City Commission - Regular Meeting

commission meeting. Sherry, can you take a roll call, please? Mayor Miller, here. Mayor Cletus here. Commissioner here. Commissioner here. Dinsky here. Thank you, Reverend Bob. I had to look all around for you. So, this is our Reverend Bob from our drive-in Christian church for our invocation.

And I invite you to stand as you're able as I share this invocation. Gracious and loving God, we gather this evening giving thanks for the rhythms of life in our community and the opportunity to participate in them. As the school year comes to a close, we celebrate students and teachers, families as well, and rejoice in the promise of graduations and the gift of summer ahead. As we approach Memorial Day, we pause in gratitude for those who gave their lives in service to our nation, comfort their families, and shape in us hearts of gratitude and lives of service. We give thanks for this city and for all who serve it so faithfully. We commend our city staff and public safety officials for their outstanding work during recent events, welcoming visitors with care and keeping our community safe. We pray you grant wisdom to these leaders tonight to our commissioners and mayor and guide their decisions for the good of all. This we pray in your holy name. Amen.

Amen. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. You may be seated. Okay, this is our f favorite part of the evening when we have a presentation for Sergeant Jessica. show and broad. Please come forward, Sergeant.

Sergeant Sha has been with us for 15 years. Congratulations. Thank you, MA'AM.

Good evening, Mayor Miller. Council members, supervisor Fowler, and Vice Mayor Citus, Mark Swanson, public safety director, here tonight to do a presentation for a distinguished service award. This is an employee that's been with us for 15 years, Sergeant Sha. Sergeant Sha was uh joined the Tony Beach Shore of Public Safety on May 16th of 2011. She was a field training officer, a detective, promoted to sergeant in 2020 and is currently the administrative sergeant. She is a EMT, firefighter, and EMT law enforcement officer. It goes without saying how proud and how much we value our public safety department. started a tradition several years ago whenever we have a new officer sworn in that myself, a lot of the council or commission comes. But we also have residents there because most of these uh new officers might have come from another city where they're not as valued and honored and appreciated. And I said, "Welcome to Daytona Beach Shores. You're in for a real tour treat. You're going to be stopped in Publix to tell you how much we love you. You're going to be getting meals fed to you by several members of the community. So again, everybody in our public safety department, we appreciate you and value. Thank you for everything you do. Okay. Next, we're going to go on to the approval of our minutes for our city

commission meetings from April 7th, 2026. Do I hear a motion to accept those minutes as is?

I so move. I'll second. a second. If there's no additions or corrections, Sher, can you take a vote on that, please? And that passed 5-0. Thank you. Next, we're going to go on to our consent agenda. On our agenda this evening, we have three items. Do I hear a motion to accept without pulling any for discussion? Also move. Sorry, second. I think that was um Commissioner Conmos that made the motion commissioner card that second.

Okay, Sherry, if you could take the vote on that, please. And that passed 5. All right. Next, we're going to move on. We do not have on any old business this evening. So next we are going to have a discussion on item A, discussion on the future of the Tona Beach Shores Foundation under our first agenda item on new business.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, I met with the five members of the current foundation uh earlier last month. um they let me know that uh their intention is to bring their service to an end um at the end of this calendar year. Um those uh members are currently Harry Jennings, Lonnie Groot, Peggy Rice, Lynn Bishop, and Lol Wyn. And four of the five are here tonight. And when I conclude, if you have questions for them, they're available to answer those questions. Um, just to give a brief overview of what the foundation is and what they do for us, they were established in June of 2011 as a nonprofit. They have and have maintained their status as a 501c3 public charity uh, which guarantees that any donations made to the foundation are taxdeductible. The purpose of the foundation, as stated in their bylaws, is to support community initiatives, administer grants and gifts, and promote arts, culture, and community programs. Uh it's important to note that although the foundation benefits the city and is here specifically for city functions, they are distinct and different from the city. They are not a part of the city. Um some of the notice notable accomplishments in the past, you'll see our veteran banners going up. It's probably one of the most um loved programs in the city. Uh it gives uh folks that are either veterans or have family members that are veterans, an opportunity to honor them. Uh you'll see the banners throughout the city. Uh they are the ones who have started and administered that. Um, I've agreed to uh

but it it doesn't take much funding to uh maintain that because they've done such a great job establishing it. The city will go ahead and take that over regardless of what happens and we will begin to uh administer that. Um they were uh instrumental in raising funds for the original pickle ball courts, which is probably our biggest daily draw to the city. And also when public safety uh needed new aiming uh devices, they came up with uh half the money for the red dot sites. Um the way that they um are structured is a five member board of directors. Uh each member must be a city resident and registered to vote. They are elected for three-year terms. There's no compensation. and the board approves their successors. That's important when we get into uh the options going forward. The board has to be the one to select those. I think they're going to solicit input from uh the commission should you want to continue with with the uh board. Um so there are three proposed options. The first one is uh you could uh choose to dissolve and they could choose to dissolve uh the foundation and they would distribute their remaining funds um in accordance with law. They have two projects that they are currently working on and that's why they want to stay to the end of the year. They're doing something with the cams and they're also uh coming up with something to help provide more information about our court of flags and um and its uh origin. Um they could inactivate but if they inactivate we still need to find five new board members. They have to maintain uh the five members. uh that would uh put them in an inactive status so that

it could be brought back later should that uh be desired, but they would still have to file paperwork. Uh city staff is willing to work with whomever um continues that on should we decide to go in that direction. And then the third option, and this is what staff is recommending, is that we continue operations and work with the foundation to identify five new board members and uh work with the foundation through the end of the calendar year for a smooth transition. Okay. Thank you. First of all, when you say CAM, I'm sure most people know what that is, but can you clarify? Uh the the condo managers.

Okay. Just want to make sure before we go to this, I just want to thank each and every one of you. I cannot tell you the number of compliments I get on the banners that you've done. The red dot was fantastic, the pickle ball, but I think I get the most feedback on those. Um, what a nice thing that you do for our um veterans. Appreciate it. So, could you give them a round of applause? So here on the dis let's have a discussion. Um can I go to you first vice mayor? Do you have any questions or any of these that appeal to you the most?

I think I would like to see it continued. I think it's getting citizens involvement. In fact, former mayor Jennings got me involved when we created the cultural board and then I got to see how a little bit about how the city works, but all those different concerts and the things that they do. And I think that they would be a great promoter of ideas, things like that, and work in conjunction with Director Maddox. And you know, we have a lot of faith in our city government and we can do things here, but it's nice to have another board from the outside looking in and giving us a different perspective and bring new ideas and, you know, make it a better place to live and and have fun in.

Thank you, Vice Mayor. Commissioner Economist. I agree with it, Vice Mayor. I'd like to continue it as well. Okay. Um, when we say continue though, I just want to make sure. So, does that city manager have a couple clarifying questions? So that means that they would stay on till 2026, but in the meantime try to solicit other people. It just gives them six or seven more months. Is that correct? Do you want to come up, Mr. With your help? Okay. To identify people who can serve on the board. Yes.

Okay. All right. So that would be the intent. you would continue to work till the end of the year, but with with the city and public notices and whatever we can do explaining what the foundation is that you're available for any questions, but to have some citizens that would want to carry it on and help then to educate people that have been identified to to serve on the board. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Dinsky.

Yes. uh the the the folks in the front row there have been a big part of the city for many years, but the foundation uh when I was public safety director uh came through uh when we were uh trying to um sort of keep our officers a lot safer and uh Harry and his group came through and that the foundation was wonderful for for the public safety department and obviously with the veterans banners and and just I I'd love to see you keep going. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Card. I also would like to see uh continue the operations.

Okay. And um I feel the same way too. You know, I want to I don't want that terminated. I think they've done so much good work. But my plea is to each and every one of you out there. A lot of people have come up to me and said, "How can I get involved? What can I do? I love this city. I want to be part of it." This is going to be your opportunity to be part of it. So again, um, uh, former mayor Jennings um would be glad to talk to you about that, about what it would require, but please, um, we're going to give them the option to stay till the end of the year, but that's only when they five find five board members that are willing to pick it up. So please, even if you're not interested, tell your friends, tell people that live in your condo, hey, there's a fantastic opportunity in our city to do good. So, um, right now, Becky, is this do we need a vote on this?

