Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Monday, June 2, 2025
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Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Cortland, NY
Meeting Date
June 2, 2025

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25 sections

0:04 – 2:030

1-3 comma 5 Avenue background What plan is it? We'll flash it around every once in a while so other people know what's going on, too. We do have ability on anything. Um, what we're here to today for is to uh propose a uh subdivision of two existing lots. Um, those of you that have been in Quinland for any length of time probably knew when it was the Commando restaurant in the parking lot across from it next to it. Well, the commandment no longer exists in this restaurant form anyways and uh so Mr. Fragnola came to me uh after talking also with the mayor had a mutual desire to develop lower and middle income properties uh to get people into houses and uh this was one of the projects that Mr. Fragnoli thought was a prospect to do so. So our idea here first and foremost this the blue is the uh commando restaurant property and next to it was a small parking lot. They were one lot and you can see there was now supposed to be divided by two now on the color image here but those are the 10ft buffer areas that are consolidated since still is

2:00 – 3:570

listed as a commercial building. Therefore, between residential and commercial activities, there needs to be a 10-ft buffer. We're merely trying to crack the wrongs of before because in number five that Mr. Craig Milli also owns um the property line was right up against pretty much the end of the building. So, we are planning to skim off 10 ft of the number five property, make that part of the um property for comm formal commandos. And we're doing the same between the proposed residential lot and commando's small parking area. Um we need at least three parking slots because there are currently tenants in in the house part of commandos behind the one-story restaurant. So that's the first subdivision that we're talking about and and lot of guests. The second one is the single lot here right now that was listed as number eight in Mando. Uh it is a fairly large lot. We are proposing to basically almost subdivide that into equal lots area wise with two similar type houses on it. Now you'll see that there's each one of them are a little bit different and I'll be glad to give you also a uh copy of just a concept we're in of uh what we're thinking about and the idea that Mr. private only wants to build these so that they can be sold to clients and so it is I say it's a modular design I'm not anticipating that this is a a bad design the idea of the modularity

3:54 – 5:520

it's the fact that you can see with this as well it look like three different size houses but what it really is is the basic house is approximately 900 square ft on each floor and that a breezeway and or a garage can be added based upon space and the client's ability to buy the house. And if the main house is put up without any garage at all, then it'll be the owner's option and responsibility in the future once they buy the parcels or put on the breezeway and or the garage. So, those are three different ways that Mushroom Techno is going to be able to sort of skew the price of a potential buyer. Um, the house itself, as I say, is a very simple, straightforward twotory, 900 ft house with probably just two bedrooms and a bath on the second floor. Um, it has a contemporary flare to it a little bit. That's what architects do. But uh you can see the area right here with a large window on the top is actually a one story uh room that goes up to the second floor and then there's uh bedrooms on each corner and then there's a bathroom in the hood. So that is the proposal we have and as you can see here that because of the nature of this lot we wanted to also push it back far enough. This triangle line here is the setback revisions uh area that is required on any tight turn like this in a residential area. So we wanted to make sure that we accommodated that requirement and the seal bill was been pushed back this way. So it's a little further back than the others. Now, the part of these houses that makes a little difference is the fact that the current zoning um stays basically a 25 foot setback

5:50 – 7:480

on the inside of the sidewalk area, which will make a lot of these almost unbelievable. It also implies though that if you have a an older residential area like this that the existing primary elevation or the primary setback of the existing houses and determine what the setback means if you so that that any new construction is consistent with the structures that were built before it. Now there's a lot of them that are actually only about six feet back in the sidewalk. That's not our intention to do so. So 10 next step back the set back on one property to the right. Right. And so we're going to push that back. Now this one shows basically we're abiding by the 10 foot setback. It was already established by this house. This one is actually I don't include any porches or sidewalks on the or stairs in the front. I try to look at the main u elevation and facet of the house that was there. So basically talking about real construction. It's not intent here to build any further back than about 14 15 ft from the site. Now, one of the key things that just see here is that the current sidewalk sort of uh pushes out right here and does a curve around the uh the corner. But maybe on this one. Yes. See if my proposal is to straighten that sidewalk back out. Yes. straighten that

