City Council - Regular Meeting

one right after the other because the minute you start watching you know bunch pop up the little tiny oh my go there I put like a skylight in there and it was all dang but it was only 10 by put those things and then the way they figure out to use the little quarters that you know so nothing goes to waste amazing kind of loft area. You go up there. Yeah. Yeah. Cath was mad at

There was this one where I saw they the way they put in the stack of a washer dryer right off the kitchen. Yes. I was like, "Yeah, I got to have drinks." the dog stuff.

That's a really good conversation with him. Char out of town and we had a long time. She just died. Well, my son knows all about the laundromat now because he doesn't get home all the time to my house to do laundry for free. So, he and his girlfriend make little trips to the laundromat together. One way road together. Yes. Miss those days. No. No.

So, our dryer went out yesterday. Oh. So guess where I was last night. I think it's very on point in that we had this discussion one next to K. It's pretty nice. No, on 99

pretty good one, but still fun. I haven't been in one and I can't tell you for years. Clothes in the laundry basket. Take it up. Got to do what you got to do there. I would like to file a complaint because there is no coping machine. Yeah, that's been brought up. I told them to be a problem. No, I see your coffee and it made me think about it. So, moral story, I'm complaining and it's the baker's fault. No, Jeremy brought me coffee. I complain. What? Oh, no.

Text him and said there's no coffee machine over here the way I did. It's called council comments and concerns, right? It's the same thing. Just making sure the concerns is fun, but we're not here to break. If we're going to be here and I have to get up early as I crack a dog, yes, we have to hear.

All right. All right. We'll bring this meeting to order. 6:31. Let us state. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic which stands one nation indivisible and justice don't see anybody in the building. Is there anybody don't mind?

Well, I know kitties there. Uh, no.

Okay. Oh, you know what? Remember to see why I was like this. So many. Okay. So, no interested citizens signing up. It looks like we're going to get old house tonight. Nobody is missing. So, that's the Oh, yeah. Is he texted you? Okay. So, unless he shows up 90. All right, we're going to just bust right into it. Go to um our discussion items. Number one on page one, it is the library discussion. Um would you like to give a little background or Cindy?

I'm not library director. Okay, Miss Cindy. Okay. Well, I understand that you all discussed a little bit about the library in the last meeting. Uh so and I guess the library staff concern was an issue and then also the air quality of course and just in general. So I just wanted to let you know that we have made some strides towards um staff safety. We have made this uh bookcase. We put one of our bookcases on casters and now it spins out like this is like a little door and it connects to the circulation desk. So when it's closed it's not going to stop somebody but it would slow them down. give us enough time to get out the door that goes to city hall and close that behind us to, you know, get out of the building.

Um, I've been talking with Jerry about it. Um, whenever a staff member is alone in the library and we're open, there's people in there, they will be behind that and it will be latched. We won't be out in the library. Um, the library is never open when everything else here is closed. Okay. Um, do we have a safety concern with the library? Well, if person is over there all by themselves. Well, I get that, but I just wonder if there had been any occasionally.

There have been times when let's say around the same time that the park was being vandalized and things were being ripped off the walls and things like that. Um, I don't know for sure who was involved in that, but there was somebody in the library at that time every time we were open sleeping, showering in the bathroom, that kind of thing. So, it does happen. It's not all the time. And whenever there was a problem, we were able to address it and ask them to leave. So better showing you address it than ask. Exactly. Yeah.

We are We have a camera in the library. Um the camera will be on a screen that's in the office where Dave Rosio and I are. Um Jeremy's also going to be getting access to it on his desktop and his um phone. A lot of us do have access already. Have you guys set up um like a panic button if it works? Bright side is coming back out to install a panic button. Okay. Um that's that's good to know. What about I know we're going to have the panic button. I'm just overly cautious. A little CB or walkie talkie thing. We have phones, but we don't have any like little radios or anything like that.

Okay. And we do have a code word that we use in like if we call somebody and we tell them you know so and so is here to see you everybody knows us. Um perfect is Mr. Big. Not a secret. Yeah, I know. I was going to say you would have passed. So, and how about the reduced or changed open hours? Um, don't anticipate that's going to be necessary. No, that's fine. Fantastic. Anybody else with any questions? Are you comfortable touching the general setup that you have right now?

Yes. I think it's going to work well. You know, if if there's any cause for concern, we'll readress it immediately. But for right now, I think that if something was to happen, it would buy us the time we need to get out and get help, right? you know, just Well, in fact, you're only open when there's other people in the attics and people that are nearby literally a minute or less. Exactly. Yeah. There's always people around and I mean, I anticipate there will still be people in and out of that building, too, is like all of our storage is still in that building and people are still keeping their marches in the fridge and things like that. So, you know, right? Yeah. Their lunches are probably safe and

there's someone in the library now is that class. Oh, that's the English class. Yeah. Yeah. Cathy cartons teaching the children. I wonder what is she so worn out. She's a wonderful lady. She is. We're happy we can lend them the space to do that. Find that amazing. Thank you. Have we done testing the walls yet to see the extent of mold damage? Not bad. How do I impact the library?

