City Council - Regular Meeting

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They come. Is Anthony not gonna be here today? Okay. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Okay. Okay. Good evening everyone. Thank you for being here. And we're going to go ahead and start with our community facilities district boards. And it looks like um Brenda, will you be taking these on here or Okay. So, we'll go ahead and start with um Copper Mountain Ridge. Okay. Turn it over to you

on the agenda. Turn your mic. It is. Is that not close enough? Okay. Oh, the roll call. Okay. So, um, if we can please accept for the record that all members except Anthony Edwards, um, are here. So, noted. Thank you, Adriana. And we'll start with item number C1, the minutes. Right. Yep. Mayor Fitzgiven, I move to approve the minutes of the Copper Mountain Ranch Community Facilities District for the board meeting of June 16, 2025. Second. Okay. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I.

I. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. Next item is new business, item D1. Madame Chair, members of the board, um the item before you tonight is to consider the approval of a resolution adopting the tenative budget and establishing the spending plan for fiscal year 2027 in the amount of 20,6,000 for the Copper Mountain Ranch Community Facilities District. The district budget is specifically designed to pay existing debt service, expenditure of the district, and program reserves. Included as part of the budget is a proposed property tax rate of 30 cents per hundred of net assessed value. This tax includes an operational component of the um30. There is no outstanding debt at this time. The $20 million is budgeted in in the um I just lost the word I was looking for. In case the district should desire to issue debt within the next fiscal year, we budget for that budget capacity. At this time there that that is not planned. Um with the limited actual expenditures, the budget authority um the develop if there is a shortfall in the actual collection the developer is responsible for reimbursement of those district costs. Um the attached budget forms will become the expenditure limitation for the district if if it is approved tonight. The required forms will be published in the local newspaper. The board will be asked to hold a public hearing a on the

budget and the tax levy on June 1st. Um the board will be asked to adopt the budget on June 1st after the public hearing and establish the tax rate and levy on June 15th. And with that, I'll answer any questions you might have. Okay. Are there any questions, comments? Okay, Adriana, if we can get a resolution number, please.

Resolution number 105, a resolution of the board of directors of the Copper Mountain Ranch Community Facilities District, Casag Grand, Arizona, adopting the tentative estimates of the amount required for the public expense for the Copper Mountain Ranch Community Facilities District for the fiscal year 2026 2027. Adopting a tentative budget setting forth the receipts and expenditures, the amounts actually levied and the amounts estimated as collectible for the previous fiscal year and the amount proposed to be raised by direct property taxation for the various purposes and giving notice of the time for hearing taxpayers for adopting a budget and fixing the tax levies.

Mayor Fitzgiven, I move to approve resolution number 105 as presented. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Member Rebecca Robo, yes. Member Shawn Dugan, yes. Member and member Bob Hules, yes. Member Matt Herman, yes. Vice Chair Brent McLillan, yes. Chairman, Lisa Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you, Adriana. Okay, so that's it with the um Copper Mountain Ranch. We'll go ahead and close that meeting. And now we'll go ahead and call to order the Mission Royale Community Facilities District. Um if you can please accept for the record. Everyone except member um Anthony Edwards are present. So noted. Okay. Next item are the minutes. Chairman Fitzgiven, I move we consider the minutes for the Mission Royale Community Facilities District Board dated June 16, 2025. Second. Okay. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I.

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I. Any opposed? Okay. Motion carries. Next is item D1. Madame Chair, members of the board, the item before you tonight is to consider the approval of the resolution adopting the tenative budget and establishing the spending plan for fiscal year 2027 in the amount of 1,572,66 for the Mission Royale Community Facilities District. The district is designed to pay for existing debt service, expenditures of the district, and fund reserves. Included as part of the budget is a property tax rate of 1.0488 per $100 of net assessed value. This includes an operational component of30 and a general obligation debt service component of 7488. If adopted, this tenative budget will become the fisc year 2027 expenditure limitation for the district. The required forms will be published in the local paper. The board will be asked to hold a public hearing on the budget and the tax levy on June 1st. The board will be asked to adopt the FY27 final budget on June 1st after the public hearing and to establish the tax rate and levy on June 15, 2026. With that, I'll take any questions.

Any questions, comments? Okay, Adrianne, if we can get a resolution number, please. Resolution number 83, a resolution of board of directors of the Mission Royale Community Facilities District, Cassagran, Arizona, adopting the tentative estimates of the amount required for the public expense for the Mission Royale Community Facilities District for the fiscal year 2026 to 2027. adopting a tentative budget setting forth the receipts and expenditures, the amounts actually levied and the amounts estimated as collectible for the previous fiscal year and the amount proposed to be raised by direct property taxation for the various purposes and giving notice of the time for the hearing taxpayers for adopting of budget and for fixing the tax levies.

Chair Gibbons, I move for approval of resolution number 83 as presented. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Member Rebecca Vormo, yes. Member Shawn Dugan, yes. Member Bob Hules, yes. Member Matt Herman, yes. Vice Chair Brent Bedillan, yes. Chairman Lisa Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. Okay, with that, we'll go ahead and adjourn the um Mission Royale and we will call to order. Sorry. The um post ranch um community facilities district board meeting. If you can please accept for the record that all members except Anthony Edwards are here. So noted. Okay. Thank you. And first item are the minutes. C1. Chairman Fitz Given. I move to accept the minutes of the Post Ranch Community Facilities District Board meeting of June 16, 2025. Second. Okay. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion of the minutes? So, all those in favor, please signify by saying I.

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I. Any opposed? Okay. Motion carries. Next item is new business item D1. Madame Chair, members of the board, the item before you tonight is to consider the approval of a resolution adopting the tenative budget and ex establishing the expenditure limitation for fiscal year 2027 in the amount of 20 million $1,700 for the post ranch community facilities district. The district's budget is specifically designed to provide budget authority for future debt service payments, expenditures of the district, and fund reserves. Included in this budget is a continuation of the existing 30 property tax rate per $100 of net assessed value. The tax rate represents an operational component. There is no debt outstanding for this district at this time. The proposed operational rate may not cover district expenses and any operational shortfalls are reimbursed by the developer. The um fiscical year 2027 adopted budget or tenative budget if adopted will become the 2027 expenditure limitation for the district. The forms will be published in a local paper. The board will be asked to hold a public hearing on the budget and tax levy on June 1st. The board will be asked to adopt the FY2027 final budget on June 1st after the public hearing and to establish the tax rate levy on June 15th. And with that, I'll take any questions.

Any questions, comments? Okay, if we can get a resolution number, please. Resolution number 62, a resolution of the board of directors of the Post Ranch Community Facilities District, Cassagran, Arizona, adopting the tentative estimates of the amount required for the public expense for the Post Ranch Community Facilities District for the fiscal year 2026 to 2027, adopting a tentative budget setting forth the receipts and expenditures, the amounts actually levied, and the amounts estimated as collectible for the previous fiscal year, and the amount proposed to be raised by direct property taxation for for the various purposes and giving notice of the time for hearing taxpayers for adopting a budget and for fixing the tax levies.

Mayor Fitzgiven, I move we approve resolution number 62 as presented. Second. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Member Rebecca Romo. Yes. Member Shawn Dugan. Yes. Member Ball Herson. Yes. Member Matt Herman, yes. Vice Chair Brent Medylan, yes. Chairman Lisa Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. Okay, we'll go ahead and adjourn the um Post Ranch Community Facilities District Board. And I will go ahead and call to order the Bago Community Facilities District Board meeting. Um if you can please accept for the record that all members are present except Anthony Edwards. So noted. Thank you. And next item are the minutes. Chairman Fitzgiven, I move we accept the minutes of the Bago Community Facilities District Board meeting of June 16th, 2025. Second. Hey, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Any opposed?

Motion carries. Next item is D1, new business. Madame Chair, members of the board, the item before you tonight is to consider the approval of a resolution adopting the tenative budget for the Vago Community Facilities District and establishing the spending plan for fiscal year 2027 in the amount of $288,600. The district budget is specifically designed to pay for existing debt service expenditures of the district and to fund reserves. Included as part of this budget is a property tax rate of 1.0565 per $100 of net assessed value. The te this tax includes an operational component of30 and a general obligation debt service component of 7565. If adopted this tenative budget will become the FY2027 expenditure limitation for the district. The required forms will be published in the local newspaper. The board will be asked to hold a public hearing on the budget and the tax levy on June 1st, 2026 and will be asked to adopt the final budget on June 1st, 2026 after the public hearing and to establish the tax rate and levy on June 15, 2026. And with that, I'll take any questions.

Okay, any questions, comments? Okay, Adriana, if we can get a resolution number.

Resolution number 78, a resolution of the board of directors of the Bago Community Facilities District, Cassagrand, Arizona, adopting the tentative estimate of the amount required for the public expense for the Bago Community Facilities District for fiscal year 2026 to 2027. Adopting a tentative budget setting forth the receipts and expenditures, the amounts actually levied and the amounts estimated as collectible for the previous fiscal year and the amount proposed to be raised by direct property taxation for the various purposes. In giving notice of the time for hearing taxpayers for adopting of budget and for fixing the tax levies. Chair Fitzgiven, I move to approve resolution number 78 as presented.

Second. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Member Rebecca Ramo, yes. Member Shawn Dugan, yes. Member Anthony Edwards, yes. Member Bob Hedson, yes. Member Matt Herman, yes. Vice Mayor Brent Villan, yes. Chairman Lisa Fitzgiven. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay, we'll go ahead and close the Vago Community Field Facilities District Board meeting and we'll go ahead and start the regular or the study session at six o'clock. So, we'll break for a little over 10 minutes. Thank you. Hi, Anthony.

Hi, Anthony. You missed them all. Forgot to look at all these agendas.

Okay. and start the study session. So, thank you everyone for being here. I'll start with um agenda item one which is the presentation update and discussion of the um destination marketing organization from by the chamber. So thank you Renee for being here.

Thank you for having me. Can you all hear me? Yes.

Good. Good. Um well this is really nice. I haven't been here in a year and I think that we have a lot to talk about here in Kasa Grande and um what we're doing in tourism to start our the tourism office is is what we're talking about that function today and the vision statement for that function is to steward experiences attract and attractions that strengthen our community and enhance our local economy. And we do have a tourism advisory group. The total collective includes Mindy Peer with the city of Kasa Grande and then Matt Herman, council member, Zoe Cooper with Kramer Media, Holly Nash, Kasa Grande Main Street, Ryan Barrett, City of Kasa Grande Economic Development, Ash Patel with Southwest Hospitality Management, Mike Taylor, Roben Ranch, and Wendy Fields Mainstay Suites. This is a list of all of our members. However, um we don't have them at all the meetings every time. Um so I want to talk about each of the things the activities that we engage in and use well we spend funds on. So I think that some handouts were passed out and uh one of the first things that we put on our budget is um up to $50,000. We budget for 50 because the Arizona Office of Tourism gives away $50,000. It just seems like a good idea to get $100,000 in marketing activities and maximize this opportunity. And we're able to do so because we are we have been designated by the city as a destination marketing organization. So the program is specifically has been designed for rural destination marketing organizations. Um, in fact, more recently, Arizona Office of Tourism announced that it includes Puma County, but it doesn't

include Maricopa County. So, um, pretty much any DMO or any in smaller communities, it might be the chamber office designated by the city as the DMO. Um, they they can qualify for this. And we do our best to get the most we can. All of the opportunities, the advertising opportunities, the participants um uh they are vetted by Arizona Office of Tourism and as anyone applying for a budget for this, it is looking at a menu of options that are print media, digital options, passport programs, platforms for um visitor count, um billboards. We we've done a little of everything and I'm going to tell you about that in the next few slides slides. And in July of 23 we applied for and received 28,000 29 match in funds to purchase 56,58 in dollars in advertising. And that resulted in half page and full page print display ads in 18 publications that are distributed from only from over 60 visitor centers in Arizona. So we passed out three more current publications. Those are sent to us by those publishers and we give them out in our visitors center and this is what happens throughout the state. So our ads are available in PAC and Flagstaff and um Seligman and other visitor centers throughout the state. So when people are driving around and enjoying a visit to Arizona, they might think, "Oo, Kasa Grande." That's what we hope. In 2024, we applied and received match funds in the amount of $47,590.75. And so that gave us over $95,000 for publishing.

We did print display ads in nine publications that are distributed to over over 60 visitor centers along with four digital placements for over two million combined impressions throughout all of those products. In 2025 again we just shy came short of the 50,000 for a match of 99150 and we had digital placement in visitarizona.com Arizona Highways magazine digital and print cactus league baseball association print media included the Arizona state travel guide we are always happy to be in that particular product because the AOT produces over 400,000 of the state travel guide and those are distributed throughout the state and to hotels. And so people flipping through those magazines will see Kasa Grande. Fun fact, you ever I don't see them as much anymore, but American Airlines used to have that little magazine and I was flying back from Washington DC and I pulled this is before I got this job, but I saved the page. I pulled um the magazine out and I was flipping through it. Have any of you ever heard of Del Rio, Texas? Raise your hands. one the only reason I'm familiar there is my son that was his first base assignment in the Air Force but they had a full page ad in the American Airlines magazine and they have a captive audience flipping through those for two four six hours at a time so I think that being in a magazine and that people are choosing to pick up and flip through gives us an opportunity to make that impression on them. The Arizona Drive Guide is um a magazine offered and put in vehicles at car rentals or available in kiosks and we participate in that. Also um the state RV travel guide, Tucson guide and others and we did hand out some samples. We also um purchased the software for the

taco trail. So that's called Bendango. And we were able to use that as a passport for the um Taco Trail 1.0 and Taco Trail 2.0 0 as well as Crowdrift which is um user generated content images that we can access for for our promotions and and content we're creating as well as digital asset management storage. So that is some of what we've done there. We'll get back to some of those products. Billboards, that's another thing we've taken. We've had some fun doing those. Um, we started out with Clear Channel. Clear Channel is the A lot of the billboards along I 10 have gone through some changes in ownership, but we started with Clear Channel and we um actually in August of 22 is when we first started with that. We applied for and received $66,928 in grant funds from the Arizona Office of Tourism for a Visit Arizona initiative. So, we didn't have an agreement with the city yet, but we were able to apply for these funds because they designated us for the application and we um did a campaign between Tucson and Phoenix, a couple of billboards on each way. And we got quite a few phone calls from people saying, "Oh my gosh, I just saw a billboard with Kasa Grande on it." And oh, wrong direction. These are what some of the messages were. This is only four of the six messages we had along I 10. And we have little sample sample gifts of these that are just de desktop billboards in our lobby because they gave them to us as thank you gifts. So in January 24 we we launched that billboard campaign. I'm sorry we launched a different one. This one um a presentation was done in um

April May of 24 by our our former employee and it was because actually it was a representative of Clear Channel because we launched a Midwest billboard campaign promoting our sunny skies and beautiful sunsets to Minnesota, Minneapolis. And um the there was snowy pictures that were shared of our beautiful billboards um on gray dismal days. So that was helpful. But the idea of the campaign and the call to action was a enter to win a stay at an RV park. And we did ended up with um some of our measurements 40 million impressions out of the billboards and we reached about nearly 20% of each market on an average of 17 times through the campaign. And we had enhanced awareness of Kasa Grande as a travel destination. We had 50 signups for the one month free giveaway. In September 24, we ran a campaign with Lamar along the I8 corridor to try and capture and and have some exposure there to drivers. Um, more recently, we have two active billboards currently, and I don't know if you've seen this on Facebook, but we have over 780 likes on that. We did not share it. Somebody who thought it was an interesting endeavor did, but what's really neat is one, there's over 160 comments and a lot of them are positive, some are negative. We It's CG chat. And then also we received a phone call, not a phone call, excuse me. We have a young professionals network group that meets every other month, every quarter, and they um a young lady came to our lunchon. Hadn't been there before, not a member. And I said, "Oh, she introduced herself. I have her name here for you." Melody Courtney. She um she runs a

fitness a fitness business out of her garage. and she saw the billboard. She said, 'I saw that billboard on the highway and so I looked up the website and I explored it and I came across the calendar of events and here I am. So that's just an example of how it worked locally. We had a new member, new person come to our young professionals lunchon and this is the other one. This is what it is close up. And the design of this um we ran this by some of our hotel years for their input because we want them to come and be our guest in Kasa Grande. And now that we have a new hotel open, we need to put heads in the beds. And we have another one on like going up on the other side of uh behind

