County Council - Regular Meeting

We got the mayor coalition here. I never heard. Yeah, that's the balances. I've been busier now, buddy. 10 days. It's took off quite a bit. Yeah, I think this picture was from like May the 4th. I don't have a lot out, but I got I got more than this out now, but I had onions, lettuce, kale, I got I put some peppers in. I got some tomato plants, but I haven't planted them yet. If it's not too late, I might do that tonight cuz I really got much rain up there. We got some It kind of rained like a lot yesterday. I mean, all day, but not very not much. I think we have a built think we might have had two tents or something, but it was it's dried out pretty good. I mean, it's dry enough now. I could run my I got a roar on my tractor and I can run that through there quick and then I try to plant tomato plants and stuff. I got my tomato plants in What kind you What kind you use? I I like the pink girl celebrity and I always plant some great sunshine right and that cherry and then I'll I'll see something out there. I just want to So yeah, I mean the uh uh super songs I got guy told me about them and I had I I had two years of not very good success with any of them and I was pl I planted Raptors, you know, for cannon and stuff but this year here I bought some super sonics so far and I bought some push

super bullish and you don't need to st get real high you know keep producing like in records they you know they all come on indeterminate the determinant you know they come on all at one time right I always like them better but I just bless couple years ago I got I picked up Oh yeah. Pasta sauce or something. I'm moving with me and Timmy. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. An update on that. But tomorrow seems like it's way too early. If we can find our match, why do we have to pass? Yeah. Well, if we do it just so you do it, you have to do it by Yeah. In order to be able to get in order to be able to get some additional funding, you have they've changed the community policies in private. Yeah. soon in order to be able to dip into that other five. And I'm not sure size of just so and there's still size population.

Well, on the on the community crossings part it was 50,000. Oh, right. But at the moment 20% used to be for everybody. I mean for our size it used to be 5050. Yeah. Now it's only 20. Oh 20. So, it's going to be a lot more people. They put less money in that pot and they change the Okay, there's so much stuff going through my head. There's so many changes are off to a good start. Well, hopefully the weather stays away for you tomorrow. Yeah, we're just that might be a way for us to approve it so we don't have to have an extra meeting before August the 1 because they had projected like income, you know, receipts for 26 and 27 in January. So that gives them an option to be able to come up and they can they can what we're saying is you can go from up to I mean that to me is what that says right voting on that this voting on this one. Oh yeah. Yeah. I knew that. But this here's that's already been those

are and then there I thought I thought that was Yes. That's why I was Well, you did too. I'm sorry about confused. No, you didn't. We thought we just thought do you want to move this down to the agenda or not? You did. I didn't get an updated agenda. I'm sorry. Right under your filter. long arms. Yeah, I thought about it. I was about 20 steps out of my car. I thought I could squint for one more meeting. I borrow Jeff's glasses. It's five o'clock, but we'll give her a minute to She needs a picture for the web county website. We clear our junk off the counter then for that. No, because we're working. That's right. Okay. Do the first half. Okay, everybody ready? Thank you. If you remain standing, we'll begin our meeting with the pledge of allegiance. If everyone will please stand and join us in the pledge, we'll call the meeting to order. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. As a recipient of federal funds and in support of Dean Countyy's efforts to ensure non-discrimination and equal access to all citizens, the county gathers statistical data regarding participants in county activities. Therefore, we have provided a voluntary title six public involvement survey at this meeting. You are not required to complete the survey. However, the form is anonymous and be used solely for the purpose of monitoring our compliance with title six and ADA. Thank you, Andy. The first thing on the agenda is the Der County Regional Sewer District. Bill Shelton has resigned. Council has two appointments. One is um actually I think we have three, but one is uh needing to be replaced. That's Bill's position. Jeff Bitner has been suggested as the replacement for Bill Shelton for county council. um seat on the sewer board. Is there a motion to approve Mr. Bitner? I move we appoint Jeff Bner to the regional sewer board. Is there a second? I'll second. We have first and second. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I oppose. Nay. Motion passes. Additional appropriations. First is the uh juvenile center inmate meals. Is there anyone here presenting? Thank you, Mr. B. This is for um fresh fruits and vegetables for the juveniles that are in the detention center. Yeah. Reading through the request, I know that they get their main meals from the jail and it's adult meals and what they're asking for is essentially $100 a month in order to buy fresh fruits and vegetables for teenage kids. So, and I know they've been doing cooking classes

and stuff, too. Like, Right. So, if we can keep them healthy, maybe would be a a plus. Is there a motion to approve this request? Motion to approve it. Thank you. Is there a second? I'll second it. Motion a second. Any discussion? All those in favor to signify by saying I. I. Opposed? Nay. Motion passes. planning and zoning requesting money for it publication and yeah because of all the new mediums for the plan comprehensive plan. Yes. So Nicole Dailyaly uh director of planning and zoning um if you don't know we are undertaking the updating of the comp the county comprehensive plan. Um we do are doing that in house. Um, we're estimating a year process, if not maybe a little bit more. Just depends on public involvement. But we are trying to reach out to as many people as possible and and looking at the different ideas we've had. Um, one which was sending one notification to each property owner in the county. Um, which we've done the research on that would cost $8,000 at a onetime expense for a postcard. So, I have contacted the Eagle, the local radio station, and try to work with them on um how we can do it best. What we're looking at is uh three months, which would coordinate with our workshops that we want to have by the end of the year. And they would do radio announcements for that comprehensive plan workshop. we would have a month-long kind of on the radio on their website um for a month uh that we have the workshops hoping to get more

people's attention um to get them to the workshops and we're planning on doing that three more times this year. So, we are looking at that additional cost just to reach more people um hopefully to get them involved. And just so you know, we're trying to also have them in this room so we can get them on YouTube as well to get people involved with try to interact with what we do here um on the YouTube to get them involved with the internet, try to get more people involved. So that's why we're asking for those additionals. Is there a motion to approve the $225 out of county general for the con plan advertising? I'll make the motion. Nicole, are the rest of your funds fairly exhausted? I mean, it seems like a not a terribly large amount. Yeah. So, we actually bit Yeah, we do a lot of publications. So, I even looked into our um what we typically use for our meetings because we are strict guided on how we have to publicize. Um and even last year with the amount of money that we had, we actually only had $10 left as we have to publicize for every meeting and exec replica. So, we actually only asked for what we think we need at the time. So, um, and then we did a forecast on looking how many more meetings we would have and we're roughly about that maybe between $10 and $100 left at the end of the year. Okay. And then this is kind of like a we'll probably have a little bit more that we'll put in the budget next year because it will go into 2026 and that will be once we're done with approving the comprehensive plan. It's kind of like the onetime thing and then we'll look at five or 10 years more when we have to update. Is there a second? We have a motion from Dan. Is there a second? I'll second. I I'd add in there that if you get close to the public meeting time instead of maybe using some of that money, you

