Planning and Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

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The city has satisfied the legally required public notice requirements for this public hearing for items four, five, and six.

Will the board clerk please swear on the witnesses for agenda items four, five, and six?

Anyone wishing to speak on items four, five, and six, four is the Vinca Mulder overlay area, five, and six are related to the Main Street project area, Block 8, and park open spaces. Please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you. When you get called forward to speak, please state your name clearly for the record and your address and state whether or not you've been sworn in and whether or not you understand the rules of the proceedings.

Thank you. We will now hear agenda item number four, amendments to the land development code and zoning map to adopt the Venke Equestrian Neighborhood Overlay area.

Are there any disclosures on behalf of the board for agenda item four particularly related to the zoning designation of the Venkemlder Equestrian Neighborhood Overlay? Seeing none, appreciate your responses. Thank you.

None.

The city staff as the applicant will now make its presentation please.

Thank you madam chair. Good evening. Justin Proppet, director of sustainable development. I put a few slides together here just to outline some of the updates to the the agenda item and the ordinance here tonight. If you recall last time we had a December on 12/11/2024 at the board meeting, we held the public hearing and that was continued to this meeting tonight.

In between that period of time, city staff as directed by the board revised the draft ordinance to address concerns raised by several business owners and property owners in the Vancomlder neighborhood. With those changes, we've prepared the agenda item tonight. And just so you know, revisions were made to a couple sections of the ordinance. We've refined the definition section and some of the definitions related to this ordinance. We've revised the prohibited uses and we deleted the exemption section and we'll go into some of those changes in detail.

So the section on definitions, what we've done there is we've combined the definition of plant and tree nursery excluding sales operations and plant and tree wholesale trade, we've made that as one definition of a plant and tree nursery. We've also transferred that definition into our traditional definitions portion of our land development code, just for clarity, that's where it really belongs. And because it it's also relates to other districts throughout our city, so that should be in our general definition section. Let's see. So the the the I think the most important thing to point out on this change is it ensures that plant and tree nurseries excluding sales operations remain listed remain listed as a permitted use in the A one zoning category.

So, in the section of prohibited uses, there were some concerns about some of the land uses that were being prohibited in the Overlay District. We heard those concerns and we've made some revisions. So the We've removed landscape and lawn maintenance from the prohibited use list, but I wanna really clarify something because it sounds like there may be a misunderstanding about that particular land use. That particular land use is not a permitted use currently in A1. I think last time it may have been misunderstood that that's currently permitted and we were prohibiting it.

Only reason why we were adding it to that was because we wanted to be very clear in this new ordinance that that's not a permitted use. So, but we took it out because it was causing more confusion than anything else. So all that does, all that change does for that particular use is just maintain current code which is not permitted in A1. That remains unchanged. Plant and tree nurseries including sales operations.

This use was deleted from the prohibited uses category in the overlay ordinance. So that will still be a ongoing permitted land use in A one and in particular in this overlay area. Okay, so this section, the last section we revised relates to exemptions, and that exemption was for businesses that were being prohibited in this new overlay area. Now that we took some of those out, we did no longer felt that this exemption was necessary. We've existing land development code regulations that that can handle land uses that are permitted in A1, so we do not feel that this provision is necessary anymore.

So, that concludes our presentation. Your But just so you know, your backup includes some charts just for clarity. We've created three charts. The first two charts show you existing regulations for A1 agriculture. The second chart shows you existing regulations for r s one.

As you recall, there's two separate zoning categories existing in the neighborhood. And then the final chart shows you when you combine it all together under an overlay, this is what it looks like in terms of how land uses would be permitted. Now, the ordinance is written this way now. I have highlighted a few of them just because they were topics of conversation in the past. So this is the full chart of how all the different land uses would be permitted or especially land used or whatever else or prohibited in the Winkenmulder Equestrian Neighborhood Overlay Area.

So that concludes our presentation. Again, our recommendation is for you to approve the revised ordinance and also as we stated before in the previous public hearing, you're also recommending adoption of the master plan as well. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay. I'm gonna open the public hearing board clerk. Is there anyone who has signed in to speak on agenda item number four?

Yes. We have several people signed in. First person we have signed in to speak is Shane Humble. Again, if you can just state your name and address for the record, whether or not you've been sworn in, and whether or not you understand the rules of the proceedings.

Sure. Good evening. My name is Shane Humble, from Complete Property Maintenance. Address is 4101 Vincomalda Road. And, I do understand the statements, agreed to.

First, I'd just like to acknowledge, the city of Coconut Creek, the officials, and the board, though thank you for having this meeting this evening. Here tonight, really, just to express my appreciation for the city's efforts to establish the Vinca Mulder overlay. You know, we also endorse the need to preserve this unique character of the neighborhood. First off, for removing the prohibition on the nurseries and recognizing the value of the long established uses, we also agree that they fit well into the overlay's goals. CPM just celebrated thirty five years operating at this very address responsibly and staying in good standing with the city and adding to that area of stability and economic well-being.

So we just like to mention that because it's been a long time, October 1989. So, anyway, we greatly appreciate the city's verbal commitment to allow CPM's established operations being in good standing and, to continue unimpeded. We just ask that these assurances be maintained in practice and on the record, especially as we anticipate some probably increased code efforts, increasing over time here. And, again, I would just like to reiterate our support and our readiness to work with the city and the board to ensure that this overlay is successful. So I thank you very much.

That's it.

Okay. Next we have Joseph Pastora signed in to speak.

Hello. My name is Joseph Pastora. I live at, 4060 Vinkemuller Road. I've been living there for twenty five years and I absolutely love it. I love the character. I love everything about it. And I really don't want it to change except I'm against private and public schools being let into the neighborhood. This would be a disaster. And, I don't know if you know, but in 2004, mister Nast in God's Little Acres proposed a seven story school. We were against it.

We fought it. And believe it or not, we lost. I wanna make sure that it doesn't happen again because all of the commissioners voted for it. Even though 95% of the neighborhood was here saying we didn't want the big yellow school buses going back and forth and parents sitting in their cars with their engines running, picking up and dropping off children. I don't think that would be good for the horses, and I really want to keep it the way it is except for that.

I mean to find something like this, as I talked to Sandra Welch today, I didn't get three minutes. Did I?

Yeah. I I said it.

Okay. Well, anyway, I spoke to Sandra Welch expressed my feelings there. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Next we have Eola Cook signed in.

I'm a little bit taller. Hi, good evening. My name is Eola Cook and I'm actually here representing my properties, Fanaway Properties LLC where we operate Spitfire Farm. So we have a five acre farm on 4201 Vancomlder Road. I'm realizing now I have three minutes, so I need to go very fast. I do have documents for everybody with some of those suggestions I had going through the revisions. The first thing is that I wanted to make reference to would you like Same part of my time. I just want to recall and first of all, you. Thank you to the city for listening to us. Know you hear our residents and the things that we're looking to protect the beautiful community that we have because once green space is gone, it never comes back.

The purpose of this and this is actually in the intent since that the neighborhood seeks to maintain the neighborhood's residential and recreational nature while enhanced traffic safety, circulation, infrastructure, environmental and it's being called the equestrian overlay. So, I want to make reference to the point of the horses. So, when I go through this, I'm on page five and I went down the definitions. So, we have certain definitions including bona fide agricultural purposes, there's a farm. One of the things I don't see is anything related to equine activities and I would suggest and recommend and it's in the packages that we include a definition for equine activities pursuant to Florida Statute 77,301.

I think it's very important because we've had quite a few issues this past year with gray areas with the city and I think the more we're defined, the happier we are with our neighbors. And that statute is in the packet that I just provided you. The next section is Section four under definitions for non residential farm building. It appears that this code is adding additional language to the definition which is not required under the statute. I would simply request that we remove the language that says and as classified as agricultural land under section 193.461.

I've provided you with the Florida Building Code Statute which is cited, it's five fifty three. There's no requirement that the land actually be classified for tax purposes to be qualified as a farm building or non residential farm building. So, I simply ask that we adhere to the terms of the statutes which is five fifty three and six zero four and perhaps include that language within the definition itself, so there's no confusion. Part of the problem that we're currently having is that every time we sell our agricultural property, that tax exemption is gone. March 1, if you buy your farm on June 1 and you want to build stall or a farm right now, the city considers that under Florida Building Code.

