City Council - Regular Meeting

It is my honor to offer this proclamation for fair housing month. Uh whereas April is the month when we celebrate national fair housing month. In this month we feel grateful for the fair housing act that was passed on April 11th, 1968. And whereas this law was designed to protect Americans from facing discrimination in selling or buying houses, it is also a basic human concept and entitlement for people. This these include discrimination in the rental, sale, and financing of houses based on color, race, and even gender. As a community, we have the right to be free of any form of discrimination. In our communities, people belonging to diverse backgrounds should be warmly welcomed as our neighbors. And whereas in the past people used to show discrimination towards others in terms of housing, some of the most damaging discrimination examples are found in the past, including minority neighborhoods that were located far from quality schools, public transportation, and jobs. And whereas the Fair Housing Act was signed by President Johnson and it was passed after the death of civil rights leader Dark Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. who was in Memphis on April 4th, 1968 to support the sanitation worker strike when he was shot and killed. As a result of the tragedy, Congress collectively passed the 1968 Fair Housing Act. And whereas Fair Housing Month reminds us

that the principle of Fair Housing is not only state and national law, but a fundamental human concept, an entitlement for all people. As a community, we welcome all good neighbors, recognizing the contributions and richness tendered by a wide variety of people from diverse backgrounds, colors, ethnicities, or religious traditions. Now, therefore, I, Stephen M. Morris, mayor, and behalf of the city council of the city of Concord to hereby proclaim April 2026 as fair housing month. Great. Thank you for all the work that you do to make this happen. Great.

Thank you, Okay. And I think we move now to public hearings. Uh first is uh these will p will be public hearings that will be um held on Thursday night. Uh and so on the first one will be regarding a public hearing to consider adopting an ordinance amending article five subdivision plat site plans and construction plans. Article seven base zoning districts and article 10 development and design standards of the Concord development ordinance. And I think Kevin Ashley is gonna make some comments about that one. Welcome.

This item is a uh I guess you call this a a corrective cleanup amendment. It's it's it's really pretty simple. Transportation wanted us to to take this. Um again, as the mayor said, articles 5, 7, and 10 have little bits and pieces of the TIA um ordinance. Um, so back in tra that's traffic impact analysis. Back in 2021, we adopted an ordinance that basically e easy way to look at it. Before you develop a parcel, you have to have a transportation impact analysis approved. We we we put that in the technical standards manual. And there were pieces in the CDO that this refers to that we now need to correct. And so a lot of um a lot of this is well actually all of this are just it just memorializes the way we do things. It corrects some incorrect terminology. Planning and engineering terms evolve like everything else and and so I'll walk you through that. And again this is just corrective and basically reflects the way we do business right now. So the first thing this is a uh this is one of the requirements for subdivision plat and we're just enumerating the things that are required to be shown on the subdivision plat. Um we require as a result of your TIA new traffic signals or traffic signal upgrades need to be shown on the plat. So this is just a labeling change. Believe it or not, if you know, we do have developers that get these approved and then they they're like, "Well, we got it approved, but why do we have to show it on our plan? This just covers us all and make sure that everything's where it should be." Um, and for for site plans, this is another thing that that that we would require. Um, sidewalks, pedestrian facilities are now often called multi-use paths. This is terminology that is that is contemporary in nature and it's just

it's just updating the way we the way these things are identified. Fiber optic cables we we we have to actually put on put in the ordinance that you're required to show those. You know it kind of goes without saying but you know we do have have to be redundant on some of our labeling requirements. And additionally you have to show the proposed right of ways that are result of your traffic mitigation agreement which is part of the TIA. So if you have a TIA and you're supposed to widen the road, you need to reflect that on the plat. And again, these are things that we've been doing for for 5 years at this point. Um we also we are we're also saying that you have to show the related improvements to the existing and proposed roadway as results which results from your TMA. So basically anything that the TIA requires, your TMA requires needs to be shown on the plat. And that's all we're doing here. We're changing the term sidewalk to pedestrian facilities and we're including the term multi-use path. That's a another indication of new terminology. You know, it's it's much more than sidewalks now. They're often much wider and they're called pedestrian facilities. Um and and at the bottom you see um the transportation reference to city of Concord transportation and we're actually putting the director in there as being the person responsible for reviewing the design standards. As you see at the bottom we refer to the city of Concord traffic engineer in our current current ordinance. That's actually a position that's under the director. So, we're making sure that the director is the person, transportation director, the person that can review and sign off on these changes. So, another thing that was changed, it was when we did the the TIA ordinance back in 2021, but wasn't reflected in the ordinance, are new street sections. And these are changes in the widths of the ride ofway for different types of different types of roads. And this just puts what's in the