No. I believe we've already created a consensus here. Okay, great. Okay, city manager, do you need anything else on that? No, ma'am. I will uh coordinate. Excuse me. I will coordinate with the commission and with the board and we will uh try to find the skill set that we're looking for and then identify people that fit that skill set and bring it to the board.

Correct. Again, thank you for all your hard work. I hope um it's probably going to be very very hard to find five people to fill those shoes, but we're going to try as hard to carry on the transition that you've started. Thank you. Okay, next we're going to go on to item B, and that is the settlement agreement and termination of public walkway easement at 2901 South Atlantic Avenue. Becky, do you have something to read for us? Um, no. That will be on the next item. Okay. Stuart, would do you have something you'd like to go over with us?

Thank you, madame mayor, vice mayor, city commissioners. The record, Stuart Cruz, community service director with the city of Dayton Beach Shores. This agenda item is a Tuscanany Shores condominium settlement agreement and termination of public walkway easement for the public walkway easement located at 2901 South Atlantic Avenue where the Tuskan Shores condominium resides. Just a quick background as to how the easement started and things that happened afterwards that are related to this particular agreement. In 2005, the Tuskan Shores public beach access easement was dedicated by the developer to the city as required by the city's land development code. The public easement walkway easement runs essentially from South Atlantic Avenue west, I'm sorry, east to the seaw wall. It's about maybe 280 ft long, 6 and 1/2 ft wide. And on the easterly side of the easement, the developer also in 2005 dedicated through a bill of sale uh dune walkover a ramp that's essentially 20 ft high above ground and 6 and 1/2 ft wide um in terms of width and also about 290 ft in terms of linear footage of material on the ground. Uh in 2016 that dune walkover was destroyed by hurricane Matthew and subsequent subsequently rebuilt a couple years after. In 2022 the dune walkover again was significantly damaged by hurricane Ian. And in 2024 there was further damage to the dune walkover incurred by hurricane Milton rendering the dune walkover unsafe by the city engineers. In fact, it was so unsafe that in 2025, a few months after it was damaged by Hurricane Milton, it had to be demolished and removed because there was a fear of collapse.

Can I just stop you for a moment a minute? So, when these um took place, these incidents, is that when it was um tied into the into the wall? Yes, it was tied into all those. So, we we had all of that damage with it tied into the seaw wall. Absolutely.

Thank you. So, some key considerations when looking at this agreement is the rebuild cost, the capital upfront cost that the city would incur if it would have to rebuild the dune walkover, which is estimated at $250 to $300,000. And that's just for a basic construction cost. It does not include the additional design factors that the city engineer has already contemplated. So, typically whenever you build a dune walkover or set of stairs on the beach side, it would be about 6 to 8 in in diameter. the posts um the pylons, but the city engineer has already contemplated that it would have to go up to 10 to to 12 in wide um I'm sorry in diameter. And so that would obviously put the the cost north of $300,000 and obviously as we know there's an increased frequency and risk of storm damage and destruction here in Vish County in the state of Florida in a whole. I think everyone is experiencing that. Um, and it's not only storm, tropical storms, meaning a tropical storm, depression, whatever have you or a hurricane, but it's also northeast. Some of you may remember that the beach reconstruction project for the dunes that was done by the Valuchia County um, the county of Valuchia, it was a noraster that basically wiped away the vast majority of those dunes last year. And in addition to that, anyone who has looked at the news recently in the last year or so will will is probably fully aware of the FEMA reimbursement uncertainty that exists in Washington DC. And finally, um there is an existing beach access nearby at the 2853 South Atlantic Avenue Park, which is essentially a 1 to 2 minute walk from the existing Tuscanany shores uh easement to that particular park. And essentially that equates to about 350 ft. So, what does this be? What does this agreement do? This agreement does two things. Essentially, it provides a payment of $25,000 to Custom Shores

Condominium as a consideration for their rebuilding their own beach access um uh access from their property onto the beach there is and also release the city from any obligations under the easement. So for those of you who have taken a look at the easement um in the audience and the obligations that are associated with that, there is an implied responsibility of the city to provide beach access to Tuscanyany Shores um through this easement agreement. And so if this were to be approved by the city commission tonight and it has already been approved by the board of Tuskany Shores there they're supporting this this action um it would release the city of any potential implied or otherwise obligation that exists under the easement. The next thing that would do would be to essentially terminate and be the first step in the vacation of the easement as well, which um would be following this particular agenda item to the adaptation of ordinance 2026-04. And so I'm just going to go through some exhibits really quickly. Um to the left is an aerial view of the Tuscanany property and you'll see that the easement is to the south of the property. It runs from A1A to the beach and it also runs over the garage. And this is another reason why I believe Tuscan Shores is fully in support of this because um there is a sidewalk as you can see to the to the right hand side, the street view of the easement area that traverses over the top of the underground garage and so remediation and maintenance of the underground garage um could be questioned at times because of that particular improvement above the garage. This is an aerial view a little bit zoomed out of the Tuscanany easement location and the St. Kits sorry the 2853 South Atlantic Avenue beach access which is at the park which is basically just north of the St. Kits condo and as you can see there's direct access along the sidewalk and along the beach um from the

ement to the park. As I mentioned earlier it's about 350 ft separating the two. And this is an even further um aerial view zoomed out of the area. So essentially this is a two-mile swath. This red the gold star in the middle is where the Tuscany ement is located. If you go a mile north and a mile south, you'll see that there's a total of nine beach access pedestrian beach act access um from South Atlantic Avenue to the beach. Um there is a table to the right that basically shows um that there is parking located at at least six of these locations and there's also ADA ramp um accessibility of four of those as well. There is um one that will that is being processed if you want to call it that at Van Avenue as well. And Van Avenue I believe is.58 of a mile basically a little bit over half a mile from uh the Tuskany easement. And the other nearest ADA access to the north is Frank Rendan Park which is approximately the same location, same distance as well. So with that said, staff is recommended approval is presented. As I mentioned, um the Tustin Shores convenient association. They have already approved and executed this agreement. You'll see it in your staff packet. If there's any questions for staff, I'll be happy to take those. Um I do have I we have a couple speakers but um Stuart can you tell me so the new ramp at Frank Rendan Park was the elevation that was at Tuscanyany higher than what that much higher okay

I don't know the exact elevation at Frank Rendan um but the elevation at the Tuscanyany location is is 20 ft essentially and I know since we've lived here in 200 2010. I believe that the Frank Brendan's room been replaced three perhaps four four times from that. That's okay. Um so um do I hear a motion and then we can discuss. Do I have a motion to accept as recommended by staff? I'll make that motion. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second it. Thank you. All right. And I do have a couple of speakers. We will listen to them first and then we'll make our discussion. So, the first speaker I have is Rick Brown.

Rick, you'll have three minutes to talk to us. Thank you. Yeah. Point of clarification. Um, I wanted to talk on items B, C, and D. Okay. Do I cover all subjects now or just be? Right. Just B. So, do I reclaim the remainder of my three minutes for the three more minutes for C and three more minutes for D. Thank you. Thank you for clarifying. You're welcome.