Florida Building Code doesn't consider it under Florida Building Code, but we now have appeals going on based on magistrate's decisions. So I think we have an opportunity here right now to go ahead and make those corrections so that doesn't happen again. I only have seventeen seconds. My other big one actually, my two other big ones is I'm requesting that for the private and the public school definitions that we adhere to the statutory languages. I put those notes in there. The statutes are in my package. Also, the language regarding assembly conflicts with the equine activities that's in there as well. But I think other people are going to speak on that.

Next, have Drew Phillips.

Drew Phillips, 4320 Vincamolar Road. I was sworn in and I understand. I will speak about assembly. I don't think that it's clear enough what you mean by that. I'd like an actual number, not greater than x because, I mean, we we live in an area where frankly we have more parking than everyone. So my assembly at Thanksgiving might be a 100 people. I mean, that's not uncommon. That type of thing. I'd like an actual definition of not greater than whatever. Second was in the equestrian portion.

It says this this exemption does not apply to the street tree requirements. Horses are finicky. They've got really sensitive digestive systems. And if you have a horse that can't deal with eating on trees or shrubs or things like that, like, we should be allowed to not have them. I mean, I think my biggest issue is I've been living here since 1983 on that same property, and you guys have been more involved in the last year and a half than ever.

I mean, we used to shoot shotguns in the backyard, but there was nothing around at the time. You know, I lived there when Coquina was a tomato field. So it's an awful lot different. Lyons Road was a two lane road. But all I'm saying is we we got involved in this so that the community wouldn't change, not so that we got more and more and more codes.

Thank you. Next

we have Andy and Michelle Cody.

We don't get six months.

Andrew, Cody?

Michelle, Cody.

We were I was wondering we do understand. We're 4551 Northeast 39th Avenue. And I think that what we're wanting to address is that an initiative that started out to eliminate drug rehabs and large assemblies, like a mega church, has turned into four items: Golf courses. Well, first, it's hunt clubs, golf courses, places of assembly, and and and and schools. The problem with this is that places of assembly is a very, very broad term, and I think that without additional definition of what a place of assembly is, it could be construed to be a soccer field.

It could be construed to be an arena. Everything that I've read says that an arena is a place of assembly, and the majority, or at least 20 a large number of the residents have arenas. And, those arenas are where people are going to watch social activities. The other thing that's brought up is places of assembly. So, once again, something that started out to be let's not let drug rehabs, or mega churches, or conglomerate schools has turned into let's eliminate places of assembly, or let's reduce schools.

And then, with schools, what is a school? So, our program is a home school support program that's paid for by the state. We get thousands of dollars thousands and thousands of dollars every month in order to provide a support program. We were determined, in our opinion improperly, to be a school. So, if our program is not allowed, then that means that the If our program is considered a school, which it's not, then that means that any sort of home school co op is now going to be under suspect by the code enforcement of Coconut Creek, because they happen to have 20 families that want to have their kids socialized, rather than isolated in one home.

They want to maybe have a co op, which the state is pushing. And, under here, those are about the only two things that I can see. And, I know that hunt clubs and golf courses are on there, but hunt clubs and golf courses, we both know that those aren't gonna exist. So then we just have basically this entire meeting and this entire zone overlay comes down to just two things. Schools, and what's the definition of a school, and places of assembly. And what's the definition of places of assembly? And I don't think that either one of those are defined enough to be able to actually make a vote because it's unknown what we're voting for. That's all.

Thank you.

And last, we have Bryant Moyer signed in to speak.

Hi. Bryant Moyer, forty three sixty Vinkemolder. Been sworn in Pryor. I just wanted to make sure that the land uses as they are existing prior to the annex from Berg County have not changed regardless of definitions changing for what the city has injected. That's up to the city attorney. Right? City attorney said that the land usage won't change, just the definitions which are included in the master plan. Right? I wanna be clear on that. You all said you'll recognize the existing law as it is, not writing it when you open this meeting.

So he changed definitions, but not the usage. Existing usage. Right? Somebody has to clarify that for the crowd. We can't respond during this period.

Okay.

Right. Do you have anything else to say or would you like to?

Nope, that's it.

All right.

Thank you very much. You

for hearing me.

Thank you everyone. Is there anyone else who did not sign up that would like to speak on this item? No? Okay, does city staff? Nobody else? Thank you. Does city staff have any questions for anyone who has spoken on this item?

No, no questions.

Thank you. If there's no further questions, the public hearing is now closed. Okay. Do any members of the board have any questions for the city staff or anyone who has spoken on this item?

I think at some point we need Mr. Proffitt to address some of the issues raised by these folks. But, in terms of, recall last week I saw an issue with the issue of variances. And, there's a specific provision that variances are not allowed with regard to residential building.

I'm sorry, can you speak closer to the mic in?

Okay. Yeah, the last time I had, there was an issue that I raised because it specifically prohibits variances with regard to basically residential lot sizes of two acres. And I don't know if there's a general question as to whether hardship variances exist in the code or not. I'm not that familiar with the overall lane use code. But it seems to me that, I don't know why that particular section singled out to say there are no variances allowed.

Hardship variances, at least in my experience was they're generally to be permitted to avoid people having properties zoned into in utility. So it's still in here. So for example, you say I inherited a piece of property in 1954, was supposedly was two acres, I wanna sell it for whatever reasons. Now, turns out it's 1.9 acres. Well, according to the variance, I can't, I'm stuck.

My neighbors won't sell me any property, now what do I do with it? So, I'm curious as to whether the concept of hardship variance or what do we do with that? And, why is this singled out as opposed to any other uses which may be defined but that they don't particularly say that variances are not prohibited?

So, the recommendation is to not allow for variances in this overlay area. And, the reason for that is going back to the community input that we held. One of the overriding themes was lower the intensity and don't allow intense or dense types of land uses to occur in the neighborhood. So that's why you see what you've well that's why you see the list of prohibited uses that we've proposed because those are from what is allowed in the neighborhood, those are some of the more intense and dense land uses. The next thing we looked at is density.

And there was a question last time, are there any properties under two acres? There are no properties that are legally subdivided under two acres in the district. So one of the goals we're trying to do and with this particular provision is to not allow any variances to make property smaller than that because maintaining the two acre size is goes towards maintaining the character and of this neighborhood, which is the agricultural rural character and the equestrian character. Maintaining its less intense, less dense developments goes a long way of doing that. So, our code normally has a variance procedure, which is a hardship, but in this particular code, the way it's written, it is not allowed.

Alright, so that's, I guess that was my question. So, we have hardship variances other places. In fact, everywhere except this particular residential lot size. Is it my understanding of it?

Yes, they're outside of this overlay, a variance procedure, you could in particular get a variance procedure theoretically for a lot size.

Sure. So, isn't there some sort of constitutional problem? I mean you've essentially taken the property from somebody who inadvertently maybe have a property that's less than two acres.

Well, don't have a property less than two acres in this district.

Well, maybe. I mean, I'm saying you you maybe had a survey that's forty years old and it wasn't done right, now the person finds out it's a tenth of an acre or less. Yeah,

I'll just say. So I'll just say we've done the analysis in between the last meeting and and this meeting. And, there are no properties that were legally subdivided less than two acres. Alright.

Thank you.

Your variance cover unity of type in the opposite direction?

I'm sorry, the public hearing is closed.

I had a few questions for the city staff, so thanks for pointing out the revisions. It sounds like there's still some contention around prohibited uses. I mean, I just want to, I guess, help make the definitions more explicit so people understand the first four, but places of assembly. So there seems to be a legal definition for places of assembly, like there's a standard somewhere, people over a 100, something else like that.

Can you put that chart back up for us Justin please? Yeah. Thank you.

Give me a second. Yep. I have to make a bunch of clicks.

Places of assembly. So there seems to be some ambiguity around the definition. Now is there a, I guess, distinct definition that we can refer to that's that I guess the public can reference?

Yeah. So section 13 dash two nine five of the land development code Mhmm. Has a number of definitions. One of them is places of assembly. So we do have an existing definition in our land development code.

