sorry for all this confusion. And if you want to make it as a condition for approval, that we'll have those documents completed when the plan gets reported.

40:3110

That would be great because in this other instance, we're stuck with it.

40:353

I already have an associate working on them.

40:3710

Okay, thank you. And that's all right, Chuck, to add that as a condition? Thank you.

40:56 – 43:056

Yeah, I guess one of the things just kind of just to, I don't know, not grandstand here a little bit, but just kind of where our logic is, not just for you, but just for the general public and maybe future developers, just some of the costs that we incur that maybe people aren't aware of. This is what I got from Greg and our amazing public works team. So your average road needs, especially a more moderately traveled road like the main West End Avenue would be, needs repaved or maintenance repaired. I'd say every 12 to 20 years. So, I mean, in perpetuity, this is going to be over and over in multiple cycles. And I think we just had a new paving contract for a million paving for 1.43 miles. So, it's like $200,000 per mile. So, that's like $200,000 every 20 years we're going to have to pay for this road, which, I mean, it doesn't sound like much, but in perpetuity, that continues to add up. And I know there's going to be tax benefit, but we've cut out almost 200, I think... to our units and a quick residential account that's like almost ends up being like $100,000 just really generalized income and whatever estimates. So this is what we're concerned about that we've just reduced a significant amount of the the tax-based benefit that we would get with this new plan. So I know the aesthetics are there, so I don't know if there was a way we can meet in the middle, but you have two approved plans, so we're just encouraging you maybe go back to the first one. But anyway, we'll see how this all goes out. So that's where we're coming from. Those are our concerns, and that gets into the... the number of salt miles we have to do. I think that ends up being, again, another $2,000 per mile. And then if this keeps adding up and we have to do the full build out, that could need another staff employee to maintain that level of service for plow removal in the rest of the community. So again, these are just things that we're trying to concern ourselves with. So again, thanks for listening to me.

43:1013

Any other questions from the Board?

43:12 – 43:248

Two more quick questions. The 52 apartment units and the 90 townhomes that are anticipated under Phase J, they're available to the public?

43:258

There's no priority of, they're just available to the public?

43:343

Yeah, absolutely, at market.

43:36 – 44:038

And then one other quick question. I've been asked a couple of times about this now. The retention pond that is across, that's, you know, it's not the most aesthetically pleasing, you know, and I get that you have to have it. Is there any, Anything else that can possibly be done, or has there been any conversation about anything else to possibly be done with that? If you're looking out the window of the new hotel, that's what you see. Yep.

44:03 – 44:387

So that is an ENS condition, which means it's got to hold sediment water. We have to store water and let the sediment settle out. That will be converted. at some point after construction is done and then seeded. We usually do a meadow mix in there. We still need to meet all the requirements of not just the township, but also DEP. So there is certain infiltration filtration requirements, but it will be seeded with a meadow mix. The basin, I call it the one around the roundabout, the big one that seed is starting to take. So we've got a few iterations in there that was going to hopefully start looking good here in the summer.

44:39 – 44:5413

Perfect. Thank you. All right, Mike, Brenda, Sandy, Rob. Okay, thanks gentlemen, appreciate that presentation. Somebody would like to make a motion.

44:56 – 45:118

I'll move that the requested waivers are granted from the subdivision and land development ordinance chapter 185, as noted in the explanation section of this agenda and item for the final subdivision and land development plan for Hershey West End phase J, Platte 1420.

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And I think we need to add inclusive of the HOA request for.

45:174

That would be a conditional plan approval.

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For the conditional, okay, all right. All right, we have a motion made by Mr. Belushi. Do I hear a second? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion passes four to one. Okay, there's a second motion to be made. Who would like to make it?

45:44 – 45:578

I'll make that as well. I would move that the final subdivision and land development plan for Hershey West End Phase J, Plat 1420 is approved, subject to compliance with items one through 19 in the department recommendation section of this agenda item.

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Thank you, Mr. Belushi, appreciate that.

46:014

As well as the requirement that the HOA gets provided and finalized prior to plan recordations.

46:07 – 47:0113

Correct. Okay, is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Carado. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Opposed. Motion passes four to one. Thank you very much. Congratulations, gentlemen. All right, our next agenda item. It's the adoption of a decision for conditional use application number 2026-01 as filed by HHS Property Group LLC for a food catering facility at 525 Rear West Chocolate Avenue, Lower Level. Chuck.

