Ambulance Authority - Regular Meeting

Very well, it is a meeting of the Ambulance Authority on August 20, 2020. We will call the order. Everyone is present at this time, with the exception of Dr. Keel, who is going to delay just a little in arriving. We will pass to approve the order of the motion to approve.

I have a motion. Is there something in this document that needs to be added or changed or anything like that?

If not, all in favor say yes. All against. The motion is approved. Public comment. Do you want to say something? Okay. There is no public comment. Approved. Modify the acts of the previous meeting.

Motion to approve. Approved.

Motion to approve. All in favor say yes. Who's in favor? No. The motion is approved. Approve the review and authorize cancellations and indebtedness of budget and final. I think they all looked at it.

I think one of them is Juan.

$ 8,000 and something. $ 93,000 and something of your $ 34,000.

That's right.

Good. Motion to approve by Dr. Trisler.

All those who are in favor, I say. All those who are against. The motion is approved.

Financial reports.

I have a couple of additional prints, since we have not yet reviewed the report of June, because they did not have it in the last meeting. I work with...

Pass it. Stay.

One, two. Three. Good. So, the first one is the budget. Close the budget.

I still don't have the budget books printed. But I thought you might want to see everything. You know. All the budget that doesn't...

Bueno, donde terminamos. Finales de junio, la columna que dice real no duplicada. Los ingresos totales recaudados. 3,700. y luego el total de gastos totales en la parte inferior es de 4.054.000 pesos. And then you can see that for next year we have used quite a bit of the fund balance. I guess I would call it a deficit between income and expenses. And most of it is for the new ambulance.

We are going to ask for it. Well, it will be a little higher, but maybe this will not get it. Probably this will not be higher.

I hope it goes down a little.

But this is just to start. This is what we're doing.

We start with a background save of 12,000 of these 354. We continue in.

What we have is the best.

You can see 2024 in a minute. We have finished on the right track with the last two years. Of course, the income has gone up, which is good.

Here we are collecting a little more. 56. Is that normal or good?

I'm just trying to do it.

And then those last sheets are, I'm just calling them. The total calls versus what we can really make.

And that was also in 5 years.

So this is working more or less.

No alerts or anything. Any question for Marianne? You don't have to do it. You've already done it all year. So no. Well.

What do you want to do?

It's your moment. You should have your... We have June and July here.

Is there anything you want to ask or ask about this?

I don't know what part of the question is that sometimes an ambulance comes out and says, hey, we can buy... And it's as if any city, town, whatever, is letting go of its ambulance and is available for sale, and so we want to make do with it, but we can't because of the bidding process. Someone else will go for it and get a good offer. That saves them time. But we are trying to find a way of power. Is there any way that we can... I hate using the word to praise, but... Some will retain it because private companies and ambulances will come and they will not have to push. As Jay said, they will come, they will sweep, they will do it and they will simply buy it.

There is some way for us to find a good offer in an ambulance that can have what Bonner was saying, with a new chassis, with a assembly box that can go on sale in a company that is a good offer.

You can push. We have intergovernmental agreements.

There are other governments with which you can.

Well, this would be a company. Because it wouldn't be another, like another agency. It wouldn't be like one of the manufacturers that got one in the trade and remade it and then.

Maybe I don't have a new one, but maybe I have a year or something like that.

You could do it because, as you know, the problem with ambulances is that we have a charge.

¿Han cambiado?

Ahí es donde nos trajo lo de la subvención. Todavía no he recibido ninguna noticia de que hayan hecho alguna concesión.

¿Tendré más información sobre eso más adelante? No ha ido nada.

Sí, puedes ir adelante y hacer pujas por los artículos. ¿Puja formal? Probablemente solo tendría... ¿La puja? We are not trying to scratch anyone's back. We are just trying to get something that is available and that is a good offer.

Why?

As Bono said, some of these people will not keep it for the 15 days necessary for us to make an offer. They will say, well, tomorrow someone will come to buy it. If you want it, tell us that you want it.