transportation standards manual, technical standards manual into the CDO. And again, all of these are just labeling requirements. They reflect the way we've been working for for for 5 years since we adopted the the the TIA um requirements in the TSM. And this is the statement of reasonableness and consistency that was approved by PNZ. They approved it unanimously with uh very little discussion. Philip and Philip and Tony were at the meeting and they didn't have any questions from the planning commission. So great. Thank you. Any questions for Kevin?

All right. Thank you, sir. We move to the next one. This will be a public hearing um adopting an ordinance amending the zoning map and Fred WLE is going to talk about that item. Uh, good afternoon, Mayor Morris, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Kochinsky, and Miss Jenkins. The item before you is a conditional resoning application, case number ZCD0125. Um, the uh applicant uh again is for conditional the application for an addition conditional resoning, a case that was submitted by our very own Mary Carr um on behalf of the city. Um the four parcels in question um and to be considered in this resounding are located at um 228 and 234 McGill Avenue, 438 and 445 Allison Streets and all four of the parcels comprise approximately 820 acres. Um the applicant again is proposing to reszone the four parcels from B1 uh neighborhood commercial and office and RC residential compact uh to C2 CD which is general commercial um conditional district uh all for the purposes of developing a culinary incubator um and food hub and associated parking. The planning and zoning commission considered this application at their February 16th meeting of this year um and voted unanimously to forward this request to council with a recommendation that the zoning map be amended um accordingly uh as well as the land use plan be amended um to designate the parcels as commercial. This particular slide here shows the existing uh conditions and the areas to be considered uh for the culinary incubator and the food hub as well as the associated parking. And previously the parcels contain retail uses on both

sides of the McGill and Allison Streets Allison Street intersections. Um and a single family residence was previously located at 438 Allison. The structures have since been demolished um within the last two years um and the lands have been cleared for this particular project. This particular slide is of the applicant site plan. Um, and council should be advised that it did receive DRC review and approval. Um, additionally, council should be advised that the primary primary vehicular access for this site will be achieved uh via driveway access off of Freeze Avenue. Um, and additional vehicular parking will be available for the new lot located at the Allison Street and McGill Avenue uh intersection. There are a total of 18 parking spaces to be associated with this particular project. Additionally, the applicant's proposing an 80 8,624 square foot facility um that will house space for a culinary incubator, a retail section, as well as a container village. I mean, again, this overall project is a a public and nonprofit partnership to create um an educational facility for prospective entrepreneurs who um can obtain the necessary skills and knowledge to sustain a successful culinary business. Um and as a part of their adjacent property owner notification and neighborhood notification process, the city did conduct public surveys um as well as in-person meetings with the adjacent property owners um and neighborhood associations. uh the calls that we as staff received uh from the public since advertising as well as posting the site uh have all been in support of this particular project. This next slide uh is uh slide showing the elevations of the proposed facility um from the north, south, east, and west. I think the next slide will probably give you a better uh I guess a more real world uh view of a 3D modeling

of the facility with it proposed on-site amenities. In regards to the surrounding uh zoning, the area surrounded uh surrounding subject properties are characterized by residential village um residential compact as well as neighborhood commercial and office uses with residential, commercial, and institutional um uses on those lands. In regards to the 2030 land use plan, um there are two land use categories uh that are beholden to these properties. One is um urban neighborhood um and the other is commercial. Um, however, uh, C2, the proposed zoning designation, is not listed as a corresponding zoning district under the urban neighborhood land use class, uh, category. Um, so therefore, that's why we're here before you guys with the proposed land use amendment. In regards to the statement uh, of consistency, those listed on the left side of that slide were approved by planning and zoning commission unanimously. Um, should councils uh deem denials appropriate, you would rely upon those uh four bulleted points on the right side of that particular slide. Terms of the suggested conditions, um staff recommends that uh the applicant comply with the McGill food incubator resoning plan as well as the McGill food incubator exterior elevations along with the uh food incubator uh exterior views as submitted. Um, additionally, technical site plan review and approval is going to be required for all outside local, state, um, and federal agencies. Um, and any additional or future modifications and additions would need to be approved by, uh, planning and zoning commission. In regards to council's next steps, uh, they are to approve or deny the statement of consistency, to approve or deny the zoning map amendment, um, and to approve or deny the land use amendment. And I'll gladly answer any

questions council may have at this time. Mr. Mayor, this is an exciting project that I think we started when Mary was still a teenager. I mean, it was years ago. How close are we to this?

