Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening and welcome to the planning committee meeting of Caramel Beit Minus 18 in August 2026. Will you join us for the opening of the faith? Thank you very much. Sir, would you read the following names? Jess Ladd

Jonathan Beleik, present. Adam Cabana, present.

Jeff Hill, present.

Christine Zecola, present.

Suvo Stermier, present. Dabi Backler, present. Mara Deer, present. Teresa, present. Thank you very much. We have a quorum. The next topic is the approval of the protocol from the Caramel Planning Committee in July. Is there a proposal for approval? I suggest. And what about seconds? Second, thank you very much for the proposal and for the seconds. Anyone who, until the protocol is issued from the July meeting, who says, until, until, anyone who opposes, does not hear the opposition. The protocol is valid. Thank you very much. The next topic is communication, accounts, payments, and the legal advisor's report. I will transfer the authority of the speech to our legal advisor, Sarah. I don't have a specific report, but I believe that the team is likely to request a new organization of today's order, because the first topic in public use is expected to be significant, and the new businesses are likely to be shorter. Okay, we can, just for everyone's knowledge, the reason for changing the order today is that public utilities, according to our rules of conduct, are ahead of all. We have another package in order today evening, which is the address of ADLS for non-public utilities. Then we will change the order so that we can discuss it earlier, and then the tenants will be able to leave or stay if they want. The proposal to change the order will be made so that we will discuss the address of the Rhein office building before the public utility in the matter is 100%.

Hatsa'a letikun v'shinui seder hayom. Sheni.

Toda raba al ha-hatsa'a v'al ha-shniyot. Kol mi shebe'ad shinui seder hayom shelanu, sheyomar, be'ad. Be'ad. Mi shehu mitnaged, lo shomea hitnagduyot, lachen seder hayom shone rishmit. Toda. The next topic is reports, notifications and issues related to the markets. I will transfer the authority of the discussion to Alkesio from the market team. Thank you. The only issues I have is to update you from the last meeting of the committee, in which we discussed the change in the wall of Hunter Glenn, but did not receive a final decision. and so the issue was discussed at the Hey! Minus 1 meeting in September. And after that, the center of the heart is St. Vincent. The building repairs were cancelled, but the issue of maintenance was discussed so that they could continue to work on it, since there were quite a few things that needed to be taken care of and closed. Then it will rise again in the next meeting. Thank you. Excellent. Thank you very much. Now we will move on to what is defined as new businesses. This is number PZ2026-00165. Anna will present herself.

Shalom. Hi, אני קול וולטרס מסטודיו וו ארכיטקטורה נעים להכיר את כולכם תודה שהקדמתם את התור שלנו And yes, it is an ADLS repair contract for the Rangeline office building. The location is 510 Norat, Rangeline Road. We will start with a brief summary of the project and move on to some of the site's programs. This is a small site. We will show you some advanced research that we did on Rangeline Street. We will move on to the websites. I can show you the building plans if you want. We have a few images to show you, and then we will summarize the things. In short, the project is a new professional office building between two floors with a VB-type wooden floor. It is located on the corner of Minus 5,000 Ravua Street. A group of gas stations and a gas station were previously installed on the site as part of Minus 520 Norat, Rangeline. You can see this in the website program that we will present later. It is located behind our site. The entrance is Minus 28 Dunam Street. I'm sure you know it. The Rangeline line is in the middle, to the right of the yellow box you see. It is in the B5 trading table that goes along the Rangeline line through Old Town Carmel. This is just a general summary of the site. This is just a migration right now. You can see that the back part of it on the western side is actually a trade migration. Google has not yet updated it, but it is an existing trade migration. You can see the route around. Right now this is route B5. To the west of it, there is a route called R2. Here is a plan to improve the site. First, we work with Elacasia on an attempt to build the building on the site. It is a fairly small site and a fairly large building. Then we work with it on its location. As you can see on the left or on the left side, there is an existing parking garage that was part of another property that was built in the past. First, here is Reinegg Lane. Here is Semol Street. Most of the building staff and customers will shop at the shopping mall. Then the main entrance will be from this location here. Then we have this corridor. But we also decided to connect the corridor from the shopping mall to the Rhine corridor. In Amam, we also have a escalator ramp, Ada, Amem, and you can see the stairs up here. We will have a shoe store in the middle. Amam, some of its customers like to ride on shoes in Monon Trail, which is a little more western. Amem, you can see that we also have this nice painted concrete right next to Rhein Lane. Although most of the customers and employees did not enter from there, we thought it would be a nice touch. Amem. This is about everything about the website. So the building is designed to look like part of the street and not separated from it. We went through five or six versions of this, just based on what the owners ran and what Carmel ran, and I think we got to what is relevant to the needs and wishes of both. Then we went along the street and found different examples. These are all located along Rhine Lane, very close to our site, and we tried to choose examples and different characteristics from these buildings and implement them in our design. אז אפשר לראות את גמלוני הגג, הצבע, סוג החיפוי ויש להם לבנים בחלק מהעמודים השונים. לקחנו ושאבנו השראה מכל הבתים והעסקים השונים האלה כדי לעצב את המבנה שלנו כאן. The walls of your house. Then it mainly shows you the materials. The upper half is simply a wood floor, a wood floor floor, and then you have this strong building. In the lower half you have the dry sand, and we will move on to these materials in a moment, but these are your building walls. Amen. Here are the external examples. You have the tree planting, tree planting, as I said, the dry grass, and then the building of the garden, the base, the ground. For the lower half. Here are the floor plans that we can pass on, but this is for basic offices. You have two or three offices on the first floor, a meeting room and an entrance hall on this floor. There is an external window for the team and customers, and on the second floor there are six offices and a meeting room. They have an external office. There are two ways to get in. This is a basic office building for science. You can see here how we created this facility. This is the place where most people will enter, not just because of Ryan Lane, but because of the school. So this is your main entrance. Here is the website's main program. We have with us the civil engineer, Nick Fattas from JPS Engineering. He will be able to answer any questions about the types of trees and trees, then leave it to him. But here is the exciting program. You can see that we are standing in all the requirements of the repairs. The site is full of vegetation. Here is a beautiful drawing of the entrance to the school. This is what most customers and workers will see there. You can see the runway that I talked about earlier, the outer runway on the first floor and the outer stairs. Here is the drawing from K-1 Ryan, Lane and Left Street. And that's the end of things. Thank you.

Great. Thank you very much. I will transfer the speaking authority to the marketing team for their comments.

Thank you, to Protokol, to Kessia Lopez from the planning and management department. I think that the author did a good job in the general review. This is part of a previous development program that was created, which in my opinion was created as a center for Rakhburs. The building that has never been built, then it will be a new building, but the canyon was built and the existing infrastructure exists to this day. There are no changes in the market or anything else. One thing that we noted is that the building is located in a direction of minus 8 feet only from Rhine Lane street, and since it is located in the Oulad Town area, new buildings are required to stand on the site of the buildings in the same block. When I looked at what was there, and it allows for a 3-feet gap, I think they will require a more 19-feet gap. אז זה משהו שהם יצטרכו לקבל עבורו חריגה או לנסות להזיז את הבניין אחורה. דיברנו על זה קצת, אז אולי לכל תהיה תשובה לכך הערב. עמם! There is a train that exists on Reindlein and left street. But the transport department asked for a six-legged train on the left and also, I think, five-legged for a shortcut to probably assist this train. They present two typefaces that will provide four parking spaces. He passed a little on the materials of the building. We worked with them a lot, and Amem, thank God that the author worked with us in the past and the future, because there are D-Captain-like directions in this part of the ancient city. Amem, but I think we got to a really good point. Amem, you know, he spent a lot of thought and attention on materials and other details, such as the type of windows and their location. They practiced the Elu, the Gimurim, Amem, you know, the white powder, the treatment in the front windows, more or less everything. One part that I mentioned was the branches. It requires something like a tree or a tree branch. So this is maybe something that we can just make sure that it is a tree branch.

Fix it and you can see in this video a tree branch that will be your tree branches and the filling will be a filling of branches from a tree branch instead of the horizontal branches that we had before.

Yes, then the facial features were more in the direction of a modern feeling, apparently. But in the ancient city, more of a tree or a tree branch was needed. So it's great to hear. Thank you. They propose a new renovation to the entire site. Oh, one more thing. I believe there is a large pine tree in this part today. I think it's a pine tree. So I don't know if it's possible to save it in the location where the tree is located in comparison to the building. אני אני לא חושב שהעץ שמוצג כאן אני לא חושב שהוא עדיין שם אני חושב שהעץ הקיים אלא אם כן מדדתם אותו לאחרונה אני חושב שהוא יותר. העץ העליון הזה.

כן. אני מאמין שכן.

שם. האם זה המקום שבו הוא נמצא? אני מאמין שכן. אני יכול לבדוק שוב. בסדר. אני רק רוצה לוודא כי ראיתי שהיה עץ קודם שלדעתי הוא שר וחשבתי שאולי זה היה הוא. אבל אם זה, אם זה המיקום הקיים של העץ הצבעוני, אז זה יהיה. נהדר כי זה כנראה יהיה קל יותר להצלה.

This is the updated plan from our conversations. And we moved the plan south. I think that three feet, in order to distance ourselves from this tree, in order to protect it, even if it is there or not there, we can distance ourselves from it. All right.

