Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

I won't do anything until I see them on the screen. the Cloverdale Planning Commission meeting for June 3rd, 2025. Commissioner Carney, would you please start us off with the pledge of allegiance? Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Can I please get a roll call? Let the record reflect that all commissioners are present with the exception of Vice Chair AC and Commissioner WGI, meaning that Commissioner Williams and Commissioner Frankston will be filling in. Thank you. Do any commissioners have any conflicts of interest at this time? Okay. Moving on to item B, public comments. Is there any person wishing to speak on an item that is not currently listed on the agenda? Let the record reflect. There are no public comments at this

time. There are no presentations either. Can we get Oh, no approval of minutes. No public hearings. So we are moving on to item. Is it F1? Correct. I'm missing the Thank you, chair. Um, since I'm not here, you can go there if you want. It's up to you. Sorry. We'll get the seating situated next time, too. We don't even have names. U this this item is a request um from Thompson Builder Corporations to file a one-year extension on their approval of their project which was approved um can let Rough give the details. Uh back in was it 2018 Ralph? It was originally approved. Can you hear me? Yeah. was approved in uh in June of 2022 and the administrative or staff approved administrative one-year time extension in last year in 24. So the conditions of approval allowed for the project for two time extensions, one administrative and then one by the planning commission. So the first one like I said was done last year by staff and the second one here is for the planning commission for a one-year uh time extension for the design review and and tenative map. Um the uh precise development plan um included the was for a 33 lot single family uh detached single family residential subdivision uh known as Vist Oaks at the end of uh Vista View Drive in between at the end at the end of Vis Drive and and North Kovville Boulevard. And yes, yeah, uh the applicant is is present and um is here for any questions if you guys have any. They uh let us know that the request for the time extension is to allow them more

time to submit for the building permits and finish the final map. Um and they expect to do that within the end of the year uh before the expiration of this time extension would be which would be June 2026. Rough, is this the final extension that's available? Yeah. So one more year for the Yeah. For the designer view and tenant map. Yeah. Are there any public comments? Hold on. We're having a video issue. stream and for anyone joining us through Zoom which is zero. Um I think we'll just continue as is and we'll use our backup footage. So, I'll just say this. It's pretty common for big projects like this to get approved and not be able to start construction within the initial approval time period, which I believe is 2 years. Yeah. Two. Yeah. So, often times they come in and through the subdivision map act, which is a state law, they are entitled to get extensions, but there is a limit to those extensions. And this would be the final extension. Again, one more year. I don't know if everyone's familiar with the project. It's a 33 lot residential um kind of up the hill here. The entrance is across from Hamburger Ranch. There's already a road there and some of the lots already graded. There was a lot of conditions put on the project that were pretty heavy duty. Uh there was slide mitigation. There was slides identified. There was some um pretty expensive retaining walls I believe and a bond that needed to be put

in place for I think 10 years so that if the city could be assured that any of the improvements that were put in as part of this project would be you know if anything went wrong they would be able to fix those. So again, it's uh I don't know if you want to come up and say something about your project, but uh it's pretty standard to extend the time on these. Sorry for that mic. You just hit the button. We're having all kinds of fun tonight. Yeah, it's just it now. Yeah, you should be. I'm representing my father-in-law. Hold on. and see if we can build. Uh the reason for the request [Music] is to finish the final map and to uh take care of the financing. We had a couple banks that we were working with that, you know, the interest rates went up. Uh equity requirements also went up and uh we want to make sure that this is something that we can be proud of and that, you know, gets gets built right. And uh I just want to say that we understand that we're at the end of the extensions and um that we will get this bill. Great. Thank you so much. Are there any other public comments? Okay. Seeing that there's no public comments, um is there any comments or discussion from commission? No. Straightforward. Can I get a motion? Yeah. I I would move to grant the Hold on one second. Can you turn the volume up? We can't hear anybody. Yeah, I would move to grant the extension. Yeah.