could put it like uh I mean some people subscribe to the register, but the beacon goes to a lot of houses around and you know I think that people would have a lot better opportunity to see that than because they kind of got to get on the internet and look for something like that to find it there. you know, we're we have at least they know we have been working with the beacon um this year on that. We've had the one uh workshop. We've been working with them as well. So, that's kind of where some extra funds have gone in our publications. We've done that. This was just a larger amount to try to reach more people. Personally, I would never see it on because I wouldn't get out there and just be looking for something like that. You know, there'll be ranking on advertisements and the price also includes um chances to do interviews at specific times. um with me as well to get hopefully get that word out more and that would be on the website to check the eagle or what yeah so we're also getting in return so we would have a banner on their website that would once they click on it that it will draw us uh draw them to our website that we have set up we have a separate page set up just for the comprehensive plan update okay we have a motion and a second any other discussion all those in favor signify by saying I oppose nay Motion passes. Thank you, Treasure. Um, the treasurer had a copier that was breaking down and leaving lines on the middle of their pages and um, she opted for a smaller one. The last one was 7,000. This new one she wants is 20 close to 2,300. 22.99 for a new one. Is there a motion to approve the amount for a copier for the treasur county general? I'll make that motion.

We have a motion. Is there a second? I'll second it. The agenda and the uh the request form is are not the same numbers just for clarification. 2229 is the one and the other one was 2299. It was advertised for 2299. That's my fault. We'll forgive it this time. Connie, come on, Connie. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion passes. Next up is the park board and a grant request for STO. Hello wonderful people. How are you? How are you? Good. Thank you, Nicole. All right. So, uh I assume all of you have received uh the uh notice that uh Nicole Post put up together. Uh as you all know, we have been working uh relentlessly to uh finally get in this stellar pathways which uh promises a potential of $1 million going exclusively to Bright Meadows Park. Uh that $1 million is contingent on a million dollars also being present for them to match. So, whatever we have in the in in the coffer, they will match. Right now, that fund is at $320,000 consisting of $50,000 from the Dearborn County Community Foundation, $50,000 from the from the uh Donathan family, $120,000 from Park Fund 1179, and $100,000 from the Dearborn County

Redevelopment Commission. Uh there's also another $30,000 that has already been voted on by the park board to add uh pending approval from you guys. So that from the 1179. So that takes us to $350,000 which means $350,000 is going to be met. Uh what we are also prepared to do as far as the park board is can I ask you where was that 30,000 from? uh that has already been approved by the park board from the 117 1179 fund and it just uh that needs to be approved. Yeah. So that's a part of the additional 30,000. So they uh the park board voted to come to the council. So it's actually approved. It's not approved through you guys. It was just voted by the park. So So I'm confused now. You you got the the 120,000 I'm seeing and then you're asking for 30 additional, not 130 additional. Well, there's more coming. Uh because what we would like to see happen is again from the 1179 the uh and so it would come from the parkboard funds for one and in order for us to get approved for the full million. The $1 million commitment has to be turned in with the application by August 1st. Now that does not mean that we need a million dollars by August 1st. We have until 2027 to come up with the rest of the funds. So, in a three-year roll out, the park board would like to uh and was planning to vote on $100,000 at the next park board meeting. Then in 2026, another $75,000 from the riverboat fund. And then in 27, another $75,000 from the riverboat fund, which was get us to $600,000. What we're here before you to request is help from the county because I think we can all agree that it is in everybody's best interest to get a million dollars from the state as opposed to $600,000

from the state. Uh which benefits one park exclusively, which is in the literally in the backyard of many people in this room. Um what we would like to see uh council do is uh for this year uh onethird of the remaining $400,000 which would be uh uh so I can get my numbers accurate of the 133 13334 in 2026 the same amount in 2027 the same amount all of this contingent on the fact that the park board is going to continue to work to secure funding through donations, through grants and outside funding, which in turn would offset the promise from council and also offset the $75,000 commitment. So, we can all kind of just split the difference on that and reduce the amount that's coming from the county because we've been able to secure outside donations, corporate financing, grants, so on and so forth. end goal being um as was the the goal from the beginning of the stellar pathways project. If we can get $1 million from the state to improve one of the county's greatest resources, then it would be uh silly not to try and do it. We just need to make sure that we have in the August 1st application the information saying this money has been secured with the full commitment from the park board that we do have balls in motion to try and uh make the county's commitment as little as possible. and we don't think it'll be the full 400,000, but we do want to be able to put in the application to say that that 400 that extra 400,000 to get us to the $1 million mark so we're not wasting any money. I don't think we can do that ahead of time. That's what I was going to say. We can we can address additional

appropriations for 2025. And what I suggested in uh ran it by the auditor would be like an addendum to your grant request that the county would county council would vote on tonight which would state that uh the monies that were already approved including the ones from redevelopment would be a total of $320,000 that you're requesting $130,000 tonight from your 1179 fund and that you're also requesting 133,000 and some odd out of county general which would have to be voted on and that the grant uh request would be contingent on the amount of funds raised by the application deadline of August the 1st, 2025 because we cannot uh encumber money for 26 and 27 today. So, the most county council could do today is uh deal with your request of 130 and then also the request out of county general for the 133,000 some odd and approve the grant up to a million contingent on funds actually being in hand. So that's that's where we are as I understand from talking to the auditor and other members and uh we think Andy would concur with that. Right Andy? Sorry, I was working on something for later in the meeting. I believe um if I'm hearing you right, I think that will work because if we have the grant, the Dear County grant application that we've said for the million dollars, I'm thinking that will work for the application. But yes, in the 2025 scheme of things, what they're asking for is the umund um 30,000 uh for 2025 um to be taken out for their

funding to be used for the stellar program and then asking council out of the general fund, the 1333 for 2025 to go towards that. Um, now I will also add that as we've been discussing because the money doesn't have to be in a bank by August 1st. We just have to say this is where monies are coming from that we've already started working towards gathering donations. Um, I had last Friday meeting with Baba which is the uh bright business association. Um, they sounded enthusiastic on um donating some money. We're also working with the um county tourism. uh they have indicated that there is possibly $120,000 that they have set aside just for stellar that it could not you be they did not want it to be used for any of the other parts of the stellar program but the park program um and then they have they had some a certain amount of funds that were set aside that they didn't want for deals for the main street or some other but they had some set aside just for the parks and then there's additional money that they had set aside uh for the parks of Darren county. Um they came to the meeting last we're attending their meeting in June. So and then I have um our department there are several grant opportunities that we are looking into uh for fitness purposes because in front of you we uh the concept plan. One of the components that we uh the parkour wanted to add was a fitness scheme to it. But the issue with some of these grants, because it doesn't look like construction can start till 2027, is that most of those grants once you are approved for it, you have about a 12 month period to use that funding. So to apply for a grant with construction starting for 2027, we're looking at the end of 2026 to be able to apply for those additionals. Um there's

