Borough Council - Regular Meeting

We are live. I'd call to order uh tonight council meeting April 28, 2026 starting at 7 p.m. Have a roll call, please. Council person here. Here. here. Here

you is there anybody would like to give an invitation?

May I have your name please?

De Brander. Let us pray. Dear heavenly father, we thank you for the privilege of gathering here this evening. Please grant us the ability to listen and contribute with open hearts, speak with honesty, and respect the opinions of others. Please provide our council members with guidance and wisdom wisdom to make sound decisions for the benefit of of our community. Amen. to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Announcement of executive sessions. There were none. Additions, deletions, reorganization of the agenda. I have a motion to approve the agenda.

Make a motion. Second. I have a motion by Councilman Gezy, second by Councilman Murphy to approve the agenda as published. All in favor say I. Citizen comments, Nathan Kersner.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Burough Council President of Columbia Burough. My name is Nathan. I'm with Unlimited Selling out of Marietta, Pennsylvania. Um, it was brought to our attention by some other local tow companies, but there was a local tow company that came in last meeting and proposed to you guys to have a primary tow company for Columbia Burough. after considering it's not our type to come in in front of boards, in front of members to complain, bring our business into the spotlight. But we couldn't sit back and let this go unnoticed. With the countless hours that we give to residents of Columbia Burough, the fire department of Columbia Burough, and doing stuff with the police department of Columbia Burough, we could not sit back and let this happen to the residents of Columbia Burough. We have done countless hours of donating Christmas trees around Christmas time to all the residents of Columbia Burough that chose to come out. The Toys for Tots drive on the bridge this year we were a big part of. We were contacted by the radio station to assist with traffic control. We have four um rollbacks that are mounted with traffic message boards on it to help slow down the traffic through there. We also made a donation of $1,500 in toys to the Toys for Pots. Um the last two years at National Night Out, we have donated over 400 backpacks, police stock, and water bottles to the students of Columbia School District that came out. That was a total donation of over $10,000 to the school district and the students. Um with in the past, there has never been a designated primary toe company from Columbia Burough that I know of. I know there was a tow company uh Midway that was the sole towing company in Colombia um due to him being in the Columbia area and him just being Columbia local. Um we've been servicing Colombia for roughly about two and a half years now. We have not had a complaint that I know of from

any of the police departments or officers that with our services. Our average ETA response time during the day is five to seven minutes to a call from the time that we are called by county dispatch. Our evening average response time is 8 to 10 minutes. We have two we have one resident that lives within the burrow or just right outside the burrow um kind of westfield township. I live 8 minutes away from the burrow and we have another employee that lives right over area. So we have three employees that are within 10 minutes of the burrows and responding to any um need for the department. Columbia Burough has called us out times for illegally parked vehicles. We get on scene, resident comes out, moves the vehicle. We don't charge the resident. We don't charge the police department. We uh we were requested by the department for two cars to donate to the department for live firearms training that they were able to use at no cost, no expense to the residents or the burough. Um same with the fire department. They've contacted us for that and we've assisted with them doing that. There is a local tow company that has been towing in Columbus Burough and some of their employees have showed up on the scenes of emergency calls when they were not called to. they were asked to leave by the officers that were on scene and dismissed from the scene. Um, some of these off some of these employees that showed up were advised by some of the officers that if they continue to do it that there could be a citation issue. Um, we have never responded to a call in Columbia Burough that we have not been called to. We have been called to all of the calls through county dispatch. Um, and that is what we do. We will not what they consider repace jump calls. We wait for the call to be called. Um, I just think with the way it has been in Colombia, these officers dedicate their time, their a lot of effort to this burrow and they they should have the right and the decision of which to companies they

choose to call that is approved to tow in the burrow. Um, they have the right and the decision to make who they arrest, who they don't arrest, what charges they file. These officers shouldn't have to be held where they have to. Okay, this is our code company. This is who we have to call when they're having some issues response time, stuff like that. If they know that there's a company that has a better response time or better work ethics in the burrow with the residents and stuff like that, it should be up to those officers to make that decision. Um, one of the examples is we had two families right here in the 200 block of North Third Street. I'd say roughly probably four to five months ago, maybe a little bit longer, that both of their vehicles from that family were hit by a drunk driver and they lost both of their vehicles. And those two families had no transportation because the drunk driver that hit them did not have proper insurance to cover all the vehicles. One of those residents, they had a 2008 Suzuki. We had it in our yard for 119 days waiting for insurance to figure out what they were doing. At the end of the day, that resident came to me and said, "Look, I have no money. I can't pay this." We said, "All we ask is you to earn us the title." We did not charge that resident a dollar or a dime. We had three trucks out there, four different employees, hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment plus the cleanup. And we did not charge those residents a dime. We got paid for one vehicle out of five. And the vehicle that caused it, we did work out a scenario with that owner to come in and pay $450 is what that person had to pay to clean out their vehicle and they tend to title to us for that vehicle. That is how we handle things with the residents of Columbia Burrow. We look out for them. It's not about who we can screw and what dollar we're making. It's about making the residents happy in Columbia. In closing, I hope that Burough Council looks at all of the stuff that we have done for Columbia and considers that not making a policy or procedure where

there's a primary tow company and leaving it up to the office of Columbia Burough to continue the way they have for the last few years here and call which toe company they choose to at the time. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Right.

Thank you. Good evening you all. Um, unbeknown to me at the time, I understand we had a a speed trap up in the Arville Pike. I think it started at 12 Street out. uh what Friday a week ago about then

uh I knew there was something wrong cuz I was working at my shop and things were just different and I didn't know till I went downtown and then one of the store owners told me they had a speed trap up there. Oh, I said now I know why traffic was different. Didn't hear the loud noise, the motorcycles, whatever. But can I ask uh how many people was caught in the speed trap? 30 30 of them. Were they fined or warned? I would have to look into that. I know there was 30 traffic stops. I would have to see the outcome, whether it was a warning or a citation.

Yes. Well, it was different. But them couple hours was was great, but then it went back to it later on in the day. But, you know, we would would take but but I want to thank whoever put that together. I know wasn't just one person. There was probably more than one that authorized this, but it worked. And we have tools like that. Why don't we use them more often? That's it's just as a citizen's thing bringing that up. Um, one of the one of the topics in the town is the towing services. And the little bit that I know about it, uh it it the system's been broken for a long time. And in speaking with Jack, uh he said they are working on a new policy somehow. How they're doing it, I don't know. But there's so many issues to this and I'm wondering if you're going to do a work session on this so everybody gets to know exactly what's going on. you bring topics up that's you know needs discussed.