So this was just one of the suggestions, to try to save the existing tree if possible. And it sounds like they managed to move the building a little. Amen. Then we will look at it. Amen. And then they present a description of the Beit Amen building. The entry and then I think above the gram of the stairs there from the platform, but the levels of the layout in the program I think are a little out of our demand and they need to be 0.3 feet in the line of the slope. And regarding traffic, they are on two public roads, so they were given two control lanes. But what they had previously shown was more of a networked page and control between them, which a lot of Brains see, but it's no longer allowed. So, the Meme is what we prefer to see here along Rangeline. The Meme, then I hope it can be updated. And then... These were the main issues that arose. So if all these concerns are resolved, we recommend that you vote on this issue tonight. Amem, you know, maybe we can discuss a few of the things that seem to have already been fixed, and then we can work with them on everything else, based also on your concerns. Thank you.

Great. Thank you very much. I will open this to questions or concerns from the members of the planning committee. For those who have questions, Amem Debi.

RAK HAVHARA LEGABEI HAMERCHAK MIDERECH RAINJELAIN. MA TZARICH LETAPEL SHAM? ZE NISHMA LI KMO HAVDEL MESHMAOUTI BEIN MA SHENIDRASH LEMA SHEMUTSA. KEN. AZ HAMINIMUM HAYOM HUH 19 REGEL, VE AMEM ANI LO CHOSHEV SHE BECHOL MIKRE HEM YOKLU LEHAZIZ ET HABINYAN MASPIK KDEY LAAMOD BEZE. then it will seem that it will require an exception. I think that everyone is going to check it to see how much they can move it, but it is known that there is an exception process and I think that we will support it if it can move a little. There are a few other buildings in other blocks that are a little closer. Then it will not be too much of an exception. But yes, you will need an exception for this. And just to clarify, it will go to BCA for the exception. So? Yes, then we can apply this to this condition. Have you even started to test this previous approach?

Okay, thank you. Debbie, do you have any more questions? No. Does anyone else have any questions? Yes, Jeff.

All, I wanted to ask if you can show me the black characters you showed a few minutes ago. Yes. Those who might be showing the statue on the left street.

Maybe not this one. One of them. Excuse me. Okay, then.

I'll say the characters don't exactly match the website's plan. Okay. I completely understand. They look amazing in detail.

I tried to understand what is shown here in comparison to the website about the road, because the driver asked for a wider road from east to west on the left street. I just wondered how it connects. I couldn't see it clearly in the previous program, so is there a separation of dirt between the road and the road? Yes. I just wanted to make sure that this is more than anything else.

Yes, I can go to the site. You can see that the image does not exactly represent the amount of space that will be there. I don't know if you see it well, but there is a fairly large space in contrast to what you saw in the image.

I'm sorry. Okay. So, is the ladder parallel to the road or that there is a rail between them? This is what I tried to understand a little more. כשאני מסתכל על תוכנית האתר הזו, נראה לי שהמדרכה צמודה לספת הכביש. אני פשוט מנסה להבין ולפרש את זה. אני לא יודע אם אתם משאירים את המדרכה הקיימת. אם ההנדסה ביקשה הרחבה, האם אתם מחליפים אותה? פשוט מנסה להבין איך זה יראה.

אני לא רואה דשא בין המדרכה לרחוב. אני ניקולס ועטוס.

אני מהנדס האזרחי של הפרויקט. אז כרגע המדרכה צמודה לשפת המדרכה לאורך שמאל. אז אנחנו מציעים בעצם להרחיב את המדרכה בעוד שישה אינשים, להפוך אותה לרוחב של שישה רגל, אבל להשאיר אותה צמודה לשפת המדרכה איפה שהיא נמצאת היום. אבל אנחנו יכולים וזה יישר אותה גם עם הכניסה מעבר למגרש החנייה. אוקיי. ואז כשמגיעים לקו הנכס המערבי, היא יורדת רגל או שתיים למדרכה הצרה הקיימת. כן, הבנתי.

Okay. Any more questions? No. Amem Su, did you have a question? Oh, Jeff, you're done. Okay, Su. Okay. Do you agree to capture the power of light in the lower universe? And did we get permission for that?

We sent a photometric program later tonight at about 3.30 p.m. Okay. Okay.

Yes, in fact, we removed the installation from this installation if the owners would like to return and take care of it. I think the requirements have changed. I think they would like to install stone from this building and we will move on to another process, but we removed all the installation from this ADLS repair.

Okay, so there's no installation.

There's nothing. That's right.

Now, you can't install anything if you build tomorrow, right? That's right. Okay, just make sure of that. These are all my questions. Amam, nishma she kol ha-chashashot shel ha-machlaka tuplu be-chura kol shehi. Amem, lema et ze shemuvan me'ilav she tistarchu lalekhet la-BCA kadey le-kabel et ha-ishur ha-choreg. Amem, ze nire-e proyekt nehedar. Amam, ahavnu gam et merkez ha-leda, hu haya mamash yafe. Ve-amem, aval anachnu mevinim le-gamrei kama ze ma-atger le-hotzi proyekt kaze la-poal im kol drishot ha-regulatia ve-ha-rishui. Amam, az gam ze nire-e proyekt nehedar. Az metzapim li-raot et ze. She-elot o he-arot nosafot. Im lo, ha-im yash ha-

I suggest that you adopt Act 221,661,165. In obedience to the conditions that have occurred. And the acceptance of the expropriation.

and the expiry date. So... One second, thank you. Anyone who has an expiry date is entitled to complete all the documents of the project that have been issued and will of course have to receive the expiry date from the BCA. Ana Imru, until... Until... Who opposes? There are no opponents. Congratulations, you are happy. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Alksa. Thank you.

