Council - Regular Meeting

of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please remain standing, Miss Gary. Thank you, Father. Father, thank you for the council. Amen. Thank you all. Now be seated. Miss Gary, if you could please take role. Joseph, present. Present.

Does everybody have their microphones on? Yes. Yes. We have a quorum with all members present. Moving on to the approval of the agenda. I know we have at least one a sorry one amendment to the agenda. I do. It is uh lights over Morris Lake letter. They like to It's an annual letter that you sign under new business. It is. That's where the meeting is tonight. Okay. Any other additions? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda as amended. So move. Dennis Johnson second. Emily Pearson's motion a second. All in favor?

Opposed. Have an agenda. Uh moving along to the approval of prior minutes. Is everyone had an opportunity to review the amendment minutes the minutes from January 31st, 2026. Janu uh for the exec session, January 31st, 2026 for the retreat and February 3rd, 2026 for the general town council meeting. good with the revision that you had. Yes. Okay. I'll make a motion to approve those three sets of excuse [clears throat] me minutes. Second, Dennis Johnson. Motion, a second. All in favor?

I opposed. Go there. Moving on to the approval of the claims. Has everyone had an opportunity to look those documents over? Any questions, concerns? If not, I will entertain a motion to approve the claims dated 21726. So moved. Emily Pearson. Second, Dennis Johnson. Motion in favor. Sorry. All in favor? [laughter] I opposed pay the bills. Thank you. Well, off my game tonight. Moving on to council committee reports. OTC. No report. Do we even need to have that on there anymore? No. No. Okay.

Uh EDC report. There is nothing to report, but we are going to keep that on there. Um storm management board. Storm water management board. Mr. P. Uh we have nothing new to bring to you. However, store tomorrow will have a meeting next t next Tuesday 11:00 in the morning to award the official contract of whom. I don't know who we seriously don't I don't need to be a well we've awarded to someone. [laughter] Is it Howard? Is it Howard? Howard? No. I know we second.

Well, either way, all the storm water will officially agree with what heat is going. [clears throat] So, we will be awarding it officially and hopefully it'll start construction here probably in the next month, six weeks or whatever weather we're agreeing to. All right. Thank you very much.

Moving on. Legal council report. Mr. Colton, the only item I had was to advise that I have engaged a outside appraiser to take a look at the proposed That's under new business. Oh, I'm sorry. You're good. Then I I'll wait until that time. So, Mr. Culp, I do have a question for you. You know, we're going to do a little bit of work at that um at our new property. Should we go ahead and do the the soil management plan for the fence, brush, and tree removal?

Should we just go ahead and create one? What does that take? Um, I would need to check with Mr. Gardner on that. I do think it's a good idea to have a plan. Um, anytime we're going to be digging deeper than a few inches out there, because of uh the past contamination of that site, we want to make sure we're adhering to that. Uh, most of that lot has 2 feet of clean top soil put on it. And so, as long as you're not digging below that, you don't run into an issue. But I I think it's better to air on the side of caution. and then whenever we have a project that would involve something more than that to reach out and talk to them. We have received a memo from Mr. Gardner with some more detail.

I saw I just think we would like Mr. Hunter and his team to get started on that. Um Okay. So, if we could quickly I don't know what it takes, but if we could quickly just put it together so that we're free. Maybe next meeting we can Yeah, I I'll reach out to ask Mr. Gardner. I'm sure he could put something together like that rather quickly for us. Okay. Or let you know how it needs to be and you put it together. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. That's all I had. Anything else, Mr. Colt? No, not at this time. All right. Thank you. Moving along. Sisro Jackson Township Plan Commissioner Report. Mr. Zodsky.

Good evening, council. I just have two updates from my last report. We do have a uh BCA meeting scheduled for the 19th. That's going to be a town hall. We do have items on the agenda and we will meet. And then the previously scheduled meeting for uh plan commission meeting for March 11th is going to be cancelled due to lack of business. We will not meet. That's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Strong. Do you have anything? No, sir. Thank you. Do you have anything under special projects? No, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. Town engineer report. Mr. Brian, good evening. Hello. Good evening.