Yeah. For the record, my name is Rick M. at 2917 South Atlantic Avenue Oceans 10. This is a a time that I have long feared for the past 21 years. I've owned at Oceans Tens for 28 years now. I have watched continual development close off beach access point after beach access point. We state that our city life is better here. We welcome our guests. is the biggest part of Valuchia's economy. I think we just had a recent uh presentation from uh Valuchia County on how much the beach means. But nobody will come to the beach if they can't get to the beach. And even though I happen to live in a building that has its own private access, I don't put myself above the public. I'm part of the public, too. I know for years before I owned there, when I was younger, I couldn't afford afford there. you know, I had to rely on public access. And what you have to remember like vacating this agreement which was put in originally for perpetuity forever. That means once you give this access away, you don't ever get it back ever. So now what you're doing is following everything to the end. Now Stuart did a nice presentation. I wish you still had that up there. One of the things that points out as we all know the real estate agents call it the miracle mile. half mile stretch of private residential homes that has that section of the beach block locked off with the Frank Rendan Park which was destroyed for many many years. Um on the north side the city council and I'm sorry mayor you weren't mayor at the time approved this thing they call oceans 25. I could refer to it as Airbnb 25. It brings in a lot of tourists. A lot of tourists need to get to the beach

because that's what they paid all their money for is to get to the beach. But since the city decided they wanted a large Airbnb there, they're going to find a way to get there one way or another. Now, when Mr. Cannon's construction project held the city hostage for 5 years and closed off the park, we had wall jumpers, people climbing through our bushes, jumping over a wall. We're going to see that again cuz people are going to say, you know, and I look at this presentation, we'll discuss that later, where you're essentially putting way too much in way too small property and the city gave away almost a third, well, actually over a third of acre of city property to do that. We're we're putting ourselves squeezing ourselves tighter and tighter and tighter. So, I urge the city to think carefully. This agreement was done for Tuscany shores for perpetuity, not to be taken away from the public. I also question item six whether or not that complies with the state regulations. I intend to research that more. I'm sorry I didn't have that information tonight. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Mr. BROWN.

NEXT, we have Barbara Bova. Um, I'm here, but I I'm going to speak on Can you speak? Sure. Does she need to fill out another form or just change what item she would? Barbara, do you know what? Do you want to speak on uh C or D? 2853. Okay, that's a D. Sure. Let me know when you're ready. Mr. Gary Bova, did you want to speak or did you want to wait till item D?

D. All right. Um Jamie Cannon. Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of the city council, and my fellow neighbors. I'm Jamie Cannon. My husband, David, and I reside at 2847 South Atlantic Avenue. Um, as a lot of people refer to as that big house, we are directly north of this proposed park. Um, while the obvious is property value, we are also members of this community and we also have very legitimate concerns about security. Um, as we already have people hopping our fence into our backyard despite notices going up, um, public, you know, private property and such. Um, with respect to having it held up for 5 years, we are also a family and we are people and there are a lot of circumstances that made that happen. And if you if anybody in this room would ever want to know what their circumstances are, please feel free to come to me so I can speak to it. We are very concerned about this small area. It is almost as if we're trying to fit a semitr into a parking spot that is going to fit a Fiat or a smart car or a Cooper. There simply is not enough space. We are concerned about the um amount of traffic. This is the greatest place to live. Welcome to Daytona Beach Shores. We chose this place because it was away from a lot of the touristy area. We are a completely

residential area. While I am not opposed and I am very sensitive to the fact that there needs to be an ADA compliant ramp there, I simply don't see the space that is available in that particular space. There is a space Van Avenue as we mentioned half a mile and then Daytona Beach Shores. It's a half a mile. Um I'm not opposed to to an access to the beach. I just don't think it warrants a pavilion. There's also a ta there's already a table rather there and a grill. Um the grill has not been maintained um if anyone wants to go look at it. So I'm concerned also about the maintenance issues of a pavilion and a toilet. Um, the smell, the the people that are going to get we're going to get attracted to people that I don't think um that sounds very callous and I don't mean it that way. But um again, we chose to live in this stretch of area for certain reasons and the reason is because it's very pristine. It's very unique and as you mentioned, we see our law enforcement in Publix and such and I just feel like that is just going to be um manipulated by I don't know. Sorry, I'm losing my track, but I'm looking at the clock. Thank you for your time AND TALKING.

WELL, JAMIE, I just want to let you know, too. I think most of your comments um more like the other people do pertain to item D, but I didn't want to interrupt you, so I let you go ahead right now. So, you're welcome. So, we're talking again, let me say again before I call on my last speaker, we're talking right now with the settlement agreement and termination. So, uh, Jonathan Langford, is that something you wish to talk about? Thank you.

I just, you know, don't feel like that we should give up any easements to access to the beach. I think that we should have as many access points as we can possibly get. I do think it's very unfair of a city to require a developer to give that easement access and probably required them to build that that ramp whenever that building was constructed and then years later when it goes down they don't want to put it back. Now I heard the comments on 2016 and 2022 and 2024 but some of that is not exactly accurate. I mean on your own engineer certification letter which is on your website right now is addressed as to your cruise where the engineering certification letters based on extensive damage to the crossover structure and above observations made from site visits. The structure is in no danger imminent danger of imminent collapse on its own without external force. That structure was was constructed incorrectly. It should have been put on it. His recommendation is 8 in or 10 in round wood post. Instead, it was built on 6x6 post, which 6x6 pressuret treated post were probably not big enough to support that ramp and it should have been put back with the round post. I do know that Tuskanyany currently is building their own stairway and they've had to put it all the way on the other side of the building because that easement still exists. Uh, and that was the way that they could get it approved. They're putting in the round post as they did up at the the park just north of us. But, you know, we shouldn't eliminate any of these access points. And it it you know, I was here last November when it was standing room only and there were people, you know, screaming and begging to have, you know, to have that ramp put back. And I think that there are a there is a huge part of this community that still feels that way. You know, we're one turtle nest away.

If you remember the construction of the St. Kits walkover, we're it had to stop construction for months because a turtle nested there. I mean, we're one turtle nest away or or one, you know, something goes wrong up there because it it could it could be, you know, washed out as well. And it's unlike I mean, that that particular walkover has not been completed long, so it, you know, it's it's probably unlikely to change. So, I just think that that easement should be kept. That ramp should be put back. It is not just for wheeled patrons. It's for people with canes. It I know it helps buggies and all that, too. But there are a lot of people that could utilize that ramp. And the updated, you know, building codes with the with the ramp cutaways that have trap doors in them that lift out whenever it floods and doesn't float the deck. And the bigger post will support that that ramp and it will probably be there for a long long time. and that's that's what our community needs. So, thank you for TAKING any other speakers and again I see many people in the audience that have not been here before. I just want to let you know our practice is that we are very open to have you come up and speak to us. We don't, you know, address you back. We don't make a two-way conversation. what we will do if necessary we refer you to one of our directors in the actual uh department. So I just want to make sure you knew you know what our practice is here. So I don't see any other speakers. We have a motion and a second. Do I hear any I don't see any of our council that wanted to speak. So um after we have this motion a second. Can we take a vote please? Any discussion?

Can I say something?

Certainly. You know, everyone's passionate and there's two sides to every issue. The I think the function of the city and the city government is to accommodate the citizens as best you can. And I think that with what director Cruz brought to everyone's attention is you have lots of access points with parking, with ADA compliance, with restrooms. When is enough enough? I have an opinion. You have a difference of opinion. We think based on the information we received, at least the way I'll vote is that's just a small, very narrow sidewalk in a huge, very steep, in my opinion, uh designed to to fail again type of ramp when we're going to go ahead and hopefully dedicate uh um or already have one just a little bit to the north. And there are others within a very short distance. again to repeat myself is when's enough enough? We believe that we have provided more than enough access to the public and our residents. And then you got to think about where are they going to park? They're going to park on the west side of the street. And so then we're going to get complaints from you all about, you know, they're blocking our driveways or blocking our roads. They're they're dropping their garbage in in our in our common areas or in our homes. So, it goes without saying there may be disagreement uh in the event that the city commission votes a certain way, but I'm of the opinion I I try and use my common sense and my street smarts. I I I just think of it looking at the big picture. And so, I just want you to know that uh a lot of the things that we receive information you may or not have considered, but your opinion is appreciated. its value. But um I just wanted to kind of educate uh those people in the audience.

You don't care. Um Oh, I do care. You don't care. Vice Mayor, Vice Mayor, let Vice Mayor, let me stop you right now. We do not take any comments from the audience. We don't If you'd like to come up and speak, you're more than welcome. We do not do this in our audience. Thank you so much. Anything else by me? Show hands. No. Um sir, please don't do that. Thank you. Uh any other comments? No. Okay. Any other comments?

