Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, May 8, 2025
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Government Body
Planning Board
Meeting Type
Planning Board
Location
Coldspring, NY
Meeting Date
May 8, 2025

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26 sections

0:19 – 2:170

Well, thank you. All right, I'll call this meeting um of the planning board of village cold spring to order. Um I would like to propose um a modification to the agenda. um where uh actually two modifications. Um one that we add uh 47 carrots to the agenda and that we move it up in front of our minutes so that our guests can only be here for a little bit of time. Can you get a second? I second it. All in favor? I Okay, great. All right, you have the floor. Oh, thank you. Um, you know, I know Ethan was planning to attend, so he may be perhaps better spoken at some of the stuff we had, but I I think largely Well, I'll leave it to you. We can wait for him. Y or and we can proceed with some of our stuff or or we can try to get through it with you. We can try to get through um mostly just around questions for clarity on where we're at. I feel like we've had Yeah. difficulty um understanding that part of the process and I think there was aspects to the conditional approval. Yeah. That we feel like were added post the conditional approval at the meeting. Um namely the conditional approval around what was necessary with the sewer inspection. Um we that wasn't discussed at the meeting. Um and now seems to be a big part of what we're waiting for. We know the test results have been in. We haven't heard anything for weeks. Um, and we have the exact resolution language floating around. Um, I can check it. Yeah, that would be great. And, um, so I can read some of these

2:15 – 4:150

questions that Ethan and I pulled out. Um although I recognize they may not be prepared to answer here but some are around specific aspects of the sewer results than what I I can say that um a thing that uh we've tried to make clear to the village that Jonathan clarified the village attorney to Greg and the mayor and I think I think it got passed back to Ian but Ethan but maybe perhaps not is that Um because the the we did an expedited site plan review which is the the the scope of what review is for um for the ADU which is it's a it's a it's basically it's like there's a smaller set of things that we can consider. The sewer is not one of them that we're allowed to consider. Um, so the note the kind of the note about the sewer, yeah, was really meant was really meant to be a nod to uh along with all the other things was meant to be a nod of like here here are uh here are are things that came to our attention over the course of hearing this. We're not make we're not making any conditions about the specifics of what's going on with the sewer. That's not in our purview to make those determinations. But we're going to add we're basically just going to say, "Hey, if the if the building inspector feels okay about uh about these details, yeah, this board is satisfied." It really meant it clearly did not work the way that I that I had hoped it would. the the intent was to move our board out of your way as quick like given given we had gotten to I think an acceptable uh state on the site plan and basically

4:11 – 6:110

say look we're okay as long as the the these small details around square footage or whatever like are if the building inspector is okay with it then this board is okay with it and um so that was that was really meant to be our our If the building inspector felt like a determination from Matt Krug was important for him to feel comfortable, that's that is that's his decision and not ours. Um and uh so because we again the the actual like the details of the sewer are not really in our purview and like um for this particular kind of review. So um where are you now with you said that the survey has already been done right? Yes. So we did a private one in in the fall and and I think very quickly and eagerly shared the results with everyone. Yeah. No flags were raised though I understand that the ser is not in the interview so maybe you wouldn't be the ones to raise flags. Yeah. I it's our understanding that I think because of this lengthy process the village took upon itself to then also do a survey of the sewer. From what we know, the results have been in for some weeks, but we haven't had access to them. Yeah. It's interesting because I think that that action by the sewer by the village Yeah. was related to your application only tangentially in in in so far as like the village was like the, you know, basically Paris Street neighbors were like, "Hey, we're worried about this." Yeah. I passed it along to the village board. The mayor said, "Okay, well, we'll take a closer look to make sure." But that is like a kind of a almost like a separate adventure from from this. And so I guess there's a question of just like I guess yeah it's our question too because the sense that we're getting is that it's no longer a separate adventure and feels directly tied or conditional. So