Uh, I was going to jump a little bit on the agenda if I could and hit the come back to the wastewater. Uh, number two on the agenda is the 2024 community crossings match grant. That's West Jackson Street. Uh, we we we're going to we've scheduled we're going to do a walk through next week. Snow's almost gone. and uh do a punch list and get that closed out before the dead deadline of uh May 2nd. Uh we did send up on the 5th pay app number 10 was submitted. I don't know if we need to discuss that or is that in the payables or Ronda? Um I don't know. I would say so

it is for Midwest paving. So I think we approved that didn't we the last meeting? Yeah, we did. We did. We did approve it. Let me go back and check. I believe you did. Hold on one second. Midwest on here on for tonight. It is. Yeah, because I think I emailed it on the West Jackson Street. Yeah. 29,655. No, you saying pay application number 10 though, right? Correct. Yeah. It was emailed on February 5th, which would have been two days after the last council meeting. sell for 34,344,249.

No, $84,54128. If you're looking at emails, Eric, that was on the February 5thwest. Oh, for Midwest paving, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, that's primarily for electrical work, maintenance of traffic, and u the original change order to replace all the lights. So, it's basically electrical work and as in addition to the pipe ballards that were put in that were added. So, how much was it again? 84,54128.

84521 84548$ 8454128. Sorry about that. No, it's me. I have pay application 10 and it is Yeah, you find it. It is in there. Okay. So, it's already approved. We don't need to do any additional approval. [clears throat] Correct. Okay.

2025 CCMG closeout that was uh Catherine and Flanigan and Morris Landing Drive. Uh we did get that information over Rhonda has been submitted to INDOT. So, So, we're ahead of schedule on that one. Unless end needs something else, we should be in good shape on that. I did get a response back from Cassie. She said it was fine. Okay, good. Close it out. I sent her the other two documents on the front chat. You might turn your mic on. Yeah, I Yeah, I I saw that email. Okay, so yeah, everything's submitted at this point.

Okay, good. 2026 CCMG, that's East Jackson. Uh we did at the last council meeting, the the the council approved uh Joe to sign the documents as we reviewed that subject to review. I did email today because I figured out that hey, I forgot to email up the review letter in the bid tab. So, I sent that up. But the apparent low bidder after much uh discussion and evaluation, first of all, they they made a math error in their bid. They were about $4,000 and some change low just because they didn't add correctly. So, it's an obvious error. That bumped them to the number two bidder, but then the the number which made the number two bidder number one who forgot to include their drug policy, which is required by the bid documents and state statute. So then we wound up with the original one bidder was wound up getting a job. We had some issues with it when we were talking about maintenance of traffic, but they stepped up and confirmed that they're going to do everything per the contract documents. So

So who is it? Uh the low bidder was Howard Companies and for $326,270. So that's who we're awarding it to. Yes. Because ENB paying didn't

their bid has has to be rejected because it didn't comply with the bid documents or state statute. State statute is really clear that unless you submit your drug policy with the bid that you can cannot award a public bid to them. I have no idea why EMD would not submit that, but they did not. and uh Bruce covered Morris Landing Drive. So I think we're good there. Next week we'll get that awarded which backs us up to the wastewater uh the treatment plant Reynolds is here of course we'll have some discussion with them but uh project is progressing. We emailed out uh Saturday morning. I believe it was the contingency uh letter that they they had sent to us. You probably have that in front of you. And I thought I would cover a few things that we're aware of and then invite Scott and John up here and they could they could handle the rest of it hopefully and we'll we'll support as needed. But on that contingency letter, um the first couple items are blower H blower building HVAC and screen building HVAC. Initially in the in the design documents, we had brand new building there. Brand new HVAC systems just de demoing but during the value engineering that building got removed and we we then looked to rehab the existing building as best we can and make it work. Uh we did not have HVAC systems going in there. You know, in the last few years they've failed. So the screen building, we really need to put the new louvers and exhaust and the and also the electric heater in there otherwise our screenings will freeze, you know, in the cold weather like we had a couple weeks ago and that would damage the screen equipment. So it really needs to happen. uh the blower building.

You know, pardon me, we could get by without doing that with the exception with the with the exception that we now have VFDs in that building. So, long story short, we got VFDs from the screen control in that building and for the blower control. And if and the problem biggest problem there is cooling that building in the summer. Those blowers put off a lot of heat. And if we don't keep those VFDs cool, we could stress them and re reduce their life expectancy and they could even shut down, which could create problems. So, is a BFD variable frequency drive a BFD. Okay.