Thank you. Um so if we could take a vote, please Sherry. And that passed 50. Thank you. Okay. So, we're going to go on now to item C. So, Stuart, is that you again? That's ordinance 2026-04. Attorney Vos, can you read that for us, please?

Yes. Um, this is ordinance 2026-04, an ordinance of the city of Daytona Beach Shores, Florida, making findings vacating a public walkway easement on property located at 2901 South Atlantic Avenue, providing for documentation authorization, providing for conflicts, providing non-codification, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Thank you, Attorney Director. What do you have for us, please?

Thank you, Madame Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. This is the second prong if you want to call it that with regards to the termination vacation of the actual uh public beach access located at 2901 South Atlantic Avenue. So the adoptation the adoption of this ordinance would essentially be the formal process that would be needed to eliminate the the the the public beach access easement. So if there's any questions I'll be happy to take those. Thank you. Any questions for director? I don't see any speakers up. Okay. Um, do I hear a motion to accept this ordinance 2026-04? I'll make that motion. Motion. I'll second. Thank you. And, uh, Rick Brown, you are up to speak.

No, I'm sorry. I didn't have any speakers. We came up with this new system. We were all per we were all paper before and we came up with the system. Um, people are trying to talk all over each other and now even up here we have to put our name in to be heard. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Go ahead.

Brown again. Same address. Um, as I pointed out, once you give it away, it's in perpetuity. Now, with all due respect, Mr. Politis, when you're younger, and when I was younger, I had no problem running a half mile up the beach doing other access. But you, sir, when you get old enough that you have to use a walker and a wheelchair and whatnot, you may not feel quite the same way. Most of the residents that live along here are in that sort of a situation now. Okay. When I first bought in here, I was able to run up and down the beach, but now there's times when it's very difficult. What I find also extremely heinous is how the city approved a beach access for Tuskany shores with 6 to 8 in poles. The city did its due diligence and hired a consultant who I spoke to personally and he said they shouldn't be anything less than 10 in. And I agree. And as it was pointed out, and Stuart does a very good job of putting a presentation and put roses and lipstick on this pig, but I'll be honest with you, you're building the same thing next door. And the whole reason the city's giving it away is because the Tuscany Shores Board of Directors threatened the city with lawsuits. And now they're going building something even worse on the other side. Now, all the residents in my building, we always have to pay for the destruction to our ramp because the ramp next door always blows into ours and destroys ours. And we end up paying to fix it every single time. I've been here long enough to see it happen many times. Like I say, the recommendation from the consultant was a minimum of 10in poles, and yet you allow Tuscany shores to build something less. And when we get into discussion on the the park on the north side and everybody thinks, you know, if you got a Mercedes and you can drive all the way from your river mansion all the way out to the

beach and park somewhere, that's fine. Well, like I say, not everybody has that ability. And I can tell you as senior citizens with the theme of life is better here, beach access is critical. Now, I'm lucky. As long as I live in my building, I've got my own beach access until it's destroyed by the poorly constructed ramp. You know, I I'm going to be able to get to the beach. But there's lots that don't. And again, this city, I I'll remind you, you you approve this Oceans 25, which is essentially Airbnb 25. Those people aren't going away. So, you can say what you will. Those people are not going away. and they're going to continue to force their way onto the beach, whatever means they see possible. I am also deeply disturbed by the gift of $25,000 in addition to giving him the free access in perpetuity. You're giving him a check for $25,000. That that that to me just boggles my mind. Right. And it and in Stuart's presentation, I also wanted to point out that if it's built right, you don't have to rebuild it. Thank you.

THANK YOU, MR. THAT IS THE only speaker I have. If Stuart, I have a Stuart, I have a question for you. You can come up, please. I I think I need know the logistics pretty well. And you know, we've referred to Ocean 25 several times. Is that not direct access to what we have at right next to St. Kits? I mean, how far away is that walkway from Oceans 25? It's essentially right across the street.

Street clarification on that matter. Yes, there is direct access straight across the street. There is currently a stairway there. It's closer than the Tuscany. Thank you. Um, no, we we don't want to address I I just wanted to clarify. I thought that's what I was thinking in my mind. Okay. Um, is there any other discussion? Okay. Any other questions? And we had no other speaker. Sher, can you take a vote, please?

Okay, that passed. 5-0. So, now we're going to go on to item D. Uh, Director Maddox, what do you have for us this evening? Good evening, madame mayor, vice mayor, count city commissioners, excuse me, Nancy Maddox, community engagement director. I am here before you tonight to give you a timeline of 2853 South Atlantic Avenue, also known as St. Gates Park. The PNZ board approved and recommended to the commission amending the land development code by reszoning a 1.64 64 acre parcel located on the east side of South Atlantic Avenue near its intersection with Ridge Drive from RSF-1 which is residential single family to RMF1. I got to get used to doing that right. um uh residential multi-unit and P for public quasi public district. Ordinance number 2002-07 was passed on first reading on 724 2020 2002 and passed on the second reading August 28th of 2020 2002 72 sorry February 4th 2025 the city commission approved the selection committee's recommendation and authorized the city manager to enter into negotiations with Castle Bay Studio to facilitate and create our citywide parks and recreation master plan. On March 4th, 2025, the city commission authorized Mayor Miller to enter into a contract with Castle Bay Design Studio

to develop the city's first parks and recreation master plan. On September 23rd, 25, after six months of doing research, public engagement, and development, the city commission approved the proposed parks and recreation master plan. Could someone please shut off their phone? That's Is that a phone ring?

On October 5th, 2025, staff presented the parks and recreation master plan at the coffee with the mayor. Public engagement opportunities were through a master plan website, two public meetings that held over 120 attending, and a needs assessment survey that was mailed to all our residents, and the consultant received approximately 222 responses. the top four primary improvement survey recommendations from the parks and recreation master plan for number one Macauary Park number two St. kids beach access three sunset park and a Daytona Beach Shores urban trail. The public would like more shade and trees community another community center splash performing arts theater, walkable parks and multi-use trails. On April 7th of this year, the city commission approved to enter a contract with Zeb Cohen Engineering for 2853 South Atlantic Avenue City Park improvements for 168,000 in order to be eligible to apply for a Valia County Echo grant which is a one:1 match. These are the photos of the current park that what it looks like today. And as everyone has seen and of the copies that we've we've sent uh put back in the back. Um this is the a draft first draft rendering of the proposed park. All the construction is behind the coastal construction line. It includes a restroom with two bathrooms, shower and

foot wash, bike rack, exercise equipment, trees, shade, pavilion, pi picnic area, and playground. According to the National Realers Association and other findings, walkable parks are not just green space. They are a walkability asset that can demand a measurable price premium, attract more buyers, and enhance long-term property value. And I'll leave it and I'll leave it at that. Okay. Thank you.

Um, city manager, I you know, I heard some dissension out there. Can you please verify for me? Could you go backwards when we started the park and Rex that survey? I received one at my home several different ways. Did everyone in the city and can you tell me all of the touch points where people would have known what was going on please for me?

Certainly as uh director Maddox pointed out there was a survey mailed to every residence within the city and there were two stakeholder meetings. Um as she pointed out we had about 60 people at each one of those meetings. Um the consultants then presented this plan to commission and then pre again presented the plan at coffee with the mayor. Uh the proposed improvements to this park um were the number two priority presented in that plan. Okay.

Um Okay. So, um is there anyone on the dis? I don't have any speakers right now. Uh do um I'm sorry. We have a lot of speakers on this issue. But I'm saying on the dis Oh, this I you know, I've received several emails. Um yes, I see that here, Commissioner. I see that we have I'm asking first, do we have any from the

das to say and I'm yes and what I'm saying is I've received several emails. So I appreciate everybody emailing and I understand there's an awful lot of people here that want to speak. So um certainly interested in hearing what you have to say and and I I definitely have an open mind. So Okay. Um so is there a ordinance on this or just a discussion? Discussion. Okay. All right. So no motion can be made. You you can it's not um because I think Commissioner Dinsky had Oh, if you if you have a motion. Yes. Definitely. This would be the time.