6:08 – 8:080

it seems like whoever and seems like we're a bit at the mercy of the building inspector seems to be waiting to make a determination based on this whether we are fully approved or not. But also when we've asked these questions, we haven't had clarity on them. Yeah, understood. Um, and then this is perhaps neither here nor there, but you know, this was a lengthy process with the board and we know everyone was very patient with it. In the meantime, we've also experienced some like additional hostility. I would say from one of our neighbors who works for the village. So, while I'm not prone to conspiratorial thinking, I do you can understand why I see a correlation. Understood. Yeah. Uh, well, I'm sorry. the additional conflict there. That's that's really hard. Uh all right. So I see the the conditions we put in here. So these are the conditions we put in there. Pay the fees. That's normal boiler plate. Uh we've got submit the plans, sign and stamps. Normal boiler plate. Uh we gave notes about the proposed windows. Yep. Uh so that was an additional requirement. We discussed that in the last meeting. Um, obtain all necessary approvals as may be determined by the building inspector. And then everything after that doesn't matter. Yeah, that's that is the that is the statement that matters. Obtain all necessary approvals as maybe determined the building inspector. If the building inspector says you don't need any additional approvals, you're good, then you're good. Yeah. Period. So, um, and then the the including but not limited to is like it's flavor text to kind of highlight the some of the some of the things that came up. Sure. During during the thing now, uh, if if Greg, the building inspector, is confused about that language. I can I don't know if we know what he's confused about. I'm sorry, I didn't I think we're just having trouble

8:05 – 10:050

getting understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So basically no one no one's willing to just put their foot down and say this is what it is or this is what we're waiting for. Yes. Okay. So um so this this this number four just so we're we're all very clear obtaining all necessary approvals as may be determined by the building inspector. So we're basically saying the building inspector gets to decide if the site plan is good. If it if given the state of everything that that is described and we know additional approvals are required y then that's the that's the route to pursue. If he says nope this looks good just let's go then you're also good. Okay. So, um I think all we're all we need from Greg is an assertion whether he feels like the site plan as proposed is acceptable. And if he says that it is forgetting any I mean again uh it's entirely up to him to determine whether or not uh the sewer and water square footage any of those details are are satisfactory. Sure. Um, again, we tried to put the wording so that we would get our board out of the way as best as possible. Yeah. Um, and uh, so uh, there is a thread that Greg is on that I think this was we tried we tried to emphasize this. Um, but maybe I can reference the language in particular. Okay. Yeah. And I appreciate it. I understand that perhaps like you saying you tried to get out of the way and I'm here again. I I know that it's a burden on whatever you're trying to achieve tonight in a normal meeting. No, no, no. I mean, no. What what I mean by getting out of the way, I mean for you like like like so you don't have to

10:03 – 12:010

keep coming here because the alternative was that uh we uh exhaustively ran down all all of the details that that we that were still a you know like potentially a little bit ambiguous in in the planning process which we didn't want to do because we felt like we had achieved all like generally all the things we wanted and the rest was like kind of the the exact details of how the building inspector would like to interpret uh you know that part of of the site plan. Yeah. So that's what I mean by getting out of the way. I mean like literally I didn't want to take more of your time. Sure. Because uh as a homeowner in the village and someone who would also like to do projects effectively within the village, I don't want those projects to take eight months to do. Right. So, um, so yeah, I mean, I think I think that like if he truly is, if I'm understanding correctly, at this stage, it truly is in Greg's hands, and we just need clarity from him. Yeah. Basically, he just needs to say, I feel good about this. Okay. And if he does, then everything is fine. Has he signed off on the size? don't know. We I think it's a really around like a larger issue of clarity that we haven't had. Yeah. I guess since February at this Yeah. So, uh in terms of is there anything you feel like hasn't been communicated to Greg that we need to be more explicit about from your perspective? Um I mean definitely I think it was the fourth condition that you mentioned. Yeah, the fourth condition. Yeah. I think clarity on that would be helpful as to um not his role but what um he needs to do in order for this project to move