We haven't done that. I had a structural engineer out. He did a visual inspection for for safety and structural in integrity. But if we want to do that that would require more work, more testing and more work space. When the gentleman was out to look, did he make any mention of asbestos and water tiles or the wall paint or anything like that? This building's extremely old, which means it probably has as best of the paint or lead or

built. When was that? Oh, 50s. 15. I want to say even before there was no discussion of asbestos that would require environmental consultant come out and take actually there is an asbesto stick you can buy and you can test it yourself for less than 10 bucks FYI at those

also like one better left Well, no. I only say that because it some people are very susceptible to if the water starts making the paint pill or old tiles come up, it will release asbestos or whatever chemicals are in there. Um, usually unless you want to pay a lot to have it fixed, they just put everything over it. So, um, but that's on the question I had. Okay. Anything else for that topic? I have more broad topics, not specifically related to library, but kind of structures at large, but I think that can maybe wait till a different topic.

Yes, please. Okay, we'll move on to um discussion item two that is on page three. This is the planning commission application. Um, I have a question. We still have the two vaccies, right? Are any of those three people that are on the committee, currently on the committee, do they any of them live out of town or is that spots? That's still available.

Because I have a a person I'm thinking about nominating and he lives barely out of town. A couple way. I can. Yeah. So, the questions Well, we were going to add some language or application. Yeah, the actual application.

Um, I guess when I was reading it, the word vision, people don't always have the same idea of what that meaning is when you put it in a sentence. So, I'm wondering if maybe instead of saying vision, we should say what's your observation or your perspective or something to that. Um, where do you see? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So what is your perspective perspective of the city of Dayton um currently or what is your uh observation or what is your most important priority or what do you think is the most important priority I don't know something wrong I think I I want to elicit them opinions and thoughts and ideas and I don't know if the question the way it's written does that. Maybe you could ask um how would you like to see David Ro next? That's a nice simple way. I like that.

And it's not too wordy for someone. That's rare for me. Never met a word. Yeah. I like the I you kind of like the word vision, but I I hear what you're saying for a planning commission. You're hoping that people will have some vision. But if we need to re but if you're thinking about growth that requires vision. Yeah. But, you know, that's the only reason I thought was maybe their word vision didn't elicit their opinion enough, you know, because that's what I think we're trying to get at, right? To to get their

we want to what we want to know from them is what they would like to see changed in day five years, right? What would that be?

Yeah. What kind of progress could you like to see in I mean, maybe that's what we should say. One of the things that I see in this a lot is a lot of the things like that where where it's like not philosophical but kind of in a way like like vision like their like goals things like that but one thing I don't see in this at all is like anything related to like land use code or an understanding of what like commercial is versus residential or something like that. So I think yeah there's like a baseline question that where like somebody should probably look at you know any of our documents before applying uh may be worthwhile.

We can barely get people to apply. If you put that in there you're going to make it so nobody applies. Yeah. But part of it is, you know, they have some idea and that's your educational worker experience and find out if it's I kind of like that first sentence actually, that first question, brief description of your education. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't want to be like making them think that they have to know too much. Sure.

I think I think Drew that when you say or interests that you feel would be useful as a member of the planning commission I think we're we're sort of touching on that a bit or not. Yeah. Mayor, if I may, please.

As to the question on vision, I've been in enough small towns to know that folks who are really passionate about their small town have no shortage of visions for where they want to be. I think that would work just fine. Okay. If if somebody's struggling to articulate what their vision is for five years, I think they would struggle to serve on this body. Well, our last applicant struggled to even answer the questions. So, I'm not sure that that is the right

I think you struggled to answer all the questions. It really was kind of flipped over. So, here I am. comment and you know love me over here or whatever. So I think the qu adding the question would you be willing to come before council and discuss those I don't think we need to would you you have to that's my opinion when I applied for planning commission I came to the planning commission when I went to the city council I came to city council I made everybody know I was interested if you're interested you bring your butt up here your show off that you're interested.

That's my personal favorite. Huh? Yeah. And we appreciate that you and I'm sorry we had to do that to you. You don't but but I mean I think it's important. I mean, if if they're not willing to even come up there for that, then what are they willing to put forth when they're actually part of? But, you know, so that's just my my two cents. Timmy, you got any opinions? Okay. I just wanted to make sure I didn't forget about you. Can we hear you, Kenny? Are you muted or no? And she's muted.

She's Yeah. Can we hear your voice? if you insist. Can you? Can you hear me? Now we can. Okay. Um, the system is slow tonight. I mean, I'm on dialup speed it feels like. So, um, I'll let you know when I have something to say. Okay. I know. I had to dial up when I was in college. That was the

I think where we could add the attend a meeting or whatever um right before they sign certify that I'm 18 and then I will attend whatever want to attend city council meeting prior to the attend. So then they sign I will I'm 18 and I will and I will attend when for my appointment. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think that's good too. Does anybody else have anything about the questions or anything that we can

because then if they leave a question halfway answered or not answered at all? Yeah, we can we can say you know we have some question. Yeah, it's pretty nice. Yeah, that's a courtesy. You should I like it. Perfection. Like a yes or no screen question. Yeah. If they answer no, I will I want to come to city council and ask question. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know. I think

it's one thing if you're being elected, but if you're being appointed, I really am patient here. Right. Act like you want, you know. All right. And three, USDA congressional direct spending grant update page 11. All right, Jeremy, did you wanna

My staff report outlines some of the details associated with our USDA grant and where we're going. any I did receive, just so you know, several proposals, nine in fact, from qualified architect engineering and representative firms to do the facilities study. So, we'll be selecting somebody very qualified soon to start this on this project. Excellent. Other than that, I'm just interested to hear what other questions or comments the council may have on this. I'm I'm excited. I think we're right on track. Yeah.

