City Council - workshop

Commissioner Hawkins? Here. And Commissioner Loring? Here. We have a quorum.

Thank you so much. Council, our actions on the PHAC meeting tonight is consent agenda. How would you like to proceed, commissioners? Vice-commissioner.

I move to approve the meeting minutes of the Public Housing Authority Commission, approval of the Public Housing Authority Commission regular meeting minutes of June 22nd, 2026. Addams 1 and 2. Second.

We have a motion. We have a second by Commissioner Ellis. No recusals. Please poll the commission.

Vice Chair Encinas?

Yes.

Commissioner Poston? Yes. Commissioner Ellis? Yes. Commissioner Orlando? Yes. Commissioner Hawkins? Yes. Commissioner Loring?

Yes.

And Chair Harkey?

Yes.

Motion carries unanimously.

A little bit out of order, but did we have any unscheduled public appearances for the PHEC meeting?

We did not receive any.

All right. With that, that concludes the business of the Public Housing Authority Commission regular meeting. Next on our agenda is the regular meeting of the Chandler City Council. I would like to call this meeting to order. Clerk, please take the roll.

Mayor Harkey.

Here.

Vice Mayor Encinas.

Here.

Council Member Poston. Here. Council Member Ellis. Here. Council Member Orlando.

Here.

Council Member Hawkins, or Harris is absent excused. And Council Member Hawkins. Here. We have a quorum.

Thank you. Our invocation tonight will be delivered by Pastor Steve Voss of First Baptist Church and our Pledge of Allegiance by Councilmember Poston.

Pastor.

Thank you for the invitation. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we invite you here tonight to be among us because you, O Lord, are the Father of light. Your light shines in the darkness and exposes that which we need to see. We come before you today with grateful hearts, thankful for the freedoms we enjoy, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Freedoms bought with sacrifice, preserved through vigilance, and sustained by your grace. We thank you for the privilege to gather openly, to speak freely, and to work together for the good of our community and our country. Lord, we ask for your wisdom to guide every decision made in these chambers. Protect us from the snares of duplicity, the shadows of fraud, the poison of corruption. Let truth be our compass, integrity our freedom, and justice our aim. May every word spoken and every action taken here be rooted in honesty, transparency, and a sincere desire to serve the people of Chandler. We pray for courage, courage to do what is right even when it's difficult, courage to stand for what is just even when it is unpopular, and courage to reject any path that leads away from righteousness. Heavenly Father, place your hedge of protection around Chandler, around this community, around our leaders, around our nation. Guard us from those who would seek to divide or deceive. Strengthen the bonds of unity among us so that together we may build a future marked by fairness, compassion, and hope. We entrust this meeting, our county, and our country into your hands. May your truth prevail, your justice reign, and your blessings continue to rest upon us. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. Thank you.

Please face the flag and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Councilmember. Next on our agenda is scheduled public appearances. I would like to invite Councilmember Orlando to join me up front. Tonight, we have several service recognitions as in a variety of our departments, people who have done tremendous things as well as retirement recognition to someone well beloved by the city. Starting with that, let me turn this over to city manager, John Pombier.

Mayor, council, first I would like to ask our community services director, John Sefton, to come on down. And while John's coming down, I would invite Allison Bullock to join him for her 10 years with the city of Chandler.

Good evening, Mayor, council, city leadership. It's an honor to recognize Alison Bullock for celebrating her ten years of service. And throughout that decade, she has been one of the steady, dependable forces that keep our library team strong. From her early days as a specialist to her promotion to librarian, Ali has brought invaluable institutional knowledge and a willingness to step in wherever she is needed. Her support during the Hamilton Library renovation was nothing short of critical. and she continues to be a trusted mentor for her colleagues. She also helps our community connect in meaningful ways through her fiction and romance book clubs, spaces that she has made welcoming, engaging, and full of energy. I can only imagine. Those groups don't just discuss books, they build relationships. Whether she's supporting coworkers or providing outstanding service to patrons and students, Allie consistently goes above and beyond. Her kindness, flexibility, dedication make her a lasting impact on our team and the community that we serve. Allie, we're grateful for your decade of service, and we think it's safe to say that you're helping write some pretty great chapters in Chandler's library story.