It and depending on the type of land use in that definition, the the building codes have different size limitations and if you're of a certain size for like a school, the building code will attach additional construction requirements for a building. And but it and it and it depends on numbers. So if you're but if you're another type of place of assembly, there could be different sizes and it's all it's all a scale depending on the number of occupants in a building.

Okay. So there's some sort of matrix or like you said scale depending on the use of a place. Okay. Yes. Yeah, mean I think if there's an actual definition of that and it's not ambiguous and it's in the code, then that was really my only question, reference for some of the concerns.

Yeah, and let me just, if you mind if I follow-up. The reason why that's particular land uses in there is because when we started this process and one of the factors in in initiating this process is the city was was being approached by developers of land to build more intense and dense land uses. We had requests for schools, we had requests for places of worship, we had requests for non profits and etcetera that brought more traffic The concern was more bringing more traffic into the neighborhood, densifying and intensifying lots. So places of assembly depending on the specific type would add to that concern and that's why it was put on the list of prohibited uses.

Okay, thank you. And you said it was section 13

Dash two ninety five.

If you want, can read you the definition.

I have I have a money code up. I'm looking at it right now.

So let me read it for everybody's benefit. Of assembly means a building or portion thereof used as a place where persons regularly congregate for entertainment, religious, or cultural activities or meetings, and include but are not limited to houses of worship, fraternal lodges, schools, libraries, museums, amphitheaters, theaters, stadiums, arenas, or any other publicly or privately owned facility where individuals gather for the affore stated purposes.

Thanks. That's Yeah. It for

the concern, just to keep going on the same subject, there were two examples brought up. One is something was classified as school that was something other than a school, than a conventional school. Would that be prohibited based on what you've heard? Or, is it just ambiguous and it just eventually will be clarified?

Are you talking about reference to like a homeschool co op? Is that what you're

Yeah. Well, in the commons somebody has an existing use. Yeah. And I don't know whether it was associated with equestrian use or what that use is other than people congregate and it's not a school. Guess it's for socializing. Another example was assembly by family during holidays, and apparently, you know, they had big reunions.

So, the the holiday question, I'll start with that, I think that's pretty easy. If someone has a house, and you know, in this case there's a lot of room because there's two acre lots. If someone has a home and they have an event, like say Thanksgiving or or or one of the holidays, and they have a bunch of people over, hopefully, they've talked to their neighbors. I don't think we're gonna I don't think that's gonna be an issue because that's just a one off event. It's not a permanent fixture land use that sits there all year long.

That's just a one off event. I don't think that's into the Yeah. That's not the intent with what we're regulating here. The question about the the co op homeschool, you know, our code, if you look at the way all this is written, it's very prescriptive. So, if it's stated up there, that's what you're allowed to do.

If it's not stated up there, you're not allowed to do that. So, the reference to a homeschool co op, you know, if it's not stated in our code, it's not it may not be a permitted land use. And we'd have to take a look at it and evaluate that. And there's we have procedures in our code for where something is not necessarily explicitly stated, but there are procedures in our code that outline how we evaluate that and whether or not that is actually in our code or not.

Okay. So, it sounds like the variance that was removed was just very narrow for lot size. That's right. It only And, applies the other appeal discussions that take place, that continues, nothing changed.

Yeah, just the Yes, the variance prohibition would be just for lot size, and that's that is a that goes a long way to protecting the integrity of the neighborhood in terms of what we talked about. There are no variances to use, so that would never apply. It's not gonna be state that in there, but that's just by law. There's no variances to use. So, development standards is where you would see other types of variances, setbacks, maybe landscaping or parking requirement or something like that. You could still theoretically request one of those here. Thank you. Yeah.

Chair LePlante. Good evening, Justin. How are you? Good. Just as a quick follow-up to the this variance topic, I brought it up last time as well.

The only thing that just kind of makes me a little bit sort of sympathetic to what mister Light was trying to say is that if if there are and you you're the one who did the research, not us. So, if there are some lots that are legal existing currently good, but they're like right very very close to that two acre number. The only thing that came into my mind was what if you know the city or the county came through and needed 10 feet of the front for a road right of way or something. So, if you think that is something to be considered, it could be written in there that there are no variances for this except in the case where there's been a public taking of property. That that would still give somebody the opportunity to I mean I'll just leave that to you guys if you think it's something that needs to be included to sort of having somebody get backed into a corner that there's no way out of in the future.

Okay.

Alright. That was my only other comment. Okay.

I'm really I'm fine with the amendments. I think that you did a great job. I appreciate it. Thank you. So, does the city staff have any closing remarks?

I'll just say, know, this has been a We've got a lot of folks here and I will again commend the neighborhood. There's some disagreement obviously, but the overriding goal I think we're still accomplishing and that is preserving the neighborhood and protecting the equestrian theme and in the master plan, we're not even really talking about that, but because that's another document, but the master plan will go a long way in the future in doing that, and in enhancing the neighborhood as well. I I I will reiterate, this is I think one of the most unique neighborhoods in our city and we are lucky to have the neighborhood and the folks who live here in the neighborhood here. It is special, it's relationship to and location near Tradewinds, and it you know, a lot not a lot of folks know about it, but I think as time goes on and we figure out whatever however we're gonna eventually adopt all of this when it goes to the city commission, and I'm sure we'll we'll we'll get there. It's this is going to really do what the neighborhood wants it to do, and that is preserve it for the future future and preserve these very special activities that are occurring.

Thank you.

Thank you. And, those were comments that you received when you had the two meetings, right? Of how the residents felt that just preserving it, no density, and so Yes. That's what I that's really important. Thank you, in my opinion. Are there any comments or deliberations from the board on agenda item number four? Amendments to the land codes and zoning map to adopt the Winkle Equestrian Neighborhood Overlay Area. Okay, if none, I'll take a motion on agenda item number four, amendments to the land development code and zoning map to adopt the Winkle Muller Equestrian Neighborhood Overlay Area.

I'll move to approve agenda item four.

Second.

Clerk, could you please call him off?

Okay. Mr. Light? Yes. Mr. Escoriasa?

Yes.

Mr. Briggs?

Yes.

Vice Chair Barker? Yes. And Chair LePlante?

Yes. Madam Chair, if I may, I just want to, since we have everybody in the audience, trying to give them an estimated time it will go and next steps. So, for everybody's Let's see, I'm just trying to look and see when So, the next step in this process is the board has made a recommendation to the Right. City

It's recommendation.

And, the city commission will hold two separate public hearings. That's probably going to be in the next month. I don't know which date, but there's two meetings per month. So, I will just ask folks to look out for those signs and the and the notices and it will also be posted on the city's website. And, you can still provide comments and you can still give us a call as Ejola did. I'm gonna get her documents and we can we can chat. Thank you.

Thank you everyone. Alright. So, we are now here agenda item five. If there's no objections from the board applicant, staff or the public will also hear agenda item six at the same time as they are related.

Go for it.

All good? Okay.

Are there any disclosures on behalf of the board for agenda items five or six related to Block 8 or the roadway sorry, parks and open space master plan?

No. No. No.

Okay, thank you.

None received. Thank you very much.

Alright. Thank you. The city staff will now make its presentation, please.

Good evening board members and staff. My name is Liz Aguilar, I'm the assistant director for the sustainable development department. Can you hear me well? I feel like I can't hear myself. Yeah, this one had problems last time. Okay, great. Can you hear me better? Oh, I can hear myself better.

Great. Thanks Justin.

Alright. Again, good evening board members, staff. Liz Aguirre, assistant director for sustainable development. Agenda item number five is the Main Street At Coconut Creek Block 8 site plan. The applicant, Scott Backman of Misko Backman LLP on behalf of the owner David Auld of Johns Family Partners LLP is seeking site plan approval to construct 152 townhomes and villas on Block 8 Of The Main Street at Coconut Creek PMDD located within the city's Main Street project area.

For agenda item number six, the applicant again Scott Bachman of Misko Bachman on behalf of the owner David Alt of John's Family Partners is seeking site plan approval to construct parks and amenities consistent with the Main Street at Coconut Creek PMDD and within the city's Main Street project area. So for agenda item number five for Block 8, this block of course is within the Main Street project area. At some point, it will be located at the Southeast Corner Of Northwest 40th Street which will be a new road that the developer will be constructed and banks. The applicant is proposing to construct sixty three and four bedroom townhomes plus a one car garage and plus one driveway space for each of the townhomes plus 92, two and three bedroom villas with each having two reserved parking spaces designated for each one of the villas, so 92 units, two, they will be a 184 reserved parking spaces for the villas for a total of 152 spaces, I mean I'm sorry, 152 units, plus they will also provide guest parking, 32, and they will have nine EV ready spaces plus a designated space with charger and the whole nine.