Yeah. So those that's the explanation for those two. They're really needed. We'd recommend we do it. The oxidation ditch coating is the rehab of the existing ditch. We've talked about that a little at the last few meetings that until you take the tank down, you don't know what you got. So when Reynolds did get it down, it was evaluated. We got a couple different quotes to do some systems to basically what concrete was beyond what we're saw cutting to put new bridges in or to raise the walls that need to have new control joints filled um expansion joints and any damage from cracks sealed before we put water back in it for hopefully the next 30 years like we had the last 30 years before we take it down again. We need to fix it otherwise we'll we'll have decreased longevity of that concrete structure. So, and again, you you don't know what you're getting into until you take the tank down. So, we really recommend that. Um, going over the rotor options on that same oxidation ditch. If you think about it, we've got two two uh airator surface airators. They're basically shafts and have stars on them. If you ever had a fish tank that basically had a a spinner at the top for aation, it's same concept. It's inducing oxygen into the tank, keeping the tank contents mixed and moving. And that's biologically how we treat and remove BOD and ammonia out of the oxidation ditch. So in the contract, but when this was under design, we had the lakes Lakesides the manufacturer. We had them come in and inspect it and basically give us recommendations on what we should do to rehab those rotors. And basically it was put new bearings on it, um, new drives, and we do have BFDs on those as well. And they thought everything was okay, but in their defense, again, that they had covers on them that hadn't been open in 20 years. You couldn't they couldn't see everything until you get it out and

get it cleaned. You can't see everything. So, it's prudent, we thought, and Reynolds thought when we pulled them to go ahead and take a look at them, we had Lakeside come in. So that started us down a chain of events of okay should we do more to these and there's really no way to know if there's any it's visual you're just looking at it. Um, so it's like we could go to the extreme and replace them, uh, which, you know, which is about $156,000 in in [clears throat] this estimate. And or we could take we could also take all the stars off that you have to disassemble the thing, have weld work done on site, send it out to a shop to have it inspected and reert repainted, brought back in, put the stars back on, and then install it. Uh, you could, if you go through that, that's option one, for $75,000. If you went through that, you might find that you you you have a problem. So, you could you could spend that $75,000 and then find out you still have to go order new ones and then then have to spend $156,000. Uh we we drilled into a little more and talked to Lakeside and their rep and you know they've got thousands of these across the country and he says yes occasionally they do fail. They're a little concerned about a certain joint or certain connect pin connector for the stars and yes they have had failure of those. U however it's it's very uncommon. So nobody can sit here today and say hey we put those on they're going to last another 20 years. They they could or they could last another year. We don't know. So then we started investigating what happens if they do fail. Does that create other damage? And really, if one of them fails, it's likely going to break and it's it's going to fall into the the ditch and we're going to have to fish it out and we're going to have to replace it. But he didn't think it would probably mess up the bearings. But as far as the drives, the belts, nothing

else would probably be damaged. So, long story short, uh, talking to Matt and to Terry, you know, if we had if we had an unlimited budget and we were starting from scratch, knowing today what we know and and Lakeside would have recommended it, we probably would have just replaced the airators. But sitting here today at this at this late stage in the game and if you look at the breakdown of this, a lot of the cost of these two items is because we're at the end of the project and it's going to cost time to extend the project. Um I have a we have a hard time recommending doing that and we think we're probably better off putting the putting the rotors back on the way they are and again they they could very well last 10 or 20 years. might consider buying a new rotor shaft and having it in stock because that way if one does break, we don't have to wait the estimated 12 weeks that Lakeside gave us to to be able to put it in. The other thing we got going for us is, you know, if if they broke before, and we did have bearing failure before, as I recall, we had one ditch and it severely impacted treatment. Now we have two ditches, and you know, we get we can limp by a little better. So, so as much as a conservative engineer would like to say we'd like to we'd like to go ahead and replace this in a perfect world, I I don't know that it's worth the delay in the and the and there's also risk. So, you know, anytime you touch these things, take them off site, have three different companies look at them and work on them, who knows what you're going to wind up with. So, in the end, I think we recommend that we put them back in because of all those reasons, but and you know, it would be nice to order another rotor shaft, which I think is about, if I remember, at $25,000.

