Health, Welfare & Recreation Committee - Regular Meeting

Good. All right. Like to call this meeting to order. This is our monthly health, welfare, recreation committee meeting. It's July 24th at 6 PM. And like I said earlier, I'll call this meeting to order. And I would entertain a motion to approve the minutes that you have with you. I'll make that motion. Mr. Dman second. Makes a motion. Jaggy Duncan seconds. All in favor of approval of the minutes. I have.

All right. Going down to number three on the approve the agenda. Before we do that, I need to do a little shuffling around here. I'd like to u create a 4A. Like to add public comments to that. It should already been on there, but for some reason I didn't have it on. So, have a copy. minutes you have. No, I got that. Okay. Agenda. You're talking about minutes. Yeah, that's it. I guess. Okay. Let's only want to create a 4A. Other things will added if you would. You got another agenda. This is minutes.

Yeah. There you go. Thank you.

Here we go. What did you say before? like to create 4 A, which would be public comments. I'm sure we're gonna have we should have some tonight. So, if you would mark 4A as public comments and also under 8, which was our recreation review, I'd like to add 8A. And I'd like to add new business to that. 8A, new business. And also before before for that I'd like to swap um I would like to swap uh seek rule fire and put that uh as 4B please because he he needs to leave early. So I want to try to get him get him so he can leave early. So everybody has that documented down. I'd like to entertain a motion to approve.

So will we do away with number six? Uh are we going to We're just going to move it up. Okay. Okay. Motion to approve. Motion to approve by Mr. Duncan. Second. Second by Mr. Morris. All in favor of the changing of the agenda.

Eyes have it. So, moving down. Let's go to um our unfinished business. And that we can start with uh Anthony. We can start with you from Hillsboro Fire. If you would come up and have a seat, please. So, um, Anthony, I know you just taken over Hillsboro Fire. You're the new fire chief. Would you mind introducing yourself and just tell us what all you got going on out there?

Everybody, I'm Anthony Parish. I'm with Hillsboro Fire Department. I am the new elected chief out there. This is my first time meeting everybody. Um, I've been with the department for 12 years. So, nice to meet everyone. Nice to meet you. Y'all getting ready for the tractor pool? Yeah. Yeah. It's right around the corner. I think it's the first to second at uh 700 p.m. We'll be out there. I've been seeing a lot of publicity.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They always hold a good show and I know concessions are always great and good group of people. Most definitely. Anthony, uh I mean, how many uh how many members do you have out of Hillsboro now that are active members that you can count on to show up to a fire?

I think we got 25 on the roster. And of course, some of that consists of our older members that that hold a board position. They're not necessarily so active in firefighting. I'd say roughly about 10 members um are active in firefighting. We're going to send four of them to the next live burn class to get them certified. that way they can start with interior attack and all that good stuff and hopefully start throwing some more training their way and and really getting them into it. So yeah, we definitely got a good good membership. Question for you on that. Who pays who pays to send these guys to to their the academy or the

we do um of course we we utilize the funds that we have and and we throw the trainings their way that that gets their foot get their footing. Um of course 64 and your live burn that that's going to be your base. Um there's always fire one, fire two, your hazmat classes. Um there's essentially so many trainings that are essential to these guys that you just have to start small and build from there. But we we pay the majority of it out of pocket. Wow. How important to you is the uh 41,000 that you get for the fire? It's extremely smoke. Yeah. Yeah.

Financially? Yes, sir. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, I know that right now we we've kind of got an issue with with that. We went and spoke with Miss Mariana on a subject about um in 2023 the funds weren't allocated and paid for a bill that we had.

Okay. um myself and my vice president being Brandon Gun met with her um went over this and she had agreed to more or less pay that bill with our 2024 money because it was put back in general funds instead of spent on the bill. Um we found a pumper tanker truck that we were going to go ahead and and purchase um being that we would had two years of the 41666. um she she told us that we missed a deadline of July 1. I was unaware of a deadline of having July 1. And I guess that is something that I I was hoping to bring up tonight. So with that being said, um if if we lose that money, essentially the money that that we really didn't have a play in in in losing to begin with, we're not going to be able to purchase this pumper tanker. it's just not going to happen. Um, and that still leaves us paying 40 plus thousand out of our pocket, which we're happy to do, but without that money, we're looking at spending 80,000 plus out of pocket. And I I just can't justify that. That puts us into such a tight space that

when when you say out of pocket, not be able to get it out of uh raising funds. So, what this is, the 41666, the resolution for the uh smoke detector funding is what I've always called it. I don't know if that's what it's necessarily named related. That's what it is.