Architecture for this block is consistent with the materials, the color palettes, the roof finishes, etcetera that this board has seen

for

other blocks within the Main Street area, so they will be consistent compatible. Overall, staff finds that agenda item number five which is Block 8 site plan complies with the adopted Main street PMDD, the city's main street design standards, our application site plan application review standards and the land development code. For agenda item number six which is the Coconut Creek Parks, this is definitely not a typical site plan. Something similar to what you saw for roadways where we weren't looking at something that was vertical construction, so too is parks. Very different, but we still had to process a site plan for the parks because we wanted to see what these individual parks looked like, what the amenities were going to be, what the hardscape was going to be, what these benches were going to look like, and so it was important for staff to see how those parks related to these blocks.

So of course they're going to be constructing public parks, greenways, and typical amenities that you would see in parks, bike racks, lighting, landscaping benches, but there will also be some very unique spaces. For example, we have that u shaped walkway with the meandering concrete seat wall, shade structures at our main plaza, a huge a huge park that is going to be a beautiful common element not just to the residents but to to the residents that abut the Main Plaza but to all of Main Street. And then of course the the wetland which is a very important area to the city which we wanna protect. There's going to be a green way along the Cypress area with beautiful view corridors so you can enjoy it while it's still being protected. So a lot of work went into into this parks plan into all the plans in for Main Street and we wanted to just make sure that we took the time to do do the right thing as it related to these park amenities for our residents.

Again, staff finds that this agenda item is consistent and complies with the adopted Main Street PMDD, our adopted Main Street design standards, site plan application review requirements, our land development code, and the comprehensive plan. Staff findings are further summarized in the staff memorandums before the board and we are recommending that the board consider making a recommendation to the city commission, favorable recommendations for both agenda items and subject to conditions outlined in your staff memos. This pretty much concludes staff's presentation. Justin, anything to add? Oh, I do have a worry on it.

No. Happy to take any questions from the board, but the applicant is here this evening to make their presentation as

well. Correct. Thank you very much, Lisa. Thank you. So the applicant will now make its presentation please.

Good evening. Scott Backman on behalf of the applicant, 14 Southeast 4th Street, Boca Raton. I understand all the rules. It's great to see you all again. Give me just one moment to pull up my presentation. And I'm gonna share all the pretty pictures and plans and perspectives that go along with the description that Liz just provided all of you. Thank you for that, Liz. Let's see. And I will start start by by echoing Liz's sentiment. Hang on one second.

There we go. As it relates to the parks plan, it's a second piece of this presentation much like Liz's I think. It's agenda item number six. So I'll present on Block 8 which is one of the residential blocks and then go into the parks master plan. But I think when I was here, I wanna say maybe in December presenting to you all on the roadways, we explained a little bit about the uniqueness of of that plan.

It was probably the first and only time you're gonna see these master plan concepts because they really only happen when you have a very significantly large piece of property that's being master planned maybe happened when you know Regency Lakes and some of the other communities in years past were coming through. And so definitely very unique and unlike the roadway master plan that was very technical in nature, we walked you through that. It can be a lot of very cool and exciting and and pretty pictures associated with a lot of the elements that are incorporated into our parks master plan. So these first handful of slides at this point, we've been at this for over a year now with our various public hearings. But these are the various members of the the ownership and development team and then the consulting teams, the the ownership and development team being above the line.

And the various consultants have been part of this project from day one. We're going on about four and a half years now of planning for Main Street, getting into the finishing touches of our entitlement processes. You'll see as part of this application. And this board has seen virtually all of those applications as well. It's a it's a large PowerPoint so these every time I click on it and I there we go.

Okay. So again, you've seen a lot of this background history, the various areas that we're developing. The property that we're talking about here today is within the blue line, which is part of a larger master planned area known as a regional activity center within the city. What you see on the left hand side of the screen are a tremendous bucket of development rights that exists within this area. The DRI related items are associated with the area we have under control, which is in blue. And again, just as a reminder more for the record than anything else we're developing or proposing to develop a fraction of that. I mean maybe 10% to 15% of what was originally approved. This was all approved fifteen and twenty years ago. The world's changed. Coconut Creek's developed.

Again, you've heard a lot of this from me in the past, but I think important to reiterate is we move forward, especially since you haven't seen us in a couple of months and just understand the nature and type of development that is being put forth. It is still a very substantial and significant development project, but, pales in comparison of what what potentially could have been, which I don't think in today's Coconut Creek is necessarily desired from what might have been fifteen or twenty years ago. This is just a three d rendering of the overall plan. I've seen this before. The the block that's highlighted there in the the red outline is Block 8, which is the subject of the residential block that we'll be discussing this evening just so you can see everything else in context.

Everything else along that entire corridor that you see there in yellow and brown and in red has all been approved by this board and by the city commission. Come on. There we go. This is the our approved zoning plan. Again, just kinda gives you some general understanding of the nature and type of uses that are being proposed.

The block that's highlighted there in red toward the bottom of the screen, TH and V is townhomes and villas. That is an approved plan that was approved by this board in I believe November 2023 and then ultimately approved by the city commission in December '23 and January '24. So this is part of our approved PMDD plan that we've been then bringing our individual site plans in to corroborate with. Oops. This is Here we go.

Again, graphical plan so that everyone can see and understand the various levels of development and intensity that are approved within the overall Main Street Master Plan. The block that's highlighted shows two different unit types such as where the 65 and the 95 come from, a total of a 160. We're here today proposing a 152. That's been a consistent theme as well. There were not even at the reduced density and intensity that was approved as part of our master plan.

We're actually proposing development of slightly less than that. Obviously, this only eight units in this particular case. In some cases, it's more or less, but I don't think we're at the exact number in in any instance. And then lastly, and I mentioned this earlier, but everything in green has been approved by this board and by the city commission. The two items in yellow discussing here today.

The two items in red are still to come forward. Block 10, we all know and has been approved for at least from a master planning standpoint apartments, It'd be multi story apartments at some density that probably ranges between four and seven hundred units. Again, I think it's approved at a maximum of 700 units. Block 16 is approved for a 120 multifamily units. That block is still kinda up in the air. Again, you'll see that at some point as it comes through. Still trying to figure out exactly what direction, we're moving as a development team with that particular block. So Block 8 specifically, just under 12 acres. As I think Liz mentioned, twenty eight two story buildings. They range in size from four to eight units.

All two stories. What you've effectively have here is very similar if you all remember, although you saw it, almost a year ago. Block 1, it's on the corner of Column And Lyons across the street from the promenade. That is also a block that is a mix of rear loaded townhomes and and villas. Different product types just for everyone's reminder, a villa is effectively a two story townhome.

It doesn't have a garage, so it's it's more surface parked. The garages all the the rear loaded townhomes which you effectively see along the perimeter, It creates that additional urban feel that we've all been looking for in Main Street. The one car garages and then two car driveways for all of the rear loaded townhomes. We exceed the parking requirements, the bicycle space requirements, the pervious area requirements, all the various technical standards that are typical of a site plan review are met or exceeded within this block. This next slide is going to if it goes to the next slide, there we go.

So this gives you a feel for the amenities within this particular block, right? So we've talked about this before. The next presentation on the master plan is actually really gonna show you in specific detail. All of Main Street is highly amenitized. Parks, open spaces, you know, you're gonna see some again, I've said this a couple of times now, but some pretty cool images that we've been working on that are gonna be incorporated in these various open spaces and plazas.

But at the same time, each of the individual blocks has its own set of amenities in one respect or another, whatever they may be. So, in this particular case, there's a greenway that actually runs along the south side of the block. There are pedestrian access points to the greenway as well as to each of the surrounding roadways, sidewalks, bike paths, things of that nature. You can see the location of the mail kiosk which is centrally located, and then some of the other trellis entry features and internal pocket park specific to this block. Separate and apart from some of the pocket parks which are noted on 40th Street, those are kind of part more part of the Green Space Master Plan.