Hobby Lobby. I almost said the old word. Um it's a film office. We have a film office in Kasa Grande and it is a partnership between the city of Kasa Grande and the chamber and tourism office and it's a result of uh a gentleman named Mark who has worked in the film industry coming and saying we need to get films to come here and we um had I think Matt came in for a meeting and former mayor McFarland and had a phone call with the brother of James Earl Jones who works at the Arizona off um office of no the commerce commission and they are the ones who operate the state film office initiative. So we have developed a page on their page. So if someone is interested in coming to Kasa Grande and looking for particular assets for a film we can help connect them with that and we have I know at least one person wanted to be in a library setting in a small town. So we got to make that happen and they spent hours in our library filming a part of their their project. So this is we're at the ready and um we get chances to go and participate in things local event marketing. We started doing this in our first full year 23 24 and we budgeted 7,000. We didn't know where to start. Uh at that time Panell County had a program and they were budgeting 50 for everything across the county. So, we were conservative, but we were able um we awarded $4,000 in projects, the annual street fair, and we we we use a rubric to measure them. Do they draw people to the community? Is it held in and draws people to Kasa Grande? So, if it's outside of our city limits, we're not going to support it. We want

people to come to town. And then lastly, um, do we get overnight stays? So, we've helped these these two organizations with their events. Um, October Fest does draw a lot of people to the downtown area and has for the past couple years. The street fair is always a busy event and so we continued that and upped the budget in 24 to 25 to 15,000 and we awarded 11,750 to these organizations including Mike Survey Memorial Pro Classic. They're not a local organization, but they have a roping event which draws people. MC Music LLC had Viva La Raza, and that event was very, very well attended. Um, we haven't received any requests for them, and a lot of people do come down to see the annual toy parade. So, we gave them just a little bit of money and supported several projects for Main Street. 25 26 we expanded the tourism budget to 30,000 and increased the award amounts because that was feedback from our tourism advisory group and also some other members of the community. And this is how we dispersed it. Uh we awarded $27,000 in funds to support three main street projects, Skydive Arizona, their um World Cup canopy event. I know that when we've visited with Skydive, we always remind them about what lodging we have available in town, and I know a lot of their people do come to town to eat. Um, the Rotary Foundation, we we supported two events, the Servy, Mike Survy uh Pro Classic, and then the Copper Country Music Fest, which I understand its inaugural event was a big hit. Also on top of the money that we are providing to these uh awarding to these organizations for their use in getting their program up and running, we piggybacked and did so a cooperative advertising. We were paying for the ads, but the ad was to promote and

co-branded, but to promote each of these events. And um this is one example, but they all kind of had this look and feel, but the imagery was different. obviously the verbiage and what the event was about, but we did those and this was a digital marketing campaign by us to promote and get more people to come to these events and hang around in downtown and our other communities. Neon Sign Park partnership. I know that we have 30 minutes, so I'm hopefully not going too quickly. We started out in 23 and 24 with a program to help offset operating costs for the neon sign park and we had put anou in place and we did um provide funds for 23 through 24. However, in 24, we just kind of had some we weren't able to finalize theou um we needed to clarify some of the expectations of theou and we've been working to do so and Holly was out and then she came back and she was super busy and so we circle back and close that loop and I have uh sent her an updated 2425 because we want to retro back a payment for that and I'll also send her a 2526. We'll bring that up at our tag group tomorrow. But this way we can we can make whole where we were in 24 and 25 and she can recoup those costs. Printed collateral. It's always fun when somebody takes a picture and shares it on social media that they were in San Diego and you'll see this in a separate slide and they saw rat cards that say Kasa Grande on it. That's because that's what we did in 22 and 23. As part of that visit Arizona initiative grant, we expended um 20 over $12,000 to print 85,000 rack cards. And and so to the right there, that's that's an example of their rack program.

If you go to the um uh quality in, they have one of those certified folder rack cards in their lobby. Um so for the 2223 program they were distributed to 340 sites in the Phoenix area, 30 sites in Picacho Kasa Grande which includes our hotels, San Diego International Airport, Harryweed International Las Vegas, Phoenix Mesa Gateway and VTIPS banner ad which is that screen you see at the top of that rack. In 2526, we updated the rat card um because it was originally printed before we even had a URL for tourism, but we wanted to get out there and start promoting Kasa Grande. So, this is a new rat card takes them directly to experience Kasa Grande and we printed 60,000 and that was 12,634 combined for the print and distribution. and it was 30 sites in Kasa Grande Picacho. Uh Mesa Gateway has one location, Seattle Airport Program with eight locations, San Diego International with seven locations, and then again the Btips in both the Phoenix area and Picacho Kasa Grande. So those have um nobody comes in and says, "Oh, I got this." But they're out there and people are learning about us. Um we did budget for and we used the public relations writers influencers budget line item. We um connected with a group called welcome to Arizona. It's uh two brothers who are influencers. They have over 1.3 million following followers on Instagram and they have a following of over 450,000 on Tik Tok. So we wanted to be able to get in front of their followers

and they do brief videos and they also have a newsletter. So um our program means we get a video every quarter and they distribute it on their channels and we get and people are directed back to the experienced kasa grande platforms. So in 20 quarter three of 24 we did three Instagram posts, three stories. You can see the activity there. And then in 24 and 25, the those two fiscal years 20 ending 25 ending 26, we increased our investment into that program and had a lot of mileage on one of ours that had uh these are just some of the pictures that are in it. But there these are snapshots taken out of the video. They got to drive around the podium club as a passenger. A big line item is our signature event. This was originally proposed uh in fact this whole program was proposed and agreed by our board before I joined the chamber in May of 2019. And so, you know, at one point it was proposed as a community marketing organization and we're the destination marketing organization because that particular phrase is appropriate to the Arizona Department of Revenue for the taxes as well as Arizona Department of Tourism for the funds we apply for. Um, so we hosted we planned and hosted our first signature event um in 2024. I'll just refer to this as the windy one. If any anyone who attended knows, it was just very exciting. But um for a firsttime event, we did well. We budgeted 34,000. We were able to get another $43,000 in sponsorship and 4,000 in kind. And we did um we did charge entrance for year one and year two. So

we were able to collect money at the gate. So, our total revenue was $78,238 and that was entrance fees, bars, sponsorships, and vendor fees. And our expenses were a little over. And so, um, you know, if you look at that, we had, uh, we we were in the negative for $5,21, but we also used 34,000 plus the 43,000 and such. Moving on to our second year. We're going to call that one the good year. The weather was perfect. And we had um not too many snafuss. We did have a band snafu. Our headliner dropped out and we had to switch gears on that. But um we the year one we had 24,000 2400 people attend. In year two we had um I had it written down. We had over like 2600 people attend and that's uh from 3 pm to 900 pm. Most everyone is through the gate by 7:30 because that's when the final show is. That uh resulted in um year two. Oh, there's some fun pictures from year one though because we did have Roger Klein and the Peacemakers. The second year we budgeted more hoping that we could get draw a bigger crowd and invested more in marketing. Um we did gain 22 sponsors. We had 63,500 in cash and 8,500 in kind and trade. Uh total revenue was 90 over 92,000. And again our expenses were a little over that. However, if you we actually had carryover because we offset so much of the operating costs. we still had a majority of the $70,000 if you back out that 4500 negative. And lastly,

2026, after feedback and talking it out, we try we said, let's try not because there was a lot of complaints from people being charged to come in the gate and then also having to pay for tacos. So, we tried no entrance fee, but it was 105 degrees out, so we'll just call that one the hot one. Um but we still had 2100 attendees. It was a good event. We had good music. Um people were coming through the gate at 3:30 with their folding chairs and went straight to that big tree. And it was a really good event. We didn't do as well on um sponsorship for the third year. We had 44,000 sponsors in sponsorship. We did budget the 70,000 and our uh total revenue was only 52866 which is bar sponsorships vendor fees. So being under 3,160 we had um 38 39,000 to carry over from that. Next we're getting close. We kicked off a a passport program and this was inspired by everyone on social media media who complains that we don't need another Mexican restaurant and we thought why don't we encourage people to support local and eat at Mexican restaurants. So, we created a taco trail and um we started it in 25 after doing the planning in 24 and we had a January kickoff and we did have a budget to match on the bandwo passport and uh that is for people to do more of a virtual check-in at the restaurant and we also printed books where people can just come in with their book and show the receipts and we give and their

incentive. But if you see somebody going around with the black t-shirt that says um I you know they they completed the taco trail and let's talk about it. That's what they did. Um we engaged 15 restaurants to um participate and that was Taco Trail 1.0. Starting last year, our plan was let's do a bit bigger, but we kicked it off in January because that's when we had the most people here. We um provided more marketing material to the restaurants so that they have table tents with QR codes and got people engaged. And we had 456 individuals sign up on the Bandwango passport. 372 of them checked in and um we've given away quite a few prizes for the incentives and the incentives are either the t-shirts or restaurant gift cards from p uh participating restaurants. And for any of you who feel like you still have time to finish your taco trail, it ends Friday. Next, we talk about what we do. Um, we have an ongoing campaign and we work with Blossom Digital Marketing. Uh, and they do our campaigns in using all of the subbrands. So, you have some of them here on your your uh, upward banners there that we do don't have a work it, but we have a parket promoting Kasa Grande's parks and also Kasa Grande's RV parks. Love it. Come to Kasa Grande. You'll love it. We also have live it and it is really to promote and you can see the budgets for each year uh 20,320 for fiscal year 24 and we've increased that um it's actually been the same

amount year-over-year but what we're getting and I don't have them here I keep on using this wrong I'm sorry utilizing Facebook Instagram Tik Tok digital campaigns focus on the the stamps and the community. It takes people to the community calendar to find out what to do to um learn about Kasa Grande as a home base. If you think about our winter visitors, they're here for months. This is their home base. And we want them to go to our restaurants. We want them to enjoy our local attractions. And so, we point them out to them. And again, Kasa Grande's green spaces and RV parks. And as such, we also needed to make sure they had a place to explore. And in 2024, we did the initial buildout of the um the website for experience Kasa Grande and we budgeted 2500 for the second year for some updates and we just had a conversation that we have to update a couple of pages and so we did budget 11680. And lastly, I think this is probably one of the best things we've done because it's been useful in everything else we're doing. And that was we started out trying to find um a program that we could purchase using the AOT match and we explored and determined we'd go with Datafi and Datafi took at least 30 days to get a report which was really disappointing and the reports were not very robust and so we weren't able to really glean a lot of information from what's going on at our events and they just they're tracking phones, people pinging different apps and stuff as tracking phones. So, we um instead did more research and moved forward with Placer AI. It is a bigger investment. However, one of the things

we did was pass around some reports for you that show how many people have gone to events, what hours are they there, what are some of the peak attendance. They just give us more information about the events that are happening. And not only are we using them for the events that we're sponsoring and our own events, but in communication with the city, we helped um uh I think we have what is it how many points of

32 points of interest for the city so we can see how how you're getting traffic at those locations and we provide reports which I also have those here if you want me to pass them around. But that is everything from Albert Cruz Park all the way down to rest western Manor Park and every park in between is a point of interest that we can pull reports for our partners here at the city community services office. And that as much as I have for you today about tourism. Do you find those reports interesting? Would you like to see more? Well, they're interesting. It's just a lot lot of information. So, we didn't we didn't have time to go through them very very

well. We're happy to um you know, we could anyone wants to come over and learn about them, right? We can sit down and talk about them and show you how to read them, but they're very helpful. Okay. And and lastly,

I'm going to go to that page because I'm going to talk about something we're doing here for the chamber. It's not a tourism function. and it's a chamber function and a chamber expense because we are all about local and um this past year we kicked off a shop local campaign for the holidays and um as we ended our fiscal year which ends in December we decided we were going to invest in a fullear campaign which we're just getting off the ground and hopefully we'll have a campaign ongoing but one of the items in this program is vinyl clings we have it's going to be predominantly digital marketing campaign And we have some videos that will be fed to um served on streaming platforms but also digital marketing that you see now just the content ads. But I know many of you have small businesses. Would you like a vinyl cling to put in your office? Good.

All right. Thank Thank you, Renee. I'll take one. I think you gave me one. Thank you. Okay. Well, thank you. And Eric, thank you for being here, too. Is there anyone that has any questions for Renee or Eric?

No. No. Um, just as far as, you know, thank you for providing the update. Um, Renee, I I just had a couple questions because I, you know, I of it's great to see, of course, the history too, where we are, where we were, how it started, and where we are today. But, you know, you talked a lot about um investment and where we're spending the money and I was just wondering in maybe in the future you can provide more on what what those return on investments are. um I didn't see a whole lot in there um on that and and and maybe the place or AI at least gives us an idea of who's attending events but how many of those people are from out of town and then so I think I would like to understand you know as a destination marketing organization in a tourism office are most of those funds really to be used for attracting people from out of town and if that is the case you know are you tracking that. It it it would have been nice to see a little bit of that information here today so we can kind of see, you know, I know, you know, with the city, we've been really evaluating some of the events and some of the events that are successful, some that aren't as successful and and kind of building on, you know, um the ones that are that are doing well. And so when I look at some of your your events on here, you know, I've been to most of those. Um, so just curious, you know, how many people are coming from out of town and and if and if that's really what those funds are supposed to be used for. And I I think I would like more information. I know we we've talked about that. maybe getting more information on how those are supposed to be used, but um it it I it it would be helpful to have that information and then what you're doing, you know, to address some of the the lower, you know, there was a couple events on there that I went to that were not real um well

attended and it it could be the time of year or whatever it is. So, what what are you doing to evaluate those and moving forward to maybe make those changes on sponsorships? Are you talking about those organized by the tourism office or those that were sponsoring? Um sponsoring. Okay.

Sponsoring. Yep. Okay. And then organized by the tourism office. Um I guess there's, you know, some of the marketing stuff, you know, doing billboards in Minnesota, you know, how how many people did we really have come, you know, to there could have been 50 inquiries, but did anyone really come and and use those? So, um, you know, just just some of that stuff. It it would be nice to see some of the the results.

Of course. Of course. One thing I I do want to kind of, uh, articulate here is we started this at the beginning of 2024 and um, it took several months to get a person to work in there and then unfortunately we lost them 12 months and then we were had a gap and we started over. So we started out in our infancy and then in a way we're still kind of we kind of fell back a bit. Overall our goal has been you know is creating awareness in two ways. We do market outside of Kasa Grande and it's creating impressions outside of Kasa Grande that Kasa Grande is a place to go visit and also a little bit internally because um if you don't have brand ambassadors in your community an answer answering people's questions those people want to come back. So we we want to do a little local love but also a lot more external marketing. And um as for our event, I know that we're evaluating, you know, we want to level it up. We do want people to come from out of town. Um and now that we have available rooms, which is probably been a challenge the past couple years is the lack of vacancies in hotels. And unfortunately, until we have more competition in that particular market, it's not as expensive to stay up in the valley. And I'm just sharing the truth. when we go around and kind of price out what are people charging for a room night, it's like, oh, so um I think that the more hotels we have another hotel now with uh the um Town Place and and Fairfield. However, um the more rooms we have, the more competition and more helps bring those rates down, I hope.

Right. And as for a lot of marketing, what you're gaining is impressions, right? So, I could certainly provide more reporting on the impressions. I know that Eric does in the quarterly report. He provides the those impressions in um the reports in Blossom, but we'll happy to come back and tell you more. Right. Okay. Yeah. No, I've actually gotten positive feedback on that billboard. I know that social media post that person was a little negative, but you know, but people have noticed it and have said something. So, um yeah. So, maybe I don't know about Minnesota, but um I think I think we're doing better, too. We'll that was that was a a trial. We hope to gain more traction on that, but I think we'll do better

um local or like outside of Kasa Grande, but Arizona and not as far away, California, Nevada, Utah, depending on time of year. No. and and of course I appreciate the the marketing of Casran and like you said or you know we we all want to be there and promote you know the the positive that's going on but I think it's just always challenging to you know make sure that we're maximizing those funds. Yeah. You know they they are a tax you know um and so making sure that we're just always evaluating how we're going to get better and utilize and maximize all of those dollars. I I do have one Am I over on time? Sure. I know. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. One anecdote. Sure.

Um earlier this year, so our winter visitor um season started a little sluggishly and then um they were definitely gone by April 15th, but we had a couple come down and they were just down here for the day. And they said, "We usually winter up in Mesa or thereabouts and we just don't like it up there anymore. It's too busy. It's too frenetic. The traffic is crazy. And we just we came down here and it's just so much nicer." and they were looking at places to stay here and planning their next winter. Good. So, well, good. Thank you, Renee. You're welcome. Any other questions, comments? Okay. Well, thank you. Okay. What was that?

Oh, okay. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. We do have another item on the um study session and um is that you, James? All right.

