Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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We are live. Okay, it is 3:59 and this is the July the 22nd, 2025 planning commission agenda or planning commission and I'm calling this meeting to order. Uh, first thing we'll do is approve the agenda from the last meeting. If you've had time to read it, I'll take a motion to approve. to approve. I make a motion to approve the agenda. I have a proion uh motion from Miss Nettles. Can't say Miss Laura anymore. We got two of you.

Uh second. All those in I got a second from Randy. All those in favor say I. I.

Okay, we're going to move right on to public comments. And I want to explain a couple things about public comments. Uh I think everybody that's at this table was at uh our training session earlier this week and we asked some very very good questions. One of the things that we were told and something that has been happening in county commission meetings and some of the other commission some of the other committee meetings is people have a two-minute time limit and then they say who will give me more minutes. Well, we were told that's not proper. So from now on if you're speak when your time limits up your time limits up. So, I would say if you plan on speaking, know what you're going to say and be clear and concise. And uh when you're 3 minutes is up, your three minutes is up. Uh the public comments of course can only be to the agenda items. Uh with that being said, do we have any public comments? I just wasted my breath, didn't I? All right, we're going to move on uh to the approval of the previous minutes. I make a motion to approve.

Randy Harold makes a motion to approve. I make a second. Mr. Laura Vasquez has the second. Anybody need any more time? If not, all those in favor say I. I. Okay, we're going to move right on. Uh Kurt, do we have any bonds to review? No bonds to review. Okay, we're going to move on to the major subdivision construction plans. Country landing phase 4, St. John Engineering. He's on his way.

He's on his way. We're going to we're going to skip him and go to the minor final 5783 Kathy Ridge Road for Samuel Kho. Is that you? Randy, you turn this off.

All right. Thank you. How's everyone this evening?

So, uh, so what this is is, uh, Mr. Samuel Kho. He owns this property on uh Kathy Ridge Road and um he had actually uh like if you'll notice some of these uh lots are less than five acres. He is one of the uh gentlemen who had his um application and everything in prior to that change. and um and really it's just taken us this long to get all of our soils stuff worked out on this. Uh but anyway, um he's had this property for a number of years, but now he intends to sell it and was going to divide it and sell it. Um and so this is what we arrived at. Um he's got an existing house with existing septic on lot two. Uh lot one um you know has soils area on it and everything. Uh but lot three, you know, of course over five acres, but we showed it on there anyway just to show all his property in one one shebang and and get it all divided for him. So anyway, he is uh seeking approval on this and um and I can answer any questions that y'all may have on this.

I do have one question. Are you finding that you're not getting the soil samples back as quickly as you used to get them back? I mean, is that taking more time?

Yeah. Yeah. And people have been reaching out to um of course, you know, like we do a lot of work with Tim Baxter. I mean, he's so covered up that you can't hardly get I mean, you can't even get a phone call through to him or a text message. So people are reaching out to other scientists that are in like the Fagatville area or even uh uh they're they're Cookville, you know, they're they're soil scientists travel now, you know, because they can get work easily if they're just willing to drive. You know, Tim,

he's been doing it so long that he just uh he just likes to cap it at no more than two hours drive from the house. That's just his personal preference. And I think he's actually reduced that because He's just getting to the point where he's about ready to pass stuff off to his son and everything. But no, it's it takes forever to get soil stuff back from from the time that you can actually get on their books. Of course, you got to have survey stuff done first, then they come out and then um yeah, just it sometimes it takes a long time to just to get it back from them once that they've done the work and you might have had to wait for them to get there to do the work and then you got to wait to get it back from them. I've had some complaints and I say that's not our department, you know? I mean, that's that's beyond our control. So,

well, they're they're just all they're just all covered up is what it is. So, and and I know here at least in Coffee County, there's been some transition. Um I'm not sure if uh Mr. Charbano is retiring or I'm not sure what his deal is, but there have been some uh other folks that have been reviewing the Coffee County stuff here lately. I know Allen's still in there. somewhere. But um I know something's going on because we've had uh multiple different people review our plats and sign off and stuff. Thank you. Any discussion on this? This was before the five acre. Yes. Able to come in. I have question. Yeah.