John, stay there.

I'm staying.

Patti Kairos joined the Chandler Library on August 19th, 1996, beginning as a page and quickly providing herself as indispensable, proving herself as indispensable. She later, easy for me to say, she later supported technical services, ensuring new and well-loved books were ready for our community. And in 2010, she became a cornerstone of the Sunset Library Circulation Team. Patty is known for exceptional customer service and her genuine care for everyone who walks through our doors, from helping patrons find materials and navigate technology to processing holds, training volunteers, and keeping a branch running smoothly behind the scenes. Patty brings dedication, kindness, and smile to everything that she does. Her Spanish fluency has been invaluable in connecting us with even more of our community. With her deep experience, welcoming spirit, and unwavering willingness to help, Patty embodies the heart of Chandler's library system and truly represents what we want every resident to feel when they visit the Chandler Libraries, that they belong. Now, just for fun, and Sandeep didn't beat me to doing this, Patty, do you remember what was on the top of the charts when you started at the library? You ready? It was the Macarena. Now it won't turn off. But Patty, thank you for 30 years.

Sorry. I'm a dad.

Next up, I'll ask our Public Works and Utilities Director, Jeremy Abbott, to come on down. And I'll request that Tracy Conaway come down to be recognized for 20 years of service.

So Tracy Conway is the face of our recycling community. She leads Chandler's recycling efforts, and her involvement directly impacts our sustainable and cost-effective solid waste and recycling programs. We're proud to have Tracy represent our department and the city at many local events and committees. You'll often see Tracy at community events such as the Innovation Fair, Woodstock, Chandler Civic Program, Earth Arbor Day celebrations, and many, many more. Tracy also leads Chandler's annual environmental art contest for fourth grade students. She participates on the MAG Solid Waste Committee and is currently chair on the Circular Arizona Board. In addition, Tracy administers related contracts, manages many educational efforts, the data analysts, the research, and you're always willing to lend a helping hand. Tracy's knowledge, engagement, experience, and outgoing personality plays a vital role in our community and our organization's recycle programs. So Tracy, we sincerely thank you for 20 years of service to the citizens of Chandler, to the Public Works and Utilities Department, and Team Chandler. Thank you.

Next up, I'll ask that Tim Wakefield come on down to recognize for 30 years of service with the City of Chandler.

So Tim joined Team Chandler and the Public Works and Utilities Department in August of 1996. building a distinguished career across the street division's concrete, alley and right-of-way, and paving and contracting groups. In 2007, Tim was promoted to crew leader and the right-of-way and alley team. Recently, in 2025, Tim advanced again to the position of maintenance project senior specialist, where he coordinates major street maintenance projects such as crack, crack sealing, slurry sealing, and mill and overlay, all across the city. Tim has enjoyed the many projects that the street division has been involved with over the years, especially the alley rehab program, where he played a key role in prioritizing, routing, and mapping these areas as the program progressed. Tim enjoyed the small town feeling of Chandler immediately and appreciates it still today. Tim, on behalf of the entire Public Works and Utilities Department and the City of Chandler, thank you for 30 years of outstanding public service. We appreciate your dedication, professionalism, and amazing attitude.

Next, I'd ask our economic development director, Micah Miranda, to stand as we recognize a fifth floor staple, a legend in her own time, the retirement of Odette Moore.

Mayor. Councilmember, City Manager, thank you for providing us this opportunity to acknowledge somebody that is near and dear to all of our hearts. I'm now going to take a little bit of flack from my team as I don't allow them to read from script, but I didn't think I was going to be able to get through this without a script. Sorry, guys. Tonight we are celebrating a true milestone, Odette Moore's retirement after 26 years of service to the City of Chandler. Odette's story began in the development services department where she started as a customer service representative, then moving on to the role as permit representative. She was often the very first face developers and businesses saw when they walked through the doors, always greeted by her warm smile. In 2010, that same smile began warming the hearts of the economic development Beyond her daily work of data research and analysis, report generation, and project support, Odette leaves a lasting legacy through her role with the Chandler Innovation Fair. For years, she led the initiative to provide Chandler's young people an opportunity to explore curiosity, chase big dreams, and discover careers available in science and discovery right here in Chandler. That impact has come full circle. Kids who once visited the Innovation Fair are now returning as adults, representing their companies as exhibitors and sharing the wonder with the next generation. Odette just didn't organize a science fair. She helped shape innovators and professionals who are now giving back to the community that gave them so much. Yet beyond this and even of greater value, Odette brought something else to the economic development team, an organization that's hard to quantify, easy to recognize, and impossible to replicate. a calm and steady presence, grace, and that same warm smile. She was and is a source of consistency, composure, and compassion that everyone around her could count on, the kind of steadiness that doesn't always draw attention, sorry, but holds a team together and made Odette someone people trusted and leaned on. On behalf of the entire Chandler team and from the bottom of my heart, thank you, Odette.