Well, I'm happy to brief city council on staff's progress with updating the sign code. Just so you know, uh, earlier in the month, we had the opportunity to make a study session presentation to planning commission to get feedback. The update to the sign code um is underway, but there hasn't been substantial revisions made to it as of yet. The point of these study sessions and and potentially more to come is to apprise council of what updates have been made, the direction that staff was going with it and why. And and to get feedback along the way to get your input so that the ultimate document is is something that is representative of what um the business needs and and residents needs are. So the current sign code is 50 years old. And the good about it is that it is organized in a manner that um is still found in many sign codes. And while there have been changes in federal and state law, which is largely what's prompting the need to update the sign code from a regulatory perspective, however, our our sign code is mostly compliant. The bad though is that it is 50 years old. So when Kasa Grande had a population of about 12,000 people and now it's six times larger with more complex developments and advertising needs. One thing to point out is the city limits back then hadn't reached I 10 and I8 and and that affects sign code because if you think about it, there's not really a need to have extra large signage to attract travelers going 75

miles per hour like you would have then, but you probably need to think about that now potentially. The current code is somewhat confusing especially to a firsttime user and there's an unequal application of it to businesses and I'll talk about that on an upcoming slide and it does have some frustrating limitations. Um, for example, although you're going to see contradictions to what I'm saying, but in our code, signage is not allowed on elevations other than a building's frontage. So, if you think about it, technically signage is only allowed on the elevation that's parallel to the street. But if you're going down a street, you're either looking to the left or right. And so there'd be some benefit to allow signage on the elevations that are perpendicular to the street. Again, once leaving here tonight, you'll see what what was James talking about, but but technically our code does have some restrictions on those perpendicular elevations. But there is opportunity to revise the sign code to address the fact that we're larger, respond to evolving methods of advertising, become compliant with state and federal law changes, and simplify procedures and processes. And so the the rewrite has been done in the spirit of looking at property signage needs differently than just its zoning. regarding the updates to the federal and state law. Real quick, just the the primary changes is that there was a Supreme Court ruling in 2015 that sign codes must regulate from a contentneutral

position. So that means that a message displayed on a sign cannot be a factor on whether the sign is permitted. regulations are limited to matters such as their size, number, style, placement, and duration. It's not dependent on content. Um then there is some changes in the Arizona revised statutes regarding um whether or not to allow sign walkers. Those are the people who are basically walking signs. And then election signage. Um, Arizona Revised Statutes prohibits municipalities from removing election signs within rightaway during certain times associated with elections. So, when thinking about signs, and I'm I'm not going to spend a long time because I know I'm up against it, but you you it's important to organize the sign code in a manner that clearly describes the different types of signs. And boy are there a lot. Um, it basically comes down to two categories. Freestanding and then signage that's either mounted to something or attached to something. And and there are a wide variety of different sign types. And the sign code revision intends to describe these in a more clear direction. Um, so here's some typical examples of pylon signage. It's where you know you have the sign sitting a top typically a thin pole and then you have billboards which technically are also pylons but as I say probably um all billboards are pylons but not all pylons are billboards necessarily. I might have said that in reverse but you get the idea. uh

billboards is usually when there's off- premise content me advertising for a business. And then you have monument signs which are typically known to be lower to the ground and they have a base to them but not necessarily low to the ground. Um you know you could argue that the prominade sign is a pylon because there is a gap between the ground and and where the content starts. However, it is a very um stately sign. There's a lot of mass to it, and the fact that there is a gap is kind of inconsequential to it being otherwise um a much different looking sign than the true pylon that I showed you in the earlier images. And then you have what usually is more of uh temporary signs. So oftent times you have signage needs for real estate agents um for promotional purposes. You might have post signs and then you have directional signage um that that also needs to to be addressed in some manner. And then the picture on the right, um, in the background, you see a mounted sign, which is like a banner attached to a wall. Again, probably used for a promotional, um, purpose. And then you have the bandit signs in the foreground, which which are probably super temporary, though. You never really want those to stay and and litter an area for for too long. And then you have flags and pennant signage. Um that tends to be what what the planning department hears complaints about the most. But then on the flip side, we get a lot of requests for those. So there is kind of a little bit

of a conflict of interest in terms of businesses find them very affordable and it's an easy attractive well somewhat attractive way to quickly promote your business. But then there's a proliferation of those types of feather um pennant signs. And then of course you have flags. And then with regard to um the other category of mounted signs, again you have a distinction between what would be considered permanent signage. Um, in both examples to the left and right, you see very um you see signage in clearly intended to be permanent, but it's not always something that's technically mounted like in the right. It's painted. Um, you know, and it does tend to become very subjective. Um, perhaps it could have been painted gift shop with different colors or with a better looking font, but that is probably the intention for it to be permanent signage. But then you have what is probably maybe more intended to be temporary signage, but currently um a business could use a banner in place of their attached signage and that could be their permanent signage. So, some of the feedback that I'm looking to get is should there be some design standards for attached signage and maybe allow banners but under more of a temporary time frame. And then you also have window signage. Um, this is a good example where there's reasonable signage in the windows, but then businesses can can use their windows as an opportunity to to really promote whatever they're promoting, and that's understandable. However, in, you

know, if you look at it from a from the standpoint of a message, if you use all your windows to convey a message, that might be not as fair. If your business happens to have a lot of windows and and and otherwise if you just have a wall canvas, is it okay to just put some type of signage on that wall? And and that's why coming up with defined limitations of what each business gets makes some sense in terms of leveling the playing field. And then you have what's clearly um temporary signage such as associated with promotions and um building construction. But here you have in the bottom that Dennis sign, it's it's an attached sign to a fence much I mean if you said there's a a fence attached sign well the the fences on or the signs on the left those are clearly temporary but the dentist sign that's permanent. So you know you don't want that to be temporary. And then this just um highlights the difference between the 1975 zoning map and the 2026 zoning map. Obviously the city has grown not only in size but in zone districts. Um and currently if you were to look at our general business zone which is a common zone district a lot of Florence Boulevard corridor is in the B2 but not all of it. Um, this is what the sign code indicates what's allowed with regard to freestanding versus attached. However, in the B1 zoning, which allows some of the same businesses, um, it's it's similar but different. You can't have a sign as tall if it's freestanding. Um, you're only limited

one freestanding sign, no matter how big of parcel you have. And um there's some restrictions, but interestingly, you know, if you have a restaurant in B2, you are beholden to more signage than a restaurant in B1. And so that's how in a in a sense just zoning alone can be treated um could treat the same business a little bit unequally. And then this is the Florence Boulevard corridor that I was referencing. And the B2 is the pink reddish color. So, as you can see, most of of the corridor is in that consistent zone district. However, I do want to point out there are some other zone districts interspersed. You see the off whites and and um and the pale yellows. So, it's not all within the B2 zoning. So, it's a little bit interesting that a property right next to the B2 would be beholden to different signage than its neighbor, even though it's all along the same corridor. So, what the revisions to the sign code intends to do is to instead look at zoning or excuse me, look at signage in a more dynamic way. It intends to look at it based on two factors. one its general plan designation and then also the street classification the property is located next to. So when looking at it from a general plan perspective, although on that previous graphic you noticed that Florence Boulevard, although mostly was in B2, there was a a smattering of other zone districts. In this case, you see per the general plan, most of it is in the community corridor. And as you get closer to I 10, you go into the commerce and business category

and then further west, you go into the downtown category. So, what the proposed revisions um intend to speak to is these general plan categories character. Should commerce and business have some different signage needs by merit of the fact that it's in the commerce and business category. Those properties tend to be properties next to highways and then of course you have the downtown which is clearly a different character. But then the community corridor has a specific character goal and perhaps there's some some signage standards that can speak to those respective general plan designations. The other reason why it's being suggested to tie it to general plan categories is because while there's 15 zone districts, there's only there's much fewer general plan categories. So all of the zone districts that you see on the left are can fit into different general plan categories. They'd shuffle into some respective categories, but this way it's intended to to look at it more um based on the character of the area. And then tying it to the um to the the roadway designation is based on the fact that we have principal arterial roads and and those roadways are designed to have speeds of 45 miles per hour. Um arterial roads whether they're minor or principal um are multi-lane. They're either two or three lanes in each direction. And then you have um collector and local roads which their speeds are inherently slower and narrower roadways. And so the idea is is if you're along an arterial or a

highway, you're going at a much faster speed and there's a logical reason to allow signage to be a little bit larger because you have to see it from further away. By the time you get to the business, you've passed it if it's too small of a sign. And but similarly, you have other street categories that are narrower, slower speeds where it probably doesn't speak to the need to have the same type of signage. And of course, local streets um tend to be a lot of our residential roads. And of course, you don't think about, well, what signage is needed on a residential street, but there are still some with regard to subdivision signage. Um, you might have a nice monument entry signage that would be assoc maintained by the HOA and then you have a lot of temporary signage needs for residential areas, people needing to put a sign up for sale of their property, etc. And so the um the examples here is you see a an arterial road in the manufacturing and industry general plan category where Lucid is, but then you have a rural general plan category along the highway. And so so there is some purpose and benefit to having the sign code speak to that correlation. The way that it is proposed to do that is to create what's known as a sign intensity tier where each general plan category is listed by with respect to the roadway designation the property is adjacent to and that describes whether it gets a low amount of signage, moderate or high or very high. And then it also looks at property

types. So undeveloped properties will get a certain amount of sign based on their intensity tier and so on. And then of course it looks at all the different sign types that I've walked through. Um one thing that I do want to point out is that historic signs, our current code already um serves as an exception to historic signs and that would continue to remain. It's not it would not be treated as a sign in the way that the non-historic signs are treated. And so just as an example based on the intensity tier of an undeveloped property and thinking about a temporary freestanding sign. So what would that be like a for sale sign if it's in a low intensity tier? staff was proposing some specific standards um versus the other tiers it could possibly be in. And then there's some additional rules with regard to the amount of frontage that the property has. Wow.

And so some of the things and I know we don't have a lot of time but like I say this is probably the first the first of several is some things that I'm trying to get feedback on are are manners such as banners u like I already talked about

and then um window signage. Currently, our code limits uh window sign or signage for windows to cover no more than 25%. Um and and you know, really what I'm getting at is is I understand that that in ensuring that businesses can thrive is a main objective. And so the intent is not to propose anything that's going to stifle a business, but the goal is to create some rules that that are reasonable and that aren't going to result in causing a business to spend an crazy amount of money. And that's that's why there probably should be some allowances to allow temporary signage for a period of time. But in terms of um a permanent standpoint, it's something to think about. Feather signs, as I mentioned on the previous slide, should those be limited maybe to just periodic promotions um or is it reasonable just to allow some without any regulation? Like I say, it it they they may be great for a while, but then they can become a matter of clutter. And then A-frame signage. You know, every business, it's understandable during business hours to have an A-frame sign, but um if you're talking about like a shopping center and there's a tenant every 30 ft and they each have an A-frame sign, it that becomes a different story. And of course, I'm looking at kind of a far-flung example, but but but there is something to be thought about in terms of ensuring that it doesn't block access ways, etc. And then in terms of the overall character of the city, um, one thing that I'm going to be getting wanting to get feedback on is what are the heights

that are desired for signs? Currently in our B2 zoning, signage can be 30 feet tall, but many um signages signage along Florence are much smaller and and they're they're kind of appropriate for the area. Um and again, the intent would be to say, well, Florence Boulevard's largely in the community corridor area. Um, so it would have a certain intensity type that that may not be high that would lead to the tallest of signs, but be be somewhere in the middle. And then another thing that we want to eventually explore are digital signs or electronic message center signs and billboards. We get a lot of requests. People like to kick the tires to talk about, well, we allow billboards along I 10. And something to think about is it doesn't have to be like the billboard you see on the left. It can be a more stately looking um billboard. Those are more expensive, but you know, that might be more appropriate in terms of if we're going to allow extra signage along the gateways to the city. And I of course already mentioned the goals, but this is stuff that matters that we'll obviously keep in focus. And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you, James. Wow. Lot of science. That was a lot of information. Yeah. But but I appreciate all the graphics, too, so we know what you're talking about. So, um, any questions, comments? It looks like you want some type of direction. So, I don't know. Do you want to just give comments real quick? I know we're up against time, but um Jim, thanks. Good presentation. Um you know, one planning person that worked here years ago told me that signs should blend in. And I'm like, you know, I'm a business owner. Signs are made to get people into your business.

Um so, I'm glad you you understand that and that it is important to help our businesses. You know, we can't be too restrictive because signs a big thing. It's tough in a business no matter what. Anything you can get to help. I really liked how you divided it by the corridors and by the the zoning um not the the community districts because you know it would be weird. It's like hey I want to put up a sign like my neighbor you can't because you you're you're in B1 and he's in B2. So that was a great thing. I think that's that's going to be the way to go to keep it fair because that's another thing I play my sign is to code but so every you know why should that guy be able to put a sign that's not to code. Um, but I think one of the things you're really gonna have to look at is those um the banners, you know, because I I do see them and I get it. They're way way less expensive than a permanent sign. But I mean, if if you're going to be there for a while, then we need to figure that out. But but yet still working with the business owners, say, "Hey, how how can this be cost effective for you?" Or at least make sure the banner's

kept up, you know, instead of being pattered, you know, and faded and everything. So anyway, but thanks. But I really like the ideas of, you know, doing it in the corridor areas to keep everything uniform. Bob, I want to tag on to what uh u what Matt said about maintenance of signs. If we can have something in the code that that talks about in uh in good condition or maintained. We've got a couple that are in town that are actually expensive signs, but they've been heat damaged or or something and and you can't read them any longer. And I I think that should be addressed. Good point, Sean. Sure.

Yeah. I also got a comment on the banners for for businesses. I agree with Matt 100% that they need to be kept up and and nice, but like a new business for say that they just move in and they barely scrape together enough money to open up their business and then they go, "Oh, you need a sign." you like, "Oh my god, those things are really expensive, you know, to have a permanent fixed sign, you know." So maybe like you said, just give them a temporary status, give them two years, three years, something like that until they can build their make sure that their business is successful. And then once they go, okay, this is just a temporary deal, keep it up, maintain it, but after two to three years or something, you're going to have to put a permanent sign up there. Something like that.

Okay. Any other questions, comments? I mean, I'm I agree with with both. I do like the idea of having the zone districts and I think um if you want to go back to your slide that showed the goals um of all of this. I think this is I think these these are good. You know, we want to make sure that we're business friendly. you know, like what both of you talked about running a, you know, small business. You know, there's a lot of challenges that people face and so um you know, you don't want to make it, you know, so um you know, so costly for them to get some type of sign and and be restrictive. Um you want them to thrive. I think you do do have to be fair fair, make sure we're fair and consistent and um and you know, you talked about um the character of the city and I think that's really important in in all of these pieces whether it comes to the temporary signs. You know, I I do I agree. I think, you know, maybe temporary for a certain amount of time, but you do see the the winds get pretty crazy here. Um, we've all run campaigns, so we know how our sides get beat up. But, um, you know, so the the winds get crazy, so you don't want banners hanging all over businesses throughout the city. So, um, I'm fine, you know, doing it just for short short time period. You know, the the feather, is that what you call the feather signs. Um, th those I I understand, you know, for promotional reasons, but um but they're they're not maintained. And so, you have some that are shredded. you have some businesses that that have 30 in front of their their business and so maybe limit to the number the maintenance on them and and the the amount of time that they have them. I just it's just you when you look at the character of the city. You don't want to be driving down Florence Boulevard and have these feather banners all the way down. So I um I get it, you know, for small businesses, but I just think it should be limited um with time. Um, but I think, um, you know, thank you for bringing up the the maintenance of

the signs because I think that that can really, um, you know, affect the the character of a city. So, um, but I do like where you're going with the with the the zone districts and, um, I just, you know, when I when I look through all of it and I just don't want it to be so confusing to people, you know, and, you know, where someone's just like, "Oh my god, this is just so complex, you So I think the simpler the better and being consistent and fair and and looking at other cities that that have updated since you know 50 years and and find out you know what works for them and some of the challenges they may face that could be really helpful and I know you guys are usually good at that. So um so that's what I would recommend.

Anything else? Okay. Okay. So I'm sure we can maybe provide feedback to you if there's any other feedback anyone wants to give if you're just taking that Um, so thanks again for the presentation and um, sorry we're running a little bit late to everyone that's here. We'll go ahead and break for 5 minutes if that's okay and we'll come back and start. So we'll journ

Good evening everyone. Thank you for joining us today at the city council meeting. Thanks for being patient all of you that are here. We we've been we've had study sessions since 5:30. So we're running just a little bit behind. So thank you for being patient. So, we'll go ahead and um start I'll um we're going to go ahead and start with the invocation and that's going to be by Deacon Brian Walsh from St. Anony's Church and followed by the pledge of allegiance. And for all of you that are willing and able, if you can please stand.