I uh kind of unusual, but this is my anniversary of my 28 years ago I came to Daytona Beach Shores to be the public safety director. I've been to every council every council and now commission meeting since uh May of 1998. I've seen a lot of of things uh going on in our city and usually when there's an issue uh usually there's not a lot of people at our meetings but when there's an issue I always see a lot of people and over the years there's been quite a few issues that we've had a lot of people. I uh I feel bad because the staff did a lot of work on this park and um I I was all for it until I I went over there and I realized and I've been getting many many emails and some not so nice letters uh that made me realize that the people did not really understand what this park study was all out. And quite frankly, I believe that space is is too small for everything that they want to put in there. I I also uh feel bad because like I said, the staff does a great job. We want to do the right thing for the city. I can't speak for my other commission members, but I'm I'm going to propose a motion. I want to keep the walkway uh in where it is. Now, obviously, we need access to the beach. The more I live on the beach. The more access we have, the better. Uh, but I'd like to make a motion that we do away with the bathrooms. That we DO do away with with the playground. This is just TOO and I realize the city has we've invested uh funds into this because we I

believe that I know I was under the mistaken impression that that people in the community understood what was going to happen. Uh I'd like to keep uh I I don't know how much detail I need to go into with this uh what I'd like but obviously we want some shade. It's a it's a long walk. I I did it uh I met up with Mr. Langford a couple weeks ago and and and I walked along the uh uh the walkway and and it it could use shade. I could use a foot show a foot shower to clean off your stuff when you come back from the beach. But uh I don't even know how to put this motion, but I I do not feel we need the bathrooms or the exercise equipment too on you know and I I feel the same way too. I I can't tell you the number of people that do walk on the beach and that say I have no way to write. You know, remember again as Mr. Brown said, people are older. So to go from Frank Brendan down to van to try and wash off your feet and come back and a lot of people do use this access. I love this plan. I think it looks wonderful, but if you go there and look in person, it is it is very very small. So, um I I I think back to the days when, you know, I brought my kids to the beach and I wish there was a place, you know, some of you right on the beach, have the luxury of going back up to the restroom to if you have to go. Other people and you know, they live at the Grand and at Cloverleaf don't have that luxury and they are a little bit older. You know, wish we could have done that. But, you know, when I when I was elected into office eight years ago, I I talked about the will of the people, and I can see right now that this is the will of the people that you don't want this there. I don't I wish we had more people here, maybe from the Clover Leaf or for the Grand that would have feel a little bit differently that are walkers that would have liked that, but you are the folks that showed up tonight. So, I'm also feeling the same way that is very

important for me um that we listen to these residents and that we have that foot wash and shower and then that one picnic table that's there we can cover it so people can get out of the um hot sun. So, Commissioner Carr, do you have anything else or do you want me to move on? Give me a second. Oh, I'll second. Wait a second. Okay. And uh Commissioner Politus, I see that you did want to speak here on here. Do you

No. Yeah, I agree with Commissioner Dinsky. If it's adequate the way it is, yes, we can dress it up a little bit with some shade and maybe some landscaping. Um, but I agree if it was proposed in the survey or what was presented to us, those are suggestions. We ultimately have to act and see what what people want, what they don't want. And um, I agree, it's just too tight of a space to try and accomplish those goals that are in this artist rendering. And that's the reason why I second the motion. Great. Thank you. And did you want to speak?

I do. And actually, I was going to propose a motion to vacate the entire project. But, um, but again, if if you know, there's room to put, you know, trees and, you know, shade, that type of thing, that would be fine, too. But I I totally understand, uh, what all these uh, you know, folks have been saying. So, okay, great. Um, so I just want to clarify, though, at St. kids, they don't have their own stairs, so they use this accent. Is that correct, director? Okay, great. All right. Um, so we have a motion and a second. So, let's hear from some of our audience here. So, uh, Blake Schmidt. Blake, still here.

Did I say it right? Yes. Okay. No, they're telling me everything I'm supposed to say. Okay. This is your three minutes. You say whatever you want to, Miss Schmidt. Blake Schmidt, Ocean West at the Clever Leaf North, please. Can we hear? And I think Why don't you raise that a little bit? I think it was a little hard to hear. Come in a little closer. Sorry. Give her time back. I'm not a public speaker. Sherry, at the end, will you, if she's not done, can you allow her 15 more seconds, please?

Oh, I'll be done. My main whole reason for coming up here was to say looking at this and I agree with everything you said get what's there is okay except there's no ramp now I have no way of getting up I can go down those stairs I cannot come up those stairs and if I want to take chairs and an umbrella and all this other stuff I'm not walking all the way down to pick thing or the van or up to rendon. That's just too far. And who wants to load all this stuff in my car when I live across the street from the beach? So, that's my biggest thing is that if we're going to keep this, which I know we should, we need to put a ramp there that you can take your stuff down and people that want to BUY THAT'S IT. OKAY. Thank you. Thank you.

Um I'm I'm going to go back to our director Cruz. Can you come up here for a moment, please? Now I understand um so the meeting that we had and I forget what month it was in we actually even though it would have been a huge expense we were willing to turn tear down the the existing ramp we have there right now that isn't that old but in order can you explain a little bit about the elevation that that it was that we went both to the um resident to the north and we also went to the condo to the south and asked them would you please allow us to do this so we can build an ADA ramp here and we were not successful.

Correct, Madam Mayor. So, the Florida Department of Environment Environmental Protection and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation, they have essentially signal to us that the only way they will approve an ADA ramp at this location because it's so tight is if we were to build in front, meaning east of the rock reetment system that's there. And we would need to go either in front of the St. kids property on the beach side obviously or in front of the Canon's property which is to the north in front of their property on the beach as well. We approach both property owners and both property owners denied us the right to go ahead and do that. Um which is their right obviously. Absolutely. Um but because but because that option to build in front of their properties has been taken away from the city um more than likely the the EP and the FWC will be denying our permit any any day now.

Okay. Um, and I know we tried to be creative and think outside the box. I know our coastal director had a fantastic idea. Several people had fantastic ideas on what we could do instead. And it Can you explain to me one more time? Is it because of the narrowness or

So, because of the narrowness of the property, we can't get the slopes that's required by the ADA um requirements. We we actually came up with I believe it was 11 or 12 different iterations to make it possible. And the only one that would work that would get approved by the D and the Florida Fish and Wildlife um that that's allowed under the law is to build again in front of either the Canon's property or the St. Kits property and we were turned down from that. Can you tell me again what do you mean build? So the end the termination of the ramp would be in front of there or explain to me a little bit more what so depending on which option which

Okay. So so they they've already said we can't do this but in theory In theory, we would probably have to go about maybe 30 ft in front of each of their property if we're to go to the south or to the north. Um, just because the slopes are not there um, in order for us to meet ADA. So, under the ADA, you can't have slopes that would essentially have a wheelchair in theory just rolled down, you know. So, you have to have a certain incline and then a landing and then another incline and then a landing. So you end up with a with with a switchback type um design that would again be in front of either the St. Kits property or the the Canon property.

Okay, great. Thank you so much for that explanation. I knew it was something to do with being narrow and I just want to make sure I understood. Thank you. Uh Pat Sutherland minutes left. Yes, certainly. come on up now that he's like you said. Okay. And um we're going to give you a take whatever you need. Okay. Blake Schmidt for Oceans West. Um I just after he was he said all he did and said that can everybody hear her or not? Okay. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Okay. Um after what he said about St. Kits saying no,

but he said St. kids uses those stairs cuz they have no way to get down. Why can't they now? Why can't we say, "Oh, no. You can't use our stairs. You aren't going to let us have the ramp." I'm a big advocate of property owners have rights. I mean, we did go to both of them asking if they would do that. Um, their answer was no, but again, you know, property owners have rights. Well, now can we just close it off to them? Let them do their own thing. Why not? They're saying no to us. Thank you for your comments. I don't know,

Pat Sutherland. My name is Pat Stler and I live in Oceans 4. Uh the ramps, I agree 100%. I'm talking about rentals. Also, you built those town homes by us. You have no idea how many people have sneaked into our condo, have tried to use our pool, and they say, "Well, we're we're only here for a couple of days. We don't have a pool. We should have access to your building." We've had to put them out. We've had access. We're a nervous wreck. And now you're saying restrooms. I mean, we'll just have more people coming here that don't belong here. And the buses will be bringing them here. We might as well we might as well forget about Daytona. be sure is the way I moved in in 99 when it was the best place to live.

