City Council - workshop

Tuesday, February 17, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
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Deer Park, TX
Meeting Date
February 17, 2026

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202 sections (from 222 segments)

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you enlighten the rest of council? It's time to start.

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I forgot.

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It's 06:30. I'm sorry.

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Let me call to order the February 17 Deer Park City Council workshop. Did anybody sign up to speak?

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Yes, sir. John Matula.

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You're not gonna play another music video for us, are you?

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I'm gonna let you share my experience. John Latula, 801 O'Nell Street. Greetings, mayor Mouton and counsel. The loud music continues. If it's not coming from a moving vehicle, it is coming from next door to me.

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This public nuisance has been reported many times.

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Did you call the PD?

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I have reported it many times.

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Did you

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call when you recorded it? Did you call that day? Because you know we have a noise ordinance, right?

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I that that day that I recorded it, yes, they were called.

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Okay. Well, as long as the PD was called because there's already an ordinance in place to deal with the noise. And if it they deemed it not in violation, there's not a whole lot we could do.

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I I have reported this via the report of concern and called the police several times throughout the last few years. Thank you for your commitment to improving the quality of life in our community.

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Thank you. Moving on to workshop item agenda one, the presentation of the summary report of the annual comparative analysis for bias, base racial profiling, and loud music.

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Mayor, I cut off the loud music report. I'll have to bring that later.

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Oh, okay. Alright.

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So it's that time again to do the mandatory report to city council on the racial profiling report that's required every year before March 1. And then tomorrow or the next day, we'll enter it into TCOL as required by the state and will be through for another year. But number one, we had no racial profiling complaints again this year. As I like to point out every year, one of my favorite stats in this report is the number of stops, 24,257 stops last year during the year 2025. The number of females stopped was 6,969.

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And the number of males was 17,288.

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So if discriminating against anybody, it's the males. I think you

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can do that still,

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can't you? So We don't mind.

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Anyway, the other number that's important here is race or ethnicity known prior to stop. A 168 times it was. Two thousand twenty four thousand eighty nine times it was not. So another good report. A lot of traffic stops.

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None of the none of the percentages are out of line. So I think with the that report, we're in good shape. The asset forfeiture, so we have to make talk about the cash seizures and the summary of those, almost every single one of them. We had a burglary of a vehicle, and I think almost all the others unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. And we had a bunch of eight liners that were seized. And so there were only seven cases that were made. So it's pretty hard to determine a discriminatory basis for anything. We got some Middle Easterns. We got some white. I think we have a black.

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It's kind of whoever we catch with the goods, you know. So I think we're good on that as well. And then we had 13 deposits from cash seizures and one deposit from the sale of a previously seized vehicle. And again, most of those were under the eight liner, the gambling clause. So there were during that year, there were two individuals arrested at the time of the offense. After review of the case reports, no behaviors or trends observed that went into kick bias based profiling occurred. So we just went to where the gamma machines were or whoever was in the stolen car or whoever broke into the house. So I think we're good with our racial profiling report for another year unless you have questions.

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Questions, comments? No. Thank

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you, sir. Thank you.

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Agenda item number two, discussion of issues relating to the South Pasadena Plaza Drainage and Sidewall Project. Mr. Stokes.

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Mr. Bennis is going to talk about this. One thing I want to kind of lead with, and you'll see all this, but geographically what we're talking about is kind of the Southwest part of Deer Park, what we call the Long Streets or Hillshire, Wakeshore, that part of town. And through the years, we've had a lot of complaints about drainage, about road improvements that are needed, about no sidewalks. And those really all connect and relate to one another.

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Those are not mutually exclusive issues, as DOC is about to present to you. So we have some funding available. It would take substantially more funding to make all the repairs over there than what we have available. But in terms of do we sort of phase this and what does that look like and what the pros and the cons are, that's what Dee's gonna talk about right now.

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Good evening, mayor, council. So, like Mr. Stokes says, we're going to talk a little bit about the South Pasadena drainage, also known as the Long Streets. So we have here like the boundaries basically of the neighborhood that we're talking about. So right now, it's a mix of ditches typically on the south side of the streets.