Mayor Fisgans, city council members, and all present here. Let us pray. Almighty God, we come before you in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, asking your guidance upon this city council, and all who serve here. You tell us in the book of Proverbs, where there is no guidance, a people fall, but in an abundance of counselors, there is safety. Grant to this to these city council members the grace of wise counsel. Give them the ears to hear one another and hearts open to truth. You command us through your Apostle Paul, let everyone be subject to governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. We pray that all here who govern may govern as your servants, knowing that all will answer to you, for how we steward the authority you have entrusted to us all. And Isaiah cries out to us, "Learn to do good, seek justice, rescue the oppressed, defend the orphan, and plead for the widow." Grant this council the courage to pursue justice, especially for those who have no choice, the poor, the unborn, the elderly, the stranger among us. And let them and all of us present here remember what Jesus said. Whatever you do for the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you do it for me. We ask your protection upon this city and all its people. Please strengthen our first responders, bless our families, watch over our children, and guide this council. And may all our works be done for your glory and the good of all your people. We ask this in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Amen. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Deacon, and thank you um um Vice Mayor Pedillan, Mayor Prom. Um, okay. So, next on the agenda is the roll call. Adriana, if you can please accept for the record that the council is all present. So, noted. Thank you. And next are the minutes.

Mayor Fitzgiven, I move to accept the minutes of the city council study session meeting of May 4th, 2026. The council regular meeting of May 4th, 2026, the planning and zoning commission of April 2nd, 2026. the planning and zoning commission special meeting of April 23rd, 2026 and the arts and culture commission meeting of April 16, 2026. The airport advisory board meeting of December 23rd, 2025. Uh the airport advisory board of March 24th, 2026 and as presented. That's it. Second.

Okay, there our our boards have been very busy. Um okay, there's been a motion and a second. All those in favor? Well, is there any other discussion on the minutes? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? Okay. Motion carries on the minutes. Next item are the claims. Mayor Fgiven, I move that we approve the claims report from April the 28th, 2026 through May 12th, 2026. Second. Okay. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I.

I. I. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. The meeting agenda approval. Um, are there any changes to the agenda? Larry, any changes? Madam Mayor, uh, staff would request that we remove item G11 and G12 from the consent agenda. Okay. Anything else? Anything else from the council? Okay, we can get a motion to approve. Mer given I move to approve the meeting agenda as amended. Second. Second. Okay. There's been a motion and a second. All those in favor please signify by saying I. I.

I. Any opposed? Okay. Next is is this consent agenda. All items listed with listed with an asterct are considered routine matters and will be enacted by one motion and one roll call vote of the council. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a council member or member of the public so requests in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence of the agenda. Is there anything else? I know we pulled two off. Is there anything else that anyone would like to pull off the consent? Okay. No one from staff. Anyone from the public?

Okay. Motion. Mayor Fitzgiven. I move to approve the consent agenda as amended. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion on the consent? Okay, we can get a roll call vote, please, Adriana. Council member Remo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Hudson, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Promillan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you, Adriana.

Okay. So, we have G11 and G12. Chief, are you going to go through those individually or I can do them at the same time if that's okay? Sure. I think they're very very similar. Yes. Okay.

If you wouldn't mind your microphone. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. Uh, madame mayor and councel, I'm uh here to speak to you about um a resolution to award a contract to Hughes Fire Equipment. As you know, Hughes Fire Equipment is the vendor that we use to purchase fire engines up in Phoenix. The fire engines actually come from Pierce back in Wisconsin. Uh the first resolution is to purchase a 2029 Pierce Velocity Ladder Truck. That'll be at a cost of $2.4 million. This purchase is being done through the city's vehicle replacement program. We are purchasing this on a source well contract. This will be replacing our the current 2007 ladder truck that we have that is out of service sitting over at fleet waiting to be uh sent away. As you know, the ladder truck is something that we use. Um, it's becoming a lot more needed in the community given that we're having a lot taller buildings being built and and more taller buildings being built. Um, the reason this was pulled, I'm I'm pretty certain, was because they you guys wanted me to talk about the time frame. I think some of you have heard this before, so I apologize for repeating myself, but um during COVID, the fire engine manufacturers kind of used as in my opinion as an excuse to extend lead times on fire engines. This particular lead time on this ladder truck is 33 months. So, we're buying that ladder truck now, and we won't receive that ladder truck until late 2028 or 29. Um, it's a problem. It's a industry-wide

problem for the fire service. Congress has actually had some hearings and brought the five big uh fire engine manufacturers before them to talk to them about this to try to get some resolution to this. I think you also know these Pierce fire engines and and all fire engines for that matter, they're built by hand from the ground up. They literally start out with a frame and build the entire fire engine by hand from top to bottom. And they go into when you go to Pierce, they actually have lanes where all these fire engines are and they move along the assembly line and you're basically put in a queue. That's how they're able to time when and approximately when your fire engine will be done. They're they're pretty accurate. the last one uh they timed it and it was right within two weeks of when they told us it would be ready. Um there's three quarters of the shop is fire engines and then the other probably 15% is ladder trucks and there's probably 10% are specialty vehicles like hazmat, technical rescue, command vehicles and stuff like that. It's an enormous place back in Wisconsin. Um, the second resolution is for a basically the same thing, although it's a pumper. It's a 2029 velocity pumper, similar to the same packages we've been received before. I think you guys will remember, especially the mayor and and some of the other folks that have been around for a while, we used to pay six or $700,000 for a fire engine. Well, the price tag on this one's 1.432 894. So basically $1.4 million for fire engine. This purchase is being done through our devel developmental impact funds. Um both of these both of these purchases

were approved by you guys uh back in um July or June when you when you approved the vehicle ordinance 3467. So, this is the second time you guys have seen this. Same exact thing with this one. We're purchasing this through Hughes up in Phoenix, but it is a Pierce fire engine that'll come from Wisconsin. We're using the same source well contract. And incidentally, that source well contract is good until 2029. This fire engine has a 28month lead time on it. Um, I will say that occasionally what happens is once when stuff's in the queue, a department will change their mind or they may not have the funding or they may have a a different legislative body that approves it and then decides not to approve it later. So, sometimes something will fall out of the queue and it'll move you up a few months. But right now, this is 28 months. The ladder truck's 33 months. Both of these apparatus are 15ear apparatus. 10 years on the front line, five years as a spare. That's about what I can tell you about these. Um, what questions do you have for me?

Thank you, Chief. Any questions, Sean? Oh, did you have one? Okay. Uh, I just got a couple quick questions. Um, you mentioned 33 months or 28 months, you know, to have it actually come back to us. How long are they actually Do you know how long it actually takes once it's cued or started that it takes to complete it? Generally, it takes about eight or nine months for them to actually build them. To actually build The problem is you're in the queue, right? Wait, you're basically waiting in line like at Disneyland. Correct. And then when you get up there, then you're on the ride. The ride's eight or nine months. Eight or nine months. And then you mentioned the old truck is sitting out there ready to go. Where's that go to? And are we getting any money back on that?

I don't I don't handle that. Okay. That's handled by that's handed by public works. I think they send them to auctions or they find places to to sell them. The we've been trying to sell this ladder truck for a year. Okay. There's not much market for this particular type of ladder truck and it doesn't work very well. It was in my opinion it wasn't a great purchase, but um we lived with it for the last 18 years. Right. So, okay. But it's sitting over at fleet ready ready to go. Okay. I when I was over a fleet today, I think they've gotten rid of some of the vehicles over there. There was a lot of vehicles over there. So, um it's a process they have to go through to get rid of them. Right. Okay. Thank you,

Bob. You mentioned Disneyland. Do they have a front of the line pass? Fast pass. Fast pass. Um, it's too bad they don't, but they Yeah. But my my real question was, uh, do they require a deposit, a down payment, a certain percentage at

We've gone through different programs. We've done programs where we prepaid for a discount and then we've done other programs where we pay when it's ready. The last time we checked, um, we looked at the prepayment program and it really wasn't worth it. the money the money was u better saved here in the city than it was sitting deposited with them over the when it was a one-year lead time it was worth it to do it. Now that it's a two and a half to threeyear lead time it's not worth it to prepay. Okay. In our opinion and we ran that by finance and the manager and and they all agreed with that. So we are not prepaying on this. Okay. All right. Thank you.

Go ahead Brandon. Just to kind of follow up on Bob's comment. So what does it require us to get into the queue? Do you have to make a payment at all to get in the queue? So let's say if you know you need a fire truck in 2030, does it make is there a way to get in the queue in six months so that by the time that comes around we actually get it when we need it or No, there's no way to do that. We've been discussing this ladder truck purchase for I, you know, I I get it. We don't print money here, right?

And I've struggled a little bit and and I've talked to the manager about this is that I'm asking you guys in 2026 to approve a fire engine that's not going to be here for three years. Some I I don't know this, but some Well, no, some of you won't be on city council in three years. So, it's a difficult thing and we've struggled with it, but this is this is our only course of action if we're going to get a new fire engine, a new ladder truck. We don't we can't get any we can't get a bump in the queue. Although, we don't have to make a down payment. We we we're a long-standing customer of Pierce and Hughes. We say, "Here it is." We sign the contract and that's how you bump up in the queue. Somebody signs a contract with them and then they pull it and say, "Hey, we we can't afford it or our council's going a different direction or we have a new council. That's how stuff drops out of the queue and you move up.

Okay, that we haven't ever we haven't ever done that, but uh I guess that was my question is if we needed the truck in two years, is there a way to get in in the queue to quicker so we have it on time? I want to make sure that you're not slow on getting a truck when you need it, I guess. No, there is not. Everybody wants their truck now. Yeah. Um if we if there was a secret way to get ahead of the queue, we would. There there just isn't. Okay. Okay. Um Chief, uh just real quick, I know it's been about a year and a half that we talked about this a little bit. I believe I sit on that and I know that price has changed.

Absolutely. This price changed from when I submitted when this RCA was submitted. Uh we knew there was a price change coming on April 25th, but we also um knew that this wasn't going to go to council until May 18th and we had to suffer through a a raise in prices just because of that four weeks. But yeah, they they've gone up significantly. Right. I I I mean I I don't want to date myself, but I I remember when we bought fire engines for $400,000. Yeah. Now it's $400,000 for a rescue. Yeah. And I I just bring it up. If we we delay it, the process is the price is going to go up again. Yeah.

And so it's kind of like um even our firehouse, our new firehouse, which we love, of course, that price went up because we delayed it a little bit. Um and so, but um so thankful that we do have it in. I know it's a lot of money, but we're talking about a fire truck and they are expensive. Um so, but anyways, just wanted us to be aware of that. Thank you, Matt. And the reason I want to pull these, chief, is not to delay by any means or just so people know how much these things cost now, how long it takes, and that we are planning ahead to get these trucks. We can't just decide to go buy a truck tomorrow, you know, and we know we're going to have new fire stations by this time. We're going to need to stock them with the right equipment. So, I thanks for doing that. And we better put a couple more on the agenda then.

I said, um, thanks. You got me. I left that one. Softball to you. Um, but yeah, it's just important and how much these trucks cost. So, and we can't Hard to get parts though too, right, for them once they It's not It's not that difficult to get parts. The problem is we have to get parts from them. Yeah. Um, and you know, our shop keeps what they can on the shelf. God bless them, but the stuff's expensive and you don't want to keep something on the shelf that you may not use. Yep. Right.

And also important to note, I think for our management and our council is that we have we pay cash when we buy a truck because we we budget for it. So, we're not financing these or anything. When we when we pick it up, we write a check and it comes to us. So, um, good planning and I just wanted people and there's a lot of people here tonight. So, it's good that people get to hear how much these trucks cost because I just didn't want to go by on the consent agenda and people say, "You just approved that truck for 2.8, you know, one and a half million." Like, no, we've been working on it for a long time. So, yeah. And it's a complicated process. We we actually when they're just about done actually go back and literally go over the entire thing with a fine tooth comb to make sure that we're accepting the apparatus and the pump uh

characteristics of the pump and and they drive well and everything. Make sure it's perfect when we get it. All right. Thank you. Any other questions, comments? Okay. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. Okay, we'll go ahead and um get the resolution for the first one. Adriana resolution number 5911 a resolution of the council of the city of Cassagrant Arizona accepting a proposal from Hughes Fire Equipment Inc. for the purchase of a Pierce velocity ladder truck authorizing the expenditure of public funds and authorizing execution of a contract with or purchase order to Hughes Fire Equipment Inc. Mayor Fitzgiven I move approval of resolution number 5911 as presented. Second

there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member Ramo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Hston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Proton Biddill, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. Okay. And then a resolution number for the second item. Resolution number 5912, a resolution of the council of the city of Cigrant, Arizona, accepting a proposal from Hughes Fire Equipment, Inc. for the purchase of a Pierce Bossi pumper, authorizing the expenditure of a public fund and authorizing execution of a contract with or purchase order to Hughes Fire Equipment, Inc. Mayor Fg, I move that we approve resolution number 5912 as presented. Second. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, Adriana, I appreciate a roll call vote. Council member Ramo, yes. Council member Digan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Hston, yes.

Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Proton Bedellan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. The next item is the public comment section. So, the Cascan City Council values citizen input. when called. Um for those of you that did um fill out a speaker card, um state your name and address. Um speak clearly into the microphone and limit your comments to three minutes or less. In fairness to all speakers, please do not exceed your time. In accordance with the law, the city council cannot respond to or discuss items not listed on the agenda, but may direct them to staff upon the conclusion of all public comments. So, I do have a couple speaker cards. Um, I'll start with those. If you are here for the public hearing, which is item L1, you can wait and speak during that public hearing. So, this is going to be um just overall public comments. And if I I'll start with Barbara Sundus, but if there's anyone else that wants to come up and speak, you're more than welcome to. So, Barbara, you you know the drill, right, Barbara?

I know the drill and I practiced. Um, my name is Barbara Sundust and I live at 1273 East Cordova Avenue. My plea is the same as last time, the need for a 247 cooling place and also um a an affordable shelter for elderly women. However, tonight I would like to say a gigantic thank you to the citizens of Cassagrand who make an amazing difference in our community. There are six churches who do laundry for the homeless, elderly, and needy families. We are part of a national organization whose motto is love, dignity, and detergent. We do the laundry twice a month and have gone from about $500 six years ago to about $1,900 a time. That means twice a month it's $1,900. My point is that there would not be this wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for the generosity of so many everyday citizens in our community. A huge thank you to Rick Wilson and the Cas Grand Elementary School District for their donation to Laundry Love. He and his helpers give every bit of their recycling money to various city services or organizations including Laundry Love, Seeds of Hope, St. Vincent to Paul food banks and animal shelters. I think I will not stop begging for help for the unhoused and needy because that's my calling. Also, but also know how grateful I am to all those who support our many service organizations. Thank you to Rick and the elementary school district. Thank you to the Elks, the Lady Elks, the Elks, the Catholic Daughters. Thank you to individual donors. You make it possible for us to

be part of the Cass Grand commu. You make me proud to be part of the Cassag Grand community. I met Rick about two Fridays ago and thanked him for his amazing generosity. So, he gives these organizations. We got $2,000. He gives all his money away. Anyway, he said I should spread the word so that people put the plastics and the tin cans and aluminum cans so that they can work harder and give more money away. So, that's what I have to say. But, but I was also cooling place. Thank you.

Thank you, Barbara. Is there anyone else that would like to speak to the council? Hi, Nancy. Good evening. Thank you, city council. Um, I wasn't sure I was going to be able to be here tonight. I had another meeting, but I am able. Um, I come to you tonight. Can you give your name and address for us for the record? Okay.

Yeah. Nancy Wood. Uh, 513 East Beckle Road, Cascran, Arizona. Uh, it's just been a very stressful day for me today. uh not very happy. Uh the reason I come before you tonight is part of the issues that I have with animal control for our city. Uh you know, I've been an advocate for wildlife and animals throughout the city. I've spent many, many hours advocating for the burrowing owls and doing the rescue that needs with the development that we've had in the city. And I've also included any dog, cat, or animal that I run across that needs my help. Uh, in the recent past year, I've had a cat that's come around my property that, uh, is a stray. Uh, it's had health issues and was pretty in bad shape. uh found that uh ended up that it looked like it was really failing and reached out for some help to try and see whether I could get it help. And uh the fact that an animal that's sick in the city could cause problems with other animals and pets that we have in our city. And um I contacted animal control numerous times and never got call backs. even went in and gave them information and didn't get call backs. And you I continued to try and take care of this cat for basically the last six months. It's not one that was friendly. And I got it to finally get close enough to me that it trusted me enough that I was able to catch it Friday and called animal control to get it in because it was healthwise a risk for the whole community being sick. and they came and got it. And I found out I even left a message that please call me back. I had offered to help with medical if it needed it and other things like that. And I found out today when I went

down there after they had not called me back that when they got the cat back, it got out and then got out of animal control. And so now it is lost in a place it doesn't know and is sick and will probably die. And I find that reaching animal controls impossible. All they do is voicemail and they don't call back. This is not acceptable for our city to take care of our animals in our city and keep it safe. Uh I have just a minute. Uh the other thing that is coming up is that uh Vista High School is having their graduation and I hope that the city can look out for the owls along Arizona that they don't get run over in the BMS that the people in the city will look out for that and be uh careful. Uh I am no longer going to be volunteering for stuff. I've kind of had it. uh this was really hurtful after spending six months taking care of this animal and to have this happen and just not acceptable. Thank you.