The reason why is this was mentioning, we went in the direction of creating this Green Space Master Plan because you got you have all of these items within each block, then and it became difficult as we were working through it similar to what I shared with you when I was presenting on the roadway master plan. How do you show this piece or that piece and how does everything kinda interconnect with regard to, in that case, the roadway system, in this case with what we're about to see next, the the the green space and open space system within Main Street because it was such a significant significant part of the planning process. So these next couple of slides will show you the architectural elevations for the villas and for the townhomes. I believe two or three slides from now what you'll see and I think you've seen this before. The the theme, the architectural theme within each block is slightly different and we'll show you a comparison to give you an idea of each of the various blocks and what they look like.

It also refresh your recollection of some of the things you've seen in the prior blocks so that you can see, you know, a lot of the ins and outs in the architecture of the building itself are very similar throughout Main Street, but then all the the the outside dressings, the the windows, the doors, the paint colors, those other elements kinda add and give each block specific character. So this is the townhome again slight differences between the look. You can see with the rear loaded townhomes, the front front porch, the front door kind of concept with the gates out on the road because they all front adjacent to to one of the roadways. In this case, I think 40th And 54th, I believe. And then this is a slide that I was referencing just to give you an idea of blocks one, five and six, nine, all of which you've seen and approved.

And then block eight bottom left, Just, you know, slight differences in variation so that you know you're in a different a different area of Main Street, but you still feel from an architectural standpoint that that it's all consistent and and similar. And I spent a lot of time working with your staff to try and find the right way to differentiate some of these blocks from one another. So I think we have three or four architectural renderings, three d, perspectives just to give you a little bit more of an idea of view of the rear loaded townhomes from the streets. This is off of the main entrance from 40th, so you can get a feel for a bigger picture feel, some of the internal villas, the rear loaded townhomes. We mentioned if you remember the site plan, of the internal pocket park within the block, and you can get a good feel for what that would look like.

Come on. There we go. And then this is, one of the the the And again you'll see pieces of this in the Green Space Master Plan presentation next. But one of the pocket parks or multiple, I think there's six or seven of these spread throughout various parts of Main Street just to provide a little bit of a different feel. There'll be benches and things like that along this area as well for people that are out walking, know, trash receptacles, things of that nature.

I'll show you a lot of examples of that in this next presentation. And then again another view from the Northeast and again just to get some some feel for the landscaping and the open space elements that you know you don't have buildings all just packed one on top of the other. And I think that does it. So leave it to the board. I'm happy to run right through the Green Space master plan and then answer questions or answer questions on block eight and go into the Green Space Master Plan.

Okay. So, right now I will open up the public hearing. Board clerk, is there anyone who signed up to speak on agendas item five and six?

No? Oh,

I thought you were over.

I just didn't know if you Sorry. If you wanted to ask questions about that and then we can move on or I can just do the whole presentation like Liz did and

Don't we usually come back and ask questions to the staff and the applicant?

Yeah. Then we're just doing the questions.

Oh, I see. So we're just doing the public. Okay. So we can wait afterwards and I'm then fine

with waiting. Okay. Great. Great. I just wanted to defer to the board when you all wanted. Great. Great. So the next piece of this is is the parks master plan, green space master plan. You can see on the graphic on the right hand side, everything that you see either dashed or highlighted in yellow is effectively what we're going to be talking about. On the left hand side with the bullets, you can get a feel for what we're talking about. I think the staff report broke them down into maybe large intermediate and small parks or something similar to that. I'll do something very similar as I make my way through my presentation. I believe we'll start the presentation with the Village Green or what we've called Main Street Square. That is Let's see. Does this work?

It doesn't. That is the area all the way up in the Northwest Corner. And again, I don't know that this board you may have seen some perspectives of the Village Green. It's something that we've been working on, with your commission. We presented in various workshops.

So you're gonna see a lot of presentations today for what is effectively going to be the centerpiece of of the Civic Node in in Main Street that is a a two acre piece of property that we are dedicating to the city. And then in in corroboration with the city, working on the final details of this, but would effectively be constructing a lot of what you're gonna see here this evening while we work out some of the design details with with the city as we move forward from tonight's meeting. There's a main plaza. Liz mentioned that as well. I'll show you in more detail, but that's at the corner of 40th And City Market.

The FPL Linear Park is, the area underneath the large f p f f p and l overhead lines that, you know, there's nothing we can do about it other than try and, aesthetically improve that area as much as possible. And then the various community and pocket parks that are spread in and around the project. You saw a couple of those examples while I was I was presenting on Block 8. And then what you see dashed areas all around are effectively segments of greenway. There are greenway requirements for Main Street along the perimeter.

You've seen examples of that in existence today with the Promenade and Monarch Station. And the idea is ultimately that all of that will connect all the way around the exterior, but we're also providing a number of different internal links through our various through the the Greenway trail system and through the other open space areas. I know that I've made presentations to you in the past where I've kind of identified how you would get, you know, on a bike for example from one side of Main Street all the way to the other and this is just another another element of that. So these next few slides, really are more kind of the the feel of Main Street. We've spent a lot of time and energy working with a lot of different consulting teams to to really make Main Street someplace unique, someplace different, someplace that has its own identity within the city of Coconut Creek.

It's been the goal from the time there was that Main Street became an idea, from the time it was put into existence through documents. And you know we've we got this project far enough along a year, year and a half ago that we engaged a variety of different marketing teams and otherwise to really come up with that look in that field. And so that's a lot of what you see here. As I think as the project moves forward and and sales and rentals and and commercial areas start to open, you'll see a lot more of what I'm about to present in in in the real practical results of of what we're talking about, public art concepts, and, you know different visions, associated with, what we hope to to bring Main Street to life. A lot of green technology and focal features.

You'll see elements of both of these. On the left it's kind of a water tower cistern type of feature that will be proposed within Johns Park. You'll see that in our presentation. On the right is what's called a solar flower. And I believe we have at least one, maybe more of these in some of our parks as well.

More green technology, solar awnings, solar benches, windmills, rainwater harvesting. These are all things that you're gonna see visible displays of green technology. Been working in the city of Coconut Creek for twenty five years now and it's been a routine common theme or concept, but more often than not it's a gratuitous item that gets thrown in with a development because these are just one one building that's being built and things of that nature. Main Street creates an opportunity to really really show the the sustainability concept that the city of Coconut Creek's really been standing behind for as long as I've been doing work in the city. More green technology, again, you know, solar power, panels and, EV charging stations and, and recycling.

You know, these think you may recall from some of our earlier presentations, we had a slide at the end of our presentations that had a bunch of different colored dots on it, and each dot would then pop up and animate with a different idea or concept. And we're so far into the project now that we have These are We're gonna see a lot of things that look exactly like this in most instances. We've specced, we understand a lot of what it's all gonna look like. Obviously we've got to go through the buying and the pricing and all of those elements as we get a little bit further into this, but, this is all very consistent with what you'll be seeing. And then other, know, again, we were talking earlier about benches and trash receptacles and, bike racks, you know, various, types of concepts that you'll you'll be seeing throughout, the green space area.

Amenity, family friendly, amenities. There are playgrounds, water filling stations. Don't I know what that thing is on the bottom right. What is that? Oh, it's a biker fair area. Okay. Cool. And that's good. You see those on the mountain all the time for snowboards. And and then, you know, lots of different seating concepts and I mean, the the idea of showing you all of these slides is all of these parks are gonna have something unique, different.

They're gonna have their own own feel. And a lot of the concepts that you've seen here, I think Liz even mentioned the one on the bottom right there, just, you know, areas to to go for a stroll, stop, take a seat, on a big rock, on a bench, things of that nature. Street lights, bus stop receptacles, other types of benches. So again, I mean, all all different ideas and concepts that are part of our amenities package. So so moving from that, those are all the different concepts and elements that you're gonna see within these various green spaces.

The first item I'm gonna start with is the village green. This is that area that's in the far Northwest corner, really the centerpiece of the civic node associated with Main Street. So this is effectively the site plan. You can see the various elements and areas, the curve linear, and you don't have the benefit of the bigger picture presentation that was made individually to staff and to the city commission. But in the design concept and the architect that we utilize to really design this, it was all really themed after a butterfly.