11:59 – 13:590

forward. With that being said, I've spoken to him over the phone and he even though it seems as though the sewer and the water and sewer report is not a part of the entire project, I think it's still something that he'd like to see. the the reason why it has not moved to the next stage because typically when we when there's something explicit on the resolution, we like to have it to make the application complete before bringing it to that final stage. So just to provide a little bit, you know, a light in the shadow, I guess, as to what's going on, right? I think that the the I think the it's the details are in the language where it's like number four mentions sewer, water, square footage, but the the preceding is basically makes those things as uh those are not those are not like those details are not required. Mhm. What's required is that the building inspector, it feels like all all um necessary approvals have been met. Oh, good. So, that's that's the that's the detail here that that is required. The specifics of uh like there's nothing in here that says that Greg needs to wait on approval about sewer or water or square footage because ultimately he's the one who's determining those things. So like unless for some reason he looks at this and like oh this is a big this is a big concern of mine and I don't feel comfortable with this project moving forward without this clarity then uh he can just say this project has already obtained all the necessary approvals including from me. Um so I can I can send an email clarifying the kind of interpretation on

13:55 – 15:540

number four. Uh, maybe I can CC you and Greg. And who else do you think would be useful? Uh, probably the clerk. The clerk and maybe Jeff. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Jeff with Phillips Town. Yes. Okay. And uh the applicant and the architect. Yes. Okay. Great. Well, that that would be super helpful. Okay. I think Thank you. And I I know that like this week we especially we've been very emphatic, but I think we just wanted to know where we're at. Yeah. I mean, I think unfortunately like uh you have a small you have a small village run by a lot of volunteers uh and um sometimes the dots don't always make the the full connections, especially when um like Greg is Greg is help basically the building director for the village but he's a part of the town right and so he has a a broader purview than what we have here so it makes it slightly more complicated to to interact with not not as simple as it would be if he was like you know down the hall here. Um, but if that's if that is you feel like we'll give you what you need for now, at least from this board, then I'm happy to do that. I think so. Yeah, I I I understand your position in all this, which is kind of um at once completed, but also can do what you can to help move it along. Yeah, it would. Yeah, that would be extremely helpful just so we understand where we're at and kind of um helps him, you know, if there is a misunderstanding on his end of what we need from him at this stage, but uh be helpful to get going. Okay. Yeah. All right. Great. I will send that email tonight and um we'll see what happens. Okay, great. Thank you all for appreciate it. Of

15:51 – 17:330

course. Good luck. Yeah. Sorry. It's been such a half. You know what? I I surpris All right, let us move on. Um, so so October is no longer It'll be here within the next two weeks. All of all of October. Yes. I think um the first two in February were sent over. I don't remember what I had for breakfast. So, Jeff, Sam, we're looking at February 5th, 6th. Yes. 36. I think that's the longest one. Forgive me. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. All right. So, our public hearing on the F trail.

17:47 – 19:310

Yeah. So, correct. Correct. Yeah. I didn't usually I don't do that for the comment but since you guys made the entire memorandum if there's I just thought if there were any questions or concerns um I wanted to write that out so that when for the following one when you finalized the memo there are details that are parallel if that makes sense. Yeah. No, this is good. I'm just saying that for me I don't remember exactly what I heard said. I can tell I can tell you at least this Andrew Holmes is actually Andrew Hall. Oh, okay. Okay. I only know because he's a neighbor and married to Sue. So, who spoke very who spoke immediately afterwards. Oh, and I probably have Paul for Sue. And then do I No, you have you both. She No, no, she's she's her last name is Peele. Oh, okay. I get Andrew's mail sometimes because I live in his house in his old house. Oh, there is a homes on fair street. Oh, there is a home on fair street. There's a homes. Rubert homes. Rubert Holmes. Interesting. I love that book. Do you know the book that he wrote? No, but I know that he's how to the mass the McMaster's guide to how to kill murder your your boss. And it's really well done. That's a little bit concerning, isn't it? No, it's, you know, tongue and cheek and very witting. I just I hope he does a sequel to that. Oh, that's cool.

