Town Council - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, April 1, 2026

About this meeting

Government Body
Town Council
Meeting Type
Town Council
Location
Danville, IN
Meeting Date
April 1, 2026

Transcript

65 sections (from 185 segments)

0:43 – 1:04Speaker 1

It is 7:00. We have a forum. Please stand for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

1:06 – 1:51Speaker 1

Thank you. We do have a qual. Mr. D will not be here tonight for first item on the agenda is approval of the March 18th council meeting minutes. Any questions or comments on those minutes? Motion to approve. I'll make a motion to approve the March 18th, 2026 council meeting. Motion by Mr. Gerald. Second, Mr. Chadam. All in favor? I oppose. Motion carries 4 Z. Thank you. Uh, next up is Max Pending Fire Department. Mr. Morgan, do you have a comment? I take it. I was just going to let you know that there's been no request to speak today. Thank you. Yes. Overlook that item. Thank you. No worries. That's what you pay me for.

1:48 – 3:23Speaker 1

Chief Duncan, Mr. President, Councilman, let's keep with our nearly three-year tradition. When an employee comes off probation, do your badge paying ceremony. So, at this time, Commissioner, it's all yours. Good evening. Today marks a special day for our fire department and our community. Darian Gardner and Steuart Johnson, you have chosen a path of service, courage, and dedication. Your training has prepared you for the challenges ahead, but it is your heart that will guide you through the toughest moments. As your badge is pinned on you today, know that you're not just joining a department. You're becoming part of a family. A family that will have your back in the face of danger, celebrate your triumphs, and support you through the tough times. Wear your badge with pride. Serve with honor. And as always, keep in mind why you choose this chose this noble profession. Congratulations to both of you. Do you need me to do it?

3:24Speaker 1

I believe in you.

3:30 – 3:45Speaker 1

Wow. Anyone else that wants to come up before we bring the fire department up? Give the girls a favor. Anybody wants to be in a picture? Come up. Take a picture.

4:03Speaker 1

Okay. Yeah.

4:20 – 5:20Speaker 1

Hang on a second. We just We need to get one for our social media. Anybody in uniform, come on up. Go ahead and step on your back there and be a part of There we go.

5:26 – 6:02Speaker 1

That's perfect. Cory, you're not in there. You're not. You're not. You are. Okay. Okay. Hi, everyone. Look at you, please. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate your service.

6:10 – 6:49Speaker 1

Thank you. Okay, next up is new employer from water department. come for you tonight to introduce the team employees of the water department. To my right here, I have David White. On my left, I have Nick Scott.

6:50 – 7:22Speaker 1

You guys have anything you'd like to say? You have any comments? Happy to be here. It's a pleasure. Pleasure to be here. We're glad to have you. Would you guys would you mind take a quick picture? Thank you. Matt, where are you at?

7:34 – 7:48Speaker 1

Thank you. Welcome home to Charlotte. Nice.

7:53 – 8:23Speaker 1

All right. Uh down to report on remote. I think Hello there. Can you hear me? We can hear you. Okay, great. Let's see if I can share the slides. Let's see. There we go. Can you guys see the presentation? Yes. Yes. And we have a copy.

8:21 – 10:20Speaker 1

Okay, great. Well, thank you for having me virtually this evening. Heidi Amsspa, principal at Baker Tilly. We are financial adviserss for local governments, as you guys know, on council. Um, this reporting requirement is the first of five different reporting requirements that redevelopment commissions are required to do uh throughout the calendar year for having tiff areas outstanding and being a redevelopment commission. And so this um this information is information that is put together and uh accumulated into gateway Indiana's gateway that the DLGF performs and through the template that is on gateway that is the submission to the state. And so uh this information we have uploaded into gateway and it will be um submitted if it hasn't already been submitted after this meeting. um the redevelopment commission has received this information and accepted it and it then has to be presented to the council. So I'll walk through uh that for you. Um so as I just mentioned, this is one of five different reporting requirements for the calendar year. I just lay those out here. So um every just forformational purposes. Um so after this April 15th, the TIFF management report deadline comes TIFF excess notification letters that are due June 15th. Um so it just um cruises throughout the year with these different requirements in different either council or RDC presentations. So the first section of the tiff management report is who was on the redevelopment commission in 2025. Um I should have said that this report reports on prior year activities. So all activities that occurred within 2025. And so you can see the list of members there um with involvement from the chamber and also the school corporation

