City Council - Regular Meeting

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Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome everybody to tonight's uh regular city council meeting for the city of Dayton. It is May 12th, 2026. It is 7:05 p.m. Little late. I apologize. Uh call to order. Miss Klein, please. Member Horton here. Member Nean here. Member Ner here. Member Kelly here. Member Jud present. Member Leven here. City attorney Edmonson here. City administrator Faucet here. Mayor Baker present. Now, uh we're going to rise for a moment of silent, Mr. Faucet. Do you mind? No, I'm good. All right. We have we have medical professionals. Need some water.

All right. Yes, sir. Uh we're going to pause for a moment of silence and a pledge. And while we're while we're pausing for a moment of silence, remember uh there's there's two students that are uh not going back to Lincoln Elementary and think about them during that moment of silence. If you would To the flag of the United States of America to the stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

Thank you very much. upcoming uh is the mayor's report. Uh I just want to remind everybody that this is uh we're coming up on our our Memorial Day parade. What a what a great time for us to be in Dayton. One of my first memories of being in Dayton was uh was sitting in front of my house thinking, "Wow, that's a big parade." And uh every year it gets bigger. So uh hope everybody comes out and enjoys the the parade if you want to be volunteered. Uh we'd love to have you. Just get with us at info@datenky.com and we'll we'll get you in the mix. Uh do I have a motion to approve the minutes for April 14th, 2026?

So moved. Member N's made a motion. Second. Second was made. All in favor? I I

Any abstensions? All right. and close that out. Uh we'd like to go ahead and open up the podium right now for anybody who would like to address city council and administration uh on any of the legislative items on tonight's agenda. So if you'd like to address the uh council podium is yours. We're going to go ahead and close it because nobody's bumrushing the podium. Uh, right along the docket. Next up is the second reading for ordinance 2026-3. Miss Klein, please.

An ordinance amending sections 158.01 through 158.12 of chapter 158 of the city of Dayton, Kentucky, code of ordinances relating to reasonable accommodations in residential neighborhoods. So, I went in detail about the changes here. We've had some changes to state law regarding residential care facilities or sober living facilities. So, we've updated our ordinance to recognize those changes primarily that they now are required to get certified through the state and we made a few other changes as well. So, that's basically a cleanup ordinance. Thank you, Mr. Faucet. Do I have a motion to accept 2026-3? I'll make that motion. Member Neas made a motion. Do I have a second?

I'll second. Member Jud made a second. Uh, which opens it up for conversation, discussion. Would anybody like to discuss uh 2026-3? Do we have any of these facilities currently in town that would be grandfathered in? We do currently do not. We had one last one we had that we know of operating officially as one closed down about two what think two years ago Cassie? Yeah, we don't currently have one, but it's good to have it in place in case we do have one. We had uh one that was interested about six months ago. I got called from planning and zoning. That's kind of one of the reasons we went ahead and made these changes, but I haven't heard anything since that time.

Okay. Thank you. Any other conversations, questions? Go ahead and close it out. Roll call, please. Member Ner, I. Member Neeman. I. Member Kelly. I. Member Jud. I. Member Leven. I. Member Horton. I. Me. You eyes have it. Next up on the dock is the second reading of ordinance 2026-4. Miss Klein, please.

An ordinance amending chapter 95 of the city of Dayton, Kentucky, Code of Ordinances to prohibit the use of certain motorized vehicles in Jamestown, Pike Park, and Riverfront Comments except for authorized low-speed electric bikes, scooters, and skateboards. So, as I mentioned last uh meeting, we are changing our ordinance to allow um certain electric low- speed electric bikes which are class one, class 2 and class 3, which is based on the uh standard used by the federal government in their in their federal parks to use our um our trails in our parks. Um so, we make it clear that these these are not permitted on sidewalks. Sidewalks are much too small for these. In fact, I saw four kids, five kids yesterday running up and down the sidewalk in front of city hall on the sidewalk, which is illegal. Uh these are only for our trails, which are designed for bikes and walkers, not our sidewalks.

I'm a little confused here, Jay. This this ordinance doesn't mention anything about sidewalks. It's specifically for the two parks. That's exactly right. That's what I'm saying. So, we have an ordinance that says that they're not permitted on sidewalks. So, sidewalks are too small for any type of vehicle, bicycles, manual bicycles or they're supposed to be in the street. That's what our ordinance requires. Understood. Thank you. Do I have a motion to accept just just to keep it all proper, sir? Just a conversation after the first and second. I have a motion to accept uh the ordinance 2026-4. So moved. Remember judge made a motion. Do I have a second? I'll second.

Number 11 has made second. Would anybody like to have conversation, questions, comments, etc. regarding this ordinance? Again, no, I'm good. We can reiterate. Um, my only question for this is will this be communicated and if so, how to the public?

So, um, we we're in the process of communicating right now because we have somebody on the sidewalks. Um, we just did a I guess a graphic that we're going to put on our on our Facebook page about the sidewalk. So, I guess we could do the same thing. But I I think what we'll do is what we did in Sergeant Park has put a sign up that basically says that it's prohibited unless it's this type of vehicle. So, I think that's the best way to do it. So, when you're there, you'll see, okay, this is an appropriate or inappropriate vehicle that I have. So, I mean, we can put something on our Facebook page about this as well, but we might get some confusion with our sidewalks. Maybe we'll wait a little while before we do that. When will this take effect then? Immediately.

It will take effect when it's published, which is within the next week. Okay. Will it start being enforced before or after the uh signage is put up? I think we'll probably wait until we'll put the signage up. That's what we did in Sergeant Park. So, I'll get with Rick and we'll get the same signage, similar signage that we have up there in parking. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions regarding ordinance 2026-4?

All right. We're go ahead and close the comments. Roll call, please. Miss Klein. Member Neeman. I. Member Kelly. I. Member Jed. I. Member Loveven. I. Member Horton. I. Member Ner. I. Your eyes have it. Two more uh readings. The first one would be the first reading of ordinance 2026-5. Miss client, please. An ordinance amending the city of Dayton, Kucky's annual budget for the fiscal year running from July 1st, 2025 through June 30th, 2026 and estimating revenues and resources and appropriating funds for the city to the full extent authorized by KRS82.082 and interpretive case law.

Assistant city administrator Jared Brooks Brooks Brooks Barks BS will uh present on this.

This is just to clean up the endra. So there's a few line items that I was detailing. So the waste collection that was from the change was already professional services about 30,000 for um attorney's fees that were above what we did before there was a rounding error. about it and that is just to make sure we have enough. We're getting really close here at the end. The other portion that I wanted to mention was parks increased it from 170,000 to 250,000 that is so we can couple of sidewalk projects. I didn't see the any report. We have the I have a copy of the ordinance but not the details.

That's next year's budget you got in your hands. The cleanup is there an ordinance? Excel sheet.

I mean, I know it's only the first reading, but we'll need that information before any approval.

We need to get We need to get that to you, Joe. Pardon me. We need to get that to you, I think. To Did anybody else get it? Nope. Okay. I don't think they two separate pieces. One is the other one.

All right, that'd be great. Thank you. Sorry about that. Not an issue.

Again, that's just a first reading. Uh more fun budget talk later. Uh brings us on to the next first reading, ordinance 2026-6. Miss Klein, please. An ordinance adopting the city of Dayton, KY's annual budget for the fiscal year running from July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027 and estimating revenues and resources and appropriating funds for the city to the full extent authorized by KRS82.082 and interpretive case law. So this is the budget for this upcoming fiscal year starting July 1,26. Hey Jar, go back real quick. Show them show show them the ordinance. This there there is the ordinance. This

that's that's in your pack.

Um so page number five is the actual numbers that you as council are passing. So this is the actual ordinance page and page five. The rest of the um the rest of the document is forational purposes and that's something I put together. So my goal is if someone a resident comes and they pick up this packet they will have an education knowings and what are so the next pages are going to be the financial policies for the city we've not changed any of those policies they are the exact same policies in the past so I'm not thosebody Next is the budget schedule. It just talks about when the budget process starts activities are in there and how we formulate the budget itself. The next few pages starting on page 12 that's going to be a description of all of our funds. We have five different talks about what monies go in there and what they are for. Lot of good information there. Page 15, the history of the city. The history of the city hasn't changed since last year.

16 is going to be an organizational chart of the city and all inbody functions. Page 17 is going to be the city council priorities. They came up with those priorities and voted on them March 28th of this year and we utilize that information to create the budget document and they kind of give us what they want to see. Okay. So now we're getting to the actual city. This chart shows the three main revenue sources for the city. property tax, occupational tax and insurance tax and it shows the trending of those three revenue sources. Um we are expecting occupational tax to overtake property tax and insurance tax as our number one revenue generator for the third year in a row. Only three years of date has ever done that. Um which is good news because means we're getting more payroll businesses. We're getting more employees from the city and the city has historically been reliant on property taxes which only come once a year. Um and so with the moves that we've done over the last few years now we have occupational tax coming as our number one revenue generator which is a really good sign of health. The next page is going to be even more description showing those three revenue sources. How much of percentage of our total revenues those are showing each of the different types of revenue.

It's pretty blurry. The whole thing is blurry. That's better.