7:45 – 9:430

sidewalk back out and also make it a wider bend around here so that the parking area just for commando can go on that on that corner and it's a maximum 30 mile probably should be lower that there's street limits but I don't see that as a problem because it's an outside corner everybody could see the cars coming uh let's see Um all the other buildings along here have a sideline setback minimum seven 7 ft or greater than that and um Mr. Fragnoli is also talking about some relief for the lady in in this house that even negotiate a little bit additional land that we don't need for the house so that she's happy. Well, she been after a piece of that L in. And so I said, you know, I said, can you do the measurements and tell me where we are as far as footage for development? It's going to and and we got about two extra feet, but I mean, she's not here today, but I mean, it's a matter of life or death for her. Two feet over, you know, Yeah. She will probably be either a hedro or a fence connect there. Well, we had a survey and this we found it over to her way she thought it was a property which has to be done. If you take the couple seat it's taxable property you have to have your attorney you know just lose profit. somebody bought one of these houses comes in and does their own survey,

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they're gonna find out that her fence is on that property and then there's going to be a, you know, I mean, yeah, so that explains that I guess, right? I mean, well, there's been a ton of discussion and her intent is also to provide essential parking there for tenants. Um, so it is likely as history will stone that it's either it'll be a head drill or an actual solid fence between the new property and hers so that they aren't just cars out of the sight. Mr. Chairman, can I guess so just a note for the public uh what they're showing you uh that material is available online as part of the application, but it might be helpful to let the uh folks here see those and if they have a question for the public hearing portion just so that they've got the benefit of sharing those. Yeah, why don't we uh give that a chance to look would it be okay then turn this around open up any question we may have okay well I do see some of the familiar faces here smiling this this time that's good you just heard sort of the steel on this about trying to create free lots for lower and middle income people to buy their own homes this is not intended to be any kind of a lease arrangement you know, who's going to become a landlord here. Now, um, he's trying to be a good neighbor. One of the other aspects of this that we've already been in some discussion with officer Ever is that u we are looking to also clean up and improve the look of the front of a command restroom. Yeah.

11:37 – 13:370

So that I'd like to turn back more into a neighborhood as opposed to you know commercial property in this sort of still place now. Are you saying you can build property on empty lot or on the right side also? So is he going to build both on both side? He's going to build one right on the corner where the wood is. That doesn't anything on the left hand. Could we could we hear the concerns? Yeah. Well, you know what? Let's uh we'll open this up formally for public hearing just so that everybody can hear. You might come up and ask if I'm going to speak. It's okay. I live on and the corner is a sharp corn. Yeah, we need to we need to initiate a public hearing. So, why don't we initiate the public hearing and then people come up one at a time and ask questions because we really can't hear what you're asking. Okay? And we're the ones that have to make the decision. So, um let's start the public hearing. If someone would like to come up and ask a question, come on up to the podium. Okay? You might want to uh tell Mr. if you what your name is so we can include it in the records. Diana, where do you live? 82 by one street 82 on the corner right in the middle towards the command next to Maybe they're ready for you to re ask the question since they couldn't get it.

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Yeah, we just didn't hear it. That's why I'd like to just Oh, no. I've never done this. So, that's all right. Well, okay. Um I guess my concern is I wasn't sure where he was building the houses. So if he's if you're going up Bartlet, he's doing it on the right hand side in that empty spot. You go up a line, you get to the corner, the rest of them, one on the right, two on the left. Big lot is on the right. Two on the empty lot right there. Yes. And one on the empty lot on the right. Is there any room on the left for two? Yes. I couldn't see. They'll send me back there. And we have what they call the building requires that we also offer a what they call a clear view area that forces nothing. We can't put any shrubs or anything back there so the people can see all the Well, that's what Yeah, because the former is a little sharp former and they run out. That that's that's very dangerous. I mean, there's a lot of kids through on that street and I just I don't know. But we are going to cross the street. Yeah. Yeah, I know. And I mean, I have a granddaughter in um I the the way the caring down that street. Well, they were just talking about other down that street. kidding me? No, it should be like 15, right? I don't know how to do any of this kind of stuff. That's why I'm like So, so, so your concern is regarding this property now that I don't think there needs to be more people in this area. Vince has people down there. He's got people behind commandos that really shouldn't even be there. That needs to get cleaned