Kurt, is everything good about this? It's in compliance. Any discussion?

I'll entertain a motion one way or the other. I'll make a motion to approve. Have a motion from Mr. Anderson, Sammy Anderson to uh approve this plat. I'll make a second. I'll make a second. Miss Laura seconds it. Any more discussion? All those in favor say I. Thank you. Oh, there he is.

Thanks, Nick. Appreciate it. We're going to make you sit down, then we'll get you back. Okay. Uh, this next one is a major subdivision construction plans, country landing phase for St. John Engineering. Thank you. As you recall, we brought a preliminary plat through a few months ago on this. And this is Thank you. This is portion of that preliminary plat. We've kind of broken it into an additional phase, which is phase four that you're seeing here. And that's the middle section. So there is another section that will follow that's on the upper part of the page to the really to the east there. So this is kind of the midsection. So um the curls on the property to the east and the west of what is shown here. So it's a continuation of the initial phases that would be on the upper right portion of the page here. So this includes modification to the existing detention basin to get the connecting roadway that we discussed in length at the plinary plant stage as well as three other detention basins kind of along the drains. And I think Cindy, they are in that enlarged plan that I'd emailed to you, but they're also

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C one. Uh the other two are actually extracted three C3. There you go. Yes. So these are the grading plans that show the construction of that connecting roadway, the modification of the existing detention basin, and then you'll see a series of dams along the drain that will be up towards the top of the page are the other detention areas that we are creating. So we are managing storm water. We are um constructing roadway along the ridge and creating the lots that are shown here. I think that third PDF Cindy 3 extracted 3.2 is the other detention area. So that shows kind of in the upper left detention base and kind of the end of the development there. Be glad to answer any questions. You found everything to be good and our independent uh engineer is always also found all this to be good. Correct.

Yes.

So Scott says it's good, Kirk says it's good, and our independent engineer, would you name again? Uh from Google has also looked at this. Any questions?

If there are no questions, I will entertain a motion one way or the other. I'll make a motion to approve. Have a motion. Harold to approve. Do I have a second or is there any more discussion? First, anything heard? I have a motion to approve. Do I have a second? I'll second. Second from Sammy Anderson. I have a motion to approve. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I.

Okay. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate it. Uh, our last item to be discussed is a request for resoning A1 to C1 10009 Hudoo Road. Uh, is this you, Nick, again?

Uh, Nicholas Northcut. I'm representing the Telefords on this. Um, so they are seeking to reszone, uh, the lot. Um, yeah, it doesn't have a parcel number on there, but that existing house right there, um, they're wanting to cut the rear portion of this property off. So, they are seeking reszoning on this property to the C1 in order to do that. Um, we're um, you know, we're hoping that we are applicable for C1 because we feel like it meets the criteria and that it does have fire protection. and um it is on a state road. So, we're hoping that that helps us meet that requirement for the C1 reszoning.

So, they're wanting to divide it off to sell it for a house on it. So, they had actually purchased this property back in December with the intentions of doing this, but it has taken a long time to get Mr. Dickerson uh to get all of the soils work done necessary to do this. um there's like an existing soil site with the house and so he had to I think make a return trip to find a secondary area for the house and and and really that's kind of one of the main holdups on this was the

was the soil one of the reasons they didn't have their application in prior to that um oh they'll meet all the setbacks They'll Yeah, they'll they'll meet setbacks. They'll meet lot size and area. They'll still be able to do 50 foot to get to it. And um yeah, it would otherwise meet all the requirements. But they're not wanting to put anything commercial there. Is that correct? Uh no. No, it would be residential. It still be residential with it being C1. Nothing. However, if we change it to commercial, they can put something commercial. That's that opens the door. But let's just make sure that opens the door.

Make make certain we know that. Uh is Hudoo Road a state highway? I know I think it qualifies because it's an arterial, right? It's Highway 64. Oh, is that Highway 64? No, 280. 28. 280. 280. 280. I'm sorry. It'll qualify. I was saying Gber, but yeah, it's Highway 280. If if I'm not mistaken and I don't want to speak out of turn, I can ask the Telefords, but you already know who's going to build on it, right? Quite likely.