19:48 – 21:460

I think that's fine. I'm I'll initial this I'll edit about that motion to do anything with these minutes or they're just moving on. Um maybe a motion at the end. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. Well, I mean it doesn't cost. Let's just uh we like to make a motion to adopt uh February 6 meeting minutes uh with the small amendment to Andrew's name. I move that we accept the meeting minutes for February 6, 2025 with the small change that our chairman made. And I'll second. Thank you. Other boards I have just make it easier after you say it. A lot of times they just say so moved and then and then and then how convenient. Repeat everything. Second, however you prefer to do it. Well, so I say you you explain the whole thing and then someone says so moved and then someone can second it, you know. Oh, that would be nice. No thing when when we make a you know if someone makes a motion he says you know does someone want to make a motion to do and then you know I never instead of repeating what I said so you would say

21:43 – 23:430

so moved and that's exactly what he had just said. I think that's a excellent idea. I'm I'm if you're okay with it. Yeah, I'm I'm moved by your agenda. All right. This meeting was four days later. This was going over the draft, right? 144 main. Okay. Yeah, there wasn't a lot going on with that one. Yeah, my is correct. I guess right they in the middle of the ah Feldman. He stated the alternative provided are red or red herrings. Wait, sir, where are you looking? Provided the alternatives provided they are. Oh, I see. You said the alternative provided are okay. That's right. like to make a motion to approve the minutes of February 10th, 2025 with personal edit that member Felman suggested. So move. Thank you. I'll take Oh, wow. Wow. That is just

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That's just smooth as butter right there. We're getting It's like a life extension. Have we heard anything else from Christy Gypsies or anything down there that um they are supposed to be on the HB agenda for this month. Okay. Um they should be doing a soft opening and then a regular opening sometime in June. Okay. Yeah, cuz I hadn't noticed that it opened, but yeah, I was wondering where they were. Have they? No, I hadn't noticed like them. Yeah, I hadn't heard from them in a long time, but stuff is moving. Uh, this is actual public hearing for the post. Okay. Oh, I miss this. You weren't there. Oh, I can't do I can't do anything. All right. This was Are we all done reading it? Just about. This is only This was when I was in Boston. There's only two of us here. Oh, I see. Okay. Well, we'll have to revisit this one. All right. Um, yeah, that's right. I was not. Okay. So, table that. Okay. And then we don't have the October one she said either. I'll make a like a one

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minute report on the land use. Yeah, sure. So I did um the three Friday land use leadership a lula thing. Um so one was on the second and from the state, right? Yeah. Um, and uh, it was really interesting. So, the mayor was there, Eric, whose last name escapes me from the zoning board was there. The the chair Worth, thank you. And the three of us were from Cold Spring there. Um the the thing I took away from this one was that all of the communities along the river are accepting that the water is going up and that they are uh putting um limits on what can be built on the on the water. Yeah. Uh and or nothing being built on the water. There was a consultant who spoke about um I guess Peer Point which is on the other side a little bit south of the bridge. Yeah. Rocklin County. And uh he talked about how they've been getting the buildings to um you know to to make the first floor uh more uh flood uh accepting. uh you know, garages, patio, tile floor, that kind of thing. But I just found it Florida construction. Yeah. So, I just found it interesting that all up and down the river, uh there was a a big understanding of that. Um Yeah. Um and so I don't know what the

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other two are on, but um 16th and the 30th. Okay. Um what uh is it primarily like an information sharing or there like were there like is the state pushing certain u like perspectives or or like ways in which they want us to be thinking about I the one on the second was more about resources that were available to us. Okay. Um there were there were about my guess is over 50 people there. Um there were um Hudson River Keepers, no something Alliance. Um and there they people there were from scattered from up the river. Terry Town person, uh uh somebody from Beacon, um somebody from Albany. There were a few Albany employees that were there, planning board people. Hey, hi. Hi. Your your employer has come and gone. Um, but I'm happy to tell you what we talked to him about if that would be helpful. Sure. So, uh, we basically identified that this fourth condition has been causing confusion. Yeah. And that the the important part of this is basically just as may be determined by the building inspector, right? Everything else doesn't matter, right? Because that's we're basically saying whatever the building inspector, right, finds appropriate, we're fine with. Okay. So, I'm going to send an email to Greg and to you and uh to everyone. Okay. Just calling out the

