Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

All right. Good morning, everyone. I will now call to order at this Clackamas County Board of Commissioners meeting on 04/30/2026. County Administrator Gary Schmidt, will you call the poll?

Yes, Vice Chair. Thank you. First, our staff support today, County Counsel Billy Williams Clerk to the Board Andrew Jarocchi. Chair Roberts is out of the office today. He's not been feeling well this week, but he will he's feeling much better. He'll be back next week. So Vice Chair Schrader will chair today's meeting. Roll call. Commissioner West?

Here.

Commissioner Sabbis? Present. Commissioner Helm?

Here.

Chair Schrader?

Present. Alrighty. So I would like I'm wondering if Commissioner Helm would like to lead us into the pledge of allegiance? Sure. This time. I

pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

All righty, Gary. Let me get my script open here. So the first thing up is public communication. Testimony is limited to three minutes per person, and I ask that the comments be respectful and courteous. As a reminder, you can email submissionsforpubliccommunication@bccclackmus.us, and they will be accepted for our public record. I will take in person testimony first. So clerk, will you check and see if there's anyone here who, wants in person and or virtual testimony?

Thank you, madam chair. I currently have no blue cards. This is a reminder if you're attending this meeting in person wish to comment during general public communication. This is your opportunity to please fill out a blue card and deposit in the box that can be found by the center doors. Seeing no members of the public physically present, madam chair with your assent, I'll move on to those attending virtually. If you're attending this meeting virtually in which to comment during general public communication, this is your opportunity to please raise your hand. Tate Schaffer. Tate Schaffer. I apologize that's a mispronunciation. I'll mute you.

Please introduce yourself. You'll have three minutes. If you are speaking, we currently cannot hear you. I see that you are muted but we still cannot hear you. Madam chair, it appears the constituent is having technical issues. I see no others members of the public who are raising their hand to speak.

Yes, I would just suggest that the constituent, know, we don't get your input this meeting. Hopefully, we can figure out or you can help figure out what the glitch is as well and you can testify. So, with that, let's move on. Administrator Schnitz, and what is our first item today?

Thank you, Chair. First up is the presentation, approval of a proclamation of April 2026 as Child Abuse Prevention Month in Clackamas County. Presenting is Mary Rumbaugh, Director of Health Housing and Human Services, and Robson Reyes, Development Director of the Children's Center. Welcome and go ahead please.

Good morning Chair Schrader and Commissioners. It just throws me off. I have my script in my head. Again, I'm Mary Rumba, Health Housing and Human Services Director. On behalf of H3S and the Children's Center, thank you for the opportunity to highlight the importance of Child Abuse Prevention Month, which is recognized during the month of April.

I am joined today by Robson Reyes, who is the Children's Center Development Director. Thank you for being here. Also in the room, filling the room up today, Brian Nava, our County Treasurer, who's also board member of Children's Center Adam Freer, who's the division director for Children, Families, and Community Connection one of our staff, Sophia Butler with CFCC, who is also our parenting hub director Cassie Stewart, our public health nurse home visiting supervisor as well as Sarah Van Dyke, our Clackamas County Domestic Violence Systems Coordinator. So, evidence shows that caregivers who create safe, positive relationships with children, who practice nurturing parenting skills, and who provide emotional support are protective factors from child abuse. There are also important community factors that protect children from abuse, including families who have access to nurturing and safe childcare families who have access to safe, engaging after school programs and activities and families who have access to medical care and mental health services.

Every day, Clackamas County staff do work to prevent child abuse, and we do it in partnership. We have a Clackamas County Multidisciplinary Team, which shares the commitment to strengthen families child maltreatment. Members of those team include staff from the Children's Center, our district attorney's office and sheriff's office, our local Oregon Department of Human Services child welfare, our H3S staff, and others. And within Health, Housing, and Human Services, there are many programs that promote the protective factors mentioned, preventing child abuse from happening in the first place. Here's just a couple of examples of the work that we've been doing over the last fiscal year.

Within public health, we served over 200 clients through our nurse home visiting. Each home visit consists of screening, education, positive parent child interaction promotion, and resources for families to increase skills and decrease risk of child endangerment. We also ensured that over 6,900 individuals had access to nutrition education and food resources through WIC, thus decreasing family stress and risk of child abuse. And working with both CFCC and the Child Abuse MDT, we decreased infant sleep related fatalities in the county by eighty four percent through family and prenatal education. Within CFCC, we're providing evidence based culturally responsive parenting classes to three ninety parents.