47:02 – 48:0217

As was explained at the public hearing held on March 24th and April 14th, HHS Property Group is proposing to establish a food catering facility at 525 Rear West Chocolate Avenue in the lower level, below Stumpy's. The application and testimony appeared to address the conditions of the conditional use requirement. The Board of Supervisors is required to render a written decision on a conditional use application within 45 days of the last hearing, which was April 14th, 2026. The decision that is in your packet was drafted by Peter Nelson and reviewed by Township staff. Derry Township Planning Commission at their meeting on March 3rd, 2026, recommended that conditional use application 2026-01 be granted with the conditions that are included in that decision. I'm recommending that that decision be adopted.

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Thank you, Mr. Emmerich. Any questions from this board? Hearing no, I'll make the motion that that decision for conditional use application number 2026-01 is hereby adopted. Do I hear a second?

48:166

I'll second that motion.

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Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor?

48:21 – 48:5813

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion passes. Next order of business. Authorization to proceed with the preparation and execution of the requisite documents, including a quit claim deed and or other memorandum of understanding agreement and or other document deemed necessary to relinquish any property right Derry Township may have in the Sand Hill Lions Club property along Sand Hill Road and identified as Dauphin County parcel number 24-052-207. Mr. Armstrong.

49:00 – 50:464

Thank you. This item, it's my understanding that the township for some time has been trying to resolve the structure over there on the Sandhill Lions Club property. It's minor saying it's in dilapidated shape and the township was looking to over the years to have it raised. It's minor saying that recently the township has been approached and asked to relinquish any potential rights it may have had to that property. The deed for the Sandhill Lions Club property does have a reconveyance provision. The township has never owned it. The township doesn't necessarily have a clear right to it. But in order for the property owner to proceed with removing that structure, they have requested that the township relinquish any rights that it may claim to have to the property. It's also my understanding that over the years, the township has looked at the property and deemed that it doesn't necessarily have any interest in the property. And in order to allow for the uh descendants of the original property owner to proceed with raising that structure uh it's my understanding that the township is amenable to considering relinquishing any rights it may have on the property whether by a quick claim deed uh and or other document deemed necessary subject to clearly the property owner agreeing to raise and remove the structure So what this actionable item is for you this evening is to consider the approval and the authorization to execute any documents deemed necessary to proceed in that direction, which would include likely a quick claim deed, but also a very short and to the point agreement or MOU with the property owner to ensure that they remove the structure accordingly. So are there any questions or comments for me at this time?

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Just kind of a comment, as I understand it, the building is falling apart, needs to be taken down. We don't want to use taxpayer money to do that. So there are some questionable possibility out there that at some point there may have been some possibility of some rights, but we really don't have any. We're just making it clear and get the thing torn down and not pay for it. I would move we do that. I move that we authorize the preparation execution of the requisite documents, including a quick cane deed or other documents deemed necessary to relinquish any possible rights the township may have had or have in the Sandhills Lions Club property.

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Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Is there a second?

51:3410

I will second that motion.

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Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor?

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Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. And our last agenda item, consideration of a sixth time extension for conditional approval of the preliminary final land development plan for Derry Township Municipal Authority Garage Addition, Clearwater Road, flat 1376. Mr. Emmerich.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This plan proposes a 4,843 square foot addition to an existing 7,846 square foot building. located in the municipal authority complex. The properties in the planned campus north zoning district and within the floodplain overlay, the site is accessed from Clearwater Road. It contains 27.89 acres. Board of Supervisors initially approved this plan on July 25th, 2023. To date, conditions one, three, four, and five of the extended approval have been addressed. The applicant has provided a revised submission to the township on May 16th, 2026, hoping to address all the remaining conditions and avoid the need for another extension. However, there was not enough time between receiving this revised submission and the deadline for submitting this agenda item for township staff and HRG to conduct complete reviews of the revised submission. Therefore, Based on our recommendation, the applicant has requested a six-time extension until September 22nd, 2026 to address the outstanding items. This extension would propose no changes to the waivers or the plan. We are recommending that you grant this extension, especially since we asked for it.

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Thank you, Mr. Emmerich. Are there any questions from the board? Hearing none, can I get a motion?

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I move that the requested extension of time to address the outstanding conditions for the preliminary final land development plan for the Derry Township Municipal Authority Garage addition, Plat 1376, is approved. Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Subject to the compliance with items one through 13 of the department recommendation.

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Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Sorry, I jumped on that. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Corrado. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Okay, that concludes our agenda items. Our next order of business is board and department head reports. I'm going to start at my left here with Mr. Bellucci. What you got there for me, sir?

54:11 – 54:478

This morning we had a... A MEETING, AND AGAIN, PAVING RESTORATION IS AGAIN MOVING ALONG, A TEMPORARY DELAY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER. EVERYTHING IS DONE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE, INTERSECTIONS, UNDERPASS. Park Boulevard. So fingers crossed that that gets done by the end of June, I think, or mid-June at this point. DTMA is continuing with storm sewer and inlet replacements. And that's about it.