15:28 – 17:250

up. That's not my property where all those people are living on that railroad from commando building. That's all railroad. I think I think here already addressed that there may down there. They walked out back. Got rid of them. I don't know. That's all about any of them. I need to take a little bit more. I need time to do some research. and to get some signatures. Yeah, you do that. That's a reasonable concern to be brought to the city and also maybe asking the highway department if there's a way to get to the speed. That would be those are really like my concerns and I'm not just I need to if we can direct your questions to to us too. So are you uh are you concerned about unhoused folks in the area? what you're talking Well, that's that's one of them because I was like, you know, maybe they should be cleaning up behind where all those people are because it's very scary. Um, they called the brought me back and said, "Okay, I really didn't get involved because when I have to block my alt up, it's scary. I don't know what's going on behind you in that lot behind I know behind I don't see anybody out there but they walk up and down the street all the time and never I mean it's very scary and I'm just thinking there you know there's more people than violence those kind of people well no and I understand that that's why I was that's why I wanted to come and find out because I don't I mean every now and

17:23 – 19:220

then I see you driving Glad you did. Railroad does. Um, excuse us. Whatever the question. Well, I just we need to do the work of this committee here. So, there's a private conversation going on. I don't mean that. I guess I don't, you know, so I have a question. I have I'm curious if the house in the one lot on the right is there any kind of fencing or security behind there goes up is there a proposed I know there's a railroad track back there is there going to be anything kind of a separation a fence or something a buffer it could be a landscape buffer or it could be a fence ultimately um is that going to be on the property owner or is it on I own the property where you sell you're still you're going to sell the I'm going to sell the one and I own the white one that's right next to it 96 six part. So there have a bumper fence along the railroad and up that side. I'm sure you do you occupy 96? No. Looks like there's some trees or something looking at the buffer currently. Yes. And there is that sort of shrub trees though. It's scrub trees I should say. It's not anything that would create a long-term buffer. It's a visual buffer right now until fall comes and all the leaves drop. sort of intend to uh like everybody's but not in the you intend to build a fence kind of a privacy fence 10footer running from that corner of 96 down

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where the entrance is that go down to the railroad sidewalk go straight up to the railroad. Got it. Okay. Can you hear about any other specific questions? Um, I really right now I can't think of any, but if I have another opportunity, um, I will definitely get another. Uh, be sure that if you write your name and address down so that any future meetings we can make sure we get to, okay, email to not technically little channel. Okay. Would anyone else like to come up and ask questions? If not, sign in. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I sign my address. And and my name is Patricia Goods. I live on Stefan Street, which is in front of Commando, where we don't even have sidewalks. We have no sidewalks on either side of the street. Um, and my property butts up against um the rear the rear the rear part of my property. And um and this might be for another meeting, but I heard you say that the mayor had said something about doing stuff something in our ward and I had talked to our alder person uh last week when I found out about this meeting because I didn't know about the first one. I didn't get a letter. Um and he said that the mayor was going to do a walk through in our ward because ours is the only one that hasn't been done because I answer all the person why why

21:16 – 23:150

is but anything been done to improve our neighborhood um like the rest of the city we're like forgotten because personally our older person doesn't come visit us but that's another whole bin. My concern or question is if they're going to beautify it, wouldn't the city, you know how like when you build the highways like you go down through Binghamington and you see all those buffers along the highway, is there a way they could put a buffer for that part of the railroad that goes up behind? because it's more than just your house and her house that goes up that that's really right along the tracks because I don't know if you've ever been down there when the train's going through. I mean, my house rattles. My my chandeliers rattle and whatever and it's noisy. They bang cars in the middle of the night, which I don't think they're supposed to do, but they do it. And there's a lot of screeching of brakes and stuff. And I used to know the city would think about putting a buffer, one of those type of walls they put up along the highway to maybe help not only dead end the sound, but kind of beautify the area a little bit if they're going to work on improving the area because I I'm I understand wanting to put a house there, but I'm afraid nobody would buy it because it's so close to the tracks and it is so loud with with the the noise of the trains and it's and it's 24/7. There's no there's no brain. So, um that that's just something I would like you guys to consider. I'm not aware of the homeless problem that you know that these people are seeing. I do see a lot of people walking down the streets with shopping carts and stuff and I don't know where