10:17 – 12:16Speaker 1

which is great. Um there are two sections of the report that um lists out if any RDC members changed throughout the year and also if the RDC has any employees. So you can see the note at the bottom that there were no changes in RDC members and that the RDC has no employees. The town has two tiff areas that are currently outstanding. The downtown main one uh allocation area that was created in August of 2019. It currently does not have an expiration date. And then the east main corridor allocation area also created in August of 2019 and does not have an expiration date. These two separate allocation areas are within the consolidated economic development area, meaning you can spend TIFF revenues in serving or benefiting uh really both of the allocation areas because of the economic development area boundaries. Um so that gives you flexibility in the town flexibility. The next section of the report is on multiple different facets of the finances of the redevelopment commission. Uh the first section at the top is total revenues and expenditures detailed by TIFF area. So you can see the total revenues uh for the downtown area were uh a little over 15,000 for 2025 and they had no expenditures out of that TIFF fund. And then the east and main corridor allocation area collected 200 670,000 and some change in 2025 and it spent a little over 300,000 in 2025. The detail of that 320,000 is also required in the next section of the report. You can see the

12:14 – 13:52Speaker 1

redevelopment commission expenditures there. They do have to be detailed out in the state board of accounts categories which is why you see the category subcategories and descriptions that you do here. Um and then the transfer to the town you guys might be aware of is was for that storm water project. So um another section of the finance report is if there was any tiff distributed to other units of government within the town and you can see that from the east and main corridor that that 300,000 came to the town from the redevelopment commission for that wastewater extension project. Any questions there? Uh the next section is fund balances. So these are the fund balances as of 123125 uh for the downtown area and also the east and main corridor area. There are other sections of the report. Um if you had the there's a debt section of the report um which you guys do the redevelopment commission does not have any debt currently payable from TIFF. Um there's information on if you have a housing tiff area that you would have to submit information but you guys don't have um a housing tiff section. Um so that is the report in a nutshell. I would take any questions you might have.

13:47 – 14:26Speaker 1

Thank you. Any questions for anyone? It appears there are no questions for you. Good job. All right. Thanks so much. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. This does require a vote. So with no questions, I would uh entertain a motion. I'll make a motion that we approve the information reporting. Motion by Mr. Shadow. Second by Mr. Herby. All in favor? All opposed? Motion carries 40. Thank you. Thank you. Destination Danville, Mr. Ford.

14:30 – 15:21Speaker 1

Good evening. This event is Destination Vanville Festival sponsored by Sarah Fence and Jess Cotton. Um they're requesting road closure of South Wal Street and South Jefferson Street from West Main Street to West Broadway Street as well as Marion Street from South Jefferson Street to South Washington Street. uh display takes place on June 6th. Setup time is at noon. The event time is 4 to 10:00 p.m. And then they should be finished airing down by midnight. This event is a vendor festival with food trucks and music. I'm just excited that we're getting to do some events outside.

15:21 – 16:06Speaker 1

Under type event, it says fundraiser slice charitable event. So roughly how much how much is raised from this event and who are the charities receiving the proceeds? I am not sure. Shouldn't we know that? We can look into it. Yeah. I didn't realize that it was a fundraiser. I thought it was a private event, but it turned to break even. It says fundraiser charitable event. So, uh I I would not suggest delaying approval, but I would like maybe a report at the next meeting on an estimate of how much what funds will be raised and who the charities are that receive those funds.

16:03 – 16:48Speaker 1

My guess is it's a typo. I would say it is considered a private for pardon. I would could say say that it's probably a private for-profit event, but we'll find out. Okay. Music, right? A bunch of vendors that are selling as well. Yeah. So, is is it not more really a community event than it is I mean, you're bringing people together at a community event. It it is, but they they charge for booth space. Yeah. Like I said, like Mr. Herby said, their goal is to break even. Yeah, that's all I had.