9:17 – 10:170

We have culverts underneath the driveways and on both sides and an enclosed system on the typically on the north sides of each one of these streets. So that's basically what we have there. So we were considering several options here to, in general, improve the capacity of the whole neighborhood. Right now, those culverts that exist underneath those driveways, those pipes, and those inlets are undersized for the current criteria Or specs or details call for a minimum of 18 inches, and some of these are 12. So we're kind of seeing what options we have based on the availability of funds.

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And so this is what we wanna discuss a little bit. So the first option that we have is just re excavating and cleaning these ditches. Some of them have been backfilled throughout the years. So part of that side of those streets, the ditches are not there anymore. So they're just sporadic.

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So of course, if they're not connected, well then we don't have a We stop having a system. Option two would be what is option one, but also replacing those culverts underneath those driveways. So of course, that's gonna be a little bit more money, is a little bit more intrusive. Option three would be then option one and two, and then also replacing that enclosed system. That would include bigger pipes and bigger inlets.

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So maybe up to this point, those could be done in house. Definitely option number one. Option as we continue, then we get farther away from maybe being able to do this in house. Option number four would be a complete redesign of the system and this would include lowering the crown or lowering the whole streets, then creating curbs and gutters and inlets as we typically see in other neighborhoods. So now that this is Now we're talking major construction.

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So those are the alternatives that we're seeing. Of course, option four, it's something that could be done depending on many factors. It could be done at once or it can be split per street. So we have a proposal. Public works reached out to Cobb Family to provide a proposal for hydraulic modeling and see all the historical information that we have on that neighborhood.

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And that includes flooding events, losses, and that kind of stuff. Their proposal is $107,000 and it includes up to three hydraulic models as alternate to see how these different alternatives, or maybe others that they might bring to the table, how it all behaves. So this is just for a study and modeling. That does not include actual design. Once

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is done and they decide what might be the best option and what is the funding available, then we will have another conversation and then move forward with the final decision. So right now, we have a budget of approximately 7,700,000.0. So that amount is to cover this study, the actual design, the construction cost, material testing, land acquisition, and recording of flats if necessary. There is a piece of land that if we need it, there's nothing built in there. But I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

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But there's land available. And of course, any unforeseen circumstances. And those are going to be in the form of change orders. So there are other considerations and one of them is the sidewalk. So we have had some complaints and some requests related to either not having sidewalks on the south side of these streets. And there's lack of continuity. There's poor condition. And there's a school nearby. There's a lot of traffic in the morning from students. So sidewalks need to be considered because we have a budget just for sidewalks.

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But if we move with that, how If we later decide to do the drainage, we might have to rip out those sidewalks. So that's why I'm bringing it as other considerations for this whole thing. Another consideration we is the new FEMA map. So FEMA sent us an email about a week ago telling us that we have a month to review these new maps that are still under review just for city and government officials. And we have just about three months three weeks to send our comments.

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That doesn't mean that our comments are gonna be considered. We have already observed that they are using old maps. And a lot of the city improvements such as the what is it called? The next to the the the Dapps Detention Pond, the San Jacinto

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The one

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on Pasadena

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Boulevard and Lake Street.

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So none of those are reflected on those maps. So they're basing now they're putting a lot of homes in the flood plain. And one of the reasons is because they haven't considered those improvements at this point. So we're gonna send that information to them and see how they consider our improvements. The improvements that are already done and they're working.

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So that's something that we need to consider. So here, on your left side is a current FEMA map for that neighborhood. As as you can see, that light yellow color, it means it's not in the flood plain. If you see at the bottom of that first, you you can see some orange, you're gonna see some blue. That means that those areas the blue is a hundred year flood and the orange is the five hundred year.

