City Council - Regular Meeting

meeting is now in session. We have audio. Would like to ask uh Council Member Smith to lead us in the invocation. Can we do a call to order first if that's all right, Mr. Mayor? I did call. I know. I'm just kidding. Can you everyone please stand as we do prayer?

Thank you, dearly Father. Thank you for once again an amazing day in Canyon Lake. Lord, a lot going on. Please let us be respectful of each other, Lord. Respectful of all the great things that are happening in Canyon Lake. Just be with all of our elected officials, both at the local level, Lord. Be with our PA members. I know that there are a couple of them here tonight, Lord. And I just want to say thank you for everyone who gives to their community, all the time and sacrifice from their family. and in your name. Amen. I was hoping that uh board member Jeff Bill could lead us in the pledge of allegiance. Ready to begin.

I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. You can be seated. Madame clerk, would you conduct a roll call? Mayor Pro Tim Castillo here. Council member Smith here. Council member Steber here. Council member Wati here. Mayor Terry here. Mayor, you have a quorum. I would like to uh request that our city attorney report out of close session.

Uh thank you, mayor. Uh for items one and two on the close session agenda, the city council gave settlement direction by a vote of five to zero. That is the end of our close session report. You know, if um if our council is okay with this, I would like to go directly to the consent calendar. You want to do it after ceremonial matters. Um we don't have ceremonial matters. Okay. Okay. Awesome. Let's do it. I'm good. Yeah, I'm good with that. I like that idea. Would anyone of our uh council like to pull a consent calendar item?

Yeah, let's pull six, please, if that's okay, Mr. Mayor. That would be terrific. If there's no uh public comments from the Madame Clerk on our consent calendar, I'll make a motion that we move the rest of the items with item six being pulled. We do have one public comment on a consent calendar item and that's Darcy Burke. Okay. Is that the item that I pulled, madam clerk? It is. Can we wait to hear that public comment when we address the item? Thank you. With that, uh, so what we're doing is we're voting on the remaining items, correct? Uh, with that, I need a motion and a second. I made the motion. I'm just looking for a second. Perfect.

Madam clerk, you want to conduct a roll call? Mayor Prom Castillo. Hi, Council Member Smith. I, Council Member Siver, hi. Council member Wely, I, Mayor Kerry, I. Motion passes. Perfect. Now, under consideration is item number six, a resolution opposing the proposed Crescent Garden Cemetery in the unincorporated Riverside County area of Metobrook. You want me to take this one, Mr. Mayor? Absolutely.

All right. So, this item has come up pretty recent actually. In fact, um, a couple of our folks in the room has made 87 news on this item. One of them being our water board member, Darcy Burke, and the POA board was even on TV, too. So, that was kind of cool. The project's not, though. We've received several folks um with issues and concerns with this property. So, we ask our city manager to put this item on the agenda to have a discussion on if this council is willing to send out a letter to Riverside Planning Commission and the supervisors um opposing this project. So the concerns for me and I'll just speak on on behalf of myself as a council member and what my residents have reached out to me on is right now there's a lot happening in Metobrook as most of you all know um in Lake Senor there's a KB homes project so traffic is already a nightmare um we've had several residents those that actually own property next to where this subject site would be that are concerned from environmental standpoint of what a cemetery would bring to the region. So, that's a concern as well. Um, and for me, I know that it's important as an elected official for the city of Canyon Lake and to listen to our residents. And I've received nothing but opposition on this project. I've received not even not even the developer themsel have reached out to us, nor nor should they. It's not it's not within our jurisdiction. It's just within our sphere. But there's been no positive conversations at least that I've had. If my colleagues have different, please let me know. But I think this is a very, you know, simple move on our part. Um, you know, I know that I've had meetings with both our supervisor Karen Spiegel and her chief of staff. I've also had a meeting yesterday with um, Supervisor Medina, who's this actually is in his district. It's district 1 and met with them and they appreciate the fact that this city is being proactive in how we respond to