Frank at this time council has no desire to set a policy for staff in that matter. Staff is creating a policy. Um if the staff's willing to yes we can bring it up at the workshop to talk about it but that's a staff function not a council function. Create that policy. But uh in speaking with Holly last week, she is working on new rules or a policy or whatever. And what better way to do that is have a work session and have that come up. If Holly chooses to do it that way, that's fine. We'll do it. Surely I'm

That's great. That way everybody gets on the same page and and from what I know like I said it's a broken system and it needs and that's the only way you're going to get input. I thank you very much. Thank you.

Kim Robinson. probably already answered my question for me. Excuse me. She already answered my question for me. Okay.

All right. Is there anybody else who would like to speak at this time? All right. Minutes for approval. Consider approval of the burough council meeting minutes for April 14, 2026. Second. I have a motion by Councilman Cooper, second by Councilman Buyers to approve the minutes for April 14, 2026. Anybody have any questions, concerns? All in favor say I. Hi.

I have it.

Mayor looks a couple things. Uh, last Friday night was go green celebration down at the river park crossing and combined with that was Arbor Day. Hundreds of people were there. I thought it was it was a wonderful event. I believe it was better attended than than last year. Last year was the first year and so I think it's growing. Uh a big thanks to Dan Sad and his crew who worked putting that together. And as I mentioned uh that that evening uh with Arbor Day 34 years we have been named a tree city 30th consecutive year uh and that's due to the work of our shade tree commission and our park rangers and bur uh public works department and other volunteers. So I think people in Columbia are getting it uh about going green and I hope it continues to grow. Um so that was a wonderful time and I'm looking forward to it again next year. So now tenant Art is going to uh have some things and then I'm going to chime in with that. I think he's around the door. Find the door.

He's not stopping except a little bit in the middle.

Good evening everyone. It's always meaning it's always a meaningful moment when we gather to recognize the work, dedication, and professionalism of one of our own. Corporal Jack I'm sorry this microphone is in the way. Tonight we are here to honor the promotion of Officer Jack Hop to the rank of Corporal. Corporal Jack Hop came to Lanster County from the Harrisburg area. He graduated with honors in 2022 with a Bachelor of Arts and sociology with a focus in criminology from Millersville University. After graduating from Millersville, he worked briefly for the Lebanon County District Attorney's Office as a booking agent before before beginning his tenure with the Columbia Burough Police Department in December of 2022. Corporal Cop attended the 122nd Hack Municipal Police Academy, graduating among the top of his class. Since joining the police department, Corporal Cop has become a certified bike officer, a certified field training officer, and serves as the department's community anti-threat threats officer. Corporal Cop has also received specialized training and crime scene investigation and evidence collection, and he utilizes those tools to assist with major incidents in Columbia Burrow. Corporal Cop looks forward to continuing to train new officers and working with other supervisors and command staff to improve our police department. Throughout his tenure with the Columbia Burough Police Department, Corporal Cop has demonstrated strong work ethic, sound judgment, and a commitment to the community we serve. Whether handling calls, supporting fellow officers, or stepping up in challenging situations, he has proven himself to be a dependable and professional leader. The rank of corporal carries a new responsibility. It's a transition from being solely responsible for your own

work to helping guide others, setting the tone on a shift, mentoring younger or older officers, and leading by example. I had the privilege of helping teach Corporal Cop at the police academy. And to see the leader he has become today is something that gives me tremendous pride. At this time, I'd like to invite Amanda Paula to join us to pin Corporal Cup's badge. Corporal Corporal Cop. Congratulations. Wear the stripes with pride. Stay grounded and continue to lead the way you always have with integrity, professionalism, and respect. I'll close with one of my favorite quotes. Leadership is not about being in charge. Leadership is about taking care of those in your charge. Congratulations.

Oh, yes. reminding everyone of the bike rodeo this weekend, May 2nd. It starts at 11 o'clock at the river park. Um, we have a QR code. We have it posted on our website, our Crime Watch page, our Facebook page. If you scan the QR code that you can register your child for the event, we're giving away free bicycles, lots of fun activities that day. So, that's May 2nd starting at 11 o'clock at the river park. along with the discussion on the on the bikes. Uh last week at the His County Burrows Association quarterly meeting, there was a rather robust discussion by everybody, I would say, wouldn't you say? Absolutely.

About ebikes, electric bikes, bicycles in general, and scooters. and several of our state legislators were there and we spoke to them and and it was kind of a unanous opinion that the legislature should look at putting some rules and regulations on these on these type uh bikes and scooters. Along with that, many of the municipalities represented there that night already spoke to the fact that they are creating ordinances to regulate uh ebikes. When I say ebikes, that's pedal assist. electric bike is one where there's no pedal and and the scooters, but they're creating ordinances to regulate them along with what is also noted in the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code. In the near future, after this uh rodeo and we get together department, we talked about it today. We're going to be sitting down and reviewing the vehicle code and coming up with suggestions to council on on possible ordinances uh to regulate those type vehicles in in the community. We don't want to see we don't want to hamper people from enjoying themselves, but we also don't want to see someone killed needlessly riding his bike unsafe. Uh I've seen many times in the evenings leaving here people on electric bikes, ebikes, uh riding on the streets with no lights, no helmets. I see them on the streets with scooters. Scooters don't have lights on them. Uh so before it gets out of hand, we're going to put a curve to it. We also spoke with the Lancaster County Economic

Development Company and uh the county planning commission about the work done on trails and the discussions that are going on trails that that we need to have a across the board regulations for the use of these type uh vehicles on on trails so that someone don't go to a trail here in Colombia and is allowed to do one thing they go get on another trail somewhere else like the the Kanaga trail and they may have different regulations they get cited and they're offset because they thought they were following the regulations according to what they do in Columbia. So we're going to try to avoid that where everybody has something different. So, in the near future, uh, we will come out with some regulations. Obviously, uh, we're going to come out with them beforehand, give people a chance to comply. There will be, uh, stops along with the stops. There there will be warnings and then we will roll into, you know, we're not going to we're just not going to go out there like uh, and just enforce and start caving people. We're going to give them the chance to get with the program. But in the meantime, I hope people start looking at regulations, especially the vehicle code, and following them. And also so that when we do come out with these regulations that uh that they've already been compliant, it's a little easier to go.

Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to add uh with the bike program down at the uh uh river park this week. Parks and wreck is also part of this program. Yes. And they bought lights, both front and rear lights and bells because I know bells are a big safety thing on the trail. So that that's wonderful.