Then we're going to go to revenues on page 21. We have three open grants which is significantly down from what we project. We don't have this kind of hanging over our head projects. So we have pipe sidewalk. We have another one that we're applying for to do some work on bridge and then the last one is the river levy trail projecting on top with that particular product design. Okay. So page is going to go through each of the five funds and it's going to show you a history of how much money we tal to expend. The first chart on page 24 is showing the blue line is how much we budgeted and the green line is how much we've actually spent. So as you can see the city significantly budgets more than we actually spend. That's because we are frugal but it's also because we have all those grants that are not finishing and so we just consistently have to put that money back into the budget as we

page 25 each of those colored stacked lines is each of the departments and the black line on the top is the is the revenue sources of the city. So our goal is for that black line to be over top of those colors because that's showing that we have more revenue coming in than we are expending out. As you can see prior to 2022 was more than we trending and so now we are making which is what we need to be doing. Next page on 26 is going to show the general fund expenditures. I give you two years of what we've done in the past compared to what we're proposing for the September fiscal year which you can see the blue column on the right. And so those are all of our estimates for all of the different categories within the budget. And then underneath that you're going to see a portion of the general fund and that's broken up by each of the departments, general government, police, fire. You can see the percentage of how much each of those cost the city relative to the entire budget as a whole. Okay. So the next page is really where we're going to get into each of the large ticket items that we're planning on. So the first page on 27 is going to show all of the city vehicles. I tried to organize it a bit this year. So we're going to talk about city vehicles. So um the police department is going to receive one additional vehicle in their release program and this will bring it up to total vehicles within that lease program. So, as you can see, police vehicle leases, it says $162,000. That is the payment for all of the vehicles that we have. So, for all of

the 10 vehicles, we are going to be paying $162,000 for this particular year. Um, the police department also requested for ebikes. They have money for $5,000. The city council also approved the purchase of a John Deere ATV for the works department. We are going to be looking at whether we're going to be leasing that or purchasing that. So, we're going to look at two options and see which one is better. And then we have two current vehicles that we already have in programs also. listed in there as well. Even though they will not

Okay. Page 28 is going to be street project and repair. So, wait, I'm sorry. Can I interrupt? Um, the gator thing, 40 grand. What did you say about it again? The first line you said somebody approved it, somebody wanted it. What did you say? This is for public works. They requested it. Requested. Okay. Yeah, we talked session. You guys were okay with that. Okay. So, now we're going to be determining, are we going to buy it outright or are we going to lease it from the leasing program? We'll look at the two options to see which one.

Okay. Not worried.

Yes, I have a question about

So, I'm concerned again about the Roundup and um this is new for Dayton according to public works that they have not used Roundup before or very little or never or they couldn't remember. And because Covington does it, we're now going to get this gator and spray Roundup all over alleys, the city, wherever. Very concerned. Will not approve it. Um there's a lot of lawsuits about cancer and Roundup and uh glyophate. Concerned. I hope that there's a way that we can post to the public because maybe I don't know who cares and who doesn't, but I think the public should be aware that this little this little paragraph about this John Deere thing is means that they're spraying round up all over the city. That's not what it means.

Well, that's what I heard it meant. So, what does it mean? It means that we're buying the vehicle. The vehicle is also for watering plants.

I understand that, but there was a $15,000 attachment to spray Roundup. Are there any questions? So now we're going to go to street project. Our main project and really the only one that we're going to have for next year sidewalk project has been going on. A lot of road damage, a lot of cuts, a lot of concrete work up there. And so once that project or once that grant project is completed, we are going to be repaving the entire road from which I know a lot of people will be excited about. So that's our one and only project for next year. We have a storm water project $8,000. This is on page by the way. We do anticipate share. So, I don't anticipate it being fully $80,000, but we budgeted just in case. Um, and then the last street uh project is the seven street alley. That's where those towns are going to be located and we have a deal with the developer to pay for that restoration for that. Are there any questions about street projects? Next is city buildings and infrastructure. We are budgeting $50,000. That's going to come from that $500,000 we received from the developer. So that's not city taxpayer funds. Um and we're budgeting $50,000 for that design. Out of that total 500,000 we'll see that later. The next project I just wanted to mention there's not going to be any funding toward it but that's the new public works for hours. We already

have a design for that. But I just wanted people to know that that's still in process. That's still in the work. So I have that listed evening for that as the moment. Next, as far as expenditures go, 29 is going to be general fund grant match. So these are the same grants that I already talked about before showing what the share of the cost is going to be for the city. So again, that's the sidewalk, the river wall. We a river project and the bridge which I already mentioned before. Last thing that I want to mention on page 30 is in category fund spending that in the next fiscal year but we do intend to keep it saved for a future project that we have in the books. So, city hall funds, we have $450,000. Again, that's the 500US design. So, we'll have $450,000 left out of that fund. And then the other project that we discussed was the seven street $350,000 to the side. that that amount will allow us to actually start construction by installing all peers that need to go in to the into the ground. So, we'll need to get additional funding to do the repaving, but we felt like we tried to get money from the state for this project in the last session. We worked with our legislators, but we we did not get it. I don't think we can wait any longer. So, we decided that we think it's best to kind of go ahead and start that because we're getting more complaints from residents on 6th Avenue about water issues and things of that nature. So that's a biggest exper

income like the state or grants for something saying hey we already have this much um so one this is a new section that I've added and that's just talking about staff changes that we're proposing so the two staff changes that we're proposing is the police department. We discussed adding a part-time staff member to them. So that would range them from 13 employees to 14. And then the other one not discussed um that we're looking at is potentially in the code enforcement department moving our parttime staff to a fulltime position. So that's not ironclad. We're still talking to that particular And but I wanted to make sure that it was

I have a question. Um the part- timerr that you just suggested, was that about a social media person? Okay. Inspector looking at the job description.

Okay. The problem is that over the last few years, we really put additional responsibilities on the code enforcement department, which is basically Cassie aunt doing everything except for rental inspection. And so she's overwhelmed and we feel like this is a good opportunity for us to maybe help reduce some of her issues and also get some other things done like sidewalk inspections and things that we really have time to do. and that salary. So even if we made him full time, it would cost us very general fund expenditures. Are there any questions about that? So I tried to break out a little more each of the other funds so you can see what specific projects are going to be in those. The next one is the park fund. The capital expenditure that we're looking at there is the park and retaining wall that will cost around $35,000 to redo. We're also going to be looking heavily at the drainage of that site. We have a lot of mudslides and a lot of work that needs to be done with that. So that's also going to be in that project. Park upgrades. This is a line item that I use. for the park board. So they will have $50,000 to essentially decide what projects that they want to do in the parks. And the last item is $150,000 reserve. So we're currently spending that, but we are going to be holding it back and that is for the baseball and softball fields. We're currently working at a high level abstractly with the Reds Community Foundation and St. and they are potentially going to be providing funding to us to be able to reach those bills. In order for that to happen, the city slash the school system

is going to have to raise $400,000. So, we're going to go ahead and put $150,000 toward that project in this next year. I believe they said we're on the docket for potentially 2027 2028 for those projects. So we have a very short window of time to get that together. So that is all for the park. Next is going to be the economics development fund. Uh we are moving the uh business assistance grants and what I'm now calling the homeowner assistance grants to this fund. So, the business assistance grants are going to be those massage grants, the signage grants, the rental grants, and then we're also going to be adding new homeowner grants to this fund, which are going to be the city sidewalk curve a lotments and the parking grants. Next is going to be municipal that is just going to be 100% want to do that project. So if you combine those general fund expenditures for the paving and the municipal fund together that will pay and last as far as expend for capital expenditures because this is just the funnel account for all of those ts coming from the um general fund into the tip fund and that goes directly to the developers of all the tip districts. So there's not going to be any. Okay. So the very last thing is balance

on page 27 and that just lists each of the funds what I estimate balances are going to be and what I estimate are going to be at the end of the square. Are there any questions about Catch your breath there, sir. Thank you very much for your presentation, Mr. Barks. Does anybody have any questions for assistant city administrator Barks for budget?

I will say I know this is a question. This is already on the website. This is how I pulled it up right now. Um, it will also be on our social media pages starting tomorrow. And so, um, you all have 30 days for your first reading. I encourage the community and the residents to also look at the document and feel free to contact management or any of the city council members and give your thoughts about it as well. Again, we ask anybody any questions for Mr. Barks.

All right. Well, thank you very much, sir, for your presentation. And again, that's just the first reading. We'll have time to discuss over the next month or so. Well done. Couple years ago, remember Joe? Uh was a an Excel sheet that looked like I put it together. Yeah.

Yeah. We did good. We did good. Uh next up, we have a order resolution. The first would be order resolution 2026-7 Romeo. Miss Klein, please. Order resolution adopting and approving the execution of a municipal aid co-op program contract between the city of Dayton, Kentucky, and the Commonwealth of Kentucky Transportation Cabinet, Department of Rural and Municipal Aid for the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 2026 as provided in the Kentucky Revised Statutes and accepting all streets referred to therein as being streets which are a part of the city of Dayton, Kentucky. So, order resolution. Do I have a motion to accept order resolution 2026-7 Romeo?

So moved. Judge made a motion. Do I have a second? Second. Second by member Nean, which opens it up for conversation, comments, and questions. Mr. Anything to discuss?

Yeah, it's the annual allocation from the um transportation cabinet for mun road fund aid and um it's gone down a little bit because they've never changed the tax despite the fact we're paying top dollar for a gallon of gas. the tax remains the same as it did 20 25 years ago. So they've never adjusted that to just when you get it more more pay more at the at the tank at the fuel tank. That's where this money comes from. So um yeah, so it's a little bit less than last year, but every little bit helps when we're paving these roads. So that's what it'll be used for. There

any questions or comments regarding 2026-7 Romeo? And with all the talk out of state capitals and Washington DC about uh putting a pause on the fuel taxes, I don't know if that's going to affect what we're going to bring in next year if Kentucky were to put a pause on the fuel tax. So, we'll have to be conservative with our The good thing is the session's over. We don't have to worry about that for another year. But I think the tax right now I've heard it is the federal fuel tax. I don't Have you heard anything about the state thinking about doing the same thing? I don't know. Two servant taxes. I thought I heard that Governor Basher was considering it. Oh, really?