So now we will move on to our public service, and this is the public service that is required according to law 101. Although it is necessary, but it is wonderful that we are doing this, no matter what the reason, it is always good to have this conversation about a tour. It gives us the opportunity to be more thoughtful about the tour that we are planning and developing, and to hear from you what you want and need, this is a wonderful conversation. Then, the way it will work is that Sarah, our legal advisor, will pass on the proposal of law H-101 and explain what is required, the elements that we expect to include, and then Adrian will give an additional background on the work that was done on the issue of the B'Karamel tour, including by our tour committee. and I see that we have here three members of our tour committee. We have Rabbi Aiden, Minister Spencer, and the Chairman of the committee, a member of the City Council, Non Menar. And I have the right to serve in the tour committee together with all of you. So, thank you for coming. And then, after Adrian finishes, we will open the discussion for all of you. We want to hear your opinions on the tour. You can talk in general about the tour, but Sergei will also talk about some of the elements that are specific to H101. Then, as long as one of your statements concerns one of them, we will be happy to hear those specific statements as well. When you are done, open the discussion to the members of the Planning Committee here on the table for additional statements. Sergei, I am handing over to you the speaking authority to begin. Good evening, Sergei Grokin from the Legal Advisor's Office. As the head of the committee said, there is no general mention of the H-1001, why we are here and what we are going to talk about, and then he transferred the authority of the speech to Adrian who will pass another judge, judge and half of it will be put in action to our Udo. And so, HP-101 was presented earlier in the seat, and it was a brilliant competition that came out of the last competition seat. He went through quite a few twists and turns. There were a lot of changes in this law, and when he went out for the first time, he woke up a little bit. He made a change during the process to the version we have today, which focuses more on reporting and data collection. At the beginning of the law, he focused mainly on direct guidance to local authorities. One of the demands of the IMF was to require all local authorities to evaluate the demands of the IMF and its development, with a very concrete goal defined in the law, to increase the development of tourism in the local authority. Therefore, throughout this discussion, we must always remember in mind that the goal defined by our legislators is to increase the development of tourism in Karmel. למרות שהחוק הזה עורר הרבה רעש, הוא בעצם לא חדש. הוא משתלב היטב בשיח הלאומי בנושא דיור. On the federal level, this debate began to advance in huge steps over the past year, especially with the transition of the Road Act to the 100-21, a rare two-party debate that dealt with issues of institutional ownership on the national level, alongside economic incentives and the elimination of some of the procedures. At the state level, this was one of the decided priorities of Hamushel Brown. This includes the reform initiatives in the measure that was given to Hamushel Brown. This travel law, sorry, E-101, also includes this, and at the local level, the mayor of Pinimkam started this process in 2024. This topic, which is known as the caramel of tourism, is indeed a problem. We are becoming a more and more crowded community, but we can't grow more land around us because we are surrounded by additional cities in the metropolis. Therefore, the head of the city, Pinin Cam, presented the task force for the visit of Karmel Beit Minus 2024, which became the advisory committee for the visit of Beit Minus 2025, and this work continues to this day. I believe that their plan will be presented at the end of the year. I know that they have done a lot of work on this front, and I am sure that some of their recommendations will be an inseparable part of what we are doing with the guidelines that the state has given us for 101 years. Even communities around us worked hard on this issue, especially Indianapolis with the Metropolitan Committee that conducted a research study in the center of Indiana, and also a further study called a research study on the value of the land. So, after all, even though this law makes a lot of noise, there is nothing new here, it is a subject of ongoing discussion at all levels of the government, including the federal government, the state government and the local government, but for this committee, the law 101 requires a few things. First, he must produce a report on the way in which our UDO changed and what the local authority did to advance the goal of improving and increasing the development of the district. This report is supposed to be submitted by January 1st, and it will include a report from the team, from this committee, from the district committee, from businesses, from residents and so on, and the document that will be received in this public hearing. Just like that, we will complete all the repairs that were made in Udo. I'm not sure if we will be able to do something this year, but this will be a long process. And we have already done a few like this in the last two years. Udo is a living and breathing document. You have already seen repairs to it a number of times during your visit. So this is the first topic. The second is that the structure of the enclosures is different in law 101 as well. We will update our C in the future, and at the level of the proposal, we have created two rules that will not be repeated, on which the documents and the legislation will be transferred, and this is also part of the requirements of this law. Then it will be possible to withdraw these funds only on losses and on what the team finds in terms of these programs and on the exception of the extra. And in the end, and this is the real reason why we are here today, we were asked to conduct a public hearing in which we will list nine sources, and this is what Zina is sitting on her head. It would be great to talk about a general discussion, but the legislator really wants the authorities to focus on these nine sources. They are, first of all, I will just read them and add a little interpretation, and then Adrian will go deep into each of them and how they relate to our Udo, where you can find them, which instructions can be changed and so on. But the first, and perhaps the most important, is to give the possibility to develop a higher amplitude of duplexes, triplexes and quadruplexes in the areas intended for single-family homes. then it is of course a very significant factor that has to be taken into account. We allow duplexes in certain areas of the city, and we will also consider the other possibilities. The second number is the construction of other types of tourism, including ADUs . ADUs are not a new concept in our Udo. It exists. It can be achieved in certain areas of the city, and Adrian will also cover this part. The third number is an integrated collection of commercial buildings for residents, as a goal for the development of a large family in commercial areas, offices and light industry. This is also not a new thing for Carmel. C1-C2 is a great example of a combination of different types of mutual uses. Programming development programs, PUDs, are an issue that has spread in Karmel. Many and different uses are combined, commercial, residential, institutional and public uses. The biggest example is apparently, Wilg of Ashley, which includes many uses under PUD's one policy. The fourth number is the increase in the land area ratio, FAR, in multi-family residential areas. The fifth number is a repair or demolition of repairs such as demand for size and location of the roof, improvement of the ceiling, size of a minimal garage, area in square meters, larger building blocks, a store outside the street, and construction projects that will be used in construction products. These are actually development projects that we have along the Udo. These are apparently also the most common failures in front of the BZA. A classic example of a roof replacement also exists here. So there are a lot of recommendations in UDO regarding these two factors. The numbers 6, 7, 8 and 9. The discussion here is that it will not really be implemented or that it will be limited to a certain extent. The sixth number is in terms of development areas in conjunction with the relevant advisory committee led by our department. אז יש לנו אזורי הטלי פיתוח עבור הפרקים. הם היו האחראים על התהליכים הללו, אך המחלקה מעורבת עם מועצת הפרקים ומסייעת להם בכל פעם שהם עוברים תיקונים. הם לא עוברים תיקונים בכל שנה. הפעם האחרונה שהם תוקנו הייתה לפני כשנה. The seventh number is the duration or shortening of the procedures and timetables, including by means of a combined contract and between minus 15 days or more. Again, Adrian will cover our combined structure of the committee, which we are already doing in a certain sense by combining the procedures of the planning committee and the BZA where appropriate. This will be an example of this. Find it in the procedure list. The eighth number is the use of landfills in mass in the form of landfills in order to encourage communities with higher rainfall and polluting income. This is a subject that, although it is usually handled by this committee, it is in fact the role of our committee. Therefore, they provide landfills. Then it will be discussed before the committee at any time the proposal arrives. And number nine is the contribution of land for the development of the Bar HaSaga. Same thing, the land is mainly arranged by the city council. I'm sure that if the planning committee has ideas or recommendations, it will be a dream. But really, the planning committee cannot contribute or sell land. We just don't have the flexibility or this role. So to sum up, this is what we need to focus on today. Okay, these nine factors and again, the conversation is open to others. Of course, it concerns many different aspects of a visit, some of which are extensive. Therefore, I encourage the people who are here to speak, to listen and to provide us with a solution and a tool. Not here, as far as it concerns the outcome of this meeting, the name itself is the reason why we are here. We are here to listen to the committee, residents, businessmen and so on, and then take it into account and present possible improvements along the way. Therefore, there is no action on the part of the planning committee tonight except for part of the public hearing itself. With that, I will transfer the authority of the speech to Adrian who will pass and relate to each cause and where it can be found under our leadership. Thank you, Sergei. Adrian. Good evening, everyone. Adrian Killing from the Community Services Department. Sergei more or less covered the nine topics for discussion. I will enter a little more detail and also provide a background on all the work and discussions that took place about the tour during the last two years. So to start with these nine points, in the columns you received, there was a document called a work document, and we will keep this document as a work document. As soon as our divorce applications arrive at the end of the year, we expect to continue to build on this document. So we started this as a framework for each of the nine points to show which U.D.O. cases are likely to be affected or investigated. And after that, it also describes a few things that Carmel does in terms of these nine points. So, Amam, we will leave this document active, and again, it was in your files and it is in Laserfish, in a public file that was sent to everyone, where we will keep all the descriptions exactly as we do with every other file number. This section simply does not have an official document, but all the correspondence and information regarding public use and this topic will remain in the LASERFISH document under the section of community services, planning and documentation. So, I will not dedicate much time to this because you know, there are many words and a lot of technical information here. but to enable development in a higher range of duplexes, triplexes and quadriplegics in the areas intended for single-family homes. This will be mainly in the part of the Yehud stores in Udo and in the He'al stores, in terms of limiting the use of local allowances and of course in a similar way in article 3 regarding the He'al stores. Amam, what part? Part of our top stores, like the Home Place, the Old Town and the Range Line, already include a few uses that are mainly for residents and have interesting information based on use and based on shape. So these can be things to consider. And then, of course, our definitions. Karega, seif ha-hagdarot hu kol ma'amar 11 meh, ve'ad tav. Yesh lano ha-hagdarot li megurim chad mishpachtiim, yechidot smudot, yechidot ezer, u megurim du mishpachtiim, aval karega anachnu lo mabdilim sub shimush avor triplaksim o kuaderopalaksim. At the moment, these units, which may be in a smaller size, are simply combined with all kinds of multi-family dwellings. So, there is no need to buy the size or the size of the building. So, that's it. You know, our definitions are something that can certainly be re-examined. What we are doing in this category is removing minus 89% of the designated land of Karmel from dwellings. Mainly, it's only for single-family residents, but 89% of our land does allow residents. And it's not just in residential areas. We have several business and residential areas that do allow residents to live in them. Building other types of housing includes temporary units and dilapidated housing. Again, these will be, as I mentioned, the available uses in the IUD sites and the available uses in the HAL sites, and then the development plans in action. We do not have, in fact, we do not have specific standards for the development of maintenance units, except for what is already defined for each other maintenance structure, whether it is a framework or another type of external structure. The MAM-9 is our procedures. The MAM is what is needed, and what needs to be checked, as well as the specifications. The MAM Regarding what Carmel is already doing, from the Old Town Overlay C1 and C2, the MAM does allow one-second use when allowed. Amam, like Chen, Amem, even though it is not the main station, the West Clay village pub also allows for two-room units. Amam, modular homes, are private homes, and they are arranged by the Ministry of Housing and Urban Development, HAD. Amam, and I, I believe that there is a wider conversation that takes place at the federal level regarding them. Amam, and then modular homes are usually treated as one family building. Amam, I think there are a few, eh, maybe a few things of tests and policy that we need to determine about them, but mostly they are simply treated as one family building. Reuse of customized commercial buildings for residential uses. Amem. Ah, shuv, seif 2, et kol mechuzot hayiud, amem, e, efshar haya livchon, aval kfi she tsyanti, rabim mi mechuzot haasakim shelanu kvar mefshirim mechuzot megurim. Amam, imzot, hamechuzot B1, B2, B8, ve-emeyot, amem. Lo mefshirim, e, beikar mechuzot megurim, amam, kizchut. Yesh kama charigim ba mechuz MC. Ah. Tziyanti et ma she anachno osim heitev, amem, shimush choser mut'am shel hamivnim atsmam. Ani choshev she ze, ze yoter al besis mikre partani. Amem, kshe histakalno al tochnit tat haezor shel misderon US-31, sochakhno im kama anashim al, amem, haefsharut lehasev mivnim mizchariyim li megurim, veze yachol liyot dai yakar behitchashev betasritey hakoma hu dvareim kaele. אז, אנחנו לא יודעים אם זה מבחינה כלכלית, עמם. בר ביצוע ברוב המקומות, אבל זה משהו שאנחנו בהחלט יכולים, אה, בהחלט לחקור. אה, הגדלה נוספת של יחסי שטח רצפה מותרים באזורי מגורים רב-משפחתיים. עמם, סעיף 2, עוד 1, עמם. עוד 1. Amem. Amem. Amem. Amem. What we are doing now, we usually do not use standards of floor area ratio in Udo. But multi-family apartments are allowed in some of the commercial areas that already allow higher buildings and smaller spaces. It may be worth increasing the floor area ratio. And for those who don't know, floor-to-floor ratio is the connection of each floor-to-floor of each floor in the building compared to the floor-to-floor ratio itself. So, if you are allowed a higher floor-to-floor ratio, it usually means that the building can be higher and the building area larger due to smaller spaces. They impose on or cancel improvements such as full list requirements. Amem is trying to get over this quickly, but it's going to be a lot from chapter 5, which is development plans, and a lot of the gaps and different things that are in the specific areas are in chapter 2. So I think it's going to be pretty obvious throughout this list. Amem. But regarding roof repairs, we do know that in Pud there must have been a trip and a gift regarding roof repairs in line with the style they are used to. But outside of the Old Town Overlay, where we are trying to adapt to five old-school living standards in the area, there are no specific features for roof repairs in Udo. Then this is something to look at and to think about the potential when new PUDs will come. A minimum migration size and floor area. Again, areas of location and development plans of areas. This is in terms of all the areas that allow residents. However, what is specific to our order in section 5 is the development of a general residential development plan. There is a minimum of 23 square feet for single-family and two-family units. So this is a potential area. However, I don't think we need to enter into details about this, but in general, again, all the areas are not allowed to be residential. What Karmel does well in this context is to change something unique, which is that the Old Town Overlay District uses the existing block context for pre-stores. So this is a more professional and form of a store that can be checked in other areas. Shopping outside the street. We have a few orders of shopping stores in section 5. Amem, what we do well is that in some of our areas, like UC, UR, urban neighborhoods, Liba, and Meridian-MC, these housing requirements are simple and allow housing locations on the street to be considered one-to-one for housing locations that are required outside the street. Another example is the Old Town Overlay District. There are a few different features in the Old Town Overlay area, but in general it allows to reduce parking spaces by minus 50% to adapt to complex area conditions. Along the main street of the station, small alleys of minus 3,000 square feet will be exempt from parking requirements. וזה אכן מאפשר הסכמי חניה משותפים עם דרישות שונות לשעות C. כמו כן, מחוז ה-Range Overlay מחריג את השטח במטרים רבועים של קומות שנייה ומעלה מחישובי חניית רכב. אז אלו תחומים שבהם אנחנו כבר לוקחים בחשבון כמה דרישות חניה. תקני תכנון שמקבילים או עוסרים שימוש במוצרי בנייה התואמים את הקוד. AMEM. Again, outside of the All-Town Overlay area, there are no demands for residential building materials. But again, in many of the PUDs, these demands are maintained and met in this process. And regarding property height limits. Again, we are looking for development plans in phase 2 of the planning areas and the overlay areas. Another example of what Carmel is doing is that the Old Town Overlay is used in the context of the block and in neighboring buildings for high-rise buildings. Amem. Sergei is already a little short when it comes to planes 6 to 9. Amem. We talked about the impact of parks and fences. Shortening or resolution of the process. זה הכל מפורט בסעיף 9 של האודו. אני לא זוכר כמה זמן עבר, אבל היה תהליך דיון משולב אולי לפני 10 שנים. אני לא יודע. This was a kind of timing, but as Sergay said, if there is a project that requires permits from the Planning Committee and also from the Planning and Construction Commission, there is a process that allows to combine these permits for one process and one meeting route, by permit or by notification to the City Commission. This allows a deadline for our development partners and for those who are going through the process. There are certain cases in which the use of a use permit is carried out, especially for the process of consulting the authorities on the planning and construction of certain types of fences, which shortens the time of the fence and the time of the process. And the construction of the fence has previously used main fences. Then in the case of a development that may be larger, that may include only 10 different floor plans. They used the main process to help improve the design of those similar structures. And finally, as stated, the availability of property and the contribution of land, the MAM, are more extensive political issues than outside the United Development Command. The MAM. Maybe you're wondering, I hope the Planning Committee doesn't ask, but maybe you're wondering where you can find the United Development Command. The MAM maybe, or maybe everyone has already changed it. Kamoni? No, really. Amam, you can go to the website, caramel.in.gov. Vamem, there are a few ways to get there, but if you go to units and services, Amam, we are a community service unit. So, walk with the bag over units and services. Amem, you can go to Lamed. . . . . . . . . . . Amem, you can click on this unique development command, and it will take you to an electronic version where you can search and click between all the different modes. Amem, as I mentioned, mode 2 is based on the nine rules. It's going to be a very popular topic, like the above and the development plans. Amem, there is also a PDF file for those who are used to looking at it in this format. Either way, Amem, the information is the same information. Amem, then I've already spent enough time. Well, wait, while you're there, you can show everyone the interactive map, because they're moving on it and saying S1, S2, R4, R5. Thank you.