Thank you, Nancy. Nancy, we can have like Stephen, do you want to follow up with her? Our deputy manager will follow up with you. Um anyone else? Okay, we'll go ahead and close the public comments and move forward with the next item on the agenda, which is item L1. So, um, we will start. Um, James, are you going to start with this one? Yes. All right. L1. Actually, I'm going to be presenting both L1 and L2. Okay. as one presentation

and then you'll have an opportunity to vote on them separately. Okay.

So L1 and L2 in front of you this evening pertains to villages at McCartney Ranch. We're going to be talking about DSA 2500133 which is technically L2 the PA AD amendment and zone change and then also DSA supposed to be 2500134 the minor general plan amendment that is necessary in order to consider the zone change but this is involving approximately 75 acres located at the southeast corner of McCartney and Panel. I first want to give a little history about McCartney Ranch and specifically McCartney Ranch 2. From 2005 to 2021, village or excuse me, McCartney Ranch 2 was a P A zone that ran from Panel to the west to TKLE to the east south McCartney Road with the El Paso Kinder Morgan Gas Rightway being its southern border. During that time frame, there was 36 acres entitled for commercial use at the hard corner of McCartney and Panel. And then south of there, there was just over 23 acres that was designated for multifamily, allowing up to eight dwelling units per acre. It was a medium density um entitlement, but it extended south to the El Paso Kinder Morgan gas tract. if it were to build at its maximum of eight dwelling units per acre, it that area could yield about 188 dwelling units. Then in 2022, there was a a flurry of activity in this

area. So all but the 34 acre corner um was zoned to R2 which had conditions of record entitling all but that 34 acres to um be developed for um single family residential with primarily 45 foot wide lots, 5,000 square foot minimum lot sizes with the exception of some parcels to the south that bordered the El Paso Kinder Morgan gas tract. Um there's an area there to the south which I'll discuss in greater detail, but they have more restrictive standards. But the 34 acres um of P A that is currently in place is entitled for 11 acres for commercial use and just shy of 23 acres for multifamily allowing up to 25 dwelling units per acre which if it were to develop at that density would yield about 568 total units. So, what's being proposed now is to expand that PAD to about 75 acres. And I'm going to walk through the changes with you, but it would be basically um incorporating some of the property that is presently zoned R2 into the P A. There's about 38 acres 38.7 acres proposed for commercial purposes. So just about three acres more than what the commercial acreage was from 2005 to 2021. And then there's 36.1 acres proposed for

residential land use. Parcel one would have a density of 20 dwelling units per acre, but parcel five is not proposed now to be multifamily. It would be loted into single family lots. So counting both parcel one and parcel five, it would at a maximum yield 556 units, but down from the most recent approved and currently approved P A. And I do want to note that with parcel 5 proposing a small lot single family development, only 15 acres is entitled for multifamily. So it's a reduction in acreage and in density for multifamily. What's really driving this change is activity that is proposed on the area encased in the black square known as commercial A. It's a 27.8 acre area at the hard corner because Walmart has interested has interest in acquiring that acreage. to develop a the second Walmart in the in the community. Along with that, there's eight pad lots that would be proposed lining the Walmart along Panel and McCartney for additional commercial opportunity. With what's known as a big box being proposed for that area, the developer considered adding some additional ancillary commercial uses along the panel frontage um areas known as commercial B and C to speak to the fact that panel is a state route and so that there wasn't

residential development immediately abuing that state highway, but then to serve as a buffer between the U commercial uses primarily that would be seen at commercial A because it's probably the most intense of the area. It's at the hard corner. You're going to have what's known as the big box there, the Walmart. They were proposing the residential area as a buffer between it and the remnant of McCartney Ranch, which is now all zoned R2. Everything in white will still stay R2 zoned. So parcels one and five are primarily intended to work as a transition from the single family areas to the commercial areas closer to Panel and McCartney. And I also want to add that um there's an extension of two collectors proposed through the area. There would be Carol Avenue which would separate commercial A and parcel one from commercial B and parcel 5. And then Palm Avenue is also proposed as an extension which would separate um the single family area that has yet to be constructed there along the south. Um it would it would provide a a collector road separation between that area and and the parcel five and the commercial. And then it would also be used as a separation between commercial B and C. Here's a a perspective also that I wanted to show looking south. Um so commercial A is is just shy of 27 acres. On the other side of McCartney, which you see on on the screen there is the um

Fry Marketplace. That's approximately 21 acres. So it it's just about 6 to 7 acres larger than the Fry Shopping Center. just just to put the the proposals in perspective. Commercial C I want to uh spend just a moment to talk about because it's the area closest to um the Coyote Ranch neighborhood which sits to the south of the El Paso Kinder Morgan Gas Tract. Um because that's a commercial area closest to Coyote Ranch. Um there has been some changes between what was presented to planning commission and now. Um what had always or what had been in place at the time of planning commission was a 25 ft maximum height for anything built within commercial C as well as a 45 foot minimum setback from its south and east property boundary because keep in mind there's there's proposed R2 just to the east. So, so there's a buffer um that helps with the single family development just beyond the commercial area to the to the right or to the east as well as um to provide a buffer to the neighborhood to the south. But what has changed is gas stations are now prohibited in in commercial area C as well as car washes. And then I do want to speak to the fact that the reason for the 25- foot maximum height limitation in commercial C is it speaks to the fact that the most southern single family lots planned within the area not changing in the area that's currently zoned R2 have a

condition of record restricting um those homes to singlestory and 25 foot height. And then I do want to just call into perspective the El Paso Kinder Morgan gas tract a bit. So it is 310 ft um sitting north of Coyote Ranch. It it's owned by Kinder Morgan or El Paso Gas. Um and so it's it's not an easement. It's owned by that gas company and and they have a lot of limitations in terms of how that area could be used. And so everything that we're speaking tonight lies north of that. But to put put things into perspective, Panel Avenue, State Route 387 is um 250 ft. And and and actually it's a little bit narrower um in most places, but at at its widest through there, it's approximately 250 ft. So the gap between Coyote Ranch and what we're proposing this evening is further away than what lies on the other side of Panel Avenue from Coyote Ranch. And then this is another perspective um looking west or northwest and and and how that easement sits with relation to the P A. I'm not finished walking through the the changes, but I'm almost there. So, I talked about the commercial quite a bit. But now back to the residential parcel one, which sits just to the south of McCartney to the east of commercial A, is a 15.5 acre area, which does have the flexibility in the proposal to develop as individual lot development for single

family. However, the request does allow it also to develop as a multifamily product at a density not greater than 20 dwelling units per acre. That would yield a maximum of 310 multifamily units. But things to keep in mind, the development would have to um have provide a minimum of 20% open space. Um, one change that was was not discussed at planning commission was putting a story cap to it of two um at 28 ft. But when you're looking at um regardless of that density of 20 dwelling units per acre, when you have to provide for the required parking for the open space of 20% whatever retention drainage needs there are and you're limited to two stories, it's likely that it wouldn't um develop at the 20 dwelling units per acre. It would it would likely come under. However, anything's possible with the right design. Um but some examples of a 20 dwelling unit per acre or less um twostory multifamily um development are shown here both on the top and bottom. And then with regard to parcel 5, it is now proposed not to be multifamily. So that's another update from when planning commission heard that heard this um in April. Parcel 5 is a 20.6 acre area, but it's being proposed as a medium density single family loted parcel for detached homes. Multifamily land use would be prohibited here and it would provide a minimum of 40 foot lot widths at a

minimum lot size of 3,200 square feet. So, it's it's um it provides for some smaller loting than the R2, which sits to the east and to the south. Um, but it is there to serve as a transition between the commercial uses and the rest of the single family area while maintaining a single family development in that it would be loted and it would provide for sale homes. It too would be subject to 20% open space with a maximum of two stories and 28 feet. And I and I should say too that um 28 ft is the maximum height for the rest of the uh R2 area sitting between it and TKEL with the exception of those lots just to the north of the El Paso gas line which is limited to 25 ft. Some examples of what a 40 foot wide, 3200 square foot lot would look like are provided here. And then I have a a separate slide. Um, of course those trees look pretty young in in these pictures, but this is an example of homes being accommodated on 40 foot wide lots of a similar lot size and a typical plot plan. um and a and a typical loting of a neighborhood that you see to the right. So, I gave an overview of the zoning, but in order for the zoning to be considered, we also have to talk about the um proposed amendment to the Kasa Grande general plan. So, the existing land use designation in this area is community corridor with neighborhoods surrounding it. And the proposal is to

expand the community corridor general plan designation to include what you see to the right. The reason for the request is that the neighborhoods category, the yellow that you currently see is predominantly intended for um a lower density single family residential type development pattern. um neighborhoods does allow commercial development on sites not greater than 30 acres and it does also allow multifamily at certain site sizes. But what the community corridor achieves is the allowance for there to be the um totality of the commercial that's being proposed on the site. the the the 37 plus minus acres. And then the ability for um parcel five to and parcel one should it develop as single family to have a um greater than 4.5 dwelling unit per acre density. Um which neighborhoods limits single family development to that density. It can't exceed that. And this just captures what I just um spoke about. However, just some other details about the community corridor. It is considered the most appropriate for mixeduse zone districts and um it does have a lot of character elements uh that could be incorporated as part of that peed as a whole. When looking at at general plan amendments, um there is some specific goals that I want to speak to within the community corridor category. One of the goals talks about promoting diverse business, retail, and office uses. Um the action step that

speaks to that is encouraging mixeduse commercial and retail to create a higher density of uses along major corridors. With both McCartney and Panel having interchanges with I 10, it does make sense to um to entitle that area with a mixture of uses uh where that corridor can can be of benefit and vice versa. And then another goal is to promote Kasa Grande's identity by creating gateways at major entryways to the city. Um creating development opportunities for larger retailers such as Walmart. And an another action step is to connect gateways to trails as designated in the regional trails plan. So, I I bring this up simply because uh a later slide we'll get into it, but um there was the initial idea to run a trail through the El Paso Kinder Morgan tract. However, they they do not uh have a policy that allows that. So, the city's gas line trail, as it's known, will actually run through McCartney Ranch. So even though the majority of that area is not changing zoning, a lot of it is still in the R2 zone, the part that is being proposed as expanded P A shows the incorporation of that trail through the PA AD as it continues through the R2 area. The applicant did provide justification for all of the criteria um that is evaluated for general plan amendments. Um and and that can be found in the staff report. And staff is uh staff did recommend to planning commission uh approval of the general plan amendment. And on a vote of 4 to two, they did forward a

recommendation for council to approve the general plan amendment. But now on to the PA AD amendment, which I gave you a pretty good background to. Um the the criteria that gets evaluated to determine if a PA AD amendment is adequate are identified below. And I want to talk about the highlighted items here with regard to the relationship to surrounding uses. Um this is a a fairly blank slate. You know, it's a lot of acreage sitting between panel and TKEL that's undeveloped. Um I do want to speak to the fact that on the west side of panel you have a string of commercial uses and then on the north side of McCartney you have Fry Marketplace but then of course as you go more east you go into a residential area. Um but the area with the most concern would be the existing Coyote Ranch and Cornerstone Ranch neighborhoods to the south of the Kinderborg and El Paso gas line tract. Um in that it it has the potential to be the most impacted by what gets proposed on the other side of that gas line. And so I I did already speak to it, but that is why commercial C um which is the area closest that's that's changing um does have the specific um development restrictions that it has. Um, I do want to note that the rest of the commercial areas, that which sits north of Palm and Carol, its maximum height would be 35 feet, which is which is typical for for commercial zones, but commercial C would be limited to a maximum height of 25. And it would and it does again have a buffer of 45 ft from its south boundary and from its east boundary. So when you think about it, no building in parcel C can be

closer from the nearest the nearest single family property in Coyote Ranch would sit 355 ft away from any building in commercial sea. Um and then this also does help show what I was speaking to about the trail. Um instead of a trail running within the Kinder Morgan gas line tract, um there are plans to run a trail uh from TKEL over to Panel. And that trail would be used to serve as a buffer between the 65 foot wide lot area to the east and commercial C. And it also serves as an additional buffer um between commercial activity and and that gas line. With regard to conformance with city zoning, we do have a site plan and a plat under administrative review. Of course, action cannot be taken on it until um the general plan and zoning has been amended to allow uh this type of development. But we do have a site plan for parcel A and the what's proposed in the P AD um does meet the various uh standards by which PEDs have to be reviewed by. I do want to talk about the fact that within parcel A there would be a total of based on the site plan we know there's 212,000 square foot of total retail space. Um, the anchor store, Walmart, is approximately 182,000 square feet. In our city code, that's enough square footage for this to qualify as a large

singleuse shopping center. And for large single-use shopping centers, they can only take place in PADs. and there's a set of criteria that have to be met unless um exceptions or departures from those standards are sought. And so the applicant did um request a series of departures from those code standards which planning commission did agree with and as as part of their recommendation to council um on a vote of 4 to2 were okay with these exceptions. But but really for the large shopping centers, there is typically a requirement for a specific minimum distance away uh from a shopping center and um and and the property lines. And so they're basically asking for an exception to that. Um, for example, there should be a 60 foot wide buffer that should be provided along all property lines that abut residential and they're proposing 45 ft as exampam as an example. And then um the the staff report dives into the other um exceptions that are requested, but essentially the justification is is that the the adjacent residential that it's providing a buffer from is within the PAD itself and it's also at a greater than a traditional single family density and so therefore the the justification should be there um because it it doesn't inherently have to provide as much buffering for something of of a slightly higher intensity. In terms of

the impact of the plan on existing and anticipated traffic, there was a master traffic report provided by Y2K Engineering for the review by both ADOT, Arizona Department of Transportation and the city traffic engineer. Um after various reviews of the report, it is approvable. However, minor modifications are still being discussed between the applicant and the reviewers. Um all site plans and platin AD would require uh their own traffic report and traffic impact analysis. So this master report would need to be approved prior to any development. There is a recommended condition that was um considered by planning commission and it's being carried forward to city council with regard to traffic which is developers of any portion of the peed that requires construction of the east leg of palm. So any any portion of palm east of panel will be responsible for contributing to the costs of the traffic signal at panel and palm unless the signal has already been constructed prior to their development. With regard to open space or public land dedications, um as as part of the the zone change, there's also an ordinance uh condition that would require the dedication of rideofway if dedication of rightway is necessary for a public project. Um however there already has been rightway dedication um specifically for McCartney and Panel. The state highway is of adequate right ofway with for improvements to take place associated with what the traffic report demonstrates needs to be improved to accommodate the trips generated and the

traffic generated by this proposed development. Um here is an aerial view of the recent McCartney Road improvements. Um what's interesting if you look closely here um you can see the gray curb lines that are being added to show its widening. Um, McCartney is designated as a principal arterial which um which requires 140 ft rightway width and I just wanted to and it's don't don't study this too hard but just to color in basically the future improvements. It'll be two lanes in each direction. Um, but this is just a quick and dirty visual to show you just how it will generally be modified. If you look too closely, you would be like, "That's not wide enough for a travel lane." But it's just to give you an idea that it would be two lanes in each direction with the center median. Regarding the notification process, um it did start back in late October. Um, as part of the city code requirement, there was notification mailed to owners of property within a,000 ft of the PED boundary with the intention to gather feedback to be relayed to the applicant to address concerns as part of the review. Um, within that notice, there was a web link provided with access to the the plans and the PA AD guide. There was an email that was received from an owner within Coyote Ranch with concerns about the proximity of the expanded commercial area near the neighborhood. And then once this um was scheduled for public hearings, there was additional public notification uh including notification in the paper and two public hearing signs.