Well, I I don't want to put words in Mary's mouth because I just u asked her the same question last week. Um, but right now we're working with some various funding agencies to try to procure as much funding as we can, perhaps from uh other nonprofits. Uh, we've got some funding from the federal government. Uh, and so we're still seeking some funds. We still have a delta there. Uh, a difference of funding. And so at some point in time, uh, we'll have to kind of draw the line in the sand and come back to city council and say, "Hey, we've done all that we can trying to procure funds." And so the balance is X and and we would like for the city to to fund that. So we're working on a plan. We just are not ready to kind of lay out the whole financials yet. We're just trying to get the land prepped and ready from a zoning perspective.

Okay.

Any other questions, comments? Okay. Then we'll move to the next item and I think Kevin Ashley will be back with us to talk about a public hearing to consider sign standards. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Colchinsky, Miss Jenkins. This item in some ways it's a little more complex than than the than the first one I presented, but in in some ways it's it's a it's a little bit corrective. It's a way to um make sure that all the schools are traded created maybe not equal treated maybe not equally, but similarly in the way that they can display their their messages. As you know, school schools need to advertise events, games, um first days of school, etc., etc. Um, and the most efficient way is a digital message board sign. Back in the old days, you used to have the readerboard signs where they put the individual letters up, which was very, very timeconuming. And in a lot of jurisdictions now are are letting schools do the digital digital message boards. And we also we allow those in in non-residential districts. Um, and we we allow schools to be built in residential districts, but if a school in a res residential dis district is not on a thoroughare, which is a main heavily traveled road, we we don't allow them to have digital signs. And so that's kind of where we're we're going with this with this amendment. And the school board asked us to to take a look at the CDO and and and maybe come up with a way again to to allow all the schools to be treat be treated similarly in terms of being able to display those messages is they do have a number of schools in residential districts. So, it's only one section of the ordinance that's being changed. And when we pose this to planning commission and they said, "Well, um, maybe in addition

to looking at schools that are in residential districts, what about these other uses that could be adjacent to residential districts, shouldn't we address signs there, too?" And so, they directed us to to look at signs that were adjacent to residential districts and for other uses. So, the way we we've rolled this out, um, we're basically saying that any digital sign in a non-residential district, it's with within 100 feet of residential property, that sign would have to go dark from 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. I don't think there are a lot of or I don't think there are any of these in the city, but this would be something going forward. If someone has has a service station, say there's a there's a there's a house behind it and they want to put up a a digital reader board, that sign would have to be turned off at 11:00 at night. Couldn't come back on till 6:00 in the next morning. That just, you know, keeps the keeps the light away. So, we've added four schools and residential districts and those within 100 ft of a residential district. We're saying that for primary schools, those signs would have to go dark between 7:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. For secondary and unified schools, between 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. And knowing that these older kids, the events are going to go a little longer, etc., etc. And all other schools in civic uses, 8:00 to 6:00 a.m. would be the cut off time for the signs. There's also a provision in here that says that any sign on a DOT road has to meet the DOT standards for um illumination and for message duration and and they have a st and I think it's 12 or 15 seconds. The message has to stay static for that amount. So you can't have blinking blinking blinking. The message has to stay like that and that would be that

would be a requirement. And we discussed at length, you know, other other options to, you know, internally with and with the folks at the school board to to allow digital signage for schools and residential districts. And one of their options, which don't know how much of a don't think this is really an attractive option, they could reszone all the schools in the residential districts to OI. That would allow them to have a much larger sign and wouldn't have any type of requirement that the sign be turned off at night. So you could get a M, you know, they could they could essentially do that and get around, you know, the the the prohibition of signs in a residential district to allow them to do the digital message boards. So that's kind of that's kind of where we are. Planning commission discussed this at length. They were very comfortable with the language. Um, school board was comfortable with the language and and I would anticipate that Thursday night that one of the schoolboard attorneys may be here to to voice support of the petition. So, are there any any questions?