Yeah, I heard that, too. I guess the governor could do it. He had like a month 11centent or two weeks ago. M. We had a motion to accept and a second. Roll call, please. Miss Klein. Member Kelly. I. Member Jed. I. Member Leven. I. Member Horton. I member Neri I member Neman I any eyes have it now typically we go right along to department director's monthly reports however we do have we don't I you interrupted me sir sorry I'm going to interrupt you sometime that's going to be payback kids

I apologize thank you for apologizing typically we go on to department director's uh monthly reports however tonight we have uh guest in the audience uh who was uh trying to get here on time for 7:00 start, but we know that traffic coming down Dayton Pike can be a uh a thing. So, uh Judge Pendry, if you'd like to address uh council, you're more than welcome to have the podium. First, let me apologize. Then, let me invite you to laugh at me with me

because what happened is I came up 471 and as soon as I got on the expressway there, it was backed up, but I figured it'll clear. I'm gonna stay here. And uh a couple minutes after 7, I called for you to tell you I was going to be late, but of course you guys turn your phones off right at the meeting. So by the time I got off the expressway, I was going to be, you know, late. But uh I thought, you know, you'd have some preliminaries or something. I'd still get here. But I was in a hurry. So, I uh I asked Siri to um you know, get me to the city council, the Dayton, Kentucky City Council meeting. I don't know if I told her city hall or not. Probably did,

but I wound up at city hall and I'm like, how do I get here? So, I went over, you know, maybe they're holding a meeting somewhere else. I know I told her, you know, the So, I bang on the door, it's locked. I get back in the car. Then, on the way here, she's telling me how to go. I actually gave her the address uh then instead of telling her where I wanted to go. And uh I was in such a hurry that I I turned before I should have and I was on a one-way street. And so then she had me all all the way over and almost up to eight and back around again and down and you know here I am. Welcome.

Yes. Well, I will tell you that uh I am a peerless leader. I'm just not very good at directions apparently, right? Uh and I tease, but um I did want to come by and say hello. and uh thank you uh for the uh quality of the relationship that the county has with Dayton, Kentucky and and with the mayor and the administration and wanted to say hi to Chief Hel and and and all the rest of you. Um there there's one thing I wanted to mention just to uh ask questions if you have them. Uh we broke ground on a public safety building that's going to be built near AJ Jolly Park which is sort of the center of our service area for for our police and and emergency people. So it represents an improvement for us and uh this is going to be a purpose-built state-of-the-art uh place that's designed around the occupancies to to make them more efficient. Uh and uh one of those occupancies is is going to be the dispatch operation that is currently in Newport. Dispatch and the emergency management people are supposed to be enclosed within spaces that are hardened against every calamity you can think of and they're supposed to be generators in case the lights go out. And uh we've been a little shy of facilities like that. Um so we've we've got four agencies in the same building all of whom uh collaborate and uh they are properly served um you know by the building with the requirements that best practices around the country call for in in the housing of those those agencies. Now, that could lead somebody to ask questions, and I'm uh I'm either here to answer them or if uh you find you have some or your citizens do, we're happy to

uh send somebody down here to talk it over uh or, you know, whatever you need from us, we're happy to provide. I wanted to mention, you know, as I'm talking about our relationship with Dayton, that uh one of the things I noticed when I was a mayor, probably didn't notice while I was still a city councilman. I was learning my way around, but what I noticed is cities often um are saddled with jobs that really are best provided by an agency that has more scale. If you have to hire your own subject matter expert and every city tries to do that for whatever the uh purpose may be um that's not very efficient for one thing and some cases you can't keep them busy full-time and for another those are pricey salaries. So, it seemed to me it would be better if uh well, this dawned on me when I became judge executive. It would be better if the county could provide some of those services to all the cities, thus making it uh more efficient. Um and among those things are things like planning and zoning, building inspection, um police, social workers, and uh and tank. There's a a larger list than that. There's animal control and there's occupational tax collection and so forth. But the point is to provide cities with a menu of things that if they want to participate and have the county do the work could represent uh a savings, you know, to that city. So, we have a menu, such a menu that we offer to the cities and and you all are are using a number of those things. I think you love and appreciate Cindy Mener and um and she does planning and zoning um and she's an asset that nobody else in

the county has. You know, she should be shared and there are other examples. So, um I want to thank you for that partnership because that helps make our programs go and um your participation helps make people like that available to all the other cities too. So, um I'm not sure that I need to talk a lot more. Um do you have any questions for me? Any anyone maybe some instruction on navigation?

Well, it sounds like you in order. It sounds like uh you just experienced the bane of Belleview and Dayton with Route 8 coming off of 471. And we've been asking KYTC to take a look at that. I know the county is responsible for a lot of road miles, but um 200 200. Yeah. Um we really could use some help with getting those two intersections um more efficient. Put it that way. Roundabout. Roundabout.

Well, I don't care if it's a helicopter. Something's got to be done. Uh, so you just experienced what our citizens experience every day. Um, and it really does need to be addressed. It's affecting our citizens, our property values, and our businesses. So, I'd appreciate it if you could. Well, I'm taking you seriously, but I think what I experienced is Siri doesn't like me and I'm a boomer. So, you know, I guess that's what it is. My kids ridicule me all the time about that. Well, you can go back up Dayton Pike. That's that's a nice ride there. That's easier for me. I live :30 a.m. try to get to downtown, pardon me, around 7:30 a.m. try to get to downtown roundabout. Yeah. Yep.

It's backed up all through B all through Belleview. If you'd like, uh, District 6 people are working with us all the time and, uh, we have quarterly meetings with them and if somebody wants to to go, you're always welcome to do that. That light at Party Source. That is the problem.

Yeah. I know our administration's been working with Belleview's administration and I think Newport's too, but any influence that you could have to keep that nudge forward. I know KYTC's overloaded, especially District 6 with the uh Brent Spence bridge project is taking up a lot of their time, but we still got to take care of the little people. Well, all of us are little compared to that that and uh and actually I'll I'll give you this warning. In the last legislative session, I started to hear people say, people in the legislature, from other areas of the state, that we're getting billions of dollars for our bridge and we're not paying tolls and and maybe we're getting enough kind of a you know, I didn't hear that on the floor of the House or the Senate, but you know, in the quiet of offices while you're lobbying people, you hear some of those things. So, we have got to make the point over and over again that that bridge is is pivotal for everybody in Kentucky. Now, now maybe maybe the effects lessen a little bit when you get to the edge of the state, but certainly Lexington and Louisville need the interstate system and that that bridge carries three or 4% of the entire GDP of the United States.

So, got to be on there. Well, Route 8 Route 8 handles 100% of Dayton's traffic. Yeah, it's a that's a thorny problem. I I think the businesses along Route 8 really don't want another lane added if that means there's not parking right on either side of the street, right? And so the day has probably passed that you could go down a street and uh and create sort of a circulation pattern with with two streets. You could put a double-decker in Belleview. I've always thought about that. Just

Yeah. It's not so much it's not so much the capacity, it's the timing on those signals down there is whacked and has been for years. Okay, that's so that could be a simple solution to do a study on that. redo the timing on the lights to at least get it better.

Okay. Well, I I'll I'll give you a clue there that uh yeah, OKI is the number one rated transportation planner in the United States among NPOS's and uh they have grant money up to 80% uh that you can apply for. It's a competitive process and um they do signalization studies. uh it would require a 20% match from somewhere, but that's something out there and and I'm just mentioning that because I know about it. There could be other things to do and we can investigate that. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right.

I have a question. I have a question about occupational licensing and permits countywide. That can get expensive if you're like a business and you go to Silver Grove and then you come to Dayton. Have you guys have thought about streamlining and having one blanket occupational tax permit for the whole county of K of of Camel County and then making sure that you could allocate the funds to each municipality and streamline and make it easier for businesses so they don't have to get permits in every single city.

Right. Okay. So we are involved in a yearslong, you could even say decadesl long process where in the beginning everybody had their own occupational taxes, their own uh exclusions and deductions things and uh everybody that did business in multiple jurisdictions had to fill out forms for each, deliver those forms to each and deal with each city uh as they were working through the accuracy of of the form. We now have a situation where we have I think I got to think about this there. There are 10 cities with occupational taxes like you're talking about of 15 in the county and I think seven of them are having us collect their occupational taxes. We spent half a million dollars the last time we spent money on uh software to make a tax portal that uh particip tax taxpayers for participating cities can use to pay their occupational taxes. And we've got a form uh I think uh to fill out to to get that done. Um, but it is still very complicated because each city still has different deductions and exclusions and things or enough of them to make the whole thing still the whole thing still complicated.

I I I think that in the last legislative session that they actually passed a law that's going to require the state to um basically make a form that all cities have to use in the future for occupational licenses. probably address what you're you're doing. They're going to standardize the form and require all cities to do it and counties. That would be absolutely fant. I think that's that was passed this past session. So, that's an intermediate. It's going to take a year to do it. I think that's an intermediate step we should leap on because what they've also been talking about doing is collecting all that stuff themselves and that's the last thing any of us would want. They didn't they didn't do that. They they are requiring the the the standardized form, but yeah, we don't want them to collect it. we want to.

So, you know, if if we can get everybody on the same form, that that's a step in the right direction. And uh and at that point, if somebody has a like a heating and air conditioning business and they're in all the counties of Campbell doing work, uh it it's less complicated and uh and they could be paying the amount that each city wants them to pay uh to us to be just distributed uh you know back, which is better than if if we had one raid and we collected things and then we had to come up with a methodology to give people what they regard as a fair amount without asking, you know, where are these businesses actually cited? Some people suggest that that would really be complicated and maybe unsatisfactory. I I don't know. So anyway, there's my happy news for the evening.

I I think it's a great question you asked me or a lot of people have that question. It's uh convoluted. Yeah. Any other questions for Pry? Well, I appreciate your indulgence and I could have made you sit through the old old meeting, sir. Next time, that's what we're going to do. Well, I'm a slow learner with some things, but I embarrassed easily and I won't forget.