Um, yes. I would move that uh to adopt the resolution to approve a 12-month time extension on the tenative subdivision map and major design review for Vista Oak subdivision at the north end of Vist Drive. Is there a second? I second it. All in favor? All opposed. Motion passes. Good mic. Thank you very much. We're going to share a power. It'll go through the feed. Great. So, for item F2, potential vacation rental zoning ordinance amendments. Okay. Um, so this item is a discussion of a possibility of expanding the areas where vacation rentals could be allowed, non-hosted vacation rentals. Um, this came out of one of the subcommittee meetings. I'll just give you a little background why would be we even be talking about this, but out of the one of the subcommittee meetings, we were discussing, you know, increasing tourism and things like that. and it was kind of brought up that there wasn't a lot of accommodations for people in town and they they thought that maybe this would be a way to do that. Um I mean we're just looking to have a discussion tonight. You know this is not we're not going to be um you know looking for any definitive direction necessarily. I mean if you want to we can come back with with some recommendations. You can also recommend that we we don't pursue this. We can recommend that we pursue it in certain zones and increase the z the the particular zones that it would be allowed, but we're really just trying to

start a conversation based on our direction at the subcommittee meeting. Next slide. You want to do this one, Rob? Yeah. So, right now there's approximately uh four u non-os ones in in the city. And they say approximately because uh we know that there's, you know, at least like one that changed property owners. I'm not sure if a couple of are even active, you know, um haven't seen them on, you know, like Airbnb and things like that when I do, you know, check every once in a while for things like that. And uh so yeah, we would be looking to Oh, sorry. Yeah. So, the existing ones that right now that the non-hosted ones that they're located in the downtown commercial and the O district um essentially the the residential district just surrounding the DTC. Next slide. And I don't think there's there could be more that are operating without permits. I mean, every once in a while, one will pop up and we send them a letter. Um, we typically get informed by the neighbors. So, there may be a couple of those. And again, we're talking about the non-hosted ones, you know, meaning that, you know, when you rent it, it's you got you're renting the whole property and there's not a host there. And there are hosted ones that, you know, pop up and we that we know about, but yeah, we're just talking about the non-hosted ones. So, um, so they're current non-hosted. So that's just here's the keys, you know, go on in are allowed in downtown commercial, general commercial, and office residential with a use permit. I think the commission considered one maybe a year or two ago. So really the zones where they're allowed are this kind of the core of town and kind of the fringe of around town by a couple blocks. We have a zoning map we can put up, but we can talk about that in a minute. um they're not allowed in residential zones um for obvious reasons and um so the only ones that are allowed in resial zones like we talked about are the hosted ones and those are allow are allowed in the residential zones with a

plot plan review um yeah so the non-hosted is a full planning commission hearing plot plan is an administrative permit yeah so the plot plan one would be approved by staff and that's hosted so just a room in a Next slide. Yeah. Why this matters? Uh again, I kind of talked about this a little bit. It's really about looking at ways to try to get more tourism, more, you know, toot tax and allowing more a more diverse uh accommodations in town. We have the two hotels. Um, some people like them, some people don't. Some people just prefer vacation rentals. And so this again, it came out of the finance subcommittee. Uh, really looking at more options for lodging in Cloverdale. Next slide. So the this is our existing development standards for the for non-hosted ones like the ones that if you remember last summer when we approved uh the the planning commission approved the one on commercial street uh and uh the existing development standards are the ones we're talking about here are the ones that we you know essentially carried on to the conditions of approval of that one like the parking requirement and then you know for inspection uh by the fire or the building. Um it's it's a pretty simple one. It's really just for, you know, smoke detectors and uh a few other things that they check out. Uh yeah, and then there's, you know, obviously the compliance for uh pay payment with the toot and yeah, posting of the rules on site and neighbor noticing the neighbors and we always have the Oh yeah, with the condition. I'm afraid you get too close to this thing, it's starting to feedback. Um you know, we can always revoke the permits. we have put the strict rules on those and that's always an option of course that's the existing ones and I think the next slide

uh shows you know should you know I know it says proposed changes but like Kevin said we're not necessarily proposing this is just for discussion but you know the commission's feeling was to move forward with this these are just an example of what you know some uh new regulations that could be added that staff was thinking about if we work to allow these in residential zones like putting a cap on the maximum number citywide or like uh you know minimum distance between one or the other or you know not more than one on a certain on a particular block. Um and the kind of beefing up what what quiet hours what regulations we have on quiet hours in the existing code. Um and I know this was so the last the 24-hour talk uh within some a person to call in case there's a problem within 20 you know 24-hour availability within a half an hour. I know that was talked about with when we the commission approved the last use permit uh for the vacation rental on commercial street that that wasn't one of our standard ones but again this is just for talking if we you know uh coming up with new regulations if this if the commission wishes to move forward with this that could be something that you know we could include in there and then the last one was um yeah oh this just an you know an idea if uh kind of beefing up what the posting is you know if they have they wanted to put like an actual you know, notice on their door or something like that. Um, I was some of the stuff when I used to work in Heelsburg, you know, there was fine wineries and wine tasting was just the top talk of the town and a lot of the stuff kind of, you know, there was no more than one block face and some of some of them have restaurants and so they could easily put like a sign in their, you know, menu door or menu so that this is when they're they're having an event that day or something like that. But, so we're just kind of brainstorming on some stuff that could go in there. But um I think that you had anything to add on that one, Kevin? Um I mean this just this is kind of