certain projects around our area. So, um, I know from them they appreciate the residents of Canyon Lake reaching out to them. I think that's important that we continue to do that. It shows that we're being transparent and that we're communicating our issues and concerns. And I just want to say thank you to the residents of Canyon Lake who've taken upon themselves to send that email to their supervisor and also to myself and hopefully some of my colleagues. Um, but I'm for this. I think uh it's important that we stay connected with what's happening throughout the county and this project just happens to be in our backyard and we are impacted by it. I'm not a scientist. Um I don't know, you know, the issues when it comes to water quality issues. I rely on the experts for that and I know that talking to multiple board members on surrounding water agencies, this is a grave concern to them, no pun intended. So, with that in mind, um I think this is this is a no-brainer for us to to push this letter through. And I would ask the city manager that if this goes through that we send it um to all the supervisors. Um obviously Karen Spiegel is ours, but uh the planning commission as well.

Agreed. And just for clarification, um for those that are listening that have been following this, this is a process. This item probably won't be heard until September, possibly October at the county. It's got to go to the planning commission first. Once it goes to the planning commission, then it goes to the board of supervisors. For the most part, um the way the board of supervisors work, if the supervisor that has this project in their district gets opposing arguments. Most of the other board members would agree with that opposing view. They don't like to really go against each other in their own districts, but just wanted to give some background on on this particular item. Council member Smith, do we know if uh any of our neighboring cities like Lake Elsenor, Paris will be joining forces with us? Have any

Yeah, I've made contact with one council member in the city of Lake Elsenor. Um and they are not they doesn't bother them. No interest, you know. So, um I haven't talked to Paris yet. Um but as far as uh Lake Elsenor, no, I know that they will not be. Any other comments? I'm interested in hearing the public comment. Yes.

Try and keep it three minutes because that's all I have right for public comment. So, first of all, thank you for taking um or considering this action. Elsen Valley Municipal Water District is mandated to serve our customers. So, you're not going to see this on our agenda. We have issued a wills serve letter to this developer, which all that means is we have enough water should they build their project that we could deliver water to the project. That's all it means. We are preparing additional comments as it relates to water quality. Um, I've gotten a lot of heat over the last few months as it relates to golden algae and that all I care about is public health and water quality. You've never been so grateful that all I care about is public health and water quality. This particular project not only can impact groundwater, which we use for drinking water, but can directly impact surface water in Canyon Lake. And Canyon Lake is unique as a surface water reservoir, which we talk about all the time because it has body contact. So when you look at a decomposing body, the amount of toxins that are released into the environment into the earth, one big rain can make that groundwater basin come up and make that decomposing tissue come out. This is not something that's encased. This is not something that is sealed. This is something that is allowed to have a natural decomposing time. So our stance has been you'd have to do a ton of mitigation in order to make this project happen. The water quality expert we use both for the g golden algae pos and others the risk is too great to risk it. And those were his words to me this morning. He there's nothing you could do in his mind that would mitigate the risk to public health. And so I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you.

Thank you. Oh I'm I'm sorry. I am going to add that Mayor Terry, Councilman Smith, and I are going to have a coffee, a special coffee on Friday at 9:00 a.m. at the country club for discussion. City Council meeting is not the place for discussion to answer your questions and concerns. Um, for comments, yes, for discussion, no. So, we hope you join us. That's it.

M Mr. Mayor, I also, you know, I failed to mention that I actually think cemeteries are very and I think, you know, there's we have some gorgeous ones here in Riverside County. Um, but unfortunately when you look at the fact that we're next to a we are part of a reservoir that happens to be a drinking reservoir, I think that's where most of the concerns from our residents, at least that I've received, the emails, the text messages, and the Facebook instant messages um have all been actually very positive for cemeteries as a whole. And it's just we're next to a drinking reservoir. It's very simple. That's all it is. So, um I just wanted that to be I think it comes that's exclusively the reason. Yeah.

Um we do have a water expert. We're very fortunate that she's our director and I've had the opportunity to spend quite a lot of time with our director, Director Burke. um and so have you in the subject of golden algae

and during that period of time I have grown a much greater appreciation in the fact that we are a drinking reservoir and sometimes I don't think we pay enough credit to the point that it is a drinking reservoir and if the director in where I live director Burke opposes this that's I too oppose it. Yeah.

And I agree. It's too big of a risk. The reward is not there and um I'm happy to oppose. Uh we need any other comments. What do you need? I move. I'll second. Madam clerk, we want to do a roll call vote. Mayor Potm Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. I. Council member Steber. Hi. Council member Wely I Terry I motion passes.