one with the trails program that is upwards to $70,000. Um so we as we are looking at this we are thinking that any commitment made we are trying to reduce what that commitment is by council or by the park board with donations. But it's the amount of time we have till August 1st to try to say yes. We want to be able to say we want spending a million dollars. Um, yeah, we want to be able to say by August, August 1st, that we have the million dollars in. Well, what we're saying is that council would be in a position to approve the grant request with the condition that it would be for the amount of cash that you have in hand. Yes. And that's the only way we can do it because we cannot promise the future future revenue. Nicole, you've been working with the park board on their five-year plan. Yes. um see a lot of existing elements and I'm sure this is a moving plan, right? It's changing which is great. That's that's how it should be. It should be reactive to what the community wants. Uh is there $2 million worth of work here? Yes. Yes. So, um you also think so just with the um paths themselves, taking those out, expanding those to 8 foot wide paths. Also, one of the paths, um, we've got the amphitheater that is in there. We have fitness, we have inclusion, playground equipment, um, and looking at making all of the walkways and entrances um, ADA compliant, which is required by this grant anyway. So, some of those paths have to be rerouted to make sure that the slope is accurate. Um, so we're looking at all those. Um, and also changing some of the uh entrances to the park and the exits to make it more uh less congested with traffic flow, especially you expanding the paving into the that grassy area or not on this

particular not right now. Um, they put a disc golf course through there and trying to keep that more nature um in style um just to have a nature aspect to the park as well. So, that's kind of one of the things we've talked about in that section alone. Um and like he said, some the main some of the other costs would be a new entrance on the state line, eliminating two entrances off the um Heel to help with some traffic flow through there um to get rid of three entrances, the one to the south um is a slight distance issue. So, it's not only that we're looking at upgrades to the park, but we're also looking at other safety factors that have been voiced in some of the public hearings and stuff like that and accessibility. So if there's a a plan for a stage of some sort, is there a plan for additional restrooms or if there if there is some sort of stage event, would there be like port brought in? Yes. Yeah, there would have to be. So this is also in coordination with the group that wanted to do the bring back the bright festival um to that area and working with that and having the ability to do that. And then also uh the Bright um business association, they actually had they really like the idea because they do um music through the summertime on Fridays once a month and they actually hold it in a parking lot. Um and they were excited that they would might have the potential to use that space as well uh for the community throughout the summertime. So, it's gotten a lot of feedback um as we go to different groups. And there there's also a plan for us to do an opportunity for have a meeting with actual people who live there with the community to find out what they like, what they don't like, and get a better feel. So when we finally put uh shovels in dirt as they say, uh we're giving people in the community what they want, not just what

we think they when the school district some different school corporation deed this land to the park board, were there any covenants on the use of this property? I mean I think they they probably were expecting it to be continued to be used for ball fields as one ball fields were going to stay. Yeah. But I didn't know if there was has anyone looked into that document when the school district actually deeded this property. We're also looking into that because we actually will have to believe through this grant program. You have to actually put additional restrictions on the deed. Um so we are working with the consultant right now to take a look at that for the application because um for like legal description purposes. I've also asked them to keep in mind um when we described that for the grant program to come inside the ride ofway a little bit more because I want it to be protected in case we ever have to put sidewalks or anything like that along State Line Road for connectivity up there. Um because I don't want that to be restricted through this grant program. So we are taking a look at all those as we move forward. I got a question. How much how much money did Dearburn County get through the Stellar program? So, I don't know the exact It's an estimated uh $8 million, right? 1 million of which has the potential to go to just this park. The Stellar Grant was made up of a number of different grant different agencies, DNR, IEDC, a number of them, but this one was this was the only project that worked within that grant. Why? because I did in the notes I noticed this was the only one we were focused on but I realized this is probably the only one in the county other two are in the city well they're city one but they're also looking at the

historic buildings um they're also looking at the north Dearborn village um senior housing senior housing deal um and then community gardens is also part of it I don't know if we've really gotten into the dive of where those are going to be um but there a couple other smaller grant processes that are in county outside of Greenale and Dillsboro, but and then also it says it's reimburseable. So, that's right. They're not going to get our money back. No, but it's a 50/50 basically a one to one. So, if we raise the $1 million, they're matching our 1 million. If we only raise $600,000, um they're only matching 600,000. So, it's not reimburseable. Yeah. What's the reimburseable? Where'd you see that? What the idea was was that maybe we we get paid back and it would go back into the general fund. Let's hypothet Morris has already been clear that that's not how this works, but I'm using this as an example. Oh, if they there's a match, but yes, there's a you have to spend it, they reimburse as that. It's a reimburseable, but matching funds. Okay. But it's not reimburseed in the sense that we're going to get a check back for that amount. No, it's re it's just reimburse the money we spend for that. It's amount. Where's the money go? What's that? Where do the money when you get it paid back? Where does it go? You don't get money and then the project gets reimbured. Yes. The phrasing is a little awkward. Yes. So basically as a simple example, if we put up $1 and $100 and they put up $100, when reimbursement time comes, we don't get our $100 back. All we get is their $100 back that we spent.

You get the improvement. Yes. You get the match. It's a match. Yes. We spend $100, we get $200 worth of improvement. accurate, but we pay for a hundred of them. Correct. Right. Because it has to be matched in order to get the money from the city through through the stellar pathways. So, Connie, is the best route forward is to work on approving or disproving the match and then the additionals or how would you suggest we proceed on this? I mean, I would do the additional appropriation and then I don't know if they want to change this one million and put contingent on what you have or I mean I don't know how you want to do that. I think we have to either that sheet that you have in our packet that has the contingent on there that the grant request approval is contingent on the amount of funds raised by the date of the application deadline August 1st, 2025. Did that satisfy it? Well, I just think it needs to be clear that we're not authorizing a million dollars. We're authorizing signed. Pardon me. The commissioner's already signed. But we can certainly add that um condition on there. But you suggest we do their additionals first. Okay. Back to the additional. So, I I'm read I read what Nicole wrote here and then I'm looking at another sheet. So, am am I right to say that if we approve what you're asking for tonight, the park board's match to date will be 250,000. Uh well, right now there's already been 320,000 secured. No, I mean that's the park. Just what the park boards. Uh I see 120,000 and I'm seeing another request for 130,000 tonight. That equals 250,000. Is that correct to date? Yes.