Before we take a photo, if you are part of Odette's family, would you like to stand?

It's been wonderful, the 26 years working with so many people over the years, even though our, as I started as a receptionist back with Kevin Mayo when he was an intern, we had, like my kids came and did, take your kids to work day at the job. There's so many fond memories here at the city. And my family has been my support throughout it. They have volunteered of everything that I've done. And my friends have too, my godson. It's just been intertwined, my family life and life here at the city. And although I'm excited for my, Next chapter, it's like a bittersweet because I'm leaving some family behind and starting whatever God has planned for me. So it's something that I'm looking forward to and I'm excited about. And yeah, it's been great. Thank you. Thank you.

And next is a proclamation for Drowning Impact Awareness. We want to get the bearded John Sefton down here again, as well as with other aquatic team members who could join us. Noah Ducker, Jeff West, anybody else? All right, let me read this proclamation. Then we can figure out who wants to say some words. We'll let John point the bony finger at somebody, so. Whereas water safety education and drowning prevention are at the heart of the Water You Doing campaign, a citywide initiative dedicated to keeping community members safe in and around water. And whereas drowning prevention begins with the ABCDs of water safety, adult supervision when children are near water, barriers such as pool fences and locked doors are in place. Classes, including swim lessons and CPR training that teach life-saving skills and devices, such as Coast Guard-approved life jackets for non-swimmers. And whereas drowning hazards exist in as little as two inches of water, including household buckets, bathtubs and toilets, as well as rivers, lakes, and backyard swimming pools, and whereas the risk of drowning extends beyond the summer months, especially during the busy back-to-school months, reminding us that water safety requires year-round attention and awareness, and whereas recognizing the devastating impact of drowning on family and the community reinforces the urgent need for continued education, prevention efforts, and access to water safety resources. Now, therefore, I, Kevin Hartke, Mayor of the City of Chandler, do hereby proclaim the month of August 2026 as Drowning Impact Awareness Month. Thank you. Who would like to share some words?

All right, when it comes to being safe around the pool, it really comes back to education and proactive safety measures. So here in Chandler, we're very fortunate with the Water You Doing campaign. It's a partnership between police, fire, and aquatics, and we're able to get that water safety education out to the community as much as possible. Really at its core is the ABCDs of water safety, and that helped us develop our Swim Safe 48 program this past summer. So this program was launched at all of our pools, and what it is is kids that are under 48 inches receive a wristband, They're required to have adult supervision at all times, and they have to swim in designated areas of the pool. So we implemented this, and we really needed the community to step up, and you guys definitely did. And with your cooperation, we were able to reduce rescues this summer by 83%. So we went from... Thank you. Thank you. We went from 121 rescues last year to only 21 this summer. So thank you, everyone, for making this the best summer we've ever had, and we hope to see you guys out at the pools. Thanks.

Probably the middle is right in front of the flags here. You want us to do two side layers?

All right. Thank you again. Yeah, thank you.

All right, that concludes our upfront side of the public announcements. Is Crystal Bublik over here? Crystal? All right. Is Crystal Bublik over here? All right. I guess not. All right. Next on our agenda is the consent agenda for the regular public meeting tonight. Counsel, how would you like to proceed? Please have that. Councilmember Poston.

Mayor, I'd like to move to approve the consent agenda of the August 10th, 2026 regular meeting, items one and two.

We have a motion. Is there a second? Second. Second by Vice Mayor. Any recusals? Questions? No. Council, please vote.

And carries unanimously.