All right, we're going to move back to presentations and we will begin with Elsenor Valley Municipal Water District Director Darcy Burke. Welcome back. Okay, so let's talk about golden algae because just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. I like to equate golden algae like shingles. when the conditions change, it'll be back. So, it's not gone forever. Um, but the good news is working with a number of stakeholders, we have a plan and we're going to respond. So, I want to thank the city manager um for participating in that. I know our general manager has, Leo has, the POA has, and we won't be in the same situation we are now. And that's immediate terms, immediate response. Next steps, I think we're going to look at different monitoring and sampling options. Especially monitoring, a monitoring system is only going to tell us key indicators that may lead to an incident like a golden algae outbreak or a blue green algae outbreak or pick a color at this point of an algae outbreak and then what would be the appropriate treatment. Um, and just so you know, treatment is not inexpensive. So, you looking at a lot of considerations. If we did not have body contact, it would be a lot simpler. We'd address it, we'd treat it, and we just we'd close it. Diamond Valley Lake, you just don't get to take your boat. Um, people that buy a season pass, oh well, they really don't care. They're going to treat the lake. They're going to take care of the algae, close it for however long they need to, and then move on. Um, similar things have happened in Lake. they've closed it for a number of of days and then as long as months before they open it up again and there's treatment. So it the body contact um and

the fact that it was a very lively fishery and I really feel for our bass masters and other fish fishing enthusiasts that are really suffering right now. So, um, obviously just one season of or sampling session of no detection does not mean you go and refill the lake. So, let's be clear about that. Um, on other issues in Elsenor Valley, we are halfway through our regional wastewater plant expansion. So, we've spent about $125 million. We have 125 million more to go on our Diamond Valley lift station and expansion there. We're tunneling, actually tunneling near Storm Stadium. You probably can't see it, but if you've been there, there's a big curtain there. And that's almost a 247 operation. And that will actually expand the sewer capacity, and we'll be able to connect the septic systems that are in Sedco and the avenues to our regional plant eventually. So, we're looking to finish that in a timely manner. We got about $125 million from the state of California to do that. And then what everybody's always asking me when is Canyon Lake Water Treatment Plant going to be addressed. So we are going to do something a little different. The price tag every day gets more. So we're going to take a step back and we're actually going to send it out as a design build because maybe somebody else has a better idea to value engineer some things out that could save us some money. But the time frame is still the same because we have grants and earmarks that we have to make sure there things are moving in order to keep that money eligible. So we're still looking at a similar time frame. We're just going to do things a little differently. And I think that's all I have for tonight. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Yes, sir. Um, how are you doing? Well, I'm I'm good. I'm really glad I spent my entire career in water quality and public information. As you saw me rudely reach over to talk to Aaron, I was telling him how much you have told me how you appreciate our relationship with your general manager and my city manager. Absolutely.

And the work that we're doing with the POA to do all we can to inform the community on what's happening. So, I want to say thank you, Darcy, because I know that you've pushed really hard for EVMWD to continue to bring in the city and use our resources. And I think Aeron's been really good at working with your general manager um to ensure that we're trying to message the same thing. So, I just want to simply say thank you. I know it's a lot of work. It's a lot of phone calls. Um you and I have been on the phone constantly and I know that our residents have asked a lot of us. Um, but I just want to say keep it up and and thank you. Seriously, I really appreciate all the hard work.

Well, thank you. And I have to really give some credit to my general manager. You know, um, when I got on the board, a lot of the things that we have spent money on in related to the current situation never would have happened. Yeah. My previous board would not have spent a penny extra. Just wouldn't have happened. And I think we've been able to come a lot farther than we were because bad feelings have healed and new people are actually sitting there. Um I'm hoping to make that go a little farther because I also understand where we are. Yeah.

You know, when you look at uh resources, we probably have more resources than most. But I'm also very aware that my responsibility is to all of the customers of Elsenor Valley. and my Prop 218 requirements do not allow me to take money from one customer to spend on the privileges of another. So trying to navigate that um has been very difficult. I also really want to thank publicly Metropolitan Water District who with 25 years of relationships have stepped up and provided services for Elsenor Valley and the POA and the city for free. Right. And that just not it just wouldn't have happened. Yeah. And I'm very very grateful for that.