Questions for Kevin? I have a question, Kevin. Yes. So, this I don't expect you to know this, but you probably do. So, like I'm thinking Mills at Rocky River. Yes. Right. So, you've got Patriots. What else you got there, John? Is that middle school? Yes. CC Griffin. Yeah. So, is that an example that because those schools are in the neighborhood, they're not on a main road? Yes. Yes, because I know Weddington Road um elementary, what is that one? Weddington Hills. It already has that sign. That's under and that because of Weddington Road being a heavily tower road and even if it were residential, it would be permitted. Okay. So, but the mills at Rocky River that may be zoned OI. I'm not sure.

Okay. It may be PUB. I'm just curious how many how many schools this actually impacts and where those location I went through and I I plucked out the ones I could until GIS froze up on me this afternoon. Concord High, Concord Middle, um the International School on Popular Tent Road, the charter school, um Coxill High School. Oh, yeah. Fur. And so those are the ones I I'm I'm thinking of that fall under this requirement. Okay. And then can I ask a question? What is a unified? Yeah, that would be if you have a if you have a district that has K through 12 essentially going all the way from Okay, perfect. Thank you.

such as Canon, I'm assuming. I have a question. So, how would um this impact culture and web school? You know, they have the old traditional sign board out and it's I guess it's considered to be on a major or thoroughare. We thought it was, but it is not. Spring Street is actually a it may be a minor collector. It's either a minor collector or a local street. So, this this would allow Cultron Web to be able to to put the digital message board up. Okay. And so, that was that was one of the schools where, you know, we ought to we should look at some way to turn it off. at night. Okay. All right. Thank you.

It wouldn't have to be. Okay. So, you expanded this beyond schools. If I heard you correctly, we did. So, how would it affect Old Courthouse Theater right next door? That's a good question. I'm not sure what Old Courthouse Theater is is zoned. I think I believe they are zoned residential. So, it would it would impact them if they wanted to do that. They they would have to. They would go by the same rules. However, they are in the historic district. So, they would have to get a certificate for their sign as would cultur Web. Cultron Web already has basic approval for that sign through their right total certificate. Yes.

Yeah. Okay. And I guess R Brown Mallister would be in that same their own residential. Yeah. And I will have to go back and look at the at the old courthouse zoning. Beverly Hills. Um I looked at Beverly Hills OI. So they would not fall under Okay. Yeah. And you know, back when we rolled out the OI zoning, you know, way back in the in the dark ages, you know, back in the 90s when we when we started it, we anticipated that every school in the county and every church essentially would be zoned Oi. Uhhuh.

And you know, they started moving moving that way. And there was quite a bit of opposition in some of the neighborhoods to resoning to OI. And so that's that's the reason some of these some of these newer schools are not. And we decided that to to accommodate the school board and the school construction, we would allow them in residential districts. Gotcha. Any other questions? All right. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Next up, consider a public hearing for the 2627 agency annual action plan. And Mary Carr will talk about that one. Mayor, members of council, Mr. Pay Miss Kchinsky. Uh, yearly HUD does require that the city of Concord submit an annual action plan for public housing and that is what this request is. Uh, the action plan does cover the proposed uses of funds for the upcoming year. There is also a capital fund piece that identifies potential uses for the next four years in addition to this current year. Um the plan was provided to the public through um a a digital copy online. It was also provided printed copy uh at the admin center, the tech center and also at the public library. There was a public input session that was held March the 11th at the technology center. And there was also the plan was also presented to the resident council at their meeting that afternoon at 400 p.m. Um I am happy to answer any questions that you may have related to this but staff has completed the regulatory requirements of the posting in the independent tribune and also um ensuring that the p that the submission for this will be completed 75 days prior to the beginning of Concord's fiscal year.

Did anybody come to Um, the public input session, no. But the resident council meeting, yes. And all of the comments were in favor of the proposed usage of the funds. Okay. Any additional questions? All right. Thank you. Uh, next up, uh, Joel White is going to talk to us about an agreement with the NC DOT for landscape installation.