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Thank you, Mr. Belushi. Mr. Corrado. No report. No reports. That's hard to believe. Okay. Ms. Ballard, what do you got for me?

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Well, not really reports, but... Just some thanks and comments. This month, May, is Bicycle Month, and we kicked it off with the Bikes to School Day on May 6th. We had a little rain, but that did not deter the students from coming out. Huge participation. And we had many community supporters who came out to help. I wanna particularly give a shout out to the police department who brought their officers on their bikes, the school district for coordinating the PR and the raffle, the school district food services for providing healthy snacks, Brian Link, a volunteer who organized three bicycle buses, which are basically groups of students and families who ride to school together. And I've heard that next time we'll have four locations instead of just the three locations that they met at. We thank Coco, the Hershey Bears mascot who always enlivens the party. And we thank Herco for donating the flashy safety lights. in gear fitness cycling and cycling pedal pusher bike shop and recycle bicycle for pumping tires and performing safety checks for the kids helmets and their bikes. And Penn State health pediatric injury prevention staff did some other bicycle helmet fittings. Box 43 came out and did some wonderful live coverage from the event. Always good to have positive publicity. National Walk and Bike to School Day is October 7th. And so we hope to see you then. Meanwhile, it is summertime. And in addition to students, you'll see other young people and older folks like myself on bicycles. So please slow down and expect to see more bicycles and pedestrians. And then just one shout out to the Public Works Department. I received an email from Derry Township Recycle Bicycle Volunteer, Glenn Foster, who sent a note of appreciation recognizing Chad Sowers and Earl Snyder at the Township Recycling Center. Chad and Earl routinely set aside bicycles that residents drop off at the recycling center. And then they notify recycled bicycle volunteers that the collection is ready and the volunteers come and pick them up. Glenn estimates that they have helped save approximately 120 bicycles for the program. Those bicycles are given to kids regularly. and teenagers who participate in repairing and restoring their own bikes. and giving them not only transportation, but valuable skills and confidence for these kids who might otherwise not afford a bike. So we applaud Chad Earl, Recycle Bicycle, and all of the volunteers and the folks who brought their bicycles over for the difference it has made. I also, with many other people in the community, mourn the loss of Recycle Bicycle's energetic and effervescent founder, Ross Willard. He passed away earlier this month, and Ross's enthusiasm for life and his commitment to improving safety and opportunities for cyclists throughout our region, really, will be greatly missed. Ross was one of my favorites. heroes. In honor of Ross, I encourage everyone to enjoy a bicycle ride in Derry Township on our beautiful Eschenauer Trail and encourage us all to renew our commitment to ensuring bicycle safety for anyone of any age in our community. Thanks.

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That's fine. Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Remind us in October to advertise the October bike and walk, please. Mr. Myers, your turn.

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All right, I have no committee meetings to report on, but I would like to offer some gratitude to our illustrious chair for his great role and emceeing the Memorial Day event at our park and Ms. Walker for organizing the event. Even the rain subsided just in time for everything to go off without a hitch. So well done on that. Thank you, Mr. Myers. Appreciate that.

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I got nothing else to say now because of that.

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No, I... I want to reiterate what Rob just said about Amy. She did a great job as usual, even though it rained a little bit, but I think everything went off without a hitch, without much of a hitch. So congratulations. I do want to add on to Mr. Bellucci's comments about our transportation meeting this morning. In addition to talking about the Ridge Road issues and the completion of that project, we talked, our bicycle and trail guy, Mr. Glen Rowe, discussed block works for briefly and the possibility of getting some grants for improved paths in the area. We also discussed town place suites, some parking in that area, some parking issues and traffic calming issues in Palmdale. And other than that, Thanks very much. That's all I got. So now on to the department heads. Chief Warner.

1:00:38 – 1:01:1815

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The only thing I have is between this meeting and our next meeting, Paul Miller's law, the penalty phase will be enacted June 5th. That's to crack down on distracted drivers. So officers will be able to issue traffic tickets. for those violations. So our traffic safety unit and other officers will be out enforcing that law to hopefully curb down on some of the distracted driving that we still see every day, pretty much constantly. So just wanted to remind everybody of that.

1:01:1813

Excellent, thanks Chief. And if we could get the sun to put something in the paper about, Thank you. Appreciate that.

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And that includes, for example, cell phone use while you're driving, right? That's primarily, yes. Just wanted to get that out there.

1:01:3613

I should have let you do that. Okay. We have Allison Jacobine. What do you got for me?

