Charter Review Board - Regular Meeting

Calling to order the 05/05/2026 redistricting board meeting. Will the board clerk please call roll?

Chair Esquireza? Present. Vice chair of Albo?

Present.

Dravith Martin?

Present.

Menzus? Present. Smith? Here. Deputy city attorney Mappi?

Here.

City attorney Piedmont?

Here.

Thank you.

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I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time hearing.

Oh, sure. Can you is there there's no mics here today?

There is, but they're down on the table further.

We go. That's the mic.

Right. So the mic doesn't pick up sound in here. It's just for the recording.

Okay. So

we just had to project our projection over

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So moved. Second.

We have a motion and a second. We will now hear agenda item four, a discussion on Finally.

If If the board clerk could call the roll.

Not for the for the approval. Correct.

Chair Esquireza? Yes. Vice chair Avavo?

Yes.

Board member David Martin?

Yes.

Board member Menzies? Yes. Board member Smith?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank

you. We will now hear agenda item four, a discussion on population estimates and projection methodology. Consultants?

Thank you. Glad to be here again, and I'm glad we're at the same level. I can look you in the eye, and you can look me in the eye too. Okay? We went over the population projection material quite heavily at the first meeting. Nothing's changed. That's the data that we're using. It comes from the U. S. Census. Okay? They're what's called their apportionment file. That's a legal number that can be referenced. We've added to that, okay, data from the city on certificates of occupancy, number one, and number two, on what's

called

entitlements, which is projections on what is likely to happen in a particular major development called Main Street. So those are built in to our population projection, which is aimed at the year 2029, three years out, and it uses information that the city provided on what was expected to be built and occupied by that time period. So that covers the population notions. If there's any questions about that, we'll be glad to answer them at this point.

Just a quick question. Does it include all of the development entitlement entitlements?

No. The Main Street development is projected to be under construction for at least six years from what the data that we were provided. So you're talking about 2032. Six years out is a long time for making new housing population projections. There are so many variables, least of which is the economy.

Okay? So we have stuck with the three year projections, again, provided by, I guess, Main Street to the city. We've stuck with the three years. And let me just say, that's even a reach for me. I've been doing this election district Okay. Districting for over forty years, since the middle '80s. And I've never gone three years out. So we're doing it for the first time here. Okay? And even then, I'm a little, okay, cautious about the numbers.

Pardon me, Ron. May I just address the board and simply say that the numbers for Main Street reflect what has been approved by site plan. There are additional entitlements for the Main Street district that the developer has not provided for in site plan, and so those are not included. Meaning, if a subsequent if this developer never built what was provided by site plan and a different developer came in and submitted a new site plan, it wouldn't include additional development for which could be built under the planned Main Street Development District. It does only include those developments for which a site plan was approved.

There are still about three blocks for which there is no site plan approved, and so those are not accounted for here. Hopefully, that makes sense. I

think it was it it's a generous, and I crossed my fingers, and I hope that it's additional approximately 1,500 as you projected here. And but who knows? It it's do do we do the best we can with the facts that we have?

So

Right. Exactly. We felt that the numbers that were provided for by the site plans that were approved by the commission, submitted by the developer reflect what is intended to be billed, what most likely will be billed, and isn't as speculative as what ultimately could be built on the other three blocks for which we don't have site plans?

I might make one point. As we go through our PowerPoint and our discussion, we have built we have we're going to provide you four alternatives to look at. And we've provided in each of those four alternatives slightly different negative, okay, deviation for the district in which Main Street is located. It's still within the parameters where we're trying to have a reasonable population balance, but it gives a little room for additional growth in that district without upsetting the apple cart, without disturbing the balance significantly. So we've built that into our work as we'll we'll go through that in more detail in just a moment.

Any other questions about population?

I have one addition. Go ahead. There's another reason not to project beyond 2029, and that is that there's a new census coming in 2030. And that data will be available in 2031 before this project is the mainstream project is complete. So we strongly believe that it would be appropriate to come back and look at that data after the 2030 census is available and grounds truth just how accurate this population projection is. So the 2029 projection is designed to align with when these new districts may come into effect.

That's great. They seem like good number. Mean

Okay. That's great. Alright. With that then, I think we'll turn, okay, the table here over to James, and we'll go through our PowerPoint, which is basically reflecting what's in the reports that we've submitted to you.

Very good. Good afternoon, everybody, again. So here's our agenda. We'll well, Ron already kinda touched on the data recap. We're gonna go over some support maps that you guys requested from us the last time we were here, and then we're gonna get into the meeting the the meat of today's board meeting, which is the math alternatives.

And then we'll finish up with what comes next. So as Ron suggested, we're using the same data we discussed last time. It's the census data, it's the redistricting file, and then we're also using the housing data that was provided to us by city staff. As a reminder, the number that we project in the city to be at by the 2029 is 59,271. If you divided that by five by the current districts, that would give you an average number of 11,854.

But, of course, we're not gonna be dividing by five this time. We're creating new districts, so we'll be dividing by four instead. Here's a map that was presented to you in your original report that shows you the existing districts as they presently stand today, the board asked us to provide a neighborhood map. So that is map three in your packet that I've distributed to you today. So if you'd like to refer to that, you can see where each of the individual neighborhoods are.

This GIS layer was provided to us again by city staff. So we took that GIS layer and turned it into this map for you. We were also asked by the board to provide a more granular map that shows the population by subregion throughout the city. And so that makes up map four. We mentioned in the report that the city blocks, rather the census blocks that are provided by the US Census are very convoluted in shape.

They don't take on what you might imagine a block to be. It's not a nice neat rectangle or square. They're very serpentine in nature and oftentimes have donut holes in them. Suffice to say, it's not possible for us to provide you a population count on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. So instead, we provided this region map for you to refer to.