Uh and then when public hearing notification was mailed to the same owners of property, uh we did start receiving um more correspondence from from the community with concerns uh primarily regarding the multifamily. Um but there was other concerns such as the traffic increase. Uh there were some comments regarding the design of the commercial and at planning commission that was really made known that there there were a myriad of concerns and and although planning commission did forward a recommendation to council to approve the P8 and general plan amendment, it was also advised that there should be a uh and there was a a neighborhood meeting basically in the works or underway. And so, um, that didn't take place until after planning commission, but before city council this evening, the the neighborhood meeting was held on April 30th. It was held by the applicant with Coyote Ranch and Cornerstone um to hear their specific concerns and to to get an idea of what could and should be modified. and and as a result um between that meeting and then just further discussion with the city, the primary changes was eliminating the multifamily land use in parcel 5. That's the area closest to the Coyote Ranch neighborhood and um entitling that for a an area to be laotted as a single family detached neighborhood. Um and then stipulating that in either of the residential parcels the number of stories would be limited to two at a height of 28 ft. And then the other significant change was adding some additional restricted prohibited uses or or declaring certain

uses that would be prohibited in that commercial area C. And then I do like to say just kind of for more of the public benefit because um since site plans and plats are no longer subject to public hearings um regarding the next steps and just to clarify some some points is um should the general plan and P Amendment be approved this evening, they would be on to site plan consideration and plat reviews which are administrative but items items reviewed administratively are subject to public notification nonetheless and it's sent to surrounding property owners and and we encourage the recipients of that public notice to be a part of the review process to provide comments by along with the other internal reviewers so that all of those comments can be bundled and sent to the applicant and with the expectation for the applicant to at least respond to what they may or may not be changing as a result of the input received. And if necessary, there could be a neighborhood meeting scheduled at the request of the planner. Um, but I do want to clarify though that the the zoning isn't just use. It also sets forth maximum heights and minimum setbacks. And so if a site plan were to come in or a plat were to come in and it's for something that exceeds the maximum height per the P A or is sitting closer to the property line than what's stated in the prop in the P A um or or there's a different there's a deviation in the amount of parking that they're allowed to have. All those things would require an amendment to the

zoning which does still remain a public hearing. Um so just just to clarify that and so there there would always still be public hearings if anything um in the PAD changed with regard to a development standard as well as a use. So with that um I already mentioned it but it specifically with regard to the general plan DSA 2500134 planning commission did move to forward to city council a recommendation to approve the um general plan allowing community corridor in place of neighborhoods. And um that would have to be a separate uh motion. But also in terms of the PED and zoning recommendation, planning commission also did forward to city council a motion to approve on a vote of 4 to2 a recommendation to approve the P AD zoning um subject to the following two conditions of record. And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you, James. I need a drink of water. I'll I'll I'll I'll sip while you're asking.

Thank you. No, really, thank you for that thorough presentation and, you know, just appreciate you going through all of the history and um also just the the process on how things work. Um because a lot of people don't really understand and especially the changes with the legislature as far as not having public hearings. So, that's not something that we want it. you know, we want public hearings, but unfortunately that change was made with the legislature. So now, like like James says, you know, moving forward, these site plans are going to come before or they're going to be administrative um approvals. However, we are going to continue to, you know, um reach out to the public. So, we encourage people to give feedback um before we approve all of those site plans. But, but I appreciate you going through that process as well as the traffic analysis. We get a lot of questions on that and also the gas um the Kinder Morgan gas line and explaining that whole thing. So, appreciate that. So, we'll go ahead. Um I know the applicant would like to present also. Is there are there any questions from the council at this point or are you okay to move forward?

I I just had Can you go back to one of your SLI slides that go back to the um where the zoning is at now with the acreage? Okay. My screen went off. Wrote it down. The you said the area looks like number uh number slide two and three. Okay. I just wanted to get some go back. Go back two. Go back one right there.

Go back one more. So this was 2005 21. Okay. And then where we're at now with the original and then go back. So go one more slide forward and that's what we have now. Correct. Okay. I got the numbers I was looking for. Thank you. Yeah. No problem. Um Bob, did you have a question? Yeah. And and I think it's based on your third to the last slide. It's one that shows the community corridor, I believe. on top of the uh gas line.

Yes, it's that is good memory. That is correct. Yeah. Uh so does that affect the uh Kinder Morgan's uh rules on the gas line or because we say it's community corridor because I noticed one of your other maps showed the trail uh running across that same section,

right? So the the trail cannot go through there for certain. It will be running through technically parcel the their commercial area C just to the north. Um but a little quick history as to how how that is why that's zone categorized community corridor is that there was a time prior to the various changes in zoning to McCartney Ranch where that panel corridor in its entirety from north of Coyote Ranch was placed in the community corridor and and it it was kind of irrespective of what zoning was there or how it was used, what type of easement was there. It was just if it fronted panel, it got put into the community corridor. Um and then there was a a period of time where um with the request of the villages at McCartney Ranch that was approved in 2022, they didn't need to uh benefit from all of that canal corridor to be in community corridor because they were they if you remember they scaled it back quite a bit and they had a lot of single family sitting north of the um gas line up to their PA AD. And so they put it into neighborhoods, but they didn't have the ability to change Kinder Morgan's designation. Only Kinder Morgan has the ability to change Kinder Morgan's designation or the city. It's kind of irrelevant, though, because um however it's it's designated in the general plan uh doesn't prevent someone from using the land how it's presently zoned. It would only be if for some reason the zoning needed to change to something whether or not it was compliant with the general plan would prompt an amendment.

And since Kinder Morgan's just in the business of gas um they're they don't really have need to change the general plan designation or zoning I should say. So would would the trail end up running over Kinder Morgan's? No. No. So it would actually be a little bit north. Yes, it is planned for the north. Okay. So not exactly as shown, but kind of Oh, and that that picture shows it. Yeah. Okay. I think I understand. Yeah. So it won't be in that 310 350 area.

It hit along the com that area. Yeah. When it drops down more like won't it won't be in that. Okay. More like this one that you're showing now. I got it. Okay. Yeah, that other picture showed a little different. Any other questions now or we'll go ahead and move on? Got one question just real quick, James. Um we're going or as we sit right now, we got 22.74 acres, multif family, that's 560 total units. Um and we're going proposed here 15.5 acres has a density of 20 per acre. And how many units would be in that? I think I remember 300. 310. Okay. Yeah, that's it.

That was it.

Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll go ahead. Thank you again, James. And we'll go ahead and turn it over to um the applicant, CVL. So, welcome. Thanks for being here. All right. Good evening, mayor. Um, members of the council, thank you for hearing our case this evening. My name is Julie Vermillion with the applicant CVL Consultants located at 4550 North 12th Street in Phoenix. With me this evening is also um representatives of the ownership uh with GDC. Uh, thank you so much for the thorough presentation, Jim. Um, out of respect for your time, I'll try my best to skip over some duplicate slides so you know where the site's located. You know the general plan and the zoning. He already did the comparison for you. So, here's our site plan. This gives a little more information. Uh you can see we have our large commercial corner A uh B and C along Panel Avenue. I would like to note that uh commercial C was um in the last iteration of this plan the 2022 portion of commercial C it was uh intended for a water campus for Arizona water. Um that would have been water tanks that could have easily been you know 30 feet in height and I know water tanks could be maybe 30 or 40 in reservoirs. Um, so this 25 foot height restriction is an improvement from the prior approval and this commercial use and we are limiting that to uh exclude car wash, fuel station and convenience uses um to be a little more friendly with the neighbors to the south. Um, we're also restricting it to having no

loading or delivery hours from 1000 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. Um, after communicating with the neighbors, we know that that was something that was a concern. And then we also have a building setback that Jim mentioned of 45 feet. So that'll be 45 feet from the property line. That's where that trail is going to go through. It's going to be a 20- foot tro corridor within that 45 ft buffer. Um I'd also like to touch on parcel 5. So previously when we first submitted this, we were anticipating the potential to develop it as multif family. After discussion with the neighbors, it's clear that um single family would be more amendable. So, we decided to move forward with a 35 foot lot width. Um after speaking with council members Herman and Millan, it was clear that um a larger lot size would u be more appreciated. So, we're moving forward with a 40 foot 40 foot minimum lot width. Um and that would allow for um the products that Jim showed. So, it's a very popular lot size throughout the valley and very popular um with home builders right now. Again, that's a single family detached product. So, that's limited to two stories um 28 ft. Um so, that's going to be a little more agreeable to the neighbors to the south. Um, I'd also like to note that with this reduction to the 40 foot minimum lot width and the single family detached, I mean, we would be lucky to lot this out and get six or seven dwelling units to the acre. So, this is a, you know, big um decrease from what was initially proposed. Uh, we would estimate this would be maybe 130 uh 30 lots or so. um once we develop it and u make some room for retention. Let's see. Oh, while we're on this slide, I'd also like to note that uh

commercial A is approximately a third of a mile from the neighbors to the south, the Coyote Ranch development. Um and parcel 5 is approximately 1,100 square feet. So that's slightly over three football fields away from uh the Coyote Ranch to the south. So, we have plenty of buffers here from those uses. I wanted to highlight these development standards that we're proposing. Um, for the multif family residential, of course, we're limiting parcel one to 12 20 dwelling units per acre and we're explicitly stating that multif family is not permitted on parcel 5. Again, we have that 28 foot twotory limitation and our um buffer around let's see from arterial and collector roadways it's going to be 15 ft for the multif family single family residential was uh not contemplated in the 2022 PA. This is a new table that we're proposing uh specifically for parcel 5 and for parcel one if we were to develop that as single family. So, this gives us a little more flexibility um to propose um single family on this P A. Again, there's that 40 foot minimum lot size, that 28 foot twotory minimum height restriction or maximum height restriction. And then we have 15 foot setbacks from collector roads and 25 foot from arterial for buffering around parcel 5 or parcel one should it develop single family. These are our commercial development standards. Um, we have slightly different maximum height for A and B and commercial C. You can see A and B is 35. Commercial C is limited to 25 out of respect for our neighbors to the south. And we have that 45 foot buffer

explicitly listed in the development standards. And this table pretty much reiterates that information. I would like to note that parcel one that maximum density of 20 would allow for town homes single family attached or detached. Um that's all possible products that we could build on that parcel. And then parcel 5 again is limited to single family uh detached. Here's a detail identifying that gas easement that Jim discussed. So, it's a combined 355 ft from Coyote Ranch to where the building closest building would be on Commercial Ca. Uh, you can see how that's laid out in the elevation. Um, you can see that 45 foot building set back um on the right with that 20 foot trail corridor. It's going to be landscaped and it'll provide a nice buffer. I'd also like to note we have that 25 foot building height uh limitation and then that southern boundary of parcel 5 being approximately three football fields away from Coyote Ranch as well. And this is just for clarification. It's just an illustration identifying, you know, exactly how that would be compared to a football field. Hopefully that'll bring a little more clarity to the the scale that we're looking at here. Just to touch on traffic quickly. I know it was mentioned as a prior concern. Um, as we all know, the city's currently undergoing construction of the full width of McCartney Road um between Panel Avenue and the I10. Um, this development of McCartney Ranch was considered um when those designs uh were under review and completed. So this has been anticipated by the city and it's been contemplated along with um their improvement projects and per city

requirements um we had a traffic engineer prepare a traffic impact analysis that we will be following the recommendations of and the city's traffic engineer has evaluated that analysis and approved it. Um, as part of that analysis, we would agree to um building that traffic signal at Palm A, internal subdivision roadways, dedicated right and left turn lanes as needed, and then a third northbound uh lane on Panal um in conjunction with working with the city on their projects. I'd like to touch on a few benefits of this proposal. Um, of course, we're establishing the zoning for this large uh commercial corner um with plenty of opportunities for retail and restaurants and other services. Um, obviously that would uh generate employment opportunities and job creation, facilitate growth in this area. Um, residential parcels 1 and five, we plan specifically to serve as a transition between this new commercial development and the previously planned subdivision. Um so we believe that it's a appropriate land use uh all around and then we're accommodating that El Paso trail easement which is part of the city's master plan um to make sure that we have that trail connectivity throughout the site. This is just one last view and I'm available to answer any questions.

Thank you very much. Okay, any additional questions right now? We'll go ahead and open the the hearing. Um and so but see if you have any questions again. Okay. I sure just a quick one. How far did you you kind of restore it pretty fast? You said 1,000 feet from Cody Ranch to parcel 5 or how many? Yes. So from that southern boundary of parcel 5 that you can see on the map. It's 1,100 ft approximately. So just over three football fields. Just over three football fields. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and open the public hearing. I do have um two speaker cards. Um, but again, anyone can get up. Uh, I do have someone that filled out the in g me gave me the instructions instead of their name. So, if in you have in your hand the actual speaker card, um, you're you're I I don't have your information. So, take a look at your card. But the first one I'll start with is Curt Bower.

Hi there, Kurt. Hi. How are you doing?

My name is Kurt Bower. 228 East Pebble Court, Kasa Grande. Well, dear mayor and member of the city council and staff, I am writing to formally express my opposition to the proposed zoning changes for the development at the intersection of panel and McCartney. While my own residence is not directly affected, I believe this project is not in the best interest of the community. Although the developer highlighted potential crop jobs creation, increased tax revenue, the primary focus appears to be financial gain of the developers and the anchor store rather than the well-being of the local residents. During my interaction with the developers at the meeting on uh two weeks ago, I found the approach dismissive of our actual concerns. When asked if the project plans were finalized, the representatives stated they were subject to change based on the requirements of future buyers. Furthermore, the current plans specify patio homes, which appear to be rental units in practice, not homes for buying. Significant concerns regarding lights pollution, delivery truck emissions, and security for adjoining properties remain unressed. I urge you to take a stand against the corporate interests that do not prioritize prioritize our community needs. Please deny the request zoning changes to preserve the character of Kasa Grande. We're kind of at a disadvantage when we're given this opportunity, which is a great opportunity. We met with the developers two weeks

ago, and they gave us no further plants. They're saying, "We're just here to hear your concerns." Well, it's hard to come back here and express more of our concerns when we don't know what they're giving us. They didn't give us any changes. We've asked for changes and they kind of stonewalled us. They said, "Well, yeah, we don't know yet." So, this develop development is up for sale obviously. So, whoever buys it next might not want to comply with their standards or their outlines progressing. And the earlier speaker mentioned 360 ft. Is that 360 feet including the gas line and their pathway? Because their pathway is not going along the gas line. It appears to be going along a street and then meeting back up with the gas line. So they're 360 feet. I'm not sure what they're trying to get at. And for the noise pollution, they were talking about commercial C and not the whole project. That was my understanding. That's what I thought I heard.

Thank you. Thank you, Kurt. Um, can the applicant just confirm a couple things? First, he said that they weren't notified of the changes prior to tonight. Didn't Did I hear you? I I thought that you sent out something to the HOA. Um, okay. Yes. Um, there was an email to the HOA with this updated plan that was sent out in advance. Was it last week? The 11th around then. Okay. Okay. Um,

okay. And then there was another question that he asked about, can you clarify that 300 foot? Um, you know, were were you asking about does it go up to where does it what what? Yeah. Can you explain this?

Yes. So that dimension is just for clarity on how far the building in commercial se would be. the closest possible building we could build would be 355 ft away from the northern wall of Coyote Ranch. Um so that uh that distance that expanses between the northern wall of Coyote Ranch that would include the gas easement that would include the trail corridor and um along with that the building set back the additional 45 foot right is that where you uh correct I think it's important to note that there's a wall at the gas easement or the gas line property and then the trails on the north side of the wall. Right. Correct. Yes. Thank you for clarifying that. You're right. There's a wall

and that's just at commercial at the commercial lot commercial. Once you get into the residential next to it, it goes up that that trail is not there. It's it would be the housing. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um so I have uh is there someone else that filled out a card that you may have taken the wrong side of it? Um is there or is there anyone that would like to come up and speak? Sure. Come on up.

Yeah, no worries. Um, come on up and if you can give your name and address. Uh, Kim Isam, Cassag Grandandy, Arizona. Um, PS. I did not get this. Don't have a clue. Um, I'm going to speak about first, uh, thank you for your divine patience for putting up with all my emails. I'm surprised you didn't all block me. Um, but it did they all did come from the heart. I'm not going to stand here and go over every single opposition. The laundry list is too long to list. I will say this though, we can all agree that that is one valuable piece of property. It's beautiful. That's a that's our that is our gateway. That's truly our gateway. I think we can all agree on that. I want I have this vision of it being picturesque like Cassag Grandandy Lakes, Kanig, Cornerstone, um I just even Coyote Ranch. Why can't we why can't we do another Coyote Ranch? You have the power to do that. With that said, we're going to talk multif family. We're oversaturated. You know, I went and visited 2,000 units last week. I put it in my my second email. We're way oversaturated. They're not filled at all. Based on that fact, you know that Garrett specializes in multif family housing. And I feel that they are exploiting our community by increasing the density exponentially. I gave you the numbers what I what I went and saw. Not only that, they are also

circumventing the assured water supply laws put into place by the Arizona Department of Resources. We have it there for a reason. Well, knowing full well they they know we only have one resource. It's our groundwater, but that's it. With that said, I implore you, please do not be fooled by this attempt to exploit our city for financial gain. I believe that we can be actually we can find a more a more mindful developer that will work with us that will work with the city to develop a more traditional neighborhood traditional neighborhoods. That's that's what I want. I know that's what we want. With that said, I'm going to ask you please go back. That's it. Tell everybody go back to the drawing board. No. No. And heck no. We don't want any of this. No. Thank you. With respect. Thank you, Ken. Okay. Let's see. Is there anyone else that would like to speak?