That's all right, sir. Well, I appreciate your time and your service, sir. All right, moving right along the docket. Next up, we have the department director's monthly reports. Uh, as we like to do, ladies first, Miss Patterson, please, with your code enforcement. Do

you have a copy of my report? Um, it is there's a lot this month. Um, just keep in mind that 60 of those are rental inspection um, citations that people have not filled out. Those were due in April. Um, so we're starting to send out citations now um, of people that have not paid. Um, inspections of we're starting to ramp up. I know he's doing Manhattan apartments uh, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Um, so it's a lot of units in three days. So, um, that's about it really. Any questions?

13 pages. I know it's busy. And I'm noticing that the vast majority are the owners are not Dayton residents. Seems like But I thought the the best thing about your Well, I know it's not your report. It's uh from animal enforcement. Mhm. Terry, Tuesday, April 14th, got called out at 2 am for a raccoon that fell through the ceiling. Wow. The raccoon was in the window of the bedroom. I was able to remove it. People wonder where their tax money goes. Yes. Raccoon just fell through your That's great. She is great. She is. She is.

And I know you work in conjunction with her on a lot of these properties. Much appreciated. Yes. Yes. Dog dogs aren't It seems like it kind of go comes and goes. Like one week we'll have like three loose dogs people calling and then we don't hear two weeks go by. It's just Yeah, we had one ror and they finally got a new house. That's a good Yeah. If you have any questions, email me, call me, whatever. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Patterson. believe Chief Hell's got a lot on his docket tonight, so we'll let him speak and get it out of the way. Chief, hopefully I don't have too much. Um,

talk about scooters, man. You have my monthly report. Um, just what I want to add is just a couple things we have going on, uh, on our Facebook page. Uh, we're kind of developing something. Uh it's going to be down here uh July 22nd from 2P to I'm sorry 12P to 2P which is coloring with cops. Uh we struck a good uh deal with the slushy uh what is that? The I'm trying to think of the name of the Kona Ice.

Uh cone Ice. Yes. Thank you. So, the Kona Ice uh agreed to come to majority of our events and I believe there's a cookie uh mobile cookie place too. So, now they're going to help be at some of our events also. Um so, that is going to be July 22nd. Um another thing we're going to be doing is just I don't know if you've seen also on the Facebook page, we're going to be doing something uh it's called behind the badge. Uh it's just something to get to know the individual officers if people kind of want to know who's out there on the on the city streets. So these are questions like uh why you became a police officer, what do you enjoy about working in the city of Dayton, what do you do on your time off, some rapid fire questions and things like that. So

this is on Facebook. This is on our Dayton Police FA Facebook Facebook page. So we we got pretty many members now. So, uh, it's going to be a new feature, so try to be a little more social, get out in the community a little bit more. Um, Joe, we have the RA mobile radar unit on Manhattan. I saw that. It's great.

Finally in. So, we're testing the batteries to see how long that they will last. So, I think they've gone about a week and a half, almost two weeks long. So that that does that has helped us out a little bit with me changing because sometimes it was only lasting a couple days. So it I had to do it twice a week and it got a little tedious. Uh the other good news is we had a report um that we are the sec uh 22nd safest city. Um that was for 2026. We've come a long way from 150 uh in my 10 years here. So we are now the 22nd and that puts us kind of Fort Mitchell is at 19, Bill Hills is at 18. So we're we're in good company. So we've we've strived uh for public safety uh in the city of Dayton. And I think that's what uh we see uh fruits of our labor uh with the businesses and people out just coming down here just so many people out walking around and it's just nice to see that they feel safe. So I do like I do like seeing that. Um, I think that's all I have with my report. You have any questions?

Well, I want to thank you for um I I don't know if rest of council noticed on Facebook, people are complaining about or worried about the safety with all these electric scooters, electric bikes, the kids are um all over the place. Um, and I reached out to Chief this morning and he uh put together or you already had that that you had distributed. We put it out in March. Uh, we we gave it to the school to share with Lincoln and the high school. Um, we came up with more of a kid-friendly

type uh picture, more of a cartoonish that has the rules on it and stuff like that. Uh, I just sent something to Rick Wolf, the superintendent. He emailed me right before the meeting started and asked me if I wanted to send that picture to the high school and Lincoln. I said, "All students, just send it out." And he said they're going to send it out uh first thing tomorrow. Send it home with every parent and I appreciate it.

So, yeah. So, we appreciate that. So, we're trying the best we can. I mean, there's there's a lot of kids out there. We've we've stopped them and told them and this is going to be, you know, We don't want to, you know, be the bad guys. We want to keep that community, you know, um, relationship with our kids, uh, that we've worked so hard to get through the high school with SRO Brindle. I mean, the kids love him and we want to continue that. So, you know, we kind of want to work with the parents to try to resolve this. And it's a it's the public safety issue, not only here, but I think in every town, every community, these things are getting cheap. Um,

and they're cheaply made, some of them. I worry about the fire with these lithium batteries. Um, I know Attorney Edmonson sent me a great uh analysis of what's going on in other communities and suggestions on what we should do. I think we got some work ahead of us. Um, Fort Thomas is voting on theirs tonight, what they've proposed. And Alex, you said that we can maybe base some of that, Covington, etc. But I think in the next couple of months, uh, this council has to work on some kind of legislation so that if you're driving down the street right now and a kid comes around the corner like they do and goes into the side of your car, who's actually responsible if there's no laws in place? And it's not just a monetary issue or an insurance issue. It's also given the parents some clear information that they can pass on to their kids and enforce. Uh right now it's kind of the wild wild west. Uh what we have in place is is old and not addressing these scooters. Um so the in your recommendations, Mr. Edmonson, one of the one of them that you said was, you know, do it in different steps and step one is to get information out to the community about safety and what the rules are and everything. So, I I applaud you for getting that out quickly.

Yeah, we put it out in March when it started come when it started getting warm and we start seeing those things. So, we immediately got it to the schools. But since time has passed a little bit, you know, it's like, oh, it's out of sight, out of mind. They forget about it. you know, we gota just, you know, be continual and reminding the kids that, you know, the safety, right? And we usually had a summer safety fair for the kids to let them know, you know, safety before they were released for summer break. We went over all the the rules and expectations of what we like to see with safety and right, we just uh missed this year, I guess, with that. So,

and and a lot of the these ordinances or pro provisions in different cities that Alex passed along not only cover not only cover these little electric things, but also bicycles because I hear people complaining about people on bicycles ripping through stop signs. So, it's pretty much an all-in-one

uh redefinition of what the rules are. Um, but you've already done the the step one. What information do we have? What are the rules? And get them out there. Uh, I don't know that statewide. Um, I was with the park board last night and girl in charge of the park board is very involved with cycling. And she was saying that in the state of Kentucky, every other most other states classify class one, class 2, class three on these electric bike, scooters, etc. And Kentucky hasn't done that yet, which really limits how you can define it. And I brought that up I think in March that we need to probably address our state reps to

have something next session because this session was already, you know, going on to I'm sure with with all the cities having to deal with this, this is something that the state's going to have to put in place sometime next session is going to be forthcoming. Well, Alex, could you would it be okay to send this report to all the council and and the rest of administration and police to get their input on it? So, I mean, it's a it's a powder keg of issues. Um, and as far as I I put some thoughts in there based upon what other places are doing.

Um, we what we're learning now is that uh because I'm I'm seeing the criminal the prosecution side of it because I see that in my other rule is that uh now they're they're going to bikes. They're figuring out how to turn a scooter into a bike with a pedal,

right? uh so that they can argue that it's a an electronic bike so that it doesn't have to comply with the all the other restrictions. And until the legislature acts on that, it's another way around it. So, we're now seeing bikes that have like fake pedals or scooters that have fake pedals. It's bizarre. Um it's going to take a tragedy before there's real change. And and um you know, as far as the comments that I that I put out, I mean, every city's reacting to it differently. There are some communities that are saying, "This is how our children are transporting themselves to school, right? Because a parent is no longer wanting to wake up and take their kid to school."

Um and there are people that are saying, "I can't get my kid there." So, this is the only way for them to safely get there, so they don't have to wake up at whatever time and walk. So, I I know it's an issue that is near and dear to a lot of different jurisdictions. Um, happy to forward it. It's just it's really a place to start the conversation, not end it because each of those different uh ordinances that I've looked at were different

based upon um the pressure, whether it be political or just some other pressure, but they're a little different. One thing is true, there's no solution for the ebikes. I mean, there's just, you know, that's a real problem for us if we decide decide to do it because the legislature has clearly said local rule prevails on the scooter side and put that in the statute. Ebike, I don't have an answer for it.

I'd like to do even more research on this and we can't wait for the legislature in January to do something. They've passed on it for two years. Uh I and somebody mentioned online, "Oh, you don't want these kids to have any fun." I sure do. I mean, I did stupid things on my bike when I was a kid. I just want these kids to come home safe. Um and the more we can get these messages out, even if it's a warning to the kid or blowing the horn at him or whatever. Uh but please, for everybody driving out there, please be careful because right now it's kind of crazy. Not only here, everywhere else, too. But I appreciate you get acting on that. So quickly, Chief,

any other questions for Chief Hil? Thank you for your time, sir. All right. Thank you, Chief Schaefer. Good evening.