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they're going because they go so I can see it from my windows. So, but if there is a problem back there, it would be nice if we could get that cleaned up. I know we had a problem on Bartlett, the couple houses there, the Larry Baker Road. Oh, yeah. That they took care of that there. So, maybe it's something the city needs to get get back into there and get it taken care of. Is is that something we have control of or that would be more of a common council? this kind of I mean we're only addressing you know so I mean I understand your concern planning but could we think about getting the buffalo wall there that would be a common council that would be also a common okay thank you um if I might as far as the as as as as as far as the ward walks are concerned they're only on ward five right now okay and that that's not going to happen till till next week So, okay. They still got to go through six, seven, and you're in eight. I'm in eight. Michael said it was going to be the first week in July. I think they might be a little bit behind, too. Well, that's good because I will be there the first week, right? Just I mean, I'm not saying they are. I'm just saying they're only on Well, they're next week is five. So, okay. I know they're on their way and they're getting a I mean, it's they're getting a lot done. So, they Oh, I'm happy with your thinking. Oh. Well, I think the u the homeless situation is common to many cities, but I think the people you see coming down there with shopping carts, that may be one of the new Uber programs, the new one, the new Uber programs.

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So, any more questions actually? I know the code officer uh Roy has grilled us pretty good over the last few meetings and so we've tried to get all our ducks in a row but uh we do appreciate commentary. I'm surprised you didn't have anything been there twice and at least you're smiling when you're sitting there now. Any other questions from the audience? other questions or concerns or this funation council. Yeah, just quickly um you know the city's thrilled that Mr. Fragnoli is doing this project. Um we're a pro housing community. We're in favor of increasing the housing stock. It's something that's desperately needed. However, one of the considerations the committee has to undertake is what's this going to do to the neighborhood? What's the overall effect of it? And right now, Mr. Fragnoli is non-compliant on a lot of issues with the city. Um he's at a point where we could classify him as a habitual offender. We don't want to do that. We want to work with him to get things up to date. He has at least 12 rental properties in the city. His compliance rate on permitting is less than 20%. Um in light of that, I would recommend the committee table this for a month. his rental permit applications, which is one of the things he has out. He could have those resolved by the end of the week. It's simply coming in, filling out a paper, paying the fee, and moving on. There may be some code things that are open. I don't have anything in front of me yet, but I know there's a number of things that are getting ready to go to court on some of his properties. Those need to be cleaned up in my opinion before he takes a step into a new venture. We want him to do this venture. We want him to move forward with it. It's it's a good project. I'm not saying it's not But I feel as as corporation council, one of my jobs is to prosecute code

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enforcement infractions and to allow somebody to launch a new project when they have a lot of things on the fire just would be remiss in my opinion. Sure. Mr. Fragnelly, how do you feel about that? No, I was just telling my girl that does my all my secretary work. I just told her this morning I got a mail from code. Can you stand up? I can't really hear it. I just got a panther in the mail from code and a bunch of rental permitted interviews. Just I was just telling her this morning, you got to go to code this week and file all these submit checks renewals. That's what that's what they were. Does she write your checks for you? I I'll submit checks. Oh, you'll take care. Okay. Well, why don't you take care of that now and then next month if we decide to label this, everything will be taken care of. Yeah. Yeah. That Yeah. at the end of the week. I said, "Okay, let's let's do that. You take care you take care of your your problems that you're having on your other properties, then come back to us next month. We'll we'll take a look at this." Yeah, that's right. Is that all right? Yes. Okay. All right. I'm going to make a motion to table this till next month. Does anybody want to second that? I think there's one more public comment. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I thought we had just put your name on there so Mr. Jul can't have a record. My name is, pardon my voice for the allergies. My name is Marica Damasi and I own the property at 35 Hyatt Street. Okay. There's very few of us Italians that are left, just two or three. But I have great pride in my home. I travel a lot, but I make sure it's maintained. Now, this is nothing against Vince personally. I've known him since he was little, and I've seen our neighborhood go down many times. I've seen um Vince outside when he had the restaurant. I'd say who owns that house next door to the restaurant and he'd say, "I do. I'm trying to get it cleaned up and I'm sorry, Viz, but I've never seen anything happen." Now, I