All right. Thank you. That concludes our regular council meeting. Welcome to the study session of August 10th, 2026. I would like to call this meeting to order. Do we need to, I don't see roll call on here. Let's go do that. Yes.

Mayor Harkey.

Here.

Vice Mayor Encinas.

Here.

Council Member Poston. Here. Council Member Ellis. Here. Council Member Orlando. Here. Council Member Harris is absent excused. And Council Member Hawkins. Here. We have a quorum.

And to our audience, it might seem like I have a fixation of gaveling. In fact, these are sliced and diced separately and show up in different ways as separate meetings. So we have a few items called in. First is item number three and four, the Kyrene Branch and Highline Canal Paths. If we could have a briefing by Councilmember Orlando. Jason. I think Jason will do the briefing.

I mean, if you want to do it.

That's OK. Let's see. One second.

Let me pull up the point. The reason why I called this is because it was an exciting project here. Everyone should know. All right.

So would you just like to make a comment and not a presentation?

All right. Well, thank you for your time this evening, Mayor and Council. So yeah, this is a great project. And it's actually related to three agenda items, one for a construction contract, another for post-design services, and another for construction management. The Kyrene Branch and Highline Canal project is included in the Transportation Master Plan. There are two separate canals that are unimproved in the western part of the city, the Kyrene Branch over by Kyrene Road and the Highline over by 56th. So each of these paths is improved in the city of Tempe, but the improvements stop once you reach the Chandler-Tempe border. So this project will simply complete the improvements and make a critical connection to the regional trail system. The Kyrene Branch shared use path is about a mile in length. Additionally, it will install a traffic signal to help trail users get across Kyrene Road. I want to note that this traffic signal is in the city of Tempe, which will be owned and operated by the city of Tempe. The Highline Canal is about a quarter mile and it spans from the city of Tempe to the Chandler border to Orchid Lane. Additionally, we will install bike lanes on Orchid Lane and green pavement markings. I do want to note that both projects do have trail amenities for users, such as lighting, benches, trash receptacles, wayfinding signage, et cetera. So looking at where we've been and where we're going, the project efforts began back in 2022 with a design assistant study. Design took place between 2023 and 2025, during which we acquired right of way and clearances to allow us to build the project. Looking forward, construction will start later this year, should wrap up by the end of 2027 or early into 2028, if not. I want to make note that we did have several public meetings and several other outreach opportunities for the public and stakeholder meetings as well. Over this period, we did receive quite a few comments from the public. And as a result, we made several changes to the project to address these comments, such as we removed a proposed traffic signal on Ray Road at the Kyrene Branch crossing, We added several signs of private property notices, changed the lighting to match a local community better. We added gates along the Kyron Branch Canal to prevent vehicular access. And those are just a few of the changes that we made. Finally, I'd like to note that this project is grant funded. We've received over $5 million of grants to date. The grants will pay for about 94% of the project. We have a 5.7% local match, which will be split proportionally with the city of Tempe as they will be paying the local match for improvements made in the city of Tempe.

So thank you for your time. And with that, I will answer your questions. Council Member Orlando. Thank you, Mary. Yeah, Jason, the reason, you know, again, this has been a few, a lot of stakeholder meetings. This is a good example of how we work with the neighborhoods, another city, SRP, obviously, to put this project together. So again, it's just one of the things we do well in Chandler that we listen to the neighbors and we move accordingly. So great work. Thank you. Appreciate that.

Additional questions, comments? Thank you, Jason. Thank you very much. Items number 10 and 11 and 12, also a request by Councilmember Orlando, I believe. And is there a briefing for this? Who's giving that? All right. Mr. Museum.