Yes. Good afternoon, mayor, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Colchinsky, and Miss Jenkins. Um, for your review of this agenda item representing a a proposal from NC DOT to partner with the city and landscaping all four quadrants of uh the George L and US 29 interchange. Um, the plan would consist of low maintenance shrubs, um, ornamental grasses, and um, native grasses. Apologize. Um it would be at no expense to the city. The uh the landscaping would be installed by NC DOT with remaining funds from the project fund that built George W. Liles. Um and then DOT would maintain the landscaping for the one-year establishment period and then maintenance would be turned over to the city for uh annual maintenance in perpetuity at a cost of an estimated $35,000. Um that would cover mulch herbicide fertility applications and uh just overall overall maintenance. Um happy to ask her any questions. Excuse me. Answer any questions if anyone has one.

Questions for Joel. I don't have questions, but that's a much needed area that needs some dressing.

Sure. Yes. It would definitely create a sense of arrival and a and a a memorable exit. There are some theum there are some pictures included with this design here uh just to kind of give a brief um a brief idea of what we're talking about. So talking about doing the ups slopes there at the bridge abupments um leaving it naturalized um away from the bridge abutments and up above but just adding some color and landscaping material there at ground level. Happy to answer any other questions. Good move. Pretty important gateway to the city out there. Thank Thank you.

All right. Thank you. Okay. Next, uh, Philip Graham is going to talk with us about a professional services contract for transportation planning.

All right. Thank you, Mayor, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Kjinski, Miss Jenkins. Uh this is our annual contract for the Cabaris Rowan Metropolitan Planning Organization staffing. So the the planning services for that. So every the the contracts are one year plus one-year extension options. Uh we are ending this July the extension of our last contract. Uh so we did put that out for advertisement. We worked with NC DOT on that language. It's a standard form from them. As far as the the advertisement language, we received four submitts. Uh we shortlisted all four of those and conducted interviews. We had two members from Rowan County, two members from Cabaris County, as well as a member from NC DOT staff that conducted the interviews and scored uh all the candidates. Uh the highest overall score was RL Conrad Associates LLC who is also here in case you have any questions. Um and the the contract would then if you approve would then move on to uh scoping fees with uh with Phil and RL Conrad Associates and then move to the Office of Inspector uh General's office for approval from NC DOT. So that is our item there. So yeah, I'll happy to take any questions.

Surely since Mr. Conrad took the effort to be here, somebody should have a difficult question for him. He loves hard questions. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Next item three. Uh Mary Carr will be back with us to talk about a resolution to sell a home. Mayor, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Kchinsky. My last item for the evening, I promise, is the request to sell 341 Broad Drive. This is a home that was built with home funds. Uh, Miss Katherine Juliana Graham has requested to purchase this home. This home was built with the same standards that Concord has built our previous home. Um, we do meet and exceed Energy Star standards and system vision requirements with all of our homes. Uh the home is a two-bedroom, two bath home located on Broad Drive. The asking price was 220,350 and we did receive that asking price from Miss Graham and she is not requesting down payment assistance. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.

Questions on this one. Thank you. Okay. Next up, um Jackie Deal will talk with us about a application from Rivera Construction LLC.

Good afternoon, Mayor, members of council, Mr. Payne, Miss Colchensky, Miss Jenkins. Um, before you, we have uh a request from Riviera Construction LLC. They've submitted an application for water and sewer service. Um, this is 1.1 acres zone county LDR and it's in within area B and the owners wish to uh construct one single family home. This is the site. Again, this is a zoomed out version. This is the plat that um uh it shows Bostonwood estate subdivision. So this means we cannot annex annex this property. And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.

So we cannot because they're part of a subdivision. We cannot annex. Is that the issue? Does that mean other homes in this subdivision can keep asking for water and sewer? You Yes. You cannot annex one single parcel in a subdivision. What if all of them want water and sewer? You don't have to give it to them. So, we don't have to do this. No. That was kind of my question as well. the area B. Can you explain why in definition of area B versus the subdivision, what does that mean? There are some pre-existing subdivisions within area B.

Okay. Um, this one happens to have water and sewer available. A lot of them don't. Um, this particular property, uh, has it on the frontage and the big double line, that's the Wasach line. Once in a while we get these where they happen to have access via the wasac line. Not many of them have water and sewer available within the subdivision. Um so by definition area B means was runs right through there. Is that uh no no

no area B is an agreement that we have with the county where we typically don't uh provide services. Um we amend that periodically. Um,

yes, if if services are going to be provided to some parcel within area B of of that agreement with the county, that requires an amendment to that document, but it's done administratively at this point because we've done it this way for so many years. So many many years ago, the city and the county, there was a lawsuit and part of the settlement was that the city would not extend utilities into this area. The idea is they wanted to keep this area rural and un you know developed more as rural property rather than um having all of these subdivisions.