We're trained we've trained 115 childcare and preschool providers in what's called cards for connection, which gives providers tools and strategies to strengthen relational health, address behavioral challenges, and support mental health needs. We've supported over 900 middle and high school high schoolers through after school activities focused on skill building and resilience. We assisted over 200 families in accessing quality licensed preschool programs. And lastly, over 700 people access services at a Safe Place Family Justice Center, assuring that families experiencing violence have the resources they need to protect themselves and their children from further harm. Child Abuse Prevention Month shines a national spotlight on the importance of centering families and building communities where children can grow up safe, healthy, and supported.

We would request that the board officially recognize April as Child Abuse Prevention Month in Clackamas County, and that the proclamation be read out loud by Robson Reyes. And before we do so, I'd welcome any questions.

Colleagues, any questions? Mr. West?

I want to give a quick shout out to this is a great proclamation and we should be doing this. But to the cost of Clackamas County, just it's a personal one for me. When we were adopting her son and had other foster care children in our home and many of them had some very severe and high needs to be dealt with, lot of them behavioral, some of them medical, some of them both. When we were dealing with the courts and going through the court system, and often very overwhelming, the CASA was godsend to our family. I know that many families throughout Clackamas County, and they are very much part of this process with helping kids that have been through horrible things and things that no kid should go through.

I just want to give CASA a quick shout out. Mary, did a great job listing so many of the ways in which we are upholding this proclamation. But that was personal to me as you're reading it. Triggered my memory and I wanted to just say thank you to CASA and to all their volunteers that do good work for kids.

Very appropriate. Thank you. Commissioner Helm.

Thank you. I'm going to try to channel Chair Wadlitz here because he knows This is one of his this is his wheelhouse. Because it is like one in six children will be experience domestic violence. And I just, I'm just such a huge supporter of Children's Center, as you well know, The work you do is so important, and sadly so needed. Hopefully, someday you'll be out of a job. Yes, Right? You know, ideally, for that's where that's what we would work But just I just want to say thank you for all the good work you do, and we want to be supportive as supportive as possible.

Thank We appreciate

it. Thank you.

Ms. Thank you. Commissioner Stavas.

I really appreciate the work you all do, and I remember when the new facility in Oregon City opened fifteen years ago and toured the facility and learned about the work that was being done, It was an eye opener, for me. I had no idea that it was it was to that level, number of children being abused. In my early life, I saw my mom did day care, so I saw more neglect than I saw actual physical abuse, right? So I learned that aspect of it, and I realized that. But it is sombering, and like I said, we love to work you out of a job.

Yes. Couldn't say it any better, but we do appreciate what you all do, and hopefully we can move the needle.

Yeah. No, we appreciate everything that all of you guys have done over the years for organization and for the community.

Again, yesterday when we were speaking in another event, was feeling like I was a historian of Clackamas County, but I was on the bottom floor when we first started this. It was with Willamette Falls, Rita Adamack at the time. We had a number of physicians Willamette Falls involved in this as well. The first director was a close friend of mine and my gosh that was back in 02/2004. Since we started that it has absolutely flourished as an organization for something that' so critical to our children.

It's nice for me to again look back and see wow I was there at the I was lucky enough to be there at the beginning with a really great group of people that saw this as a need. It's actually at one of your galas. It was actually when I first started to donate my dinners for us. So if you have a gala anytime soon. Yeah. Right?

They just had it. They just had it.

Oh, you know. Well, then I need to pay more attention. Okay. Well, next time put me on the list and I'll We'll be. We'll do that. And we'll get Diana to come too because she helps bid up the

Yeah. Did quite well. She did quite well at the most recent day.

So in any case, would you please read the

Of course, yeah.

Population?

Child abuse prevention month, April 26, a proclamation. Whereas children are vital to our county's future success, prosperity, and quality of life, as well as being our most vulnerable assets. Whereas all children deserve to have the safe, stable, nurturing homes and communities they need to foster their healthy growth and development. Whereas child abuse and neglect is a community responsibility affecting both the current and future quality of life of a community. Whereas communities that provide parents with the social support, knowledge of parenting, and child development, and concrete resources they need to cope with stress and nurture their children and ensure all children grow to their full potential.