Right? I mean that's always It's the concept, it's the logo for Main Street, the logo for the city, and so it's where you see a lot of these curvilinear approaches and you know different segments of what of the Village Green. There'll be a stage for performances. Yes. There'll be public art within the Village Green, a dog park, a playground for children, a splash pad, kind of a nature play area.

You saw hammocks earlier. There'll be a a hammock park. And again, these are all these are all the the various ideas that have been seen, that they've been presented to your city commission. Ultimately, city commission is final say in approval. We kind of assisted and pushed this process along coming up with the the concept associated with what will ultimately be the central feature of the city park.

On the left and the right, not the subject of the green space, but just so the board's aware, to the left in that big open green area where it says nature play area is a block that will also be owned by the city and part of the civic node. There is a planned parking garage for that block. And on the right hand side is another block that will also be owned by the city. There's a lot of conversation taking place as to what will be there that is the city will ultimately plan and design and program what will what will go there. We're working with the city on various concepts that may end up there, but we'll all be consistent with the civic theme of of of this particular area of of Main Street.

So these next few slides are really just kinda close-up renderings of the various areas within the Village Green. Open air venue, another viewpoint or concept of it. You can see the parking garage there off in the distance. I know the city has ideas of having some sort of screen up there so you can do the movies in the park and things of that nature. Splash pad area, some type of public art that still needs to be designed and planned, playgrounds, dog park, the nature play area, the hammocks park, various walkways and resting areas throughout.

And I failed to mention this on the site plan, on the north side adjacent to the large lake is kind of this large butterfly canopy and then nice vistas that overlook a fairly large lake. You'll see some concepts of that shortly as well. I think you can see some of it here off on the north side there. So moving on, the other big and significant park that we are dedicating to the city as part of this project is known as the Main Plaza. I think it's about an acre of land that is between Blocks 5 And 6.

You can kinda think this is where Liz was mentioning the the horseshoe shape and feel. Everything that you see to the north of fortieth there where the car is on the road, that is all pedestrian area. You've got very large, wide pedestrian sidewalks and shared multi use paths. There are amenities, and I'll show you a couple of other renderings in just a moment, within the main plaza as well. And then it all connects to the north over a bridge that will then take you off into the FP and L easement area, which is much more passive because there's only so much you can do under the overhead lines, but then that takes you further north into other areas of the green space plan, which I'll share with shortly.

Just an another rendering, and you may have seen this in some of our other presentations. You can get a feel, with the with the little legend up in the top right hand corner of where you might be standing here. This would be at the north side of the park looking south. The building that you see in the background is I believe one of the four story buildings that's been approved for the block four apartments. And then again just some more feel for what this area might look like.

So then moving over and on the bottom right, you can see a concept for the bridge and some of the other areas that would be in and around this area much more passive in nature. Again, there's only so much that FP and L is allowing us to do, even even the effort that we had to go through and the agreement we had to sign with them just to be able to make the improvements here and do something with it was pretty significant. And so we look forward to being able to beautify that area. And then it makes its way up a little bit further if you look just to the top like over by the playground area, that's just to the east of Block 11 Condominiums. You've seen and approved those.

And that that kinda continues the the greenway and the multi use path to then get you up to the north into to the civic node. This is John's Park. This is the the mixed use park that is so you can see in the legend there, it is just to the west of Block 2. Block 2 is a commercial block that you all approved. It's planned for a a very large standalone restaurant.

And then just outside of that area is another almost acre piece of property that will be planned. We're working on an agreement with the city where the city will actually be able to program this area as well for, you know, yoga in the park, things of that nature that maybe don't rise to the level of significance of programming something in the village green. So that's what's planned for this area. And obviously you can see the water tower cistern element that I mentioned earlier. So these next few really just show you other examples of some of the pocket parks and the greenway areas and the intense landscape treatment and other amenities that have been provided within these little areas.

And again, off on the left hand side, you can get a general feel for where some of these parks are. Number one is at the corner of Banks And 40th. I think you saw this one when I was presenting on Block 8, it's right outside of Block 8. The other is at 40th And 54th, which is a little bit further to the north, right outside of what will be the the multifamily building across the street from the Village Green and and the Block 9 townhomes kinda on that corner. So some of the perimeter greenways, I believe what we're looking at here is Block 1.

That's right. And so, again, I think it's a 28 foot wide easement area that's got that I think it's a 12 foot wide shared multi use path along with significant landscape treatment and this runs up and down the length of Lyons Road. And I mentioned earlier the lake that runs around Block 15, that we were talking about the butterfly canopy earlier that on the bottom screen picture number two would be off to your right hand side. And then you can see the large greenway and trail system that's been provided looping around the road. Sorry, around the lake.

Again, I think we're we're now all the way at the far northwest corner of of Main Street, and I mentioned a number of times during this presentation. I mean, we spent so much time really working on making sure it's to get from point a to point b on the furthest sides of Main Street, North, South, East or West. And I think through this presentation you've been able to get a feel for how much treatment we've really given to that as part of this master planning process. So again, as mentioned this staff's recommending approval of both applications. There are conditions of approval.

I was speaking with Justin about a couple of them just before the meeting and we'll work through those and finalize them prior to city commission. And that's it. Just a couple of other applications, blocks ten and sixteen for you all to see sometime over the next few months. I don't think either of them are in yet, it might be a few more months, but we look forward to having a discussion on anything that was presented this evening and seeing you again soon.

Thank you. I think I was confused because I thought you were doing six and then five I think you did five first and then six. Okay. Thank you. That's fine.

I was kinda like, it was really good though.

Thank you very much. Okay, now I will really open to the public hearing on items five and six. Board Clerk, are there anyone who signed up to speak on items five and six?

No one signed in on those two items.

Okay, great. Okay, so is there anyone here that did not sign in that would like to speak on the items five or six? Okay. Okay, thank you. Does city staff have any questions for the applicant or any for the applicant?

Not at this time. Thank you.

Thank you, Liz. Okay. Does the applicant have any questions for the city staff? No. Thank you. Okay. The public hearing is now closed. Do any members of the board have any questions for the city staff, the applicant or anyone that's spoken on the item? We'll start with Jeff.

Is to Block 8, the governance is going to be through a single condo association or homeowners association. Is that

Yeah. That that's right. So there'll be different associations for many of the blocks within the community. Block 8 will likely have its own association.

Okay. So there'll be one I mean, it's not gonna be one for each set of buildings. Just one overall?

Definitely not for each set of buildings. Some of the blocks may be part of a single association. Not all of the blocks will be part of the same association, but they will be governed by an HOA form of association, yes.

In terms of the trail system, which I think is terrific. There are gonna be a lot of people in Main Street. And from personal experience, you're gonna have walkers, bikes, people on bikes, people pushing strollers. It's a recipe for accidents and disaster. So I'm curious as to how wide these are gonna be. Do you have any system for separating out the pedestrians from the vehicles? I think it's I would be concerned about it unless you have like very very wide paths.

Yeah. So the paths are actually very wide, extra wide in a lot of instances. I believe minimum of 12 feet, is that right? Yeah, so minimum of 12 feet for these paths. I mean that's pretty significant when you think of a typical four or five foot sidewalk, sometimes maybe a six foot sidewalk. And in some instances substantially larger than that.

All right, thank you.

Thanks. Alex?

Do you have anything else on dollar properties? Okay. So yes, lot to go through. For sticking in there. So on the renderings for Block 8, just confirming they are gated because they don't you know, obviously you're not gonna put gates in a render?

The the you mean the the front gates that you saw? Is that what you're referencing?

It's like it's like Block 8 is is all gated.

Yes. Correct? Yes.

Okay. Just you're not gonna show gates in a render, right? No

no no, it's a a it's a gated block,

yes.

And then in maybe the pages aren't gonna align here, but in one of the renderings there's on street parking, is that is that part of the designs? That wasn't it wasn't totally clear to me.

Well, so so it is, you're probably referencing this. Yes. It's not this is not within what you see there is Block 8, but that is Block 8 that's fronting on either 54th or or 40th because there's parallel parking that was presented as part of the roadway master plan on all of all of these roadways.

So then there would be a gate running here?

No, you can see that these So it's a gated community. Hold on a second, let me

Two of us

back. Come on.