They'll be giving that stuff away as well. So she all right authoration authorization to pay the bill I have a motion by Councilman Gizy, second by Councilman Ziggler to pay the bills. Any questions? All in favor of authorized bill payments say I.

I. consider adoption of ordinance 958 parking at park.

No, you're good. I I this is one we've been back and forth with a lot. This is just um related to um the times uh that trailer parking is permitted at the parking uh down at the river park to make it enforceable. It's what you guys had been doing, but this just puts it in an ordinance of the police have the ability to to enforce that a little bit better. So, um that's that's all it does. Yeah. I can't remember. Is there good signage down there about or will there be As a result of this ordinance, the revised ordinance will match this signing. Right now, they're kindly they're kind of in conflict, but they won't be.

Yes, that was that's why this changes being made is because the sign said one thing, the ordinance has said another, which made it hard to enforce. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Kelly. Good evening. Hey, you could expect me here for this. Well, I didn't see you hiding back there. I'm I'm glad to see it's happening. And as far as the signage down there, the only thing that should need to be changed is the ordinance number on all of those signs down there because they do reference the previous ordinance. And it should reference the code section. If you change the signs, it should reference the code section, not an ordinance number. Okay.

Yeah. So, is it something that can just be a sticker attached over that previous? I would imagine as long as because there's a heck of a lot of signs down there about this. They're on every poll down there so that people can't say they didn't see them. I I have one one question. So, I I need to because I was writing stuff down. We need to change the code section. Now the other signs right now they they reference a different reference ordinance. It's a new ordinance number or number. It should reference the code the code section. Yeah. I just want to be sure.

Yeah. I'm I'm understanding what what you're saying. Okay.

Hey, the the only question I had this was the first in the packet that I saw the line through and the italics. Um there is under 20712 the very end of that last sentence and no vehicle other than a vehicle or with a trailer shall at any time be parked. Should since you are now specifying could would it hurt to change that to shall at such time be parked at such spaces because now you're putting previously any time worked because

basically the other ordinance said that you couldn't park there ever or just let it go. I'm I'm just looking at how I think I think because that time frame is referenced in the ordinance. I think any time refers to that time. I was just readingmorial didn't seem to flow. Yeah. Right. Okay. Those were the only comments I had with regard to it. And I'm glad to see that this is happening prior to Memorial Day so that we the users of that and the officers who patrol it are all on the same page. Thank you very much.

And from me Mary, I took that any to me time of the day, not not just time of week of that time of day. Thank you. Can I get a motion to adopt ordinance 958? I have a motion by Councilman Zinc. Second, you No. I don't a second by Councilman Buyers. All in favor say I have to do a roll call.

Oh, roll call. Okay. I have a roll call, please.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Consider adoption of ordinance 959 fire inspectors committee removal. So this again was just a change. Correct. Yes. Just a slight change to remove the references to the public safety committee that no longer is no longer in use at this point.

Any other questions, concerns? No. Can I get a motion to approve or to motion? I'll second. I have a motion to adopt ordinance 959 fire inspector committee removal. Councilman Cooper second by Councilman Ziggler. May I have a call vote? Council person. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Council, yes. Yes.

Yes. Consider adoption of ordinance 960 volunteer tax credit. Again, this is where we had it. The volunteer side of the volunteer firefighter side is up there.

Yeah. And this is just a couple of changes to the ordinance that I believe you worked with the fire department on to make sure they're consistent across anybody that's doing this. So, um, yeah. Yeah. Make a motion to adopt ordinance 960.

Excuse me. That's fine. Um, the one that was in the center packet does not does not accurately reflect the verbiage of the strike through and it doesn't have any of the strike through stuff. Oh, it's in the packet in the revised in the revised packet. I thought I downloaded the revised packet. Do you see that? Okay, you do have yours. Okay, then. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, okay,

okay. Yeah, I must have I thought I downloaded the correct packet, but I guess not. Thank you for that. Can I get a motion to adopt ordinance 960? No, I Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Me? Murphy. Mr. Chairman, can you give me a little more information on this? This is referring to who? When you say the volunteers.

Okay. So, in the in the volunteer services, a volunteer service tax credit for fire department. For the fire department, it used to be the firefighters who did the training and ran the calls. This is now changed to include all the volunteers in the fire department who participate, including the bingo staff, the barbecue chicken staff. Anybody that volunteers for that fire department that has so much time into it will receive a credit. Yeah, that's a meets or exceeds 75 hours. And it's it's like I say, there are different levels that the firefighters are, but still recognizing that

they're as needed as anybody without the fundraising. Okay. I just I didn't just any volunteers for we did have an ordinance on this, but now you're including everybody. So that's Yes. This is something the fire company asked for and council agrees that it makes sense. May I have a roll call vote for ordinance 960 volunteer tax credit? There was motion by council buyers, seconded by council. Buyers, yes. Council person,

yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Three in one night. Boy, that feels good. Sure does. You guys did a wonderful job. Thank you. Thank you, too. The two legit leads and staff involved.

Um, consider approval of the Columbia Burrow participating with the DCED, a community technical assistance program. have my thoughts. Um, Mary, you you don't you're aware of what's going on. I mean, I read I read what it says, but I kind of just wanted a personal touch. Thank you, Larry.

Okay. No, I I'm just speaking as a member of planning commission at this point, right? Because I'm no longer but um let me back up. I think it was March that we had a gentleman from DCED who made a presentation to planning commission on this program, right?

And he came back to us in that had to be February. came back to us the next month with the uh s so the statement of work and we refined that a bit from what he had initially presented and in order to move this forward. Unfortunately, we did not have a planning commission meeting this month to review this, but this was sent out to all members to make comment on even prior to our main meeting. And what we're looking at is that they will provide us with so many hours of technical assistance. And what we honed in on was, as you know, we've been trying to redo our zoning to downsize our number of zoning districts from 17 to 7. Um, we would be looking at, as the so states, the different areas, the uh ADUs, ADUs are accessory dwelling units. And um these were the things that planning commission felt were things that they would be able to assist us with to move some of to move our projects as a planning commission forward. So if there's anything more I can tell you, I think it's a program that would benefit us. It's providing us with assistance we don't have to pay for.

Yeah. 400 hours.

You know, if if we did not have this, I'm sorry, Derek, but we we we were using Jess with his firm to help us with some of this. And uh I think this is giving us even a little more than what county planning can give us. So, we would really like to be able to proceed with this. And they um kind of put the pro pushed the project schedule back because they were hoping to be able to start this in April, but you know, with the way calendars went and getting documents back and forth, were I guess pushing it back a month to be able to work on it. I don't know if there's anything else I can clarify for you. Yeah, I believe that covers the general points.