Thank you. Thank you. Uh next we have David Cannon.

Good evening. My wife Jamie spoke earlier on. I am the owner of 2847 South Atlantic. First of all, I'm going to say we never received a letter whatsoever. And the first thing I knew of it was when Steve Edmonds and uh Steve, sorry, Stuart Edunds and Steve Cruz came to my door to talk about the access on the back. So obviously I said, "Let me talk to the wife that weekend when spring breakers. We had a nightmare that put us off saying we would grant it." So then I met back with um Steve and we said that um what happens now? He goes, "Well, Think Kits hasn't granted it, therefore you haven't granted it. We can't do it." So, I never knew anything about this that was going on whatsoever until uh two of the names for Think Kits came to my house and said, "Do you know what's going on?" And I said, "No, we don't." So, I mean, I thank you for the toilets and everything else that I can't go in. But what worries me is the pavilion on the end. We have enough people leaning over the wall, jumping the fence, and looking into our yard and shouting over. If this gets built, it's going to be 10 times worse for us. I mean, I agree, yeah, the people need to get onto the beach, but this is going to be a nightmare for us. Security trash, the burning of the grill coming to our yard, and also as well, when you're walking up that ramp from the road as it gets higher, people are going like this into our house. Now, when we bought that land, nothing was like this. We lived in St. Kits for 4 years, so we know how valuable that area is. So, I'm just like to say I'm totally against it because of those reasons. Thank you. Thank you,

Ryan Murphy. Good evening there, council members and fellow residents. Thank you for your service to the community and for the opportunity to speak. I live at St. Kitz, 2855 South Atlantic. I'm here co-representing concerned citizens of St. Kits and neighboring properties regarding the public restroom picnic pavilion within the beach ement corridor north of St. Kits. Now, you took some of the steam out of what I proposed. So, we respectfully asked the council to reconsider the project due to its incompatibility with the site, the its potential negative impacts on our residential neighborhood, and serious questions about the eligibility for the Valuchia Echo grant funding. So, first, the narrow 38 easement corridor between the South Atlantic Avenue and the Beach has never formally been identified as a park. Therefore, it's been referenced tonight as St. Kits. We recommend that it be named the Douglas Cook Lane rather than St. Kids, so it doesn't create an illusion of liability for the St. Kits building. So, forever more remove St. Kits as a nomenclature. Second, there are two Valuchia County parks with restroom facilities oriented existence nearby to the north and south. So that alleviates that need, but also there are ADA ramps in those areas. So, uh, understand we're concerned, but when Mr. Cook deaned, excuse me, that easement to the city with the specific agreement that St. Kits would be given access to that walkway cannot be taken away. Third, the proposal raises legitimate

safety, maintenance, and environmental concerns. Let me explain. If you live there, or if you go visit a couple times, and I don't think a lot of people in the city government does this. You got to go do a site visit multiple times, you will quickly learn that that's a wind tunnel, especially in the evening. Therefore, trees would be the more optimal solution than built structures because during the storms, it becomes an even more violent wind tunnel and they would be broken up. Therefore, we urge the city to consider a far more suitable alternative, which is the city-owned property on Ridge Road, the west side of South Atlantic for which is directly across the easement. This location offers ample space for the structures and parking. It has ex existing utilities fencing for security and would eliminate impacts on neighboring homes while better serving the public. However, we are happy to work constructively with the city toward a solution that benefits for everyone. Therefore, a shower and foot bath are suggested near the South Atlantic Avenue to preclude people from simply bathing, using it, homeless or others using it as a bathing facility right there in our view. Finally, we recommend excuse me uh thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you.

Um thank you. Mhm. Doris Ortez. Orz, did I say it correctly? It's Ortiz. Ortiz. I'll take anything.

That's good evening everyone. Uh, my name is Darus Ortiz. Mr. Mayor, uh, vice mayor, uh, and everyone. Uh, I am the president of Oceans 10, 2917 South Atlantic Avenue. And as you can imagine, we are absolutely directly affected by both St. Kit's issue as well as the Tuscanyany issue. And so I'm representing the people in my building because when we've most of what I was going to say has already been said and so I don't want to be redundant, but I do want to say that the proposed location I don't think anyone has said this is on a location where there's a curb. I myself as a dog walker have witnessed how many accidents including fatalities just in that little span there and to build a public park there which I didn't even know that two rows of grass equal a public park uh you know it just didn't make sense to me and then to put bathrooms on top of that and then to possibly make it a bus stop as well it's crazy. One of the issues that we have is people coming from the other side jumping our fence and trying to get onto the beach uh on in our uh in the back of our building. I'm sorry, but what I am going to say is that I agree. I do hope that all of you reconsider and that I agree with the people that have spoken before me. Uh, I do want to say on behalf of the board, and I want to read this, that for the safety of residents and visitors, the preservation of community quality of life and the efficient use of existing public amenities, I strongly urge the town council to reconsider and reject the proposal to place any bathrooms, anything other than grass, in that area and improve the current safe and accessible facilities that are there right now. And just for the record, we

absolutely support a ramp for access to the beach and an ADA accessible ramp. And I thank you for your time. We have a motion um that the bathrooms will not be there. I have several other speakers. Is there anyone else that has anything that wants to be said different than what's already been said? Thank you. Um, if you'd like to come up. Are you ready on here? I handed my Yes. Okay. And may I have your name, please? Beth Campbell. Okay. Miss Campbell. You have that one. Sherry. Okay.

Hi. So, I apologize for how I'm dressed. First of all, I did not know I'd be speaking tonight. And I've listened to the meeting and just thank you for your service and thank you for all your hard work. It's really appreciated. And my question has to do with I live at Tuscany Shores. Um, we moved here five years ago and very much enjoyed the ramp, I think, as the other residents did. And then with the storms, there wasn't able to be a ramp. But my question is, it's becoming clear in this meeting that there's not not going to be an ADA accessible ramp built in front of St. Heads. And we voted in letter B to remove the beach access and the ramp prior to not knowing there wasn't going to be a ramp. And it seems that a lot of the comments tonight have to do WITH public beach access having a ramp where the public can use it. I remember in the meeting in November and Stuart, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what was said was we're planning if we can to build the ramp at St. heads if but if we can't we would be restoring the ramp at Tuscany shores and something about either within 500 ft or 1,000 ft of the ADA ramp that was at Tuskanyany shores a ramp would have to be built and if not then it would have to go back to the Tuscany shores so my question is what about the ADA ramp and and our obligation for that

as I explained before I mean we can you can get with Stuart after the meeting you know this you know just policy that we don't answer questions, you know, up here. I hate I hate to say that, but um you know, that's or we'd be here all night long with the back and forth. So, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Can I ask Stuart? Stuart, did can I ask what about the ADA ramp? Are we no longer obligated to have an ADA? Madam Mayor, I think I can address that.

So, our requirement is that there be a beach access. It does not say a ramp in the agreement. Correct me if I'm wrong, Stuart. We do still have a permit in, although we are not optimistic uh at the 2853 South Atlantic Avenue. We do still have a permit in. We expect to be rejected for that, but if it is approved, we will build a ramp there. Um or if in discussions with St. Kits, they they agree to allow us to go in front of their seaw wall, we would move forward with that as well. So, the city does still have the the interest in putting one there if feasible.