Look, you buy, it's worth making an offer and then a person from the commission will keep going.

They will approve it.

When you say go shopping, you mean... He is the one who has to manage the shopping.

Yes, that would be Jonathan. Any other questions for Mariana?

Thank you very much.

In the month of July we had a total of 919 calls. As you can see, the flames in the new union increased a bit. It was 82 in July, 4 watches, 65 in Manchester, 167 in Tomanord and 182 in South. And we had 3 mutual aid. Here you have the race data, the time of shooting, 1 minute and 20 seconds. Estamos trabajando para que vuelva a ser como antes. Tiempo de respuesta, 7 minutos y 12 segundos. Tiempo medio en la escena, 14 minutos y 41 segundos. Tiempo total de llamada, 9 y 11, 46 y 4, el día de mayor actividad. Fue el viernes y el horario de mayor actividad fue de 4 a 5 pesos. Here it is, we have half of the fleet above 200.

So let me put you a little to the day.

I spoke with Custom Truck and Body Works, which is building our unit that we asked for, I think, at the beginning of spring of this year.

And he sent me an email. The deadline is scheduled for March 28, 2027.

I say, what could it be? In February?

Esperamos la entrega de esa unidad a principios de primavera. Como con la subvención de salud rural para comprar una ambulancia. Recibí un correo hace un par de semanas diciendo que si no habían pedido una, no lo hicieran. They will send new contracts or agreements in a period of three or four weeks. They have changed the text. And the two most important things are that they have extended the delivery date until August 31, 2028. Which was something important for us to buy one of these.

That we would have to buy.

I think it has to be new. No, it has to be delivered. It has to be delivered before August 28th.

Well, yes.

Because if we install this ambulance this spring...

y llega el 27.

Siempre lo instalemos antes de que termine este año. Sabemos que veo.

No es mi área de especialización.

Mary, yes, I do.

Yes, well, we're going to get this ambulance. We're going to get a free one. We're going to get a free submission.

We're going to get the one we asked for.

And now, with luck, we'll be able to push for one quickly through the purchase. I don't see any reason why next year we'll give you one.

Well, the way it would work, I think, Doctor, is that we'd buy one that would take away a space. We'd get another one. And then we'd have to push for one. That would take away the other third. I said third. What is the mandatory number of miles to leave them out of service?

I don't think there is an obligatory number of miles.

The state must inspect them annually. Once they reach the mark of 2,000 miles, they must be inspected annually. 30,000 miles or 30,000 miles. Every 30,000 miles, what happens first. I mean, a perfect scenario would be to ask for an ambulance every two years.

Once we get to the point.

in which we have to go every year for the next three years, since they will give us a free one, we can do it every two years. So, I want to say that... Well, you said you wouldn't make an order until the new contract is signed and then it goes back to the health commissioner. We have to wait.

They told us that... What is the deadline to deliver that?

I think they said this was a little over a week ago. They were going to try to deliver the new agreements or contracts to the counties for this.

The only reason I mentioned that is that I think we have to be at the beginning of the line because there are 95 counties. We know how difficult it is to get ambulances now. And you have 95 counties without private services, but with this subsidy you definitely have 95 counties that are thinking the same as us. We are asking. Because if we wait until the end, it will be. That ambulance could. Let's do what we have to do to program it in a way. We want to obtain the signature of the mayor. So, we need to know the deadline in which all the documents are ready, the scheduled offers to be sent to whoever. As soon as the contracts are signed, we obtain... We already have our specifications.

We use some... ...as soon as it is signed... ...the commission... Once the mayor signs it, he sends it back to the department and they say it's fine and you could clearly ask for it on the day.

But come on, but many other people are going to take longer and they are not organized. But I think we have to be.

Well, the day it opens, we have to have that thing in March. That model from 2012 has a box that we can reassemble. What unit number?

Number 30.

And it looks like it's a 2012 box, so that would speed things up a lot, right? This is one of your rooms, so why don't we plan to reassemble it? And then you know, we have one on the way. You ask for one and the next one will be to reassemble it. That. Technically the third one is possible. The third one would be to reassemble it. How much does it cost?