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know these are going to be sold if it goes ahead. It's not going to be rental. And I'm all for helping homeless people or low income, but our neighborhood was that. You know, my grandfather worked at Wigwire when he came to my grandmother was depressing Corset. They built this house in 1926 and then the you know it just went downhill with the with you know things but they pulled their bootstraps up. So I'm the third generation there. I'm leaving it to my son. He would be the fourth generation. But sometimes I thought if I'm not so emotionally attached to that house I would want to sell. I'm ashamed when people that come to visit me out of town have to go down bar. I'm ashamed. But I'm not against a new house being built. I just know that if we if it's sold to low income people, if are they going to start putting trash on their porch if there is a porch? Uh some people are using their porches as a storage area. It's an extension of their home. And I have a question for Co. Is it permissible to store lawnmowers on porches? I don't know if that's a question that can be answered now. Now we're using porches to store lawnmowers. You know, if they don't have a garage, they can put in the back of their house. I'm thinking of fire issues, but it again, I just don't mind new buildings. Um I'm just wondering if the neighborhood's going to go down more. And I don't know of any other property that Mr. drag owns. But if I go by what I see there and as far as the people in the back of the Commando restaurant, I see that a lot. And they're like abudding the side. So you don't know if they're living upstairs. Um but you always see the um grocery

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carts on the side if you go around the right time. And I don't know if they're living there, but you see that you do see that a lot. I don't know anything about the railroad in the back, but um I I have I can attest to to that. But it looks like they're living there. And I'm not saying they are because they're always right at that side door where the door used to go into the restaurant where the bar is and that's that's about it. Um but can I have an answer to that question about lawnmowers? Call my office in the morning and spend the time and place for Okay, I will. Yeah. I'm sorry to put you on the spot. I just didn't know if that was right. I had to answer your question, but you might have to call in the morning. I gave you my business card right when I was there. I got one here. You gave me the pamphlet. Thank you. Any other questions or concerns from the audience before we move forward? questions. Okay. I I honestly would like to table this um uh it's item one and two on our agenda till next once once we have a chance to you know get everything caught up. Uh can anyone would anyone like to second it? I'll second it. All right, Jim. Any other further discussion? All right. All those in favor of tableabling items one and two till next month till July say I. I. I. Anyone opposed? All right. So we'll look at that next month once we get things thought up. Okay. If there's anybody here who did not sign in, if you would be good enough to leave your name and mail address and email address so that we can do our best to inform you of any future meetings.

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All right. Our next item on the agenda is site plan review for Capco at 236 Main Street. They want to uh want approval for repair of an access ramp. Is anyone here to speak on their behalf? Uh Capco? No. No. It seemed pretty straightforward to me. It was just a movement of a Yeah. Yeah. So, they're just replacing that one the one ramp, right? The one ramp on in the front. I It's not going to be any bigger than the one. No, it's not it's not any bigger. I mean, they might have to change it a little bit to to meet the current code for like elevation and stuff like that. Yeah. For incline and Yeah. So, they might have to change a tad bit, but it won't be much. Is it currently a ramp in front? Yeah. You see one or no? I don't see. But they're they're changing the railings. They're changing the look of it. So, they're they're changing the facade of the building little bit, you know, not much, but tweaking it. Yeah. And they might they might have to to the the I hate to use the word elevations and I'm drawing a blank on the word, but they might have to to meet the current code for the ramp. They might have to change it. Yeah. Incline. Yeah. The incline has to meet. Absolutely. Yeah. I know. And they got to put a every certain feet with an incline, they have to have a landing. So they might and the hand round is going to be different. It's definitely be improved. Oh yeah, cuz the other one was deteriorating. Yeah, I think that was a little bit. All right. So you want to make a motion to approve agenda item number three, site plan review for the ramp or catco. I'll make that by Tony. Second. Sebastian.