Amem, we have a map of the city that shows which location there is in each location. So if you guess Amem Aifa's orders are complete and what is the location, she can show you Aifa to find it very quickly.

So, Amem, we returned to the interactive map. Of course, it was the text language above. You can go to the map language. Vav. The map of the location will pop up, and you can approach the MAM, search by writing, and enter a letter. Slides and indicators The MAM, you can activate and select different slides of location locations. So, the MAM, it allows you to see where all these locations are located that we will continue to talk about. תודה על התזכורת הזו. לפעמים אני שוכח מהדברים האלה שנמצאים ממש מול העיניים שלי בכל יום. ואז הלשונית הזאת כשאנחנו כאן, אם אתם רוצים להתעמק בכתובת מסוימת, זה עמם יקפיץ עמם. זה יקפיץ מידע על מה אפשר, מה מותר בחלקה וכבי בניין ודברים מהסוג הזה. אז, תודה על התזכורת הזאת. עמם. אני רוצה גם לעסוק, עמם, בקצרה. עמם, בזה, בנושא הדיור. עמם, כמו שסרגי ציין, עמם, הרבה קורה בתחום הדיור, ועמם, למרות שאנחנו בנקודה הזו בדרישות שלנו לפי, עמם, חוק 101 של בית הנבחרים. Amam, the discussion, I have already talked about the document of work, the discussion has been going on for a long time. So, Amem, we hope that we have a initial advantage in creating a few solutions. Amam Sergei pointed out a lot of these things that two blue dots, you know, there is the power of the mission of the mayor of the city that was established in 2004, the one that continued to the advisory committee of the mayor of the city from 2005 until today. Kama mechkarim azoriyim betevot asgulot. Ze bein mechkar hadiyur shel Merkez Indiana u mechkar hemshech le mikasum erech hakarka sheze ata pursam. Veaz habuot haadumot hen hapeulot hachakikatiyot she nachatu alenu. Az kol hadvareim haele veod harbe dvareim mem, atem yodim, hadirektorion sheli bediuk pirsem girsa acharona leseker haadafot hadiyur shelem. Then the tour is in the head of the priority order of many different places at many different levels. So, it's complicated. My mother-in-law did not spend much time on it. The task force for the tour met around 2004 and my mother-in-law collected information and then reached out to work on a list of recommendations and findings. Ha'etgarim shehem zihu hayu machsor behetzea, bikush gover u meshtane, tzfifut u tzmicha, zminut kalkalit u fituach kalkali. Vehayu hayu ot kama achirim. Aval amemi haduach shekoach hamesima ladiur, piteach notzar sviv haetgarim haele, vehem amem beseptember alpayim esrim ve'arbaa pirsemu sidra shel hamlatsot. Amem. There are 13 of these. I will not read them all, but the criticism signs and the small widgets here clearly indicate that Elan is currently in a process through the advisory committee for the visit of the head of the city. Then the first was to continue the efforts of the task force for the visit. We did it. Now we have an advisory committee for the visit. Amem No. 5 was to focus on the development of a missing interior. Amem, earlier this year we started working with Optikos Design on a research on the issue of missing interior. So, it is in progress with the advisory committee of the mayor of the city for a visit, Amem, which appreciates the current facilities, Amem, which is Amem. Based on a broader basis, but also through the study of Optikos, there is some assessment through the analysis of missing interrelationship. The MAM is the creation and publication of a series of maps and data in order to communicate the MAM and analyze the existing MLA and the resulting results. AMAM recommends that no. 10 is in production and in the process of recycling or re-development of commercial properties and partially occupied shopping areas. AMAM, we are reviewing this, of course, through the US-31 regional program. And then, when we look at the website of UCNO, So, and always, we are actively looking for cooperation and new opportunities at the local, regional and state level. This is not only with tourism. This is always, amazing, this is a permanent category. Adrian, I think there was one more, with a one-back parking lot. Yes, the purchase of green areas. In fact, our city center, Isra, is a purchase site of a number of dunamis of land next to Metal Ark Park, and it's just amazing. אז, זה כנראה מסומן בירוק אם לא עבודה בתהליך. כן, אנחנו יכולים לסמן את זק בתהליך. אז, עמם, דברים קורים בתחום הדיור, אני מניח שזה המסר שאני מנסה להעביר. עמם, הוועדה המייעצת של ראש העיר לדיור. עמם, את מקד מעט בהמלצה שמונה, הערכת תקנות הייעוד הנוכחיות וסדרת המפות. Amem, that these conclusions, and there are maps and data and all kinds of things, Amem, behind this information, Amem, which is connected to the Alasar Fish. But, from among our designated lands, Amem, as I mentioned, 89.9% of our population, of our land, allows for the use of settlements. 76.8% of our land, only allows for the use of land blocks for one family. 12% allow for a visit that is not for one family, and almost 11% of them do not allow for living at all. As for the fillers of the visit, Amem, Hamlaihu, Amam, almost 70% of our visit is houses of flat land for one family. Amem, more than 51% of all our housing units are with four bedrooms or more, and 72% of our housing units are with two floors or more. So, Amem, if you need it for a few things, Amem, in principle, Hamlai is a complement to what Yehud allows. Caramel is mainly composed of private houses on the ground floor. Amem, PUD companies have presented several types of additional housing. Amem and one-family homes, based on their size, have a number of bedrooms and two floors, mostly intended for families. Therefore, the conclusion is that there is a need to adjust in order to smoothen the markets and the changing demography, while maintaining balance with existing neighborhoods. Amem, in order to add another percentage of perspective, 31% of Bkarmel households. Including someone under the age of 18, at minus 35% there is someone who is between 60 and above, and then minus 19% of our household lives alone. So we can start to see how our stock is and the potential demand is no longer the same. Amam, az elu hadvareim sheh havaada hameyaitzet shel Rosh Ha'ir lediyur dana behem, kmo gam sochnuyot memshaltiyot rabot acherot, hatzaat hachok, ve hadiyun kulo sovev sbiv ze, lecad machsor klali ba hetzea ba rama haartzit. עמם זה חשוב כי גילאים שונים וסוגי אנשים שונים זקוקים לסוגי דיור שונים בשלבים שונים של חייהם. אז אם נוכל עמם להמשיך לבנות יותר סוגי דיור, אז זה אולי עשוי ליצור תנועה בשוק. Amam, maybe there are people who are still holding on to their big family homes and haven't moved because they haven't found anything in the caramel that they would like to move to, but they want to stay here. You know, it can destroy the market, and people who live in smaller homes can move to these homes, and so on. Amem, mentioned the issue of missing the middle home. Amem, the committee is now concluding the study of the missing medium. Ah, and this is a complex summary of a missing medium or a planning operation, again through the introduction of such a medium, and several test sites that help determine physical and economic conditions when it comes to a missing medium. So, Amem, this discussion is still going on. A mem, for those who do not know, a mem, a visit, a missing middle, includes a variety of types of visits with many units, which are more similar in size to private houses than to apartment buildings. Then, e, to ask and look at what is in the middle, between private houses, land blocks, to large apartment buildings. Ah, אנחנו חושבים שאולי יש הזדמנויות ליצור חלק מהדיור הזה בקרמל עם מעט הקרקע שנותרה לנו. עמם. דיברתי יותר מדי זמן. עמם, אבל חשבנו שזה מאוד חשוב לתת רקע. אנחנו יודעים שדיור הוא נושא חשוב לכולם. Amam to the people who live here, to the people of Shin, Amem, develop here, and promote from a distance. Amam, this is important at all levels. So, we wanted to give a good record, and Amem, as long as we continue on, I encourage us to determine what we want, where we want it, and how to do it. Ah, and I'm sure we'll be able to find solutions that are comfortable and suitable for the character, suitable for the character of Carmel. So, thank you. Thank you very much, Adrian, Amam, and thank you for preparing the work document. Amam, so now we want to hear from you. For every change in the adjustments that will be made at any time, there is a process. he will have to go through the planning committee and the city council. In addition, any recommendation that comes from the planning committee, if it requires any changes, will go through this process. We want to hear from you. We want to hear about the type of planning that you want and that you need. Every proposal you have regarding our UDO, specifically what is specified in A101, as far as you think we are doing well, what do you think requires changes and proposals? We really want to hear from you. So in the handshake, how many A's would want to speak here? Nehedar. Amam, az ma shenaseh hu anatchil ima memi shalosh dakot lechol adam, uvrik yaf'il et ha-timer, shekolel yarok, sahov ve-adom. Then when you get closer to the end of the time, it will turn yellow. Red will sign E to end your words. So what we would like each of you to do is to raise one by one, to represent yourself, to say in general where you live, and then please with them to represent your ideas. We are excited to hear it. Amen, so that it will progress. Amen if it can form a line, so that when one person ends, the next person will be able to move quickly, it will be excellent. Then we will start, from those who want to start first, please stand up. First, sign your name, introduce yourself, and whoever thinks he wants to continue next in line, if you can stand on the side, it will be great. Ah, and I see that we have the list there, if anyone needs to remember, if you agree with one of these issues, it will be great too.