16:44 – 17:00Speaker 1

It's a great I always to approve the special event application and the road closures as presented. Motion by Mr. Irby. Second.

16:57 – 17:44Speaker 1

Second by Mr. Gerald. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries 40. Thank you. Uh last uh last day of school event Mr. Ford last day of school event is sponsored by downtown Dville Partnership Riot Builders and Danville Dips. Um there are questions for closure from Marian Street from South Washington Street to South Indiana Street. This event is on May 21st. The setup is at 100 p.m. Event time is 3 to 5:00 p.m. and tear down at 6:00 p.m. This event is for local students. uh last day of school, they get a free scoop of ice cream. Students will have access to the street for inflatables and games and entertainment.

17:42 – 18:26Speaker 1

Is the ice cream just limited to the students? I don't know about that either. I'll buy some ice cream. Okay. Any serious questions? We can set up some type of fake class and it could be your last day as well. You want it to be my last name? No. For this class. Oh, I'm going to move to approve this special request. Motion by Mr. Irvate. Second. Second, Mr. Chadam. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. 40. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, request to spend to spend funds utility billing. Miss Loftton.

18:23 – 19:54Speaker 1

Yes. Um, I come before you tonight to request switching utility billing software from Tyler Technologies to Frey municipal software cubic. Uh, I came before you two years ago to switch payroll and financial from Tyler Technologies to Loun Associates and we've been very happy with the services that we've gotten from them and seems to be more efficient for us. So, we're looking to get the utility billing software in a more efficient and cost-saving. Um, the first year it's going to cost us 28,592 and that would come from the uh post priority projects that I have for the park treasures department. And then in the future, then it would just replace what I'm currently paying. you would save about not the first year but future years about 20,000 or 25,000 a year and this al this company also will move the fees for people using debit and credit cards to the customer instead of to the town and that could save us approximately around $70,000. So, uh, we reached out to, uh, Brownsburg and North Manchester to ask them because they use it and they've had nothing but good things to say to us about any discussion.

19:51 – 21:13Speaker 1

Um, I had a discussion with Mr. Dob earlier today and he wanted to at least trigger a discussion on the convenience fee and whether the town should absorb that or pass it through. Uh, I understand his perspective. I I just agreed with him that I would raise it for discussion. I will point out though that I had a discussion with Miss Loftton earlier this week on it. And she just had a a quick report pull that runs from May 22nd of 2025 through December 11 of 2025. So about 6 and 12 months. And the dollar amount for that period of time was $60,749. So for roughly a maybe roughly half a year, a little more. So you said 70,000 if this is representative, we might be a h 100,000 or more. Uh I do think we need to have a discussion on does the town continue to absorb those or do we pass them through? uh it is becoming much more common that that those fees are passed through and I think a lot of governmental entities do but I I did want to raise it for discussion uh to accommodate Mr. option requested or at least we we think about that piece of it.

21:10 – 21:42Speaker 1

So we could we could get the approval to move forward with changing to the software and then we could discuss the the fees at another you know at a later time because it's about a 120day process from your approval of this software and then getting it up and going. So we have time to work on that part. I just feel like um it's a convenience for someone to use their debit or credit card and if they want that convenience then they should be willing to pay that fee.

21:39 – 22:08Speaker 1

Um good question. Uh when I was talking with you the other day, you indicated that occasionally there are people that'll use the same card multiple times and every time they try it, we get another charge. Is there any way to isolate that so we can maybe adopt a policy of saying if someone maybe we eat the first time but if they continue to repeat if they're repeat offenders that that gets passed through. Is there any way to isolate that?