Yeah. I mean, um because I've had that gentleman contact me as well. So, if the concern was wanting to prevent anything commercial from going there, um is it um I only brought that up, Nick, because if we change it to C1, we don't have we lose control. But uh also that also goes into like a flag lot. It's got the 50 foot, but it goes to the back. Yeah. It's not fe simple. That's correct.

So that little lot would of course never be able to be divided after this. Um but no one that is by all intentions that is what they want to do is put a house back there. Did you just say that lot behind it could be divided? Well, no. I said it could never be divided. Never divided. Okay. I didn't say I didn't think but

you folks realize that this is the first step and this will still have to go in front of the county commission. You're aware of that, correct? Yes, sir. Okay. So, they're wanting to just divide the lot to sell that lot so someone can build a house on it. Okay. But not it's not like a family member or anything, you know. Is it Is it just a Oh, it's okay. Yeah, we don't want to sell it. We want to build back there. Gotcha. They want Okay. So, they want to They want to divide it so they can build back there. Probably sell their own home, I guess. So, you want to build your own home back there, but you want to sell the front lot? No, you don't want to do that either. Well,

well, that makes it okay. Okay. Okay. So, you're not wanting to sell any of it? They're just wanting to divide it to.

So, they're wanting to do it for their own home and then also keep the older house itself. So to divide their to divide their own property, they have to move it to C1 to to build a house on their own. If we if we if we divide it I thought that was just for and they go to C1 if they go to C1 if we if we grant the C1 variance or C1 resoning for

they can do anything that goes into a C1. Okay. I mean that's It does, right? And this wouldn't be major. No, it's in A1 when you're less than five acres. I know, but I thought that was the situations that had to be in A1 for major subdivisions any A1. Okay. Any A1 acres or less. That's what resolutions. Okay. Okay. But they're want to do it further on.

Yeah. And keeping the front section for yourself. Y'all live in the front section. But that's our only path to build a house back there is divided. Either that or you'd have to have 15 acres or more to put more than one residence. What? Okay. Who bought the place beside it? Uh, pretty sure the fell who's wanting to build the house for him in the back there. Um, wasn't it? It was Justin Cune. Yes. He's uh, you know, Dan Anderson's son-in-law.

Dan and Kelly Anderson's son-in-law. because I knew that that place was originally a lot bigger and I knew the one section that the one section there that 1805 got divided off of it. Yeah, they're building a house on it now. Right. They're building a house on it already. That was before the five acres went into effect. That's correct. And then the other side over there right past it also went to it originally. Mhm. You're you're correct. We're dealing remember now folks, we're dealing with this one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was just trying to think this one lot.

Yeah, but I was just thinking though if it had more landing to go with it or something. Any more questions, discussion? I know I'm seeing some puzzle faces here. Well, I'm just puzzled because I know that once we start resoning from A1 to commercial, I think it's going to be a pattern open. But now the C1 doesn't stand for commercial though, right? It's community. It's commercial. Well, center district like

But they could build commercial though, won't it? Correct. C1 is mixed. Mixed use, right? You can go to C1 commercial and go back to residential. You might be able to build a Dollar General, but that's I mean you're talking about 17. Is that 1710? Is that right? That's not

because one was8, one was 0.9 just spitballing. You know, y'all could make minors allowable now without having to have variances. Just just throwing that out there.

You discuss with your clients the possibility going forward. Um, well, this wouldn't apply for a I mean, what for like a variance? You mean a minor? Um, no. No, I didn't. this would I didn't think a variance would apply to a new lot, but only lots of records. We're working our way through that or that's how it's been done, I guess.

That's u the minor subdivision. If you if you remember reading resolution 2025-05 where we stipulated minimum lot size in the A1 district would now be 5 acres but another sentence followed that that says minor subdivisions may be granted by varants and there's already the next going to have to deal with I think a few of those. Five of them for me anyway. Do what? Five of them for me anyway. So

So I wonder why you didn't talk to them about that. Well, in in their case, they had already That's one and done. In other words, it's a BZA grant that you're done. This one is a twostep as our chairman explained. Well, that may be a pathway that they have to take if the commission decides to not vote this to a C1. More questions, more discussion. Will anybody want to make a motion? Anybody want to feel froggy and jump? I make a motion to decline.