Just reassemble it.

Hemos investigado sobre las nuevas monturas, pero han subido bastante de precio.

Ahorrarías algo de dinero, pero no tanto como que han subido bastante de precio.

Pero que probablemente siga mereciendo la pena.

La pena ahorrar. It's basically an inspection of the

And then comes the state, look at the exterior of the unit.

Check the interior equipment. Do you think all this is covered for $500? Per unit. I think we should go to the mountain.

What do you mean? If you have a unit in service. What kind of delivery do you expect for a assembly? 90, 120 days, probably depending on the workload. Well, that gives us a little time. In the second part of the new contract, they added some writing to include a load of power and a power elevator. The amount of money has not changed. I think it's still 12. And something else.

Well, we can get the same power, the power elevators that we have now, right? We do when we solicit that, because we have a maintenance agreement.

When the other five below have to go to the workshop or repair them, they change them to one of the three above. Units 34 and 35 do not have load capacity.

That is why the crew does not like to go up to units 34 and 35 and it is understandable. So if we have load capacity available, we always try to put them in a unit with load capacity.

I mean, just thinking about the way we keep them in reserve right now, you know, and if we buy new units, unless you're going to start taking something out of the reserve, we're going to have a pretty big fleet.

There are those units, apart from the fact that they do not have a load of power. So is there any reason not to use it?

Simply use it until we are ready to buy another unit. And then I take it off and it comes out, it seems that we would have to keep it. We won't need to keep all that stuff, right? Yes, without a doubt I can take a look at it and see. I guess it's an idea, even about reassembling that box. The electric lift part is part of the box. You have the electric charge that you press the button.

The lift goes down. The electric charge. The path.

You put the stretcher in its place, in its place. But that has to be compatible with that box. It has to be compatible.

The electric charge does not have. You can put it in any box. Okay.

Because it's fine. It does not go in any box.

But that box does not have it now. 34 and 35 do not have the electric charge.

Now you have 34. Now they are transferable.

So you can transfer the energy charge.

The number 36 is over and we decided to get rid of it because it is not reassembleable.

You can take it out of that box of 34.

That box would have that unit. Well, I would say that when you change it, I hope you get a new chassis for that. Of course. I mean, if you want to use it, if you want to use it, as you said, you could reassemble it, you could change it and then use that truck until we have it.

What do you mean?

This is something like, well, I'm looking at both sides of the question. It is better to go ahead and reassemble it because it is from 2012, so you know, without a doubt, I think that truck is worn out.

From the perspective of the engine, I mean, it is one of the youngest, the second most. Lo estoy leyendo bien.

Algo sobre, ya sabes... ¿Cómo sentí?

¿Cómo sentí? ¿Cómo sentí?

I don't know how hard it is

Yes, they are extractable and can be moved from one unit to another.

That means it doesn't have to be done in a workshop. But it can be done.

It seems that that would be what it should be done because it seems that you are not using it so much because it has no charge. You said you didn't like it.

Correct. It doesn't have it. Because you said you didn't like it, that they didn't like to use it because it didn't have a power charge.

Correct.

But being almost one of the younger engines, I don't know if I would have put a load on it. And I would have put it in rotation.

That's what I think. And I'm just going to use it while he has some life left and then.

I want to say that he has a good heart and legs. I would use it while the chassis and everything is fine.

For me, since we have a new Juliano, it seems that only. We don't need him.

So we could also use them, get rid of them. Keep the kilometers out of them.

If we can, oh, you know, have them all in rotation, as many as we can.

We rotate, as they said, or we rotate because Manchester obviously has more kilometers.

Las rotamos en algún momento para aliviar un poco el kilometraje. Las cuadrillas flotan las unidades. Solíamos rotarlas y no sé por qué dejamos.

Podría ayudar a la limpieza. We had a problem with one here three or four weeks ago. They could fix it.

How is that truck? I don't know if you understand me.

Manchester, New Union, Exxon. If we did it this way, we would be in California.