Are we still considering doing a seismic retrofit on the cannons? I mean, I'm wondering if that's such a great I am too. The more I think about it, the more and this this is of course something you all are going to have to weigh in on this council. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me to concentrate all of our forces on this facility right here. And when you say this facility right here, what are what is your vision for the next five years

of this building? I I would caution the council and everybody in fact to try to articulate something before we start in this process because what we come up with when we get it a design team on board is going to exceed what we even could and imagine. And I'm speaking from personal experience here and and just to clarify, we're also going to have them look at this building for us to move into as well. Okay. And that could include potentially expanding the footprint. Yes. And that is easier to do than from front side.

So I mean it seems like the first thing in this process might be just determining what use we'd like to or to think about what use we like to put this building to. We talking about building the city hall functions over here is I mean those are all perfect questions before we even get started because then we figure out we can at least think about how we're going to go.

Yeah. Can we um refer to the parks and rec that we got what the city what folks in the city were before in terms of um facilities and and well that's pickle ball I mean you know just all the things if we went back and look at that data it might inform us a little bit of what where we want to take this I think it should be it's fun to dream about this space and I've said before and I'll say again that as a performing arts person I love this space and I have a lot of dreams for it but I'm not sure it's about my dreams it needs to be about the folks in the town and what they're hoping to have facilities they're hoping to have access to so I think that data that was pretty thorough that you know we had a lot of data that as well in this share these ability study people

yeah I think probably before we are like, "Oh, we could do this or we could do that." Like Jeremy said, once we get the architect on board, we can he'll come with all kinds of thoughts and ideas and things that we probably don't even think about at this moment. So, the question is, if we don't if we're not going to seismically retrofit the Animus, then is that a safe building to really set up shop long? Long-term probably not. Short long-term yes.

So would we supersede that project by starting something independent of that or will we place that at the head of the list things we really need is to find a permanent home for the city for all. I think that's probably a pertinent thing. One of the most important things a size of our water is infrastructure. I see this one saying. Yeah. Yeah. be nice to have a I mean it's infrastructure that we need to have a gymnasium and there's a pool in the basement over there.

Just swim for you mineral death. Yeah, that's it. They're getting burnt and crazy. Christmas. I'd like to emphasize that if if you look at the request for quotes that was on your agenda when we first looked at this, it's structured so it's a collaborative process. It's not going to be an architect coming in and telling us this is how it's going to be.

No, no, I know. they're going to work with with you and the city team. And there's also a a town hall or city design charette where the public will come in and uh we'll have some options laid out for them. So, it's not from scratch because there's a tendency just to to do everything you want to possibly do, which isn't feasible. But I do want this to be a collaborative process from the ground up. Oh, yeah. with community buy. That's an exciting idea being involved. I think so.

And remind me this half million that we have it has a back end. We need to spend it by 2027. There's no hard deadline, but they want to try they want us to try to spend as much as we can by the end of calendar year 26. Correct. Okay. So the feasibility study or the that that's going to run us a couple hundred grand. No, no, that that's not that'll be less than 100. Okay. Okay. That'll give us a lot of information too in terms of that work, right?

And something we could do with this 500 grand is we might not be able to do the full project, but we could it let's say we decide we want to invest in this facility. We could come in and we could do we could do projects that are going to be versatile with whatever the long-term plan is. Like we could come in and do ADA upgrades. We could do energy efficiency upgrades. We could do things like that. But we're going to have to do anyways.

Yeah. I think when they um when we got the grant to turn this building into the community center, I think they did the earthquake improvements on this building. Just an FYI to keep it off. So, that's pretty And it's sprinkler here, too. So, I just thought I would have tip. Do we run maintenance on these sprinklers? Because they're supposed to be done every You have to. Yeah. So somebody comes in and flushes

all right. Are we ready to move on? All right. Are you ready to move on? Are you comfortable with this discussion or where we're at? Yeah. This this was just um an opportunity council to ask any questions you might not interested. And we will we'll definitely at least like to speak you for myself. I would like to partner with you in making this happen. I I sense that there may be just a little concern that you're going to be left. We're holding the majority of the bank on this and we won't let that happen.

Excellent. All right. Um item number four, public health safety town hall assessment page. Everybody was there. Oh, you were not there. It was it was quite a meeting actually. Yeah, it was a very good meeting. I I felt um pretty about it. I think people were very comfortable speaking, you know. I felt kind of bad for law enforcement really there because I just felt like they were getting grilled and and really that they were just trying to be there to answer questions. I felt like instead of that they were trying to come up with like impossible answers to impossible questions sometimes.

Yeah. Yeah. I was really uh proud of staff. I thought you guys did a great job. the one that stood at the microphone did a great job of doing that. Um I was really impressed with the law enforcement was at the mic. And then um Andrew and Scott your two um personal stories of why and what I think those were really impactful.

Yeah. I think so whenever people speak of from personal experience and how something affects them personally, I think you heard more of a hushing of them. And so I really appreciated both probably your angles on that and um I think it put a really great exclamation point at the end of the meeting because those folks were both at the end of the meeting. I was really kind of proud to be on the team when you guys were speaking at all. So well thank you.