Have a motion from Randy Harold to decline. Do I have a second to that motion? Any more discussion on that before we before I ask for a second? Can I ask why you We really need a second before you open discussion. I I'll second for discussion. Okay. Um go ahead.

Can I ask why you would want to decline that knowing what you know about it? because it's uh starting to open up a door from A1 to C1 and it's less less than five acres and our uh regulations specify we can't do it less than five acres in A1 but now weren't there supposed to be two pathways one was resoning and the other was through variance neither guaranteed right

I I personally don't have a problem with them building on their own property and and building and dividing it and doing that. I I don't have I think it's the whole changing the reasoning of it to but just because of what it's going to do. But I honestly

see where people you see the situation people are in now though, right? I I see. I I kind of agree with what I would do with what Dennis said. I would definitely go to BCA. I think that would that would probably fix the problem. Anybody else? I'm going to weigh in just a little bit. I Dennis knows that I feel this way. I I'm not crazy about the variance. I'm not I'm not crazy about that. I've only found one definition of variance and uh I can't see where it applies if you just want to split lots up. Okay. Uh I think resoning is better. I think we've made the statement in this meeting before that we needed to come up with conditions and reasons to do this. And we have asked people to be patient and wait. And I think I've had that repeated to me about 20 times. They don't care because that's what needs to happen. I think we need to get get some stuff done. We're going to talk a little about a little bit of stuff. Some of it I think you'll like at at the end of this meeting. We can't vote on anything, but we will be at the next meeting. Uh, that being said, we hadn't changed our position at all. Uh, I have a motion to decline

and a second. Do I have any more discussion? You ready to vote? Mhm. All those in favor of declining this resoning say I. I. Oppose. All right. Now, do I need to after our training class the other day, do I may need to make an affirmative motion? Get somebody to make an affirm motion on this, Dennis? No.

Okay. When when the motion is made to approve and you get all no votes, you essentially declined. But the technical aspect that we've been pointed out by our training trainer is you ought to put it back for a vote to decline. That's why this motion to decline was approved. Now, if you' got a bunch of no votes to decline, then you would have probably want to brought it back as an affirm. Just making sure we had it straight. Yeah, just making sure we had it straight.

But she was talking about you wanted to end in all yeses and that way like I say, bring it back. We still don't have another pathway to go and I wouldn't give up on this yet. Well, you're not. So we can you have the option now to move forward to the full legislative body which may very well approve it, right? Um well, so they've paid their fee already. So, you know, we're likely to to try that avenue. But um if that is the case that they are declined with the full commission you know when we go before the BZA can we say that we are here seeking a variance upon the recommendation of the planning commission

we got to work our way through that you know there's some semantics in the word variance it's uh TCA has uh and our planner varants has a singular meaning. I don't think it does. That's my opinion. But it's the opinion of our planner and the TCA and our chairman as far as that goes. That variance has a singular meaning when it comes to planning and zoning. So, having said that, there's a very good chance I know the BA has three distinct powers that are in our zoning resolution. TCA adds a fork that says, and I'm going to have to paraphrase unless Cindy has my email in front of her, that says or to answer special questions authorized by the zoning ordinance. We have allowed the BCA the ability to answer a special question in our ordinance or resolution. Those are synonymous terms. Now, having said that, we use the word variance as opposed to the two words special questions. So, there's a real good chance we have to go back and amend and edit that zoning resolution amendment that says minor subdivisions may be granted by varants and have to reward it and say minor subdivisions may be granted by special question to be technically compliant with the specific language of Tennessee code annotated.

Now, that comes from our professional plan. So, we do we do have a little work and I'm just hoping everybody will bear with us. But I do like the BZA addressing this stuff right here myself. I really do. Minor divisions. Yes. Minor subdivisions. Yeah. I don't think I don't think anybody disagrees with that. as long as we can get through the wordings and make sure everything up.

But right now, I think you guys need to go on to the full commission with this one. That would be my recommendation. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you all for your time. Which you would have had to have done anyway. Even if you would have got an affirmative, you would have still had to go before Yeah, this is positive or negative recommendation. Correct. Okay, moving right along. Thank you all for your input, Randy Laura. Thank you very much. Yes, sir.