We'll remind you as to what our redistricting parameters are. Our primary goal is to achieve population equity, And we establish a goal of no more than 10% deviation across the districts. And as we were discussing last time, that means that, you know, you could have one district that's plus 5% deviation and another district that's negative 5% deviation, and that would give you a spread of 10%. That's the goal. The other measure by which we look at deviation is the mean deviation.

What is the average deviation across all the districts? We also mentioned that we strictly adhere to section two of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which states that arbitrary dilution of minority population clusters is strictly prohibited. In In this case, in the city, there are no majority minority districts that we have to worry about. But again, we would always avoid arbitrarily diluting a minority population district. We also seek geographic contiguity and appropriate compactness where possible.

I think you'll see that we've achieved that to varying degrees in the map alternatives we'll be going over today. And then, of course, we abide by the state of Florida requirements. So we adhere to Florida's fair districting amendment, and we also adhere to section one sixty six point zero three two one of the Florida statutes. That relates to the timing of when districts are adopted before any given election. In this case, the election is gonna be in 2029, so that's not an issue.

And then the other thing this deals with is that the districts cannot be drawn to favor any incumbent or any candidate for office. So we're not allowed to, for example, hey. What's the address of that commissioner so that we can make sure we don't change their their district? We are completely blind to that. It's not taken into account at all.

If we didn't abide by that rule, any districts that we agreed on would be null and void. But let's come back to the idea that ultimately population equity is our primary driver. These other criteria that we discussed just here are important, but population equity is the most important factor. Okay. So let's get into the alternatives that we prepared for you.

Here's alternative one. Alternative one is very, very, very clean. We have struck stuck to major roads exclusively. This really enhances boundary recognizability. It's easy for for much easier for a resident of a city to to point to a major road like Sawgrass and say, oh, there's my border, then some minor road located in some neighborhood.

So that's the goal here. Also, by sticking to these major roads, that means that, you know, no neighborhoods are split unless a neighborhood happens to stretch across a major road. And, again, it helps with the compactness. So specifically, Sawgrass Expressway, as you can see here, is the border between Districts 12, And 3. As man made borders go, you can't get more obvious than Sawgrass Express Rays. So it's a really good border. Everybody understands, hey. My district ends after Sawgrass. We also use Lyons Road. Lyons Road is separating Districts 2 and Districts 3.

And as you can see here on the map, in in the case of District 2, it's going as far south as Coconut Creek Parkway. And the case of District 3 is going as far south as Cockens Road. The rest of the city makes up District 4. So that southern portion is the new District 4 under this alternative. Let's see how this works out in terms of your population statistics. The total deviation, that is if we take the deviation of all the four districts and add them up, is 6.9%. The mean deviation is 1.7%. So, again, the threshold that we're looking for is 10%. So we're within that threshold. Okay?

And then the other statistic that you might look at is the one we were just discussing, the difference between the largest district and the smallest district. In this case, District 3 and District 4. And if we sum those numbers together, that gives us 4.7%. So, again, within that 10% threshold. So we've got nicely recognizable boundaries. We've got good statistics. It's a pretty good alternative in our opinion. Now that said, there is a slight modification we could make to alternative one. Now we were asked to prepare for you three alternatives. And as we go through those, you'll get to see some of the different possible configurations that we can achieve this magic number that we're looking for.

But alternative 1a, there was an obvious tweak. Such a small tweak that it seems hard for us to justify calling it a separate alternative all to itself. So we're calling this one alternative one a. K? So in this case, we're moving one of the borders away from the major road to slightly improve population balance.

So we're slightly reducing boundary recognizability by moving away from one of those major roads. But in doing so, we're providing more room for growth for the Main Street development in this district, which you can see in this case would be District 2. Here's where we see Main Street on the map down here. It's this agricultural area, which I'm sure you've all driven past where Main Street's being developed. So This increased population equity is achieved by moving three fourteen residents from the District 2 that's found in Alternative 1 to District 4 that's found in alternative 1A.

If we look at this inset map that we've created, you can see that that boundary is found right between the Hammock Estates and Hammocks neighborhoods. We're not splitting a neighborhood. We're running that border between those two neighborhoods. In this case, you can see that the total deviation and mean deviation remain the same. It's 6.91.7% respectively. Again, well within that 10% threshold. But the spread has dropped a little bit. In the previous example, it was 4.7%. In this case, it's 4.3%. So the numbers have gotten a little bit better, again, at the expense of a little bit of boundary recognizability.

Again, important point to note here is this gives the Main Street development extra room for growth beyond 2029. Okay. Here we have alternative two. Okay? And the idea was, again, to show you the different kind of ways that we could split up the city into four pieces that give you this magic number.

If we go back to the previous slide, you can see the magic number we're looking for is 14,818 people per district. Ideally, each district will have exactly that number of people come twenty twenty nine. You can see in Districts 1 And 2, they take on a more of a North South configuration. I can tell you we looked at an alternative where Lyons Road was the boundary between Districts 1 And 2 all the way through the city, but when you factored in Main Street, it didn't work. So District 1 instead is coming around the northern portion of the city.

We'll see that more in the next slide. District 4 is remaining unchanged in this configuration from alternative 1 A, and District 3 is forming up the middle of the city. K? That's where we've in this case, that's where we find the Main Street development. So let's see Alternative 2 in a little more detail. District 1 is found to the north and west of the intersection of Lyons Road and Wiles Road. So that's here on your map. Right? So we're saying we're to the north and west of this intersection, all of this area here. K.

Along with the area to the north of the intersection of Hillsborough Boulevard and Lyons Road. So all of this area up here in the northeastern portion portion of the map, and the Deerfield Lakes mobile home community, which is found here. I'm gonna show you that in more detail in a moment. K? District 2, meanwhile, is found found between the Hillsborough Boulevard and Sample Road with a couple of exceptions, which again I'm going show you in more detail.