Evening. So, couple highlights. Everybody has a copy of my report. So last month we made 177 runs. 50 of those fire, 127 of them are EMS getting warm. Uh runs are increasing slightly. We did train in drivers training, fire behavior, pump ops, um altered mental status, protocols, some auto extrication. Um our medical director came down did some protocol reviews with us with some protocol changes. So, year to date, uh, 776 hours of training already. So, that's awesome. Uh, we did 17 inspections. Uh, don't forget May 1st started the statewide burn ban. That's a state issue or a state mandate, not us. So, from May 1st until October 1st, there's no open burning, no burn permits. Uh there's flyers we'll put on move the front of the website. I think I'll bring some over the city as far as fire pits and what kind of fire pits are allowed. So, uh we had Duke Energy come in and do their electric safety class. That was very interesting, pretty cool. So, that was neat. Um once again, beginning of the month, we did the fire department showcase. So, thank you for everybody participating in that. Uh we did get our ladder truck back this week. So we have a few items, few things we want to move around and get back in maybe organized a little bit different. So but it's it's back getting ready to get back in service probably next week. Um we noticed our ambulance getting new brakes. So it was we have a backup ambulance yesterday today. So ours should be back tomorrow. Um, we had the state fire marshall come up and the

school security marshall uh did some school walkthroughs in both cities addressing fire issues and all the schools. So, that was interesting. Uh, unfortunately, you know, our crews responded to the tragic fire in Newport. Um, not much to be said about that. Everybody did did what they could and so or you know our thoughts are our thoughts are with the families and everybody was on the scene. It was pretty tough thing. And then the other thing is the fireboard uh approved the new vehicle. The old chief vehicle had some issues mechanical issues. Wasn't worth fixing. So I did was able to get new chief vehicle. Uh the lighting should be installed probably next week and be good to go. So, thank you all for that. Any questions?

I'm going to go on record. I will never do your training again. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Chief. Mr. Lucas,

your report, sir. Well, we've been working on getting ready for the parade and some of the things we've done lately other than our normal stuff, cutting grass and alleys and cutting back a roadside. Uh we did a we put in a sidewalk that was 30 ft long, 6 foot wide down on Third Street. We did that one and then we did a a um a small one down at the pickle ball court where you can walk into the pickle ball court now from a sidewalk and an area on the side we put a garbage can on and we got one more big project to do down on second venom. There's two big areas in the road going to have to be tore up and we can do that. And then uh we did a walk through on the river trail yesterday and they found out some things. Uh I'm sure Jay's going to talk all about that

and he's got another thing to talk about too. There's a couple of them he gets to do. Other than that, we're busy and we uh if anybody's got any questions, any questions for uh Mr. Lucas? Thanks. Thank you for your time, sir. That concludes the department director's monthly reports for this evening and this month for that matter. Which brings us right along to the city administrator's report. Mr. Faucet, sir.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, as um Rick referenced, I got a couple things that uh one is very near and dear to your heart. The railings on Dayton steps are about halfway finished. Okay. The tough part's coming now. There's the big sections that need to be replaced, but uh she's gotten about halfway up and uh going pretty good. Um we also had our whole public works team out there yesterday, the day before cleaning the cleaning the steps and cleaning all the um trees and bushes along the side. So, it's much more uh safe. um the lights from that are above the steps now will be able to shine directly down without tree interference. So, they did a really great job cleaning that up. So, I think that uh once she gets uh done, I think we're going to start painting it. Um we're trying to figure out paint colors, the type of paint. She's giving us some help on that. And u

what paint the railings? You mean

we're going to paint the railings because uh it will rust um where they've been repaired. So, they were originally painted before. I think they've been painted a couple times. one maybe black and then one was was uh silver. We're thinking about maybe something bright, maybe like green devil green. So, we're trying to figure that out. So, that will happen. Uh we think we might start painting it while she's still working so we can work our way up behind her. Um and so I think she's got probably a few more weeks left there, but uh like I said, some of the stuff that um that she has to do now becomes a little more complicated. There's a lot sections that are missing. Most of the work she's done so far, she've replaced a couple sections, but uh just been fixing some of the the holes that are that you know have over the years have deteriorated through rust and um erosion. Um fixing those. So it's good that we're getting there. So

So you're painting it this month. What's that? You're painting starting to paint it this monthish. We'll start I think we'll start painting this month. Okay. Yeah. The problem is we don't start painting it. They'll get rusty. So, the sooner we do it, the better. We can we'll clean it off with a wire brush and sandpaper and then then paint it.

But that's that's one of the projects that uh is underway, which is great. Uh as Rick alluded to, uh we did a a walk on the trail yesterday with um Mike Gagger, Rick, me, Will Weber from South Bank Partners, and also the inspector from Prime uh Prime Engineering. KYTC now makes you bring in a independent inspector to inspect the work. Uh while we did the inspection, the the the concrete's fine. It's great. Um there was one that had to be replaced. It got cracked um by some heavy equipment. I think they replaced that. So all the concrete is done. It looks fabulous. The views are amazing. They're panoramic uh from the from the trail. But there are some issues with the amount of fill that's in there. They should have put in more fill. Um they've got some places where there's not a lot of distance between the trail and down to the river. So we're having Puce come back. Uh it wasn't filled according to the plan. So this is why we go through and do a walk through like that. So they're working this week uh putting the fill in place to achieve the um slope that was called for the plan. So hopefully that will be done here soon. Uh because of this additional work, we're not going to be able to do the the ribbon cutting this month. So, it looks like we're going to move it to June. Make sure everything's done. There needs to be some touch-up work on some of the concrete up on the uh Manhattan Boulevard where they where it was next to the road curb. There's some gaps that need to be filled so water doesn't infiltrate that. So, they'll be doing that as well. So, but uh they've they've been um told the issues that need to be addressed and they've been working on it since we told them. So, uh, hopefully we would, like I said, it's we can't keep people off the trail. Even though they're down there working occasionally and we close it off, people are loving it and they're coming down there and walking. It's fine if we're not working on it, but when we're working on it, we

we block it off. So, um, it's going really well. Um, what else? Uh, today we had u all the fourth graders from Lincoln Elementary at Wayfair for lunch. not we but the educate NKY. They adopted that class and uh they came I think and talked about that um a couple meetings ago and the kids had a great time. They had two classes of fourth graders all there. We packed the whole inside uh room, the middle room there and they had pizzas and salads and it was really good. They had a lot of folks from uh the NKY building down in Coington, not just Educate NKY but the Catalytic Fund had three or four people there and a bunch of teachers and and the superintendent showed up as well. So, that was a really, really great aid. And finally, repaving of our streets. So, uh, they're nearly done. Uh, I think they'll be finished up this week. It's looking good. They'll after they sit for a while, they'll come back and put the crosswalks and markings down, but uh, yeah, I think u I think they're almost done. So, it took a little while. They're supposed to have done it last fall, but they ran out of time, so we got them early this year. That's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Faucet. Any questions for Mr. Faucet regarding his report this evening?

All right. Thank you very much time for your time, sir. All right. Next up is audience comments. Audience is welcome to address city council, administration, the world. Anything you want to talk about? The Reds are, I believe, currently down two runs. Uh you can talk about that if you like. Mayor Baker, um I was going to ask Mayor Baker, could um I asked Mr. Judge Pendry to come back up and explain why he's here because I don't think he gave an opportunity to I mean, he's running for re-election and he I don't even think he um spoke on that. So, as a registered Republican in Dayton, I would like for him the opportunity to talk to the other registered Republicans to give them a reason why he should earn their vote if that's possible.

You need to come up here because otherwise they won't hear you on TV. Okay. Yeah, you need that mic or you can't hear.

All right. Well, that's wonderful if you're willing to uh uh put up with me again. Um but I, you know, the presentation I made earlier was what I had in mind to do rather than uh politic because it's a business meeting, right? But um so far as the future goes, the first observation I'm going to make is that all of us are aware of things that need to be done that we can't quite get to. And uh I would also say that uh the government time frame for getting things done is usually pretty long. And the result is that a lot of the things that you're uh hoping to get done in the future are already in the in the planning formation stage and uh and may take years. So at any given moment somebody can say what about the future and they may expect that I'm going to come up with all these things that are that bear no relation to anything we're all already doing. But in point of fact what happens is we've already laid the groundwork. we're pursuing things and analyzing whether we're able to capable of doing it and carrying on with the work. So the uh the whole region recognizes that workforce is the number one problem that we have and that is a consequence of uh national and international um demographics. not enough children born and certainly not enough to replace the baby boomers who are retiring. And so we've we've got a a generation to live through where there aren't enough workers in the United States to do the work. We aren't helping by uh chasing off immigrants either. And u so with that in mind, it it it's the reality that we are in a competition for talent. We've got to

produce every get everything we can out of of the kids that have been born here. But we already know enough of them haven't been born to uh populate the businesses we already have, much less the businesses we hope to attract into the area. So, um we need to uh attract talent here that's drawn from other places and when they get here, they need a place to live. And uh there's also a national housing shortage there. We're like 7 million units down nationally and uh something like 6,600 units uh short in the next 5 years above what's already planned and known about in Northern Kentucky. So u because we're interested in workforce and attracting talent, we've got to do something uh with the housing stock across Northern Kentucky. There are some very strange things that happen. Your intuition doesn't serve you well. To the extent that you build worker housing, which is, you know, for for people just starting in the workforce, it's it's less expensive homes and maybe one and twobedroom homes. the extent that you build that and you think you're you're um reaching your goal of providing uh in the current marketplace where there aren't enough homes, those new ones get bit up to the point where they aren't inexpensive anymore. They're they're expensive. And so you actually have to address the housing problem across the whole spectrum and uh and build more of just about everything uh so that there's not pressure in the place uh or you know the price point that you need to house your working population. So um that's what we're going to do. All right.

You all had a project right around the corner. I should know every house on every block by now tonight. Uh you had a project done by the catalytic fund and the catalytic fund has been in business 13 years. They provide a uh a layer in a capital stack of business of projects that are considered too risky by banks. And that's what they did here in your city. and uh they have maybe 25 million to $40 million that they they can call upon and act as as sort of a a bank, an investor in housing. They have not lost one penny in 13 years and over 100 projects and they've produced 3600 housing units. So the number one thing that that housing study we all commission came up with is we need to um increase the investment and allow the catalytic fund as a proven u highquality uh project manager to get involved in more projects and they could double their capacity if we can raise them uh more money. and um they've already gotten a million and a half dollars from Cincinnati Foundation. They're going to get some from Northern Kucky's Horizon Fund and it won't be long and and I think the counties will probably invest some of their reserves in it. So, what's the future? I mean, I know you you asked me tell you the time and I just told you how to build watch, but that's it. We we we've gota we've got to address the worker shortage and you can't do that without addressing the housing problem.