Uh we're going to go into discussion now. Uh did have all of you had a chance to read what Amanda did with the family variances? Did you get a chance to read that, Laura? No. Okay. I did did get it to you, right? I don't know. Like you had anything else to do. Did you email it to me? When did you do that? It's been a couple months ago, had it two months. Okay. Maybe I did read it. I think it's two months ago. Okay. Oh, yeah. I did read that.

Okay. Uh to me that's one of the most important things that we need to do with the five acres is allow for a family variance. Okay. Uh kind of we can't vote on anything today but we can discuss it and we'll discuss it again at the next meeting and we will vote on it the next meeting. That will get in front of the county commission at your October meeting. Correct Dennis? Yes.

Okay. Uh, I like Amanda's uh wording. It's not indicative to Coffee County. And as we discussed with her, I don't think there are some things that I don't like. I don't like the 25 years before you can sell it. Uh I do like the fact that there are other reasons that you can sell that piece of property. Uh the the family variance I'm talking uh I think two would be enough for us. Uh, but if you guys still have that, really study that.

And if I think we should ask her, what do you all think about the years? Rodney said 10 years. Several people said five to seven. Uh, mayor, have you got uh I think I think you think with a five5. What's that? We need to come up with a 555. And what's that? Five acres, five years, and five splits off a parent part. That's just my off a parent partial. Off the parent partial. So if you got a 20 acres, if you got five kids is what I'm

saying. You got 20 acres, you can divide it off five times, four acres a piece, but then it you got to hold it for five years. So that's what you're saying. Yeah, the time. Yeah, we're already at five acres. And it does say it does say immediate family, right? Well, can we also in that to help eliminate some of this? If

you're going to just like the one we were just talking about, if you're going to split it up and keep it yourself and keep the front and and build on the back and you keep the front, can we add that in to where we could divide that up? allow them to divide it but then they can't sell it for 5 years. Same thing but it's for individual for yourself usage. I guess if everybody thought the same way that

see what I'm saying that just like theirs if you divide it up in the back they could we could we could approved it under that condition. we can compro approve it, but also it asked the five years onto it. So they can't turn around and say, "Okay, 6 months down the road, well, we're going to sell the front." Well, we discussed that at this at the table with Amanda

is you can I think Rodney's the one that brought it up. You can sell an acre and then you can't sell another acre for five years, which would eliminate, you know, eliminate some I think it would be better than just giving up on the five acres all together. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm talking about. On their case, though, they're not they're right now they're not selling either one, but they're wanting to divide it to get the five to build on the back. But then what like I said, what's keeping them from selling a front? Well, and down the road, the simple fact of the matter is is if you if you

reszone something to C1, you have no control. We would have no control over what happens on that property, right? As long as it was under the C1 uses, right? But I'm talking about that way it wouldn't have to be zone C1. It could, but that's that's something that that's what I'm talking about. Say they could divide it and but it not be zone C1 but say okay I mean yeah C1 say okay I want to build on the back but I want to keep the front and as long as they do that and they make it like a fiveyear just like the family that way they can't build on the back turn around sell actually they wouldn't have to split it up until they got ready to sell it correct

in the property sale that's what I couldn't figure out why are they splitting it up to be able to build Well yeah I know I 202. Yeah. But those are questions that we need to think about and need to make some decisions on at our next meeting. We need to vote and we need to get whatever the mayor thinks he can get in front of the county commission. Uh and I think Sammy, you were one of the ones that said don't give us too much at one time and because you got a lot of other stuff besides this. So, uh, anyway, uh,

I think I was thinking when we when we were doing the when we were divided up in the A1s that because that question had come up, if you have um, 10 acres, whatever, and you wanted to cut out an acre for your kid, then I I thought we discussed that they could do that, that that was a variance that they could do. They didn't have to have it reszoned or anything. They could I agree, but it's not in there. It's not in there. It's also we can't give it. We talked about it, but we got language yet, but we didn't vote vote on that. No. And that's just like that case right there. We didn't vote on that. Do you remember? Yes.