And you know, you and I talk about this too and I don't think we give this man enough credit either, but Jeff Bill on the POA has a lot of water knowledge. Yes, he does. And I'm very appreciative that the POA has a board member like Jeff because the way you two talk about water, I can never keep up. But it's it's really nice that the residents know that they can call Darcy or Jeff and talk water all day long. And it makes our jobs a lot easier. So, I just want to say thank you. Thank Thank you, Councilman Smith. And I hope if people have concerns and they they're not on social media, first of all, God bless you and thank you for not being always on social media and airing it all out there, but call me. I will call you back and I I will be happy to answer your questions.

I too would like to thank you for being available. I mean, we had a great uh coffee at the country club. I think we had about 25 people attend. um wide range of questions mostly about water. Um but I I I really want our residents to know how fortunate we are that you have that accessibility that you can go have coffee and speak directly to your director at Elsenor Valley Municipal Water District. And um I I would um and your mayor. What? And your mayor. Yeah. Usually I get to sit there and let and hear them ask you questions.

Only recently. Um but uh thank you very much for being available. Thank you very much for going to the Bass Masters and other organizations and answering their questions as well. And again to Jeff Bill who I know has attended um on uh numerous occasions. And uh I think it's great for our community that they have that access when we do have these issues that they can come directly to us. and I encourage our residents to attend these events and and it it's really a a great treat if you if you're able to attend. Well, thank you for for participating. Appreciate it very much. Thank you.

Any other questions? We're good. Thank you. Next up from the Canyon Lake Property Owners Association, board treasurer Jeff Bill. I really think you need a taller microphone here. Mayor, Mayor Pro Tim, Council, thank you for letting me come in tonight. Um, with the POA, one of the things we want to put out there that's very important right now is school is back in session. We will have community patrol following the school buses and they will be citing people who violate the traffic rules. Um, our lake is important, but so are the kids. So, we are going to be enforcing that, and we will be enforcing it to the letter. So, I just want to let everybody know. Don't say you haven't been warned. Um, Labor Day weekend is coming up. I'm sure we're all looking forward to that. If you are inviting guests into the community, please utilize our Go Access software that will email or text your pass to the guest and expedite their entry. One thing to remember on holiday weekends, we do suspend service provider admittance. So, they will not be permitted for things like Door Dash, pizza, contractors, anything like that. If you need to get them in, you're going to have to put them in on your friends list. And also, this does not apply to inhome healthc care services. Obviously, we're not going to block that out. In addition to all that, I was going to say, "Hey, great. We're out of the golden algae thing, but Darcy already covered that and there's nothing I can add to what Darcy says. So, but speaking of the new lake the the lake issues that we've had, we have started a new lake advocacy committee and their role is advocacy. They are not to put

out any rules or anything like that. Their role is to educate the community. Let them know the simple things such as washing your car. detergents have phosphates in them. Those go into the lake. They feed the algae. It's much better to prevent the problem than to treat the problem. And that is our goal with this. So, this lake advocacy committee, it has been staffed. It will be working on educating the community on the lake health and advising the POA on recommended actions such as monitoring, testing, public notices. It is not taking action on anything. That is not their role. purely educational. And to close, there's some upcoming events. Um, August 23rd is comedy night at the country club. I think we can all use a good laugh. So, come out and uh support your local community. Sunday, August 31st, Maui Sunday. I know a lot of you guys have been there and you're planning on going. I'm really hoping not to see Jeremy Smith in a hula skirt, but you know, whatever if he wants to go. Um, that's going to be at the launch from 4 to 8 August 31st. And then just I wanted to remind everybody even though it's been said already, Darcy is having coffee on Friday at 9:00. If you have questions, there's going to be some answers. I would invite everybody to go. And that's all we have unless you have any questions.

Thank you. Any questions? Job, Jeff. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Canyon Lake Chamber of Commerce President Johnny Petta, the new president. Yes. Welcome. Thank you.