I have a question. Yes, ma'am. Um so I read so much about uh younger millennials and uh Gen Z not being really not being able to find jobs. So what is it or are they not skilled enough or not skilled in the right way or

Well, I I will tell you that the uh u the business cycle has not been repealed even though the the upward trajectory uh in the United States of U business and development has has not been reversed. So you're still going to get some of this. And right now we're in a little bit of a dip if you ask me because of national policies that throttled the economy a little bit. Um but uh we will be on the upswing again sometime and we will we will absolutely feel the shortages I'm talking about when when that happens. Now the the um the Gen Z generation uh there's a mystery to explain too. There's a there's a group um from 16 to like 25 uh and this is even reflected in the statistics in Northern Kentucky um that are not we're not sure what they're doing. They're not working and uh they may be in their parents' basement or something like that

for them

playing video games. I don't know. But um there there is a little bit of a mysterious thing going on there. The theory is that that kids sort of have an extended educational life these days. They get into sports. Sports now, you know, they you go all over the United States if you're on a in a in a certain kind of league. And um and they take, you know, maybe five or six years to graduate instead of three or four. Uh so there is a little mystery going on, but my own personal feeling is that uh kids are kids and people are people and we're not that much different than we once were. It's more like the incentives have changed a little bit and uh maybe we need to consider changing those incentives back.

I have two kids and they are young adults and um with them healthc care is a huge issue. Um child care insane price if you want to work and have a kid, right? Um what was my other one? Healthcare. Oh, the cost of a home. Crazy. Um the cost of living skyrocketing. So when you're young and you're going to have a baby and do what? I mean, it's it's a lot, you know, and so when it's a history that people aren't having babies, it's daunting to have a five-year plan and a 10-year plan when you're 25 years old and you're facing this kind of stuff

and you put your finger on things that the feds and the state need to do and it's really hard. Those things are so expensive. Child care can cost a family $9,000 a year. Yeah. And pen up. If you're looking at that kind of differential, then you know, and a house that when I moved here in 213 2013, there were houses for $22,000. I remember um a nice one for $42,000. Now there are dumpy houses for $370,000. I don't understand the math, you know? I mean, so when we're not having a lot of kids, I can see. Yeah.

Yeah. I started in that whole thing about how long it takes to do things in government and the punchline to that is I'd like to stay and finish a lot. Okay. Okay. So, you know, I may have been around for 28 years as judge executive, but the the conversation needs to be about the next four years and whether I'm the right guy for that. So, thank you for your time. Thank you. Yeah. Anybody else? Any questions for judge?

Thanks, Judge. Thank you, sir. Good luck. All right, that doesn't negate the fact that the podium is still open. Jerry, saw you making your way up that way. Oh, yeah. Name address or at least

Yeah. Jerry Huntley, 585 Manhattan. Uh, first of all, thank you to everyone on council with what you guys have done with Riverwatch down on the waterfront. It's amazing. We get so many compliments from people asking questions and it's just, you've done a great job. Let's just keep it going. My only concern was, and I've spoken to a couple of the police officers, etc. We've had some boys down there that's really been pushing the speed limit. when I'm say pushing it, we're talking probably 25 to 30 m an hour on their little motorbikes down there. So, my suggestion would be to post a speed limit that gives our police people something that if they do see them that they can literally do something.

Is there a speed limit on a sidewalk? Oh, yeah. Are you talking about riverfront? It's not the trail. Oh, yeah. The trail. I think they're allowed to be on there, but they're not allowed to be going. Well, they they apparently seven. Seven is the speed limit. Let's just make that up. There you go. I'm with you. I mean, that's a good jog. Okay, maybe 10.

And with that thought in mind, I thought maybe, and I don't want to throw more work at police chief here, but if we could get one of his officers, maybe go to the school and just tell the kids, "Hey, we know you're going to ride bikes. We know you've got some new powered stuff, whatever. You've got to obey the limits. I literally saw a boy carrying his little sister on a moped just about plane just go right into the side of a vehicle at the corner of Barry and his house right there. I don't know what that cross street is. Fifth or third? I just went like, "Oh my gosh, thank you God it didn't happen." But

if we could get across to the parents that they are responsible for these kids, then you might see some action. If not, it's it's not going to happen. Gary, when are you seeing it generally on the on the trail? When are you saying after school? Oh, yeah. It's after school. Okay. And don't get me wrong, it's minimal. It's usually the same couple kids. Okay. And then but that was my only comments there. But no, you guys have done a great job. We really appreciate it. Um, I have been, just for the record, Cassie and I have been tag teaming trying to get everything cleaned up. They're working on it today. Yes, they are working on part of it, but it's still not mowed yet, and that's what I've been on them the most about lately.

So, other than that, thank you all. Appreciate it. Have you noticed with the new radar sign, the 25 mph speed limit on Manhattan Boulevard, have you noticed a difference?

Cool. One other quick comment to you, sir. I think one of the biggest aggravations that we as citizens, these people as council members, I know Belleview's mayor as well, keep getting the runaround about it's not my responsibility on Route 8 because it's a quote unquote state highway, etc., etc. Something's got to happen. Joe's absolutely correct. And the big bottleneck is at Party Source where people are coming down the road from McDonald's. They fill it up. Then you get a car that doesn't want to go through the intersection because they want to get in the left-hand turn and you'll sit there for three stop lightss. So, somebody's got to address it. I mean, when you say there's going to be open meetings, we'll be there. I can promise you he and I will be there. I promise you they will too.

You know, I mean, it's it's one of those things that something has to happen. So, thank you. Appreciate what you

Christian Neighbor house 439 Manhattan. Yeah. Um I'm up here to to say the same thing. Uh it uh Judge Pendry mentioned an OKI uh potential grant um that you know sounded very interesting, more to the point. It sounds like there's a quarterly meeting that the county has with KYTC. He made an open invitation uh to have uh someone join him for that. Um I'm up here to do the same thing Jerry is, which is to just be right in front of you guys. Um it remains a problem. It remains a topic of conversation amongst all the residents. It remains the uh the traffic issue and and one of the major issues, you know, in the city and the city that is otherwise uh doing really good. So I would just you know urge uh whatever action can be taken. And then uh also want to just uh congratulate uh both all the council members and and everyone in the administration as well as the police department for uh this wonderful ranking this 22 uh safest city 20 uh second safest city. Uh I think you said uh down from 120th. There you go. That's outstanding and that's uh that's just a fantastic thing. So, uh hats off to uh everyone here and please chief. Thank you,

Christian. The is is uh I'm sorry, what's your last name? Neighbor house. Neighbor house. Oh, it's nice. Um are you talking about it party source or all of the traffic? Well, I think it's true that the party source is the main culprit. I don't know. I understand that a that there's maybe some confusion about a study that was done, a traffic study. Um I think maybe when Manhattan Boulevard was going in, I I think it's been mentioned that a study was done then, but I think maybe it's also possible that that study was just done by Cardinal Engineering, and there's some question as to whether that was a full-blown s uh study, traffic study.

So, um I think that is a main culprit there. I'm not sure that it's not more than that. I don't know if if anything can be done to change the the the way the lights run. I don't know, you know, what the what the the the issue, you know, if it boils down to one or if it's multivaried. I don't know. But, um, it is a it is an issue. Um, and, uh, I think it's time to do whatever we can to uh to get the state to to pay attention to it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Christian. Anybody else? Podium. Um, Judge Pendry, when's the next meeting? The quarterly meeting for KYTC.

Okay. Okie do. But it's a quarterly and we're invited. Okie do. Anyone else? Moving along in new business.

We uh want to discuss some short-term rentals. So, um, last week I sent you all a pretty detailed memo about short-term rentals in Northern Kentucky and what cities are doing. We've had a lot of residents come complain about, um, problems in their neighborhoods, nearest short-term rentals. So, there's some been some this discussion, should we be looking at regulating them, which currently we do not regulate short-term rentals in the city of Dayton. Um, a lot of cities don't, but several do and most do. River cities are regulating them. I don't think Londo is, but I know that Cumington, Newport, Belleview are regulated. Them is also they're being regulated in Florence, Erlanganger. I think I have a few others there. Um, Southgate, can't remember. Um, but there are different approaches. Some some take a very draconian approach like Belleview. They require that anybody with a short-term rental live in that actual building. um they're the only ones that are requiring that in Northern Kentucky. Others like Cumington are saying you can only put one every block face. Um other examples are, you know, requiring them only in certain zoning classifications. Um putting a density cap, setting occupancy limits. So, I went through and I kind of addressed some of these things and and so I think one of the things that we might want to consider is do we limit them in certain juris certain um residential jurisdictions? We have 16 different residential zones in this city and most of the our largest our largest zoning is R1JJ which is most of the downtown here and it goes into the hills. As you get into the more spurban areas up on the hills, the zoning changes a little bit. Most of our STRs are in the R1JJ. We

have I think we might have a couple up in the mixed uh use um zone that Manhattan Boulevard. So, um so I've just kind of threw this out to you guys. It's a lot of information. I just wanted to kind of get it on the table and start talking about it and decide what we want to do. There are two different ways you can attack it. One is through zoning regulations and one are through just regulations such as requiring insurance. If you do zoning regulations, you got to go through the whole zone text amendment zoning change process. Now, if you currently own a if we did go that route, if you currently have a short-term rental and operate it, you would be grandfathered in. It would be a pre-existing non-conforming use. We cannot take that away, but you could stop future uses in the city in those zones that you say this is the only place that's allowed to go. So that's probably the approach I think would be the most effective. And the, you know, the decision is do you want to get rid of all your STRs? Because quite honestly, we've had a number of people have come in and taken really bad properties and made them very, very nice by turning them into STRs and they've actually improved the quality of life of the neighborhoods. We also have some that have uh don't have very good controls and they allow people to run wild and they put too many people in there and there's parking issues. Uh they don't bring their garbage cans back in. So we have those as well. Those are more those are not necessarily zoning rules but more code enforcement type rules. So, um, I just threw things out there. Like one suggestion I had is if you, you know, if you're really trying to focus your STRs, uh, in your downtown area where you have your restaurants, bars, and entertainment, maybe you let them be in the central business district and maybe two blocks into the R1JJ on both sides of Sixth Avenue. That's one idea. you know that those are people that could

walk down into your urban core, your central business district and then visit the restaurants and bars. Um, but do you want to do you want to have them in Manhattan Harbor? Do you want to have them out in Grand Park? You know, do you want to have them in the more suburban neighborhoods? I don't know. That's what you all have to decide. So, and then people that live in those areas where you're allowed them, they're going to say, "Well, why are you allowing them here and not allow them in out there?" So, a lot of difficult decisions you have to make in order to to address this issue. So, I didn't know if you have any questions. I know there was a lot of information in that and this may be I'm just kicking this off tonight saying, "Hey, let's start the discussion since there's been people asking us to do that and that's what the memo is about and that's what tonight's discussion's about."