Um, I was brought up, well, it was brought up to me. I was made aware of an issue. We had a bill float this year to us from 2023 of Sidens and Martin. It's what we purchased some turnout gear with. Long story short, what had happened is somehow the county didn't pay the bill with our 41666. It was just our money was taken and put back in general funding. I don't know where the ball was dropped or why it happened that way. So, you didn't get the 40 something,000 for 24 uh 23. Oh,

23 is where this bill uh came from. So, what what Miss Marian agreed to do was take our 2024 money, pay off the bill, and bring it back up to to the committee of of getting that funding back. So, you lost the money for 23. That's now Yeah. Yeah. That because the receipt was turned in. The receipts weren't turned in and the books were closed. Well, yeah. So, because But the money was still in the general fund. Yeah. The money rolled back. Yes. But yeah,

the way it it's I guess it's sort of like me in the bus garage. If I don't use my money, if that money is not used this year, then poof, it goes away. I can't go. I understand that ought to be and that goes back and I'm not saying anybody but somebody didn't turn the purchase order or something in to her uh or somebody told them that it would be okay and it wouldn't because she had to close the books down on June the 30th to shut it all down and do that. So then it set for almost a year I think uh before the bill came back. Is that right?

Yeah. That'd be the 2023. And what I think what we end up figuring out is they did receive it. However, back then, Sid Martin was under a different name. It was operated under a different name. Okay. Um, they received the the receipt, but it was never paid. It by by the time that they got it, I guess it showed that the money wasn't there and that it was just never brought to the attention of anybody. And then whenever I received it, we we sat down with Miss Mariana and figured it out and I thought we had a good resolution for it. Okay. Um, however, now I'm in this boat. You thought you had a good resolution, but then you didn't. 24 money.

So, that is what we were told is that if we took our 2024 money and and went ahead and paid the bill that that she would bring it back up, she would have that money reallocated to us, the one from 2023. Correct. Okay. Which makes sense to me. An exception to be made. Yes, absolutely. It's good. And then whenever we uh we we found a truck, a pumper tanker, and we took it to her on I believe it's going to be July the 6 or 7th of this month.

Correct. Um and I wasn't present for this. It would be my vice president, Brandon Gun, that when spoke to her, um from what he was told is that she gave him a deadline of July 1 to have it in and that we're no longer going to have access to that money. Um that that puts us in a tight spot, especially since we did everything possible to keep not only the supplier happy, but also the county from from having to deal with a headache, you know. Yeah.

It sounds to me like uh it was basically money you were promised for those four years. You missed one of those years. It seems like we ought to restore that out of the general fund. Yes. I mean, it seems like an honest mistake. Yeah. Just get it turned in. Somebody made a simple mistake and didn't intend to, but we can make it right. Correct. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Can we make it right? Well, we can make a motion and we go to I'll go to processes above us. Yeah, that's all.

And because you're on budget and finance also, you're going to go talk to Mariana. Yeah, that would be great. Okay. Do we need a motion? I I'll go without the motion, but you'll make a motion. I don't think we need a motion. If we don't notes written, we'll go ahead and do something. So, you will qualify for the money 2526. Is that what you're planning on using too? The 41,000. was any approved going to be a 26. Is it? There wasn't. Well, there is gone for this. Oh, they took it off. They took it off the uh full budget. Really? I don't think so. It was It was proposed, but it never

It's a fouryear thing. And I think they decided it was it had it was a four year and it had expired in four years, but it had it has to be renewed by the commission. I think I'm mistaken maybe, but I thought the that was one of the cuts they finally made. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it had been talked about, but it never it wasn't cut. So, okay. But it was it was a four-year deal. It was a four-year

it was it was a temporary fix for COVID because there was no fundraising going on during the COVID time and it was a temporary set in for that and it was set for four years. So, you know, it has to be I guess the commission would have to to approve it again to restart. I haven't seen a budget yet. So, so I mean I don't know yet. So, anyway, so can I just to kind of make it clear, you're going to talk to Mary about the 2023 money that they missed the deadline of July 1st. They've already got it allocated really for a pumper truck and it's Did I say that right? Yes, ma'am. Pumper tanker. Yes, ma'am.