unusual. Most cities are kind of going the other way, clamping down on these. Um so we can have a discussion about it. I mean I we I can report back to the subcommittee that the planning commission's recommendation was to not pursue this. I I think it was just kind of hey let's see if the planning commission what how they feel about this and if there's any ideas. Um so let's um so this I think this is our last slide where there's a map there's recommendations in the map. Yeah. So, I just want to hear what you guys think and if you think it's a good idea, if it's something we could we could say, you know, we're going to allow five of these permits in town. Each one of them would come to you. We could put the strict rules on them. Like, we've already we've already got some pretty good rules. I think another like Raphael said, the the rule of having the 24-hour contact within 30 miles came out of your guys's suggestions on the last one, which is a good one. Um, so I don't know. We can start a conversation. We could also suggest one of the things we were talking about back at the office is you can see where they're allowed now is the DTC which is the red and that's you know downtown. Then the O which is either it could be an office or a home. So it's office residential zoning. What was the other one it's allowed in now? The uh the GC which it's not there's no GC. It's kind of sparse. There's a little bit south of where the map is now. There's some, but um so it says essentially it's the pink part in the center where the downtown is and then the purple that's essentially on the right and the left kind of the purple just to the south that's the to the new would be or I shouldn't even go there but right now yeah it's the pink and then that purple on the other side. So,

and one one thing we were thinking today when we were talking about this was the R2 is generally you can see that's the darker kind of orange generally located around downtown is where we would want to encourage this type of uh use extends down the B or north on the Yeah, it goes up north to you know you can see where it goes to. So, that could be that could be one suggestion. Um or a suggestion could be that we, you know, look at doing this, you know, in all the residential zones, maybe not R3 because it's generally multifamily, but R1 and R2, um R2, R1 makes up a majority of the town residential zoning. So, those are just some I mean, if we can just maybe let me go go down the line and see what you guys think about this and um take notes and and deliver that back to the subcommittee. Do you know how many approximate homes are currently in the allowed zoning and how many the new proposed zoning would allow would increase that number by? Not not off the top of my head. I mean that I would say it's just by looking at the color if we you know so we I guess it depends on what proposed zoning we're talking about. If we're putting all the residential then that's a huge amount you know that's all the you know the current um yeah so right now they're only in the DTC you know yeah that's not 40 50 homes not that many of kind of approximate yeah maybe maybe 50 to 75 I don't know something like that but but yeah uh the increase would if it was all residential yeah it's you know all the houses in the city um I mean a lot of the downtown obviously is commercial buildings There are some homes though, right? Yeah. And then Yeah, especially in the O, you know, in I would say right now it's a pretty limited

scope of 50 actually or less. So it's about four out of every 50 homes if we were to use it on a broader scale. Is that Yeah, I'm just guessing by looking at the number of parcels. Just trying to it's the purple and red. So, pardon seems kind of vague. I mean, you know, we're we don't have any specifics, right? I mean, well, the question is how many homes would be able to get a and I I don't know the answer. I mean, I can get that if you want to. I mean, we could do a simple, you know, GIS analysis of that. I I get that it's, you know, at this point a little more challenging at least from my perspective. Is there any discussion of putting a limit on how many homes or on how many homes, you know, per area? Yeah. Yeah, that's all on the table. I mean, we could I mean, I think a smart thing would be to say there could not be more than one on each block. Would that would be just um and then decide which one goes. If you get multiple applications, whoever files first, it would be a first come. I mean, yeah, there's a good question. I think that's how other jurisdictions do it now, right? Like they're limited. They put a cap on how many can be in that jurisdiction and it's basically first come, first serve. That's how Windsor did it. Windsor's fading them out, phasing them out, but initially that's how they did it. they kind of changed course to they had a certain number they were allowing I think it was 10 and they had all kinds of rules those were used but then they they did reverse course and now they're