All right. Uh, Mayor Terry, Mayor Prom, city council members, city staff. Um, again, Johnny Peneda representing the Kenyon Lake Chamber of Commerce, newly elected. Uh, typically, uh, John Grande would be up here. So, so I apologize for the downgrade tonight. So, hopefully I can, uh, do the best I can. So, recent events, business roundt was on August 7th. U presenter was uh, Carl Mada. um discuss social marketing and our next business roundt will be September 4th where Cassidy Eden will discuss small business uh tax strat uh strategies. Now we're changing I say I but we the chamber are changing the business roundts to more of an education teaching the small businesses um more of items that they can use in their business to grow their businesses and become stronger. After hours mixer was this past uh Monday hosted by Caldwell Banker. Chuck was an extreme um welcoming uh host. Um business of the month was Carl Mata of American Tradition Tattoo Company. Um ex an extreme host as well. Uh great facility, different than any tattoo shop I've been in. Uh so I would encourage the public to visit that uh that tattoo shop. Upcoming events. So, uh, Najgera Family Law ribbon cutting and anniversary event, Tuesday, August 19th at 5:15 in their Meny office. Battle of the Business, uh, Saturday, September 27th, uh, between 10 and 2:00 in Sierra Park. Taco Tuesday, Halloween party, Tuesday, October 14th, uh, between 5:30 and 6:00 p.m. um to approximately 9:00 p.m. at the Canyon Lake Golf Club. And then um our biggest and largest event that we are hopefully going to make it a lot larger parade of frights Saturday October 25th 2025 between 8:30 and noon.

Uh and that is in the town center and all this will be public on our new upcoming hopefully this month if not the beginning of next month uh website with the Canyon Lake Chamber. So something updated with pictures of this century and updated information. Very cool. Good update. Any questions? Yeah, this ribbon cutting on August 19th is for whom? Uh, ribbon cutting is a Nera family law. They played a a big part in the uh chamber uh and helping us out uh with no charge. So, they helped us out. So, I'm sure we would like to attend. I think you'll get a call from uh Rick Tobin, our event coordinator with that. So, okay. Okay, we got it now. We'll be there.

Any questions? Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you. Great job.

One of my favorite people in the world, Riverside County Sheriff's Department, Captain Rails. Good evening, Captain. Mayor, could I jump in before uh the uh captain gives his update? Uh I know Captain Rails will be retiring. Uh I I misunderstood and thought he was going to be at Wdemar today. So I had asked him if he could come back for the next meeting even though he uh he'll he'll just be Jim that that time when he comes in and not not Captain Rails. Uh but we we do want to thank him for everything he has done for the city and for uh how long has it been between lieutenant and captain for this area?

Uh over five years. Little over five years. So, um I wanted to make sure everybody knows one how that happened, all me, and uh two to make sure that they know that uh our captain is retiring and was gracious enough to come back uh next month. Cool. Well, my my apologies on uh on getting the mix up with Will Demar. I had my two lieutenants cover Wild Demar meeting so I can come and give you the the last stats presentation um that I will be presenting. So, I want to do that with Canyon Lake, but um I will be retiring. You still like us more than Wdemar, right? That's why I'm here. Okay. That's what I thought. Can't say that. But yeah, I've spent more time here to say that. Yeah, I love that. Oh, no. Stick with what you had. Yeah.

I will be retiring on uh September 2nd will be my last day and then I'm going right on vacation. So, good for you, Captain. Congratulations. Be on two vacations when I when I come back to to receive that. So, cool.

Well, good evening, honorable mayor, Mayor Prom, city council members, uh staff, and residents. Um I have the opportunity to present to you your uh second quarter stats which cover April uh May and June. Let's first look at the calls for service. In April we had 443 calls for service up from 382 the prior year. May we had 434 up from 426 the prior year. And in June 456 and up from 360 the prior year. If you look at most of the calls for service and times, um, starting from the left, it's midnight till 6:00 in the morning and then 6:00 in the morning till noon and then noon to 6:00 and then the last bar is 6:00 in the evening until midnight. So most of your calls of service are coming in from 6:00 until midnight or the the bolt coming in from noon to midnight. I'm breaking those calls down a little bit further in April. uh 213 of those calls were dispatched. Uh the other 230 were proactive calls from uh your deputies here. A lot of those are business checks, um area checks, um doing traffic stops, pedestrian checks, those types of things. So, so April 2 213 and per activity is 230. So, that's right at 48% uh which is about the normal for dispatch calls, which is a daily average of seven calls per day. In May, we had 250 with uh 184 proactive. That's uh 56 57.6% with uh ju just a little over uh eight calls per day. And in June, 226 dispatch calls. Proactive calls were 230. So right at 49.56% with just uh about 7 and a half calls per day. So we're daily average of actual legit calls dispatched coming in from the city of Canyon Lake is 7 to eight calls. So, it's it it usually