Yeah, we should be grateful for what we have and really consider what we want to have going forward. That's really where I was trying to aim because I've been in a place where you don't have those services and you can't take it for granted. But I think people up here don't realize that those not necessarily something that are given sometimes.

Those who have Oh, I'm sorry. Those who have been here for a long stent like myself and Kitty and stuff, we know what it was like when we had services versus when we didn't have services and when we got services back. But there's a lot of new folks in town that don't understand that. And I think that's who we really need to please. Um, in terms of the community, you know, the thing I find interesting with this is, you know, we're talking about increasing to, you know, 80 hours, what have you, we had zero zero vehicles like that. And uh there was one person that said that they don't even need it currently.

Great. I mean, oh, we got the sheriff, so we're not going to wait for them. Yeah. The thing is is that we don't have somebody here regularly and we don't have somebody that gets to know the community and the villains in the community. Well, and and the good guys, the bad guys in between. Somebody part of who we are. And I think it's important to have that representation for safety here. So, and I think that we've been well represented from the various different sheriff deputies that I've seen. Gosh. Yes. You know, there when we need him and Yeah.

I know when I got attacked, our dog got attacked the third time on my street. And our current deputy was very good about making sure that he contacted the people, issued some citations, and you know what? they have done since then. Yeah, when you got 120 pound German Shepherd coming out of the back house, it's pretty

overall. I think it went well. I I wished we'd had just a people, but I think because there were some gains and things going on that they had an impact on whom all attended or not attended. Um I and yes and I think it's a a sign of times people don't it's get all the philosophy but I think um Americans aren't very interested in being engaged. Yeah. They they don't they want everything to go their way but they don't want to um they don't want to report.

Yeah. So I think the fact that in English I love this well I mean I think some of them al don't get engaged as well because they don't think they make an impact. Yeah. And so I think that's up to us to make sure we change that point of view. Um because where you have the most impact or say is in your local community

and and and it's not, you know, state government, it's not federal government, it's in your community. And so I think it's imperative we work to give that impression to our community members that we are here for them and if you want to get involved, this is where you come.

I had an idea. I was thinking about I don't know how popular would be with us as council body but I was thinking of on our Fridays our weekly Fridays do the summer DCS Friday I think if we had a a table with city council member we all took the terms just to be there counselor you know ask questions just yeah and chat you know I think it would be a good way to to represent ourselves to the community and and you know familiarize community with who we are and you know and maybe get people more comfortable with coming out of their shelves and talking a little bit maybe they could battle a little bit we get a feel for the false

what's going on that's a really good idea on that if we created some marketing for the levy we could have at the table so that some of those I think that's a really good idea I'd like to kickstart the coffee boardings too the uh I think you and I next couple I know a couple spots for coffee and and maybe dependent. Oh, where what spots do we pick? Where?

Couple different spots. The I know it's out of city limits, but it's going to involve people that live in Dayton. So, the Grand Ron uh or not Grand R. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they do. A lot of the farmers will go there, right? And then the pirates pirates people have a lot of people that have been around here a long time. So that's the ladies that I'll have coffee in there, too. Yeah. When's the next street news? It will be coming out beginning of March. March. Yeah. When's the deadline to add to it?

Now. Tomorrow. Yesterday. Uh maybe you and I sidebar after she's going to find a date and we can have a know uh and then we can get that in the books. That'd be cool extended. I mean, I can't wait till Wednesday, but Oh, no.

Wednesday versus tomorrow makes it sound like I have more time. Somebody said less speeding tickets. Everybody at that meeting was speeding tickets and somebody actually commented less speeding tickets. They're probably They must have got a speeding ticket. That's why I always try to be really careful that I didn't It should have been fewer.

Yeah. Well, and one of the things that I see with this is like be present in all areas of town, not just the main streets. I'd like to see a more active patrol on the side road. Like these things are I feel in direct opposition to how little interest there was in more. And so I just I I'm I'm struggling a little bit personally because I'm like there even at the meeting there's a lot of commentary around, you know, wanting more of specific services like patrol on walls, things like that. But, you know, Deputy Twitchel talked about what his day entails. And for one person for a week, like these wants just aren't realistic. And so, you know, the only in my mind, the only like real option to address those wants is to go up to 80 hours. But, you know, with zero interest in increasing those patrol hours, I I wonder where that disconnect is. Um, if it's in the information, if it's just a it is a really complicated problem. I think it's some people are unable to how do I want to say this um I don't know concrete they don't have the capacity to get from understanding point A to point B in some circumstances

they don't then they don't see the need it doesn't impact them I think that's the the hurdle though is all this stuff does impact them they don't see it. And so, so how do we get them to see that? And what do we need to do to communicate that? I don't think it's the information. I think it's maybe the way that we're Did we have uh or do we have the capacity of having like a slideshow, right? Here's the the park down.

They we gave them a slideshow. It showed them this little sliver was all speeding tickets made, but we got the question three times. Well, and I think the the hard part is, you know, to the mayor's point, like there was a lot of information. There was a lot of good information like it was in, you know, PowerPoint form, the sheriff's presentation was really good. You know, deputy deputy touch talking about it's really beneficial and so all the information was there. I think the the problem is distilling all that information into a way that can be absorbed. Um, and that's that's our hurdle to solve, you know, because we've got six months to solve. So, give or take. We can we can I think we're going to get majority of the community but there are going to be community members no matter what we say or however we deliver it they ain't going to get it.