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Now, in the new proposed map, they're putting, I don't know, maybe a half of our of that neighborhood as part of the hundred year flood plain. So the impact of that is that if those neighbors most likely, if they still have a mortgage, the bank is gonna require them to have flood insurance, which of course is gonna increase their monthly payment. So ideally, if we can move forward with one of these alternatives, this is gonna be part of the model and we're gonna see how these maps can change and hopefully we can remove this these streets from that floodplain. At the end of the day, we can do a lot of things. FEMA is gonna be the ones making the the final decision of what is in the floodplain and what is not.

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But from our part, we can improve the drainage to certain extent. So this is something very important that we need to consider. So the estimated construction costs related to these proposed improvements, if we go with the full payment reconstruction, we're estimating this to be about $12,000,000. And that's just reconstruction without design, material testing, and all those things that I previously talked about. If we just upgrade the 16 system, clean, upgrade those ditches, I mean those pipes and clean the ditches.

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So we're estimating this to be about 3 and a half million dollars. And the other option we talked about, the other consideration was, of course, the sidewalk. So we have the current budget for the sidewalk by itself. We might be able to do about 1,500 linear feet of sidewalk if we just do sidewalks by themselves because that's a different budget. So that's basically it. I hope you get a little bit of the big picture of the situation. Do you have any questions for us?

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If I could interject a little bit before questions. If any of y'all ever individually or as a group want to drive around and see this because it's one thing to hear about it and to see pictures. And obviously, it's just a mile and a half from here. If you ever want to physically go see it, you have, I would argue, a better appreciation for it. But there's you can't really have it all over there. Through the years, people want they don't want an open ditch. And so we have allowed them to put in a pipe.

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And we've even, as

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a city, historically in the past, have incentivized them. Like, you pay for the pipe, we'll do the work. And it makes your yard look pretty. That's the least effective way of getting rid of flood water. Then a lot of the streets, as you'll see us saying, on one side of the street, I believe the north side, they have a sidewalk. On the south side, they don't. And there's a school over there. There's always been questions and arguments about we need to do more to make it more pedestrian friendly to get to the middle school and the elementary school over there. But those sidewalks that exist are very narrow. They're three and a half, four feet.

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And they don't comply with the ADA requirements.

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Yeah, not ADA compliant. They're very old. And people park all over those sidewalks because they don't have room in their driveway and there's nowhere else to park. So they literally block the sidewalks every single day. So you can see where this gets complicated.

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Do we make nicer sidewalks that people are just going to park on? Do we go and dig ditches as we did previously in Bayou Bend? We know that was a needed thing, but an extremely unpopular thing. There really aren't good answers and solutions to just retrofit this as a fifty, sixty year old subdivision. And in a lot of those places, you all remember, the houses are lower than the middle of the street.

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So they're very prone to flooding. So again, if any of you all ever want to individually go look at this or we want to set a council agenda meeting where we get in a van or a bus and we go over there and you'll see some of this and let Dee explain it to you and you're seeing what she's saying, we could do that. But it's a very complicated issue that we have to be very careful how we spend the money. Because again, we don't want to spend the money in a

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that fixes one problem but doesn't really address the bigger problems or creates a new problem.

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I think going as a group is a

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Good idea.

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Good idea. Just so we know that we're all seeing the same thing, asking the same questions. I mean, don't know from a meeting perspective how you set that up.

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We'll have to figure that out. Angelo's giving me a dirty look over there. Sorry.

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Or we each follow each other while we're No, we can't be on the phone. We'll be on

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If we're

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not driving, we can.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Maybe if we couldn't do it with a quorum of counsel, could still do it individually or something. So

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what's driving this whole discussion and what kind

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of pool of money do we actually have?

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We have 7,700,000.0 and that We

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have who has 7,700,000.0? City

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of Deer Park.

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That's what budget We put money aside for that or do we get a grant?

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Have unused bond funds that were specifically designated for drainage and currently, there's $7,700,000 of that that's unallocated.

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From election in 2020?

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2021. 2021.

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But who's estimating the cost? If we haven't even gauged what needs to be done? Is this gonna be in sync with the drainage project we've already did just south of there?

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The cost is estimated based on the length of the street and historical information.

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That's it. Who's estimating that?