Are we discussing it tonight? Yeah, that's what there's no we're not enacting anything. It's just I'm just trying to get some direction from you. There's a lot of ways we could go about what you want to do. Why are short-term rental properties not considered commercial? That's a business. And you can't put a business in an R1JJ. Well, they're still a business. They have to get an occupational license. And it's but it's a residential. It's not it's it's a it's a residential unit. Uh just like if you're own rental property, it's a business, but it's in a residential neighborhood. So, you can have a short-term rental business in a strictly residential zone

just like you can have a regular rental house in a residential district. It's the same thing as owning rental property. It's just that it's for a short period of time. Well, I know that the complaints I'm sorry. Um I know that most of the complaints from the neighbors are uh parking, which is an issue in all over town, in every city. Um, but also with the occasional loud parties or didn't I mean we adopted a nuisance ordinance a long time ago that I thought was pretty strong. Does that not address that issue that if if somebody's having a party in an Airbnb and the police have to come that we do a a

three strikes basically there has to be three strikes before you can cite them. But just like any other house or apartment. Yeah. So that's that's code enforcement. You can't do it just for one instance. I want to what you just said. All right. Okay. Um I'm very curious about this because I have an Airbnb. I know. We've had it for like a year and a half now. But you grandfather changes.

That's not about me. I wouldn't vote anyway because Okay. But I'm curious because we really watch our relationship with Airbnb like a hawk. Okay. And they're on us. They monitor all conversations. You're only allowed to communicate through the app. If anybody tries to get you off the app or anything, they are in there. They're on you. They are watching everything. They do not want parties. You say anything that implies a party and they are shutting it down. They're rerouting the potential guest to a hotel. I mean, they're all over you. So, god forbid we got some kind of call about that we were allowed in a neighborhood or a party. It affects your visibility on the app. You might even lose um you might even get thrown off the app. So have you or anybody with people who have complaint I for well I guess my first question is are we talking about certain properties that are problems same couple little or is it like a more widespread thing for complaints about Airbnbs?

We're talking about the properties that residents come here and complain about. Yeah. So that's in my experience it's a couple issues. It's a couple of of repetitive complaints about I can name them. But we had one an incident on Boone Street which is the beginning of Dayton Pike where some kids rented it and they all a sudden they had 30 kids there. Yeah. No, they shut that right down. Yeah. I mean so but but it still happened. So I mean but it might have happened once because it's not the way it go. And so

I'm curious have people called and contacted Airbnb about specific incidences or has the city because as a host, God forbid. So, I'm wondering how is all this going on? Everybody's compl but nobody has called Airbnb on any problem properties because you don't as a host want that to ever happen. Well, I would know how to call Airbnb. Have you? No, I know how to call 911. I know how to call him. But then we're making all this legislation and Okay. And making it a thing like we have to do this, we have to do that. It's like you call 9 you call Airbnb and everyone is freaking out. Well, do you call do they actually have a number you can call because Okay. Because a lot of these technology companies don't you have to an email and

but you you have a phone number you can call I think so. Yeah. Because if check that because Facebook doesn't all those oh they don't you don't it's impossible to get a person on the phone and short-term rentals aren't limited just Airbnbs. There's VBOs. There's people who have

I mean they make it abundantly clear in their rules that no parties no um complaints from the neighborhood. you know, they are playing both sides of the fence, right? You know, and it ruins their business model and their brand to have this consistently thought of as a negative thing. So, it goes on and on. How Airbnb assesses for signs of a party. I mean, they're all over you about this stuff. And um they don't allow you to communicate with these people all the time. They'll cut you right off if they don't like what's what's not allowed. Reducing community disturbances, enforcing this policy. We're here to help. um neighborhood support team contact. Um reservation is automatically rejected and the guest is redirected to an alternative listing or accommodation type such as a private room in a hotel. Reservations are flagged for host to review and determine whether to accept or deny the reservation. I mean it they are all over you about parties and about disturbances and about So I'm just curious how's this how's this all we live in fear of this kind of stuff. How how is

I'm just responding to residents complaining and directioning fruit is calling Airbnb. They won't like it. They won't like it. They'll get downgraded on the app. So, well then, so anyway, that's that's one thing then then that's what you want to do then then that's our approach. I don't know how I don't know how to get that message out. But but that I mean you I think I'm a pretty techsavvy guy and I don't know how to call Airb I don't know how to call cops. I know, but that's invol that's do what you want, but that's involving our resources and our cops and acting like we're getting invaded and it's like Airbnb doesn't want that kind of trouble.

I'm just Should it be a company? I'm just playing devil's advocate here. Should it be a city uh initiative to make a marketing initiative that does your neighbor have Airbnb? If so, call one Airbnb. I don't know. It's just kind of it exists, you know? I mean, you don't want it. You don't want it. and I wouldn't want that either.

Um, yeah, I don't know. Um, I have many questions. I don't know how much time we have, but uh I feel that why would the city recommend corelling Airbnbs into an overlay area that eliminates Dayton residents, owners, residents, Dayton residents who own a property and live in it. um to rent out parts of a property of their own property that they pay for and they live in. Um what is the goal here? Is it the goal to corral guests into spending money at local businesses? It would probably raise the property values of people within that thing and it will kind of rob other people. We're in a tight environment right now that there was one time where people took in borders because in the depression I mean you have that right. this thing right here could be an Airbnb, you know. Um, Airbnb started out with like a room in your house. And it was only later that these um investors came in, swooped in, and started taking single family house with the, you know, so I would hate to take away the right of Dayton property owners to do something with the with the thing that they live in.

That's your call. That's why I'm just You don't make the decision. Okay. I mean, your recommendation started putting people in. I'm like, "Holy, it wasn't a recommendation. I'm just saying you could do this." A lot of cities, they allow Airbnbs near the entertainment district where people are generally going. That's all I'm saying. Our entertainment district is avenue. You wanted to do that, you could. Or, you know, it's all I'm just kind of giving you what out there. I'm not saying this is what I recommend. Might I suggest either a public hearing or a ad hoc committee put together that we can talk about this maybe more in depth for those that are really passionate about it? Well, isn't this what this is supposed to do? Just a general conversation.

I'm trying to get direction from you guys. If you all want to go with the council member here and say we don't want to do anything, that's fine. I just you asked for help on this issue. I'm trying to give you an analysis of what is out there and you decide what you want. Some cities don't do anything. We haven't done anything. I think we need to get really granular on what is the problem? Because that's what I like. Is it one place? Is it five places? What are they doing? Where are they? How often? What has been done to them? Who's complaining? What is the issue instead of sort of a blanket? Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of what I'm suggesting. I don't think we have enough information to really hash anything out tonight or come up with any actionable items. So, it might be worth tableabling this.

Yeah. Well, if I could, when we discussed this a couple of months ago, you said that the state legislature uh was shooting down any kind of an short-term rental because of lobbying. As I mentioned, is that still the case? As I mentioned in my memo, it came within a hair of being passed and only because of Northern Kentucky did it not pass. And there Kelsey believes it's going to be passed next year. So even if we pass something, there's a good chance that some of the things that we're doing will be prohibited. We won't be allowed to do it, especially zoning related stuff.

That ties into the question that I had was, you know, when you mentioned either an ordinance or doing it as something in planning and zoning, what how is there any difference in how if we did adopt something on either one of those venue, you know, those paths, is there any difference? um with what would happen if it something passes in Frankfurt.

Yeah. The difference is if you just do regulatory restrictions and not zoning restrictions that would apply around across the city. If you're doing zoning restrictions, you're going to restrict it to certain areas of the city. So right now we don't have anything. At least we had some restrictions that would apply if you want to allow it in everywhere in the city. Okay. But you got to do this. A lot of places charge, you know, we charge 40 bucks for every rental unit in the city for our inspection program. Some cities are charging $400, $500 a year for um Airbnbs. So, I mean, I think we've already charging 40. Do you do an additional amount? There's additional work associated with I don't know. That's things for you all to decide. But yeah,

if you did charge extra, would it be for everybody? Do you make a differentiation between investors that come in here and buy a place or Dayton residents that live there, which would be like a huge difference? I I don't personally think you should, but a lot of cities do. I'm just saying. I'm just telling you what other cities are doing. It's not my recommendation. We're already charging $40 for Airbnbs. They're required to be inspected. Yep. But other cities are saying because you're Airbnbs, we're going to charge more. Are we still getting complaints and problems with these short-term rental properties?