stays right around there. And I think the last time I broke it down, it was right at the same numbers. Uh, looking at arrests uh for those 3 months in April, we had um one felony arrest and that was for 422 PC uh which was a domestic incident where terrorist threats were made. So, that's a felony arrest and then um one domestic violence arrest in May and then one domestic violence arrest in June. So, all three were domestic violence incidents related. Uh then go over to the right, the misdemeanor arrests. We had eight misdemeanor arrests in April. Uh two were for arrest warrant service. One was for um temporary restraining order, one was for uh DUI and then one for obstructing an arrest. Uh one for vandalism and then two for drunken public. Uh looking at May, we had seven arrests for misdemeanor, two were for warrants, two for drunk in public, two DUIs, and then one for battery. Uh looking at June, we had five arrests for misdemeanor. We had one arrest warrant service, one for drunk in public, and three DUIs. So that's your breakdown for all your arrests for the three months. Let's take a look at your part one violent crimes. Um April, May, and June, we had no robberies, rapes, or homicides, which is great. We had uh three aggravated assaults in April which are probably related to your uh three domestic violence incidents. Uh in May we had two aggravated assaults and then two in June. Most of those are related to either fights or domestic violence related. Look at your part one property crimes. In April we had uh three larsenies which are thefts. You had one um theft in May and then one burglary in May. And then in June, you had um nine uh thefts. Most of those were related to one suspect who was arrested for uh several of those

incidents. Looking at your average response times, uh priority one call is your highest priority call. And how we calculate that is when the call comes into 911 from the time the call the deputy is dispatched the call to arriving on scene is is the response time. So, your priority one, which is your highest priority, uh just over eight minutes in April. Um 7 and a half minutes in May and then June right at 7 and a quarter. Um looking at priority two calls with your next priority right around 19 19 12 minutes May was 20 and then down to 17 in June and then on and on from there anywhere from 32 minutes to to 49 minutes on your on your low priority calls. And how that works, the reason the priority threes and fours um get so high is because a lot of times uh the deputy is on is on one of the priority three or four calls and if they get dispatched to priority one or two in the middle of that, they they put the call back in pending, respond and handle the higher priority call and they go back. So sometimes it's it kind of uh messes up those uh those higher those lower priority calls. Here are your traffic stats for the three months. Uh total collisions in April were five. Total total citations issued were four and you had one DUI arrest. In May there were two two traffic collisions. Um two total citations and then two DUI arrests. In June we had five total collisions. Uh total citations were four and three DUI arrests. So we had no fatal traffic collisions or no major injury traffic collisions for those three months, which is great. take a quick look at the Fourth of July stats for that day, which is actually a pretty calm day. Uh, a lot better than the last few years. We had 33 total calls for service. Only 12 of those called were dispatched calls. 21 were

self-generated. We had one DUI arrest and then one uh injury traffic collision and that was related to the DUI. So, just one one major incident. And that concludes my presentation. if you have any questions. Any questions?

U just want to congratulate the 4th of July and all the work that went into it. We we have a a bunch of uh coordination between the city and the sheriff and the marine patrol and community patrol and code enforcement and they all work together and meet. We have code enforcements out in boats keeping the people away from the fireworks. We have the uh fire department running around the city and also on the island. uh the sheriff's running the streets. The community patrol is also helping with the streets and then we have uh the boat patrol is they're out there keeping the people as safe as possible. And I have to say I was very impressed with the day and like you say it was a less less bad things happen this 4th of July and the work you guys getting ready for it I thought was totally what made it all work so well. So thank you all for working together and making it such a great day. Thank you. Any other comments, questions?