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That's me.

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So it's not it's just a rough estimate. It's just order of magnitude to kinda have an idea of what we're working with.

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It is probably a good idea to engage Cobb Finley. And they're very familiar with our our drainage needs. And

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four weeks

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from tonight at the second council meeting in March, you're gonna hear all about a more exhaustive presentation about those FEMA maps. And what does that mean for everybody in town, not just this part of town? But, yes, what's driving it? We get a lot of complaints about sidewalks, for example. And we would like to be able to say, that's no problem. We'll go in and put in sidewalks or take a portion and put in sidewalks. But then as they'll see us in earlier, we don't want to put in a sidewalk and later determine the best drainage option is to dig that very sidewalk back out for a bartech. So there needs to be some coordination amongst all of this.

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I would have

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there's no way Cobb Finley's going to do their engineering, and it's only going to cost $12,000,000 to do all that work.

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Oh, if you look at all four of those streets, they're over a mile long each. And on both sides, it's gonna cost way more. By

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the time it's all said and done, yeah, it probably will cost more.

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Well, whoever's calculating that, we'd be lucky if that's a down payment or half the price.

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And that's in today's dollars that we we don't have.

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Yeah. And that's not considering if we need to purchase land, dig another tomorrow pond. Do

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is gonna cost more than it does today? Is that what you're implying? Absolutely. Is there inflation in fact

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related That's to these

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that's been my experience.

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How how did what we did in Bayou Bend end

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up? Well, it know I know there's

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know there's some of the systems were mad with the ditch situation and all that. But as far as what we wanted it to do

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Well, open ditches are not popular. But, hydraulically, they're the best option. Because they're more economical and they carry more water. That's that's the reason. More

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capacity. Wow. And it would have cost us several million dollars more to put in pipe in. And then we lost capacity.

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Another thing that is typically done is that the roadways are used as detention. They are designed to be flooded. And again, it's not a popular option would

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be designed under current standards.

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Yes, Because otherwise, then you will have to continue to install bigger and bigger pipe and then it just,

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it's not affordable. Whoever designed that designed it for it to flood the house first and the streets high and dry. Probably. Yeah. Had to be somebody from Pasadena. La Porte.

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Send the name.

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Let's say La Porte. I like that one.

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So what do you want from this today?

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Well, one, basically, you'd be informed about kinda what the issues are. Two, I think we're what what we're kinda looking at is is maybe here here's some again, if y'all wanna go see it more firsthand, understand it better. And then two, when you hear more about the flooding issues that affect the new maps Amman, the but the next step is gonna be that we have to get some professional help.

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I think we've gotta have have Cobb Finley do the Yeah. Some of

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Pretty sure Cobb Finley would agree with you. Well,

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obviously, they will.

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Well, I mean, just to kinda know what's the best course and what they recommend and then we can look at it and go from there.

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Yeah, that would be after the study. After modeling the different options. Yeah. That's when we're gonna have a better picture of the situation.

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So I have a question because I know with the other streets it was that their easement, I mean they had so much easement that they went up so far they had no yard left. Do we, I mean, is that gonna happen with these as well?

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Is the Some of these homes already have the ditches. Right. At the end of the day, homeowners, we we don't own the right way. Right. The city does.

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In my opinion, it's lack of knowledge.

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Is there ditch there or not? The easements are still there.

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Yeah, I know. But I'm saying they get a little territorial about the easements.

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Yes. Outcome's going be likely the same or it's going to have to go down.

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That's what I'm asking. They're going to lose a lot of yard. But

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I would rather have that than flood.

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I would rather have a ditch that's water inside my house,

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for sure.

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Or that versus a One guy

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jumping on the tractor doesn't give you this. So you need an answer because I think, in my opinion, we should not do any improvements on the sidewalks until we get a clear aspect.

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That's okay. That I think that's wrap a bit.

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We'll talk about the FEMA maps in in four weeks and then get Cot Finley going. And then in the meantime, if any of all want to go see it, just let the news know.