Pumper tanker. But you're accounting for two pieces of money, right? Correct. Now, now the truck that we had picked out, it's sold. Um I I can't justify asking these folks to hold this truck and not having the money in the bank to do so, you know. So, you'll have to find another one. Correct. Correct. Okay. But you still need it. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Anthony, anybody got any more questions? on anything to 931 2734693 and your last name was Parish? Yes, ma'am. P A R R I SH. Anthony, how smoke detectors? How many have y'all installed this this year?

I want to say we're at 11. Um, but I've got a list to go. Honestly, we need some more. I need to fill out the paperwork and get some more sent out to us. Gotcha. Anybody any more questions for Anthony? How much does it cost? Is it different prices to train a fireman? You you mentioned y'all pay for it out of your own money? So, personally, I don't know the exact cost. Um, my secretary, Joe Johnson, is somebody that's helped me with the training. Him and Bernie Gun. Um, I personally don't know the cost. I was just curious. I have no idea. And it just depends on on what it is that they're going to train for. Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you.

Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right, Anthony. That's good report. Thank you. No more questions. That'll be good. Absolutely. Well, thank y'all. It was nice meeting everyone. All right. So, one more question. Yes, sir. That 2023 money, if I can get that for you, that's 41,000. You mentioned 80. Are you counting on money this year? This coming this this year that's starting uh the 2024, right? That's what clarified that's in the account this year. Yeah. No, this is 2025 or five. I'm on back. Okay. The budget that just started July 1. Correct. Okay. That will end in 2026. Yeah. Okay. So, is 2023 correct or would be that is that is where the money was

what happened to the money. Okay. But you spent the other took the 24 money and paid that bill off. Yes. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Anthony, we appreciate you. Thank you. So 4693, right? Getting back to agenda. I skipped my own agenda here. So let's go 4A again. Let's have any public comments on that. Okay. Anybody have any public comments? Now's the time to uh we can we can we can do theirs under rule water. Okay, let's do that. Any public comments on anything? Roger. Anything? Just to clarify that that money is in this year's budget, right? They have to meet their

12 goal of installation, but that money is okay. What is their goal? 12 fire detectors. 12 new fire detectors. Okay. It was It started originally at 24 and he was putting so many up it was hard to get uh it was hard to get. They got a 10 year lifespan by the state of Tennessee. Okay. So once you get a house covered, it's 10 years before you need another one and the public really needs to take advantage of that. Yes. You know, if this program and who do who do they contact the fire department? Yes, ma'am. Yeah.

I'm hoping other people are listening to this meeting and they go, "Oh, I didn't know about that." Call home. All you got to do is call. Yeah. They've been they put it on their signs out on beside the road. I know Summit will does. And uh they call the city, they call Manchester and Tele. Then the two municipalities usually target the rural departments by calling them. So, and I've sort of fallen into this thing. I I like it. I know some don't. Uh to me, it's cheaper than opening up or talking about a rural fire department.

Absolutely. uh if it helps them update their equipment for a quarter of a million dollars, I mean, you're going to be looking at at $2 million to build a building and and then you're going to start paying these people and these people are working for free. Uh and they put their own time and money in it. Uh so I I'm still for it, but I am too. Okay. All right. Any more questions on that topic? If not, we'll move on to the water water. Can I start? Yes, sir, you can.

All right. We had talked back and Jeff Perry from Manchester City had shown up and Miss Pew and several people that live on Jarton Road and that is in my district. Uh we had talked and I they had agreed to uh put a water line in and we got the report back about it sort of got astronomical on money and a couple people don't understand that that's a lot of money. So, the gentleman who was going to put their water in has passed away. So, they're back to zero if we don't help.

I don't know if this will change how everybody feels or not. Uh if if I can get Manchester City to put the water in and drop down to a 4 inch line, no hydrant, that's fine. Would everybody I mean we put we've paid for pipe all over the county. Down my road they paid for it. Down Oak Hill Road out in Hillsboro. We've paid for 4 inch pipe. We've set pipe at Manchester City for years and they have put it in would

I mean it to me it just seems to open up the floodgates for everybody. I I don't know who how many people don't have water lines, but for me to get water line to my property, it's going to cost me $75,000. So, but this is just going out in the road, not to your house. It's not It's just going down to my property. And I know they don't have water, but I I just know of past situations where people were responsible for laying their own pipe. And are you saying I mean will Manchester City not agree to let I mean they can there's other people that lay pipe they can find someone else they can