That's okay. I mean whoever wrote that I want more of this they have to understand okay then we need more we need more hours someone here

like that. I mean, they were having a rough time even getting conceptually that speeding tickets don't make enough money to pay for services. I mean, they were like, "Well, just write more speeding tickets." It's not that simple. And if you can't get people to understand that, how are they really, no matter how you spoon feed it to them, are they really going to get it? There's just some people that aren't going to get it. So I was as you guys know was a nurse for 25 years still am and teaching is a big part of our job and I think there's a lot of people here educators in different ways and in our jobs we always educate people especially working with publicans. So the thing that I found in in people in general is we have one subject and people understand it in as many different ways as our people. Yeah.

And the only way to get through that is to talk to individuals and ask an individual question. So like my question would be yeah we need sheriffs more around the city and I would agree with that for a couple different reasons. For one we had a guy running around here with one of those tail lights and burning off and you know that' be a good reason to have a sheriff running around the city or the old deputy you know or we have some shady character sitting over by the school. That's another good reason to have the sheriff you know or there's a house that a lot of people look like they're going in there buying drugs. So what if when a person says, "Hey, we need the sheriff in other parts of town." My question to them is, "Okay, so why would you want us to have the sheriff in those other parts of town? What are those things that are going on that?" And I think that if we were in that booth on on Fridays would be a good way to get to We could ask those questions, you know, I would be happy to ask that, you know, oh yeah, I would like to see that that other parts of town. What specifically were you thinking about? What's your thing? What's your what do you need, you know?

Well, Nippy Twitch's there almost every Friday night, too. Yeah. Exactly.

So, you know, we have the resource. So, to to your point, if you you know, if you have us there to have the one-on-one conversations, you have the marketing materials there, whether it's A-frame inserts, you know, banners, you know, you have binders with collateral like dives in there for anybody who really wants to get in the weeds, you know, but you we have those conversations, we have the deputy there. I think you to your point that is a great access to get that information where it needs to go. We would need to do a few things. We would need to talk to TCDA and let me know that that we're going to ask for a spot. U if we want to do this and then we're going to need to as a council say, "Okay, here are the dates. Who wants what?" Right.

Honestly, two two per Friday night's probably for the best, you know, because the more people at a booth, the more likely to go to overlap if we want to have a brilliantly late things get pretty at the very beginning. There's very few people, but there tends to be But what are we going to do in the meantime? Because we're a few months off from that actually starting. So, yeah, next few weeks.

Yeah. What what are our next steps? Do we want to put out more information? Do we want to try and have another meeting? Do do we want to put something on the website? I don't know. Do we have uh those questionnaires or anything that if we do that in person coffee outings or just the what I do naturally just go around talk with a different uh business owner or people do we have anything that we can strike conversation and then have them fill out something and sign it like they acknowledge it so they can be part of you know the feedback. Do we have anything like that? We could post on on our website ask us a question that so with that electronic uh emails over the phone even over the phone um you don't get the response. It was a challenge that I I did with PCA and myself and their struggles on finding volunteers. They can't find you. I was like well there's got to be a way. Well, you go out and talk to them. They get to know you like we were just talking about and pretty soon you get a flood of volunteers. they want they want to participate. So if we uh use that same method, I think we'll get a lot more feedback.

I think your copy clutch is a kind of first step on that to be honest with you because you're there and questions that people ask. When we write a question and ask it, we're writing our question and talking in our language. If you're in a coffee flash and somebody asks you a question, you're answering their question, not our question. And there's a big difference between those two things. So it's and I agree with you. It's about getting them in contact with Pete and Facebook.

I think we lead them a little bit too with like if they're very straight news. Um, you know, we can say if you have questions on public safety, you have questions on, you know, water infrastructure, come with your questions, you know, and we can make it so that we put these topics in their head like, hey, you can come and have these one-on-one conversations. And then in that, you know, then we can do one of two things. Say, hey, you know, we're going to have at the end of it, you know, we're going to have a booth at Friday nights. we'll be able to, you know, we'll have this every week. Come and if you think of more questions, come and talk to us, you know, or if it's water related, we're going to have a town hall in April. It's on this date. Come back then. So, I think there's I think the multiprong approach on all this is really important. Um the the coffee I think is a good start. I would push back a little bit on the uh the distance out that Friday night is not being a problem in that. I think that the more that we can concentrate the closer to the levy putting board, you know, short-term memory, we all feel, right? Like I don't even remember what I had for breakfast last week. And so I think if we if we have some of the stuff closer to the levy, which Friday night would be, then I think that's actually more beneficial than it would be to the stuff now. Now the coffee I think that's still great but I think the concentration being at Friday night that goes over the span of summer that the last one is only going to be a couple months before the ley being um I I think that's a great way to concentrate the energy um because at the end of the day we're you know four people but you know it's a small town people talk oneelves quite a bit. Yeah. I mean if I get all one at a time somebody says you know time

and so if we can just start our presence get people talking I really encourage people and I'll do it I mean I can do it when I'm on a walk with dolls I always have conversation and just encourage people hey we as your governing body your city council and the mayor really want your questions we don't want you to answer our questions I want to know what you want and so feel free to contact us at city call, you know, know that we're going to be available to the Friday's coming up, but if you have a question anytime, you know, where are we going to ask that question? Patty, how expensive is it to put a flyer in the map? Not expensive at all

to every mailbox and if it coincides with our monthly bill, right? It's 650 going on. What would it be separate? We have to pay most approximately seven just for postage seven.