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Yeah. Yeah. No further discussion. No further discussion. Okay. All those in favor of approving site plan review for KCO and their new ramp that will replace the old ramp at 236 M. All those in favor? Any opposed? All right. Motion carried. That's what's looking at the CCO building itself. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. The daycare. Yeah. Oh, so that should be two Excel, right? Yes. Okay. We might want to just correct that on the right. Oh, doesn't exist. Okay. didn't know that. It's all me. There's no self. Okay. All right. Still just these guys. All right. Um, agenda item number four. These guys have been approved in the past, but we just had to make sure that we potentially what you guys are so inclined to do. Uh, this is Keystone Novelties. They sell things for the Fourth of July. down seeking approval of special use permanent size plan for use of a portion of parking for outdoor sales as sparkling devices. Like I said, this is this has been going on for years. This is the PNC. You might want to talk into the speaker. I'm just letting you know. I'm sorry. My fault. Okay. Yeah. So, these guys have have been here in the past to get their site plan approved for is it's a temporary, you know, sales thing until the 4th of July and then they close up shop and move on. So, it's not not a permanent thing. You guys have been on the board. Jim Jim, you've been on the board. Oh, yeah. So, this is something

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that's pretty pretty straightforward. Um, and first of all, does anyone anyone have questions about this? Somebody want to make a motion to uh approve the agenda item number four then I'll make a movement. All right. Somebody want to second that. Second that. All right. Further discussion. I didn't see it. Is the case listed in here for how long they'll be there? Um but it's only allowed to be there till the Oh, there is 623 through the 7. I just That's all I have question. It's the same footprint that they do every year. Not going to move it or anything. Yeah. Okay. No, that was it. That's all I just question. That's good. Good question. All right. All those in favor of agenda item number four, say I. I. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion carried. Our fifth agenda item is uh from Paul Stewart at 2628 Elm Street. He seeks the site approval for construction of a parking area and relocation of the fence. Is Mr. Stewart here? He's not here. I'll I'll answer for him. All right. So, Mr. Stewart wants to add a parking area in the front yard on Greenbush Street. The property has although it's addressed at 26 through28 Elm Street, it does have two front yards by definition because it's on the corner of Elm and Greenbush. Okay. Um, the current parking driveway area is a a shared easement with the with the house right behind it on Greenbush. Yeah. And he's and they're having some iss they're having some issues with that easement right now. So they he wants to create his his own uh two new parking spots. It is a two family. So, he's allowed three. He's allowed six max. I believe according to his drawings

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only, he wants to put two there. And he's going to have to angle them in because they can't be stacked, right? Um, it's got to be paved. Can't be stacked. And he also can't use it. He's got to do something to keep them from driving through. Can't block the sidewalk. He's got to He's got to create a new curb cut. You guys know all this stuff. But you got to make all all those stipulations stipulations in the requirement. Yeah. And if you'll also look, I believe the county made some recommendations or possibly would these be on green bush or no on a great question. And whatever you guys do, it has to be in it has to be I know. I'm trying to figure So that's still considered this is okay. So in this area right there. Yeah, that's what I was wondering where you put it. So with these angle basically take out that look. It's kind of like is there enough room for that? You know, doesn't look like there's too much space for three parking two two still going to be tight. It's very tight. That corners not. He's got the stop sign and the walkway. I'm not sure how it's going to look. I just screwed that up. ft for the church. That's the whole sideyard. Yeah, it's very it's very narrow's not very well. Doesn't have a lot of plantations. No, I mean I'm looking at this yellow.