phasing those out giving those owners two years to to wrap it up is there do do you know any like specifics why is it just you know general neighbor complaints or I think there was do you know anything about I mean know why? I I don't I mean I just have I kind of went, you know, went to their website when uh just to do some research on it. Yeah, they adopted something in 2023 that is ending in July 1st, you know, just in a few weeks. Um amateur amateurizing the ones that were out there. Um but yeah, it doesn't say why they I remember they had a long hearing about it. I do remember that. I'm curious as to like what the general problems were that they that they had and why they feel the need to now get rid of them. I am sure it's what you suspect. I mean complaints and typically the the the two problems that arise are a it's a housing stock issue and you take a unit out of uh residential unit out that creates problems. And then b a lot of times it's I'll just call it nuisance. You know people coming and going. You don't see them. You don't know who they are etc. So those those are typically the complaints that municipalities have. Whether that's appropriate for Windsor or Hillsburg I really don't know. I had a couple of questions. Uh the first was with regards to hosted. Uh do we have any idea as to how many hosted um there are within Cloverdale? Currently, there's four or five that are permitted. There's maybe like two or three others that aren't permitted right now. And then my other question is, has there been a demand for additional non-hosted? Has has that been presented to the city at all or there are occasional phone calls? I would I mean honestly my personal opinion is if I don't think people are there would be an overwhelming number of

these being applied for if we made changes. Um that's just my my personal take on it. I don't I mean I just don't occasionally I think there was one up on in your neighborhood chair that we had to send them a letter they were doing it and occasionally we'll get a call are they allowed um but not yeah not not not an overwhelming amount roughly how many non-permitted ones have you guys had to site like in that we've done code enforcement like few years yeah less Three maybe. Yeah, there's one I can think I can think of. I know more than Yeah, more than like five at the most. Like two like two or three in the last like three years. Okay. Have we had any issues or complaints with the ones that are currently operating? No. That's good. Do you have any idea of the uh occupancy rate, how often they're rented? No. No. Finance might visibility come from the tot right. Yeah. I mean I mean it's just it's more of a question of you know yeah I mean yeah you can you can go on Airbnb and just you know find them and then check the calendar and that doesn't necessarily mean they're booked. They could be being used by the owners but I don't think they're booked that much. Yeah. probably just special events and family visiting, right? It's not like it's a destination. I mean, we want it to be, but I'm just saying it's not this, you know, coastal city or something that has this huge demand for Yeah. rental. Um, I I could see a benefit to expanding it so that those kind of bad actors that we currently have are getting the permit

and it's being done right and they're having to comply with, you know, regulations and acknowledge the rules. Um, and that, you know, would help neighbors out to have pathways of of complaints and and objections to it. Yeah. Yeah, I will say though like the ones that you know have been unpermitted it's it's I can't think of one that is like out in an R1 like you know out Dell web or it's they're right around downtown if they're not you know are they're in the R2 probably so yeah it's a few bad apples have been right around the the downtown area. Um oh took care of that. Uh, is there a a path for neighbor complaints? I didn't see anything in in there. Um, if do we have anything or could we if we are moving forward with it, put anything in there that does have um a a way that um neighbors can make their voices heard if they're having issues and be able to mitigate those because not everything requires calling a cop, right? Like call, you know, but Yes. Yeah. That's why we're No, maybe they need some mediation. No. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like the uh the again, this is all up in the air, but you know, one of the things we're suggesting is having a 24-hour contact within 30 minutes or 30 miles like uh that the commission came up with last year. Um but then also, you know, this is they would be all use permits and like any other use permit, it's up for revocation. If we get complaints and it's uh we could schedule it for a public hearing for it to be revoked. Okay. Yeah. I was just thinking more like, you know, if it's if it's non-host and there's not somebody there and they've got an issue with something, there's nobody there that they can that they could talk to so able to have a a way to come forward and say, "Hey, I