Oh. It's taking me a while to get up there.

Good evening, mayor and council. My name is Debbie Yoast. I live at 334 East Cornerstone Circle in Coyote Ranch. I've been a resident and a real estate broker here in Kasa Grande for almost 50 years. First, I sincerely appreciate the council members listening to our concerns, the concerns expressed by my neighbors both at the planning and zoning meeting and at the neighborhood development meeting that we had. I especially appreciate the removal of parcel 5 and the apartments from that. That shows a willingness to listen and be concerned about the citizens concerns. However, I still oppose this project as presented tonight. James, you did a great job of giving us history on this parcel and I want to review that for a second. From 2005 to 2021, this property was planned with commercial at the hard corner only of Panel and McCartney. Then it was residential extending south toward the gas easement and west to panel. That zoning allowed for medium density single family homes at 4.5 dwellings per acre. That's about 10,000 square foot per lot. Right during that time period, most of the homes in Coyote Ranch were built. And these homeowners that are here understood that we were going to have single family homes to the north with the exception of commercial on the corner. In 2022, a pad was approved, increasing the density dramatically. I never was notified about that and I can guarantee you the rest of the citizens that live in Coyote Ranch, if we had known we'd been here, we would be here at that point. We didn't. Um, the proposal that you have before you tonight increases the density

dramatically, even further by proposing small lots and more apartments. 556 home sites, of which 310 can be multifamily. Did you happen to notice the ad that came out today from Agavei reducing the fourbedroom rental price to $1,600? We don't need anymore. If you approve this tonight, we're looking at lot sizes as low as $3,200 square ft and 40 feet wide. How wide is this building? 35 to 40 feet. That's what we're talking about. We don't need that here. Parcel 5, 246 units. That's what can go on there. And I appreciate that they said that it could be reszoned and it could be single family. Come on, folks. We know they don't go backwards. If you approve this zoning with this density tonight, we won't see a a smaller lot uh larger lot sizes in the future. It'll stay that way. And in addition, the applicant is even requesting that you reduce the requirements for a big box store. I'll finish real quickly. Why are we moving toward tiny lots and congestion in Kasa Grande? I understand they want to buffer between commercial and between residential. We have great examples between Florence Boulevard and Mission Royale. There's no apartments there. I respectfully urge you tonight to either deny this or table it and send it back for a design that more adequately reflects the wishes of the citizens of this town and the neighborhoods. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay. Did you want to say something? Go ahead. Peter and Cena uh 700 East Rodeo Road. So I live on Rodeo and Trekle and I can only speak from experience to this situation. I grew up in a small uh agricultural town called Chandler. It was Chandler. Yeah, man. You know, back in the day when you ride in the back of a pickup truck, no problem, no seat belt, you know. It was just a small town. I mean 202 freeway was Price Road. We rode uh quads and dirt bikes where China mall is. And I I I' I've seen these changes, people coming to these to these meetings and saying, "We don't like it. That's this is the way we like it to be. We love this city the way it is." But I can just like I said, speak from experience to to watch Chandler grow. I've been here four years now and I love this city. I love to see what's going on. And I know not everybody's always going to be happy with the changes and and the you know the multifamily buildings and stuff like that, but what's coming to it if you if I look back on or now what Chandler is now, what it's become with these changes, not everybody's going to be happy, but it's a beautiful city. It's beautiful. I love going there to visit. My family's still there. I got family there in in the um in the downtown area and um in Gilbert as well, but in in the city, I just watched it to what it is now. You can go drive through there and see the beautiful buildings, the the homes, the apartments. Again, it's not always going to be to everybody's liking. Not everybody's going to be happy. I understand the people at Kywood Ranch. I live right by you guys. I live down the street. But I think this is going to be a great a great um decision if you guys do vote yes. Like I said, change isn't always going to be good. Um, but I'm going off the experience of what I see my old city, what it turned into, an amazing, beautiful, powerful

city with great leadership there now, leading it going forward. And we have great leaders here before us. And I believe that they'll make the right decision that the city is growing. It's going in a new direction. And again, we do love Cassandr. And like I said, it was the farming community used to be, but we're going in a different direction. I think I think it's a good direction. Not again, not everybody's going to be happy, but I'm coming here to tell you I I I'm for it. And so hopefully you guys will decide on as well. Thank you. Thank you. Any other Sure. Come on up. If you give your name and address, please.

Good afternoon. Good evening. My name is Larry Reid. I live at 240 East Pebble Trail in Kas in Kasagran. Uh, I've been here for going on two years now. I love this town. Beautiful. What I don't like is this parcel 5 with 40 foot lots reminds me of what I see across from Safeway on TKLE and Cottonwood. little tiny houses that uh they're not attractive. There's no room between between the houses. They may be single family, but there's no room in them. That's not what we need here. I am not happy personally with the trail that goes down to the lower side of of uh commercial sea. All I see in that because my background in law enforcement is problems that has to do with uh problems with crud, litter, uh people sleeping overnight next to the bushes, jumping over uh retaining whale walls, whatever they are. Uh it's just a mess. I would please ask you to take better consideration into this. Don't allow the those single family homes that you can't even camp in the the size of the lot. Thank you.

Thank you. Good evening everyone. I'm Tom M is 183 East Cornerstone Circle out at Coyote Ranch. Um they were talking about the keeping the homes off of Panal. Cass Granny Lakes has homes along Panal. Cali Ranch has homes along Panal. Vago has homes along panal. I think it's a good idea just keep homes along panal. Like Debbie Yo said there was only the hard corner there originally and there were homes along panal. I don't think there's a problem with that. I think we should keep the homes along panal. I think we should keep especially commercial sea away from Cornerstone or Cody Ranch. We only, like my wife said, we only have one source of water in this town. And if they're going to build tiny homes in parcel 5 and they're going to rent them out, they're circumventing the assured water supply rules. And the apartments, we looked at them 10 days ago all around Cass Granny. There's 2,000 units going up. either they've been built the last two years or they're going to be completed in 2027. That's 22,000 new units on top of all the other apartments that we've had for decades. And they circumvent the assured water supply rule. Single family homes have to adhere to it. I just want to remind you of that tonight. Thank you.

Thank you.

Is there anyone else that would like to speak? My name is Joe Yoast. I live on Cornerstone Circle. Also, um I've sold a few houses in my time. I have done some developments, been in real estate for over almost 50 years in Cas. I have never ever seen multifamily as a buffer for a shopping center. If you can tell me something that multifamily is a buffer to a major shopping center, show it to me. The next thing is when I was at these meetings, I have never heard P&Z nor city council today ask the one question that everybody here has and that is why why do we have to have multifamily when there was residential? Is it for development profits? Is it for the beauty of Cassag Grand? Why? Why do we have to have more than that commercial corner? Give them that commercial corner. Give it expanded. I mean, expand it over the multif family. I don't care. But why do we have to have more multifamily zoning in Cassagrant? And just ask the question, why? Thanks.

Thank you. Any other questions or questions, comments, I guess you say? I know. Where where have you been on vacation?

Mayor, council members. Hi, Gloria Johnson's story and I live at 1245 East Laurel Drive and I also have property on Rodeo Road. I just want to point out our apartments are overtaking our city. For some reason, they put them all together in a cluster and they start to look like a correctional institution went in there. But the other thing that I wanted to share tonight is, and I know I'll probably never live to see it, but I still want to protect my Rodeo Road. There's 48, I believe, apartments scheduled to go up on Rodeo Road. I don't know if you're familiar, but I'm not looking forward to it. I did work with the developer. didn't get everything I wanted and I did get a little, but you can't plant a tree to hide a three-story apartment. And that's what we're looking at after looking at our beautiful desert after all this time. Thank you.

Thank you, Gloria. Okay. Anyone else? It is already for multif family. Hello. It's currently.

Hi, my name is Linda Linda Stamper. I live at 261 East Whitewing Court. Um, when we moved in there, we always we checked to see what was to be there for the future and we were told that there was going to be more homes like Coyote Ranch that would extend from the end to Fry. We did a lot of checking on a lot of this

and like it's been said tonight already, that's what everybody there has expected. These people have put we have put money as an investment into something where we want to live the rest of our lives. This is not a a community where you go and live for two, three, four, five years and then you upgrade to another community. Our community is the upgrade and we would like to keep that quiet, peaceful nature that we were promised. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? We're here all night, so you can come up if you want. No more. Okay. Um, and the applicant, did you want to come and address a couple of these questions? Okay.

Um, thank you all for your feedback. Um, we appreciate it. Uh, I just wanted to give a few thoughts. Um, as mentioned the, uh, we our site has a certificate of assured water supply. Um the single family residential parcel parcel five that is um subject to that certificate of assured water supply. Uh there are single family residential detached parcels. They're not intended to be for rent. Um so they they would be subject to to that requirement. Um the example that the gentleman gave on tle uh is actually more of a for rent product and it's a smaller product than than what we're proposing here on parcel 5. So, these are going to be 40 foot wide lots um with setbacks in between the homes. And um McCartney Ranch 2, uh I believe the smallest lot size is 45 ft. So, it's not all that far off from what's already contemplated for McCartney Ranch too.

What is the the square footage of a house that size lot approximately? I know it depends on if it's single or twotory, but

Okay. Um I would also like to mention that that commercial C there was a comment uh about it uh at that um panel and Palm Avenue intersection. Um I would like to note that that the communities mentioned do have a a significant setback from from Panel Avenue generally and commercial C is going to be at a signalized uh in well it's potentially signalized intersection. And so that's planned to have a future traffic signal and it's planned to be fairly busy um and it's going to have commercial to the north. So we believe that having commercial at at the southeast corner of that intersection makes a little bit more sense than having that right in your backyard as a single family homeowner. Um we believe that that's a more appropriate use for this proposed development. uh knowing that we're going to have some significant commercial on this site and I believe that that is Oh, I would also like to note the reduction in multif family. I know there was concerns about having that approximately 15 acres of multif family still on here in parcel one. I would like to note that the 2022 PAD had 22 acres of multif family. So, this is a significant reduction in multif family. We're not increasing the multif family. We're not increasing the density. We're actually restricting it and we're adding an additional twostory restriction to it. So, you're not going to see the three-story large apartment buildings. This is going to be twostory uh perhaps a walk up perhaps attached town homes or something along those lines.

So, can be town homes also. It could be. Yes. Um that's all I got. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um no other questions. I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing if there's no other questions and um I will take any questions, comments from the council at this time. Anyone want to any questions or comments? No. Just a quick one for the applicant. Um on parcel one, you mentioned that on parcel five it is assured water supply that it's for parcel 5. Would that also apply if you put condos into uh parcel one? Um, if we were intending to to have a town homes,

town homes or something for ownership, I I believe that would apply. But your water would Okay, perfect. That's all I was want to ask. Thank you. Thank you. So, make sure you had the water. Go ahead, Bob.

Yeah, I just have a a comment that it's not going to be very popular in this room tonight. Um but uh I I do believe in property rights and if somebody owns a property and they want to develop it um within reason and and within reason I mean by the by the codes and the statutes that are that are uh controlling that. I think they have the right to do that. And I and I will say uh what I have seen on this project um the uh cooperation and the willingness of the developer to make concessions to allow it to uh fit a little better uh with the the residents I I think is commendable. Uh I don't I don't I can't remember a project when uh when I saw this level of cooperation. Uh so I I'm impressed by that. Also the comments that have been made about the apartments. Um we share your concern. There's a lot of apartments here in Kasa Grande and more to come. Um the the best I can do to defend that is that uh economic projections uh all around including our community is that apartment living is going to grow uh faster and faster. Uh that's what people are going to turn to as they have now. Um um the the projections are uh that we're behind the curve uh believe it or not. Uh I know that's hard to believe, but um that we're still behind the curve and we need to add some apartments to our

inventory. The other thing that was uh that was commented on is that we we have uh developments that are basically tiny houses. those those are compromises to apartment buildings. Instead of two threestory apartment buildings, the developers turn to that because they they know that apartments are often times uh not viewed favorably. So those commun those neighborhoods that you're seeing are in lie of apartments. Uh they are build to rent. Uh, I know several people that have uh rented those because they don't really like apartment living. They'd really like a single family residence, but they just can't afford it. And that that seems to fit that little niche that they're looking for. So, um we may not always um make decisions that everybody is happy with. Uh but we we do have the responsibility to do what's best for the community as a whole. And even though uh the Coyote Ranch neighborhood has um has voiced uh opposition to this development. Um, I I for one think it has flowed well and that the the developer has done what they can to make it fit as well as possible. And I'll I'll be voting to approve this tonight. Thank you.

Thank you, Bob. Any other comments, Matt? I'll go. It's no no secret I I live in Coyote Ranch. U met with my neighbors at the HOA meeting. Met with them here, met with the developers. It seemed that the biggest concern was parcel five. Um when I met with the neighbors and also uh commercial C. So when I talked to everyone said no no apartments at partial five, no multif family I should say. So we went met with the developers they said we do 35. Uh Lisa Brent and I were in the meeting said no can you? They said we can do 40. Said okay. So those are single family homes. Those are not built to rent homes. those or not and they do have certificate of assured water.

Right now there could be 568 apartments as it sits

with this new proposal tonight there is a maximum of 310 multif family units and probably going to be less um depending on what kind of product they get. I remember last time we zoned this, we made sure that the the houses directly to the north of Coyote Ranch were single family or I'm sorry, single level homes, so they don't they're not going to be twotory looking over the walls. Also on Commercial C, convenience stores, um car washes, anything that go, you know, make a lot of noise, cause a lot of traffic for 24 hours a day cannot be permitted there. Additional setback. Um and we've got the 310 ft of the the the Kinder Morgan And now where my house is, I live one house away from Panal Avenue and it is loud. I mean, Panal's loud. There's no doubt about that. Um, I live there. I choose to live there. Not complaining. That's where I live. Um, what what they're doing here is trying to put a buffer between the homes and Panala Avenue. And again, we have much less many less apartment units, multif family units than what they than what they could legally do right now as it sits. In addition, they're putting in a stoplight which should help traffic on Panal because that's another stop there at Palm Lane from Rodeo in between McCartney and and Rodeo. Additionally, we're widening McCartney Road right now. You guys have all seen that there's going to be more traffic. This is already a commercial corner. It's going to be commercial. Um, you know, it's already permitted right now and corners are always they should mostly be commercial. Um, also they're putting in a lane on Panal Avenue. I don't think we talked about that too much, but the the developers putting an additional lane on on Panal adjacent to their development from, you know, the south edge of theirs up to McCartney Road. And additionally, there's a wall in between the trail system that's in there. We have other trail systems like that, especially um on Rotary Park south of Rodeo Road. I'm

sorry, Rotary Park south of Rodeo Road by the Circle K there. And we have a 20 foot wide uh gravel pathway that's or gravel trail that's part of our whole system that's going to connect someday once we get them all built and it it's been kept up very well and it's a good it's a nice amenity to the community. So I mean the biggest thing we heard when we talked when I talked to my neighbors which I'm looking at you guys right now is parcel 5 commercial C and you know and move at at one point it was move parcel 5 as multif family up to McCartney Road. Well, we got rid of a lot of the multif family on this on this plot. So, I think that's a win and and it's never going to be everything everyone wants one way or the other. That's what we do up here is we have to figure out how to make the best use of what we have and respect everybody current land, you know, current residents as well as land owners that have this. So, I mean, it's it's a tough one for sure and it's very personal to me and I I care a lot about Cassagran. I've lived here for 50 years. My whole life I've lived in Cassagrant. And people say all the time to me, well, I used to like how it Well, I used to like how it was too, you know, 25 years ago, 30 years ago. But we're a growing community and what we can do is try to make it the best we can with what we got and not, you know, as as Bob Hules said, we hear about apartments, we know about apartments. And and I talked to one of my other neighbors says, I'm not I'm against me personally, not the city, this is Matt Herman, against making any more zone changes for multif family. What we're doing here is reducing that multifamily use in this area right here, right by our home, by my home, by our homes, a lot of you out here, and that's what we can do. Um, so I'm thinking this is a good use of it. Also, concerning Walmart, um, our Walmart in town is the fifth busiest in the nation from what I've been told, in the nation, not in Arizona. So, this will help take some pressure off of the other Walmart as well. And it's a lot closer to the north

side of town where there's a lot of people, you know. So, and I've heard Costco, I've heard other things. And Costco usually doesn't go not next to freeways. So, just about that because I know they tried to get Costco and it didn't work out from what they told me in the meeting. So, that's my two cents so far. Okay. All right.

Um I just I do appreciate that there is a reduction in the amount of um acreage for multif family. I think that, you know, like uh Matt has said that they're they've made some really good concessions with like the twotory. I also think that parcel 5 offers home ownership to people that may not be able to buy um in other areas or maybe for new home buyers. And I think that's important for our community as well.