What is the rotation now? We are talking about the crew. And how was it? Finally. ...to enter the circle... ...if the new syndicates were to accompany them, in the end, they would all get to the truck at some point, and then the mileage... ...would be reduced, once they did it, because they were not going to transport... Now, yes, I've heard the phone call to be a guard in the center of communications and suddenly I receive a call in Beach Grove and I have to go. That's something, right?

Yes, that's right. One. What do you think is good for doctors?

How to make the trucks rotate?

Are there any problems? You know, for me it's like, hey, being a guard in a hospital or first year as an intern. You're trapped in that call room. One year.

I'm a little older.

Well, it's like, oh god, I can't wait to get there because...

I don't know. Some of them feel like that, but that's it.

You know, it's not that big trucks are basically the same. Well, simply.

Yes, trucks are basically the same, except the 43. The question arises, the captains are in the 41, yours is configured for your type of operation and those things. The question is if we could stay in the 41 and rotate all the other units.

Well, talk to the guys. I'll talk to them, you know, if there are more than simple miles that we are seeing.

Well, just. Here's a stupid question. Why does the truck have no brakes?

They have their own equipment. Your things. Personal things. Well, just. They carry, for example, a piece of equipment that I suppose could move. That's it. SP, not an SPO. A portable device of... Monoxide. One of the things that I love. They probably have equipment in their truck. A normal truck.

That they can answer anywhere.

We can't afford a carbon monoxide treatment that is in every car. They may have certain things that are not in every truck. I don't know how many of those pieces there are. You can investigate.

We don't need a vote. We all agree on this.

I don't think it requires a motion and a vote. But only, you know, as we talk about the transfer.

Yes. Personnel. Se necesitan cinco médicos. Ahora, ese número cinco, tres de ellos están tratando de sacar a los capitanes del camión.

Pues, en lo que respecta al campo, inmediato en el campo dos, no tenemos a nadie con compensación, ni a nadie con licencia médica.

Nuestros empleados acaban de empezar la facultad de medicina esta semana, esta semana. Había visto ese 00 un tiempo. And then I interviewed a doctor on time last week and he had to meet with So that will give us another doctor on time And this slide here is a little different, it's not that big If you look at Julio, the right extreme column still looks good We have done some improvements

Very good.

Any questions for- Good job. Thanks.

Good.

Later on I have something to show you. Let's get to that point. Building. We have already added it and it is ready to be published. Do you have any questions about it? When will it be published? I don't know. We'll find out later. Well, I hope to be able to talk to you later. New things. Form a hiring committee for a new director.

Okay.

Let me start with what I have, and then you will intervene when we have reviewed how I think it should be. And I base myself on things that the county has already done in terms of interviews and...

Okay. Here is a little chronology. The first thing we do is publish the job post.

Then, once the job post has been published, the candidates... Ali will have a work session. Heather will take care of this. She herself will select the people using her qualifications. Then we will have a work session and we will reduce the field more to take it manageable. The third is the committee. I would like it to be external, not only external people, but external people that consist of two members of the board, a representative of the fire department, a representative of the fire department of Manchester and a director of the emergency medical service that limits. Why so many firefighters? Because they work with the emergency medical service. Calls are attended by the emergency service. Manchester is also preparing to enter. In that area, since we approved some, they want to enter in that area. So I think, you know, they need to have an opinion since they are going to work with them. They work with it. You know, I probably know that they serve more medical calls than pharma calls.

The department is very comfortable.

And the director of the emergency medical service is someone external.

You know, that touches the condo. And that knows how this condo works. And that gives us another good.

Very good. After interviewing the candidates, we reduced them to... When they interview the candidates, they will give us three or two recommendations. We will have the work session before an ordinary meeting and then we will have the work session and an informal interview with those three candidates.

As an informal interview.

I mean, it's not the formal interview process that they went through with the committee. We just present them one by one, we talk to them, we just try them out, it's fine.

The recommendations, like the two or three, there are three.