I I would say we do one separately of the monthly bill or specifically for Friday nights. Uh and then the wedding piece of that uh maybe midsummer could be worthwhile. You get a couple Friday nights through Friday nights. But I I think the the paper in the water bill's great. I'll be honest, sometimes I get my water bill in and I don't even open it. So, I know I need to be better about that personally. U but I think that if you get something in the mailbox that's not embedded in something else that you can see first and foremost, there is an advantage to that. Uh so the determin I wrote an article for the fair news which similar to the economic development survey.

So that shares the survey results that we did. Yeah. So um that will be out in March. Sweet. Um and I think yeah direct mail kind of things. You can put that. We could do a postcard. Postcards is a little less expensive than maybe

postcards. I'd be interested a build out on what that like what postcard would cost just so we can have that in our toolkit of okay July August you know maybe we build it into the that would be the next fiscal year budget. Um so when budget season comes around if that's something that that we can factor in potentially. Um, but I but I do think a a double-sided postcard, you know, laminate, not laminating over the glossy glossy finish. Um, you know, that separately from the water bill that specifically talks about, you know, come talk to us at, you know, David Friday night, come talk about the levy, make it very levy specific and then you do and David's, you know, and and is there a discounter ready for flyers? Because I know the mailman come sometimes brings money, just gives everybody a name on it. There you are.

Hey, to your point, you know, it's not free. You know, it is free is us handing things out ourselves. Yeah, we get to everybody. I'd rather Yeah, I'd rather see it go up, but I was just wondering because What do you guys feel about door knocking? I'm not keen on it. I mean, looks like we're selling something to people. Yeah, we are police services,

right? So, I don't want to come across that thing. I mean, personally, I don't know. I I would be have no qualms about someone's door, but I just think it would turn people off. What you could do is have based on polls certain what have you that is a hey we will be you know going around the community on this date would you be interested in us going to your home to have a discussion you know as part of our act where you have knock on their door but you know it's based off of responses I don't know if that's something that's that could be it can be very sensitive two items because I think we're getting a little yeah Sorry. Let's pick a chance. My bad.

And you'll see that I'm spinning out there. I know. And you and I EACH OTHER TOO MUCH. Perhaps good luck distribution. Jeremy, did you have any thoughts? Wait a second. You're in the flight pad right over the airport. So maybe you do legally get

Yeah, they have airplane. I was going to say councilbrand is on to something. An effort such as this requires folks us to go out and have conversations with people trying to allow passive, you know, the the town halls, the mailers, that sort of thing. That's important. We need to do that. But we need to find a way to actually go. You go to the baseball, football, basketball. So that's what you do. There's going to be the uh date of wine run on May 30th. It's a great one to kind of showcase

where people walking the streets. Plus, then you go to them and they're not having to come to you because a lot of them are taking their kids all over the post for sports on the weekends. Well, what we do what we should do for y is see if we can talk to the sheriff's department and see if they can send a contingent to the sheriff department to participate in the bio and it's a starting date. We can always have a little what they think. So they haven't said they start

so okay. So kind of recapping what what our ideas are. Um first and foremost most immediate thing is coffee. So we'll talk about that. We'll chat with you afterwards and say okay this is kind of what we want to do when we want to do it. How we want to do it back into it. So immediate thing is coffee. Uh the most impactful and most time investment is going to be date Friday nights. Um so booth next date night meeting. Are you welcome to are you um are you interested in bringing this up to them? Yeah.

Okay. Excellent. Um so booth we'll need to chat marketing materials on that. Um and then we'll want to chat about how we staff it. Um so that's going to be one of the biggest time investment pieces of this. Um and then flyer whether that's I'm well fly if it's embedded postcard if it's separate we can chat finances on that a little bit down the down the road this a few months away um and then auxiliary to that it's kind of a one-time thing the possibility of wire now that might be a little bit too much of an extension with what we can accomplish but I think it's really cool if we can accomplish it

what what when what are you trying to what it's in 30. Hey, got some run away on it. Okay. Um I think it's so long as it's not spreading us too thin, I think it's a great idea. I just don't want to detract from the data Fridays. June 27th or the last year, sorry, the the uh planning of it, I should say. Okay. So, so long as we can do everything in 10, we probably use the same booth for wire run that we end up using for Friday nights because another So, you're gonna take that then through and you'll send an email out. Yep. Perfect. And then Sorry.

No, no, excuse me. We're just going to we're going to need to work the flyers posters. So, first immediate is coffee and we'll cover that after. Okay. Person is coming. Perfect. So, we have some idea of what we're doing. Did you get all that? I just I had to take off to the ladies room. So, I apologize. I missed a portion.

Exit. When we were doing our murder flipping and things like that, we were really trying to accomplish the same thing. Yeah. And that's we'll have that coming up again, which will give us another opportunity to have facetime with our constituents. I mean, anytime we can have FaceTime, even if you're just showing up for a half an hour of some event. Yeah. It's FaceTime. It's an opportunity. They know you care. They see you're there. Even if they don't talk to you that time, they're like, "I bet they'll be at the next one. Maybe I'll catch you." You can ask them questions. Hey, how cool. Is there anything in the city you'd like to see changed? Things like that. Here's your hamburgers or something you'd like to pass off.