I don't I don't think they can I think that's like in Manchester's that in their district well that's a new law isn't it mayor said that they would provide all the labor

and if we can get the county to pay for the pipe that's what many many that I've attended. Before Mayor Howard was absolutely no, absolutely not. But finally, Mayor Hob said, "I will help you with the situation." He said, "I can reme and I more or less made a pack that we were going to continue this until we got watered down." that wrote sorry but I don't I was probably just for a second sorry can you come over and sit at the table

okay that's true sorry but Mr. Harris and I made a pack that we would continue working on this water because we've worked for five years trying to get water down this road and he passed away June the 8th. But you remember we came to this meeting May the 22nd and I called him and told him that the water had been approved and he was so happy. Now I'm not sure why he passed away. I don't know the circumstances, but he was going to dig himself, but the city did not want him to do it. They said, "We'll use their own people to dig." And

so now they're going to they've agreed to provide the labor. Yes. Yes. But so what is the cost of 4inch pipe? That's I'd like to know. Well, there were more questions when last meeting when uh Manchester Center rep they were stipulating they're going to have to have it bedded. It's going to have to be engineered. It's going to go all these other things. That's when the price got way up there. And but but think about in their in their defense, if they're going to take the water line over, I mean, they don't they want somebody that they're that they know. I understand all that, but

they've been running lines with without us having to pay for all that. All we were doing was pipe. Pipe, right?

Yeah. And that was my understanding. I'm good with pipe going uh down to your locations and let y'all run from there on because I think even though I voted last time, I think we're opening up a door for a lot of other customers that may be a mile away would like to have water, but I don't think we can provide water for everybody that wants it uh the county really is not in the business of water. It's never been part of that. I mean, we have to go through the city to get water. I understand.

So, you know, I don't know why the city have a close enough line anyway to let y'all tie in. They could put one meter and y'all could figure out the billing on the thing and it wouldn't cost them anything to speak of, but they either have to cross a blue line stream or come down a bluff. Who has to? Whoever puts it in. Well, where is the uh Manchester's water line now? On each end?

Yeah, it's this road is right in the middle. each end each end of J Sarton Road. It's in a hollow that you can come down off 16th Model Road or you can come in off Kathy Ridge Road. Is there water lines on each end? Yes. So why couldn't it not be tied in there from one end to the other and it's only a mile and 710? And I think y'all could probably provide that for uh if the city if the city if the city's willing to do the labor on it. Yes, they are.

I mean, it's just coming down to are we we going to are we willing to furnish the the pipe? Okay. What would be the cost of the pipe and maybe we that's what our rural water guy about uh these particular customers since it's not a an additional for any of the utilities. Um I think it's it's a problem for the next customer. I think it's just going to come down to if you're going to furnish it now materials now, are you going to do it for other folks that come up down the line? It's a decision on this. But we already have. Yeah. How long ago?

Yeah. And how big were those pipes? It got turned down though, didn't it? No, they we paid for we had pipes stacked at Manchester City for years. But you don't now. You don't now. No, I'm talking they quit putting it in. What we passed in this committee did not go through. Didn't go through budget and finance. Yes, it was sent to budget and finance with a recommendation and they turned it down. I don't think it ever came up. Never got sent us. never came up. Well, it didn't get in the budget, so it didn't get anywhere.

So, we I mean, we can if y'all whatever y'all decide, we can have a recommendation to send it back over there again for approval. I think we need to find out the cost. Yes. And why and then who's going to pay for it, right? Why would the people that are the land owners, why wouldn't they pay for the pipe? Why why wouldn't they? That's a fair question. I if I was in their shoes, I'd be saying, "How much is it?" And there's divided by five, we're going to pay for that. That's what I would We had money at one time to pay for engineering cost. And this is back when Mayor Howard was She said, "Absolutely not." So, I held those checks until they expired and then I had to Yeah. tear them up.