Recommendations, the three, the three that they recommended. And if we review them and we are not satisfied with the three, we discard them. We can always return them and leave them. And then, if the authority of AMUS, we will vote for the one we want. How many applicants are expected to apply? Eder said that there were people who submitted their applications and he told them that he could not accept them because we had not yet published them. They can be 10 and they can be 25.

I think it's restrictive to say that there are 25 candidates and then we will be the ones who get the final vote. Basically, we will be given to choose between two or three. Well, one thing.

Before we create a committee, and maybe you already know how to put the cart in front of the guys, or maybe you are doing exactly the right thing when creating a committee, but it could be that you only have, for when Heder analyzes them, it could be that you only have 3 or 4 or 5 people.

To start.

And now we have created a committee. If there are 30 applicants, I would say yes, we probably need a committee to analyze it a little. But if we only have, let's say, less than 10, I think we would simply do it internally. We wouldn't need a committee. That could happen and I think it would be like this. What we decide here, I think, is to configure it. How we have it now gives a different perspective because you have... I think it would be great to have a perspective on the department. You have it and there would be nothing to stop you if we had a situation like this.

In which the doctors of the ambulance meet and say, hey, get out. Do you have any questions? Let's hear what kind of... We don't have to...

Well, this is what I'm trying to do, trying to keep us out of the interview process, except for the two who want to be. Well, I mean, two, as I have it configured, two members of the Board of the Ambulance Authority will be in that committee, trying to keep us out of the interview process. Because you're talking about... I don't know if we have several members, you're talking about two or three dates of interviews, or maybe two dates of interviews. You're talking about not going to meet to do the interviews at this time of day, you could do them at 10 in the morning, just when she scheduled it. So I'm trying to avoid that, you know, we have regular meetings every day, so I'm trying to keep it that way. Or have committees like this, because I know that the fire departments can be here. During the day, you can be here almost at any time. If you get the officers or supervisors who will be, they can be here. The director of the CEM, he can be here.

Two members of the board, but if we only have five doing the interviews, we may not even have to come. From A3, you know, because you can't be outside.

During what time will the job offer be published?

During what time?

During what time will they accept applications?

Or what is the custom? About 10 days. So we have time to see how many will be presented. I think that in the meantime, I want to form that committee in case we have 20.

y así podamos seguir adelante.

Creo que todavía tenemos voz y botones.

¿De acuerdo? Creo que nosotros decimos que así es como va a ser. Como dijo el doctor Kirchner. Siete buenos candidatos. ¿Cómo lo presentamos el proceso?

Terminaría respetuosamente antes de nuestra próxima. Entonces tendremos un número para saber... ¿Cuántos se presentaron? Al menos Missy o Missy Heather podrían darnos ese número para la próxima reunión y luego decir, bueno, hay 30 presentados.

Eliminé a 5. ¿Tienes 20?

También es una buena oportunidad para nosotros, creo, en lugar de dejar competir con contratación, digo, oye, estas son las dos personas que creamos que necesitas elegir. I like the idea that if there are 10 people, we can sit down there. I can look, I've been looking for decades, it hasn't happened. All of you have candidates in different places where you work, you look at them and say, hey, this looks like a good candidate, let's see. I'm curious, I'd like to know a little about them, instead of, I don't want to come one day and say, hey, 25 people presented themselves. You can choose between two. Well, you're going to trust the people on the quest.

When we have that first work session, you will know them because you will check each one of them. You have 25, you will check each one of your applicants.

And they will be ready so that you can see who they are before the interviews begin.

I was going to say, as I understand, Tim, what you said was that we, as a work session, for the communication of the authority, we will check all the applicants. We will look at them according to what we see in the resumes and we will say, okay, here,

And then we've seen them all. They're going to do the interviews that the committee would do. And then they'll give us another number. That's what they did.

Three or two back and then we're going to say.

Well, we mentioned it and I think it's okay. You weren't here. It's not just to say, you know, the committee. You know, Frank, it's there. You could say, well, hey, I know the cousin of this guy and they were fantastic. He did great things in another state. And he's just not known in this area. But that's... You talk and we say, yes, do it.