22:06 – 22:48Speaker 1

We don't know that they use or try a card more than once until we get charged and get the monthly bill that's being deducted out of our bank account and then we can do a detailed report at that time. Um, unless they call in and tell us they've used their card and it didn't work and they've had issues, we don't know that they're using it more than once and having issues. Uh, I I like the suggestion of approving move forward, but maybe wait a future meeting when Mr. Dav is here till we can have the the full discussion on the convenience fee aspect of it. Yeah. Um, will this software allow us to do e bills? Yes. Yes. and

22:47 – 23:25Speaker 1

it's probably going to save us more money. I'm just trying to be conservative about what I'm telling you that it might save us because I don't want to say something in the way. I use my credit card because I don't get charged fees. So, I think I would use a debit card or bring in a check or something and it's a very reasonable thing to do. If you want to use your credit card, you need to pay the fee. We shouldn't take the hit on that. Every other place you use a credit card at this point. So, Obviously, we're not going to decide that tonight. Two cents. You You can make a motion any way you want. No.

23:26 – 23:57Speaker 1

I will move to approve the request to spend funds for the utility bill. Second point of discussion. So that to approve it as presented. As presented. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries 40. Thank you. Uh, next up is utility billing collection policy, Miss Law.

23:54 – 24:42Speaker 1

Yes, this was uh I believe originally presented um in 2009 and then it was updated in 2017. I I've just updated some just wording and then the two main points that I wanted to present was it was suggested that we should not single out the tenants or renters what whatever you want to call them for paying a deposit that we should give that to all that all customers should make a deposit. So, I've added that. And then we um current it currently is that you get two we get two pieces of ID and I'm changing that to one because I found out we've only been getting one the last few years. So, I wanted to update that to be accurate.

24:40 – 25:05Speaker 1

What do we do with that deposit? We hold it. We hold it and then usually like when they have their final bill, we'll just deduct that off the final bill and give them the remaining back. Is that going to work for the entire town? Is that what you're proposing here? is that everyone that signs up for utilities. Yeah. So, when they sell it or something, the next person comes in, they'll realize, all right, we'll give that 100 bucks back to that person

25:03 – 25:47Speaker 1

because we're finding out when people leave, they're not paying that final bill. Then we're having to send them to collections. So, this would be kind of Any other questions, discussion? Motion. I'll make a motion for approval of the update utility billing and collection policy. Motion by Mr. Chad. Second. Second, Mr. Gerald. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries 40. Thank you. Duke Henry request for Eastman. Mr. Loftton.

25:44 – 27:42Speaker 1

Hello council members. What you have in front of you is a request for an ement. um it spans 15 ft until it won't be centered over their new line that's in the ground. There's a lot of outages on Washington Street due to the number of trees. Um so they're trying to relocate this underground. It runs from Orchard Lane to uh Woodfield on Washington and First and then it'll enter into the subdivision. Um we have had discussions with them. We've had a couple meetings. We actually had a pre-construction meeting um to let them know that there's a drainage project that's going to be in front of the Bllandon house and we informed them where they needed to be so there wasn't a conflict with our utilities. There is a force vein that's in that area. Uh they will spot that because we can't locate it because there was no tracer wire put in with that force vein. So we'll make sure we protect our assets while they're installing it. We also told them that if there's a partial road closure, full road closure, we need to be out we need to be notified two weeks in advance. Um so that we can get that out to the public saf it's um we still have access to these. This is basically just a right of entry for them to maintain their line. Um, it doesn't it is not a prescriptive for Duke Energy. It's a general utility easement. It doesn't spell out drainage, but there's no rightway in this area. So, it's kind of an odd property lane goes to the center of the road. Technically, it's edge of pavement. Um, so there isn't any rightway for them to go into. So, they have to create easily. At some point, we will probably create right away there um for utilities and facilities for the town. But uh this is a much easier process. It doesn't give up any land. They just have the right of entry and

27:38 – 28:20Speaker 1

I just want to make sure that um on the two pictures. Yeah. Are they asking for an an easement on the entire parcel a blank for the entire thing or is they just asking for that sliver that they actually need? Whatever the ladder looks like for Are you on exhibit A, A, and B? So it will be the entire line of that service line. But agreed, but I think they're requesting the easement for that entire park. It doesn't narrow it to that center line.