That's what I All righty. Along with this, Mary, will you guys be um updating the table permitted uses for the zoning districts? Because obviously I think there's going to be some of that needed if you're That's going to be part of it as far as I know. As far as I know. Okay. It would be nice. I think it brings some common input from what what other places are doing too, especially with ADUs and all that kind of stuff. And and uh we've looked at simplified zoning is one of the other things we've been looking at. We've been looking at a number of things and with simplified zoning, you don't have tables of permitted uses.

No, you don't. You have and that's very scary. Scary. Yeah. So, okay. Thank you, Mary. Well, you can do like a hybrid though, right? You can do a hybrid, right? But that's we'll we'll get to that. We'll get a bit too progressive there. Yeah. Right now, we want to get through this. Okay. And they're they're going to be working with you guys until October 30th, correct? Yes. All right. Thank you. And there's there's an outline there of meetings that will be happening. Yep. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Mary. Thank you,

President Kaufman. If it if it helps clear the air with Mary and I, I 100% support this program and recommend you guys pursue it. It's a great program and a great opportunity. Happy to help if needed, but absolutely take advantage of this. I have no concerns. I appreciate that though, Mary, but please pursue this. He's just saying that to protect himself.

I'm not. If anything, I'm saying, hey, no, it's a I seriously, we've seen this program in other municipalities. DCED is a fantastic resource um for you all to use. And if you have this opportunity and can take it um you know, this is the next step to help implement your comp plan, which is a very daunting task. So any an expensive task. So any assistance you can get, please consider it team. Yeah. So are we making a motion to accept this or yes to approve we're participating with it.

Borrow participating with DC. I'm making motion to participate.

I'll second it. I have a motion by Councilman Cooper, second by Councilman Byers to approve Columbia Burough participating with DC ED in community technical assistance program. Any other questions or concerns? All in favor say I. I. Consider approval of special event application for the Clifford Evan basketball tournament at Miko Park on June 6 and June 7th, 2026 from 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. This is a reoccurring event. They get scholarships for this um and I believe

they requested the fee to be waved. Yeah. Because of the scholarships.

Okay. So we put that motion in. I make a motion that we uh approve the special event for the Clifford Edward basketball tournament at Mickel Park on the given dates and also wave that application fee. Second by a motion by Councilman Ziggler, second by Councilman Easy to approve the special event application for Clifford Edmond basketball tournament at MO Park on June 6th and June 7th. Today is 8:00 a.m. to 900 p.m. and wave the application fees.

All in favor say I. I. I. Consider approval of special event application for Mante Cornhole Tournament at Columbombia Crossings River Trail Center on June 18th, 2026. Now, what I did, let's see, is this inside or outside? In the grassy area. Yeah. So using the grass area between the building and the river and Yeah. They're going to have food in the building. Food in the building. Yeah. Okay. And Susan National here just approved it. Yep.

Right.

Good evening everyone. Uh my name is Andrew Lane. I work with Mante. We are a 501c3 state and federally funded nonprofit organization that is a resource to small to medium-siz manufacturers here in South Central Pennsylvania. Um, a colleague and myself developed what's called the Young Manufacturers Network about 18 months ago to help develop, mentor, serve, and support that next generation of upandcoming manufacturing leaders. Um, we decided we want to we wanted to host a fundraising event. So, the idea was to have this cornhole tournament. um partnering with uh Columbia Crossing building, serving food and beverages and then having the tournament outside in the grass area beside um Columbia Crossing.

Where are you going to be doing that? Are you going to be doing it on the side? Are you going to go up or over? I think over depending on the amount of space. So, ideally we're looking at about 30 teams. So, roughly about 60 participants. Um, ideally we'd have about seven to 10 boards. It would take probably 4 pm to about 8:30 is what we're thinking from time frame. Um, but yeah, I've been to the building twice and I'm trying to remember the layout, but Yeah. Yeah. Right beside kind of in front of where the little pavilion. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just kind of wondered because it's going slopes down.

Yeah. So, I just wondered how that would work out for him. Well, he'll pick his favorite teams and put them on the Some people like to throw up hills, some like throw it out. So, shooters choice, I guess. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any other questions? Make a motion to approve the special event application.

A second. I have a motion to approve the special event application for manag cornal tournament at Columbia Crossing River Trail Center on June 18th, 2026 by Councilman Buyer. Second by Councilman Cooper. All in favor say I. I. Consider approval of special event application for fireman's parade on June 6, 2026 from 2 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. Yes.

I make a motion that we approve that u application for the fireman's parade on the dates and times given. I'll make a second. I have a motion by Councilman Ziggler, second by Councilman Yeezy to approve the special event application for the fireman's parade on June 6, 2026 from 2 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. Um, you want to comment on that? Any adjustments to that? But after after the break, you want to talk about that at all? May I ask a question? Sure.

What What shape is the 300 block of union going to be in at that point? It's going to look like it does now because we talked to the Okay. And they're not going to start until after. Okay. Thank you. That'd be an interesting parade. Thank you. Taken care of just just for advertising sake. And no, we still have not heard anything from Lancaster City about Manor Street. Well, they're gonna have to wait then.

Um, so June 6th, I believe it's a two o'clock start for the parade. Uh, we hope to have a good turnout from different uh fire companies in uh in Laner County. We are drawing some antique fire trucks from outside of the county. Um, and I think maybe there even some other fire companies outside of the county as well. Uh there will be well the plan is to have food vendors on the street during the parade and then after the parade we're planning a community event and I believe uh that's where the um trophies will be given out um at Gladfelders. I believe the start time Leslie somewhere around 4:30.

Uh that should go after the parade. After the parade and we will have a ton of food trucks there, we will have a um kids area where they'll have some different inflatable type uh things they can climb on and jump on and some fire helmets and things like that. So cool. Should be a great event. Uh hopefully we can uh kick off the festivities for the Columbia 300. And um really the reason I wanted to come up was to ask if there was a uh application fee. And

I was just going to make amendments to my uh council president if I can make an amendment to my motion. I'd like to wave any application fee if wasn't provided. Yeah. Yeah. Come on up to the mic. How many planers? So, I think the original idea was to have four and I believe one or two of them will be at the firehouse. Okay.

Um it's not like we'll have a bunch of food trucks all along. The only reason I'm saying that is because it is a crazy day like and of course it's a Saturday business. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't know the exact details. I think it will be limited. A majority of the food trucks will be at the event after glad. Thank you. Any other questions, concerns?