To date. Yeah. If that 130 is approved 134 2025 is what we're asking. That's a little bit more than what Gan had proposed spending on the the bike path originally. It was like 230, right? Yes. But originally the stellar pathways were delayed. But I guess the question is too since a few years ago the uh the the riverboat gaming revenue went from 1% of the park to 3%. So what what is the park's balance right now? Jean, you want to fill the All right. Right now in the 1179 park and recreation if we include that 120,000 it would be around $474,000 but that 120 is already year mark. So that would reduce it to like 350,000. Okay. Then we have 52,000 and then we have the fiscal bank we have about 36,000 372. So, so you guys you guys still have a balance of 372,000 which the 130 would come off of there, right? Which would still give you a balance of approximately 240,000. Yeah. We just wanted to make sure because obviously you never know what's going to happen and we still have four other parks to tend to, right? Um, so we wanted to make sure that we were putting together a good effort to do our part with this while at the same time, uh, trying to make sure that we kept in focus that it's in everybody's interest. I think it'd be prudent to to put more of the park money towards the match and if something happened, like you said, then come back and ask for an appropriation, you know, from the other part of that, too, is as we're looking through the three years. Um so that's why in discussions at the park board meeting um I explained the 3% to them um and noted um to where those additional years of possibly raising you know at

least we're looking at 35,000 right now for 26 and 27 but potentially more just because it's the 3% is really unknown. Um but at least they were willing at the time by a lot more than the 75,000 year ear marking for next year. Yeah, but we're we can only approve what's been advertised. Yeah. And we can't we can't approve. No, I understand. The only thing we can do tonight. No, I I'm I understand. Yeah. The only thing we can That's what the board has looked at and looking towards the future trying to get to this million and just a rough estimate. You know, I'm talking to Leah. um or just throwing numbers out in general and say it's 150,000 for the 3% a year, taking half of that for one park or the next couple years. That was their thought thought process um to help towards that million dollars knowing that there's four other parks to still take care of leaving the other half of that um for those parks. So given this plan here, has the part board looked at, okay, if we're looking at a $2 million project, if we have like 1.2 million instead of 2 million, what would we scale off? So yes, we've talked to the consultant about that. What we wanted them to do is take a look at the concept plan. Um, we wanted them to give us a plan that has all the rings and bells with it, right? all the things that were kind of on the wish list all the things that came out of some of the public workshops at the end right before the application is due they do an estimated cost. So at that point, so in July, the end of July, we are going to be looking at that cost and saying, okay, what can we say this is a So there's parts of it we talked about because that plan's going to get a little bit more detailed. Um, and additional parking we talked about. I said, go ahead and throw that in there. We want to see where we're at

with the cost and if we have to put it on there as a master plan for the park at least it can go into a phase two or phase three because we will narrow it down to what we think we can get the match and what the grant will be. We'll basically have a priorities list and then secondary and then okay what can wait and we told the consultant first off the bat that giving us a master plan that everything we want on the wish list the top three priorities of course were the widening of the trails u making that accessible because that's actually a priority of the grant um the inclusion park um and bettering one of it is looking at the drainage bettering drainage also with the uh fitness looking at the fitness part of it as well. Parking lot and the yeah parking lot and some of those locations that need help. Um so just to give you another example. So uh we've been talking to the re uh cycling center. They have trailers out there. They take up some parking spots in the concept plan. We actually indicated a spot. Um if we make it concrete, it lasts longer. Still can use it. So we've asked would they be willing to pitch in some money too. So, we're looking at everything. Where is it placed on this? It is in the generally where they have it now. Okay. Right up here. Yes. This green area here. Okay. Gotcha. Was designated. So, um Thank you. And where they have it stored, which is a good thing for the county, but it does take up parking spaces that are valuable for that park. So, it have its own separate contained area. A contained area that's concrete that will last longer for those. So we're taking everything into is that recycling area is highly used. Yes. So that's why we've looked at making it last longer through concrete instead of just asphalt in the parking spaces. Okay.

D county government and stellar. Is this the only project that is in the stellar program for different county there municipalities? Is that senior center that senior apartments is that held by like lifetime resources? Lifetime resources will be going through that one. Okay. So all the county is ever going to be dealing with the only other thing I believe is the historic one which I don't know they did a tour of the yes home whether or not funding could be towards that. So that could have because it's owned by the county, but they were looking at that on Friday as well to see if that would meet any of the funding that's available for that. Who's they? So the consultants one Dearborn ID one dear IDNR was down Friday. Um they did a tour basically of all the different projects that are going on that might be under their kind of wings. Um and one Dearborn and the consultant at HWC went around with them. So is that is there potential for the yes home to pledge money toward your 2 million or your 1 million that you're need? Looking at the yes home actually benefiting from the stellar program. Oh okay. Yeah. So separate project been the same. So like with lifetime resources that was one of the things they were looking at is whether or not the yes homes could benefit from another source agency no match. Well I don't know. depends on all the programs, all the agencies have different rules that you have to follow, different matches, different some are 8020, some are one to one. So, um I haven't gotten into those because we're concentrating on this one, but um yeah, those are they're all different, but ultimately what it is is it's a non-competitive. We still have to apply for it, but it's just non-competitive. So, we're applying for that and we're at the top of the list, but we still have to do the Do you have a cost to date of approximately what this what you got on the So, uh we met

with the consultant on Friday. Um they had actually three designs. I kind of gave you the one that mimicked what we were working at at the table. We threw tracing paper over it. Um we got some information from Baba. We've had some other information environmental um environment. We had environmental review on the project that required. So we sat down with the consultant and kind of mixed the three concepts that we had with some feedback that we've gotten um and they've kind of gone back to the drawing board and we're kind of waiting for So then back to Tim's question, you really don't know how much yet. You don't know if there's $2 million worth of work. The goal is to I think his point is we don't need to spend $2 million just to be spending $2 million. No, and no one wants to do that. But just just knowing the estimated cost of the walking trail two years ago and then when you factor in improving overall parking lot with the asphalt, uh that's going to be a substantial chunk right there before you add everything else. So, you know, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that we're going we have potential to hit that number. Uh we should get you think within a month we should have the estimate. Yeah. Well, I would say at least by July because we have to have those conversations on you got an outside consultant. Who's who's your consultant? HWC is the outside consultant. So, I will also um explain that that money that we the park board is spending on the consultant actually is included in the matching um and then any any engineering fees will come out of that $1 million that as far as the match. So, it's not only construction wise, but it's also the planning up to it that planning, engineering, environmental two to $300,000 just in those fees alone.