So the first exception is the Deerfield Lake mobile home community, which you can see here. Right? So that's on the Southeast corner of Hillsborough Road and Lyons Road, North of Johnson Road. K? And then we're also excluding that part of the city that's found to the south and to the west of this road here, Northwest 42nd Avenue. So the area to the south and west is gonna be found in District 3, and the area to the north and east there is gonna be found in District 2. K? Now very importantly, this gives us our first neighborhood split. So you can see here that the Coquina community is split here. We didn't have a choice.

We'd avoid the split if we could. But if you wanna make the numbers work, especially for Main Street, this is what was necessary. K? So there's Gokina here, Gokina here. So as previously noted, Main Street is standard District 3 in this alternative.

District 3 in this alternative has a negative deviation of 7.6%. That's the largest deviation observed in all of the alternatives. So what we're saying is alternative two is giving Main Street more room to grow than any of the other alternatives. You have to decide whether that increased room to grow is worth the less recognizable, less compact splitting of the neighborhoods issues. Here we can see the statistics for alternative two.

You can see that the total deviation is 16.9%. This brings the average to 4.2%, well within that 10% threshold that we discussed. On the other hand, the spread between the districts, the largest and smallest districts, is a little higher. It's 12%, so that's above that 10% threshold we were shooting for. However, it is worth noting that very quickly after adoption, as Main Street continues to grow, that number is going to shrink.

But I don't want to gloss over the fact that in 2029, that initial number for the spread is going be a little bit high. We have our now our last alternative to present to you. It's alternative three, and the goal here was to create East West oriented districts. So you can see that they stack north to south, and each district spreads from the eastern boundary to the western boundary of this of the city. District 1, again, uses Sawgrass as its southern boundary.

It's easily recognizable. This is the same as we see in alternatives one and a one and one a, I should say. District 2, on the other hand, stretches from the Sawgrass to Sample Road Sawgrass to Sample Road on the West Side Of Lyons. And on the East Side Of Lyons, it goes from Sample Road down to Wiles Road with this little itty bitty exception over here, which I'm gonna detail on the next map. So here we can see a little zoom in on this area.

So District 2 is excluding that part of Banyan Trails found to the South of Stagecoach Drive. That's right here. Okay? So here's Banyan Trails on the South Of Stagecoach Drive. Here's Banyan Trails to the North of Stagecoach Drive. And then also, here's Banyan Trails over here on the West Side of Northwest 39th Avenue. K? So Banyan Trails is getting split under alternative three.

K?

We can also see over here there's an apartment community called Banyan Point. It's not being split, but it is found in District 3 under this alternative. District 4 again remains unchanged from alternatives 1A and alternative 2. Then District 3 forms the remainder of the city found between Districts 2 And 4 as it was described. Let's look at our statistics for this alternative.

The deviation is nine percent. The mean deviation is 2.2%. The spread between the largest and smallest districts is 6.4%. Those numbers that we've emboldened there, those are the important numbers and they're, again, well within that 10% threshold that we described. At the end, we'll provide you a summary table so you can compare the statistics of each of those alternatives in turn.

Each one of these alternatives present a different way of taking your city and breaking up into four relatively equal parts based upon the 2029 population projection. And we've ensured, as Ron suggested, that and as we promised you last time, each of these alternatives would provide room for growth for Main Street, and we can see this in this column here. Right? So the Main Street deviation, the lower the negative value, the more room it has to grow. But again, in all four cases, it's we've we've planned for acceptable growth through 2029.

So what comes next? You all need to review and evaluate each of these map alternatives. We oftentimes, it's helpful when we meet with commissioners or such as yourself. If you want to identify some of the maps that you find that you don't like, you can eliminate them immediately, and then you can deliberate on the ones that you actually do like, but that's up to you. And the final step is for you to recommend a map alternative to your commission. And with that, we'd be very happy to answer any questions you have.

On this one, it seems like the, I guess, alternative one and one a had the least impact of the breaking of neighborhoods

That's

than the others, which is something obviously we wanted to avoid.

That's by design. Yeah. Alternative one was very specific. Let's stick to the major roads, and then alternative one a was a little tweak.

Now one a had that little tweak with Hammock Estates. I'm not familiar, and maybe I can learn that from staff, how the Hammocks was governed. I mean, is it an HOA that's governed by one board, or is it little separate communities?

I'm not certain, but we can look into it and get back to you.

Is it one board?

Thank you.

So it's one HOA board. So So part of it then under one a.

Right. So It's So I did look at these when they were sent to us, and I had a different point of view on it. In keeping the township together and keeping Winston Park together, to me, it appeared that alternative three kept those associations, if you will, more in line. Cutting straight down Lions, you're cutting the township in half versus the East West boundaries. The only thing I did, I don't know.

I know you said that you can't do it by the population in each neighborhood is that I would have liked to have seen Banyan Trails move up to to stay within that district too. And and I know this South Creek, it would probably throw it up, throw it the numbers off too much. That bottom just be up South of Copens, that township, Ushade, if that could move up to keep most of the township together. I know that there's still that one little area South of Copens. But to me, the alternative three seem to keep all the please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah. No. Alternative three actually splits Winston Park area into two sections. Well, I guess the other one does too. Yeah. Think But it looks like to me that I guess not. The township split into two in this one as well because it's on the sample side. It's actually because from there

Township is mostly together in alternative three with the exception of the parcels that that I think is called Township Estates, I think that's correct, the South Of Copans and East Of Lyons, and then that tiny little portion of rest of Lyons.

I just don't like the portion of for me, personally, when I look at this, you're splitting up Winston Park here. You're splitting up splitting up Banyan Trails here.

And That's why I said I'd like to move Banyan Trails down into three, but I don't know I don't know.

Them because a lot of

it. Yeah. Those numbers won't work out.

Because, yeah, you're splitting Vein Trails into actually can you pull the oh, Can you had, like, a a

more in-depth of like where you showed Damien Trails area. So that would be

map three, the neighborhoods? Yeah. Objective three.