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language and say, "Hey, the this the the structure of this condition, right, is not meant to say anything about what we think should be done on any approval on any dimension of this. Okay, but that we are saying if the building inspector is okay with the site plan as it stands or with modifications that he suggests, small modifications obviously, but right uh that we are that we as a board are okay with that. Okay. And the rest of the conditions are are boiler plane. So, right. Except for I guess three which we talked about which is the which was the which was the windows, right? Which have been changed. I apologize for it was running but I thought I should at least try to Yeah. I didn't know if that would be it would be towards the end or the beginning. Well, I he was here. I I I re rearranged the minute the the the order so that we he could go back to fast. I don't want to take up your all time because I because I realized as it had dragged on and I sent some I sent the questions to the mayor. I usually don't but I really was starting to because I didn't we weren't getting responses from him and it it seemed like we were kind of circling. Yeah. And my my question sort of also just more professionally was the sort of I guess for lack of a better word the precedent that with this set that's in terms of sewer condition because I know that's an issue. Yeah. and whether we were being held to a condition. Importantly, there was there is no condition that we be being held to. Okay, that's the important part here is that the the inclusion of the language there about sewer, water, square footage is like flavor text for Greg to say, hey, these are things you might care about, right? We can't say that you should be held to any particular standard other than your own judgment. Okay, so that's that's all that that all that specific language is. I would that was my question if there was any way that we can be moving while we're waiting on these these reports which seem to be taking for a long time. I don't understand that that's up to him. Well, yeah. My I think that the important thing is that Greg doesn't if

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Greg doesn't want doesn't feel like it's necessary to wait on the reports, he doesn't have to. Okay. That's the important part. It's like he's literally it's just at his discretion what you know what he feels like is appropriate given the circumstance. Okay. Okay. So, if he thinks it's not it's not critical, then he doesn't have to wait. Okay. And I because I'm I'm I'm always wary of bothering anybody more than necessary, especially the building department because I know they're busy. Yeah. So, my understanding is you'll So, you're going to make those communications. I'm going to send that tonight. Okay. And LCCU and uh Awesome. Hopefully that'll have it taken care of. Great. Well, thanks so much. Sorry to sorry to Yeah. Well, sorry that it's dragged on. these things happen. Yeah. So, all right. Thank you. I'll go unless there's anything else. I had Yeah, that's fine. I'll I had I could send potentially maybe irrelevant at this point, but there's some concerns that I had sent to the mayor. I could floor it on, but I'll wait to see what if maybe this all gets resolved. Okay. Okay. All right. Good luck. Thanks so much. All right. Is that your jacket? That's me. Oh, that's you. Okay. Cool. All right. Thank you. Have a good night. So, um I do have uh a link to the slide decks that people presented. Um probably what I should do is save them up for the three meetings and then make one email and send it to everybody. Okay. Does that sound good? Yeah, sounds great. Yeah, you can. Okay. Okay. Great. All right. Hillary, you want to walk us through them recent most recent draft? I don't know if I really need to walk anything. This was the last time we were together. I think it was February. We discussed let's let's make a different format. So the first part of of this document uh has to do with all the resources and then the second part is more like

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um the general I'm just reading what I have general steps and guidelines. And then the last one resources for the applicant to present. So the first part are the resources that they can they can use and most of them are they're just the links the websites and all of that. Then it's the steps to go through and then the last part the items the resources that they have to bring before the planning board for approval. And again, we say it doesn't have to be any of any or all, but these these are just guidelines because each application is unique like a snowflake. Now that it is has the village given any consideration to uh uh opening up the posting to the Highland current or is there something magical about the PCM? I don't know. Doesn't it have to do with subscriptions or how many readers? some yeah there was some requirement that the current had not met at some point and but I don't know if they have since or okay but you still only post in the PCNR right planning and zoning post in the PCNR um each post one time in the PCNR and once in the frame and I have a like just the title of the last part of the application the of the um the document resources for the applicant to prevent to present the planning board that are they resources like referrals planning board is that called