28:17 – 28:53Speaker 1

Well, I think I think it says there center line of a 15t wide easement. So that clarifies the width of the easement. I know they're not intending to do the entire parcel, but I think the language in there is the easement will be 15t total width. It will be centered over that line. So that they're only asking for that amount of ease. Are we sure? It does or Mr. Derby does say that they have a right of ingress egress over the entire property which

28:49 – 29:28Speaker 1

which may not be um used if it's that close to the roadway but it's that that section is fairly broad in in paragraph one. So blankments like this I mean we they're saying they we'll just do this now but five years down the road they don't have to ask anymore and they can just come on there. Yeah. I can get clarification you know I would also say that they have access to that easement for the entire length of that property, but I don't think they're including the entire property e. But I can get that language cleared up. I would like to get it narrowed to just the area that they're going to 15 foot. Yeah.

29:26 – 30:05Speaker 1

One of the reasons that one of the reasons with that, the reason that's not written that way is because they have to follow where our sewer line is and stay away from it. So they couldn't dedicate an area and center that power line within that 15 ement until they are completed to get it in. So one of the reasons they do that is they they will actually give us an asuilt that shows that 15 foot centered over the power line. So that might be one of the reasons why that's written that way, but we can get some clarification so that it shows something that it's only 15 ft on that property, not the entire property.

30:02 – 30:47Speaker 1

Yeah, that would be perfect. Thank you. We'll get that motion. Are we not comfortable with it yet simply because it the entire blanket property and not I'll get that cleared up and we'll come back to the next meeting. Thank you very Okay. Thank you. They don't get it tomorrow. They're want to move quickly, but they know that this a process. I told them there's a process and they're not good to go until we get approval. It's just the way it is.

30:45Speaker 1

Thank you. All right. Thank you. You're still up, Mr. Lton. County home legislation.

30:51 – 32:27Speaker 1

So, this this was started quite some time ago. It kind of jumped around um trying to meet the needs of development, trying to move things around. Uh the cost of this has increased, the scope has in increased. If you look at the maps, you'll see a couple of areas that are outside the actual station that will need some upgrades. There's some bottlenecks in those areas. So, we went back, Kent with Banning Engineering went back and kind of clarified some of this up and this clears up the scope of this project. Um, and this will probably be the first project that we attempt to get through on the B because this is the mo most important piece at this time that the town can afford to do. There is funding for this, there's funding for design. Um, maybe not funding for the project, but we'll address that at a later time. But this gets us past uh the design, any land acquisition, anything like that. Just for a point of clarification, this does not include inspection or any um geotech. I I went through that and there are multiple sections of it. Some are based on price per parcel or rate per hour. Uh but just plugging some numbers in, uh this uh this proposal by itself is somewhere in the neighborhood of $700,000.

32:26 – 32:41Speaker 1

Yeah. Um what the what's a rough guess of what the end result total cost would be implemented for the entire project? Yes,

32:39 – 33:27Speaker 1

we don't have an overall cost yet. But what I will tell you is we will know those cost and this is just a way for us if there's some things in here that we don't need them to do, we won't do that. So Banny's always been good about trying to keep those costs down. Uh the reason I bring that up is because this kind of get lends us to we go into the bot. Um we get the design done then we know real cost of the project and usually you're looking at 5 to 7% of the project cost for engineering permitting and observation. So you really don't have a number um based off of because we don't have a real number for the project itself. Um, that's typically the amount is 5 to 70%.

33:24 – 34:06Speaker 1

So, you're talking 105 million bucks. Well, I don't think it's that high. Um, we got a number before, but it was like $4 million and the prices exceed and the scope of this has has grown. So, the first one we didn't have the two uh repairs on 36 included in this scope. Uh but it makes no sense to make station larger and then have a bottleneck upstream especially on the commercial area that we were looking to. How is this able to be done outside of the BT? So this this is the thing what part of Yeah. What are they doing here compared to what they're doing in the next phase?

34:02 – 35:08Speaker 1

Yeah. So this was already started um years ago. So they've already been working on this project. I brought them back because we want to clean up the scope because it's changed. Um, but this can be done through outside of the BOT. For one, this has already started, but two, the way the B is written, as long as they submit to the developers, they can be hired outside of the developers umbrella. So, in other words, anybody that responds and says, "This is the work we do in that B." Then the town of Downville can hire them separately outside the B's umbrella. So that's one of the reasons we wanted to do that is because some of our projects are partially designed. We already have money invested in that. So to to get that into a BT developer and then choose somebody else, we'd be paying more than we needed to. So I hope hope that answers your question. We've already engaged in the design previously. This is just an update to it. And then this new design will go to the B to go out for scoping.