I have a motion by Councilman Ziggler, second by Councilman Gezy to approve the special event application for the fire parade on June 6, 2026 from 2 p.m. till 8:00 p.m. And council will wave the fees for the application. All in favor say I. I. Hi. Hi, S.

At this time, I'd like to call council to executive session to discuss some personnel issues. Um, this will only be a couple minutes. Just I lost mine. See contract. Well, I see.

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Victory. It's all there. All right, let's bring regular meeting back to order. Considerate promotion of Holly Art to chief of police effective May 1st, 2026 at a pay rate of 123497 per year contingent upon signing of the employee agreement.

I'll make a motion.

A second. I have a motion by Councilman Geizy, second by Councilman Cooper to approve the promotion of Holly Art to Chief of Police of Columbia Burrow effective May 1st, 2026 at a s annual salary of 123,000. 497 contingent upon signing of employee agreement. All in favor say I.

I. I. Congratulations. OH, this time I'd like to do the squaring. Um, hey, can you hold on a second? Yes. Where's We need a camera person.

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duties of my office. Your dad would be proud.

Welcome back, Chief. This is a part of about two years work that uh Chief Brummer has undertaken knowing that here in the near future. Uh we were going to have up to five officers retiring and there needed to be a secession plan for that. uh also including Chief Drummer. Uh through that period of time with the help of our civil service commission um and Burough Council by allowing uh the us to hire some officers to cover those gaps and even try to get ahead of those officers retiring so that our force did drop down too far. Uh we were able to do a lot of that and and a lot of that goes to the civil service commission moving things the way they did uh the hours that they put in with the testing procedures and I think they come up with uh some wonderful officers even though the applicant pool was not great because there's such a demand throughout not only the county but Pennsylvania and elsewhere uh for police officers at this time. But those officers that ultimately passed and were hired uh met the standards and they we probably wouldn't have wanted anyone different than those officers that the civil service commission come up with. Uh so as we did that there was also some changes in the in the manning and and the structure of the police department and as you know we're going for certification and Chief Art was going to is going to have a a job there working in finishing off that certification and she knows that's one of her she has expressed that that's one of her

priorities so that Columbia Burough can be a certified police department. So it's going to be a busy year or two till we finally get up to full staff. We have an officer that will graduate in June. End of June. Yes.

And one officer hopefully that will start around that time. So, we're continuing on that plan. We haven't completed the whole plan. Don't know if we're ever going to complete the whole plan because of the way people retire and even things like that there. But, we're going to be in a better better position here in the near future. So, uh it was a lot of work for a lot of people and I thank everybody involved in that. And obviously uh Chief Art uh I want to congratulate her uh on the work she done. You know as we went through this plan, Chief Art took it upon herself a lot of times to seek education and to broaden her education uh on on policing and and management of of police department. So, uh I I really appreciate that she took that initiative and that's one of the things that we saw uh that initiative that we saw that she was taking uh that put her in the position she's in today that we knew that she wanted the job. She was willing to go that extra mile to become qualified to be able to do that job. And I think over the past several months, uh, she has shown that she is adequately able to pick up, uh, and fill a big hole that Chief Brummer is going to leave, but he's just going to go across the across the building to another office hopefully for a while. And, um, I think Plumby B is gonna be better off at the end. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Um, action item nine. Jay, you can just delete that off the agenda. That was covered in the previous motion. Okay. Consider increasing the DCNR grant amounts to $250,000 for climate crossings project. You want to speak about that, Derek?

Yes. Uh this agenda item is not nearly as exciting as your last one, but congratulations, Chief. Um so in the last month, uh since I was in front of you to get the resolution, uh approved to seek this grant, we've had additional conversation with staff at Columbia Crossing and we've also had a very good meeting with the DCNR representatives and the analysts. Um what they recommended is we take a harder look at the facility itself and see what enhancements we could justify making to the facility that would stretch the grant dollars further um and really provide uh provide a lot of benefit down there. Not just kind of fixing what we have, but seeing what we can improve. Um, so as some of you know, I've been working very hard on a facilities feasibility study, which we weren't 100% sure we needed to do as part of this, but we did. It ended up being a pretty comprehensive report. Um, and it actually unveiled some things that are going to benefit the site. Uh, so out of everything that we talked about, the number one thing that we identified that would enhance the site is the ability to host larger events. Um, and this is geared mostly towards schools. Uh, according to both Hope and Megan, there have been numerous occasions where they've had to turn schools down who have wanted to use the facility as a classroom because unfortunately the capacity of the building does not allow for that. So, we have a capacity rating for the inside where the exhibit space is. We also have a capacity for the um you know for the outside uh for the outside Riverview deck area. So what we discussed is if we found a way to make those spaces more cohesive um that it would give the ability for the facility

to host larger events where you could kind of spill from the exhibit area from inside the building out onto the to the deck area. Uh so what we came up with is for any of you that have been down there, uh if you're if you're in the exhibit area, there's a pretty big stone wall that separates the inside of the building from uh from the deck. And number one, those are the best views. So it is kind of different when you're in the building. You can't even really see the river. Um but that's the piece that wall is what's preventing those two spaces from being cohesive. So, what we've come up with is a sketch plan that would eliminate that wall and replace it with a set of double uh glass doors. Um, we haven't settled in on exactly what the design would be. They could be accordion style, they could be sliders, they could be two big doors that we kind of open and push them out of the way. But the idea behind it is these are doors not really to be used by the public. These will be closed and locked and just opened by the staff at the building when warranted that they would be needed. Uh we've done a preliminary structural evaluation and we believe we can make the doors work with the existing framing that's there. Uh we have basically two columns. We have a set of three columns. There's going to be a column in the middle. So you'd have two basically six foot wide openings in retaining that center column. Once we get into the design, if this is funded, we may be able to eliminate that middle column with some with a lentil or yeah, we have to we would have to design a lentil across there and we would have to analyze the existing columns and also the how the they're tied into the existing foundation to see if that's feasible. I haven't done that yet. Just kind of not let's not take it off the table. we may be able to do it, but the path of least resistance and the most economical option will be to leave all the structural members that exist and we