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Any other questions? No. Any other questions? All right. Thank you.

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It's in item number three, discussion of issues relating to the termination of a contract with Central Square Technologies for false alarm tracking and billing services and entering into a contract for such services with alarm program systems?

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You get me again. Prior to April 2015, we collected and did all the alarms in house. That month and year, April 2015, we entered into a contract with Central Square to pretty much handle all of our false alarms and billing and that type of thing. And for years, they did a phenomenal job. And then in the last few months, Lieutenant Keeney is here.

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He deals with them. They had a reorganization and their efficiencies just went kaput. Residents were having to call us because they couldn't get phone calls back. They couldn't get emails back. So after this went on for a few months, said, you know what?

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Let's see what else is out there. So we got proposals from Alarm Program Systems and a group called PMAM. Also, we told Central Square that we were looking to renegotiate the contract or look for other options. So they submitted a new one as well. The PM AM, they went with a 60 nine-thirty one split, 69% for us, 31 for them.

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Right now, we're at sixty eight and thirty two with Central Square. And PM AM offered seventy eight, twenty two. All the customers that have them spoke very highly of them, gave great references. And there's a number on there. You can look during the time period from June '23 to November '25.

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We basically collected $144,000 89,000 was for us, 54 was for Central Square. It could have been 112,680 for us and 31,000 for them. So it's pretty good price difference as well. And so it's time to change, and we're asking you to approve this contract so that we can get this moved over. There'll be a forty five day period. They have to get us the information, all of our current information. We'll get that to the new group. They'll upload it and take it over.

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Comments? Thank you. Didn't by any chance track like loud music or anything like that, does it?

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I'm still looking for that report,

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Mary. Okay.

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Agenda Yeah. Item number four. I'm about to start laughing at myself. That's kind of funny. Discussion of issues relating to the proposed fee structure for the new JBAC.

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Mr. Wall.

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Good evening, mayor and council. I think you saw the proposed fee structure. I'm going to kind of do a real short, brief presentation to discuss the new fees for renting the facility as long as some estimated expenses that we're anticipating. We're still on pace to have the facility turned over in April. So we have some anticipated expenses this fiscal year, April through September, which is six months.

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So when I do some estimates for a full year for next year, half of that will probably go on next council and request a budget amendment, which we would need for this year to cover April through September. But this is just an overview of the facility. And I'll kind of go back and forth here. There are the three ballrooms and the three breakout rooms. You see the Event Space C, the larger one, closest to the kitchen.

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That's going to be the heritage. And that's 10,700 square feet. The other two ballrooms, Event Space B and Event Space A, the Battleground Ballroom and the San Jacinto Ballroom are 7,000 square feet. So they're significantly smaller. The seating capacity is about 500 for the heritage, about three fifty for the other two. And then the breakout rooms, Semien West is the larger one. You see that in Breakout Room C in the bottom right corner. The other two breakout rooms A and B are about 1,000 square feet. The larger one is 2,000 square feet. So the fees in that are roughly double obviously.

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So that's just kind of a quick overview of square footage and the capacities for these facilities. And these are the rates that we're anticipating charging. I'd say probably about six, nine months ago Jacob and I spent a lot of time evaluating other event centers through other cities, civic centers, rental halls and tried to find what's compatible. A little challenging because of the square footage is a lot different at a lot of facilities. We're trying to find things that are compatible with the square footage that we offer.

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And we came up with something that we think fits right. We did talk to Caitlin as well, got her perspective. And she does a lot of work with tourism and is familiar with some of the other facilities as well. So, you can kind of see there, we have the rates for the ballroom, the rates for the breakout room. We have a Monday through Thursday rate and weekend rates.

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We have four hour, eight hour, and sixteen hour blocks. Resident and nonresident rates, all nonresident rates are 50% above the resident rate. And for the breakout rooms, we're all straight hourly rates, but it'll be higher rates on the weekends. So any questions at all about the rates that we anticipate charging for the facility? We have some I'm sorry, sir.