Any question about those items? So the additionals for the blower building HVAC screen building HVAC um are those in that contingency number that contingency request for amount? Those are they're in the total contingency number too. Yes. So those are part of that 3487. No, they're they're in addition to the 348. What are those numbers? Those totaled are well I can tell you the individual. If you go to trying to see what page this is I think the third page of the Reynolds letter. Yeah.

At the top there you see where it says building HBAC. If you go down to that next paragraph so the one of them is 36,000 or $38,680. The screen building is 21,55 and then the item number three which is a ditch repair is 71,866. [clears throat] That's a grand total of $131,61.

So then the contingency. So we have 641 left. They're asking for 348. Mhm. Plus another 131. Correct. Going forward with those.

Or another way to look at it is they've they put in there $217,000 for adbacks. you'd be eating eating 131,000 of that six of that 217,000 to do those items depend just depends on how you want to look at it but it is an addition to the 348 and then I guess going to the list above. I mean, I'm I'm just curious like the the press delivery delays. Why does that cost the town money? We had nothing to do with that. That's not managing your supplier in my opinion.

Yeah, those those are questions I'm going to ask Reynolds to answer and present the 348,000. But I mean, they can they can only control their supplier so much. So, it depends on how the contracts work. If there's not work to do, do why do we still bring people to the site? So, I Yeah, please come up. Sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. Keith, you're Are you all good with your Oh, no. He might have to come back, but yeah, I mean, it's a question up here again.

I'm Scott Scott Huber with Reynolds. John Cornelius, our project manager. Uh, just in summary, we're about eight weeks from complete. We've been out there for about 18 months. Last time I met with you folks and presented the request for [clears throat] contingency was last summer. At that point, we had incurred additional costs for hydro excavation, spoils, etc. And uh we knew that we were going to be entering a a risky phase of the job. Uh we've got to this point and uh to my knowledge, it's the first time we've been back since last summer. uh the 340. We've done some scrubbing of our pay app and realized we do have some good news to report, which is we're eight weeks from complete and we're going to have about a $50,000 savings in project management. So, um we didn't we didn't incorporate that into the to the letter, but that 340 ask is going to come down to about 290 offset by that savings. The breakdown of that balance of 290 is $73,000 in granular material and spoils haul off.

That that makes sense to me. That's extra work. I Yeah, that makes sense. Uh about 111,000 is additional hydro excavation general conditions which is fixed cost for the additional 3 months of of time. about 120 is equipment of of which that will go down to 70 offset by the 50th. So it's about $70,000 of owned equipment. Uh just equipment on site even our our meter is not ticking right. So no that's that's equipment on site from when we thought we would be done until midappril. A lot of those are operating hours. It's not just sitting there getting built for it without it running. That's

Yeah, I didn't mean it like that. I I I was going back to the press delivery delay. So I didn't mean that you were just leaving it there billing us. Please don't take it like that. Okay. So 120,000 for it's actually 70 because it's offset by the 50,000. We're going to we're going to move 50,000 on project manage into the equipment to cover that that cost. That savings is offsetting the overrun in equipment by 50,000. So the 120 is going to reduce to 70. So, of the 300 again, 73,000 spoils, 111,000 hydro excavation general conditions, $70,000 for owned equipment, and $44,000 for rented equipment. That totals up to $290,000.

Okay. So the 641 that we have available right now about 300,000 of that's going to come out which is going to reduced to 340. The 130,000 for items 1 through three above leaves $210,000 of contingency. Sorry, I'm gonna write it down. So 641 minus the 300 300,000

and then 130,000. Okay. So you had Yeah, I'm with you. So the 130 is what is the three items up above that we talked about that he HVAC and the ditch lower screen and the ditch repair. Okay. So then we're down to 200k. 210 is what you said, right? Yeah. Remaining. All right. Thanks for going back and scrubbing the numbers. Any other unforeseen items? I mean, you're at the end, right?

We're eight weeks from done. We've got the majority of the risk behind us. The biggest risk item going forward is two RAZ valves beside the the Razwa station. It is it's the toughest. If if you you you're welcome and see what we've got to do, but we're we're excavating 16 ft below uh grade right adjacent to two existing clarifiers that have been there since 1990. And we're going three or four feet below them. And uh it's risky work. If we could avoid doing that and find a way would probably save another 30 30,000 plus. So you guys are looking at options or what or there are no options you have to

what do you think? We talked to we talked about it before. I mean now's the time to do it. It's going to be nothing but more expensive if they break or you have problems later. That's that's the problem. I mean it's now's the least expensive pro time to do it. And if you don't do it and they break, you you'll be doing it under emergency condition. Yeah. Okay.