Hopefully, they'll still have the money. This starts down here off Kathy Ridge. It crosses this way. There's no houses down through here. This side, it crosses that blue line strain. When the houses start picking up right here, you go up an incline, it's probably three or 400 ft. But we even said we would be okay with it stopping at the bridge. So, we y'all want to Tim you want to get Tim to check on the price? let him check on materials and then I think we need to start there

and then come back with the only thing I see is we we we we told them before that we would do it. We'd furnish materials before, right? That was our that was our last recommendation. Um a lot has been discussed and changed in this county about our infrastructure since then and I think it warrants smart decisions at this point. Okay, this is going a little further than what we've done in the past. They were basically main lines, not going down uh roads. Let's get Tim to check on the price and then next we'll put that on the agenda for next month and we'll we'll address it next month with a decision on what to do. Where do you get the cost of the pipe

from him? It'll have to come from Manchester City. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you just got to get the I mean, how many how many feet are on a stick? And then how many sticks to the mile and a quarter? Mile and a quarter. Mile and a quarter. Well, from the top to the bottom. Well, if you go all the way through, it's 1.7. But if you stop at the bridge, it's 9/10. What are you going to do there? Somebody's not going to get water. Well, there's there's nobody below that. That would be coming in from the top from the 16th model and stop at the creek and not have to dig cut through the rock in the creek cuz nobody lives past there. The other house that's down there that lived, Mr. Norman Lynch, they have water off Kathy Ridge. Right. Okay.

Right. Yeah. I drove through there and looked at it. I know where you're talking. The only water source they have is that creek. It's a spring, you know, and that's it. That's just it. And if anybody messes up the spring, it messes up everybody. How has your water been this year? Well, of course, we get a lot of rain. That's why I was asking. I had the same problem with a well. My Well, they don't even have a well. Um, and if my son uses any amount of water, he has to come to my house and fill up a big water tank and take it to his house. Has anybody got whales? No. It's at spring.

There's a new home down that they board like a 200 foot. Oh, it's over 300 feet. Did Is that why they stopped building there? Yeah, because there it was dry. 300 feet. It's probably sulfur water and and there was nothing. Nothing. So, is the spring like gravity flow? I mean, how do you get it? Do y'all pump it out of the spring? That it is just gravity, isn't it? Pump it. You pump it. Up the road. Use gravity. Gravity. Okay. All right. So without a recommendation, let Tim check on the price of the pipe and then not to just keep kicking the can down the road, but that's a big part of this. What does it cost? And does that price change every month or is it a pretty

stable price? I'm going to say it's going to fluctuate depending on what the economy is doing, but I may be completely wrong. I know. That's what it seems like to me. So how long would the price be good for? It's probably not likely to go up because of oil is going down. Well, I wouldn't think it would go down. Well, Tim, you you you can find out how long it's going to find out. So, you know where? Yes, ma'am. I'm gonna find it tomorrow. I promise you. Well, it's real easy. You just go by the Coffee County Bank, turn right, go by the cemetery, keep going. Okay. I'm not sure what that street is, but you down by the sewer plant.

By the what plant? Sewer plant. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I know we've discussed this a lot and we even voted for it and I feel badly for you, but I I still got heartburn about doing something we hadn't been doing and setting more precedent to put the county in the business that we should never be in. Well, I know you mentioned last time something about you didn't feel like you did we didn't want water lines and then running then subdivision. There's not going to be any subdivision at all down there. I mean, this is just mere need.

Well, that's why the county passed the uh zoning type stuff recently about back to the five acres and all. Mhm. trying to force utility companies to run their lines or the developer pay for those lines. So, the people that are buying these houses, they're the ones paying for it. Mhm.

Everybody else buys a house uh anywhere near town or something. Typically, they can tie into water, maybe walk, sewer somewhere, but and when they build a subdivision five miles out from any infrastructure, we got a problem. Mhm.

Everybody that ends up in a house like Wayside that uh leaves county with a problem saying you need to do something about this. And in Wayside's case, they're paying quite a bit of money every month, uh way more than a water bill, a sewer bill to uh try to keep that system running. And we basically told them, "We're not going to give you any more money. This was some R ARP money and we're not going to keep doing this to keep that system up and they're trying to build three new houses right now apparently what I was told yesterday.

I I I think getting back to the water versus the wastewater is different. It's different. It's not something the county ought to be in. It is. It' be it' be a county one-time fund on the pipe and then it's taken over by municipality. this other we're still tied to that for years, but I don't know that we're tied to it anymore. I'll call Joey Hobbs, too. Pardon? I'll call Joey Hobs, too. We'll try, like Rosanne said, we'll try to stop kicking it down the can by next month. We'll try to we'll have you something. So, okay. When is your next meeting?