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I was just going to say, you know, looking at what it costs to rent Pasadena Convention Center and other things, I don't see any issues.

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Okay. Some add ons. This is the hourly rates. We want to add on the kitchen. The Monument Suite, I apologize. If you look right behind the stage, Event Space A behind the stage, there's a little dressing room. That dressing room was called the Monument Suite. That's a it could be used like a bridal changing room or if there's a band that we need to go back there and have like a hospitality room or things like that. That's also available for rent. And that's an add on, dollars 25 an hour.

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Or the outdoor patio is an outdoor is an add on as well. And then some flat fee rates, full stage. The stage comes in panels so it'll be able to be broken down into a full stage or down to a half stage, podium, portable bar and AV. So these are add on rates that we'd like to charge. Some salary expenses.

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Currently at the existing JVAC, we don't staff the events. So we'll have a staff person come and they'll open it and then come back and then go check on other facilities, check on Clot Burgess And Parks. And they will come back there and lock the event up after it's over and clean up. But they're not there for the duration of the event. With this facility, think it's very important that we do that.

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We have this is much larger. We have multiple events going on at the same time. We could have organizations renting a specific event that could, if not properly supervised, could get to other areas where they shouldn't be at. So we think it's important to all events there to be staffed 100% of the time we have the users in there. With that, obviously additional staffing is required.

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We're requesting taking a part time maintenance technician and reclassifying that from a part time to a full time. That would cost $47,000 That includes all benefits. We're requesting four new part time facility attendants. And these are part timers that would work evenings, weekends, just basically working these events. Standard event might take a large event might take two part timers to do an event that big with cleanup and the setup.

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The three ballrooms are 24,000 square feet combined. So we have events for 800, 1,000 people. It's pretty significant cleanup. And reclassing one of the we currently have a part time theater aide at twenty hours a week that works at the theater. We wanted to reclassify that one to a thirty hour, an extra ten hours a week, and have that person provide assistance with the AV. The AV at the new JBAC is extremely it's very extensive. It's a lot of really nice new equipment. And we want to make sure people that are using it are skilled. And if we do have events that require that, we want to make sure we have somebody that's skilled and trained and understands the technology to go over there and not just have anybody just put their hands on it. So that's And a

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$100 a day flat fee for AV is nothing.

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Correct. If you have an existing rental and you want to use the screen and projector and the mic, 100 a day, correct. So if they have an event, a three day event, they pay per day, not per event. So that total for the course of a year is $157,000 As I mentioned, that's for one full fiscal year. For this year, from April to September, we would need $78,000 to cover the staffing for this fiscal year.

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Supplies, this is basically additional supplies that we need just SIP operating supplies, paper, soap, cleaning supplies, contract labor, window cleaning services, anticipate $26,000 for a full year. So an estimate for this year, we would need $13,000 So for this year, I think we would need $13,000 in supplies and $78,000 in salaries.

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So that's not in addition to what we're paying now for like the supplies and stuff. That's just what you're saying total?

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This is an addition. So we need this is additional funds that we

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So would have the supplies we're already using for Bank. Okay.

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Yes. In addition to the supplies we're already

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yes. Yes.

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Because the upkeep and cleaning, it's going be more than the current. It's going be.

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Before I go into I think the last slide, some estimated revenue that we might project. Just show a little bit of history of the last couple of years. In 'twenty four, we had 152 total rentals. 46 of those were paid. We generated $35,000 So a lot of these rentals are rentals that were free. To be clear, many of those are internal. So they're not all generating no revenue. For example, our summer camp, we block off our summer camp that we do generate revenue for, is just shown in another department. If we have city programs or park and recreation programs, we'll block off. So there's no rental revenue that shows in the JBAC budget, but that money is recognized in athletic program revenue.

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So not all of it is so the $35,000 there is additional revenue generated from the facility, but this is specific to what's rented. And last year in '25, kind of the same thing. We had 111 total rentals, 38 were by pay. It's an outside group coming in to rent the facility and paying specific rental costs. That's what that revenue is.