35:06 – 35:27Speaker 1

You already paid for the original design or is this addition to the they're they're at 30 basically 30% design. That's what we've paid to paid for up to this point. This is the remaining was the additional work being done. This has been going on since 2012.

35:23 – 37:21Speaker 1

You have help coming Barry Ken Engineering. Just want to clarify a few things. So we we started on the master plan project in 2018. This is one of four priority projects that we've uh identified. We've done two, the north interceptor, the south interceptor. The park bridge we have put off. It's less of the the four priorities. This one has became a priority. We knew it was. Uh we've actually had a failure at the lift station. We've had to re-plump some piping and bandaided that together. We're updating the master plan which all that affects the county homeless station sizing because they essentially takes half of the flow at least of the town. Um, another part of the is actually two priority projects in one because we've added the 36 interceptor from 200 East that we we went along 200 east with an interceptor last year. Um, this this actually takes the flow down to the county home station that was identified in the 2018 match plan as well. So all development out out east has triggered that that interceptor on 36 you see there's a couple aerial pipes across the ditches that's that's the line that that needs to be assigned to there. So that that scope has been added. Uh the force man has also been uh added as well from the county lift station to the front uh headworks of the wastewater treatment plant. So it crosses the creek and it goes around behind Kroger's. uh that was added as well, but just with the demand of the the um housing that we have on on the east side of town. So those two two parts were never in the original contract for preliminary design. We were we were contracted to do preliminary design for just the county lift station itself. Um the scope of the county lift station, it's grown and then we added the force bane pieces and then we added a interceptor sewer to the project as well. So we're kind of combining the

37:19 – 38:04Speaker 1

three projects into one. So, we've done about 25% uh design on the county home lift station itself, but nothing else anywhere else. We haven't done any survey or any of that. So, that's that's what you see there. Right now, we're ballparking that project for everything's about 10 to 12 million is kind of what we're estimating at this point for the construction project for the construction. Yes. Uh and in this proposal, there are a couple sections regarding easement. So the the uh line that we're replacing uh the interceptor and the force main, they're just replacing existing ones, are they not? Yes. So why do we need new easements?

38:02 – 38:16Speaker 1

So what we've found going through the north and south, we may have easements, but the sewer lines may not be in the easements. Uh sometimes we don't have easements and we have sewer lines in the ground. So we'll do research to make sure

38:15 – 39:00Speaker 1

clean up there. And then also we're rerouting. Actually, there's there's four projects on this. We're rerouting up by the jail where all the improvements in the roundabout by the jail. Uh trying to get that the county own lines where it relieves one of the lines for bypass during construction, but two, it cleans up some of those old old lines that are uh that brick line manholes and and clay tile lines. So, we're we're trueing some of that up and getting it where all that area is usable space instead of just running out of fields. We're lining it up with roadways. So that that's another part which we don't have thesements. We've been working with the county to try to figure out what that looks like because I know there's another project as far as roadways.

38:58 – 40:41Speaker 1

So there's like a lot of different things going on. One of those things is is the county's wanting the town to take over East Campus Boulevard. At least they were. So while we were discussing this, part of that negotiation was you give us an easement, we'll do the engineering to get that easement to line up with public rideway and clean up all these lines so that they are in their public rightway. So all of this went into that and that's part of what they've been working on. This this really cleans it up to say, okay, this is the project. It's spelled out. We know what our costs are going to be and right now that's what we're trying to do is build our cost. So we have real dollars. So then we can come back and say this is what we need. Are we going to be able to afford to do it? But regardless, we always want to do engineering, land acquisition, and shovel ready projects because then we can get grants. There's going to be less and less of those. Uh so don't get your hopes up. But if we have these projects ready, then we can go at a moment's notice if we get, you know, additional funding, whether it's um SRF, whether it's some grants that that are out there available we might qualify for. So this is basically that finishing piece to get Shell. And there's a lot there's I mean, we've talked about several different things here, and they really are there's several projects that are going to be combined into this one project. So we have clarity on what we need to do. And really uh this also is really trying to prepare ourselves for any kind of commercial on the north side of 36.