Thank you, city manager. Okay. And with 28 seconds left, so it's probably not going to happen. And it it's just sad that the beach access is going away in the ramp in your testing because we already have the ease in it. That's it. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else that wants to speak on this topic but something different? Then Mr. Langford, if you'd like to come up. Langford. I would just say that you're going to eliminate everything but still try to pursue the pavilion. Is that what we're saying? No, but I

So just a foot wash and a shower and that's basically it. Trees and trees. Okay. Well, I I guess that you know that's all I all I really had. I mean, my primary concern for that is just increasing any kind of intensity of use on that and certainly to where we might have, you know, putting more people in there because we do already have some issues with parking. Uh I know I've seen some of you guys visit and and you know, I know whenever it was under construction, you know, our parking lot and our ramp was kind of always full and uh and so that was, you know, an issue for us and so we just we want to watch that. Will we get to see the design of what you're changing before you do it or no? Stuart, can you answer that?

Will they get to see the design? Okay. Thank you. Before you put I want a clarification though when when we said that um I was still under the standing and I might be wrong that one picnic table there. So if you call it a pavilion if you put um something on top of it. Stuart, can you clarify for me? Um, I don't know if it'd be No, Nancy, I'm sure it' probably be you. So, that one picnic table that was there, was the intent, if we wanted shade, that we put trees there or that we would put like a top I don't know if that's called a pavilion or not, but a top on top of it. Again, this was just a draft. Okay.

Um, this is not stand. And actually the pavilion and everything that we were going to build is going to be behind the to line so that it would have been back on. Thank you for that clarification. Okay. So is there right now the pavilion is not going in. Is that what we're saying?

If you'd like to address that, Mr. Well, there's there's a motion right now, but I was going to again, as I mentioned before, I was going to have my own motion basically and to vacate everything. You know, we the city has spent money on this, but basically or to continue it for now, but again, with the idea that this is not going to happen, but in order to discuss this further, I don't know if we would need a workshop or whatever, but to have citizen input, obviously there's a lot of folks here, and I'm sure you'd like to have some input on um what goes in this or what does not. So my alternative motion would be is to either vacate this um as is or at least continue it so we can have further discussion.

Can I make a comment to Nancy the understanding is in order for us to get a um a grant or something from Echo. That's the reason why we had this tonight because there wouldn't be a continuous we needed in order the cuto off for the echo. I didn't know if you understood that you knew that. I do and and my my motion would be to to vacate this. I understand that. Um and uh and I've looked at this and I've looked at everybody's uh emails, heard their comments, and again, I if I were to vote today, I would vote no on this. Okay. Um is there any other comments?

So, I mean, I guess just the only other thing I would say is that, you know, hey, thank you so much to our officers. I've had to call them a couple of times to come out for homeless that are already out there without those amenities. Uh they do a fabulous job. I don't know how they do it with 37 officers answering over 2,000 calls a month. Uh and that's so just you know thank you to them and and you know that that's something that you know we one of our great concerns that along with you know increased intensity and us not being able to have a quiet enjoyment uh of our areas. it works now but you know a quiet enjoyment as it should be between you know like buffer area is for residential that's the way it is everywhere thank you so much

thank you Johnson um there are several different areas that have restrooms there or home do we have a lot of incidents I know we're responsible for maintaining Frank Rendan Park we have do we have two restrooms down at Mcroy we have something. Is that an issue? And can you tell me how we deal with it? Very minimal. And how do you deal with it? If if you do find someone, then we basically tell them that those that type of behavior is not tolerated in the shores of any.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Um, anyone else that wishes to speak um that has signed up is um do either one of the boas wish to speak? We're good. Thank you. Oh, Rick, if you want to come back up now. Just first of all, it was a point of order. There's a motion and kind of a subsecond motion and there was a second by the same person that made a subsecond motion. It's not I did not second. We're going to take Please state what the motion is and that's what I want to speak on,

which is different. you're now going in discussion on it versus a a pending motion that nobody was previously signed up. Thank you if you want. So you have the you had the the motion. Can you repeat your motion? Well, I'd like to amend it if I could a little bit.

And I think Chris has a very uh very good point. Uh, I'd like to make a motion that we negate this plan, that the city manager comes up with a a new proposal that will contain shade and a foot shower or like a a small shower uh whatever you want to call it. And we don't have any amenities there uh other than uh like I say, lots of shade cuz it's a long long walk. the city manager brings us back a plan and then we'll go over that. I'll second that. Okay. So, that's the motion to That's good. Thank you. But you jump. I appreciate you restating it because it's a lot clearer. Did I miss something?

Um, so on discussion on the motion as it's now been stated and seconded. Um, yeah, I speak in favor of that for right now. We do need the shade. I agree with everything you've said, but you do need to be aware, you know, and and Miss Campbell just eloquently put it. We voted on giving away the ramp before we talked talked about getting new ramp.

So, I kind of was the cart before the horse. So, now you've given away, and this is why I say I I'm going to call into question the state on this. And this was part of the city land code for those of you who aren't familiar. It's a mile round trip to get to a handicap ranch. You also don't want a bus stop there, okay? Nobody wants a bus stop. Nobody wants a parking lot. We gave away over a third of an acre of what would have been city property, okay? In the front end, uh I got to commend Mr. Cannon for an excellent land deal. He bought that piece of property that was for sale for forever because it didn't have road frontage that belonged to the city, but he got it for free. So, and he had had to pay taxes. I commend him for an excellent deal. That was pretty pretty good on his part, but it hurts us citizens and especially and and I I'm not allowed to ask you questions, but how many of you have actually walked that part? I'm not talking just once. I'm talking about I'm there every day. I'm up there picking up the trash because we don't have enough city time. They're picking up the used condoms on the picnic table. Yes, the used condoms. some of our Airbnb friends that we voted for across the street. There's no bathroom. That doesn't stop them. They urinate on the trees there. Okay. So, that's what we've invited into the neighborhood. And yes, I agree. We need a bathroom somewhere for somebody, but it is trying to put 100 pounds of stuff in a 10 lb sack, and it just isn't going to work. But you're going to have to continue to address the fact that people are going to be using it for personal encounters as evidenced by the used condoms uh and for urination. But we I agree this is ridiculous and thank you uh commissioner for clarifying that. But we do the the questions are

not going to go away. We just gave away the only place we can put an 88 ramp. we just gave it away and then we said, "Oh, well, I guess we can't put an ADA R." So, that could open you up. I know you're all worried about liability and lawsuits and whatnot. That could put you in a class action lawsuit from the state of Florida and from the ACLU and anybody else that wants to jump on board because I'll be honest with you, you know, when I was younger, I don't mind running a half mile at the beach, but senior citizens, it's nearly impossible. Thank you, MR. BROWN. I SEE YOU. DO YOU still wish to speak?

No, madam. I just wanted clarification on the the motion, but I would just ask that it not be restrictive because if we are rejected on the FD permit to put a ramp there, uh, Director Cruz has some improvements that could potentially be made to the stairway to make it um, easier for folks that have disabilities to get down. So, I just want to make sure that whatever motion it is does not limit us that um, at the park. Okay. And Commissioner uh Dinsky, based on that, could you redo your motion, please? I've been I've been doing this a long time. I've never made so many motions in my life.

I I think I mean, I think possibly um the city manager could articulate what you were looking for in the motion. He could do it better than I could. Uh well, I doubt that, but um maybe if we had a motion that the staff work with our residents to come up with a plan uh including uh shade, the footwash, and other minor improvements that would leave us enough leeway to be able to uh do that and investigate further. That's the motion I wanted to make.

Have a motion and a second. Shar, can you take a vote, please? Okay, that passed 5-0. What do you have for us this evening? Um, nothing tonight. Thank you. Thank you, city manager.