Whereas, effective child abuse prevention strategies succeed because partnerships created among citizens, human service agencies, schools, faith communities, healthcare providers, civic organizations, law enforcement agencies, and the business community. Now, therefore, as the Board of County Commissioners of Clackamas County, we do hereby declare April 2026 Child Abuse Prevention Month. We call all citizens, county, and community agencies, faith groups, medical facilities, elected leaders, and businesses to increase their participation in our efforts to support families, thereby preventing child abuse and neglect, and strengthening the communities in which we live.

VANILA On this date, 04/30/2026.

VANILA Thank you so much, colleagues. Can I have a motion to approve our proclamation?

VANILA I move we approve the proclamation.

VANILA Second.

It's been moved by Commissioner Savas and seconded by Commissioner Helm. Will you please call the poll clerk?

Commissioner West. Aye. Commissioner Helm.

Aye.

Commissioner Savas. Aye. Madam Chair.

Aye. It is approved. Okay. So are we going to do a photo today Gary? Yes. I think so. I'd like to call everybody up so we can get a photo up up here. That would be fantastic.

The proclamation has twenty twenty five on it.

We will correct the date.

We'll correct the date

on that question. It was not a number. Sorry.

There's a column missing and I think

we're like, this is normal. I am that person.

Are we ready? Let's go this way. Perfect. And one more. There. Good to go. Someone

did. It's Okay.

It's always nice to see something start and see how it's thriving through the years, In any case Alrighty. What's next, Gary?

Thank you chair next is the consent agenda for the board of county commissioners. Andrew would you please read the consent agenda.

Consent agenda for the board of county commissioners. Item a elected officials one approval of previous business meeting minutes for the board of county commissioners. B, finance. One, approval of a sublease agreement with American Property Management for justice court parking lot spaces. Agreement value is $1,752 for one year. Funding is through justice court fees and fines. No county general funds are involved. C, technology services. One, approval of purchase order with Tyler Technologies for justice court cloud software systems. Order value is $353,970 for three years.

Funding is through justice court fees and fines. No county general funds are involved. D, disaster management. One, approval of a grant agreement with Oregon Emergency Management for fiscal year twenty twenty five emergency management performance grant. Agreement value is $302,281 for one year funding is the Oregon emergency management and a required match of $151,140.50 in budgeted county general funds e health, housing, human services.

One, approval of an amendment to a personal services contract with the Father's Heart Street Ministry for reduced maintenance and janitorial services at the crisis stabilization center. Amendment value is a reduction of $49,720 for one year. Total agreement value is $14,454,514.24 for three years. Funding is through supportive housing services measure funds and $300,062,912 dollars of budgeted county general funds. Two, approval of an amendment to a motel hotel services contract with YKC Hospitality for on call hotel rooms used as temporary housing.

Amendment value is $1,996,400 for one year. Total contract value is $5,240,300 for three years. Funding is through Metro Supportive Housing Services measure funds. No county general funds are involved. Three, approval of a personal services agreement with Oregon EMS specialists to provide services as associate emergency medical services medical directors. Agreement value is $366,000 for five years. Funding is the American Medical Response Agreement System Enhancement Funds. No county general funds are involved. Four, approval of grant renewal application to Oregon Department of Human Services for supplemental nutrition assistance program training and employment program. Grant value is $175,000 for one year.

Funding is the Oregon Department of Human Services and a required match of $175,000 in budgeted county general funds. Five, approval of a co applicant agreement with Clackamas County Community Health Council for provision of federally qualified health center services. Agreement has no fiscal impact in the duration of two years. No county general funds are involved. F, transportation development. One, approval resolution authorizing the county administrator to sign for a special public works fund loan and a related intergovernmental agreement amendment with the fair board for the fairgrounds multipurpose event center. Loan values $2,500,000 for fifteen years no kind of general funds are involved Madam chair that concludes the board county commissioners consent agenda.

Thank you so much clerk do any of my colleagues wish to remove an item if not may I have a motion please

Chair I move to approve the consent agenda as

read. Second.

So it's been motion from Commissioner West and a second from Commissioner Helm. So let us do the poll.

Commissioner Savvas. Aye. Commissioner Helm. Aye. Commissioner West. Aye. Madam Chair. Aye. Motion passes four to zero Madam Chair.

Okay. I will now recess as the Board of County Commissioners and convene as the Water and Environment Services Board of Director. Gary, what's next?

Next is the consent agenda for Water Environment Services. Andrew, would you please read the consent agenda?