need this neighbor to do X, Y, and Z or, you know, whatever it may be." Yeah, I could see something like requiring the operator to reach out to some of the neighbor with a and give them a phone number and a contact. We talked about maybe part of the vacancy ordinance is that there's going to be they're supposed to have a phone number on the building. I don't know if we could go that far with it, but um something like that where the immediate neighbors or the block would be informed of the guy the or whoever you know is running its phone number. Um it's I don't know how effective it would be, but it's I think it's a good idea. any uh discussion have you guys had as far as what kind what kind of management it might take such I mean it doesn't it doesn't sound like uh there'd be a whole bunch of effort involved it's hard it just depends on how many might take up on it right just the yeah the question how much time would it take uh city staff to man manage it. I would assume that there's there's a number of different areas that would need to Well, there's the use the use permit which when we bring it to you guys, but they do pay for that. There's a filing fee and then there's the accounting side of it of tracking down the toot and making sure that they're paying the toot and squaring that up. Yeah. Cool. I was going to say maybe there could be a a fine structure for violation because every time the city

has to step in and rectify that that costs money. Um any thoughts on that, Daniel? Yeah. you know, in in general, I tend to be um someone who is thinks that housing stock is really important. And so, my initial inclination is to kind of keep it limited. But the other thing is, you know, I recognize if we're talking about five units currently, you know, and if we're looking at expanding it by maybe another five units or so, that might not be so far um a field. What I would like to know though is what is the toot, you know, what is the benefit essentially to take away this housing stock? What is the city going to get? And so one of the questions that I would have is what are we currently looking at a toot collection for the units that are out there? Because that would certainly weigh into my willingness to extend that further. And I do think that if it is going to be extended, it should be done so pretty much around the downtown area and not far a field from that. Those would be my my primary concerns. And I do agree with um the commissioner that having something in place for the affected people, the neighbors and whatnot, even if it's just a phone number other than the cops that they can call, that would probably be something else I'd like really like to see. Anybody else have any Raphael? Has there been any uh you know when you're putting together your notes any any thought about you know fire safety? I mean you know you know h how it would be um guests would be informed of evacuation routes in the city you know should we have catastrophe kind of catastrophic event of some sort. I mean, is that does that even come into play? Do we Is it

even really that big of a deal? I think it's follow the crowd, but it's just something that they're uh before they get their permit, you know, they have to have the fire or the buildings inspect, but like I said, it's pretty simple. They're checking out like fire extinguisher and uh you know, smoke alarms, anything like that. I don't I don't know that they require that they have a evacuation map in the house, something like that. posted with the I mean it's not unreasonable to have it posted with the the rules, right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay. And I can't I can't see this being a huge hurdle for stock reduction like you're saying, Daniel, right? So, just or neighborhood disruption. I mean at least from historically what we've had so far I think it definitely needs to be capped and then it can be re-evaluated after a certain duration if we have reached that cap and then there's more people and we get more demand and then maybe we we look at it after you know every every certain period we say how many do we have how many people are are searching for new permits and we can evaluate our inventory at that time and um and uh go from there. What that cap is Yeah, I But what that cap is, I don't know. I mean, maybe we're just talking about doubling it right now. We're at four. We could move the the marker to allow another four outside of that zone. Or what what are your thoughts on the suggesting the R R2? Can you zoom out a little, Mike, so look at that again? I think that's probably the primary area I would see it. Although I don't know. I think there's

some pretty nice homes um up on the west side. Not that there aren't on the uh on the east side either, but I'm thinking of kind of like the cottages and stuff that maybe have a pool and different amenities like that that might be attractive to to people. But again, there aren't a lot of four or five bedroomedroom homes in Cloverdale. And if we are and that is where a lot of them are and if we're we're allowing those vacation rentals, we are taking them away from residents, potential residents. So that is, I guess, something to consider as well. But to your primary question, I think R2, yes, would be probably the the primary zone where we want to bring those people in and getting get them coming to downtown and and to the events we have. Yeah. Um, first of all, I want to really agree with you about evaluating and starting slow and possibly moving up after that. But then I noted that originally the additions were the transitoriented district and the SC. So I don't know if the idea would be to have those two as well as our two possible areas. And going back to that map, just leave that map up. So maybe the cap should be per area like our two could be you know we allow so many in in this vicinity and in this area and then an easy way might be to just say we have five available is there currently a cap on how many per year there is not but they have to be confined to those two zones and this is strictly non-hosted yes I don't know these are just I mean we're going to massage this thing It's just, you know. Yeah. Any other comments or questions?