Yes. And uh I just wanted to add uh I was reminded by um our IT manager, we could potentially put cameras in there as well that would uh help more easily um more easily monitor that uh as commission knows and there'll be a presentation at Coffee with the mayor. Uh we've joined the Fus program and all of our cameras can be monitored at the Realtime Crime Center 247 now. Um, I told you uh last month that Max Daytona was interested in um switching to a condo uh from hotel. They came before the planning and zoning board and that was approved uh for the MAX to convert to condominiums. We see that as a very positive sign. Um we are working on a sign ordinance um in response to the business owners that spoke at last month's meeting. Um, we are looking at being able to bring some tasteful uh A-frame um signs that should help with visibility and uh not diminish our quality of life here. Um, it would also potentially allow for uh tasteful merchandise displays uh to be in front of some of our businesses. Um, the mayor and director Irwin attended the county council meeting today where county council approved an additional $2.86 86 million in a CDBG grant for upgrades to our sewer system. That brings our total CDBG grant award to $8.47 million. So, thank you, Director Irwin and Mayor for going there and getting that grant funded. Since we have so many people, I'm going to take this opportunity to tell you what that's going to do. I didn't have this on my sheet, but it's going to allow us to uh upgrade our manholes and we have some aging pipes. It's going to allow us to reline those pipes and that

should be uh vastly improved infrastructure. We're excited about that and we have about another $22 million worth of upgrades that the city needs. Um uh Maddie has worked on a CAM page. We met with uh that's um condominium association managers. Uh we are working on a page for them. We met with a group and they had a bunch of questions for us. She's already got the page up and running. I think a few hours after we met with them. Um, it has got a cam update form on it so that we are updating and communicating with the current cams. It's got city department contact information and quick links to common city resources. Additionally, it'll have a frequently asked questions section and uh the most demand that we got was for permitting questions. So, that will be there for that. Uh, the mayor was recognized by Long Street Elementary for her volunteer service over the years. Thank you, mayor. I know that was a uh a nice um thing that they did for you there. Um, in response to several citizens suggestions to change the name of the city to more accurately reflect our quality of life and create a distinction between the shores and other Valuchia cities. Staff is conducting a survey to determine our residents interest in updating our name. So far, we've received 390 responses. Uh the survey closes Monday, May 13th at midnight. If you haven't voted yet, please do. Uh visit our Facebook page or our website for the QR code to allow you to vote and uh if you haven't gotten a chance yet, Maddie sits right over here and she's got the QR code with her tonight. She will get you to that page. We definitely want to hear your feedback. And finally, Director Maddox and I met with the owners of the pier. They are in the process of uh doing upgrades to the pier. They've already done phase one. They're in phase two

now, which is adding a bar and adding about I think 80 more seats to uh improve the draw there. And then they have plans assuming permitting because FTP will be involved to extend the pier. So, we're very excited about uh that landmark improving this. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. So, we're going to go into customer uh uh customer uh council comments. Um I'm going to start off on something that's um was very um sad to me. You know, as a Christian, I received this in the mail last week along with two members of our staff. Our staff work tirelessly. We have the best staff in Valuchia County. I can say that because I've been all around Valuchia County. and for someone to send this like this. But I have to say if you send something anonymous that's synonymous with being a coward. I appreciate every single one of you from St. Kits. You sent me letters. You sent me emails and texts. You signed your name. What unit you were in. We listened to you. As you can tell tonight, we received two different pieces of um first of all this very nasty letter and then something else that was anonymous. Don't do that to us. We are here to serve you. You've elected us. Put your name down. If anyone has reached out to me, you know, I always call you back. I get back to you. So, I was highly insulted about that. I hate that I had to bring that up today, but if you're the person that sent this and you're new to our city, this probably is not the right place for you to live. This city again is life is better here. We help our neighbors. We respect our neighbors. Um, we have older people that are handicapped that I see people going out of their way to try and help them. That's what this city is about. It's not because of this letter that I received. So, uh, whoever it is, probably you need to look to somewhere else to live because this is not the community that's going to welcome you. So, thank you. My announcements, um, tomorrow, May 6th, at 10:00 a.m. is coffee with the mayor. So, we are going to have Cyrus Callum. He's a very dear friend of mine. He's the director of aviation and um so he's

over all of the airport. Come and listen to him. We used to be a two airline airport. Thank you to Cyrus. He has brought in JetBlue and Breeze and ALO. So, listen to him and what his plans are. He's going to get on you if you fly to Orlando or Sanford. He's going to get on you for that. But anyway, come and listen to him tomorrow. And then um to right after that and I kind of felt bad about this. So you know about the tragedy that we've had at the crosswalks, you know, this one right out here. And somebody said, you know, well, we don't really need to have this meeting. Yes, we do. We have to find out what is going on. You know, what we can do anyway. It's an issue in the city. So, right after coffee with the mayor, even if you don't want to come to coffee with the mayor, if you could join us at 11 o'clock, we're going to have a um sidewalk a crosswalk safety. Now, I understand that um some of our members went out to a couple of the condos and did this presentation and they said it was wonderful. So, if you could come at all at 11:00 and even let's brainstorm. You know, I don't have all the answers. We don't have all the answers. We want to know what we can do to help with this tragedy that happened what last week or two weeks ago and also three or four months ago. Same location. So, we need to do something about that. So, anyway, that's tomorrow. Saturday, May 16th at 10:00 a.m. is our annual Armed Forces Day celebration. It's located directly behind the Shores Community Center. So, come out and listen. Our um our speaker this day will be Mayor Fred Cleveland. If you know him, he had a wonderful course with the Navy. Was he a commander? A commander in the Navy. So, we're going to have him that day. And then afterwards, barbecue. Barbecue afterwards. So, we'd love to have you come on Tuesday, May 19th from 2 to 3 in our museum in motion presentation. So, as Nancy has talked to you before, the Brown, which was the CC and Hyatt Museum, is closing down for a couple

years. It's now going to be called the Brown, but Nancy has graciously offered our community center for some um little mini sessions. And that'll be on May 19th from 2 to 3. The topic this month is going to be UFO. What on earth are they? And then on May 22nd, as we always have, we're going to have from 6:30 to 8:30 our concert in the park featuring Taylor Road Band at the Shores Pavilion. Then I want you to mark this down on your calendar. I know a lot of us are retired and we don't work but um coffee with the mayor we always have in the morning and some people said but I really can't make it for that time. So once a year we have an event uh in the evening. It's going to be evening exchange. So it's going to be Wednesday June 3rd. So we will not have coffee in the morning. We'll have that meeting that night starting at 5:00 p.m. What I like to do for that meeting is again we have such a wonderful staff. I want to make sure like we are fully transparent and you know who does what. So every one of our directors will just have a be brief overview what department they're directors of and what their department does and so if you need any help you know who to go to. That is all that I have. So Commissioner Dinsky, what do you have for us to see?

I've said enough tonight. Okay. Second card. The only thing I want to say is that uh talking about the crosswalks, I had the unfortunate privilege to watch the lady get hit two weeks ago. Uh and at the end of the day, what we have discussed with the chief is that even when the button is pushed and the lights are blinking to stay put and give us some time, seems like none of the individuals are winning against the car. So, please slow down. Just give us some time and let them let them go through. Most of them, even though they see the lights, it takes them a while to slow down. It doesn't register. They may not be from here. Um,

be safe. And we're going to talk a lot about this, but when our city manager was the uh director of public safety, he said something that has stuck with me. Make eye contact. We'll talk about that. Don't assume because those lights are on. look and make sure that they see you. So, we'll talk about that and a lot of other ideas tomorrow. Please bring your ideas because we're open to anything. I don't have any comments. Neither do I. Okay. Um, so do we have any items for our next agenda?

Okay. Um, I don't have uh do we have any other audience comments? Okay. If nothing else, thank you so much for being here this evening, but don't make this your only time. I want you to know what's going on in the city. So, we have these meetings. We have coffee with the mayor. I tell you everything that's going on. You are a valuable part of this community and I want to make sure that you interact with us. So, thank you so much for being here. I'm sorry. WAIT, DON'T LEAVE. KRISTEN, were you supposed to come up? It's all good. Everybody's been here a long time. Come visit your local chamber of commerce. Thank you, Austin. I'm so sorry. Thank you guys.