Probably probably looking at uh the 19th or the 28th. Just whatever we we'll decide here at the end of this meeting of August. Okay. Okay. Is that the only recommendation that you can give me because we you know we just Tim Tim will get fought it and fought it and thought it you'll get back with us. Judy, what's your number? My number is 931497809. Mr. Duncan, you got anything to interject into this? We hadn't heard from you on it.

I'm not familiar with the area and I'm just wondering is that is that an area I know Murphy'sboro is moving to Manchester. All these big cities are moving to the smaller areas moving to Beast Grove say and um I'm just wondering how are those areas ready to really explode or does it look like they're really growing so rapidly that that that this might be a real problem? They're not growing rapidly and most of that property is going to stay in the same hands. It's just that people have lived there for a long time and their their water sources have gone bad. Okay. And there's just not potable water there. Okay. I thought maybe area I know they're moving this way. Oh, yes.

Cities are Yeah. Well, can I ask one more question? So, the reason that you don't that the water last year was a dry year, it went dry, right? Mhm. Well, I mean, it didn't Well, yeah. Parts of that is definitely dry and there's nothing but rock, but Well, Nancy, maybe you can kind of explain your I mean, they have kind of like a Well, I even asked um what what was it? H2. Oh, the plumbing. What's I can't think of the plumbing name. Pro plumbing.

Pro plumbing. Sorry. Pro Plumbing to come down and uh see if a withholding tank could be put in. And he came down and he looked at it and he said, "I don't think there's another place in Coffee County like this." He said, "I'm sorry. I can't help you because you've got a spring." Mhm. A lot of whales were trying to drive, but the spring can't be run into a big I mean I y'all been functioning on this for years, right? Mhm. And it just feeds into each house. Is there a How big is your You know, what I'm getting at is what has changed

in the last year or two? Just got real five years. Five years. Yeah. I mean, you know, you just want a better water. You worry. You worry if I mean they certainly don't drink it, you know, they have to buy it all their drinking water. I mean and if they take a shower I know my son said we take showers sometimes in muddy water. Really? Mhm. Oh yes. And the comm well you tell them about laundry. Tell them about your commode. Can you filter that? Well, the filter would have to be replaced every two weeks, I'm pretty sure. Understand?

Can you state your name? Yes. My name is Nancy Bush and I have lived on J Sarton Road my entire life. So, I have dealt with this my whole life. Um, so yes, the water, we do have water obviously, but we have to watch how we use the water.

And when it gets dry, you have to watch how often you can flush the toilet. You have to make sure you're cleaning the toilet because you have rocks coming in. You have mud coming in. you know, our hot water heater has to be replaced quite often because the rocks and sediment come in and will ruin the thing. So, there's expenses such as that that we have to endure year after year just due to the water situation. Um, if my husband needs to take a shower, I can't do laundry, I can't wash dishes, I have to time things. So that is very frustrating and if we have the opportunity to have a better water source, we want to make sure we take advantage of that,

right? But uh I think you're always going to have a problem with the spring not having enough water, but I think you can filter and get rid of some of your problems. Certainly don't want to be ruining water heaters and everything else, right? I've got a whole system filter on my well and it'll pump uh sand and dirt and do what you're describing. Uh and I have to take the filter out and clean it, put it back in. So that would be I would think a little cheaper thing than uh having things ruined and all your plumbing stopped up and

right all that. Mhm. So, and what we're dealing with, it's been there for decades. Yeah. So, if we don't get water through this method, we will have to invest in something else. And then we're not going to have money to put into city water pipe coming down the road. We'll be putting money into what we have there currently. So, you know, we don't have a unlimited amount of money. Sure. At our disposal either. So, Right. I'm not I wasn't being insensitive to that. We don't know how much the pop is going to cost. Absolutely. I mean, that's number one. We would love to know that. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I'd be thinking. Uh if you know how many That's what I was thinking on the property I'm trying to get water to. I wish I had a few more neighbors that could share the cost of $75,000. But absolutely. Well, you might want to get a check on 4 inch. Also, you're never going to get fire protection probably unless you get 6 inch. So, it might be worth somebody's difference between the four and the six and I would think that would help your uh insurance. Okay. All right. We'll uh Tim will check on the price of the pipe and you'll report back to this committee next month and we'll try to come up with something. Thank you.

I appreciate it. All righty. Moving on down. We got animal control. Craig's not here tonight. We can skip that. Uh Rosanne, no wreck, anything don't have anything going on with that. So we can go to our new business 8A and um Neil, we can add you on to that. You got anything come up and we'll put we'll put you down as a rescue squad review. No, you'd asked me last month too about coming out. So we just going to come out and uh we appreciate the support y'all give us throughout the years. Uh this is five of my six officers come with me tonight. You want to introduce them all to us?