Just buy barb jacks and show them tradition of downtown. Does it always have to be coffee? You could do that too. I don't know why. I mean, because the optics of I guess like alcohol versus beer, but we had a couple That's the business of Oh, I just said be. I just said that because of weather, but like fears of goingals. Why might just That's not a jingle with one. Not

the ones that we need to spell the police services are not into. They're into beer. Yeah. Well, people are coming to town from us. I don't know how mostly. Yeah, there's a few blind members, but not. All right, so we got a little plan. Let's move on to number five. Um, update on city hall services. Move to annex. That's page 15. And this will be

okay. So, um, obviously you guys are aware that we were closed on Thursday and again today. Um on Thursday we commenced the move. We had pretty much all our construction, electricians, everybody on hand to facilitate things as well as staff, public works in particular move things around. Um some people got the memo, some people didn't. So some people moved everything in one day. I said just move this this day, do this the next day. Anyway, um we are operating I mean even today we could have operated by by this afternoon. Alexet came in and hooked us up with it.

Um and so Rosio I gave her some pictures I took this evening. Oh nice. She's busily doing that's the nice. Wow. Okay. Where are we standing? This is the challenger. This is Yeah, this is by Twitchel's door. And then next Twitchel's door. And then that is the in front of that picture from the entrance for the new door. Excellent. And this would be where Ricky's side. I really have no I cannot already to the right is where the glass

Cindy already made all the vine le. So we already are city hall there and we already have a dropbox in. And can you go a second and move again? That's it. So that's when you first walk in. Yep. Yeah. Wow. When you in the past you'd walk in, you'd be looking at the at the table. Now it's very good. Can you go? There's a mother's too. Oh, there's my that divides the counters. So there's a door in the center of them. So on the left hand side will be primarily for use for permits, things of that nature. So did you build that wall? They did. Yeah. The same door.

Yeah. You reuse the door and the cabinetry. All of this has been reused. I'm impressed. Wow. Very. Yes, she did. It was amazing. One from the backside looking out. Well done everybody. there coming up. And this is from the back of where your bud used to be. Oh, that's behind the door. Yeah. Looking out toward the entrance. Pretty interesting. Very awesome. It's going to live there. So, I encourage you all to drop by city hall the days ahead just to

visualize it for yourselves and allow you then to be able to talk about it as well. And um yeah, I think you know, we'll be constantly doing little things to tweak it from, decorating, whatever. But I mean, for the most part, it's operational. So, we're we can take payments starting tomorrow. We can we can get permits starting tomorrow. We can do everything of that nature. So, yeah, it's exciting. Super exciting. Nice. I think it just increases the efficiency so much because Jeremy's right there in the ceiling. We're all in the same building now. Yeah. Running across the way. Exactly. So there's more connectivity for sure. Is that little break room still as as it was?

Yeah. Next door. We just sealed it up. But so the kitchen is now it's all self-contained. Yeah. Office was true. Good point. The infl

Yeah. Exactly. So, we just sealed it up. Nice. Yeah. So, do do stop in and take a look because it's pretty cool and they everyone that's moved in there seems really happy with us. So, we're kind of in the process of mothballing next door. If you go over there, it's kind of funny because it really is empty now. So, take the cabinets out, take it. Yeah. So there is the next question is what is anything going to be done with that building in the you know in the near future or is it just going to basically say I thought the pool idea was really I think that our study

Yeah for sure. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, I suspect that. Is it all the same tax law? Big annex and in city hall? Yes. Yes, it was previously a few years ago. Two tax slots, but it got connected or combined, but the dividing line is actually down in the middle of it. Not the buildings, but the back half of the the property and the front half property. Gotcha. Okay. I think when um Stler bought the little property where the old house used to be when they did that. Exactly. That's right.

And then is the library and the old city hall the same building or is the library like an add-on to that building or was it all built at the same time? I believe it was addition. Kitty, do you remember if the library is added on to that city hall? No. Um, it was already there when I got there and already old when I got here. Um, I the one thing I know is that Mary Gilkkey donated the property. Um,

that's why the library is named for that. But I don't think there was any discussion other than it's old and it's moldy and it floods. It's been known for a quarter of a century. So yeah, very exciting. Go ahead. Mayor Frank, Dave also has something else you'd like to put in.

So I I panned this letter and submitted it to Jeremy. Um, it is actually a letter to both our city manager, mayor, and city council. I hate reading to you, but um, this best summarizes everything, so I'll share it with you. Um, I'd like you to please accept this letter of resignation effective the 7th of March of this year. I have decided that after a lifetime of employment, the time has come to say goodbye and embrace retirement. Although I don't expect to sit idle, I look forward to a less structured lifestyle and the freedom that comes with it. I want to express my gratitude to the city of Dayton for what has been a rewarding opportunity to assist in preparing the community for new and exciting change. From day one, I was given the latitude to initiate projects and initiatives that will provide a foundation for future growth. Whether it be surveys to capture public sentiment, grants to provide public improvements, or the establishment of long-term financial structures to provide for future development. I'm proud of the accomplishments we have been able to achieve over a short period of time. The future of this city is bright and I am thankful for all of your support. In addition, I wish to thank city staff and community leaders who have assisted me in realizing these goals. As the saying goes, it takes a village and I could not have achieved nearly as much without their willingness and openness to change. Please continue your good works and I look forward to seeing what the future holds for this special city. Signed up. So, uh, I will be here for the next three weeks. My primary goal is to finish up with the grants that I started. I actually was able to back door into one of them that hasn't been put up yet and was able to get it all set up so I can push the button on um when it opens on March 2nd and then the