It's gated on the roadways, I guess is maybe a better way of thinking about it.

Correct. Yeah. So I don't know why this isn't pulling up. There we go. Yes. So it's it's gated for vehicular purposes, but and then the frontages have, you know, some of the gates. You can again, you can see the gate here with the the buildings that are along the roadway. Then there's gates in between the buildings. Correct? No. No. Okay. So it's it's gated solely for vehicular purposes.

Okay. I Yeah. I mean, I guess I guess that exists. I just seem

I

I wasn't clear on it, so thank you for clarifying. All these other renderings. Thanks again for the legends. That was somewhat helpful, but it wasn't quite on all of the slides. So, might ask some questions what some of Random one to city staff, water tower. So, is that going to serve a purpose? I mean, I'm under, Correct me if I'm wrong, but they help with water pressure or something? Like is that actually serving a purpose or is this aesthetic?

Are you referring to the cistern water collector?

Yes. Or no, whatever this is.

Like on Jones Parcel or whatever.

The windmill. The water power. Jones Water Power. Well

well the windmill is intended to be a kind of a an homage if you will for the farmland that is currently there. And so it represents something historical to Main Street which is the farm fields and so the windmill is indicative of that.

I was just curious.

Yeah. The the cistern is intended to function as an actual water collection system. Okay. We haven't gotten through the all the details yet as to how it'll be collected and the irrigation system etcetera, but it is intended to be a functioning water collection and distribution cistern.

Okay. Yeah. I haven't seen one as like a piece of new development, so I guess it is a character piece. Let's get the other ones. I mean, I didn't catch it before, but you have a glowing rail in the streetscape furniture. Is that like a Does that mean anything? Is there like a charger in in the benches or Being like really picky here, but You guys see the glowing rail, right?

I'm sorry, what was the question?

In the streetscape furniture family, one of the, I guess Thanks. Banisters is glowing. Does that indicate anything or am I just a little onerous here? Yeah. I could've swore there were charging facilities kinda talked about throughout Main Street and I didn't see it explicitly, like, put here.

Oh, here.

Oh, yeah. You're talking about the rail on the bench?

Yeah. Yeah. It's like

So so your police department is part of the process require that to prevent people from jumping up with their skateboards and kinda grinding along the edge? Is that kinda I guess discourages them from doing so? Yeah.

Is it is it lit up, I guess? I mean, I I guess

It's it's it's not. I think maybe it's just high up.

I was like, wow. What a safety feature.

So you're not to ride your skateboard.

Now now they'll see it too. Okay. That's that. So this is one I mean, I might be a little quick on this one, but bus shelters. Never taken a bus in my life in Florida. It's not exactly known for public transportation. So, what's up with the bus shelters?

The staff can certainly address this, but the idea is to have internal transit within Main Street and throughout the city, and so that's the idea of the bell show. So bus,

sort of, not necessarily like a city bus or a county These

specifically are for internal to Main Street. Are bus stops that are required by the county outside along Lyon Sample and Wiles where I believe we're providing easements. And I don't remember exactly what the county's requirement is, but everything you're seeing here is internal to the project. Yes.

Okay. I've just seen another development in Boca that is littered with bus shelters and I don't know who there is taking any buses, Nuvo single family rentals, but lots of bus shelters and it makes no sense. So if it's for internal transit, think that's a great idea though. Yes. So that's

clarifying. Although that hasn't been fully vetted yet or ironed out, but the goal is to provide in addition to the green ways for multi use travel by pedestrians, but also circulator systems within Now Main

to more of the parks, I guess we're still already on the parks. Is there some So, you showed the examples of lighting and obviously the canopy is very prevalent and all these are during the day. What's an example of night, right? If it's walk gonna be walkable, you probably want it to be well lit at night. Are there renderings or examples of what that sort of

We we don't have any renderings of that. There are minimum foot candle requirements that are required by the code, by the police to ensure that it's safe and we meet this.

Okay. I think that's it. Jones Park Easement. Yep. I think that's that's it for me. Just a question. So Village Green is in is in which exactly? So that was the first thing you were talking about. I don't think that had a

This right here is the two acre Village Green that I was presenting on.

Okay. And that is going to be, I guess, somewhat partially used by the city, right, because it's adjacent to another city property?

That centerpiece. Specific property or whatever. Right. That centerpiece where Scott has the kind of the arrow pointing to. I don't know if you can get to that other slide where So that piece is the village green which is the rendering that you saw with the that there we go, that one. That center area, that's that piece that Scott was just pointing to on the other slide, that's about two acres. Okay. What you're not seeing is on the west side of that, that's also city property.

Okay.

And it's showing green there, it's part of their legend so you could see there the writing, but that's the city property and then on the east side that piece is also city property and those haven't been ironed out yet as to what exactly will be there but when you looked at that kind of ground level view where you see the parking structure in the back, one of the renderings that Scott shared, that was something that's been Here we go. So if you're here on the ground and you're looking west on that one piece to the left, that's where the city has talked about putting a parking structure there to help serve some of these big events that we hope to program in the future at the Village Green where we may have movies or you know, music or what have you. So a parking garage there could support those types of city events, and that would be the piece to the west.

Okay. Is there any defined recreation, any fields or courts in here? I don't I didn't see any planned, but and today. I mean, again, it was a lot, so I apologize if I

missed it.

Yeah. Not as part of this plan in particular other than the fact that you've got, you know, miles and miles and miles of

You play whatever you play, but

of that nature. So lot lots of open spaces. There you know, in in past meetings, we presented to you on the recreation and amenities areas that have been proposed within the project and things of that nature. No no public park, you know, other than what you've seen, no, you know, fields or or basketball courts or things of that nature.

Okay. Thanks. Thanks for clarification. That's it for me.

Thank you. You good? Okay. Alright.

So this is a very general question. You used the word dedicated to the city. Mhmm. What is being dedicated? In other words

Yeah. We're we're giving it to the city. It's our lands. We are giving it to the city, two acres.

As improved in in these these are conceptual as improved or is it here's the raw land we suggest and you offer some

design Let answer. It's a combination of both I would say. We are giving two acres to the city. That is part of the development requirements for, you know, that will go back fifteen plus years in granting all of the entitlements to all of these properties. It's just a raw two acres.

We have no obligation to do anything to it other than give the city two acres of property. As part of the approval process, we At one point, we were going to improve the property to grade and and and sod it so that it's it's grassed and then give it to the city. We are now in final negotiations. The development agreement has not been finally approved by your city commission yet, but we are now in final negotiations and there's a workshop tomorrow evening that will actually address this point where in all likelihood if everything moves forward as has been discussed, we will end up improving the Village Green very consistent with what you've seen there, subject to, you know, design, cost caps, details, you know, those types of things that are being discussed with the commission tomorrow evening and will be embodied within the development agreement. I hope that answers your question.

I just It's not as easy as, yes, we're doing this. We have an obligation to do something and we're in discussions with the city, which is a negotiation to do more.

Yeah. So just take one item for instance. The I understand what you said about that park. Sure. But there were playgrounds in the pictures. And, you know, there'll be all these people buying houses, bringing children. Are those playgrounds something that the city will have to come back later and put in? Or you are putting in as part of the entire

Sure. So let me let me let me try and and separate some things. Right? I'm gonna get away from the village green for a second because that is the subject of the negotiations I've been talking to you about. However, you saw a park right here, assuming it doesn't freeze. Right? You saw a playground right here

Mhmm.

Which we are constructing and installing as part of the project. So all of the parks are dedicated public open space. They are not specific to people that just live in Main Street. They are for everyone in the city of Coconut Creek. And in most instances, we are installing and providing the various amenities that I showed you earlier. The exception to all of that is the Village Green, which will probably happen as well, but that that negotiation and agreement is not complete with your city commission yet.

Alright. Thank you.

You good? Thank you.

Trailer Plant. Scott, good evening. This is kind of a comment for both of staff and the applicant. I didn't really pick up on this the first time the townhouse villas came through, but we have townhouses that the part of the code required parking is the garage spaces, and I think it probably meets the code in terms of the black and white, but the internal dimension on the garages is 10 foot by 20 foot, which is really really challenging. So just for sort of maybe best practice and a recommendation, maybe if those could be looked at to be increased to 11 feet just so that you can actually open your car door when you're in the garage, especially if they're co required spaces.