Amem, first question. Will the camera fall down like it was before?

The camera is on you and you can see that we are live. Ah, ah, there, yes.

Perfect. Okay. Amem, my name is Charles Dmeller. I spoke to you before. Ah, I bought my house in minus 1980. I live in the second oldest neighborhood of E. Carmel, called Johnson Adishen. Ah, she finds two and a half blocks outside for the mansion. She finds a block and a half outside for most of the art and design. And four years ago, the Planning Committee and the City Council did what was unprecedented. They built a building between six floors next to a residential neighborhood. And I built my home in Minus 1989. It was a very nice private area. And when our neighborhood found out that this was happening, we raised $10,000 and hired a lawyer to help us. Ah, and we failed. But what I want to show you here is just a little. This is my broom. I built it for myself in 1989. Ah, unfortunately, I don't see the two high floors, and I know it doesn't look so good. It doesn't focus. But amazing. Binyan gavoha ufachot mirevach nesiga zo habaaya hamedoyeket sheyesh li karega. Bou nedamyen kol echad ve achat mikem, chelkechem lo mevogarim mespik, hahorim shelachem kanu et habayt sheani gar bo. Gartem sham veaz achshav habinyan hagadol haze ben shesh hakomot. Ken, ze kzat yoter tov. Habinyan hagadol haze ben shesh hakomot magia. Amen. And when the building between the six floors entered, our lawyer tried to lower it to four floors. You can see the back there, the back of the spine, my bones on my spine. Well, now I want to show you and place it here and place it here. How does it look now? So, take this into account what you saw. And now look at this. It's a hey. And I don't know if it will succeed or not. You can see a big tree. You can see a tree here. You can see a tree here. My privacy will work. And that's because of the decisions of Carmel Planet. I want you all to think that this is your home. Ad kama haitem smechim im ze haya kore lachem? Haiti rotze gam lehazkir nose acher le gamrei. Agav, lefizi lo, erech habayit sheli yarad bet minus 100,000 dolar beharba shanim. Kchu zot beheshbon im ze haya habayit shelachem. Okey, hadavar haakaron sheani rotze lecayen, lema hadurat Johnson yesh nesigot shel 35 regel. Ani mevin shevariyatsiyot yacholot lehiyot tovot, aval ze she ata yachol lekabel varyatsiya, lo omer she ata tzareek leharchiv et godel habayit shelach al migrashim. I want you to think about it for every caramel place.

Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you very much. Next in line. Anna, introduce yourself. Absolutely. I'm Lacey Aver. I'm here on behalf of my union. I really just want to dedicate a few minutes to say that we are very grateful for the efforts of the committee and of everyone who is dealing with the problems that were presented by 1001. Liz Amin's organization is ready to help with many of the needs that are coming up. We are here to help with this. We know that there will be many things that will happen with all the cities in the center of Indiana, and we suggest the same thing for other cities. We really just wish for the work of the task force for tourism and the tourism committee. Building more tourism, the key to this request is the key. We are unable to meet the requirement of people who want to live here or even people who want to move between these areas in the community. So, we are very supportive of this. We are here to help, and that's all I have to say. Thank you very much and we appreciate your help. Thank you.

Good evening, I'm Scott Leu. My wife and I moved here, we moved to Karmel, before minus eight years ago. We are in the Indimem area, minus 96. We are alone at home with four bedrooms on the western side, in a neighborhood of single-family homes. So in not many years, we will look for smaller apartments. First, I would like to thank the city, the task force and the city council for considering this important issue. The task force's report from September 24 is doing a very good job in describing the current situation, including the need for additional city council opportunities that people can access themselves. I want to talk about three groups of people who are most concerned about me. These are people who want to live in Caramel, but are having a hard time doing so. The groups are adults like us who want to move to a smaller home, young professionals like our son who works at Caramel but can't afford to live here despite a good salary. And thirdly, people who work who are great for the community and the community supports them. These are people like teachers, volunteers and many others. I think Caramel will be a strong place and my friend even more if more of these people will be able to live here. Last week, I participated in a visit to Hasut Meibor. The keynote speaker was Ed Pinto, the director of the visit that was held in front of the Congress and in many other places. He said that, in fact, the laws of planning and renovation have become the first to be unlawful. In addition, there are three actions that are the most effective in this transformation. They are a reduction in the size of the migration in new inhabited areas, the ability to create a dense environment in existing areas, and the ability to build inhabited areas that are not inhabited. It is noted that Texas has made these changes only in the past year and they are already introducing a new and significant change. It seems to me that Kermel has the same opportunities. It is necessary to develop a 31-way road system and this needs to include many tourism opportunities. Tourism approaches are lacking, which are being tested by the Tourism Board. If they do it in a conscious way, they will allow a dense traffic in many areas of Kermel without harming the neighborhood. I know that the latest changes in the income from the property market have affected the budget of Kermel and many other cities in Indiana. I think that the changes related to tourism will improve Kermel's financial situation. Bniyat עוד יחידות דיור מבלי להוסיף הרבה תשתית חדשה היא טובה כלכלית לעיר. הסקירה הציבורית הערב נועדה לאסוף הערות על עדכוני העודו סביב תשעה גורמי מפתח. אני לא מומחה, אבל עבדתי קשה בשנים האחרונות כדי ללמוד על סוגיות המשפיעות על הדיור. על סמך מה שלמדתי, אני תומך ברוב תשעת הגורמים המפורטים. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Shalom, I am a young professional who has been living in Caramel since 2023. For reference, I currently own a room of a little less than minus 65 square meters. In the near future, personally, I intend to continue to remember because of the flippant nature of my work and all these things. However, there are people my age who have already moved here. So, I want to relate to this. Many people my age have smaller families. They have less cars in their homes instead of their neighborhoods, and therefore tend to be less distanced from the previous generations. When they choose to live in Karmel, their only possibilities are to buy apartments that do not have enough space, to buy or own a townhouse, or to buy a private house that may be too big and expensive for their needs. With all the new buildings that are being built, it prevents the general trend from turning into something that contributes to the transition from private homes. Bigger Buildings A private home comes with a relatively large space. If you have to keep the house to yourself, repair and repair costs are high, especially if the house requires repair. One of my friends who bought a private home two years ago learned this by heart. והוא סיפר לי הכל על זה. בית טאון האוס הוא אופציה אחת למשפחה קטנה, אך אפשרות יחידה בין דירה לבית פרטי עשויה לא להיות הפתרון לכולם. and the purchase of an apartment tends to be small and the lack of privacy between neighbors. What we need is the possibility to choose how to live, especially in multi-generational homes in which adults take care of their elderly parents. For example, giving the possibility of living as a right, such as second-hand housing units, Kog houses, and multi-unit companies, gives people the option to keep something without the commitment of a large house, the lack of privacy and the space in the apartment, or the lack of the possibility of housing. Giving people the opportunity to make a difference in their lives and their desires in the realm of existing tourism will allow more people to thrive in our community. People want to be able to hold on to what they can give to themselves and to thrive in it. For the sake of the matter, I understand the need in private homes and do not want them to take from those who want this option. I would like to see Kermel expand the possibilities of tourism, not limit them. I heard many times from my friends that Kermel cannot be a city for everyone. Hi, thank you for giving me something. Ah, my name is Mark Vishar.