Other than that, um you know, the we knew the ditch was a big risk. The digesttor, anytime you're you're excavating an an existing facility, what we don't know, what we don't know, and we're through that. We're eight weeks from done. New ditch is running well. The clarifier is running well. The the press is running well. So, my hope is you're going to have the opportunity to take a deductive change order, $200,000 in about two months. Well, we were hoping for more than that when we originally talked, but yeah, and there were some some areas, I understand. Okay. Any other questions?

I don't think I have any. I mean, why I I guess one I [clears throat] mean, why did you didn't talk about it, but the press delivery delays as a reason for for this? And that's just directly relating to the equipment sitting on site. The the the press was uh uh utilized to minimize sludge disposal costs. So, um that was a key delivery that until that thing was operational, we were building up sludge inventory. We couldn't take the existing ditch offline. We couldn't get the new ditch online. It It just And we had uh liquidated damages on that vendor just to hold them on, keep them on.

This came back to the town, didn't they? It came It was credited to the project. It was credited to the project. Correct. Okay. Now, this thing was built in was it Austria? It came from Austria. Uh and we were reluctant to we we had one option and that was to use swing. Yeah. And we we did the best we could to keep them engaged and honor their commitment. We made I appreciate that. No, I know you guys didn't. It's tough getting equipment. I um I guess I wasn't aware that the those funds came back to the essentially came back to the town to cover cover a portion of costs. Right.

Okay. All right. I think I'm okay. Okay. Thank you. I haven't been around the whole project. Why was that piece of equipment necessary? Like what caused that to be needed? The swing press is going to drastically reduce your sludge disposal costs. The solids that are produced out of that are so dry that your hauling costs are greatly related to the amount of water in your sludge. And the lower that weight, the lower your disposal fees. So that's So that was always part of the project. It was it was part of the project. Yeah, it was from the get-go. It was a ridiculous schedule from the vendor that couldn't find a way to work around and then then they were late. On top of that, they they definitely drove the whole critical path for the product.

We we made an order on that before we had a signed contract in order to get the submittals, get the pricing locked in, get the delivery, which was nearly a two-year delay, two-year lead time on the dog on thing. We got it cut to a year and a half. Assigned liquidated damages. So if they delivered late, they were assessed a penalty and still they didn't deliver on time. They just don't care. They're the only game in town. They've got the best product. That's part of the problem, too. They know it. Um and you the project was credited that that LD value. All right.

Thanks. Appreciate you guys coming and walking through that. Thank you. Thank you very much. Keith, do you have anything else? You guys don't feel like you have to stay either. You're welcome to to escape if you would like, but thank you again for coming. Thank you. All right, we have nothing under old business. Moving along to new business. Uh, legal contract. This is for Mr. Colt services. Yes. You're just looking for an approval tonight, correct? Yes. All right. So basically it's Mr. Culp. It's a 3% increase, correct? That we had already discussed prior.

Just need approval for you to sign this contract. I entertain a motion to allow me to sign Mr. Culp's contract. So moved. Emily Pearson. Second. Dennis Johnson. Motion a second. All in favor? Opposed. Thank you very much for your work, Mr. Colt. Thank you. I know we've been keeping you busy, so Thank you very much. Uh moving along to the salary ordinance amendment 02-17-026-01. [cough]

It uh I um my mistake the uh reserve police officer should be 599. I think it says 590 and I just happen to just glance at and catch it. I thought do another amendment. So uh so his reserve officers can be paid the correct amount. I'd appreciate you signing off on that. All right. Entertain [clears throat] a motion to approve salary ordinance amendment 02-17-2026-01. So move Dennis Johnson. Second Emily Pearson. Motion a second. All in favor? I oppose. Thank you.

Thank you. Uh electronic meetings policy resolution 02-17-2026-02. And this is just a policy that adopts the guidelines or the rules set out by the state code so that if a member is unable to be here physically, but they can attend remotely and participate in the meeting. It spells out the requirements, the number of times it's permitted in a year or in consecutive meetings. Um, and also there's some general statutory requirements like the member has to be uh seen and heard simultaneously by everyone who's sitting in this room, the council and the public in order to participate that way.