Okay. I Does anyone have any other questions? I'll be honest. When I came in, I thought it was more like the county highway when they do a project and we pay up front and they pay pay the money back. I didn't know it was like this. Right. Well, I would think So, you got to spend a million to get a million. Well, up to a million. Yes. It's more like community crossings. You got to spend two million to get a million back. No, you spend a million and they match the million. Yeah, we don't spend it. We we we just match it. So, we spend a million, they put in a million, it makes it 2 million. Have to put the 2 million up front. It says on the other paper it says reimburseable. The details of that are we're still working out as far as because with the IDNR I don't know if we have I don't think we have to spend the 2 million to get the million. Well, you're not going to be able to because you don't have I think as we spend it I think as we spend so for instance roughly what will be included is um it's I'm estimating because we don't know yet um two to $300,000 just for what we're doing consulting wise for this and then for engineering plan because those engineering plan won't be done till next year at the end of so how this grant will also work is when we apply April 1st or August 1st, the state reviews it. I think they said they take one to two months to review it. Then it has to go through a federal review process. They're estimating a a year for just that review process. But like say it's the federal contractor goes out and does the job and then how soon does the reimbursement come after the job the project's complete? It's like other programs. It's probably multiple draws over the length of project.

So yeah, so somebody monitors the progress invoice. You do draws as you go. Yes. Some of the cost for like a short time with the draw request and then the state will it works. Um that probably happens on multiple occasions over the life of it. So the first request is $130,000 out of riverbook fund 1179 for which is dedicated for the park board. Is there a motion to approve the release of $130,000 out of 1179 for the toward the stellar grant match? I think a big reason that we adjusted the riverboat rate that goes to the park board is because we wanted to be we wanted them to make the call on where their money spent and if that's where they think it's best spent then I make a motion to approve the 130,000 from the park board account 1179 I'll second a motion a second any other comments all those in favor signify by saying I I oppose nay N Dan. Nay. Dennis. [Music] Mark. Yay. Tim. Yay. Doug. Yay. And I vote yay. Motion passes. The second request from the part board toward the seller program is $133,333 out of county general. The only thing that I would say about this request is typically we don't do uh this

sort of expenditure out of county general. It would be rather unusual. The only way I can defend it in my own mind is that we do take about $2 million of riverboat revenue and put it into county general. So with that in mind, I can live with the idea of taking 133,000 333,000 out of county general. In my mind, that is actually the source is actually from Riverbo since we do take 2 million out of roughly $2 million a year and put it into county general. But typically, this would not be a county general type of expense for us. Okay. So now we need a motion if there is one for uh 133,333 out of 11 101 which is county general motion fails for like I mean it fails for lack of a motion. The other item we have is your uh grant request uh application. And I think that the only way I can we can go forward with this is with the addendum that the request is approved and contingent on the amount of funds raised by the date of the application deadline, which is August the 1st, 2025. And we showed at this point when it was being done that you had approved $320,000 requested for tonight was 130 out of the 1179 and the 133,000 out of county general which did not pass. So it would be the monies that you have on hand by August the

1st. So is there a motion to for us to approve the grant with that condition? What? Uh, so how long do you you have to how do you earmark the money and still continue to raise money after the that's that's where I'm confused a little bit. Well, what I'm saying I mean she's Liz is saying what you got like cash in the piggy bank by August 1st, but you're going to continue to try to raise money. Well, what we were kind of hoping for is a little bit of promise from different places to um back us. Okay. So, as a back stop back stop if we, you know, we come short of that million dollars that it would come from council or some other sources because we can't do that and you guys really can't do it either. So, I mean, and and what happens if if you follow to the drawing board, ask the state how they generally do it because I do understand the budgeting for communities and they have to have deal dealt with that before and how they uh plan on doing that. Um, but like I said, uh, we plan on still working towards August 1 just to be able to have a more secure number. Uh, we still have meetings to attend and, um, donations to ask for. Hypothetically, if you got, uh, some company that says, "Hey, we'll we'll give you, you know, $300,000," and then you put that on your scoop sheet by August 1st. What happens if they don't come through with the money down the road? Well, generally so I would think that that would be as far as I would hate for that. What we would prefer is if those donations are set, they are putting it in the hand. That way we have that donation. That's basically what Liz is saying here. But but you you you guys specifically said the word commitment. That's why I was Yeah. Well, listen, by

August 1st, if we only have in hand $750,000, then the state will match $750,000 and we're missing out on $250,000 of state money. That was kind of the goal is if there's a million out there, what can we do to get the million? If we only have 500,000, then that's what we get and we get to do half the project. And that's what we were trying to avoid. And the other part of that too is in that process um so whatever money that we can have put in that application um by August 1st um that's how things will be phrased in the application and what projects will have priority during this stellar program um and as we continue if we get through the engineering phase which the engineering phase probably will not start till fall of 26 um so there is a chance for us to even go get additional grants that won't the problem is they won't be a match at that point. So we still continue to we will still continue to work. It will just be at a phase one phase two that we have to say to the state this is what we're doing. So that's why we're trying our hardest to get to that point by August 1. I mean, the whole process with the seller doesn't give us much time to get in there and um get the hands dirty on some of this. Um so, it's a fastmoving pace till it hits federal level and then it slows down. But um it's just one of those parts of the grant process. So, but there is a second part that we can work with that is outside of the grant, the stellar program. If we had to, we did raise money that was outside of what we committed to it August 1st. We still are able to raise additional funds that we can use through the same project. It just indicated as like a phase one. It could be just occurring at the same time. I make a motion we approve of the

wording that Liz just said that we approve the grant match for the amount of cash on hand August 1st. A motion. Is there a second? I'll second that. Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Oppose. Nay. Nay. We'll do a roll call on the grant. No. Vote against that. No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I vote yes. Motion passes. Thank you guys for your time. Appreciate you. Keep us updated on these funds of course. Absolutely. Maybe. Yes. come back. Yeah, we'll have actually that uh because you guys can believe have a scheduled meeting in August even though the application I'm trying to give you guys update. Yeah, we want communication to be absolutely good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next on our agenda is the health department. It's a correction out of their 1159 fund. I'm sorry. Yes. That's the redevelopment commission. The redevelopment commission. Is there money? He's just asking our permission. I didn't know they needed our permission, but apparently they are. I move we approve the uh health board

request for $630. Is there a second? Second. Any other discussion? All those have $630 for their PF. Okay. Yeah. All right. Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I nay. Motion passes. Circuit court is needing $10,000 for drug court out of the U opioid settlement unrestricted fund. Correct. I'll make a motion. Second. Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion. Any opposed? Motion passes. Superior probation needs a Jasmine to their pay scale for you. Does the state state mandate that and state sets that there's pay rates? Yes. Isn't that normally done during budget? It usually is. And he had Whoops. He missed it. Yes. Is there a motion to approve this out of It's coming out of 21101. I'll make second a motion and a Doug. We have a motion and second of the discussion. All those in favor signify by saying I oppos. Nay. Motion passes. Superior two. Would like to have some funding out of 4913 for an intern. Yes. In turn for summer. Move. We approve the uh $3,768 out of 4913 for intermission.

Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Any discussion? All those in favor by saying I. I. Motion passes. Different redevelopment commission. their hundred,000 toward the park board out of their own money and it's just the $100,000 that the redevelopment promised for the park board. They're taking council approve it for it to be released. They do. Okay. Is there a motion to approve the uh a question on this or a couple of uh did their current board vote on this? Yes. The newborn has voted And also actually they approved us a long time ago if I'm not mistaken. I'd have to look Glenn. I don't know. I just might not have been all the guys on there but most of them were in there. Yeah, I think so. And the other question was you know read about 1.6 six million in the West Harrison tiff. When the West Harrison whitewater mill tiff started, they got 1,382,000 from the sur. I don't know anything about that. I know I can't answer your question. Everybody wants to avoid it, but it's in the German county council meeting minutes from November 23rd and 2010. And why haven't they even attempted to repay the sewer district? Because there's areas of the county that need work on this sewer. I don't know anything about that. I think the sewer board went to them and there was actually something in the minutes that I think that that would open the discussion at least. I would think so. I never everybody I talked to

could never find anything. It was in writing about it. It's in right here in the minutes from say it says West Harrison Tiff District one,382,000 was needed. Well, I don't know, Mr. Mr. Lancing and Mr. Cross were here. We ran a sewer line down there for that. I don't want to speak without permission. Well, I was I was on council at that point, too. The I can tell you that we researched it to try to find it, and if we did, we were going to pay it. We couldn't find any supporting documentation to pay the word $1.3 million. Couldn't find I think we asked we uh it was me. There's nothing. There's nothing. You could couldn't find it. There's nothing. Not that I not that I have no contract, no nothing. I don't find anything. We look for it. The only agreement is between DCRSD and the city of Harrison. Yeah. And their interlocal agreement says fees collected by the city for the investment recovery fees will be forwarded to the district on a monthly basis minus the sum of $50 per month to be retained by the city for fees and costs. So to me, the DCRSD forgot who they were supposed to be asking money from because the interlocal was with Harris. This has been brought up a number of times. There was nothing with accounting, but the council approved the money. Yeah, I was on council at that time. Dennis was on council at that time. Dane was on council back in those days as well. The problem with the West Harrison Tiff area was not shovel ready. And the

problem that they needed was money, but no one had except that Don County government had allocated I think a total of $4 million out of riverboat monies to go toward sewer projects in the future. And because that property was ripe for development because of location with the rail and the interstate and everything else, it was agreed that we would release of that 4 million, we would release monies to have sewer brought to that location. Now, as far as who owes it back or not, that's between the sewer district and anybody else. Didn't we originally weren't we going to bring it down from St. Leon? We looked at originally I think we were going to bring it down from St. Leon. I don't think St. Leon had capacity after I remember that. Exactly. So, I mean that's not on our agenda tonight, but that's the history of that. All right. So, as we're dealing with our agenda tonight, the redevelopment commission has uh voted to make a donation to the park board in the amount of $100,000 out of their fund 4931. We need a motion to uh approve that. Is there a motion tonight to do that? Thank you, Doug. Is there a second? I'll second a motion, a second. Any other discussion? Yeah, I got a question. Uh, is the purpose of redevelopment to donate money to the park board? Is that one of their purposes? Well, I can tell you that the Bright Meadows Park is now in the Bright Tiff. So, that is within their territory. This is out of their general. That's not their discretionary funds. They got two different funds and the one can only be used from funds that came from that area. The other one can be used for basically whatever they deem necessary.

Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I I post nay. Nay. Motion passes. Lens. Yep. Yes. Next one on our agenda is Vince Corstadder. Mayor, how are you? Good. Good. So, I'm with um Mayor Swing and Mayor Milan and we are here tonight. Um we really just want to bring some some we want to bring something to your attention is what we're we're trying to do. So, as you know, Senate Bill One has really put the hurt on a lot of people, especially the smaller cities. It's it's it's very widely known. Um, my budget this year will go up my budget for 26 um compared to 25 is going to go up $14,000. I am going to um I would have gone up 176,000, but instead we're going upund,000. So, we're looking for every dollar we can save. It's It's just well known. So, what I want to bring to your attention is the 911 call center. Um, so dispatch takes on 29,447 calls and your budgets um roughly $1.8 million and the state sends you roughly $800,000 and change for the collected over the cell phone fees, which brings a shortfall to the county of $980,000. of that $980,000, Aurora, Marsburg, and Greenale pay $559,874 to the county um for the for the 911 center for 2025. So, what I'd like to point out is the population discrepancy. So, and

these are all these are 2020 census numbers that I I got online. I I just I expect them to be true. Um the Durham County population is 50,679 of which Aurora Greenale Lawsburg are 13,210 residents. We make up 26.1% of the population. However, out of our within our our um city limits, we generate 16,34 911 calls. So, which is 55% of the 911 calls are roughly 1.23 calls per resident. Again, 1.23 calls per resident. So, you all know that's not my residents and Pat's residents and Kelly's residents calling 911. That is traffic from Highway 50. That is tourism. That is industry. and even the casino which is and probably a few residents of your cities there are I'm not disputing that. So that's that's my next point. Um so with that the different county the rest of different counties 37,469 residents they account for 13,000 phone calls or roughly one phone call per three residents where the cities is 1.23 two, three calls per resident. So the the dis you're seeing the disparity. My the three cities residents aren't any sicker. We're not getting we're not having more fires. We're not having more police calls. If you look at on an average, we're we should be treated like the rest of the county for instance. So, what I'd like to point out a couple things also at Royal Greenale and