All right. Thank you, Mayor and Council, for giving me an opportunity to talk to you about Tumbleweed Ranch phase one and two construction that is on the agenda. To give you a background of where this comes from, back in 2004, a master plan was completed by Guero Gilmore, with the project goals being to explore and interpret the city of Chandler's history of agricultural and innovation, as well as providing educational and recreational space for Chandler residents out at Tumbleweed Park. The main phases, phase one is shown on this map as area A, and phase two is the green area B. And the red line shows the total project area that will be improved during this timeframe where there'll be grading and trees planted as well to improve the ranch. The phase one is Red Shed Theater, which will include desert planting and interpretive pathway to talk about farm equipment for desert farming, as well as a relocation of the historic Red Shed Theater, including the 200 seat amphitheater. This amphitheater will be used not only for special events, but also for our field trip program that goes on out at the ranch. It will feature cement seating and capacity for 200 people, as well as audio equipment that allows the production of shows and music during events. You can see the Red Shed Theater as the background of this stage area, and it also will be an interpretive space for the field trip program. The other area, phase two of the construction project will improve the farmhouse areas. There's two historic farmhouses out there. the McCroskey House and the Edwards House. Those exist currently. This project will improve the area surrounding those houses, including especially the boardwalk that you see at the top of that drawing there. That will provide grade level entrance for folks into these historic structures. Up to this point, there were steps up to the building, which prevented people with mobility issues from entering into the buildings. So this will change that, as well as the sensory guarding and the farmhouse event area. That's a small area for smaller type events, as well as family gatherings and whatnot. There will also be the grape arbor that you see at the bottom, which will be an interpretive path that will allow additional farm equipment to be interpreted about the history and innovation as that farm equipment developed. And finally, over to the right, you'll see a garage. This will be a new structure built for the interpretation of Dr. Chandler's vehicle that we have in our collection. The first time it will be able to permanently be on display in the area. Here's some images of those, that same area. This is that boardwalk area looking towards the McCroskey House. You can see the sensory garden off to the right there, as well as the great barber behind the Edwards House that runs to the McCroskey House. This area will also provide east-west access to the ranch and improve flow through the ranch. And with that, I'll answer any questions you have.

Council Member Landau. Thank you, Joe. I know there's been a passion in yours and Tim Hoyer's for a while and it's finally come to fruition and It's a great project. I like the shade structures. I like the pathways. And of course, the improvements, all of the fact, the display areas, I think is important as well. So looking forward to phase three and let's get this one done first, okay? Great job on this one as well. And I like the educational component with this. It's really, the amphitheater really drives home a lot as well, so.

To the mayor, Council Member Orlando, thank you very much. We're excited about the educational opportunities and these improvements. It really improves that. front portion of the ranch for everybody to use.

The only other question I had for you is, are we looking at a community garden here as well? I know we've had a few inquiries on that just recently, in fact, about supporting community garden. And I wonder if there's some thoughts process on that one.

There currently isn't any plan for community gardens. There is the demonstration fields to the eastern side, and that's where the FFA kids do gardening like that as well, but there isn't currently a plan for community gardens.

All right. That might be something we might consider. Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor.

I know we do have the guts of a garden that has not been too successful in our downtown area. Perhaps that was that's already set up that might be worthy of your inquiry to see whether that can get off the ground. Sure. Jody, I'm asking for a friend. What kind of grapes?

They're Arizona-type grapes. So they're actually more foliage than they are fruit. All right.

No wine, Mayor.

Additional questions? All right. Thank you, Joni. Thank you. Next is item number 26, City of Chandler Emergency Operations Plan, a question by Councilmember Hawkins. I don't see whether you want a presentation or a question.

Thank you, Mayor. I was looking for a presentation, mostly. I feel like just given the things that we've seen across the nation lately, just some of those historic disasters that have occurred, I thought it would be prudent for us to be able to provide kind of what our strategy looks like, how we came to those conclusions, and just kind of hear from you.

You bet. Well, good evening, Mayor, members of council. First, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Erica Houston. The easy way to remember it is, Houston, we have a problem. And so hopefully it's something that's never applicable here in Chandler. But just in case we've got that locked in, I am your emergency manager. I work under the amazing fire department. And so in answer to your question, we have recently, we've done a comprehensive review of our emergency operations plan. It has been thoroughly updated. It's a plan that is typically updated every five years, which last one was done back in 2022. So we were right about the perfect time. The changes to this one, this one is solutions based. So we're looking at the outcomes. How can we quickly restore Chandler, get our residents, our city back to normal as soon and effectively as possible? So that's what this plan focuses on. We have worked with all city departments We worked with any of the partner agencies that need to be identified within the plan. They also will be receiving a copy of the plan. And we will continue to, this isn't a plan that will just sit on a shelf. We'll continue to train, exercise, make sure that we have the capabilities that we need to effectively do what we already do great.