Jennifer Simmons, Jamie McCulla, Dan Ike, Dustin Darnell, and Linda Fster. We're getting close on our building. Picked one of our trucks up. It's here. If y'all want to see it after the meeting, we picked one up this afternoon. Don't have it strapped yet. We do have one finally back. Uhhuh. Four months, but we finally got her this up this afternoon. Um any questions you want? We'll we'll schedule we can schedule for next month for the for the next month for a full review. We just had Hillsboro tonight. If not, I'll important is the the the money that we share with you.

Very important. Um we've had a parachuter in a tree. We've had a boat sunk. We've had a guy found broke his knee at Relish Falls. Was it a parachute in Oklahoma? Yeah, I thought so. And we had a guy the other morning at 1:30 in the morning, his boat quit running. We had to go ahead and pull him. We jumped him off, get him back in. So, how'd you get the parachuter out? The finally set up a hall system and hooked him into it and brought him down with a hall system. He y'all did it or Tele and we was they used our equipment, their equipment. It was How high up was he? About 70 ft.

I was on so I didn't He was way off a target, too. got involved in that crash a few weeks. I was on I was on the ambulance there on that one. I was on So the 41,000's important. Yeah. Um that's what I was going to say. We had a boat sink in the other day. U 99 time we're in the water. We're in full dry suits. That's why we try to keep not the best gear, but keep my divers and my guys safe. Uh we got in the water, we had gas, we had oil in the water. If they get in in a dry suit, a wet suit, they're going to have it all over them. They come out flooding. You never know what kind of water you're messing with. So 99% time swift water team there. Everybody's we do dry suits year round. So how'd the boat sink?

They had bought a boat and took it out in the middle of the water and the uh transit. It was cracked. Had a big crack. They didn't know about it. So it wasn't your boat? No, it wasn't our boat. We went and got That's all I care about. No, we went and got it, flipped it up. We got our bags. We turned it over and got it back to the dock for them and got it loaded. And And all this is free. We don't charge for none of our services. We don't charge a dime. It might be something to think about. Amless charges something. Everything y'all do is free though. Free. Yeah. Being a 501c3, you really can't charge for your services. You can accept donations. Accept donations. Yeah. But most And you don't get many of those. No.

You just talked about while the go fundraisers. We start in May. We do a mud run at the fairground. June we do Bonnaroo. July we do the third of July show in. We do a mail out and we'll cook nine days at the fair this week of this coming year. And we're fundraised quite often, but it takes that to keep the guys and girls safe and keep equipment coming in. And if we lose that, that means we're just going to have to pick up more. And I mean, we're working six, seven months out of year already trying to raise money. April, we do a chicken dinner. We've not been able to do it on kind of building, but there ain't too many months that we're not trying to out raising money, trying to do something to keep everything going.

So, how much do you typically make in the April chicken dinner? And how much did you miss out on? Was it 12,000? Good year is 12. Usually our average company is 10,000. Okay. That's for total cookouts that you do. No, that's just that one that you I'm impressed. Oh, everybody stops there. We cook uh Last last time we cooked, we cooked 108 Boston butts and we cooked and made barbecue oven. We cooked uh 780 something chicken halves. So they lost that for two years because of what building on fire. Oh yeah. We've not been able to get back in the building two years. This December two years.

It's looking good now. Close. We like uh waiting on the guy to get the cabinets built. The plumber can finish up in about a day and electrician likes about a day and a half and then it guys is We're getting close. Like I said, we've had a truck going for four months. We just got it back today. And I would I would like to say with um the rescue squad in the middle of the night, 2 or 3:00 in the morning, the county units go out for a fire, they always send a truck out to like rehab them, make sure they have something to drink, cool them off. And that's a big deal when it's 95 degrees. And at night, it's still hot. That stuff's Yeah. They help. That's that's I always thought that was one. Well, just knowing that somebody's there to help you care.