So, that the garages actually get used as garages and help with keeping cars off the street. And then maybe that's something that staff could look at in the future for redefining what required parking minimums are for that kind of a thing just to see if that's something that the code could look at just

And if I may, so understood and the comment came up, it's come up multiple times including during some of our public hearings with the city commission. Your staff is well aware of it. I know townhomes have in the past been a problem in the city. There is a condition of approval number two. I understand the comment about the width. The depth has been increased. We are obligated by by code and by condition to utilize and ensure that we're enforcing utilization of the garage for parking. Right. And, we are also required to have room within the garage for for trash and recycle recycling receptacles. So Okay.

If you want to store within your garage, you're gonna end up running into a problem both with the city as well as your association. And, obviously, there are storage facilities in the area. If you need excess storage, you shouldn't be using your garage at least the way these these townhomes are gonna be marketed and sold.

Thanks. That was it.

Those Tesla trucks. So I'm gonna bring this up again, the pickleball. Have you guys committed to it? You know, you're gonna have a lot of young people working living in there and that is a huge huge popular sport.

So, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take a little opportunity. We are I mentioned Here, I'll show you here on the screen screen real quick.

You have the big space in the middle?

Hang on. Let me figure out where it was. Where's the Village Green? Here we go. We we are in discussions with your commission and your city management office right now about working with the city.

It's a city's block. We're not taking any liberties, but we've had several conversations and intend on attempting to have more introducing that concept as a recreational slash commercial activity adjacent to the Village Green within Main Street. I believe there will also be pickleball courts within the two apartment communities, but those will be exclusive to the two apartment communities. Are gated, they are separate private rental communities. So there there is a goal and a desire that I think is probably shared, but there are some, I don't wanna call them complications. There's a lot that has to happen in order to to actually bring the concept to life. But certainly feel free to mention that to your commissioners and your city manager.

Thank you. And then so for the project description, you have nine EV ready spaces based on demand and then one designated EV space. So that's for the whole 152 townhomes?

Every garage is EV ready.

That's what I wanted to know. Okay. So that's that's great. Okay. That's perfect. And I'm a little concerned with the parking for visitors if they with these so many parks, I think that you'll have a lot of people like visiting especially with the children's parks and I don't think that the garage is gonna be built anytime soon for public parking. I mean there is 32 spaces, You know, this is in general for all these, you know, great parks. I know there's 32 guest spaces, but that's for that development that's gonna be fenced gated in.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Yeah. That's okay.

I was so let's see. I wanted to pull up. I thought I just did that. Let's see.

It says there's two reserved off space parkings for each unit also.

So within the block, that's absolutely right. I'm I'm waiting on on a number but it it so all throughout Main Street along 40th, along banks, along City market. I'm sorry along 54th, that banks? No, along banks. Along this corridor here, and then separately up along this corridor here is Street parking. A significant number of parallel on street parking. I can't remember what none of that, none of it at all is counted towards our required parking. It is all overflow excess parking to encourage exactly what you're asking which is to bring in people and residents Right.

Yeah.

And have places whether they're guests, whether they're people from the city that wanna come and go for a run or take a walk or whatever the case may be. I think we have I know it's a very significant number. Just just around Block 8. Okay.

Which is around Block 8?

Okay. Yeah. I I think the number is close to a 100 or more total parallel within the community.

This part it has nothing to do with this block, but I really think there should be a market there in the in the whole Main Street. A real market like Trader Joe's, Fresh Market. I mean, I thought that that was in the original master plan that there was a real market.

So a couple things in that respect. So so Block 3 which you saw which has been redesigned and and I think I shared this with you. I wish I could zoom in on it. I think I shared this with you when I was when I presented Block 3. This area of Block 3, these two buildings in particular have been designed in a way that if the right user comes along Okay. We have the ability to expand upon these buildings and bring that market in. We ran into it so and you're you're probably not misremembering that there was a point in time where Block 3 was actually designed with a market with some type of supermarket or

something that's like.

Well, that's different. I was gonna get to that in a moment as well. That's a whole another conversation we had with staff and built into the PMDD as well. But, look, our goal if we can figure it out is to bring a market here. It's been a discussion from day one, but at the same time, we needed to design this block in a way that was consistent with Main Street that staff found acceptable. And so that's how we arrived at a happy medium that creates a bit of an urban feel, but still creates the opportunity for a market if one shows up. A good example of that is the commercial developer on this team, and I think we've talked about before, developed a project in West Boca called Uptown Boca. Literally just yesterday, Whole Foods opened

Huge.

Literally just yesterday. That project, and and I worked on it, that project was was ten years in the making, Went through, I wanna say four different users and grocers in that space before they were finally able to land who they wanted from day one. But the way the commercial and retail market works is very different than everything else. And it's very much a design it and even in some cases build it and then we'll come. And so we don't know what's gonna happen here, but we've designed it in a way that we can.

Okay.

That's

fine. With regard to the corner stores, and I don't remember exactly what the regulation says, so maybe Justin or Liz can jump in and help me. But we have created the opportunity, I think on a lot of these major corners in the event Main Street develops in such a way that in the future it's appropriate. Right? And we we went out, we looked, we had a lot of conversations with your staff on that very issue here. Right now, it's it literally would get built. It would sit there vacant and empty like all of those those retail spaces in Downtown Fort Lauderdale until there were 10,000 people living there. Right? And so so the opportunity is there for it to happen within the regulations, but it's not something that's being planned initially.

Okay. That sounds good. I guess that is all I have to say. Anybody else have any more questions or comments for staff or the applicant? Okay, thank you. Where are we now? Oh, here we are. Okay, so any more closing remarks? We're good?

Yeah, good.

Thank you. The boards, we're all good on our agenda items. Okay, comments from the board again. Alright, so I think that we are good and I will thank you very much Scott.

Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, so I do two.

One at a time.

One at a time, right? Okay, good. Are there any comments or deliberations from the board on agenda item five, the block eight site plan application for the Main Street Of Coconut Creek development? No motion.

I'll move to approve agenda item five, item 25 dash o 34 Oh, I'm so

I'm sorry. I'm tired. Okay. Second. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. Clerk, could you call the roll please?

Mister Light? Yes. Mister Escoriasa?

Yes.

Mister Briggs?

Yes.

Vice Chair Barker?

Yes.

Chair LePlante?

Yes. Alright. Sorry about that. So there's no more comments or deliberations from the board on agenda item number six for the parks and open space.

I'll move to approve agenda item six item 25 dash zero thirty five, the open space plan. Perfect.

Second.

Thank you.

Madam clerk? Mr. Light? Yes. Mr. Escoriasa?

Yes.

Mr. Briggs? Yes. Vice Chair Barker?

Yes.

Chair LePlante?

Yes. Great.

Thank you all very much.

Thank very much.

See you soon. Thanks

for the binder clips. I have a big collection. Alright.

So we're gonna move on to item seven, communications and reports. Any board members or staff have correspondence or reports to share for the good of the board?

Just wanted to share that our board applications for this year's appointments opened this week. Same application process as last year digital through our website if you're interested. Appointments are in April but applications are open now.

Thank you. Anybody else? Do you guys have anything?

Liz? Yeah. Just mister Briggs got ahead of us a little bit. Definitely wanted to mention that the city commission will be having a workshop tomorrow afternoon at 05:30 before the regularly scheduled meeting to discuss the village green among other things and that will be happening again tomorrow 05:30 so you're all welcome to come, attend, listen in. You.

Thank you.

Did you all RSVP for the Butterfly Festival? All good to go? No? Okay. And Just a twenty second.

I'll just say, if you haven't been in the Butterfly Festival and the RSVP, it's quite an event and it's very special. I highly encourage you

to Yes.

And we'll be there.

Oh, I just sorry. I'm like sleep deprived. Okay. And oh, I did Alex, did you sign up for the bus tour? So that's like the little butterfly bus and

I haven't.

I haven't it that's what the buses there though we have those buses available. So we're there's a tour that Yvonne had sent up. It might be of interest to you.

Okay.

Okay. Here we go. So there's no further business or I'll take a motion to adjourn the meeting.

Move to adjourn. Second.

Meeting adjourned.

Thank

you everybody. Thank you.