Lawrenceburg, we contribute annually $3.4 million in property taxes and you all know that 19% 19 cents on every dollar stays with the county. That's widely known as well. So, okay, when we do that, we we make up 26% of the county population, but we contribute 30% of the county's um revenue in property taxes. So, that's a discrepancy of about $446,000 on based on the county proportionally. So, what I'm getting around here to is if you applied the one call per three residents like you did for the rest of the county, we would average the three cities would average 5,435 calls. So what I feel and what the mayors feel is my residents, PA's residents, Kelly's residents are getting double charged because you all take 19 cents of every dollar per our property taxes, which I think you make the shortfall up with the Is it come out of the general fund, Miss Morris? Is that where I'm not sure where you're going. What? Well, I'm I'm asking on the shortfall. So, what shortfall of the 911 fees of the 911 fees. So, most of it comes out of County General. County general, right? Which our residents can all contribute to. Agreed. That's the general fund. Then we get build again. So, our residents, Dan, you're one of them. You get to pay twice. And that's We do that on a lot of things. Well, you're right. But we also don't use your services. Wow. We we we

have we take care of our own police force, EMS, our own roads. So we're paying double in not using your services. In fact, when of these 911 calls, we respond to it. We're not asking the county to respond to it. And we all know they're not all our residents. We know that. But we take care of it and we we appreciate all your help and we do. But right now, we are getting smoked on these fees and and it's it's getting to be a problem. So, and again, I I'm just trying to point some things out tonight. I'd like you to consider several things. I'd like it to to make it to make it equitable among all county residents because we feel this is a county problem. I think it should either come out of the general fund would be one idea. The second idea, you could raise the safety lit 6%. From 1.2 to 1.26. Um, that would cover the cost. That 06 is ne negligible. It's almost invisible. And everybody who would understand it's for 911. The we all rely on 911. We we get your numbers on the public safety lit. What's that? What were your numbers on the public safety? Sorry. If Liz, if you look at the bottom on number two, if you add 006 to the point4, it would cover the shortfall. So, okay. So, in order to generate how much money? That would cover up the $980,000. Okay. So when under current law and this changes I know it it changes law for us to generate for county general for us to

generate $980,000 to filter down to the county we would have to raise that rate quite a bit more because it is based on AV and it's divided between the county and municipalities. So 100% of that does not come the $980,000 does not come to the county. You'd have to raise that rate. I'm making up a number here because I don't know the exact math, but say a million and a half for it to filter down to us. So Greenale would get $200,000, Lawrenceburg get 250,000 or 300,000, whatever the numbers are. And that's the way it works. And the other part about that is it would be a commitment on your part because the public safety lit would have to be addressed by the local income tax council of which county council or members and so are the mayors. Yes. So it would be expected that the mayors who are in favor of this would be here in front of the public and voting yes to adopt a different rate. And I don't disagree with you at all, but my point is the way things are rapidly changing at the state house, that might not even be the case in 28. You know, we 28, you're on your own, right? We're on our own. We know that. Um, so with that said, I'm going back to the fact I think this is a county problem. I think it needs to be looked at as a county problem. At the bare minimum, at the bare minimum, I think the three mayors and the commissioners and god knows we all bring lawyers should at least sit down and try to renegotiate something to make it more equitable because right now it's so unequitable and it's becoming a hardship. In fact, um I'm going to do this number off the top of my head. I think we are at 158,000 a year. What do you Pat?

145 147 147 and Kelly Kelly's over 200 255. So, you know, and it goes back to there's no way our residents are calling 1.23 911 calls a year. It's just not not even possible. Now, there was a time when Greenale had its own dispatch. Yes, ma'am. We did. As I recall, this is this is anecdotal because I don't really know for a fact because I'm not privy to all the information, but it's my understanding that Greenell was very eager when their last uh employees that were in the evening part of the shift were retiring and Greenale was able to partner with the county and so I think a contribution from the cities is certainly in in order. Now, if you want to meet with the commissioners and and make your case, the commissioners make contracts with these entities. Yes, ma'am. Council does not. And I I learned that today. I did not know that. I I honestly thought the commissioners ran the meeting like the mayors do. I I had this is all new to me. So, with that said, um I would like to sit down with the commissioners and I know I do know that they generate the budget. you guys fund the budget, but I also need need to make you guys aware of this tonight because it this disparity is in my mind huge. So, and we all know and I think you know as well as anybody um before that when you when you um just like the sewer plant when all three cities belong work together on the sewer plant it's there's a benefit to economics you know the numbers just work better it's easier it's you get more bang for your buck or for lack of better words so appreciate your comments well thank you so I'm gonna reach out to the commissioners and maybe we can sit down

and start the conversation. Yes. Yes, sir. U my understanding is that there's supposed to be a meeting in Dillsboro Monday night with Representative Baskin and Senator both going to be there. May have some information. Uh because I'm I'm concerned if this is a problem with multiple counties and not just a different county. Oh, I agree. because I was on Dillsboro Council and I can I can tell you that last year the vote was 3 to2 to pay last year. Uh it just it barely went it's it's hard on a small community, right? We understand that. So I'd like to see all the information that they may bring to the table. Well, I I'm I don't want to speak for them, but I I have spoken to um Randy quite a bit. Okay. and um he is trying to legislate that instead of a dollar a month on your cell phone taking it to two which would cover the shortfall. That solves the whole problem. That solves the whole problem. Yeah. And we have we have tried to make that argument to the treasurer who is the person who's in charge of that. The state treasur and two legislators and some indiv some communications uh people. We all met with the state treasur and it was pretty instead of two. Yeah, we it was apparent he's not going to do it. He He puts the ball back in our court. That's his job and as a leader and that being under his charge, he should be taking the ball and running with it. Right. What was his what was his reasoning for not doing the ability? He has legislative ability with the permission of the budget council budget committee to increase it 10 cents right now. 10 cents would not have any meaningful impact. But if they had been doing that for the last five years on disability for 12 years $220. Yeah. Well, this not to defend him, but he's only been there for a

couple years, the current one. So, well, he was a former council member, so he knows darn good and well what a hardship it is and how they've got an easy fix. When I get my Verizon bill for $76, we went to 77. I wouldn't blink. It's stupid. It's beyond stupid for the state not to do what they need to do. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. We'd agree. And to Baker's point, I know where Senator Maxwell's office talked to eight counties in our area and six of them said it is an issue. Yeah. Okay. And I don't know which six were and which two weren't. And I know Commissioner Thatcher at AIC spoke with David Bodor Bodorf about canvasing all 92 counties, which is what Daniel asked us to do. His job. He asked us to do his job. Did they say how to handle it? Does the does the county charge municipalities? I mean, just Well, I I talked to my mayor's round table. There's there's probably 16 or 18 of us. And it was about a 5050 split. Sometimes most 50% where the county took care of it all or the rest were what makes different county unique and I didn't know this. I grew up here I but we are one of five counties to have three cities in it you know and until you point out that you don't even realize it you know it's we're kind of unique in that way and um it just that changes things so so when I was on council at Dillsboro I I was a former councilman in Ohio county so I called down there to find out how their 911 funding was and they seem to be okay the Only thing that they funded was in that 911 communications building, you have the life squad and the fire department, and they all pay rent, so to speak, to it's a maintenance agreement. The county did cover that for them. But what I was led to believe was that money coming in from