We care time we care coffee, not chocolate and water and Gatorade. Summertime, we care water and Gatorade and a miss fan. Uh we keep towels on ice water when they put around their neck and come over to rehab. And when you're hot and there's nobody helping, stuff like that is that's like it gets you back going again. Makes you a mental boost also. I would think

I mean we've we've helped Tong have Manchester. You call us. Uh there's no lines. We're going to go wherever you need us. We're going to go. My guys is willing to go. We keep uh four people on call. You call, you going to have a officer, a first responder, and one to two regular members that go on every call, rehab call. Why we do the first responder is they several uh it's been a year ago, I guess. There was a a house part blowed up. Almost got there, had a woman burnt from head to toe, thirdderee burns. So they they were stuck with her. Had a guy come over having chest pain. Had a lady come and said, "I'm fixing going labor. Nobody else take care of them. So we care first responder. That way we can hold off till the ambulance gets there and do whatever we need to do. They're state certified first responders and they're there to take care of the patients till we can get another ambulance to them. Even firefighters, you never know when the firefighters going to go down. And I'd know that we didn't have somebody there to take care of them if we didn't have ambulance available at the time.

So, are y'all trained for all this? Uh Yes, sir. Wow. Did not know that. Talking about training. Uh we do two state trainings a year. Cost me $125 a person to put it on. They got to have at least 20 people. So, that comes out of our money. We've got a structural collapse team, trench team, grain bend team, high angle, low angle team, swiftwater team, dive team, and they have to be certified every every other year. We have to be some kind of different training. We've got to Hey, is uh is Linda she certified and all this stuff? She is she Linda certified to take notes. Is that right? Okay. All right.

But I mean, you take $125 and we have to get the motel rooms for the guys coming in. We have to pay for that because it's they don't charge a dime for coming in. This goes back to Tennessee Association. It's where the money goes. The guys come in don't get paid. I started to say surely somebody does. It goes back to them and uh they just went up to $125. So y'all pay dues basically. We pay dues every year and then if you don't pay dues to be in the rescue squad then the training is $400 a person. So we pay tar dues and then the squad has to pay dues. Then they come in and they'll send instructors in and uh it cost $125 a person that way instead of 400. Gotcha. Well, Neil, we appreciate all you do. We do a good job.

We thank y'all. Did you say how many people you have? I've got 30 on the roster. We probably got 15 active, but I just put We're very fortunate. There's probably every other meeting I've got people showing up. We just put three new ones on last meeting that's been real interested. Um they they come in the building quite often. I've seen yesterday Dan was mowing. One of the guys come out started weeding with him. So they're I mean they're wanting to do something. I'm always impressed all these volunteer groups doing this without getting any pay or anything. That's right. It's a lot worse than being a commissioner. It's not very thankful either, but uh G County's got a lot of great

We don't have to put in the kind of work y'all do. What's your um youngest volunteer state in in age? What's our youngest member? Just curious. Mid 20s. Yeah. Early 20s. Early 20s. Early 20s. Just put two guys on him. It's uh like I said last last meeting that's in her 20s. Oh, that's great. Other guy's probably in his 40s. Early late 40s. He just got out of the military. All right. We usually have two or three every other meeting show up want to join. So we're very fortunate again. We appreciate all you do. We'll have you back over soon. Okay, Tyler. Somebody I'd like to see the truck, but

we'll wait till Okay. We're going to let out pretty quick. We have to set a time and date right here just a minute. There we go. All right. Let's uh you going come by, take us for a ride, and get you let you do the siren. Yeah, you'll like her siren. Yeah, it vibrates the green. I want to drive the truck, not pull the siren. All right, let's look at um let's look at uh Tuesday, August 19th, 6 p.m. I know we usually go on Thursdays, but but we could when we could look at the 28th of Thursday if need be, but I'm okay on the 19th. Okay, let's do let's do a Tuesday the I'm not I won't be here, but that's okay. Y'all can survive. Can you make a Thursday night?

You can make Thursday. Mhm. Okay. Y'all want to go Thursday the 28th? 20 28th. Thursday. I'm okay with that. Have like it when everybody's here. So, let's do Thursday the 28th, 6 p.m. Rosanne, you didn't get out of that. I can do that. I wasn't trying to get out of it. That's my son's birthday on the 19th. All right, I got you. Whose birthday is it? Boon. Okay, we have to celebrate on the birthday. We can't do it another day. Thursday the 28th 6 pm. All right. I'll entertain a motion for German. I'll make that motion. Mr. Miller, second by Mr. Morris. All in favor of German say. Eyes have it.

Thanks everyone for coming. Good crowd tonight. Try to get y'all. I want to see that. Turn that off. Thank you, Mr. Morris. Yes, sir.