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Oh yeah. And I think he needs better drawings for you guys. Maybe we could table this still next month. Kevin back in. I'm gonna make a motion that we table this one as well like we did the other one. Yeah, we didn't just a little more detailings. It's Yeah, better drawings. Yeah, I want to go by the house in person, too. Yeah, I mean, so I mean, honestly, the guy takes great care of the house. He's fixed it up. Fixed it up. You know, does that seem that back and forth, right? Feel like it was always being painted every other year by somebody. Yeah. Yeah. But I I mean I see his point. If you look at the the one driveway on the side of the house, it's it's that could it could potentially be difficult when it's very tight over there. Yeah. Yes. I don't know if this is better though. 10 foot sideyard. There be virtually no buffer between the sidewalk and the driveway. I don't disagree. It's tough pulling out of there too on green Yeah. backing out on the green bush. That would be crazy. Oh, yeah. The county office building is in session. Got everybody going into those two. That's right there. And you have the intersection and then Yeah. All right. Well, let's let's see if we can get better drawings from him between now and next month and ask him some of these questions. Some of our concerns, you know, foot traffic in general. Yeah. You mentioned there was no I think I missed what you said. I think he wants according to the plan I'm seeing too, he still would need the some of that easement to pull cars into that drive. Yeah, but he wouldn't need but right now it's not I mean if you when you drive by I I can't give it justice right now. It's there's no room there at all. Right. Looks like he's taking up the whole side yard and just are you just going to pull into the street and have I don't disagree with anything that you're saying. He's It looks like

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I'm just trying to try trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I as it stands right now, I'd have to vote no, but I would like to like to give him a chance to come and tell us what his thoughts are. So, I just happen it looks like I mean, according to what he's got here, yes, the whole sideyard is going to be paved and it looks like it looks like he's going to use it as as a drive-thru and I don't right I don't think this space. Well, again, I'd like to make a motion on table and give him a chance to come back and acknowledge what his thoughts. Yeah, I think he needs to be here. We just can't we can't approve this with what we got. Agree 100%. Okay. So, can somebody second my motion? Okay. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor of tableing agenda item number five till next month say I. I. Anyone opposed? All right. motion here. Our our sixth and final agenda item besides this is an extension item that was an extension. U previously you moved the right. You just need more time because of state funding approval, right? He hasn't gotten state funding approval. So we'd like to get that extended for another year. All right. First of all, everybody understand what we're looking for, what he's looking for. He just needs a one more year extension. I don't think it's really going to change too much. Is this are we coming up out of the last? This is the Yeah, this is uh Yeah, this would be over well extending a year from today's date is what it would do. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm familiar with with it. It's you know where uh Hides Diner used to be there. He's he's making that building behind there. Oh, I know. We did talk about this. Yeah, so it's a Gillette skirt factory, right? He's going to change it into a multi-unit, right? Okay. residential housing, right? He just needs more time. He's already tore down the two houses in the front, right? From what I understand, like your he said, he rented it ran into some

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issues with the state funding for that project and now it's on track again. So, with Mr. Beckwith and Mr. Caliber about this project, they believe a year extension would they'll be well underway in. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I wasn't familiar with it. All right. So the motions on on the floor for a table till or not table I'm sorry to approve it one year from today's date so to run out on June 2nd 2026. Um did somebody motion that I can't remember. All right Brendan motioned it first second. Further discussion all right. All those in favor of giving him one more year say I. I. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion carried. The last item on our our meeting tonight is to approve the minutes from the uh previous month it would have been minutes from the May meeting. Everybody have a chance to look at those questions concerns. Okay. stand over. I didn't see anything. We need four votes to get any say we can look. All right. All those in favor of approving the main minutes say I. I. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion car. Our next meeting will be in July. Let me give you the date if I can find it. I think I think it was it's usually the first Monday. I'm just checking to see if it falls on a holiday. I think it was the the week after. I think this one or July 8 7th, right? I think July 30th. All right. So, yeah. July 7th. July July 7th. July 7th be the next meeting for the planning

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commission. that on your calendar. All right, good meeting you guys.

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