Occasionally. It's Cassie. Parking is the primary issue. a little bit

when you're in a res and you have a party of 20 people staying next door. They're out in the yard. They're playing cornhole. I just think, you know, when they're not used to that that it becomes a problem. I think I do know like at my last codeboard meeting there were a couple people there that were complaining about the parking issues. They have several Airbnbs around where they live. Um, you know, and some people require some cities require you to have off street parking, but that's almost impossible for many of our our buildings that were built before we had cars. So, you know,

I mean, we get parking complaints all day long. So, add, you know, another unit with maybe five or six cars. You know, you have five or six families coming together, all stay in a location or they're all going to the Reds game or whatever. So, they're, you know, kind of coming and going and I just think parking is the biggest issue with the Airbnb. How many places are like this that could accommodate 20 people and it come with all these cars? Like how many? Like I probably maybe three. Three. Mhm. But we also have, you know, streets with four Airbnbs on them. So they're all rented. Uhhuh. And they're Well, they're not really small. I would say, you know, three bedrooms.

Okay. So you come with, you know, three different couples with kids and all that stuff. It It adds up quick. you know, people can No, I I've been monitoring this since I came here 6 years ago. And so for the first three years, maybe four years, really not a problem because I've watched all these cities adopted them and I think, okay, I'm not we're not really having any issues here. But it's been the last couple years, I think, as more have come here that we've starting to hear hear the complaints. So, it's not nothing compared to what I see in other cities,

but it is it is more prominent now than it was the first four years that I was here at the city. And Jay, can I just get a clear understanding of what this is just a discussion? Yes. For you want to get in front of this before it is a problem. And of course, we're all going to have different opinions and we'll come together at another time, right? To all form give our opinions and then we we form something after that. Yeah. I just put together that memo for you just to kind of give you a flavor for what's going on in Northern Kentucky. And maybe we don't do anything, especially if it looks like the legislature may, you know, limit what we can do next year. But or maybe you pass something that deals with how many you have in one block or parking. I mean,

parking again, you know, a lot of these places don't have any place to put a parking off street parking. So, could you give a super quick recap of that legislation? the state legislation was it it was it lobbyed by Airbnb and it was to take so it was going to be super uh pro Airbnbs or STRs or what was it? It's been they're Airbnb is spending money in legislatores all around the country. Okay. They're trying to do this everywhere. They're trying to say no zoning, no regulations. We, you know, we should be able to do what we want to do. So,

and not just Airbnb, it's VBO and other short we call short-term rentals because it covers all those I think Erin was right. I think we need real clear clarity on what has happened and what has been said and what are the complaints and what who said what and if there are any pro problem specific problem properties what like exactly are we looking ahead instead of kind of vague

and I mean right now we have pretty good relationship with a lot of the landlords. So, we did reach out to one landlord, sent us the video. He said they were loud, but you know, the police department came, they were quiet. So, I just think a lot of people, you know, when you're living in a residential neighborhood, you don't want that, you know, they're coming in at midnight after they've been to the Reds game and the bar and I mean, and it just gets a little loud. You know, if you if you're used to living in the city and you have neighbors that, you know, kind of hang out and do that, that's you're used to that. But people that are not used to that, they think that's kind of like a loud party.

Would you say when you say it, is it a small group of them that you keep hearing about over and over again or is it like a whole bunch of We had a problem with one or two, but they were larger. Okay. Um so we, you know, talked to the landlord, property manager, and he's kind of had a great handle on that. Okay. So, so we we have some are pretty sophisticated. They have cameras outside, even not the private areas, but period of the property. They want you to we have to they also have like their own private security force. So if they have an issue, they go there, but that's expensive. A lot of people can't afford to do that. And even with those guys that do that, we've had issues at their properties, too. So, you know, there's some things you can do to prevent it, which is

Yeah, it's it's just like what you just described on there. I can't remember what it's called. It's called like open booking or something like that. Anybody can get in there and take it. of course we do not have that, you know, and so they have to explain who they are and blah blah blah. We're super selective. So I think that's kind of a choice on some of these investors that they have open booking and you know, if you're in the system, you can get in there and it does not have to be. So I think if there are problem properties, a little pressure might go a long way and like you better change those settings and not be letting everybody in, you know, and yeah, I mean think about it. You know, most people come into town, they want to go to the Red's game, a concert, you know, football, whatever. So they're all aquarium Creation Museum.

Yeah. So, I mean, they are going to be a little bit louder than your average. You know, I just came from the grocery store and I'm going to carry my grocery. I guess if you have these huge group, we don't have that, but I guess if there'd be a huge group. Yeah. Your situation is a lot different, too. You don't have It's back. Nobody's Nobody's on the street, right? No, but we have four maximum. We don't have these big I don't know about these big places. So, that's what I'm curious how big of a deal it is. I don't Yeah. Yeah. And I'd be willing to, you know, I mean, we can probably pull, you know, police records and see what kind of Just when we as we start to talk about I just want to make sure I understand exactly who what I don't think it's a it's a major ordeal. I do think that parking is top on the line. Parking is already Exactly.

Yeah. Exactly. You too. All right. I I think with all of the possible changes that if we do anything in the next couple of months, it might get shot down in January by the legislature. I think if we can find a comparable uh model that might work here, but as Cassie said, parking is an issue. Uh we've got we've already got long-term rental properties, even owner occupied properties that have too many cars, right? And people and have noise problems and everything else. Um and as you said, Jay, I think in in a lot of cases, they're actually better maintained

because of the review process, right? And I know when I've traveled recently and and there was one place I was looking at, but it was on street parking versus off- streetet parking provided. I chose the one off street. So, I don't see that it's I'm not getting the idea that it's that big of a problem here in town to really because it's going to take a heck of a lot of effort.

I agree that compared to other cities, we don't have the issues that other cities have. maybe because we're a little bit further from downtown Cincinnati and all the entertainment stuff, but it is more than it was the first four years. And can I bring up a point of of potential growth, too, cuz we're talking about the potential um refurbishing of the Gillan or Gillan Park. If there's baseball tournaments and things going on like that, we should uh encourage, that's my point of trying to encourage people to have short-term rentals and Airbnbs in this city because we don't have any hotels. And if we're going to have people coming to destinations here and make this a destination city, we would it would do us better to have short-term rentals here. So, if we could put some kind of parameters on that early and be ahead of what's going on and have these conversations, I think it's a great for because we're all going to have different opinions, but keeping the future of growth of Dayton in mind as well.

Good point. It's also a great way to expose people to Dayton. They don't know where it is. They just know it's four minutes from downtown from our listing, but they are very charmed by Dayton and they do go to a lot of the businesses, very charmed. So, it's kind of a a nice exposure. Right. So, what do you at this point? Do you want to um us to kind of pull back and just maybe look at some regulations that are not zoning related but more like I'd more code related. I want to see exactly what I'm curious like how is it blah blah like some kind of report like this is why we're we're worried. Okay. I don't want to make like blanket legislation over sort of I hope it doesn't like I don't know. Casey knows where they are because she gets she gets all the calls. Okay.

Okay. We'll do that. We'll put that together for you. Okay, good. Thanks.

An update from our city council committees.

Yeah, I'll kick it off. Um, so the finance committee had their meeting right before this one. I think it went well. Um, we just had some good questions that got answered. Um, and I I think um there might be more questions pop up after this after the budget was proposed. Um, so we'll see if we need a special session or not, but um, overall I think, uh, it went well and, uh, no concerns or action items coming from that. Uh, on the sports and recreation side of the house, um, I am, uh, short a co-chair, so if any other council members want to step up for the sports committee, uh, open to that. Also looking for some citizen members to join that one as well. Uh but as far as activities that are happening, uh the run club um that is meeting on Monday nights uh will not happen this upcoming Monday nor the following one. Uh the following one is because the uh the 5K that is being put on uh by the city. So instead it'll be the Monday morning run with the 5K meeting at the Belleview Beach Park. Um and then um Terrace, I don't know if you wanted to give any update at all on anything from the pickle ball ball side of things. We're just out there playing.

What What nights and times? Uh when you see us out there playing, we're playing at time. Okay. So, nothing organized at this time. We're playing almost every day. Got it. Awesome. Well, that's it from those committees. Unless you guys have any questions. Marketing.

Oh, the marketing and communication committee. We had our meeting again last month. Some great ideas thrown around. Uh Allison is uh doing a lot of research on how we can propagate uh messaging about Dayton out to things like the databases that they list on real estate listings. Um one of the suggestions that we had was to look into a mailing piece, something to send out to the citizens, you know, just a different way of communicating rather than just all electronic. And I think Jared, that uh sample that you sent out, is that going to be mailed out to uh date and addresses?

Yeah, every date address will get an event calendar. Great minds think alike. Um so the next meeting is tomorrow night here at 6:00 p.m. That is all, sir. Thank you, sir. All right. Uh, do we have a reason for executive session this evening? Hey, mayor, just real quick item that wasn't listed under new business. Um, there was a cleanup project that happened a couple weeks ago. Yes, there was by the Rotary Club

and that was a fantastic event um, sponsored by the Rotary Club. Uh, it sounds like they're going to probably try and do more of those in the future. Uh, but they're also uh, open to ideas and suggestions for any other community service projects. So, if you have any of those, please uh reach out to city council members and we can get it over to the Rotary Club for any projects that I might be down in the city. Um, and then the last thing is uh it'd be nice to hear maybe once a year from a representative from what some of our boards. So, just an idea out there that maybe once a year one representative from one board comes and just addresses council or at least provide a report. Yes,

I I'll I'll present the report. Just give it to me. Board report. All right. Thank you, member Jud. That is a great point out about both those items. Uh goes back to my previous question. Do you have a reason for executive session this evening? Yes, we have. Yes. So, there is a motion. Do I have a motion to go to executive session? I'll make a motion. I'll second. number has been motioned and seconded with before I'm sorry to interrupt you mayor but you need to you need to announce under what provision it's I'll read KS please thank you

this is KR pursuant to KRS 61.8101C 8101c discussion of proposed or pending litigation against or on behalf of a public agency. Thank you. We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor? I. All right. We're going to take a threem minute rest assessment. 53.

was taken in executive session. Would anybody like to make a motion for us to adjurnn? I'll make a motion to adjurnn. I'll second that motion. Member Kelly, member Neman's made the second. All in favor? I See you guys on Memorial Day.