work around them. But that's kind of the marquee improvement uh that we discussed. Uh the staff down at Columbia Crossings were ecstatic. Um mayor was with me. Uh we we kind of all agreed that it would be a a really nice enhancement to that building. Um so with that improvement um and a couple of other things we came up with where we would probably increase the ADA parking. We get we get extra credit in our grant for ADA accommodations. And the other ADA accommodation we discussed is the columns. Uh the columns are the vertical pieces. The columns that surround the uh roof over the deck. They're currently wrapped in a stone veneer. And that's honestly most of what led to the deterioration of those columns was the moisture being trapped inside those that stone veneer. The staff provided us feedback that with how wide those are, it is actually a challenge if you are in a wheelchair or need the assistance of a walker, it is a challenge to get around out there because the clearances are really tight. Uh so in addressing some of the issues with the wooden columns, we discussed replacing those with a kind of a black painted metal column, leaving the stone and leaving the stone veneer off. Um I think it would be a cost-effective way to address the the column issue that we have down there and it would provide additional clearance around those to make it easier to move around. Um, so I wanted again wanted to throw that all out here to the council and public uh receive any feedback that you all have on on those proposals. And ultimately when we looked at the cost estimate, we we believe that this takes this project to more of a $500,000 project than a $400,000 project with the doors going in. So, we're asking for you

to increase that that ask from instead of 200, we recommend you ask for 250 with another 50% match of the of the 250. And that should give you more than enough budget to get this done. Sorry, that was a lot.

During the meeting, it was during the meeting, it was surprising that the engineer from DCNR that was there basically suggested some of the some of the improvements or went along with some of the improvements. He was very enthusiastic and offered a lot of uh tips to assist us in in securing the grant. You know, we all know that that Columbia Crossing, that building means a lot to DCNR and it means a lot to Columbia Burough. So, we felt very comfortable with it and it was probably one of the better meetings I've had with DCNR. when you're asking for funding. I I feel pretty I feel pretty strong that uh we're on the right track and that we have, as Derek put it, enough enhancements, and I'll use that word enhancements added into that grant to help us be successful.

Can we use CPBG money for our match? Yes, that sounds pretty good to me. That was my main concern. federal funds. So, correct, you can match state and federal. You can I know it's very pre preliminary, but do they have an idea time frame uh that the construction will be taking place during the primary I guess the window situation? So, I guess the um the grants are due in two days.

Yes. So, the grants due the grants due April 30th. just about ready to hit the trigger uh on that one. We won't find out about the grant money until probably into the fall. Um so really I'm scoping this out to be like a like yeah could be a could be an early 27 kind of spring of 27 project. Um I do have some information on the CDBG grant as well that I'll share. Are the going to be okay for that length of time? We we believe so. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean we weren't planning to do them till 27 anyway

because we were waiting to hear if we got the next round of LSA. Yeah. Which I don't think we will for that building. But Sure. This is I think we have a better chance to get the DCNR than the LS8. the the the corner the corner columns that you see on the on corners, they'll remain wrapped in the stone veneer. Correct. So that when you look at the facade, it won't look any different. So it'll be rather the heads. You won't see steel painted black. Painted black. Yeah. You'll still you'll still see uh the brick veneer. Just the ones in the middle.

Any Yeah. any of the columns incorporated into the actual structure of the building will get the stone veneer put back and anything on the front of the building. So, we don't want to change the aesthetics of the front of the building, those will get rewrapped as well. Um the the beams we look so those are the horizontal pieces. We are looking to replace the beams with a with a glue laminated a similar material that we're taking out. Um that'll that's the easiest way to tie that back into the building. It'll also aesthetically keep what you're looking at. Now, when we use those, we will modify the connection pieces so that we don't have the same issue that we have now. Yep.

Just one question. Where was you, Derek, when we built this building? Where was I? Um, at at the time at the time I was attending your planning commission meetings by invitation maybe once or twice a year. You was never considered for this. I was not involved with that building at all. No, we we were that that building I believe um I won't I won't say who was on that building, but the burrow had another contract with a different engineer to design and construct that building. Okay. Okay,

we my my only involvement with it again I'm maybe around 20 2017 Mary you've known better than me uh we were brought in my structural engineer team was brought in when the wall was installed. So after the building was constructed and the burrow added that center partition wall my firm did that the interior work but other than that we weren't involved with the construction building. Okay. Between you and the attorney, is there a rule of thumb in going back after these people that give us this shoddy work? You want me to? I I will I will. Yes, I will pass that to you.

Okay. Um happily I can tell you that we have looked into that and I think Kelly as you mentioned the statute of limitations is really probably gone on that although you could look at the discovery rule. There's some other things that you could look at, but the real problem is is that we don't know who is responsible for those um for the uh for the the assembly the the connection pieces that have caused this issue. Um the the asbuilt plans are not great. I will just tell you that. Um they're not what you would expect. But yeah,

we got smart people. I can't believe that somebody can't figure this out. You know, I just it's a shame. It's a matter of the Frank, it's a matter of the documents existing. So, it's it it's no uh it's no slight on the smart people that we have now. It's we have to piece together what happened in 20145 and we have all scoured the documents. Yeah. um they just don't exist in any form that would allow us to to reasonably go back after someone. Trust me, if we could, I promise you that we would.

It's just a shame. Thank you. Yes, Sean.

I was unprepared for this question, so it's going to be all over the place. But I think the council back then did take a vote to have that company and I won't say their name right now, but have that company brought back to re-evaluate the situation, but we were unable to find what the outcome of that was and and we did have to pay I think it was Burough Manager Sausski who was in charge at the time and I think he negotiated the price down um for this re-evaluation, but we paid I think several thousand dollars for that, but we can't find what the outcome of that report would have been. I I don't know where to look for that.

So, I'm just saying are you are you talking a structural evaluation? Yeah, I think so. I think that's what it was. Yeah, I learn exact details. Yes. Yeah. And I just wondered if we actually in fact paid for that report, where is it? You know, we'd like to see it just to see what they said because if you paid several thousand for something, you certainly hope it is is exists somewhere. I I was I just wanted to throw that out there. Thank you. When that was, Sharon, I'm sorry. Do you know when that was?

I had the date, but I I can give you even the um minutes because I think it would have been in the minutes. Am I wrong about that, Bill? See, wasn't it in the minutes about the Yeah, the But I mean, it would have been in the burrow minutes about that. Yeah, that's where we found it. And anyway, so um we can get you the date of the minutes, but it's just odd that council would have voted to proceed on a report, you know, and then without getting results. We don't know where they are. They might have gotten results, but you can't I don't know where to look for them.

Was that before or after the building opened? I think it was. So, that's the issue. Okay. What's it?

If I would have known I was going to be talking about this, I would have brought my notes. Sorry. So what we've again what we've run into with complications is yes there was a prime engineer an architect there were others brought on to the project at various times and by the end of the construction there wasn't a there wasn't adequate asbuilt or basically documentation that whoever ran it through construction did not provide those certifications that yes this was built and we put our professional seal behind it, but we also don't have adequate information to hold the original person responsible because they were basically kicked off the job.