And um you know, I hear a lot about traffic on Florence. I I live in Vago. My mom lives in Coyote Ranch. I drive all the way across town to go to Walmart and that will alleviate some of the congestion that we hear about over there when we have more of those opportunities and options where we live in that area. You know, I want what's best for this community. I think all of us do as we sit up here and these are some good concessions. It's multif family zoned already. They're reducing it and they're also making concessions that someone else wouldn't have to make. And so I do appreciate that. And um you know I think that my my daughter lives in an apartment and um I lived in an apartment when I started out and I think it's good that we have options like that for people in our community and you know we hear that too where there are a lot of apartments we don't need anymore and we've talked about will we approve new zoning for multifamily? Probably not. But right now, they're looking at changing it and listening to what you guys have to say and the concerns that you have as well. And and I I do think that this is a good thing.

Thank you, Becca. Go ahead, Brent.

I'll just echo a lot of the previous comments. Um the reduction from 568 units down to 310 multifamilies, I think, is a win. That's 258 less apartments that we're going to have. And then um I won't mention all the other comments I made, but then the other one I want to talk about is commercial lot C. Um I know with the restrictions that were placed on it with this, if we don't change them, it's a water campus. And if you don't know what water water campus is, it's a fancy term for a well site. A well site is where they drill wells for water. They were on 24 hours a day and you will hear them all the time. There is no restriction that we can put on them and say you can only work 12 hours a day. Well sites run 24 hours a day. They would have tanks. They have all kinds of things. That's what's approved for it right now. I think going to commercial se with the restrictions we're putting on is going to be much better than what we have currently sitting in that spot. That's all I want to add in.

Thank you, Anthony. No. Um, and I and I'm going to have to say that I I echo, you know, what my fellow council members have have talked about. Um, you know, I don't want to go through all the details, but I I really agree with all the comments that that have been made here. You know, I you know, we again grew up here, too, been part of this community and seen it change and and it there the market conditions have have evolved so so it's changed. So I know there's been some comments that you know well 2021 even you know um what happened then but things are changing and we see the the cost of living and um the difficulty with people having to you know find places to live um especially young people. I'm like you lived in an apartment. My daughter lives in an apartment. She's a got her doctorate degree. She and she's living in an apartment. I my husband and I lived in a 1900 square foot home when we you know were first married I was a professional he was a professional and we lived in a 1900 foot home and so yes there's someone made a comment that the mortg or the rent for a six a fourbedroom apartment is $1600 but what is the mortgage of a six you know a fourbedroom house um at this point and so I think we times have changed I wish that, you know, we can live on these big lots, you know, like we did when we bought our homes. I've been living in my house for 20 25 years, the same house. And so I know that the cost of that house is very different now. But I just want people to really put yourselves in the position of starting out. I go to these employers all the time and visit and see who's working the the human aspect of who's working at Lucid, who's working at

Coler, who's working at Fredo Lelay. And I see the people and I see that, you know, what their what their what their salaries are, what their incomes are. They cannot afford a a 3,000 square foot home. They are living in apartments. And I I I know people have gone to these apartments, but have you talked to those that are living in these apartments? Because I have. I've talked to them. I you know, people are excited that they have so many options. We've done a um a housing um study that has shown where we are with housing. And believe it or not, we're at 75% um you know um um occupancy. Now, there's more coming in. We'll you know, we'll evaluate that as they come in. But those numbers, people are living in those apartments. I know you may not want to. I don't want to right now. You know, I like this space. But there are people living in apartments and there it's frustrating sometimes because of the and I get it all the time. We all do when people criticize and talk about the criminals that are living in apartments and the riff raff that is going to come into this city by people living in apartments. These are hardworking police officers, nurses, you know, um people working in in all the stores that we that we shop at here today that can't afford big homes. And so I understand, we are hearing it, you know, we we hear it and we've, you know, we the the the developer, you know, thank you for listening because, you know, you you heard it not only from Coyote Ranch, you heard it from all of us, you know, the the whole thing with apartments. So, I I'm um appreciative that you um you know, brought that number down and and I hope you actually go to a town home um you know um product, but um but at least that number is down. But the parcel five, we heard you loud and clear and I want you all to know that are here that

are listening that we read all of your emails. Hope you I know I try to get back to all of you and if I miss some of you, I apologize. We listened to you. We um brought that to the developer um when we met with them and um they came in uh you know they they know that there was some frustration that they didn't come with actual changes to their um proposed um you know plan but they were really trying to listen to everyone and what their feedback was. So when they came to us they weren't ready. They were like no we we understand we want to cut this. We're going to pull out the apartments. we're gonna, you know, increase the the the um the commercial sea by an additional 45 feet. We're going to put limitations on there. So, you know, they were really good. There was definitely um a a compromise. We we listen to the community. We want We also listen to those that aren't in this room and those that don't live in Coyote Ranch. We also being council members, we hear from the whole community and we hear what the community is is wanting at this time and they want more on Panel Avenue. I wish we can just pick and choose. I want Costco on this lot and I want, you know, Panera on that lot, you know, whatever. But we can't. These are This is Jeff has owned this property for how many years? Okay. So, 16 years and um he wasn't sure when he was going to be able to move and I don't know if you told them the story, move forward on this project, but um because of the infrastructure improvements that are going on on McCartney, you know, that that can handle some of this growth, you know, that as well as, you know, Walmart coming forward um knowing that this intersection can meet the capacity of some of this development that's coming here. And he's also, and I don't know if anyone's told you um or

have have told the group that he's also going to be investing millions of dollars, I think 10 over a period of time to bring the water infrastructure to this development. So again, it's not it it just doesn't just come. We can't just pick, you know, exactly, you know, what you know, who this he owns this land and like you said, Bob, it's property rights, too, you know, but we but we want to they want to be good neighbors. Um, we want to listen to the community, the whole community, and we've been getting input from the whole community. So, I just want to thank everyone that has that has been um part of this process that is um our staff for being open and um you know providing the the the the changes that you know in informing and educating people how the processes work. I want to thank the community. I I hope you understand. You know, you can see that the majority of us are in favor of this, but you know, we you know, I I do feel that because of the the changes where we are in the market, you know, the the location of this and and what what the community is looking for, um this is a a great site to bring this type of development. And I like Walmart. I don't know if you guys shop at, you know, Walmart much, even for their home stuff. It's, you know, I'm I'm excited to have a new Walmart. And I know Jeff talked about the Walmart product, the Walmart product that is looking to come in into that location, too. So, as well as some of the other amenities. So, um, again, I know we're not going to make everyone happy here. Um, but I really hope you just put yourself into, you know, shoes of other people that live in apartments that need smaller homes. They're good people. They're good, hardworking people that that want to buy a home. And I think by taking that apartment piece out, this is giving people an option with it maybe a

little bit of a smaller lot size to be able to purchase homes. So, with that, um, I'll go ahead. Any any other questions or concerns or questions? No. Okay. So, I know we have to, um, move on or Well, I think there's two items, right? Yeah, there's two. Where is my my sheet here? Where did I put it? Um, okay. So, should we go ahead and start then with a resolution number? Okay. So, we'll go ahead and start with the first resolution number.

Resolution number 5273.42. A resolution of the council of the city of Cassagrand, Arizona, adopting a minor amendment to the city of Cassagrand general plan 2030 as adopted by resolution number 5273 as and as previously amended by changing the land use designation from neighborhoods to community corridor for approximately 43 acres of property generally located near the southeast corner of McCartney Road and Panel Avenue, Castran, Arizona. Mayor Fitz Gibbons. I would move for approval of resolution number 5273.42 as presented. Second.

Okay. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. If we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Huleston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Proton Bedellan. Yes. Mayor Fitzgiven. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. Now, if we can get an ordinance number, please.

Ordinance number 1178.247.4. An ordinance of the council of the city of Cagran, Arizona approving a major amendment to the villages at McCartney Ranch Pad for property generally located at the southeast corner of McCartney Road and Panel Avenue, Cassagrand, Arizona to add additional commercial uses and amend permitted residential uses. Mayor forgiven, I move that we approve ordinance number 118.247.4 as presented. Second. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion on this item? Okay, Adriana, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member Ramo,

yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Huleston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Promellan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. Okay. So, um that's we're done there. Again, thank you everyone for your input and feedback here. Um we're going to go ahead and and have our reports. So, um who who would like to start? Becca. Sure. Sure. We can go ahead and start with Becca. Uh it's that exciting time of the year where our students are uh graduating from high school and then also promoting from 8th grade into high school. And um I'm looking forward to this week. We're always super excited at Cactus as we celebrate our eighth graders and then also get to know our sixth graders coming in when they come to visit our campus. And then of course it's always exciting to see our um seniors as they get ready to move on to that next transition in their life. And it's great because some of those kids I've known since elementary into middle into high school and just getting to see just how amazing they are. We have really great kids in our community. So that's just wonderful. Um I got to go to the Target uh soft opening, grand opening. I'm not sure what it was called, but that was amazing and a lot of fun. So that's all my reports.

Thank you. Do you want to wait just a second until people clear out? I know. Sorry about that, Becca. It's okay. I'll go ahead and go. You want to go? No, no report. I'll say everything I said again. Don't worry. No report. I'll repeat. Okay. No report. No report. Okay. Clear it out. Anyone else? No report. No report. Okay. No. You were on vac You were on vacation. Okay. Good. Sean.

Sure. Uh, yeah. I was with Becca and Lisa and Matt at the Target soft grand opening or soft opening. That was amazing to see the store. Thank god Target's back in town. you know, it's it's going to be great to have another option for groceries and something on the other side of the freeway where I live. So, that's great. Um, also I attended the uh unveiling at the uh for the artwork done at Palm Island Family Aquatic Center.

Um, that was really nice. Really great picture. Uh, and if you guys get a chance to go over there, it's opening Saturday. This Saturday, the maybe it's the 29th. Well, I can't remember. It's I think it's this weekend. This Saturday the Palm Creek is opening back up. Yeah. And uh so as you go go to this pool, go to the splash splash pads and all that kind of stuff. Check out the new artwork that's been done over there. Looked amazing. We had a great artist do it. So good. Thank you. Thank you for going to that too. Yeah. Okay, Matt.

Uh yeah, we had we had youth commission interviews on Saturday the day the parking lot was closed as well here. We had about 30 people. We had a bunch. We went we went until 1:30 and uh it was a lot of good interviews, great kids, and I want to thank Adriana and Ivonne from the clerk's office for helping me get all the papers together and advertising and getting us so many applicants. And again, the kids make all the decisions. I'm just there to turn on the lights and make sure that everything's going smoothly. And then I also want to thank uh Aidenary from community services and Danny's department did good and got pizza for the kids. So that was key to keep them going through the meeting and uh she was very helpful in getting everything done. So I want to thank everybody for that. Uh got to attend the uh the chamber community outlook lunchon with the legislators Lopez uh Martinez and Senator Shopee. And that was somewhat informative and uh

it was good to Yeah, I did. Um, and so that was good to have them speak about what they're doing up there or not doing as the case may be. Um, so yeah. And then Target was fun. I got free oatmeal cream pie and Red Bull. Pretty happy. Why you win? Yes.

Right. Um, well, thank you guys. Um I I actually wanted to start you my report and I I didn't do it earlier just with something very serious and as we all know one of our counterparts um and friend Dick Powell passed away as all of you know and so um you know I just know the impact he made in my life and as a mentor and as a friend. I mean we were probably what 40 years difference in age maybe not 40 but um few years but uh probably I know I shouldn't say that I'm I'm not that young. Um but but you know he he really was just a true gentleman and I've learned so much from him and just you know yeah he he's just going to be missed and so all of you that um have know him you know know how how special he was there the services are going to be May 30th at Crossroads Church at 3:30 p.m. So, um, but I know, you know, so many of you here, all of our staff, too, have have worked worked with Dick for so many years. So, um, I just truly value him as a human being. And we also lost another, you know, legend in our community. Um, Bob Brutinell um was 101 years old, a a businessman in this community for many, many years. And, um, worked until the day he got sick, just right before he passed away. He went to Brutinell Plumbing every day. Um the services were this past Saturday and I go to a lot of funerals and I was shocked a 101year-old had that big of a funeral. I mean it was full um because it just showed the impact this man has made in so many generations because there's so many young people that that have he he you know the talk you know the plumbing business and and Becca was there too um at the services. So again just a a true gentleman and and wonderful human being. So both of them um will be missed. So, um, as far as move, you know, um, things going ahead, you know, we have the summer months that

are here and, um, you know, one of the concerns is our unsheltered population. And so, you know, we've been working with the unsheltered person action committee and just wanted to let all the council member and the public know that, you know, we do have a list of the the hydration and cooling stations that is published and we're going to be putting it on our website, but just so all of you know here there's um 4, 8, 12, 13 locations here in the city of Cascran and it has all the different hours. CG Helps, which is the CARA, um they're open Monday through Friday, 8 to 4. Um transitional living recovery center, Monday through Friday, 8 to 4. CHIP, um Tuesday through Saturday, 10 to 7. Community, um um Caster Grant, Wait, what's CAA? Community

Alliance.

Casran Alliance. Casran Alliance. Um yes. Um Monday through Friday. Um St. Vincent to Paul, Casgram Municipal Court. Pretty much all Monday through Friday. Casran Library, Vista Grande Library, Casran Fire, all of our fire departments, our hydration and cooling station, as well as the Panel County Sheriff's Office. So, they um will have, you know, water on site. We are also going to um we're working on putting signage outside of all of these locations to show that they are hydration and cooling stations so people know um that they can come in to cool off, they can come in to get water. Um, and then we are also in the process of trying to identify a location from when these close at 56 to maybe 9 or 10 p.m. because we know we're not going to get an overnight shelter anytime soon. So, we are also trying to identify hopefully soon a location that can we can get that gap from, you know, um, 5 or 6:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. for the summer months. So, just kind of wanted to keep everyone updated on what's happening. Do the fire stations fill that niche? Will they

Yeah, they're on there. Yeah, I mean those odd hours late. They're late. Oh, we can't talk about it. Sorry, we can't. We can't discuss. We can't have discussion. We can talk about it. Yeah. Um, we can get you answers. Okay.

Yeah. All right. So, but we're looking at a site that we might be able to do. So, I just wanted to kind of give everyone and we are also working on that tr the transitional living program with Horizon Health and the Boots and Saddle Hotel. We're going to have a study session in June to kind of keep everyone updated on what's happening with that program with the transitional um living program. So, um graduations, yes, it's so exciting time of year. Um a lot of graduations. I'll be attending CAS Grand Union Vistas, um Mission Heights, um Cascran Middle Schools, but I went to the Cascan Union um scholarship night and it I just wanted to thank all those organization which many of you on the council serve in on these committees that give scholarships and Caster Grand Union they're they award they they had total awards of 6,726 um,000 to their college seniors. And so obviously that's not just our groups here but these universities. So it shows that the education that these kids are getting and the scholarships that they're getting to to move on. So and of course our own Sawyer um you know obviously received the largest I think

$445,000 $445,000,000 scholarship to Duke University. So we're super proud of of um him as well as so many of these other students. So, congratulations to all all of our seniors. Um Target, yes, it was awesome. And you know, Becca, you didn't bring this up and I didn't know, but your cousin um is the one, and I didn't know this, that opens many of the Target stores. And so, what was her name again? Lisa.

Lisa. How do I forget that? Um so, how did I forget? But it was it was so neat because I think her story is that she worked for Target um when they were open before and um she continued to work for Target and took on this role and now she goes all over the country and opens Target stores and so she was extra special for her because this is her hometown and so it was just so nice meeting her and it was just just unbelievable. So if you haven't been to Target, please go to Target. The first one to ever reopen. To reopen? Yes. Yep. the only one they've ever reopened.

So maybe she's the one that you know helped helped get that work. Yeah. So um you know great events. Nurses day at Banner again, you know, so um proud of our nurses. You have a a nurse in your family um and everything that they do. Um the biz outlook legislative update that was good. Um and then you know the community care center with Cascran Elementary School District that is the um we we met that committee um and how they're going to allocate their $1.1 million congressional funding that they're getting and they're opening this community care center. They even talked about putting washers and dryers because they know that it's something that um the public really needs. Um so they're, you know, trying to strategize there. So with that, I think that's probably enough. So, um, I'll go ahead and again, thank you everyone for your patience and being here. And everyone have a beautiful Memorial Day. Oh, Memorial Day service is at the Mountain View Cemetery this coming Monday. So, if you can join us at 9:00 a.m., it's a great ceremony. So, um, I welcome everyone to come and attend on Memorial Day at 9:00 am. Okay, everyone, have a great weekend at the Mountain View.