40:38 – 40:49Speaker 1

So that's going to be my next question. So why aren't they develop?

40:45 – 41:34Speaker 1

Well, I mean for one we upsize the the u the lift station. We need to have the capacity now. There's already homes that have been approved for. And I'm not saying that we don't have capacity. I'm just saying those lines have always been identified as problems. Before development was going to be here, we would eventually have to repair those. They're not in a good place. You have pipe sizes ranging, you know, from this size and they go down in size and they go back up in size. So all of this was identified in the master plan, but now it's all in one one project. Okay. My other question had to do with the the county own there and the jail. Does any of their the county's usage is that affecting this?

41:31 – 43:23Speaker 1

No, actually it's gotten better since they put the new jail in because they have ways to capture things and obviously it's more efficient. But um what what we were talking about is easements of lines that are already there. and a relocation of those lines to line up above a rideway to make that land more usable. Uh because if we get these things lined up with property lines and where we think future roads may go, then that development is a lot easier to do. And we we need to do this regardless of whether there's development there or not. Um because what can happen is a developer comes in and says, "Okay, we want to develop this and we don't have the lift station availability." They say, "Well, we're paying more from here to here, but then we've got an issue. Now we got to jump through the series and try to keep up with the developer." So, I think I think for now, this is really our problem, but we're also going to obviously fix some things that are in the current station that need to be repaired. Tony's had problems with some of the pumps and like kids said, the plumbing. Um those other two pieces were in part as part of the master plan that they're really far and those are outside the border as they can be developed. The land is there where those two are and the county property. Um you're not going to get a tax paying customer in there to do that. Long long story short is we're kind of in negotiations with the county to do some trading of this stuff and this was part of that. but they've gone through three different facility people. So, we we kind of have to keep starting over with a new person and we recently had to do that again in the last month because they change personnel and then we start over. We get that working relationship. We all get on the same page with somebody who comes in maybe have a different idea of what what needs to happen and they're not familiar with data.

43:21 – 44:06Speaker 1

We need to get that deal in writing. We do. We do and eventually that's coming but this here was the beginning stage that to clean that up so that we have right away for the public sidewalks. We have for utilities all that's part of it and we can get you some more detail about the actual where it's at. But that's really why this has kind of grown and kind of changed is because some things happened to change. writing might help with the transition to the next person to the next person next. Here's the deal we already made. The problem is we never get to that point.

44:04 – 44:19Speaker 1

We we work towards it. We just I hate going ahead with this thinking this is part of our deal. We'll pay for this as long as you guys are doing this and then they don't do that.

44:16 – 45:34Speaker 1

So is there a way to avoid that? We can definitely speak to that, but I think some of the stuff that we're talking about here is what's in the ground is old. So now we're talking about INI that we need to clean up because that ini if we clean that up, we can't capacity that that that really kicks this down to if we can tighten up that ini now we don't have to spend $30 million on plant in 2027 or 2028 or 2029. You can kick that down to 2045. That's the whole idea that is kind of part of this is we have some other infrastructure there that needs to be cleaned up. I mean and you know as we move forward specifically with this project those conversations will be had with the county and their representatives to try to work together to to get a game that works for everyone. It's it's no secret we've been trying to talk to them about the highway garage because that could be useful for the town in many different ways but we keep having to talk to different people and um we're working on that internally moving that up the chain to try to get some clarity on what they need and what we're looking for.

45:31 – 46:07Speaker 1

Thank you. motion as all the questions. Uh motion to approve task order number one for the second motion by Mr. Irby, second by Mr. Chadam. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries 4. Thank you. And in the police discussion, Miss Lman.