There's also this map that has all of the neighborhoods. So, like, Winston Park is across three roads. Townships across four. So

Again, we've been talking to get not it's not a cohesive No. Community that's governed as

They have their sub communities within. Yeah. Yeah. I

guess is it more cohesive east, west, or north, south?

Right. Yeah. No. They're all

over the place.

Same same question to township. Right? There's differences to cut it.

But the one the one and the one a kind of keeps the township together because you do have some

of the townships. Right. Alternative one splits the township.

It's not one. They just did that whole deal because of the way it's set up.

But it's it really one a only splits the township where it is by Winmore over there on that side. Whereas most of it oh, no. Because you have the two over there. Yeah. Street as well. No. So it does split the township into three, please please.

Alternative three splits at the least.

Township has different associations. Correct.

Yeah. Yeah. They're they're

at the master.

They have a master? Oh, yeah. So

if you look at the screen here, you can see how much of the township makes up the city. And it's also running down this area that, you know, run over the year many as many, many, many, many years, no offense, of distrusting the city is referred to as the pipe.

The pipe on the west of the lines.

You're gonna find it next to impossible to come up with a configuration that doesn't split up

the township in some way. It's currently split.

Yeah.

Just like Winston Park, you can't. Mhmm. There's no way to

to make that. The reason for the pipe originally, going back decades, okay, was to separate South Creek from Windhorn. When districts were first created, I don't know how much history you know about Coconut Creek's districting, The first districting was done, 'eighty three maybe, so one of those years. Okay. Quite a while ago.

There was three board members from the township out of the five. And there was a public, okay, kind of requirement or however you wanna put it, a public ordinance, okay, or referendum that was passed in order to create districts in order to deal with that. And then I was brought in to help the commission figure out how they were gonna divide up the city. And at that point, the pipe started, and the pipe has gotten taller from one district into another and gotten smaller, but it's always been to the West Side, okay, of Lyons Road in order to keep having not to divide up Wynmore. South Creek was separate with the pipe.

Wynmore was separate. And then as the township developed, township was added in, okay, as the city grew. It grew rapidly. As you probably know, Coconut Creek grew really rapidly in the eighties and nineties. Here's the present configuration,

looking at that pipe.

That squiggle to the top of the b, that's the township, I believe. Right?

I think just Well, it's Yeah.

The layout of the township is such that we're trying to manage the parameters of keeping communities together and also using major roads as boundaries. The township is clearly the community that puts the most tension on that in the neighborhood because it's kind of scattered everywhere.

And they have been split one way or another since districting basically began?

So they're used to.

Okay.

Back to understanding what you said, 1a, am I incorrect or correct in stating that alternative three keeps the most of Winston Park together and the township together?

Well, the problem that I see with alternative three Uh-huh. With the Banning Trails. So Banning Trails is one community. So can that be So multi the townships are different communities. So you have different under the master, you have different associations in the township that aren't split up. Whereas when you look at Banning Trails, you're taking out a whole block of it.

I'm saying move Banyan Trails. It's there too.

I think they're saying they can't Well,

here's what here's what we're doing. Okay? So in the various alternatives, when it comes to the South of Sole Grass Expressway, we mostly use Lions Road as a dividing line between two different districts. And if you do that, then you have your Winston Park property that you're describing. Okay? We've tried to create an alternative for you where we create East West Districts. That's alternative three. Okay? And the only configuration that's gonna work for alternative three where they're running East West Districts is the configuration that we've given you.

Alright. Right.

So there's no chance of holding Banyan Trails is what you're saying?

No. And we tried But it does tried many different approaches.

It must it does keep most of the township. The least impact to the township together with them without that.

Yeah. But the township are different associations inside of Right?

I still vote.

Breaking up.

I still vote?

No. I don't. No. I yeah. I know.

I'm just

saying Yeah. What she's saying though is in terms of that that Banyan Trails is a cohesive community under one association. Township is to some degree fragmented by design.

The associations are staying intact in in the other communities.

And Winston Park, on on these proposals, Winston Park is either gonna be in two districts or even three districts. There's no getting it into one, I think. As part of it pops up above South Carolina.

Most of them Winston Park's three districts because you have one and one, one and two, and one. Mhmm.

It's gonna be a split in one

and one. Mhmm.

But they're all sub.

Again, less of a cohesive Right. Community, and I don't know what parts of it are.

Right. But you're not splitting up subs yet to get rid of that.

And, again, there are homeowners associations in this New York Mhmm. In various areas.

One and one a keep okay. You're talking about okay. Banyan. Okay. Trails, okay, that keeps it that keeps them together, one and one a do. But it does split a little bit of township at the south end, okay, and Winston Park, of course, with Lionthrope.

Those are huge communities. You have communities that are so large. You're asking a lot,

not two. Yeah.

Part of Winston Park is in one, and then the other part's in two, and then the other part's in three.

And under current districts under current districting, I believe Winston Park is split.

It is. It is. The

current the current district, I guess, District B, ends at Copeland's the north.

Yeah. It's in there right now.

Yeah.

It's right here.

Existing. Yeah. Pretty much ends at Copans except for that little

squiggle. It's not that little. It's a there's a lot of people in there. Yeah. Yeah. Again, this is a different problem. Here, we're doing with five districts as opposed to four.

That little squiggle there to the west, the blue, was because I had a balanced population. That was why it was done.

Okay. Congressional math.

Hate doing that.

We like clean boundaries. We like clean boundaries. It's not that we can create.

On the north end of the city, there are, to my knowledge, four mobile home communities, and some of the maps have them all in one district. And one of the maps, I think, has them in two different districts. Don't know if that matters at all, but I don't know if anybody knows of anything why that would matter knows of any reasons why that would matter. I'm just gonna put that

out there. Not familiar with them.

Do they have any Johnson. Unique major representations or Actually them. Yeah. Actually, two takes one of the mobile home parks and splits them up.

Who does? Who does? Yeah.

Or, yeah, alternative

two. Alternative two is the one where

Right here. Home park and that's Yeah.