Okay. So that what you bring up does not surprise me and it actually kind of gives credence to what we're saying is there was there was a path in a project team. There was a from what we can decipher there was a change made. Whenever that change was made, it kind of broke the the chain of responsibility for when that building was built and and who oversaw it and who's professionally responsible for it. The documentation that we can't find is anything related to the final approval like the final approvals of those buildings, the approval of the materials and connections that were made down there. We don't have it. Okay. So

um well and it has been a long time but it has been um in my in my and you might be able to help me with this. In my research I believe document retention is seven years for for engineers. So um you know we did our best to you know I I have record where we've made requests to all parties involved

and we've been provided what the the second party provided us nothing. Um, so basically what we have is what we have. Um, I've been unable to acquire any additional information from anybody on it. Um and really it's been a an ongoing discussion with the solicitor and you know council and staff that you know at this point we can we can kind of keep trying to chase this but the chances are minimal that we will have enough built that we would have a strong enough case to spend the money to pursue this and actually get made whole or close. Right. Yeah.

So that's really why you saw us pivot in the last year to looking for grant funding to help pay for some of this and fix it. And that's been the course that we've been going on now. Okay. Thank you for explaining. Absolutely.

D, I have a question for you. Sure. I may have just misunderstood what you said. Sure. Um, this is increase the amount by 250. No, no, no. So, just increased by 50,000. So, you're sorry, your last Yeah, your last um approval was for 200. I'm asking for 250. And that would be 50% match on a $500,000 total project.

Can I get a motion to increase the DC&R grant amount to $250,000 for Columbia Crossing project? Second. I have a motion by Councilman Cooper, second by Councilman Murphy to increase the DCNR grant amount to $250,000 for the Columbia Crossing project. All in favor say I.

I. if if I could while I kind of have the floor here. Um, with with the grant application again, any feedback we receive could positively help us. So, if anybody What do you guys think of that proposal? Is everybody in favor of the door? Any yay nay? We love it. Absolutely. Any anything I can put in the Hey, that's been presented to the public. It was received positively. So, if anybody hates it, feel free to tell me that, too. But It would be good to bring in full classes of kids. Sure. How many kids does it hold now? How many people? Oh, that's a good one. If Hope was here, she or Hope or Megan were here, they'd tell you. Yeah.

Um I had that information. I feel like it's like 75 inside, I think. Yeah. 74 sticks in my head. So, what were they trying to bring in three classes at once or something? See, that's Yeah, that's for like a wave, right? you bring classes in, you have a different seating structure. Right. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Typically when for example like canoe mobile, they'll bring 100 kids in there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm glad you put the metal poles in there. Seriously, that'll Yeah.

make a lot of people feel a lot easier about that. So the stats are I can tell you the stats are that if we can cohesively use the spaces they expect to be able to accommodate uh up up to almost 150 people is potentially more than 150. Right now they have to limit program size to 75 to 80 participants. Okay. We'd like to go from Yeah. 80 to 150. Okay. Thank you. Y Mr. Gable, I do not have anything for those comments. I'm afraid to ask. So you know we're on

Good evening everyone.

Um I do have one quick thing on the CDBG program for this year. We were just notified last week that the application round is open. Black Friday to be specific is when the correspondence came through that the 2026 funding ground is open. Um if we are interested in submitting a CDBG fund, our letter of intent is due by May 1st and the full application is due May 29th. Um so it is a very quick quick quick turnaround this year. Um so I did request the ability to submit a letter of intent on behalf of the bureau. Um, I haven't received an email back from that today. That was on that was yesterday. I did. I haven't heard anything back on that.

Is that something we have to vote on? Um, the letter of intent is not as the letter of intent is basically we have an idea. Okay. It doesn't it it would be nice, but it doesn't really commit you to anything. Um, it's the submission for the actual grant is what commits you. So, there's a resolution for that.

Um, so I took it upon myself to say, "Hey, we're interested. send us a letter of intent in the next month, we can game out a a project and make a formal um approval for a resolution. The concern I have and what I'm waiting to hear from the the county on again this kind of took us by surprise. They changed the rules on us and they are saying that to be eligible for funding this year that our project from last year has to not only be under construction but actually already have a draw from our contractor. That's different than last year's rules where we only had to have the project awarded. So it's a pretty significant change that we just found out about on Friday. Um,

so I am I have requested a meeting with um Langster County Housing and Redevelopment Authority to talk through some of these changes and see what kind of flexibility we may be able to build in for this year since this was pretty, you know, Union Street. It's the 300 block of Union Street is our 2025 project. We can we can we can justify that. Sure. 300.

Sure. Sure. We're well. We're well awarded. Everything's ready to go. I understand that the county is concerned about awarding money and the money not being used. Um, and I fully support that, but we just needed to be aware. The other piece that they threw in is that all money awarded in 26 needs to be spent by the end of January and 27. That's also not feasible for a curbon sidewalk project that wouldn't commence design until July. That's not feasible. So, um, we'll see what I can do, but thanks D.

Well, really, if they if they insist on those those requirements, there's not going to be any municipality in Langster County that's going to be eligible for a CDBG project, right? They don't pay in December, right? Thank you. Thank you all. Burough Major Brahmer

to kick off the Earth Day celebration uh in our community. Last Friday, the burrow hosted its annual cleanup day. Uh and I will say and would like to extend our sincere appreciation to all of the volunteers, the staff members, uh the trash haulers, goods and pen waste picked up close to 45 items around the community. uh park rangers uh did wonderful work once again uh students from the Hill campus, Taylor Park. So it was a tremendous day. All total we collected 1.2 tons of trash and metal. So very impressive.

Thank you. That was a wonderful day Friday. It was boards, commissions, and committees upcoming meetings. Zoning hearing board April 29th, 2026, I have a question about that. Yes. It looks like the same thing that we that went before zoning hearing in December is going before them again. The church different, isn't it? Is it different?

Okay. Yeah. Oh, it's in the row. Okay. I was like, why are they going back double dipping? But okay. Yeah, I didn't look back. Thank you. Minutes approved still in service February 2nd, 2026 and March 10th, 2026. Burrow council comments. We'll start with Councilman Ziggler.

I'd just like to extend my congratulations to Chief Bar and also uh Corporal Cop. Congratulations. I'm sure you're going to do a fine job. Thank you.