Council Member Hawkins.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I have all the confidence in the world, but it's always great to have, if something were like that to happen here in Chandler, that we have a plan and we have a strategy moving forward. So I just wanted to assure our residents and just make sure that it's known that we have the confidence and the whereabouts to make sure that we take care of anything that comes our way.

Fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Any additional questions?

Mayor, quickly. We're talking about disaster plan. That's a little bit of my background. So I just wanted to find out when it comes to medical and things like that, are we attached with DHS and all these other departments here when it comes to the state level so that if there's a disaster, the disaster relief and how do we bring in other cities and also not only cities, but states also within Chandler to help to alleviate some of that?

Mayor, Councilmember Ellis, that's a great question. We not only identify that in the plan, a little bit about my background, so I came from the state before I came here, so not only do I have those personal connections, I can pick up the phone, make sure it gets answered, but all disasters, they start and end at the local level. So we make sure that we have the ability to do what we do here first. Should we exceed our capability, need that extra help, we're going to go to the county, go to the state, go to the federal. We have mutual aid agreements in place, including interstate agreements through national agreements that we have. So we scale it up as needed and bring it back down to where it would start and end. but we do have the proper training, the right people in place, and I personally know a lot of them, so...

Yeah, because I remember when COVID happened, we were all scrambling, that's for sure. But at this point, having you on board and knowing that right now we have already learned from what happened and what we can do in the future. So I really appreciate this plan. And I saw the chief in earlier. He's right over there. And I was in communication with him pretty much on a daily basis when we were dealing with COVID and dealing with the state and also Maricopa County. So thank you for everything that you do appreciate.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Alright, items number 40, 41, 42, 43, 44. Council Member Orlando has questions or presentations?

No, again, Mayor, as you know, as well as I do, we just had a presentation on water rates, and it's important, I think, every time we get a chance to speak with the public of where that money is going to us. And I think these are just four projects that amplify or at least exemplify what we're doing to make our assured water supply in a robust system. And I want you to give a couple of minutes just to go over what we're doing here.

Proceed, Jeremy. All right. Thank you.

So items 40, 41, 42 are all related items specific to our aquifer storage and recovery wells. And this well specifically is one of 10 within the Tumbleweed Park area. It has since failed. And these three items cover the design, the construction, oversight, and the drilling of the replacement for ASR number eight. We are actually, again, to keep costs down, we're re-drilling the new well in proximity to the existing electrical equipment, so that electrical equipment, still in good condition, can be reused for this new well location. Item 43 is focused on the rehab of one of our existing lift stations. On our wastewater collection side, we have eight lift stations citywide. This is one of those eight. And we, again, need to ensure that it's in good working condition. So we'll take it out of service. We'll do an inspection on the wet well. The wet well is the concrete structure that's below ground. And there are special coatings on those wet wells to protect the concrete from degrading over time. So that's part of the rehab and the inspection that will take place as we design that upgrade in the future. And then item 44, last but not least, this is an investment on one of many remote water facilities that we have throughout the city of Chandler. This one specifically is our Basha water production facility, which lives just within Senegar Park and serves at that area. This location is comprised of a 2 million gallon steel water reservoir, pumps and motors and a lot of electrical gear. Part of that too, we also have two wells that are offsite of that location that feed and fill that reservoir to again meet the demands of our customers. So we inspect and we strategically take these offline when demands are low to make sure that they are continuing to be operational in the future. Some of the rehab will include replacement of the pumps, the booster pumps and the motors, as well as some of the electrical gear. And then when we do take the reservoir offline, we'll clean it, we'll inspect the coating, we'll inspect the steel as well and make sure it's all in good working order before we recode it or repair it, put it back in service. So that's, I know I covered, you know, many of our items, but in a nutshell, those are the primary focuses of these five contracts.

Council Member Orlando. Yeah, again, I appreciate Jeremy. Again, it's a lot of work that goes behind the scene as well as the residents need to understand. And anytime they want a well tour, let us know. We'll be happy to take you out and see more of the wells, right? Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Additional questions or comments for Jeremy? No.

Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. Council, that concludes all the items called in. We will be voting on these items on Thursday. As I mentioned, that concludes our meeting as well.