They're two separate communities. Don't know. Oh, yeah. Deerfield and Country Lakes. I see that.

There should be Deerfield Lakes, Country Lakes

Yeah.

And Tallowood. As far as mobile home parks, I'm only aware of three.

And then there's one more, like, West on Johnson near 441.

Really? Oh, El Rancho. Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you.

Yes. Just to ring up. You're off.

I never knew that existed.

Yeah. It's

like Oh, well. Yeah. It's a little But I'm not aware of anything specifically that would say that you can't have them grouped together or that you can have them grouped together. I mean, it may be a socioeconomic issue.

So that's not part of our district and guidelines.

Right? There yeah. There's nothing behind my comment. Just pointing it out in case there was something to be considered there.

Why does Banyan Trails break break them out? Is it just too dense to then rebalance elsewhere? Which

we're talking about alternative three.

Right? Alternative three. Yeah.

So here we have the statistics for alternative three. And in this case, the smallest district is District 2. And you can guarantee pretty much that anytime you see in one of these tables, you know, the district that's smallest, that's gonna be the district that's gonna contain Main Street because we've designed the map to accommodate that future growth of Main Street. Okay? And then we've got District 3.

So if we go back to Banyan Trails, we're trying to balance the population between Districts 2 And 3 here. So what you're asking me is should we move this set of residents that live here into District 2? Okay? Well, again, that you're gonna add a bunch of people to District 2. That's gonna be a problem for Main Street.

So now on that, BANG IN Point is not part of BANG IN Trails. It's actually a separate community. If you were were to just move that one block of BANG IN Trails, the Pebblebrook.

I don't know.

That's

Well, I I mean, you could investigate that. I certainly don't recall off the top of my head what that would do to the numbers. Okay. But it would certainly make the boundaries less recognizable. And, again, it would give the Main Street District less room to grow.

Till 2032.

Till 2020 No. No. These numbers are all based on 2029. Please, I want to we have we have very queasy about making any forecast out to 2032. We've been given the numbers that are told that the city expects to be built by February, but we're not comfortable relying on those ads.

So we're not using it. It's too far out.

Yeah. Right. But the Far out. 1,500 more or less increase that you put into there, I I think is very optimistic, and that's probably at a 100% occupancy as to what's approved to date. Right? That would be Correct.

A 100% occupancy of what is approved to date. So

And even that is an open issue Correct. Because of So lots of

what what I'm telling you is I don't recommend. Also, you we have to be very careful. I mean, when Michael was here last time and he apologized for nobody here, he was

He attended, but he got called away.

He was ordered to another meeting at the last moment. As Michael was saying last time here, you know, we strongly encourage you not to district from the dais. That's when you can get into trouble. The purpose of us being here as your consultants is to serve as a legal buffer between the city and a future challenge. So if we can present you some reasonable alternative, we presented four very reasonable alternatives. And then you pick from one of them. It makes it a cleaner experience for you. When you start busting out the scalpel and carving out this neighborhood and that neighborhood, then, you know

It it has domino effect. If you steal from one place and add to another, Two two districts are affected.

But also your motivation is a kind of question. Yeah. Who were you benefiting when you decided to carve out that neighborhood? So if you pick one of these alternatives that we presented, you don't have to worry about that. Perhaps you'd like to eliminate one of the alternatives. Or perhaps you just need time to think about it. We discuss it again at the next meeting.

One

definitely has the cleanest lines. One a comes second. Yeah. Okay? Yeah.

What is like about a is it breaks up that it breaks up that little section of the hammocks. It probably isn't fair.

And it divides up how many?

The old divine of the vehicle is to some degree is the problem.

Have you guys ever presented this with transparencies?

But alternative one is

You mean on an overhead projector?

Yeah. That way you can see the changes. Later. Maybe back in the day. Which of this?

Run mayhem. I I last time I used overhead transparencies was

I know I suggested AI last time. Speaking of

that. I mean, it up. As I cut off, that's literally where the name overlay comes from. So you're

speaking my language. No. We don't That's how I was trained as a grad student.

I'm sure I'm sure it

was a nice little

Overhead transference. Oh, yes.

Alternative one splits the township into three different districts. Correct? Two, three, and four.

I'm sorry. What was the question?

Alternative one splits the township into three different districts. It does? Okay. I think

District 10 District is

and District 4. Yes.

Yes. Correct. I see there's a little bit of it over there.

Was looking to see the current map. I'm curious. On the current map

Has the city had comments from the township regarding the history of theirs being split? I can answer that. I have heard of nothing. Can see it. In case I've been working with the city.

I'm looking here at the current map

Right now. Right there.

Yeah. Three. They're both they're in a, b, and c.

That's the pipe. Gotcha. Yeah.

No. I'm saying the current map. The current district.

Yeah. That's yeah. That's the pipe right here.

It's on the overhead right now.

So we've township over here. We've got township here. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

They got something in the green too.

Yeah. Or

the lighter green. Yeah.

Their

commissioner is, who their, you know,

So we're on all four corners of of Copenhagen lines in the township. Mhmm.

That pipe used to cross, okay, the red line there, okay, at one time. And it had shrunk below where it is there too at another time depending on population growth.

I'm between one a and three. District 1 and District 4 are the same in both of those, and then it comes down to a North south boundary or an East West boundary?

District 1 And 401. I'm sorry.

Look the same in 1 A And 3. Is that accurate? Am I looking at that correctly?

1 A And 3, District 1? 1 A

And 3. Well, no. The 1 And

1 A And 3.

The 1 A And 3 District 1 was before. Let's say 23 of them

was the change. Yeah. So

And that's in 18 has the township slogan to 3. Yeah.

Which it is now. I just on 3, I I I just don't like that you're splitting a community. The township has subs in there, whereas Bany Trails has no sub and no master. It's not part of Winston Park, and it's it's own community, and you're splitting up the community.

I mean, we have our personal favorites, but Yeah. It's your decision to make.