Ah, אני גר בית, במיטאון ברוב הזמן. עמם, קוראים לזה פרקס אידווילג. עמם, הדאגה שלי היא לגבי דיור בר הסגה, ואני סקרן לדעת מה היה ההיגיון בהגבלת הסחירות באזורים מסוימים. אני, אני לגמרי פספסתי את זה, כי אה, ההגבלה הזו כמעט אך ורק מגבילה את הדיור הזול יותר. Amem, there was a man, a couple in my neighborhood. They wanted to give their son to move to their house and they moved. They couldn't. You didn't approve of it. He sold the house because, oh no, there are already too many apartments to rent in the neighborhood. I was in shock. I said, what really happened? He said, no, they wouldn't let me do it. I, I would have simply refused it. I, I couldn't believe it. But the cost of living or the cost of compensation, as I said, almost only affects the living in a low price that is almost not valid at the moment. It becomes almost not valid, often, for many times that people pass. Yesh li neches lehaskara bashchuna. Az ani be'alim shel echad mehem. Amam, aval ha'adon she shachar oto, hem anashim sofer nechmadim. Olay b'nkuda mesuyemet hem ya'avru le karmel. Ho po rak lishnatayim, oved avur, ru. Ah, he's only here for a short time. He needed a visit. He has two kids and a dog. He's not going to remember the condo apartment. Amem, that won't happen. He, he said, that's the only thing I could find. I said, well, that's great. And that was a few years ago. He's still there. He'll probably be there soon. But I, I assume that I, I'm completely confused about why it happened. There are more expensive neighborhoods that already have limits on what can be mentioned, but these were originally from the neighborhood committee. But at this point, Carmel intervened and said, Hi, we're going to tell you what you can do with your home. I would have loved to hear something like that. That's all I have.

Thank you. Mr. Sergei, I think that the negotiation that he is talking about, it was a team that established the city council, which since then has significantly changed thanks to the state's legislators. Is that true? So this is indeed different and true for now, it is still in full swing, and this and how it has passed, or at least most of it. Amazing, but there is a slight injury on the side of the state that will enter into full swing in a little more than a year.

How can I get more information about this?

The meme that I was following after the protests. The state of Indiana expects pretty good protests and also follow after our social media. We expect these protests from time to time as well and the discussion committee is a great resource. And you can also contact your city council member. So thank you very much. Thank you. Hi, thank you. My name is Maria Onist and I run a property management business. Amam, thank you for giving me something. I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for giving me something and I have the right to manage the daily activity of one of the newest communities of Karmel, Misleo et Karmel. We will be a community of 350 houses built for a fixed salary of 146. The design of the building is new in many ways, including the way in which we think and take a tour of the building. The community is a product of residential buildings or partners that are visually and physically integrated in the neighborhood of the area intended for sale. Law 1001 allows for a higher-level development in areas that were originally planned for residential homes and BTR communities, such as Leo et Carmel, were built for this purpose and we do not allow existing homes for one family, which means that there is no competition with potential buyers or a shortage of property for sale from the market. This model of community and housing adds quality purchasing opportunities at any stage of life without limiting the exit or the availability of housing for sale. A family-owned development facility like this allows additional types of accommodation, along with an accommodation and professional accommodation team on the site, which provides a level of accommodation that usually goes up to what we know with housing authorities or private housing owners. There is a strong belief in my company, Ed and Nir, that animal management is vital to building successful communities that add to communities like Carmel, and they have direct control and responsibility over the maintenance of our animals, and we believe that this is part of the development of the business. When we talk about rental communities and residential housing for community members, there is a widespread concern on the part of neighbors and urban leaders about the demographic that lives in these properties. Our Hallyu communities are designed to meet people in different stages of life, and we have a wide range of friends who are of great value to our community. These include young families who want to move from apartments to apartments, but still need to save money. Parents of children who have left the home, who move from the owners of the home and are looking for comfort and comfort without leaving their Karmel community. People who move an apartment for work and need a place to settle in this community before they officially rent a house. It is advisable to add that the average age of the first apartment owners tends to rise above the age of 42, and Leo in Karmel provides such a lifestyle at home, not to mention the burden of renting a house. The meeting today stated, you know, to discuss the meaning of these changes for communities, the contribution of mobile land, and things like that. And Leo's basis is, love this, this, love each other. It's about being a good neighbor and encouraging others to do the same thing. It's to build opportunities to improve the experience of our neighbors through quick service, difficult and progressive for them. This is KNE Mida, and I just want to thank you for allowing this to be part of the neighborhood. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Shalom! My name is Simon Gahu. I have been a resident of Karmel for 26 years. I moved to Karmel in 1999. I want to talk specifically about part of the experience we have. Recently, we received a request from this committee to develop two of our businesses. The migrations are in the R3 area in Whom Place, and were intended for duplexes, and we asked to build a triple-axe, it was two months ago when we arrived at this meeting and we messed up, vav.

Only the short one and saying that I want to fix you, it wasn't this meeting, it was at BCA.

Ah, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. In any case, we were pleased when we saw this document and heard that Karmel was adding a piece of knowledge, a piece of knowledge of the public, in order to... You know, nine points, the first point is the increase in altitude, so the migrations that we want to develop from duplex to triplex, you know, it fits this general description. Nothing, I'm not complaining about anything, I just want to see that this process can continue, and I hope it will happen at the beginning of the next year. I think I heard that at the beginning of the next year there will be a program that will work. This is what we are waiting for. And so, this, the hope that we would know about this development, and we still want to develop this area, simply the timing was not particularly successful. But I hope that issues such as the Bar HaSaga tour, as well as the Zamin B'Karemel tour, will eventually include changes that we are definitely expecting. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

Hello, my name is Joel Meisner-Heimer. I am writing for CCRC, Kermel Citizens, as a responsible planner. I lived in three different neighborhoods in Karamel, in a land house, when our children were young. And then we moved to a larger two-story house in Karolina Commons. And then we moved to a smaller land house in the Zipfut 0 neighborhood, in front of the Hey-60 Dunam complex of Bridges, which includes apartments for the salary of three and five children, in which the term will be re-defined. דבר אחד שמתסכל אותי הוא שקול. הצעה ששמעתי לאחרונה כוללת את המילה, יוקרה. בית טאון העוס יוקרתי, דירה יוקרתית, בית יוקרתי, הכל יוקרתי. And it's starting to get really confusing to me. But I think we're missing the middle, and I think we're missing the issue of economic stability. And we're not talking about economic stability. Every time I hear about the middle missing, they say, we can't force ourselves to turn it into an economic stability. It looks like it has to be equitable. Then I would like to move on to the 9 points quickly. One is to increase the development of a higher amplitude of duplexes, triplexes and quadruplexes. They have no place in our zero amplitude neighborhood, but today I was asked if it is only intended for new projects or that it can be included in residential neighborhoods that exist of land blocks. Number 2, building other types of housing. Today, I was asked if the second-hand rental units will be listed as rental units in the neighborhood, or if they will not be considered rental units at all, even though they are rented. Number 4, if you increase the rent, or I will comment on it because I do not understand what it means. Then number 5 regarding size and location, we have in the list. Many people told me that the masks were too small for the wheelbarrow, so it means that they are sold in private stores. I think it's a problem that there are small masks if it is not possible to insert the wheelbarrow inside them. And beyond that, regarding far-reaching building lines. I personally feel catastrophic when the houses and buildings are right on the street. And this wall also looks like a fire safety wall when they almost touch each other. And I'm worried about the pollution. Lately, we've seen floods, and everything is covered in concrete, and there's nowhere for the water to go, where will they go? And even though it doesn't seem to be related, I also see too many rural areas that are taking wetlands, which will lead to more floods. I think with them about a traffic jam outside the street. Amam, we have a bad road. On another day, a neighbor called me and said that I have the number of another neighbor, because there was a construction truck in front of the house and the impact truck could not pass. So, a traffic jam on the street, when we talk about a traffic jam outside the street, I think that's a problem. Amam, and I am very concerned about privacy, and when we talk about height limits, as Charlie said, Amam, I just think that we do not need neighbors to look at us from above. Amam, ובכן, עמם, לבסוף, הייתי אומר שאיול או קיצור תהליכים ולוחות זמנים, אה, פוגע ביכולת של השכנים להגיב למה שקורה ובאמת להבין מהם הפרויקטים. תודה. תודה, ג'ו. שמי רון האל, אני גר לאורך ספרינג מלרוד.