Water Environment Services Board of Directors Consent Agenda. Item A, approval of a construction manager general contractor agreement with Slating Constructors for the Tri City Water Resource Recovery Facility Influen Pump Station Expansion Project. Agreement value is $235,212 for four years. Funding is through water environment services and sanitary sewer construction funds. No county general funds are involved. B, approval of personal services contract with Stantec Consulting Services for on call engineering construction services. Contract value is $1,000,000 for four years. Funding is through water environment services, sanitary sewer operating construction funds. No county general funds are involved. C, approval of a contract amendment with Streamer Sheet Metal Works to replace ventilation equipment for the Evelyn Creek and Carver pump stations.

Amendment value is $34,314.37 and no time change. Total contract value is $172,314.37 for two years. Funding is the water environment services sanitary sewer construction funds. No county general funds are involved. Madam Chair that concludes the water environment services board directors consent agenda.

Does any director wish to remove an item? Seeing none may I have a motion.

Chair I move to approve the consent agenda as read.

Second.

It's been a motion from Commissioner West seconded by commissioner Helm. Clerk, will you call the poll, please? Director Savas? Aye. Director Helm?

Aye.

Director West? Aye. Madam Chair?

Aye.

Motion passes. Four to zero, madam chair.

I will now adjourn as the Water Environment Services Board of Directors and reconvene as the Board of County Commissioners. Gary? Next.

Thank you Chair. Next is County Administrator update. That is me. I like to recognize our County employees and programs during my time. Today we like to share some input and recognition of our county's Women, Infants, and Children program, also goes by the acronym WIC, W I C. This program helps low income women, infants, and children by providing nutritious foods, breastfeeding support, and health resources. WIC clients provide evaluations to our staff for their work, and here are two recent examples that were shared. The nutritionist Jill Wright is amazing. She listens to what's new and what's going, good or bad, and suggests things for improvement that are always helpful and realistic. I leave our check ins feeling empowered and supportive.

Next, Wick has helped provide myself and my family financially by providing more food options and formula for free. They have also blessed me with an unlimited amount of resources to better my well-being and the well-being of the people I love. Thank you to our team in the WIC program. This is a division of our Health, Housing, and Human Services Department. In particular, our staff that works in the WIC program, Jill Wright, who you heard, as well as Alondra Zwinga, Audrey Huber, Beth Bronstein, Denise Martinez, Melissa Wynn, Tatiana Kushniryuk, and David Kanalis.

Thank you for your outstanding work and another example of how our employees do our best to support the public every day. That is my update for today. Thank you, commissioners. Back to you.

Okay. Thank you so much. Now it is time with commissioner communication. Commissioner Savas, would you like to start us off?

Sure. Think as you probably heard me say in the last year, actually since the last budget cycle and knowing the long term forecast in order to pay the courthouse payments, I've from time to time mentioned that it's going to take a lot of fiscal discipline amongst us to make sure we stay out of the red and stay in the black. And if we want to add something to our budget that we find a means to reduce that to balance it out. And I I don't wanna be don't wanna, you know, beat a dead horse or anything else, but, you know, budget is around the corner and I am kinda concerned that, you know, this reminder that we got up here on the diocese, I've held it up several times. I was hoping that we would figure out ways to either address that and now it's, in the red here showing about 4,900,000 and I know that as I understand it, budget will have a means of trying to bake that in the long term forecast, which means that it will be many more years in the red in the future than what I envision as being, you know, all those years being in the black as best as possible.

So I have concerns. And I also have the concern in history of knowing that once the budget's baked, we seem to can't we don't we're not very successful at really moving it, right? We make little adjustments on the edges, but this is substantial and I'm, you know, I've shared this with the administrator that, you know, I think I'm going take a very deliberate approach to say, to challenge that, you know, and I'm giving you all a heads up, that we don't just bake this in. We can't afford it. Because we keep on doing this year after year after year.

I'm sorry, but I just can't kick the can. I can't pass that burden on to future commissions and future residents of this county. And so I will be outspoken. I just want to put that there out front that I think there's ways and it will rely upon I think the safety levy passing in May ideally. It will rely upon that but I think we need to do a little bit deeper dive in the math and I'm also hoping that we can really work closely with our budget committee members and look at see how we can either do a either centralize the budget and or do line item budgeting to make sure that the services that we prioritize are line item budgeted versus leaving that up to maybe the discretion of other departments that have the ability to move money or move positions around.