This is your decision, not mine.

My thing, other district none of the other maps show a community being split up except for three.

Yeah. Don't like the word carves out that section. It doesn't seem right.

And there's no way to look at that population and to move that into

We have spent a fair amount of time moving dominoes. And these are the four alternatives that make the most sense without violating the basic principles that we've laid out.

So I'm sorry.

May I

Let me just answer your initial point. I just want to correct your statement. Alternative two does fit It's the coquina neighbor.

Oh, it does. Yeah?

That's true. You're right.

Yep. It

does. Oh,

I didn't. I already asked

that question.

That's alright.

As we're chewing on everything,

would it would

it be possible for me just to look at the statutory guidelines really quick again? I don't wanna elaborate on it because I don't wanna contaminate

your conversation a little bit.

Well, we really really address population, race, politics, political.

Right.

This the Florida statute was created in 2023. It's really just now starting to take effect. Okay. It says communities go through redistricting.

So it's it's the timing that's involved. And then also this idea that we can draw districts to favor any incumbent member or a candidate based upon their address.

Right. That's new since the last redistricting board then.

Cheryl, do we have to come up with one choice to present to the commission? Or do we how because they're they ultimately make the decision. Right?

So typically, in the past, what happens is the board comes forward with a recommendation for the commission, which usually is one recommendation, kind of your top recommendation. You could rank them in order if you want and say, well, we prefer number x, you know, as the first one and then y as the second and z as the third. But typically, the board will make a recommendation of one, and then the commission will, you know, look at it. And and generally speaking, they will ratify the decision or the recommendation of the board.

They've always done that.

Yeah.

I can add some comments. The Board, in my experience, which is the experience of the Board, because I think the Board has never had another consultant that I'm aware of, The Board has always made one recommendation. It doesn't mean it was a five-zero vote. You're a Board. It takes three to be a majority. I can remember once, it pops into my head, when it was four to one on which recommendation should go forward. But the Board's recommendation was transmitted to the commission, and then it was approved.

But that's how it has been. That's how it has been. Yes.

I'm just giving you that. As I've lost. Yeah. The legal interpretation is over here. What

was the reason for the little tweak between one and 1a when you put that little section?

The idea is to give Main Street additional room to grow.

That was the low?

That was why we had 1a. It

makes that district, District 2 small.

We were aware that Main Street was a topic of conversation. Okay? And we tried to adjust for that issue clearly in all of our

It also makes the published equity better. Forgetting Main Street growing beyond '23 and nine, the statistics, if you look at that last summary table, which I can pull up in a moment, is actually a little bit better in alternative 1A versus one.

Yeah. It's the best one in terms of the statistics.

You have to decide whether that trade off

Is worth it.

Is worth it. Terrell can speak to this, but I think there's legal precedent that talks about how having a little less population equity is worth it if you're gaining compactness and boundary recognizability, and we're well within the 10% threshold.

Have too many slides. There is the summary table.

So you can see if we look at the mean deviation, right, this is the magic number that, you know, would typically be looked at. Mhmm. We've got 1.7, 1.7%, 4.2% in alternative two. I mean, that's the kind of the outlier. And then 2.2%. But, oh, well below that 10% threshold. Mhmm. And then the only, you know, point that we don't want to gloss over is that the spread number for alternative two does go above 10%. Yeah. But that's on day one. You could expect, you know, a few months down the line, that number would be reduced.

Well, I don't I don't know I don't

know about anyone else. Nobody said anything about alternative two. I mean, you were talking about maybe getting rid of one. Alternative two, I don't think is even an option. Yeah.

I was not saying alternative two.

So do you want to suggest to removing that from consideration? Sure.

You have to speak to

the chair. Oh. Okay.

I think that's fair. So ask.

Do I make motion or Yes. Yes.

Okay. That would

be great.

I made a motion to remove alternative two from further discussion. Second.

All those in favor?

Yes. Yeah.

Any opposed? Okay. Motion carries.

It makes this decision easier. Right? Yeah.

For now the three. So

now we're down to

one one a and three.

And this is a decision that if

made You don't have to make it today. You have

Okay. Okay.

More meetings where you could discuss it. It was just a matter of whether or not you wanted to narrow it down further and discuss it further or if you wanna think about it or you wanna hear what the public has to say. We have vice mayor John Brody and another member of the public. Forgive me. I'm sorry.

I don't know your name. Like to hear what John has

to say about We could open it up to the public to let them say speak. Sure.

Guess,

is there anything stated here? Or we just open it up to the public to speak and call the speaker to be sworn in? Do they guess it's needed to be sworn in at all? No?

I don't think they need to be sworn in. It's not quasi judicial. Okay.

Alright. So First member of the public Yes. Chair.

We don't really have a lectern or anything, so you can see. If you could just state your name for the record. Susan Black.

Thank you. I'm twenty something year member. Citizen of Covenant Group. You discuss breaking up. And I also work on the election board, so I know when people come in and they're in the wrong precinct, and I know all about that, how to When you're discussing the township, we have a lot of different organizations.

It seems to me to break up the township would be the easiest one to break up because we have so many different condo associations and we're pretty much independent of each other. So don't I wouldn't worry about all the towns are being together. That's that's the first thing in my mind. But the issue is going to come in when we vote, and oh, boy, I used to be right across the street over here, and now you're sending me over here.

So that's something to consider.

It drives us nuts when we're accepting voters to vote in Yeah. But now you're not in that exception. Now you're missing. Anyway.

Thank you.

May I interject for a moment? Absolutely. Okay. It is my understanding, and we have the legal interpretation here, an election for city commissioners is at large. No matter what district the commissioner represents, lives in, everybody in the city votes for all commissioners. Mhmm. It's representation by district, not election by district historically. I'm assuming that hasn't been changed.

Correct. Yeah. We can. So he he's right. The election is at large. However, representatives are representing these particular districts.

Therefore, precincts are not involved in terms of the commission districts.