I'll I'll make a motion to approve policy resolution 02-17-2026-2. Second, Dennis Johnson. Motion a second. All in favor? Opposed? Go there. Moving along to consulting services via Integra realy resources. This is related to the best project.

Uh yes. Uh Mr. Cox had asked me to look into retaining an appraisal service to look at do our own market impact to see if there would be an adverse impact on local real estate values. And and Integra is a firm based out of Indianapolis. We've actually used them to do appraisals when we've sold property in the past and when we've purchased them. they have some prior experience dealing with uh projects of this type and so this would engage them so that we could get our own independent uh opinion on the impact on real estate. Again, this is all money that has been approved and funded by uh the petitioner for our due diligence. So, good find on that. Um Mr. Colt,

thank you. It's a it's interesting what they're going to compare to and how they're going to do it. So, I'll make a motion to approve that. Um, Integra, Integra is the consulting service for land appraisal. I'll second. Dennis Johnson. Motion, a second. All in favor? I opposed. Thank you. Moving along to real estate resolution 02-17-2026-3.

Uh, this is a resolution. the town is interested in purchasing some real estate and this is required prior to that process where we declare our interest and you authorize me to then go out and find two companies to perform appraisals that you can use in determining the value. I'll make that motion. I'll second that motion. Motion to second. All in favor? I opposed. Thank you very much. Moving along to the lights over Morris Lake dock use agreement. This is an agreement we sign with them annually to allows them to use our land essentially to set up their check-in booth for poker run poker run.

August 1st is the primary and then rain dates August second. Yep. So, I just need a I'll make a motion to allow president president Cox to sign um the letter for use of public docks by lights of a Morris Lake for their event on August 1st. August second. I'll second that. Motion to second. All in favor? Opposed? Abstain. Good to go. Okay. So, only four voting there. All right. Moving along to miscellaneous which we have nothing comments by citizens. Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? [laughter]

Mr. Green. One last time. [laughter] Just so everybody is aware is aware, we are losing a a longtime and valued member of this community. [cough and clears throat] One of the stall warts for these council meetings. Uh Mr. Green will be leaving town. Hi. Hi, Gary Green. 250 Willow Lane, Linton, Indiana. [laughter] How about that? Um, I made the comment about water.

Um, in cleaning the drawers out, I found this brochure from the very first annual Cicero, Indiana riata. I don't know if any of you were around in 1982. It was August the 1st. I'd like to give this to you, Joe. I don't know what where else to I'm actually really That's pretty cool. Curious about this. Thank you very much. I didn't I just didn't want to throw it in the trash, but there's a lot of names from a way back in there. Probably give it to Ron. Yeah. Um anyway, I'm going to miss this town. Um come back and see us though, right?

Well, I'm going to say it this way. Uh Susan is watching right now on YouTube down in Lenton and um if I'm watching and I see some things not going right, I'll be back the next minute. [laughter] Look forward to it. Sure we have the two minute timer on. Thank you. [laughter] It's up now. Um thank you guys. And I I think I shared this with you, but treat the town right. That's all I ask. We're doing our best. Treat the town and the county. Mhm. Um, it's been fun most of the time. Ah, well, you're from out there. I I can see where it's fun.

I was told that last meeting that I needed to smile. I guess someone did a screenshot and I was frowning pretty heavy. Uh, not not the video I watched. Oh, I was I had the P. It was like, woo. Um, but thank you all. Frank, Jeff, Terry, and Jim. I mean, I have memories back of Jim when he was a patrolman. I won't share now, but it was it was it was fun. But thank you all. Thank you for your contributions to the town as well because you not only sit out there and keep us straight, but you you bring items to the town such as the flag at the Fourth of July.

I had a lot of Thank you for all you've done. You're welcome. I had a lot of text messages when I had the one Facebook page that, you know, tell them this, tell them that. I said, "Come and do it yourself." Thank you, neighbor. You will be missed. Garrett will miss you. [applause] Thank you very much. Any other comments by citizens? If not, I will entertain a motion. So moved. Second. [laughter] Motion a second. All in favor? I opposed. Thank you. Private numbers severe.