You shouldn't be alone.

I don't think we should let the decision be reduced to... You know, sometimes you have to look at the person instead of... But we're going to review them.

You know, Heder, we're going to review them.

We're going to review them twice.

Take the committee.

You know, once we give the committee a number, let's say we give them 10 people or whatever.

Y luego, si no nos gustan los tres, siempre podemos... Oigan, tendrán que volver. Bueno. Bueno, si los escuchas con un tracer, podremos pasarnos eso. Así que... Quizá no lo haga. No, nos quedan 10 minutos. Nos quedan 15 minutos. Así que deberíamos haber terminado. Debería. No lo digo yo. Así que... Y vamos a estar, vamos a estar viendo, vamos a saber todos sus nombres incluso antes de que los entremos. Vamos a ver quiénes son. Tendremos una idea de quién es.

En nuestra cabeza.

Creo que probablemente todos hemos recibido algún comentario sobre algunas de las preocupaciones que me han expresado. ¿Quién está eligiendo? No es necesario.

¿Quieres saber? Bueno, vamos a hacer la selección.

Y yo digo, bueno, ya sabes, es un trabajo en progreso.

You know? I don't think so.

I had a vacancy for a farm. How many did I have?

And we're talking about different agencies, I know, but... How many farmers have submitted a request? 32. I've seen that they have submitted requests of 50. And it could be, and if that's the case, we probably would have to do something different. But unless there is a... I mean, seriously, are you talking about creating this committee? Well, you know, it's going to be two out of five. If we organize it the way you want, we'll be two out of five.

You know you want to go without a roof in Manchester, you have two.

And that's why you're asking about adding one more and one more.

You don't have to make it a number. Well, yes.

Well, that's what I say. Well, that would be the fifth. Two, four, five. You have to have a tie number. Okay. Yes, that's what I say. Do you see us at two? Dos y luego un director de servicios médicos de urgencia.

Bueno, para conseguirlo, quiero decir, en realidad solo sería elegir a tu director de servicios médicos de urgencia y a nosotros dos, porque ya conoces a los jefes de bomberos que vas a... Pero puede que no lo hagas. Podemos dejarlo, pues. O sea, podemos dejar de elegir a una persona que tenga experiencia.

El jefe de bomberos tiene experiencia en emergencia. Eso está. ¿Has hablado con ellos para ver si tienen acuerdo? He hablado con algunos...

But I think it won't be a problem.

Do you think that will be a problem? for homicides. I don't think it's a problem. I suppose that the reason why I say this is that I don't think that if we postpone the creation of the committee until we know how many people we are going to have to submit a request. And if we go ahead and do it as Frankie said, and we had it ready before the next meeting. If we have an avalanche, then we will create a committee. If we have half a dozen requests, then we will not worry about everything. We will simply receive information from the people.

The opinion of the fire department, then we do not fear.

And what do you think? Well, in any case, what would be the problem? What would be the problem if we didn't have?

As Jeff said, you know, if we had an avalanche, well, we don't have a dozen. What would be the problem in the work session if it happened to have a firefighter on each side and another director of emergency medical services that come? Well, we can wait until the next meeting and see how many candidates

We can do it. I don't think we're going to tell him. I don't have to tell him.

That's how it is. I would like it to be.

But I would talk to the fire chiefs to make sure they agree. I'm sure they agree.

That's for sure.

If they don't, I want to tell them.

I don't think I have any problem. The manager is getting a little more into this. I don't think they're going to have it.

The only problem would be to find it.

And I have names on both sides that could... No problem.

I don't want to mention it here because... Any of them would be, any one who touches our... We haven't asked him yet, so... We haven't asked him. Don't worry. They haven't asked him yet, but... No, not yet. I think he'll do it. Who would be the one to say? I think he'll do it. We're going to leave him, but don't worry. What we have, then we won't have, you know, it may not be a point. If we get 5, if we get 50. If we get 50, we'll probably have to do something. Well, I say that we are going to get between 15 and 20. Yes, but Heather will analyze some of that. So if you get 15, 20, you can get 10 of that. That's what I hope. And if we're lucky, we'll have to see what she says.