I was just bringing up the fact

that Yeah. I know what you're talking about exactly. I just wanted to make that clear. Everybody gets Okay. That this is that Coker and Accretes' form of government is representation by district, not election by district. There's other terms that they use, okay, for describing that, but that's the terms that I like. Okay.

I I think just at large. Just to clarify, for the twenty twenty nine election, which will be the next local election that we have, the mayor will be representing everybody at large and will be elected at large. The rest of the district commissioners will represent specifically their recognized districts but will be voted in at large. They're not district specific voted in as in some other cities.

No covenants? Oh, I got

a couple.

Me too. Okay.

Next member of the public at large.

John Brody, 4919 Northwest 47th Avenue. Go for that creek. Couple of things. I'm not here to influence anything. I'm this is more of

a learning curve for me

to understand how this whole process work. But I I wanna let everybody know that

they're the

consultant. You're in charge of consultants. If you want something from them, you tell them you want it. Now they may push back because they're the consultants, but this is an important decision you guys are being made. So if you have

a question, you need get it.

You ask them, they're gonna give it to you. That's how this process works. And I know they're push back. You kinda saw it already. Their job is to make sure that, well, you get the data you need to make the decisions you need to make to to the commission.

And, yes, we're elected at large, and and there's an influence of we have to live in those districts. So just keep that in mind. We have to live in those districts. So it's tough. You got a tough decision to make here. But you run this board. If I have a view of the destiny of 60,000 people and how they are represented And I will tell you, as a commissioner, I represent 60,000 people. I don't care where they live. Okay? So it doesn't really impact how people interact with us. It's just that there's representation from an area by a person that's elected. All right. So keep I know this is kind of feeling like this

is gonna

be a weird thing, but I'm be honest with you. If somebody from South Korea comes to me, I hope. Right. And on all the commissioners are the same way. So it's really just a representation map of where we are, where we live, and who we're representing in those neighborhoods. So keep that in mind. It's not like this is a critical thing that somebody all of a sudden is stop coming to me because I I don't live in their district anymore. It's not how it works. If somebody needs help, we help them. But your job here is to to make sure you get everything you need to make your decision. Alright? It's not up to me. It's up to you five. You guys are in charge of this. Their job is to make sure you get all the data, and their job over there is to make sure legally that you can do ask and get the information.

So don't be timid. And just because they push back doesn't mean you can't still ask for it and make them give it to you for your next meeting. So don't make hasty decisions just because they push back. No offense, gentlemen. But We need

to make

sure that this process is understood that they need help because the residents are

not familiar with all this stuff.

If you've questions, you need data, you get it from them to make your decision. Legally, that's your table over there. They're going tell you whether you

can or can't.

But the idea here is that you're making a decision that's going to take us to 2032. And whatever data you have currently right now is how you're basing that. Because 2030 and the data that comes out of that next

Census.

Census is going to change all this information anyway. So you're making a six year informational change because we're going have to be right back doing this in 2032. So understand it. Make the decision on the data you have in hand that they're providing you in hand. I wouldn't go beyond '29 until we have that data. So what you

have in your

hand is what you're going be dealing with. If you need something specific from them, please ask. And if they push back, ask harder. No offense, gentlemen, that this is going to happen to process because I see the back and forth. But you guys, if you want it, this is the time to ask for it.

So this might sound silly then, with that said. On alternative three, if you were to remove the little purple area at the bottom to go back to alternative one and pull out the little one block of Bang And Trails, would that

You wanna

really mess up District 2?

You're saying you want to create an alternative three a where District 4 is the same as in alternative one. Is that what you're suggesting?

Correct.

Yeah. So

And then in this and then that one block of Banyan Trails. That that's what sticks to me. I think You're that one community because and that's why didn't like two either. You're cutting out cocaine.

What we've tried to do again, we were asked to create we were contracted to create for you three alternatives. Right. And in those three alternatives, we've tried to give you those types of the different configurations of work, and the idea is exactly what you're describing. Okay? If you see a district that works like, oh, well, that could work. We could we could make a tweak of three a.

Trying to make her happy and everybody.

That's exactly the type of thing that that might work.

Then why did get that violation?

I I don't Because you need to water your lawn. I agree about Banyan. I definitely agree about Banyan that looking at that, but I also don't like the township being split into three.

But this township is in three right now. That's the only thing. I I know. No. I agree with you. I'm just trying to

figure out what, you know,

would work for everybody.

So

If I can Yeah. Also just say, we we are more than willing to give you anything that you need. We've never said no. You were asked to provide two additional maps last time you provided those two maps. That's not an issue. All we can do as your consultants is to give you our many, many, many years of experience and to help guide you and give you a feedback, but you're the board. We're the consultants.

Brady, what you're suggesting then is almost a swap. You put that section of hammocks in three, and you put the Banyan Trail

section in Two. Right.

Now not knowing the population, it seems Yeah. To

Yeah. I mean, I'm just

Seems to make some sense, but we don't know the population of those two rural areas are.

It and if I may, to board member Smith's comments, I believe that in alternative three, the township is only in two districts.

In three?

Correct. Alternative three, the township is in two districts.

I'm sorry. Is that correct?

That's correct. Yeah. A little a little bit of the southern part of the townships is in District 4. Right. Right. Most of it is in District 3.

So are we saying then alternative three to just move Banyan into two?

Well, they're saying they can't have to sweat, swap something. We have

to figure out.

Yeah. Or Could

Swap that little part of Amicus states. Put that I don't know.

That in. Is

is that something that our consultants could take a look at population wise and see if that

I'm sorry. Didn't catch that.

So if if I may, I just wanna make sure I'm understanding correctly. So what they're talking about is the little blip that's part of Hammocks in four, moving that back to three, and then the part that has to do with Banyan that is in three, moving that to two. It's to not split up the neighborhoods. That's really what I'm hearing you say. So

we are happy to go away and come back to you. Yeah. We're happy to go away.