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But like I said, there is other revenue generated from program revenue when the city blocks offers for a parks and rec program and then we generate revenue from that. So some projections for a full year. These are conservative projections on how how much rentals we might get from ballroom rentals versus breakout rentals and some add on revenue during the week, weekend estimating roughly $44,000 over the course of the year. That's through the first year I anticipate that to grow. So that still exceeds what we're currently bringing about a good 50%.

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And I would only see that number growing. With the current JBAC, when we have a rental, it usually takes up the ability because there's like one rental we can do. We have that flexibility now. We have three ballrooms. So blocking off the J back now isn't blocking off the full J back. We're blocking off one ballroom. So we could do multiple events at one time, which we don't really have the ability now. We have breakout rooms. We have six different rooms that we can rent and have several different events going on at the same time. That's pretty much it. That's kind of what kind of a budget business plan that we're anticipating. I don't know if anybody questions about the fees or the expenses or salaries, anything I can answer for you.

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I have one, but it's not really about fees. The outside

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The patio? The outdoor patio?

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The patio. I'm gonna say, that's not gonna have like any kind of fencing or anything on it, right?

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guess my other thing is like people from the ballparks coming over and hanging out. I mean, have we thought anything about

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I mean, they could.

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It's a public area for now. So it's that they could. Now, we do offer private rentals just like a public pavilion. Anybody can go sit in there. But if somebody rents it, then we put signs up. And we let people know it's a private rental. And we have to clear the area for the group.

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That is correct. That's a good point.

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Yeah. That's the only thing I've really thought about that might become an issue. And I may not. I don't know. Just I know it'll become an issue.

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So It'll become an issue. All the baseball bats and cleats. Yeah. They're gonna become an issue.

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But other than that, I think it looks fine.

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I think this is very conservative, which is good. But I think you're

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blow right past that. Any more comments, questions?

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So once the fees get approved, then we'll start. Then I'll get with Nikki and Caitlin, and we'll start moving here pretty quick.

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People that are already looking into asking questions?

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Quite a few. So we do have some

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Lots of interest,

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I hope. We do. We do. And we do have some groups that have requested dates. And we've discussed dates and have some dates available for some groups. Groups that want to go ahead and put a hold on it and already want to reserve the date. So once we get the prices confirmed, then we'll move forward. Jasmine's already got contracts together. All we need is once the fees get approved, then we'll start right away taking reservations.

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Another thing of note, the current JBAC, we have a nonprofit rate, which is whatever the rate is, it's half that. The plan is to continue that unless y'all see it differently.

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You. You.

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You. Yes, sir.

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Microphone's on.

44:101

Agenda item number five, discussion of issues relating to the fiscal year twenty six-twenty seven budget calendar.

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Good evening mayor and council. If you all want me to drag this out for seventeen minutes, I certainly can before workshop starts. But otherwise, I plan to do this very quickly. This is very typical budget calendar that you're used to seeing. It's color coded as we have done in the past.

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Everything in purple is for CDC, blue is CCPD, green is the fire district, and then everything in red is public hearings. Don't really the only thing that I want to point out I want to make sure that we note is there everything is that involves counsel will be on a regularly scheduled counsel meeting with one exception. It's July 14 at 5PM. We do have to have a special called meeting that day. Other than that, there is nothing out of the ordinary with this calendar or schedule.

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And this has been checked and cross referenced with TML and all other litigious guidelines. Any updates or changes with the in the in the law or with the legislature has been confirmed. And this budget calendar is good to go. With that, does council have any questions?

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And your big date would be Monday, June 22.

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You're quiet. Nothing? June 22. That's good. July 0 what? Fourteenth?

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Yeah. And then Jay is correct. June 22 is the council budget workshop. That is not that will not take place on a regularly scheduled meeting day. I apologize for that. June 22 and July 14.

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That's the same as always.

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Yeah. They'll say it doesn't matter. For sure. Got it. Alright. Got them both down.

46:101

Anything else? That's all the items we have for this evening's workshop. This meeting is your turn.

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You didn't have your calendar. That's right.

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