I remember this discussion. Oh, we had the discussion. Uh it gets down to what we Sammy and I just were talking about. You can't put too much. Not that our commissioners aren't great, but you just can't put too much. They got a lot to absorb besides brand. I guess I thought that that was Is that a good statement, Mayor? That was Yeah, that I mean that's why I suggested just a straight variance. It don't matter if you're giving it to your kid or you're selling it to somebody in New York. That was my opinion. You grant the variance. We need to use a different word. I I I can't So I can't deal with variance. I just uh

well that's what it is the definition variation you're you got this over here and you want to do something different you vary that's why I say it's only got a singular definition in regards to in land use it only has one definition that's right so uh it probably got misplaced in there and even like y'all got even if they wanted to sell the house in front They're going to need to sell it to help pay for bill of that when I I can see absolutely selling that. I mean, it's just it thing is though already less than five acres. Mhm.

And then they divided it off and then if you go to C1 like you said, I mean that's going to open a door. Well, I ain't saying change it to C1. I'm just saying like you keep it in A1 to leave it in A1. Yeah, leave it in A1. M see my opinion was when you board of zoning appeals to ask for this minor subdivision that would be one of the reasons I'm here's my kid that is a right you get the various I like the idea that you were talking about the five five5

five acres five kids and in five years and in our defense people say How didn't you work all this out when you was doing the file that Okay, we had to see if that passed. Right. Then we get to work on the details. And had that not made the required minimum votes at the full legislative body, all of this discussion would have been just wasted breath. So, we got the big decision made. A1 is now protected by minimum lot sizes of five acres. Now we got to go to work on how can we bend that when it needs to be bent.

Right. And if it don't need to be bent all the time. No. And where there's a need I have no problem right with a variance. But we're taught we were taught Tuesday or whatever day that Friday. Yeah. Friday. God, had it been that short a time ago. I remember it's worse than I thought. It was Friday. Uh and everything that you look at says to to do something for more money or economic gain and it's not a variance, right? I mean, how many times did we hear it can't be approved as an effect? That's right. Right. So, but like I said, I like

that's what we're trying to work out right now. Like I said, I like the idea like you said. I mean, because you know, we were talking about it brought up about two kids and stuff. I mean, a lot of people's got more than two kids. Uh the five five in my opinion sounds like a good compromise. You got five kids, you can buy it off five times, but you got to have it held up for five years. They can build on it, live on it, but you can't sell it for five years. And I think that would be a good something good to look at.

I I like that also. Uh I I do like what Amanda put in there about there are certain things. I don't think she mentioned divorce, but she did mention death. She did mention uh uh foreclosure, bankruptcy, all those things. things that legally force you to do that other than what you want to do. You say an Amanda put in there, did she uh did she indicate she authored that herself? No, it's I think it came from Williamson. That's what I I didn't want you attributing. No, I'm sorry if I did. I didn't mean to. Let's put it this way. She sent that to me

and I sent it to y'all. I didn't author it either. Right. Uh the other thing that uh I encourage everybody to write notes down before the next meeting. you know, think about all the stuff that you think would uh need to be addressed, you know, and and remember the sub the the uh zoning resolution is different from the subdivision regulations. And right now this minimum lot size is a function of the zoning resolution

zoning resolution which is and to change any lot size or let what you just didn't do today. That's zoning. It's all in zoning resolution. So everybody got to look at it from that aspect. You could one thing talking about you talking about divorce, foreclosure. I just got a question go like I said making notes. I'm thinking my head here. Uh put also in there besides the 555 put hardships. Well, it's she will write that's what I'm saying. You got a good paragraph.

That's what I'm saying. Put like you know divorce foreclosure. I've said multiple times sitting at this planning commission table. We're not in the marriage counselor business. We're not in financial advice, right? Business. We're in land use business. You only look at the use of the land and what's the proper use of the land. Yeah. All that other stuff I I think it just Yeah. really

because that kind of if the question is if it did go through let's say hardship, divorce, whatever and they sold it a year after they built it, then that pretty well wipes out that holding all together, don't it? Wouldn't it? Well, I'm me personally, I'm just putting the fiveyear limit on how many times the parent parcel can be subdivided. And if it's the kid. Yeah. Don't like it there or something. I wouldn't restrict them from selling it. I mean, I don't know why you would restrict kids. Okay. What was the 555 you were talking about then? Five years. We already got five acres,

right? The parent parcel could only be split five times within a fiveyear period. Oh, okay. Okay. I didn't That was just I didn't hear you say the fiveyear period. I thought you was talking about keeping because we were talking about what Rodney had talked about the years holding. That's what I thought. Yeah. Right. Okay. I see what you're saying now. I don't see I just don't see restricting people on making them keep a piece of property. I just don't think I think that would be unconstitutional. If they own it, they ought to be able to sell it.