No one can hear you, sir. I said even though it ended up being a subdivision. Well, this is a pre-existing subdivision and it's not really a subdivision like we we think about subdivision is like Aftton. These are more no HOA rural subdivisions, right? And so I think that word can be a little bit misleading especially in that area B in my opinion. I'm sorry. And area A is where we absolutely do not work. Area B we we do, but there's um there's a lot more coordination that goes on with area A with the county.

So, the other lots in this subdivision, adjacent lots already have water and sewer. A lot of them do. Um and this one appears to be one that hasn't been built upon probably because of the big easement for Wasach that runs through there. So, you know, potentially you might get a few more, but a lot of these are already built out, right? Yep.

Just to add, if I could, uh, you can tell by the picture there, this is a a traditionally planned subdivision. A lot of these you receive just happen to have water because a line was run 20 miles to Midland, right? Uh, this is very different. There's water and sewer that serves essentially this entire subdivision, and it was built entirely to serve these these properties. you just now have to go through this administrative process to allow them to connect. So just to make that distinction of some of the ones you see are are coincidence. This is is more of a planned a planned neighborhood situation. Great. Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

All right. Thank you. Okay. Now we'll turn it over to Valerie for the next item.

Hi, good evening. Um, in 2020, the electric department bought some property in order to build a substation on Ruben Linker Road. Uh, that substation has in fact been built and is out there operational right now. Uh, there was some it was more property than they actually needed for the substation. and the electric department, Alex was approached by someone from Hendrickk uh with a request for the city to sell that property. They did offer the the purchase price of $400,000. It is about $2.7 acres. Um that shakes out to my math is not great, but somewhere around $150,000 an acre. Um, so the resolution before you is to authorize the sale of 2.7 acres more or less uh located off of Ruben Linker Road. Um, that is part of the property that the electric department purchased. And the resolution will direct city staff to take all of the appropriate steps, including putting it all through the upset bid process in order to convey this property to Hendrick. Happy to answer any questions if I can. Oh, and I think they're going to they want to use it for parking.

Yeah. Any questions on this item? All right, we move to item six and I'll turn it over to city manager Lloyd Payne.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So uh as we talked about last month and per the discussion at the council retreat earlier this year, this was the one document that could not be adopted uh last month due due to due to the clause at the end of the document which and I state no council rule concerning the conduct of meetings or this document may be adopted, amended or appealed upon less than 30 days notice presented at a regular meeting which I did last month. Uh such notice to be recorded in the minutes of that meeting. And so uh this document can be actioned by council on Thursday evening. Uh that would be my recommendation to you based on the changes uh which again have been discussed by council at the retreat uh and then since reviewed by council as well. Happy to answer any questions that you may have about your document. Any questions? All right. Thank you. Okay. Next uh item seven. consider appointing a voting delegate for the North Carolina League of Municipality City Vision 2026 conference. Is this something we need to discuss tonight or Thursday night?

Either one, mayor. Just as long as the votes taken by Thursday. Yeah. Okay. Um, in talking with with some council members, um, historically, uh, the mayor has been the voting delegate, uh, for this conference. If in attendance, I do plan to be there and be happy to do that. Um, so I'll leave it to the discretion of council if you want to make a motion and um in regards to this tonight or if you'd prefer to wait till Thursday. I would move that you be our delegate. Mayor, I'll second that.

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? I have a question, Lloyd. Do we normally do a a a backup delegate, too? Am I dreaming that that we've done that before? They they have in the past and Leslie and I were talking about that as well. This year and I think even maybe last year there was no call to assign an alternate but in the past you're right. They had a primary and an alternate but it's just the one. Yeah. Okay. Any other discussion? All in favor please say I.

All oppose. No. That motion passes. Thank you. Next up is the consent agenda. I have not heard from anyone um expressing any desire to need to talk about any items on consent agenda. So I think that completes our business uh for this work session. Uh we will reconvene for the third time today um to for a budget presentation at 5 I say 5:30

5:30 is more like it. So I would entertain a motion to adjurnn to recess. No to recess to recess. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor, please say I. All oppose, no. We stand in recess until 5:30.