other grant takes a little bit more to it. It won't open till then, but I'll complete that beforehand. And yeah, I just want to thank everyone. It's been great. Really appreciated it. Just real briefly, um, just to give you some timeline, back when I was 11 years old, I, uh, I started working with white paper. Okay. Back then, I was even thinking about it. I was like, not only did you deliver the papers, but you collected for the monthly subscription, door to door. You can't even imagine sending an 11-year-old to do that these days.

Um, after that time, I worked for my dad. He had a liquor store for a few years. I worked in another liquor store for several years. I went on to work in in home improvement industry before the likes of Home Depot and and Lowe's. Um continued on with working in the downtown association and then I was in the apparel industry for 25 years mostly in outwork. Um then everything came full circle. I went back to business association when I went to work with the MDA and then got to taste this here which has its similarities although I must admit it's taught me so much about public life that I wasn't aware of and I have a lot more compassion and empathy for for public life because it's it's harder. Um there's so much rules and regulations that one needs to comply with that it doesn't happen as quickly as everything you'd like to see happen.

Very good. So anyway, um I will be here for the next council meeting for you guys. And if you need anything, wish to reach out, I am in the office for the next two and a half, well three weeks. The best very fun. Like I said, your table's set. All you got to do is act on it and you're going to do great. So, yeah, you bet. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been fun. Enjoyable. People say, "Oh, what are you gonna do?" You You'll enjoy it. Just pick up. Absolutely. I got Yeah, exactly.

Everyone I talk to about it says the same thing, too. They go, "Oh, don't even be afraid of that. It's going to be fun. You're going to love it." My husband's semi feel. Yeah, that's where I'm semi-retired is perfect. Couple of days a bit. I can say that's where I'm coming in today. Exactly. Seems like we need to have a big party for we'll see what happens. Yeah, we'll see what happens. If you do, I'm leaving behind. I guess I'm When are you back? Not till 10. Oh, looks like we got to cancel any appointments.

All right. Well, let's just plan on something at some point. I think that would be love. Good. Absolutely. All right. All right. I think I would love that. Thank you. I'll do her stream. Bravo. Excellent. All right, we're going to move on to council comments and concerns. We're going to start with Miss Kitty. Nothing tonight. Nothing tonight. Okay, counselor helper.

I just said I would be going on our next meeting in March. I mean, Santa Barbara, so should you not talk with the weather, we'll be good. looking forward to your bat towel. Other than that, everything I really appreciate this bottle of feels like family to me. Just that's one.

Um, no, I don't I don't think so. Just uh I guess a special thanks Dave for getting here. Oh, yeah. No, it's good. He's the one that's Well, for Dave, I wouldn't be here either. Try to draw my application. We're going to do without Dave. You got us Chris too. Just to get Chris. Okay. Councilor Ty Cloud on me. Yeah.

Um, not a whole lot. just uh I want to make an effort to say thank you to the city staff. You guys do a tremendous job. Dave, you'll be missed. I talked to you a lot. So, I thank you for everything that you've done. Door's still open, but we got some weeks ahead. So, all right. I'll hold you up on that one. Yes. I'm going to find you a window sometime. You will because everyone is together. Very plug. Okay. counseling up there. You know, I normally have uh a lot to say, but I didn't get a second cup of coffee today, and so I run a little slow.

Get the coffee machine back. So, you know, I can't I can't think of anything. Can't think of anything. Thank you, Dave. I I appreciate everything that you you know ever you know ever said or done ever, you know, I just I really I really appreciate that, you know, with you. So, thank you. I miss you. Absolutely. Okay. I will be having surgery March 27th

for sure. So, I will be here for the March 2nd meeting, but Drew will be handling the rest until I'm back. It takes six to eight weeks for recovery, depending on how it goes. So, I'll be around. I just can't get anywhere. So, the 27th is your surgery. Yep. And you're going to be having where I at OSU? No, I'm they're going to do it at a surgical center in Tiger March. March 27th. It's a Friday. You can even look at my X-rays. I brought

I'll take a post everything random

I did that because there are some other dates on there that I didn't know that I might need to refer to or not. So, I mean, I just brought the whole de packet with me. It has everything. Uh, anyways. So, yeah, that's all I've got really. Um, other than the bathroom light at that park bathroom down the street from my house. It's on all the time. I'm like, every morning when I leave, that bathroom light is on. And I'm like, somebody's not going in there every morning when I leave for work and turning that damn light on. Is the light just staying on? I wonder. Or is somebody actually going in there? I'm not sure if the lights actually turning off,

right? I bet that you in the morning it was on. Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute. So, I don't know if we need to look at that or not because I kept assuming somebody might have been in the bathroom, but I don't think so. Anyways, that's all I got. So, um Tom Bett is there. Yeah. We adjourn. Okay, we are adjourned at 7:40.