46:04 – 46:44Speaker 1

Yes. Um, I am needing to complete a lease contract, a lease credit application for the purchase of an ambulance for the fire territory. And I was wanting to get consensus to move forward with that with at the next meeting bringing a resolution resolution for the signatures. We just dealt with this in prior territory meeting and my understanding was that territory is paying for it all. We just aren't allowed to finance things. So, it's got to go through the town. Is that accurate? I think so.

46:42 – 47:27Speaker 1

Anything else? This does not require a vote, just a consensus. All right, good. Move forward. Uh, account closure and funds transfer. often. We have a um wastewater treatment plant construction fund that we've had for several years, probably back in maybe 2014, that we haven't used for a number of years. And so every so often it'll go dormant. So to prevent it from going, we have to put money in it, then we transfer it back out. So we are asking to close this bank account and move it into the wastewater fund. And it's a balance of 5,859.82. 82.

47:28 – 47:49Speaker 1

I'll move to move forward the account closure and funds transfer. Second motion by Mr. Irby, second by Mr. Gerald. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries 40. Thank you. We are down to staff and council comments. Mr. Morgan.

47:45 – 48:18Speaker 1

St. Couple things. Um, I placed a letter at your chairs. It's a letter to support the downtown partnership uh and our application for a grant. Uh I didn't put on the agenda because I'm just seeking some consensus to go ahead and give this to her tomorrow. Uh she has a deadline on it. Like I said, it's just showing that we we're committed to uh supporting what they're doing as far as applying for a grant. So seeking consensus on that if that's okay.

48:14 – 48:55Speaker 1

Good. Thank you. Um, second, and probably just as important, if not more, uh, I'd like to thank Ally for coming in and helping us tonight. Um, I was in a real pickle, and quite honestly, uh, she saved my bacon, so I do appreciate it. So, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Uh, want to let you know on June the 2nd will be the town picnic uh, down at Ellis Park. I've already reserved the shelter house, so um should be good to go. So, put that in your calendar, please. Um June 2nd, is that?

48:51 – 50:39Speaker 1

Yeah, June 2nd. And then, um real quick, I'm just going to touch base because I want to get you all out of here. Um you've all received my correspondence uh that we are going to be working with INDOT on uh getting a right in, right out um out on the East Edgetown. And so I'm in the process of preparing that letter. Uh I want to make sure it's correctly worded before I send it to them and make sure I've covered all my bases because I want it to be the same value to them as it is to us. And have a meeting tomorrow with uh Horton and um uh some private developers about the Warrior Way. And so I think we've come to an agreement on uh what we want to propose to end on that as well. I think I've said that to all of you. So, uh, last of all, um, and unfortunately Nathan left, but Nathan's probably going to turn into our local dog catcher. Um, we're, uh, we're working with the sheriff's office. Um, as you might know, that first of the year, they picked up the animal control division and they've, uh, they're seeking help from the municipalities. and uh talking with Chief Hilton and talking with Nathan, we think this is a falls under code enforcement, uh he will not be picking up any vicious dogs. No, nothing like that. Again, it's just the the friendly stuff that he has to go to and barking dog complaints and things like that. So, we thought that would be okay. Uh I'll be meeting with um Jason Wright, who took over animal control. uh meet with him next month, next week, and we'll try and get some equipment just to help him out to do the job. Entertain any questions.

50:39 – 51:23Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Young. Is there anything from a legal perspective? Yes, sir. Thank you, M. Loftton, Mr. Gerald. Mr. Herby, just want to thank all employees for everything they do, especially behind the scene and every day. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. My only comment is congrats to Mr. Morgan and progress with INDOT. It looks like on progress on both the east and west side. So, keep that ball rolling. Sounds good. Glad to glad to hear it. Claim docket. Move to approve the claim docket. 847,32386.

51:24 – 51:59Speaker 1

Second by Mr. Irby. Second by Mr. Chadam. All in favor? I. All oppose. Motion carries. 4 Z. Favoral docket. Move to approve docket. Motion by Mr. Irby. Second. Second by Mr. Chadam. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. 4 Z. Motion to adjurnn. Motion by Mr. Gerald. Second. Second by Mr. Irby. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion cars 4. Thank you. Sorry for

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