No, that's where I misunderstood. You were talking about the five. We was talking about Rodney. I thought you was talking about holding it for five years. What you're saying is five divisions, right? In fiveyear period. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And and what I'm counting is that's four parcels with the parent with the parent par. Yes. Mhm.

Four other four other correct divide up into five sections. Right. Yeah. trying to find something here, but evidently I must have erased this note I made. But as Amanda pointed out and we've discussed tonight, I think the very next thing needs to happen is the language in our amendment absolutely

need to be changed or or we change the definition of variance in our zoning resolution. Well, that's one way to go. If you change it to special exception or special question, you could say variance is synonymous with special question. And we have that in your definition. And we have lists of those already in the back or general list in the back of the book of definitions. Is that what you're saying? No. Of what what questions that you can ask? What what condition that you have? Yeah. We have general ones and we need to come up with some specific ones at our next

and those conditions are back here in the back under Well, there's a lot of different topics, but Each one has a different set of conditions. And there is something that we were looking at. Maybe we should not go into the subdivision regulations yet until we get this through the till we get this through the uh full commission.

Everybody gets confused. You know, you're dealing with one another, one another. I think of the zoning resolution, minimum lot size and minor subdivision, the ability to do minors. Uh the uh our subdivision regulations is the one that defines subdivisions. That's right. U that's you know,

and we do that. We can do that in the planning commission, but we still have to have 30 days notice. I think that I think she made that very plain. I'd like to see whatever you got to do with the zoning resolution, try to get that worked out first so it can be uh took to the full legislative body at the next meeting. And there's quite a bit of time between now and October. We were talking about a special uh special call meeting, but we really don't need one because our next regular meeting will be in plenty of time to get uh notice to the before the full commission.

If you got if you got your worked out what you're going to do. Yeah. Well, next meeting next meeting stuff. It needs to be put into words and resolution form. You want Mark to do that or do you want We can do Mark or Amanda. Okay. Well, that's up to you. You're You're writing the check for it. So, I'll see who can do it the quickest sometimes. Yeah, because we got get that way we can get anything paper and stuff. So, if you get everything down, Laura, we're counting on you to have everything down. Huh?

You got everything. All right.

Anything else? Anybody got anything, Mayor? just for the sake of public. Uh the last Friday the last Thursday the scheduled board of zoning appeals meeting was postponed because the very next day, Friday, we had training scheduled and I felt like with a couple three new members on the board of zoning appeals and even the five uh veteran if you the veterans that are on it. I would say we're dealing with some new territory. So I felt like the training session which was a eight hour training session the board of zoning appeals members I think stayed the first four hours for their minimum required. Correct. All of them was there right? I did not attend because I knew I would uh probably be chiming in where I shouldn't. So, I was letting my professional planner do her thing. And then the afternoon training session was the planning commission subject and not everybody was able to stay that afternoon, but uh I think three of you did. We appreciate

she also sent us uh and you emailed it out to everybody her PowerPoint. She she she gave that to us. I think every all members of both the board of zoning appeals and the planning commission had high marks for our new planner and everybody on the board of zoning appeals including the alternate and all the planning commission members and all the staff including Devon attended those meetings. Yes. And I thought that was excellent. Yes. And I thank you guys for it. Yeah, I think she did a very excellent job. Yeah, I do. And I liked having it right here. Yeah, I liked that way you can hear.

Hey, I just like this room better than that big room. Well, and it we had more discussion, right, and stuff, too. And it felt like everybody was more at ease here. Has anybody got anything else? Because if we don't, I'm going to ask for a motion to adjourn. And Sammy just can't hardly wait. That's his second motion. That's his motion. Yeah. And I'll second it. I've got a motion in a second. If you agree with it, stand up and leave. If you sit in your seat, you can stay here by yourself.