1:01:44 – 1:02:010

Thank you. We have the summer reading kickoff on May 30th from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. The summer reading theme this year is dinosaurs, which is very exciting. We'll have dinosaur-themed crafts, giveaways, and Kona ice for people who attend. So bring your water and your sunscreen and come enjoy.

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Thank you, Ms. Jacobine. Amy, your turn.

1:02:07 – 1:04:311

A couple updates from the weekend. Parks and Rec had a busy Memorial Day weekend as they usually do. So first off, we opened the outdoor pool despite the really rainy weather on Saturday, but it's an annual event. We didn't want to close, so we opened for maybe the one lap swimmer that came and dabbled their foot in the pool. So the outdoor pool is now open with modified hours until Saturday, June 6th. We then kick off our summer hours on that day. And you can find the full list of summer hours on our social media pages. Yesterday, as everyone's been mentioning, was our annual Derry Township Memorial Day ceremony, which was held at Chocolatown Park Court of Honor. We'd like to send a special thank you to the community for attending in memory of Hershey's fallen veterans. And despite the weather, we were able to still hold the event. Also a special thank you to everyone involved in the coordination, the Hershey American Legion Post 386, Hershey Memorial VFW Post 3502, Derry Township Police Department and Honor Guard, Hershey Volunteer Fire Department, Dr. Zabotchny, the guest speaker, Veterans Memorial Band, Scouts BSA Troop 203, Reverend Salsgiver, Derry Township Public Works, and Derry Township Board of Supervisors. Thank you, everyone. It was a really nice, nice day. Nice event. We appreciate the turnout, especially given the weather. And then I have one other update, kind of our next thing that we're looking forward to in the Parks and Recreation Department. We're going to be hosting a celebration for the United States Men's National Team and hometown star Christian Pulisic as they take on Paraguay on Friday, June 12th at the Community Center. So we're hosting a watch party. Activities will begin at 7.30 with soccer-themed activities in the gym, followed by the watch party in the event space at 9 p.m., Everyone in attendance is encouraged to wear red, white, and blue. This is a member and resident exclusive event. Registration's now open. We will be opening tickets to non-residents Thursday, June 11th, the day before the event, if there's space still available. And also a special thank you to the Hershey Company. They generously donated the limited edition Pulisic milk chocolate bars for the event. So we're looking forward to it.

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Outstanding. Thanks, Amy. Mr. Sassman.

1:04:37 – 1:04:5614

Good evening. That's pretty tough to follow. So I only have one item, and that's the new engine that was shown the other week at the Fire Expo in Harrisburg has now returned to us. And yesterday went down to Glick Fire Equipment for final equipment mounting. And we should see that in a couple of weeks, and then we'll be getting it in service.

1:04:5713

I look forward to seeing your new toy.

1:05:0014

We're excited for it.

1:05:0213

I'm sure you are. Thanks, Dave. Oh, Steve Kniezel.

1:05:088

No report, Mr. Chairman.

1:05:0913

That was easy. Eric, moving on to you.

1:05:17 – 1:06:3018

Two quick things. One, the Greenlight Go grant that the township received previously PennDOT is beginning the design of that project. That's one that PennDOT will be designing, then turning over the completed design to the township for advertisement and bidding and construction. Got notification last week, I think, that they were looking to get a kickoff meeting scheduled with the township to make sure that they're coordinating with us throughout the design. We'll know more on schedule and all that after that. And that is for traffic signal improvements along Hershey Park Drive, upgrading the equipment and detection along that, all the signals along Hershey Park Drive, and then also five signals along the Hershey Med Center frontage along Governor Road and Bullfrog Valley. The other update, Stouffer's Church Road, the culvert's been placed. That road is anticipated to be reopened to traffic by the end of the week. They were backfilling today, expecting to set guide rail tomorrow and then paving Thursday, Friday. It should be opened if all goes to schedule by the weekend.

1:06:3013

Thanks, Eric. I think that's more words I've ever heard you speak in this setting in years. Chuck, what do you got for me?

1:06:4217

I have nothing additional this evening.

1:06:4313

Thank you. Appreciate that. Mr. Jackson.

1:06:465

Nothing other than to echo the same things about yesterday's ceremony. Amy took care of all the thank yous, but yeah, wonderful event. Thank you to everyone that was involved. I know that's a group effort.

1:06:56 – 1:07:3813

Great job. Yep. Agreed. Agreed. Okay. That closes our board and department head reports, which opens up our second and final public comment session. Anybody would like to get up there and say a few words, please? The podium is yours. Seeing nobody getting up, that closes our second session of public comment. We have one more thing to do. I need a motion for adjournment. I would like to make a motion to adjourn. Thank you, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? Sorry about that. Thank you, Mr. Corrado. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. This meeting is adjourned.

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