Uh same thing as well. Congratulations on your promotion. Well earned, welld deserved. I just want to make just one quick comment because I was at the meeting. I showed Lee actually some information I had found. But this issue with the ebikes is getting really serious. I'm just being honest with you. Um one the two things that we had talked about was number one is that that commonality whatever we put in place in the burrow I like to see it, you know, we need to make sure it's applicable to the trail. It's and it's not going to be like we're asking for ABC D and West Enfield's going to ask for HJI and Q and and you know it's like nothing makes sense. They kind of have to line with each other. And if you want to look for some information on how serious a new state of New Jersey is really hitting this hard and there are some serious fines with it and they'll confiscate you confiscate your ebike and everything. So

there's a lot going on. Lancaster city is doing the same thing. be able to uh you can seize and then forfeit those ebikes that are involved in violations. Not that I'd like to see it now. The county gets those. Yeah, you right. Well, I've seen I' I've I've been victim of many near misses already from kids just flying through an intersection and honestly, you never even seen them till they were there. Where in the heck did this guy come from?

I'm just gonna echo the same thing. Congratulations. Um and Eric, I did talk to Jack about the May 5th meeting and he's going to look into that. Okay. About moving it. Yes. Oh, because we do have an event at the market house. Yes. We can't do that. So, he's gonna look into something else. All right. Uh other

um well no one has said it yet so I don't want you to think I'm not congratulating so congratulations but no one has said this yet. I just want to thank Jack for his years of service as the uh police chief. This is his last official meeting as not retired Chief Braomemer and interim burough manager. So, I just wanted to um thank Jack for his years service as chief and uh hopefully we'll have several more as burough manager. So, congratulations on your change of status as well.

Thank you. Jesse,

now's our time for comments, but go ahead.

We were kind of waiting for this earlier, but this one is is also directed towards Chief Arnold. Um, we we wrote this today for you, Holly. Um, it's my great privilege to congratulate Holly Art on her new role as police chief of the Columbia Burough Police Department. Lieutenant Arn's journey in public safety began in 2004 when she entered the field through corrections before moving on to serve with the county sheriff's office. In 2008, she joined the Columbia Burough Police Department, being a new career marked by commitment, courage, and continuous professional growth. Over the years, she has become known only or not only for her skill as a patrol officer also, but also for her leadership in training and specialized operations. She developed the department's directive tactics program, served on county crash and forenses teams, and trained nude field officers, helping shape the next generation of Columbia's law enforcement professionals. Her dedication to excellence is reflected in her advanced leadership training, including coursework through the FBI National Academy, a Penn State leadership series, and her plan attendance at Northwestern University School Police Staff and Command. In 2025, Lieutenant Art made history as Columbia's first female lieutenant, a moment celebrated by the department in the community. And now, as she steps into the role of police chief, she stands poised to make history once again, continuing to break barriers and set new standards for leadership in Columbia Burough. Her service has not only been defined by leadership, but also by bravery. In March 2025, Lieutenant Art alongside with fellow officers received a life saving commendation for rescuing a woman in crisis on the Columbia Riceville Bridge. An act that demonstrated her calm, order, pressure, compassion, and unwavering commitment to protecting life. Today, we honor not just a promotion, but a legacy in the making. Holly has shown what it means to serve with heart, to lead with integrity, and

to believe deeply in the communities she protects. Chief Art, on behalf of the Columbia Burough residents, and Columbia PA online, we congratulate you. We thank you for your service, your leadership, and your example. And we look forward to the future you will help shape, one defined by professionalism, progress, and a continued commitment to the safety and well-being of every citizen. Thank you. You're welcome. I get to follow that. You can clap for YouTube, too.

Well, I was going to say thank you to Jack and thank you for working the last six months or so as a interim doing both jobs. I think you handled it great and um I'm very happy that you don't have to do it anymore. Um, and congratulations, Holly. Um, I would like to say that the homeless group is going to meet on May 21st at 3:30 here. So, um, if anybody wants to come, it's an open meeting and you're welcome.

You said it again. for the homeless shelter and that's um May 21st here at 3:30. Please make sure that not more of than three burough council members are there. Yep. Okay, that

Yeah. Um thank you and congratulations to both of you. I'm not going to keep going with that. Uh, I just wanted to say really quickly, um, uh, like what, uh, Jack said, uh, the cleanup day was excellent. Um, I specifically want to thank, uh, Caroline and Marty from the, uh, Columbia, uh, park rangers. They were, they worked with myself and my husband while we were out there doing the cleanup. Uh, learned a lot about what they did. And also just, you know, if anyone is interested in joining them, it seems like a really cool thing to just go out, you know, every couple of weeks and clean up, put down mulch, uh, take care of the the trees and the environment here in Colombia. In fact, I think I saw some of them while I was driving up at the small park. Yeah. Right across from where Vortex Comics was. Um,

yeah, just working all the time. So, uh just love to see it and happy to uh got to participate on uh with that on Friday. Um and then the only other thing is I'm going to be in Philadelphia this weekend doing a uh training academy put on by a couple different organizations uh in PA. I think it's uh what is it? Lead PA, uh Local Progress, and some other group. I can't remember, but they're doing an academy training for two days in Philadelphia that I am going to be attending and they'll be talking about a bunch of different local issues and ways that we can make improvements into in you know our mun municipalities. So that should be fun. I'll bring some more of that information along with the parking stuff from the webinar to the next workshop meeting.

Thank you.

First Holly, congratulations. look forward to uh working with you, Jack. Congratulations for your many years of service. The day begins. Make it right. Thank you. Um I was asked to make an announcement that the Columbia Burough website www.coliapa.net net will be down Monday May 4th through Thursday May 7th. For agendas, minutes, and ordinances, please go to https colmcode360.com/go213.

Absolutely. It will also be posted uh by on crime watch and a couple other social media places. So, exactly. Our website's going to be down for maintenance. Yep. Um again, May 8th is the bike rodeo. May second. May, excuse me. This Saturday. This Saturday, the second. This Saturday, the police department, parks and wreck be down at the River Park. River Park was at SNH as well. What time is it? 11:00 it starts. We do a bike rodeo. It'll be

pedal bike, pedal electric bike, electric bike, electric scooter. They're going to have helmets to give away. They're going to have uh lights, lights, stickers, water bottles, all kinds of stuff, and some speeches by different law enforcement and training people, I believe. I think some bike shops and some bike shops will be there. Yes. So, that'd be a good event. Um, can I get a motion for German? Second.

A motion by Councilman Gizy, second by Councilman Buyers to adjourn this meeting. All in favor say I. I have a bad day. I just think I need Listen.