So I'm just asking for patience and when I look at the budget calendar, it looks like we're done before June, right? The way it's scheduled. The week after the budget cycle, that one week there, there's nothing, there's no held dates in, you know, the first business day in June. So I I don't know if it'll have to go that far, but I I don't wanna, again, surprise you all that I I'll be asking for something that we've never been able to do in my fifteen years in budget. That's really, really alter move our the trajectory of what the the budget the presented budget is versus what the final budget we we really don't move that needle and I think we're now, I think, is the time and the call to actually look at it completely differently.

So I'm asking maybe that staff be as prepared as possible with some options, not just what's presented. That's a lot. And I think to keep that emphasis there, I'm going to yield back to the chair.

Okay. Thank you so much. Commissioner West.

I'm going to echo some of what Commissioner Soffe says. I think we should be prepared also for a line item budget. I've been saying that over and over again. I'm calling for a line item budget of the CCSO specifically. We've made a lot of progress. It looks like finally the CCSO has become compliant to the audit recommendations. It's taking too many years to get there. We have to be good stewards and accountable for every department and every taxpayer dollar. That's while also fully funding a well running sheriff's department. We have to find that balance to both and to be fully transparent in that process.

I think at this point to get there we need to do a full line item. That might take some extra days, Gary. You might want to make sure that's on the calendar and make sure we have time to do that. This isn't maybe the first time I might be saying it publicly, but I've been calling for this behind the scenes here for a few weeks now, months now, as we continue to see how this budget is going to unfold. I really had a great time yesterday actually at the Oregon the Oregon the Clackamas County business oh, I can't talk. What what am I missing?

CCBA. CCBA. There you go.

You. I was like had three different chambers and business alliances coming out of my mouth at the same time. So that was a great crowd at the Abernathy Center. Is that what it is? In Carver or Abernathy Carver Carver Events Center. The No. Abernathy. Listen, I can't I'm complaining everything today. So you have Oregon City, Abernathy, which is not where we were. We have Carver Center which is a great venue. I We hadn't had a venue there yet. That was great. I liked it. I think we should do more venues there. But, I think our conversation around where the transportation issues and infrastructure intersect with the business community was a really good conversation.

I appreciated the perspective and the insight from all of my colleagues there. Unfortunately, we're still missing Chair Roberts because he is ill. We are hoping that he gets well soon. I guess the other thing that we need to talk about is I feel like we've spent a lot of time in the county, rightfully so, focusing on housing is a large umbrella. We focused a lot on those that are finding themselves close to being on the streets or on the streets in our community.

That is an emerging thing. We've given a lot of resources to that. We haven't done enough and have a lot of additional work to do around affordability with housing in general. Have in Clackamas County I know we have tried to focus hard on regulatory reform that we cut red tape, that we make sure that building permits and construction delays on the government side are as minimal as possible and that we're helping to be part of the solution and not gumming up good projects. Have done good work there.

There's more to do. I know commissioner helm and commissioner saw this and I are hearing stories all the time and we're trying to be responsive to those and to get answers. We don't want permitting delays. We want good enforcement to the ordinance and the rule of law. We want to be common sense oriented and customer service oriented. We need some serious land use changes in Oregon. We're bound by those statues and state laws that create barriers to getting development done. We could start cooking with gas if we had good modernized reforms that were common sense around land use. I support financial incentives. Know we're bringing Merle forward We just did C PACE.

All the tools in the toolbox, are open to them. We're trying to figure out how to implement those in Clackamas County while other jurisdictions lag and don't get them done. We're trying to get them done here. Supporting tax benefits also for and creative ways to make homeownership and first time homeownership and veteran homeownership more accessible. I know we promote here.

We also are having conversations around how do we support seniors so they have stable housing into the future so they aren't taxed out of their homes than which they've even paid off and we do have real financial burdens hitting seniors in a way that is alarming. We talk about that often. That's front of mind for us. Then we've done recovery housing. We need transitional housing which we lack in the reason to help those that are actually living on the streets and homeless and have different reasons why they are there.

We fight for local control. We want to support the right for our community to be self determined in managing the interest of Clackamas County and our local communities and what housing may look like in Clackamas County may be different than what it looks like in other places throughout the state or even within the metro region. We want to make sure we're an example and forward thinking on how to do that and work with our caucus and other legislators to bring that message forward so we can get good solutions through the different layers of government. We're working on housing. We have a lot more work to do. That's maybe a little quick synopsis of where we've been. That's all I have, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner West. Commissioner Hill.

Thank you. I ditto, I, the budget is a grave concern, and I think we really need to pay really close attention to it and give it more time this year than, it was my first week last year, so it was baptism by fire for sure. So, the business in the county forum we had yesterday at the Carver Event Center, I did think went really well too. I was given the topic of transit, and I was brutally honest. And I won't apologize for my honesty, because I threw out a lot of numbers.