She will simply eliminate those who alone.

Eliminate those who do not meet the requirements or have not met the deadline or... It may be that there are 10 of them who do not meet the requirements. I will only eliminate the technical part. As you have said, those who do not meet the deadline, those who do not deliver on time, that kind of thing.

I'm sorry you haven't arrived.

That kind of thing.

I will not review anything. That to say, no, you are not getting it.

This is what. I will call Heather and ask her to publish the work. And I'll ask her how many days are, you know, I don't forget how many days are of publication, but she will publish it. So, when I finish, we'll see how many we have. And luckily it will be before the next meeting.

We have to continue from there.

Agreed. I think everyone is good. Agreed. And we will continue forward and we will talk about the next meeting. It seems good. Yes, it seems good to me. I mean, it seems good to this committee that 30 or 20 come.

I agree with myself. Look how it feels.

If we only have three, the story is different.

A different story.

We would like to invite the fire departments to come.

The interview.

We have a low number, we will choose a fruit. We have a higher number, we will take another. Sounds good? Sounds like everyone. Okay, we will continue to talk. Telerla loan agreement, F-15 cardiac monitor. Can I talk? Bueno, sí, pues, eso. ¿Quieres venir? Tal vez venir.

Vale.

Hace poco se nos acercó el departamento de bomberos. Están dando una clase. Nos preguntaron si podíamos prestarles uno de nuestros monitores cardíacos más antiguos que ya no se utilizan. Moción para... Acuerdo estaba escrito. Lo firmó el presidente Stubblefield y el administrador de la ciudad. Correcto, Zach. So there would be no responsibility if there was a malfunction. Are you going to download it? Are you going to use it?

I don't think so. I think we should do it.

So, what do you do with those packages? I mean, do you train with them? Do you train with them? They're just there. What do we do with them? I mean, do we buy three of them?

When we buy them and they're there doing nothing, what do we finally do? We try to change them for another team.

Is that enough to worry me?

Is that enough to worry me?

Because I was going to suggest that if we have something like that, why not? If we have a pair that we are never going to use.

Why don't we donate it to each of the departments?

I will try to get some exchange rate. Because it has instructors.

I'm sure Manchester is going to have instructors. Yeah.

You have an exchange rate. I don't know what. I don't know what the exchange rate is. If it doesn't seem like much, then. It will probably be worth more to us if they form that for the exchange it will benefit us.

Well, what I mean to say is that since they're going to be attending by phone, Manchester is about to start attending the calls. It would probably be beneficial to give them the money, just to let them have it. That's how you're going to help them.

Associated with the team they're going to help.

Agreed. We agree with him.

Well, the parking lot of the Manchester station that I saw the other day with Pogo is quite damaged. And if you want, I have some photos here. All the parking lot and the main entrance are in a sad state.

That's the worst of the worst.

It's very deep. When they come in and out of the bay, we can't keep it clean for all the mud, the water. I don't know if it was recorded a while ago, but as you can see. I think this was on the capital disbursement agenda recently.

Capital disbursement.

He's fixing it.

He addressed that.

Rick had already addressed it and said that in reality it was included a couple of years ago for capital projects.

It was eliminated. For some strange reason, for whatever reason, he said he was eliminated. He didn't do it, he didn't do it. He explained that he would arrive soon. I said, well, we have the meeting next week anyway, so I think they're waiting for our motion.

We have a motion and a second. Any other discussion about this? This is what has to happen. Hey Paul, what's going to happen? Because Rick explained that literally because of its thickness, they're going to have to lift all the asphalt. In my opinion, it's going to have to break.

That's right.

He said he's going to compact it again.

I'm going to put several inches because of the weight of it. Where are they going to be? What are they going to do?

It depends on how long this project is.

You just have to move them. We have to move them.

Back to the old house.

Back to the old house.

See you in September.

Have a good night. You too.