Yeah. Have one week suggestion.

No. We're happy to go away and come back. Don't forget the come back part. And give you a version that's of three a that that does what you're describing. Well, at least examines what you're describing. I don't see an issue bringing this boundary down to Coconut Creek Parkway. That should shouldn't be a big deal. The bigger issue is gonna be the Banyan Trails problem. We can examine it, and we'll let you know we'll be fined at our next meeting.

So we're talking about the East West instead of the Lions.

In this case, we're talking about alternative three. Yeah? So we've got this large green area here where it's going east to west across the city. And what we've been asked to do is to look at this little piece down here by Coconut Creek Parkway. Mhmm. And I don't think that's gonna be an issue. And then the other issue is the Banyan Trails issue. That we'll see.

That's gonna have an impact on District 2. It's gonna lower its

okay. It's gonna make District 2 bigger.

Yeah. Make it bigger.

In terms of population error. Yes.

Going to make it bigger and therefore less opportunity for Main Street to balance out the population over time.

Have some commentary.

Can I

ask question? Yes.

For clarification, Board Member Martin, do you have the neighborhood map? You had mentioned that a portion of Banyan Trails was not actually part of Banyan Trails.

Yeah. Banyan Point is not part of Banyan Trails.

So if we look at the neighborhood map, can we identify where that area is to see how that falls? Yep.

It's to

the right of the area.

So it's which part

of this? It's the right little corner. Yeah. It's that? Yep.

Yep. I

can show you the inside.

Pebblebrook is the only part of Banyan Trail that's cut out of that part.

So that part could be separated from Banyan Trails and left alone.

Okay. Yeah. Those are apartments that aren't part of Banyan Trails.

Does that give you all more flexibility?

I think the intention is not to split up the neighborhood of Banyan Trails is what I'm hearing.

All that's in Banyan Trails that split up is the Pebblebrook area. The Banyan Point apartments are not part of Banyan Trails.

You can see it there. Pebble Which is called Manor

And Pebble. They just haven't have that name, but that's not part of the community

at saying this area right here is

actually a different community. Correct.

It's called Banyan Point Apartments.

Mhmm. Right. So I guess what she's saying is everything to the left of it, to the west of it, is going to be, if possible, moved up to so just District 2, and everything to the right or to the east in Banyan Pointe apartments could stay in District

3. Correct.

Yes. We yeah. We can absolutely look at that as an alternative three a.

Thank you.

Is that does that

meet your intent of what you're requesting?

Thank you.

What I would like is to have a when we reached a decision that there'd be a Board vote instructing us what to do.

Okay. Okay.

So what what are we are we looking to move all of Banyan Trails into District 3 or District 2 and then slide this open up the parkway block into

3? Or maybe yeah.

Maybe Or we're gonna do this try to split?

Or maybe

Can we ask them to do both?

Versus We

can ask them to do both.

Let me rephrase it just to look at what the impact of the numbers would be in those scenarios. And I don't know if there's any other

Correct. That's back in

the request that might that might come up, and maybe we can just wrap it all into one motion if there are any other ones.

If we could just have one on the board talk at a time because we are recording and it's difficult. Sorry. I'm sorry. Vice chair Balfo, what did you say at the end?

Oh, I was just saying if there's any other cool question I I don't wanna phrase it as a suggestion because I don't think necessarily you're suggesting it. You're saying, can we just see if the numbers what the numbers look like if we were to do that? What? Right? And if there's any other ones that are gonna bubble up or percolate out of our conversation, we could wrap them all into one motion or directive to say, hey. Could where do you want them one at a time as we go

along? Well,

I I mean, I can make a motion to if you could see if the, I guess, the don't know what you Pebblebrook neighborhood? Pebblebrook neighborhood of Banging Trails, the Pebblebrook Block, which is phase three of Banging Trails, could be considered into section two. District 2. District 2 to make it more of a cleaner with the neighborhood.

Okay. And so you just to be clarified because I'm not familiar with this neighborhood as you are. Mhmm. You're saying the portion that's not Point apartments.

The portion that's not Banning Point. Correct. And that's that whole thing is just pedal work.

And you're talking about modifying alternative three to make that severance? Correct.

We're separating out the multifamily from the single family.

Correct. And

including the adjustment back to option one for District 4? Correct. Yes. Removing hammocks. Is

there anything else that the board would like to ask the consultants to address, or is that all as it relates to modifying alternative three?

So that'd be one alternative to three. So three edge. I think a three b is obvious, though, where you cut all of Banyan Point out or Banyan Trails, and then also do the hammocks change. So not splitting

Is that in two different alternatives or one?

That's those are two.

Two. Three and 3B.

Three and 3B.

Okay. So just for clarification, and maybe if you could vote on it, board member Martin I don't know whether to call you Draphic

or Draphic.

I'm sorry. Just Draphic. Okay. Thank you.

Don't know why

I don't know. Sorry. Board board member Draphic, moved a suggestion of modifying alternative three to sever the Pebblebrook Manor portion of Banyan Trails and put it into District 2, basically excluding Banyan Point Apartments, which will remain with District 3, and then also to revert District 4 to the same as it is in alternative one, which is to sever off the park pertaining to the hammocks from District 4 and put it into District 3. Is that correct? So with that, that's her motion.

Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Board member Smith seconded. We take the vote on that or off the pair. I can just ask all those in favor with asking the consultant to modify in that manner. Alternative three.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Any opposed? I'm sorry. Board member Smith, what was your vote? You have to say it audibly. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So if you could do that as an alternative three a, that would be great. And I also heard another possible alternative.

Yep. Motion prior three b alternative to cut off Banyan Trails from three District 3 and putting it into District 2, and then the hammocks from District 4 and putting it into District 3.

So normally, the chair doesn't make a motion. Does somebody adopt that as their motion?

I will make a motion.

Perfect. Just say so adopted.

Yeah. So adopted. Okay. That's what Alex said.

So just to recap on that