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a resource would call that something different steps because I don't know if it's a resource like a resource I would think is like oh you could you could what we would materials be slightly more maybe yes the direction you're interested in better than resources materials for the applic and and yeah and maybe not say that these Yeah. Is there a way to say that you don't have to have all these? It's just like maybe uh materials. Yeah, I think that's fine. materials. Um, put a put a caveat in front of it like I'll put we'll put another caveat like this list is not because right here it says this is not I can just like at the end you say although not mandatory or whatever but like yeah materials or like sample materials for the applicants you know or just examples of materials for the applicant or as as required as needed. Yeah, as needed. Um, maybe or as relevant relevant materials for the applicant to present to the planning board, you know, maybe. Yeah. I mean, I I I get the concern because like some of the the mix of stuff on this list is like the referral to the planning board, sign the code, that's actually required. We can't we can't process the application without that, right? So, some some stuff required. So then do you want should we should we have an asteric and say what is is required you know well a couple of them do say if needed or and then other not mandatory I mean if the other items are all mandatory then then just leave it. Yeah, this is where I like probably useful to have Jonathan weigh in about exactly what is I wouldn't be surp like I think like

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site plan is pro is like practically required but I don't know if it's strictly required. It's one of those things where there's enough branches on that site plan review where maybe there's some scenario where it's not that I'm not aware of. I would make them do it anyway. We could do have if needed and then I think we could throw in if he says anything is not is is not required then you could always have a caveat on each of these things like you have is needed access is encouraged you know those are things that that states that it's not mandatory you just do what we asked Jonathan and anyone that's not mandatory then you put a little bit of a caveat on on each of them and that would save the ones that are required we actually say mandatory mandate I don't does that seem I think I think it's implied. I think it's implied when you say material for the applicant to pres present and then say if needed, you know, anyone that doesn't say if needed is a material that they got to present to their planning board. So yeah, I think that would be it. Okay. I think mandatory would be great. I just say that because you keep it simple. Okay. Or like people like me, I'd say, do I need this? Do I not need it? It doesn't say mandatory. I I get that and I am I'm in the spirit of it. But the the only thing is like with that um uh this is like where like lawyers preoccupation with words matters course and then they're like well it's not we can't say mandatory because there's like these three paths that this is not relevant for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. and we change resources on the last page to materials. I think that I think that covers it. And you do have a

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lot of caveats in here. And I guess if it's a question whether it is is mandatory or not, we can just leave it as is. Absolutely. Well, thank you for doing that. Yes, sure. Yeah, I really would like I I would actually also say that that the guidance for application um uh site plan review or subdivision application general guidance planning board. Uh well I'm the the scope of the document covers more than just the submission if include it's the entirety of it's I think you're covering basically the entire like a lot of the process here right not just the application um the plan review or subdivision and uh general guidance. How about we how about we do this? How about we say planning board um site plan review or subdivision application general guidance? Just leave it at that and strike the strike the end and that way. Okay. Planning board site plan review or subdivision application general guidance. Okay. Does that feel Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Um so essentially I would I would change

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property to uh where are we? Sorry, in the in the last page um survey survey of property to uh uh lot and with s in in parenthesis. It may there may be multiple like as with the subdivision there may be multiple lots that are involved. Okay. Um so survey of lot and get rid of property. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Um if ingress egress lighting place in the garbage recycling parking uh I might add do you have a separate item here for signage? You do. Okay. properties, visual lighting fixtures, outdoor lighting standards, good reference there. Uh sign edge refer to sign in placards. Great ef is also where John I think there are there's a short ef form ef and a long form ef if needed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I think I think it's am I misremembering? Is it always required to have an environmental assessment, but you can get away with a short one? Um, for simple applications or not? I I forget now. I think so. You Sorry, what you It sounds right. Sounds right. Okay. All right. Maybe that's that can be a question for Jonathan. Um,