עמם, כשעברתי על זה, הבנתי שאנחנו בשלבי גיבוש של התמודדות עם ה-101. Amam, perhaps to add to Jill's explanation about whether it offers the opportunity for such a type of family visit to integrate into an established neighborhood, which in such a case the goal of Yiyud is to create unstable influences, not disturbances. So, Amem, because there are no definitions, I think, eh, I heard Adriane say about some of the triplexes, quadriplexes, these, whatever it will not be, Amem, I am, if it is allowed in Karmel, in an area of one unit, is it enough? Does it have to be allowed in all areas of the unit for one family? Amem, I did not hear, Amem, from the points that the factors were any kind of mandate. You have to have X percent of what it is. אז במילים אחרות, האם דיווח המלאי בית מינוס אחת בינואר האם זה יחד בסיס למדינה כדי אז אלה המשיך? וליצור השלכות לאיך זה יהיו שם. עמם זו שאלת הבהרה שהייתי רוצה לקבל עליה תשובה. עמם, כמו כן איך זה ישפיע על הסכמים או הגבלות קיימים לשכונות אם יש מגרשים פנויים בתוך שכונה קיימת? Amem, haim ze me'afsher lesug kaze shel shimush liyot mukhdar? Ah, kshani choshev al dupleksim, ani choshev al haskarot, aval haim ze bevaalut ha dayar, ha dupleks tripalaks haze? Amam, ata yodea, lelo hagedara, amam, ani choshev sheze mosif ha mimut. Amam, hadavar ha sheni hu shenire'e sheze meyusam al kol he'arim bimdinat indiana beofen achid. לא כל הערים זהות, התהליכים אינם זהים, מלאי הדיור שלהן אינו זהה. אז איך קהילות יקבלו קרדיט על היותן פרו-אקטיביות לעומת אלה שלא? עמם ושוב, אולי זה חוזר לאופן שבו הדיווח משמש את מדינת אינדיאנה. So these are my questions, and I assume that they are mainly about the influence on existing conditions in existing neighborhoods, and also on related uses if there is a suitable land, you know, to design such a development for people. How will it be managed so that again, it will not cause pollution? Thank you.

Thank you. Amam, in order to relate to one of your last points, you are completely right. At Carmel, we had a vision about our tourism and we learned a lot about the possibilities of tourism. So I think this is part of the book that we will compile to tell the story of how we got to where we are today. This is definitely part of the story, but because different communities are dealing with it, such as Kukomo or Pichers or Zansuil or Greenwood, or that you know, they're all not the same thing.

So it's true. For example, a process of 1-15 days. For one community, it may be a process of 45 days and another a process of 90 days. So how do you implement factors of this kind, or rather, I won't say it's a mandate, but a proposal, when the processes are so different and the diversity between communities is so different?

Thank you very much. The Minister's amendment is only a short one on page 101. This has developed a lot, it has changed a lot through the House of Legislators and what we have today. Maybe you can give a small general summary of what the document is, not what we will say, but in general what the document is, what is the framework of the document that needs to be added.

Yes, unfortunately, this is not really defined as what is supposed to be included in the document. That's the truth, really the truth about this. At least, the document requires permission for the use to exist. So this is the number one sign. The people, like you, must understand which development initiatives have been presented by the city, and in a specific way, whether Udo's reforms have been implemented or not, in the use of the people at least in some of the initiatives that have been proposed by the legislative bodies. As such, this specific document is not certain, but there is a need to discuss a lot of information regarding our city. So we will also work on this. This is independent of the planning committee. It is actually a collection of data at the state level. Part of it. To be honest, it will be difficult for the city to collect, but we will work with my committee and other organizations to collect this information. For example, the number of reservation units for the application fee, what is the estimated price for the reservation units and so on? What is the estimated price of the reservation homes for the purchase and so on? So it is a bit unclear how we are supposed to collect all this information, especially in a short time. It also requires that this information be collected for the current year. And of course, some of these documents will not be published until the beginning or during 2027. Then we will be informed that you will give an instruction from the state, and we will tell you what it really requires, hopefully in a much clearer way, but we are all waiting for it right now. What does it mean? Thank you for this explanation.

Amam, D. Hi, hello everyone, I'm D. Fuchs. I've been a resident of West Carmel for 30 years. ואו, ג'יל אמרה כמעט את כל מה שעמדתי לומר. אז אני לא אחזור על מה שהיא אמרה, אבל הסכמתי עם הכל. עמם, וב. אני אשלח לכם אימייל אחרי הישיבה הזו כי נאמרו כאן הרבה דברים הערב ואני צריכה יותר פירוט ותגובה ממה ששלוש דקות מאפשרות. But I will say that one factor is scary for everyone. And try to influence us to think that it is not scary, but it is scary. When is it possible to build a higher angle of duplexes, triplexes and porflakes in the areas intended for land lines? זה באמת מדאיג את כל האנשים הרבים שבחרו באיכות החיים שהם רצו כאן על סמך הייעוד וציפו שזה יישמר. ומם זה גם מאוד מפחיד עבור מערב קרמל, שיש בה הרבה אחוזות גדולות שיכולות להימחר, ומה יורשה לעשות איתן? האם יוכלו למלא אותן בית? Amem. Amem. Amem. Amem. I won't go over all nine factors, but ADUs are already allowed, and I think they need to go through the process because otherwise the neighbors' opinion will be destroyed. And I really think that Route 31 is a great opportunity to make a lot of these interrelated uses, a short distance between them. אז אני מקווה שזה מקום טוב לשים את זה במקום לפלוש לעזורים של בתים חד-משפחתיים. עמם. ואני מסכים עם ג'יל שלא שמעתי הרבה על דיור בר השגה. עמם ויוקרה. הכל יוקרה ומה, מה הסיבה לכך? כלומר, האם זה בגלל שקבלנים לא רוצים לבנות דיור בר השגה כי זה לא מניב מספיק כסף? אני לא יודע, אבל אני חושב שזה יהיה מעניין לדעת. עמם, אז אני אשלח לכם אימייל עם השאר. תודה. תודה, מצפה לאימייל. תודה, די.

עמם, חברת המועצה שנון מנר. למעשה, אני מגיעה כאזרחית, האזרחית שנון מנר. אוקיי. עמם, אז, א, זו שאלה ישירה ואני מכוונת אותה לעבר היועץ המשפטי של התאגיד. סליחה, יועץ התאגיד.

Amam, Mar Ha'el, mentioned agreements and agreements of the House of Representatives, and I think this will help me and the neighbors who are sitting here tonight and to everyone who listens, that maybe he will explain what agreements and agreements do to the land versus what is the meaning of the basic agreement, because I think we need to define it. ואני רק רוצה להודות לכולם על שהגיעו הערב גם. אני חוזרת לחבוש את קוב החברת המועצה והוועדה ואומרת תודה שהגעתם הערב והם ממני מעריכה את כל היערות שלכם. תודה. תודה רבה לך.

Yes, this is a very good question and I know that there was another question that was asked about the based neighborhoods and so on. So none of these regulations affects the agreements and agreements of the housing authorities. So if you already have a home, if you already have a base neighborhood for agreements and agreements, this is a private contract that you all, as residents of a certain neighborhood, signed to live there. So none of this legislation affects it. In fact, in the previous session, B-2026, a legislation was passed that increased the capabilities of housing authorities to arrange a visit to a housing authority within the housing authorities. It explicitly stipulates that the owners of housing authorities should be approved by the housing authorities. So, the State of Israel actually provides two incentives here. One is to increase the development of tourism within the cities, but also, as you know, to strengthen housing and private businesses through separate organizations within the neighborhoods. So yes, but this is not related to land ownership. Then land development is really the first step, right? You look at the development. You check the development map if you are involved in order to know what I can build in a certain part in a certain area in the city. And until the house, as soon as the building or neighborhood is built, it goes into operation. And until the house begins to operate. Then it is two separate developments, or more precisely, two separate stages in the development. But again, none of this is expected, and this committee or committee cannot influence your private agreements within the House Committee. So go over your amendments, find out what your limitations are, find out what you can do, organize and be active in your House Committees, because it is the fastest way to influence your immediate environment if you have a House Committee. What if you don't have a House Committee? If you don't have one at home, maybe you can organize one. Thank you, Sergei. Does anyone else want to speak? Thank you all. I will open the discussion for questions from the planning committee to hear your thoughts if anyone has questions and will start with anyone who wants to volunteer. Otherwise, I will just pass according to the order. Anyone who wants to start? I'll start. Okay, Jeff will start.