It just seems like, you know, the R2 zone would be most desirable, but that's maybe from our perspective. And then like Melissa brought up that you know some of the other more outline areas with larger homes might be interesting as well. So you know perhaps the thing to consider would be a number some number of permits that are allowed on this first come first serve basis uh citywide. I mean, unless we wanted to just maintain traffic in the core the core of the city like that, you know, R2 in, right? Tough because I mean, downtown is pretty much walking distance from most parts that we're looking at. Do you think you have a point about the bigger house for weddings and not to have the wedding there, but like families and Our events are usually a day or you know not not you know a day long right if so you know the host want somebody for a weekend they be looking for maybe a more accommodating home to you know cover a large family or group of people and so that would open up the other areas like the cottages that you're talking about outside of the R2 area. I yeah I I Well, I think the art might be city's perspective, but from actually functioning well, we might want, you know, might consider opening up broadly, but cap the number of units and see how well it works out. I know, you know, if you look at the Russian River area, they've had all kinds of mischief, right? So it's so you know are do we do

this do we do it for a certain amount of time try it out see how it works you know it's it's hard to say I mean I'd be open to at least giving it a try but you know probably more so than just that core zone maybe it would be helpful moving forward if when people do call to inquire we find about what vicinity they're in and that can um help us navigate it in the future and say, "Okay, well, maybe we do need to open up this area or, you know, maybe there's no interest in certain areas and we don't even need to." It's a moot point, but um it's hard to gauge when we don't know who has interest in opening one. Um you don't want to tell you know one group of residents you get to do this and tell another group sorry you don't I get the first come first serve but at the same time it's like how can we if we put a a limit on it and we allow it pretty much wherever and put it at first come first serve then we're not telling one group of residents they can do something that another group of residents can't can or can't. Yeah, I think uh I like the cap. I like it in all a lot of the zones. I don't think people are going to be kicking the door down to do these. I think there might be a couple that would pop up. Uh again, the intent was to, you know, help the tourism industry to give people different options on where they can stay. I mean, I I always rent houses wherever I go. So, I do understand that. So, um I can take what you guys have said and uh bring this to the subcommittee, which is happening next

Tuesday, and see where they want to go with it. If they tell me to come back, I mean, we may be coming back in the future with more information and more. We're not going to move fast on it. I mean, we can try to quantify the toot. You wanted Commissioner Frankston and um a cap, maybe look at some other cities that are doing it, come up with some I think we've got some good ideas on the rules. There's a lot of rules in there and we just got a few more. So, if it's okay with the commission, I would like to present this to the subcommittee next week, see what they tell me, and I'll report back either way. I mean, they might may have changed their minds or um we may be back with some more concrete things to keep refining. Great. All right. Thank you. It's good. Uh moving on to item G, commission commissioner reports. Do we have any commissioner reports today? Department reports. Uh I'd like to introduce our new one of our new council members, Mark Laskkey. He's uh the he's the planning commission liaison. So he'll be here when he can to enjoy our wonderful conversations. Take it away. Welcome commissioners. Just like Kevin said, just like to introduce myself. I'm the planning commission leazison. I when Gus resigned, I was newly appointed. So like once again introduce myself. My door is always open. email and phone number is on my daily business card wrong city council. Nice to meet you all. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. Uh, one other thing I wanted to report on is I had a meeting with um, Esmeralda last

week and they have a very aggressive schedule for um, getting entitled. So there's going to be a lot coming your way. Not right away, but they do uh they do have a pretty aggressive schedule. So right now they're completing the SQL work, the redesign work, and there's all kinds of planning, you know, precise development plan, the plan development, and all those things that you guys are going to be diving into. And they're also planning to have three at least three community workshops that don't necessarily involve you unless you want to attend. and I would encourage that. They're not scheduled yet, but he really wanted me to uh let the commission know that they are working hard and it's going to be coming forward and there's going to be some heavy lifting on the commission's part in the next six, eight months. Um but I saw that they did have some sort of event. Maybe they had Yeah, they did at the history center. It was the Thursday before Memorial Day and I don't I didn't go to it, but I heard it was pretty good. So, they may use the history center for future ones as well. That's the end of my report. Uh any commission direction on future agenda items? Anything anybody wants to see added to the agenda? Okay. All righty then. Um, I'd like to adjourn the June 3rd, 2025 Cloverdale Planning Commission meeting. Um, next planning commission meeting will be the August. Well, unfortunately, we may have to have a special one in July. We didn't tell Mike about that yet. August. Okay. So, until a July 1, we'll have a No. Yeah, we'll see. Yes. There's some

timely things. Appreciate it. Okay. So, uh, call it call this meeting adjourned at 6:46.