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sure. It's okay. wasn't sure. Yeah. Yeah. Um would this be attached to the current application? Is that like the first two pages the way the HDR is? Um yeah, it's a good question. I I think like I would probably suggest just to keep it as a different additional document. If we're like literally if you're physically handing stuff to people, then we hand them two documents like here's the application and here's some guidelines that might help you navigate the process. Okay. Um uh yeah, I think that would be my preference, but um if folks feel like otherwise and so is also on the website, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think it should be on the What's that? I know. Well, my point was maybe on the maybe on the application you could put in that here's a link to where you could go to find guidelines for it. You know, whatever. Did I not put anything? Help me. Did I not put anything about, you know, paying all applicable fees? And there was something about escrow, too. Oh, yeah. Um, it's probably worth something that says um at like uh note that uh no applications um no applications can be approved before without full payment of of all applicable fees. All applicable fees. Yeah. But you would put that in the top. Did I Did I put it up there? No, no, no. I'm saying you would put that in right instead where that that seems like it would go like in the in the in the general steps and guideline section.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's the very last thing. It's like after Yeah. Maybe after after every application is unique. Uh and then so say just like finally no application can be um approved or sorry can be uh uh considered right well no it's not considered we consider things because they may be they may be they're acrewing additional fees as they're as we're considering. Oh okay. Um uh approval approval of the application. Yeah, the approval can I guess the the the approval can't happen of the approval of the application can't happen without paying applicable fees. I think it's like technically it's like the approval of the of whatever the result is like the site plan. Maybe it's because like this it's actually the approval of the resolution. It's like this the approval of the resolution and the stamping of the site plan can't happen until like this is the thing that actually sets the condition that says hey this this resolution cannot be okay uh it's predicated upon payment of all all all relevant all required fees or yeah okay um the language in in this particular one is that um the applicant paying all outstanding escrow consultant fees to the village of Foldspring as may be required in connection with the application. Um so everything except for um three and four are boiler or kind of standard

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boiler plates. You can take a look at that language. Oh okay. Right. Yeah. Just paraphrase that one. Right. Yeah. Okay. And then we can um uh if Hillary when if you when you make those edits, you can send them out uh include J. Make sure Jonathan's included and and we do. Yeah. And then we'll just get his feedback on on the on the final draft next time. Okay. Yeah. Hopefully we can get this in a working Yeah. you know, people's hands before the next flood of applications come. Yeah. Have you guys have noticed the housing market in the village that we've got a bunch of housing houses that have popped up for sale in the last week? No, a couple have sold one just just up from me on Main Street is just sold. Yeah, there's not much though. There's not much. There hasn't been much movement at all. But then basically you got Pauling, you've got uh church, you've got mountain, you've got bank, and you've got uh fair streets. And there's a little one on uh what is it? Oh, furnace. No, it's Kimble. Kimble. Kimble. Kimble. Yeah, there's one on Kimble. I think there's an apartment. There's a condo, one of the one of the the condo complexes. It's like six, seven, count, seven, seven for sale. Uh last I don't remember last time that happened. We also have down the other ones sold down by the entrance to the train station. So, there's probably going to be there could be something coming as well. My guess is that they didn't a lot of this stuff isn't going to come before us. I think the the only really meaningful stuff that comes before this board change.

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Well, most of those are not going to be change of uses, but 80 similar to what we experienced like people putting in ads. So, we may see some more of those. All right. Well, I'm happy. When we bought our house in September 2018, there were like six houses right around 600,000. I mean, they were like boom. Yeah. Yeah. Now, that's just 800. That's now like $8 to $900. Yeah. Uh All right. Well, uh she said I said sorry. The condos are only more. All right. Yep. We are. We're out of agenda items, right? We are. Yes. Would anyone like to make a motion to uh adjourn this meeting of May 8th um of the planning board? Second. Favor. All right. I'm going to send his email now before I forget. Who was he talking about? Hold on.

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