Amen. I played the tune we heard tonight. It was based on a wide range of issues and how it might affect people in the room. And I assume that one thing I heard, and it's possible to assume that, let me get to that in a moment. Amen. Amen. It's better to use some of my comments here. I'm going to forget a few things that I want to say. I'm going to forget a few things that I want to say. I'm going to forget a few things that I want to say. I'm going to forget a few things that I want to say. I'm going to forget a few things that I want to say. There is a need. I think the reason behind the strike was, let's build, let's solve the problem of the lock in the neighborhood. So I understand this part, but at the same time, some of the communities, maybe they tried to solve a problem that didn't have to be solved. Amam, Ron, I think that was your name, you mentioned. Amam, you know, the strike is going on all over the country, but maybe it didn't happen in the same way in every community. ואולי עמיתי בוועדת התכנון מרגישים המם באופן דומה. אני מניח שהמחשבה שלי היא שהגוף הזה או מועצת העיר, או אם מדובר בב-CA בנושאי דיור מסוימים. אני חושב שיש לנו הרבה דעות טובות. אני חושב שמם הקבוצה הזו והתהליך הציבורי שיש לנו עזרו ליצור תהליך פיתוח טוב מאוד. So, there is a good combination of public involvement, public hearing, the ability of the public to listen to his voice, to ask what is being tested or tested by a certain development in relation to existing improvements or what changes in new data or PUD are being done to bring to a certain level. So, what is interesting in this study is that there are parts of it that, at least in my understanding, are simply disappeared. And that compels our ability to make sure that we get what we want. So I assume that the reason I'm jumping at the end of the day, at least from my point of view, is that the process we have outside of what happened at the court will give us the wonderful community we have. It provides us with a good public process for changes, updates, and new developments, so that we can receive data from people instead of things just happening automatically. While at the same time I know that maybe we have a shortage of tour or that we are trying to solve a problem of more tour, tour in the bar or tour in certain areas. I think there are risks here that we need to continue to test, give and talk about them. I think it's a good thing to say. Amam Jonathan, I see that you are optimistic about something. Did you want to add? Yes, I am excited about some of the opinions of my friends. I appreciate everyone who came here and spoke tonight. You know, it's a challenge that not only Carmel or Indiana are dealing with. It's something that we're dealing with as a nation. I'll get to that from a personal perspective. As someone involved in the development of elementary schools in Indianapolis, it's intended to help reduce the number of visits. ואני יכול לומר לכם שלמרות שיש מיתוס שאם יש ביקוש לדופלקסים וטריפלקסים השוק יישע בזה והשוק יפתח את זה, זה פשוט לא המקרה. הרבה דרישות של תהליכים ונהלים מנפחים באופן מלאכותי את עלות הדיור, וזה לא נועד לעשות זאת. This just happens when you think about the land, the infrastructure, the services, all of this goes into the development of the neighborhood. And for the sake of perspective, we just built a house of 1,700 feet in Indianapolis and it cost $320,000. This was the development. Amam, and when we are talking about a tour of Bar HaSaga, we are really trying to create a tour that our parents, medical workers, and our service people will be able to live in. Amam, I had a conversation at a local restaurant not long ago, and the hostess told us, Oh God, I have a 45-minute trip home after Mishmeret, and I need to return here at 6 a.m. tomorrow. And I said, so why did you live 45 minutes away from there? And she says, I can't live here on my own. I can't live here on my own. I want to live here, but I can't live here on my own. And that was the moment when I realized that we really need to do something here to protect the local neighborhoods. We definitely want to do this and make sure that your investment in your property is maintained and protected, but we also want to make sure that we are a community of people who invite residents who want to live here, to build a family, or maybe just want to settle down and maybe move to an apartment complex, duplex or triplex. So, as I said, I appreciate everyone's comments tonight. This is a conversation that I will really love about it. And I'm really happy that we're managing this conversation. On the waiting side, I understand the meaning of the law. I think there's also a great idea that the transition in this process will automatically reduce the cost of living. I don't think it will happen, but I think it starts this conversation.

So... Thank you. Amam, Debbie. Amam, also I, appreciate that everyone is here and all your concerns. Amam, my concern along the way regarding this is that the 101st law of the House of Representatives exposes public expectations on cities and cities in Indiana that are very different from each other. And I agree with what John Tan just said. I don't know if the intention leads to a stand in expectations, because the communities are very different. For example, it will be a great support for the development of Pennsylvania, where it is close to Route 31. You have a lot of big barriers there. As long as these buildings will be re-opened, I think this is a perfect place for use in general, where it is possible to achieve high visibility without affecting any existing neighborhood in such a way that it will be attractive to the residents who live in them, because there is simply no name like that. And thirdly, Amem. Karmel is the number one place to live in because of the local heart that we dedicated to development. ואני, אה, את גולבי שמירה על הסטנדרטים הגבוהים של קרמל ובפיתוח הקרקע המוגבלת שנותרה לנו, או בפיתוח מחדש של הקרקע המוגבלת שנותרה לנו, באופן שמתחשב מאוד באיכות החיים שיש לנו כאן. זאת שתוכננה היטב לאורך עשורים רבים. תודה לך, דבי. עמם, אדם.

Yes, Kristina, I assume that I only have a general question on how the task force on the tour reached the simple issue of land application. In other words, we really don't have a free land. I can think of one part on the eastern side between street 106-116, the old property of Chuck Morgan. This is roughly the only open area left for us in Karmel.

That's a great question. Oh, and that's what we've known from the beginning. You know, Karmel is mostly built. There are more opportunities for new development than just land for development. Then it creates a variety of challenges. Ah, being an expensive building is one of them. As ze, atem yodim, karmel, ani choshev shekulchem amartem et ze. Ani choshev she anachnu nimtsaim eifo she anachnu hayom ki hainu ba'alei chazon. Hainu mechavnim legabei hasviva habnoya shelanu. Ah, ze lo kara stam be mikre. Ze haya, atem yodim, metuchnan heitev ve yesh lano kehila nehedaret sheba anachnu chayim. Amam, ve amem, ani choshev she anachnu adayin tsrichim lehavi et hakavana hazo, ulgabei hanekuda shelcha sheen harbei karkaot pnuyot. Az harbei mehasichah hu eize sub shel diyur anachnu behemet tsrichim. Where is this going to be? What is the right place and how are we going to do it? So, since we are mostly built, we have a lot more challenges that other communities did not have in terms of trying to create more tourism. However, I think that part of this vision, and I want to give the head of the town of Prinkeham so much credit for building the first mission to tourism in 2024. Amam, ki lemaytav yediyati, ani lo makir af kehila acheret she bachana et hadiyur behikef kor rachav kfi she asinu bet minus alpayim esrim ve arba, sham badaknu et kol sugey hadiyur u vachanu hakol kdey behemet laasot mlai shel ma she yes lano, ve az nisinu lehavin ma chaser, ve ech efshar lehoded et ze, ve eifo? Then this is the place where the new tour committee will continue. And one thing I do want to talk about is, you know, I heard a lot this evening about the initial houses or about this intermediate tour, and we talked about it also in the tour committee. However, if we leave it to the free market, I think we are willing to get townhouse houses. This is the means of transportation that we receive, but we understand that people want other types of short-term means of transportation. They want the small part of the cottages, like the small village of Engelnok, Amem, where you have your cottages. They want other types. So the conversation was really about how we find the place to do the type of transportation that our community really needs and wants. But we can't ignore the fact that we don't have the land that needs to be developed. We have small steps to fill and new development projects, that's what we're looking for. So, a great question. Amam, Mark, Tereza, Sue, each one of you. Thank you. Tonight there were great points, great ideas and great examples of what we've already built in Carmel and what we can build, need to build. Amam, I learned a lot. I... I think here you know why we don't progress with the initials Why don't we progress with 31? That is, this is the only land we have And yes, it just can't happen so fast And I know that But it already happened fast here And I just find all this with someone who is obsessed I find it very sad because we are talking about it And I think we are going to see some action And I feel very comfortable with it So I think this law proposal 1001 A kind of forced us to this. And I think we are so ahead of the game that I believe that it will be here what many of you want. We can't change a few things. Amem, but we have land. I look at it. We have the 31 and it suits me to the model of the type of tour that we don't seem to have. So, Amem, just thank you very much to all of you and I appreciate it. Tuda, toda lachem, Amam, chavrei mo'atza. Ken, ani be'emet ma'arich et kulam al shehigiu lechan ve'dibru. Amam, kfi she amartem, roshat ha'ir amra be'ferush shehichen rotsa lehagen al batim tsmudei karka, al shchunot shel batim tsmudei karka. Amam, az ze me'od margiya. Amem. Benosaf, ze kashay kan ki anachnu lo kmo af ir acharet bimdinat Indiana. אנחנו מאוד ייחודיים ובנינו את העיר בצורה מאוד ייחודית ומכוונת. אז, עמם. סו, אני אומר, אהבתי את מה שאמרת. אני שמח שאנחנו מקיימים את השיחה הזאת ואני עומם. זה הכל. תודה, מרק. כן, רק רציתי לומר גם שאני מרוצה מכך שכולם הגיעו ודיברו הערב.

Amam, אני מסכים עם חבריי לוועדה שהבית המפתח הוא של קרמל פשוט אין כמעט קרקעות לא מפותחות. אז, זה מכשול גדול. Amam, גם אני רואה בשימוש באזורי מילוי ובמסדרון 31. Amem, כנראה את ההימור הכי טוב שלנו לנסות ולהשיג קצת דיור ביניים. Amam, אבל חוץ מזה, Amam, אני מעריך את כולם.

Thank you. So, just to sum up, I want to thank Adrian and Sarah so much for the work you did in the presentation, and that was a lot of work. So, thank you very much. I really want to thank everyone who came. Ah, this is really an important conversation that needs to be held. And I know we're here because we needed to sign the V with the H1, but it doesn't matter why we're here. It is really important to continue this conversation and continue to continue it so that we know what our residents want to see in the tour, what they want to see in the tour, what we need to see, because in the end things will develop and we need this project. This really helps us all here at the planning committee level, because when a project is presented or when a change in UDO occurs, we have at least a little connection to think about what you like. No, we don't have new or old businesses. So we will leave. Thank you everyone.