911 covered Ohio County. I called Switzerland County and left a voicemail. Nobody budget. Did they say what? I'll say I'll say in Ohio County going off that when I started down there with Mayor Baskam who was the mayor before Steve mayor now we split it 50/50. The shortfall that they had in Ohio County we split with the county 50/50 and then when they increased their public safety lit and directed a portion of their proceeds from the public safety lit to 911 we immediately called them and said we're not paying 50% anymore because you don't have the shortfall anymore. The difference is is Ohio County doesn't have a jail. They have a substantially smaller um sheriff's office, substantially smaller court, you know, courthouse court staff and things like that. So, they have they have their their public safety costs are a lot lower and they're not dividing their public safety up between three cities, four towns. That's what I was going to ask. The point4 that he alluded to adding a 0.06 to it. Where does that point4 go to now? the point4. So the the point4 is it there's a distribution to each municipality and the county and I know previously I don't know what the rules are with it now that we have the MS lit but I know previously people could ask for money off the top before the distributions were made um because we helped fund ambulance units that way before but now with the MS lit I don't know and as we have alluded to in 2028 it's all getting blown up anyway so yeah so I mean this stuff's kind of So, so I'm seeing on this sheet she gave me that all the municipalities get are getting money from this point 4 that that nobody got before, right? They all get public safety lit. Yes. Launchburg gets a million and a half, Greenale gets $700 and some odd,000. And the the point that I would like to make is those of us who are on council at the time that was adopted, um I think it passed either 4 to three

or 5 to two, something like that, right? But no mayor was here. The only municipal person at the meeting who spoke was Joey Lynch and she spoke in favor of it because she knew Greenale needed the money. Yes, ma'am. And we took the we took the bullets. We passed the the increase in the in the public safety le or enacted a public safety lit. And I mean we a check goes to Lawrenburg for 1.8. you get a check for 734,000 and you didn't have to lift a finger. So, I feel like I I never I just feel like I think we've tried to be good partners. This is what I'm trying to get at. I think it's very important. We're all neighbors. We all live in the same county. You're taking care of a city. We're taking care of the county. But I think that we all need to work together for the betterment of our citizens. I I don't disagree. I I wholly agree with that. I I I just want to remind county that my city residents, our city residents pay county taxes. The county doesn't pay taxes to Greenale. So meaning all these people out in the county, the roughly 37,469, they don't pay it to Greenale to Marford Aurora. Nor should they. Nor should they. But we pay it to them. That's the difference. only in this one instance. No, ma'am. We paid 19 cents of every dollar goes to the county and it sounds just beautiful jail and the and the court has we're not disagreeing with that. That's not the point. The point is we're we're getting hit twice. That's the point. So, it we think it should be equitable if if we're going to pay and I don't think it's that we wouldn't. We'd like to see it equitable. So, we'd like to see our 13,000 residents pay I can't do this in my head real quick. It' be

26% of the 911 fees instead of 58%. Okay. Well, I hear what you're saying. I think that like we talked about earlier, the conversation would be with the commissioners and and we're going to take it up. So, I again, thank you for your time. It was just a point I needed to bring to everybody's attention. So, thank you. Y Thank you very much. Thanks, Mitch. Thank you. I have a question for Andy. Uh, at that meeting Monday night, uh, since that's anformational meeting, could all council be there if they chose? There won't be any voting. I mean, you're not going to be there for any county business. You're going to be there to observe. Um, we can all go to a basketball game, can't we? No. Don't sit next to each other. It's only four. I I'll say I won't be able to be there. I let I let your attorneys know. I'll be in Bristol that night, so I won't be able to be there. But I also talked to Senator Maxwell and Representative Basim about this a number of times. So, thank you, Mayor. Yes, we appreciate all you do. When I did, you know, I go to these congress and everything. I talked to a lot of different counties, a lot of different municipalities, everything. And one way that they did solve their 911 problem was to raise the L. They said they took care. But that's not going to do us any good because it's all going to go away in 28 anyway. So it's that would be not prudent at this point to do that anyway. And you're going to get to about 1.2% about 1.2% right4%. Thank you. Next on our agenda is a with a salary ordinance. This will require everyone's signature. So, please stick

around on Yes. Okay. So, there's some changes in the salary ordinance that we need to approve. Is there a motion to approve the salary ordinance? Would everybody speak at once? We need a motion to approve. Make the motion. Thank you. Need a second to approve the salary ordinance. So, move. All those in favor signify by saying I oppose. Nay. Motion passes and this will require everyone's signature so please don't leave. Uh minutes were emailed to everyone. Is there a motion to approve the minutes? So move. Is there a second? Second. Timot. That was Tim and yes. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion passes. Is there a motion for adjournment? I got a question this on our county departments. Is is there a limit of how much they can spend before it has to be put out for bids? Like is it 5,000, 10,000 or say if a department head has somebody that they want to do the job, can they just hand them the job? I thought it was 25,000. That's what I thought like on major or like 25 projects. that on any anything or I don't know the answer to that for sure. Hold on. Let me pull it up real quick. Um, so what you have are you have purchasing agents. Um, you just had to sign, not us. That was the minutes. We need to sign the salary.

Okay. Is there a motion to So, so by within by statute for purchasing services, so if you're using an engineer, a plumber, or things like that, purchasing services, you get to make your own rules. Um there's no there's no monetary criteria criteria by statute. So, purchasing services, the rules that have been set by the county are that the purchasing agents and your purchasing agents um the purchasing agency is the council purchasing agents are each elected county official, each judge, the county county highway supervisor and the county highway engineer and other county employees as designated in time. Um but they are limited on services um of for contracts not to exceed one year and for $25,000 is their limit. Is it is that a cumulative limit or is that just it's per per ser like Yeah. And then uh sorry and then your supplies purchase of supplies is 25 also. Okay. 25,000. And then if you're doing a public works project that's a whole other area legislation changed that this year as well. So, we do have rules. Yes. And if they're broke, the state board finds it. If this if they are broke, then Connie gets yelled at. Yeah. this year. Do we make a motion to adjurnn? I know we need to sign, but yeah, did that satisfy your your question? All right, I'll make a motion to adjurnn. One second. You're going to second have motion motion by Tennis second by Dennis. All those in favor of

adjournment signify by saying I oppos. Nay. No motion. We're German but please stay and get all the signatures so Leah can take care of what she needs to. Thank you everyone. You're going to have such an exciting night. Did you? I just learned more and more. We're not in charge of a lot of money. You ate that one.