Having to do with TriMet, it just, I want to express my concern about the disparity between the service we get in Clackamas County and the funding we receive through Tri So, anyway, I just want you to know that I like working with our other partners in our other jurisdictions, but we in Clackamas County have a different geographical area we're working with. We have very rural areas, and we need to address our all these cuts we're getting from Tri Med. So, anyway, just kind of setting the stage for that. Right after that, I went to the Oregon City, State Of The City, along with Commissioner Schrader, because it's Mayor McGriff's final year. She's termed out, and this was a big goodbye to her.

It was wonderful. Kind of sad. It was kind of sad, but she's done a lot of good work in Oregon City, and she's going to stay very involved after her, I would say retirement. But she's not going away. But it was a great presentation.

And she spoke for quite a long time, and she's done a lot of good things for Oregon City. Then I had, right after that, more of a webinar, just to bring you guys up to speed. The Rose Quarter, they will be closing I five for five weeks straight, starting September 11. And it's, I think it's only, I want to say only southbound. They're, they've been working on this since last year.

And we are going to need to get the word out to our citizens so that everyone can change their schedules, their travel, if they and here's why. Because even if you're not going to I-five, it's going to divert this traffic onto 20 So, this was just kind of the beginning of the conversations about the traffic impacts this is going to have. So I want to work with PGA on how best to get information out. We actually asked too, is there a way to get this information up on Google Maps or Waze or Apple Maps ahead of time so people are aware? Because it's going to be a really big campaign to try to get the word They've looked at all the options on, you know, closing one lane, which would cost 4 to $6,000,000 more, back up traffic even farther.

So they're trying to consolidate this into a five week, twenty fourseven operation to fix this one area of the Rose Quarter. So anyway, just kind of a heads up on that. It was a little alarming because I wasn't aware of it. I'm like, wow, this is is gonna be big. So I think that's it

for now.

Commissioner, how much do you wanna bet that that's not five weeks, but they don't go within budget or within time frame?

I am not Not to be, like, more honestly, I am not a gambling person.

So

Would you bet? No. Would that

they would

be on time and on budget.

But they did say that if they finish early, they will open the freeway up early.

Well, that's good. Yeah. They never have done that, though.

Okay. Just saying.

I'm sorry.

It's all right.

I feel the same way.

I do, too. And I'm a little alarmed, too, with this information, actually, because the roundabout that's going on forever, as I come on down 43 with all kinds of things still up and around, you're trying to circle. There's always something kind of barrier somewhere that you have to try and avoid. That's going to really yeah, it'll really choke 43.

I will say though, they're doing it after kids are back in school. So, I mean, they're not doing it over the summer. They're doing it hopefully after the summer traffic rush. So, hopefully that will help a I little

hope so. But, I'll try to get here more frequently on time. But if it's backed up like that, that might become less possible. In any case, I just want to thank my colleagues. I think the event yesterday at the KLACTEC Business Alliance went very well.

Certainly, it was a pleasure to be up there with you and hear all the expertise and things that you've been working on. What I've been working on lately is the garbage situation, the Ristal Waste Advisory Commission. We're going to be having our meeting today, And there's been talk of Metro actually having one of the stations be managed internally solely by Metro. So that's going to be an interesting conversation today that I have a whole prep sheet for that I will have to weigh in on that. One of the other things that I had an opportunity to do on this issue is meet with Counselor Lewis, because she is on that board with me.

And she explained to me from her point of view why they were moving in this direction. I still have some concerns, but we'll see what happens at the meeting tonight. Usually, if the structure isn't broken, what are we really trying to fix here? And can really Metro do it in a much more efficient way? That remains to be seen.

I think it's the questions that we all have for that. And finally, tonight, I get to speak to my own neighborhood association, Evergreen Neighborhood in Lake Oswego, about all things county, and I'm really looking forward to that. And I hope I'm hopeful that I can get to some of the other neighborhood associations in Lake Oswego because in terms of what they've been doing, I know Ben you mentioned housing, but I just wanted to remind folks that when we had ARPA dollars, we gave I think 800,000,000 to Lake Oswego. And so what they invested in was habitat for humanity. They have now some really lovely new housing in their area that is now going to be open to people to not only move into housing but make it affordable and permanent so they can build wealth and prosperity.

That' all I have today so with that let' adjourn.