Just congratulations, my friend. Welld deserved retirement. Thank you very much for all you've done for our community. You're accessible. Our community loves you. Um I'm sure like uh we're we're we're sorry to see you leave. Our our residents do feel the same way. um your name has come up in several different roundts and uh coffee at the country club and everyone has the most respect for you and that's a that's a compliment to you and for all you've done for our community. So, thank you very much. Enjoy your retirement and enjoy your vacation and grandchildren. Correct. Yes, sir. Three. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Love it. Now for my favorite person in the universe. Cash Cany Lake Fire Department Chief Letendress. I thought I was your favorite person. Wife's going to be very

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Mayor Prom, City Council, City Staff. Jeff Luteners, your fire chief, and I'm here to present the uh statistical information for the month of June and July. as the council was dark in uh July, we didn't really cover anything. So, we'll go very quickly over some of the numbers from So, in the month of June, we ran 79 emergency responses and then in July, we ran 84. So, a little bit slower than what we saw in May, but kind of around our average of about three to four calls per day. Of those responses, we had seven fires. We had 43 EMS incidents, one hazardous conditions, six service call, 24 good intents, three false alarms for a total of 84 responses. In June, we had three fires, 49 medical aids, eight service calls, 15 good intents, four false alarms for the total of 79 responses during that month. Our response times uh in June needed some improvement and we we looked at that and we were able to improve in July, but for the most part, our average response time and turnout time specifically in June was 43 seconds. July was 49 seconds. Our travel time, the distance from the time it takes from us to leave the station and arrive on scene in June was 5 minutes 39 seconds. In July was 5 minutes 21 seconds. And then the overall response time, which is our turnout time plus our travel time for June, was 6 minutes 22 seconds and for July it was 6 minutes and 1 second. That's what we do 50% of the time. We like to critique us a little bit harder and so we want to try to achieve our standards 90% of the time. So 90% of the time our turnout

time is 1 minute 16 seconds. So we cut about 8 seconds off the month of June which was 124. Our travel time in July was 7 minutes 33 seconds. In June conversely it was 8 minutes and 29 seconds. So our overall response time in July was 8 minutes 30 seconds which was 32 seconds then June's at 9 minutes and 2 seconds. So again we made some improvements over the last couple months. We did achieve our goal um for turnout time. That's the one item we can control. Uh we still have some improvement to do on both the overall uh travel time and response time, but we don't really control that. It's wherever we are and wherever the call is. Uh automatic and mutual aid given during the month of July. During July, we responded to 16 incidents outside the city. 15 of those were in the Lake Elsenor zip code area and one was in Meny. So, thus far this year, we've responded to 63 incidents outside the city. 55 in Lake Elsener zip code, eight in Meny, and one of those was in Los Angeles counties in January when we went up to the the fire, specifically the Eaton fire. I I talk about the Lake Elsener zip code, but if you look at the map where the calls are actually occurring, you could see that it's not a true representation of Lake Elsenor. There were four incidents during the month of July that were way up in Metobrook almost into Good Hope. Uh and then another five that were more in the Mebrook area some of them right off of Green Wall. So it's a little uh deceiving. And then you could see Quail Valley had one, Canyon Hills had one, and then down near the freeway off of River Canyon Road is where those responses were. Conversely, Riverside County came in two times during the month of July. So, so

far this year, they've responded 38 times to assist us when our unit was busy on another call or when the incident necessitated additional res resources. Uh, as uh the captain stated, Fourth of July was relatively quiet. We did staff our second paramedic engine for the two-day because the Fourth of July fell on a weekend. So, we had them there for Friday and Saturday. We responded to 10 emergency incidents during the 24-hour period of 8:00 a.m. Friday to 800 a.m. Saturday morning. Three of those were fire related. All of those involved fireworks. Uh we had four medical responses. the same traffic accident that the sheriff went to, a false alarm and a a public service request. Um, Saturday, second day of a 3-day holiday weekend, was not as busy as uh Friday was. And so that concludes my report for the month of June and July. And I'm available for any questions that you may have.

Any questions? Thank you very much, Chief. And uh once again, congratulations on the 4th of July. Great job. Now for our nonprofit spotlight. This is something that we have um began this year and that is where we introduce our residents to the amazing nonprofits throughout our region. And um today it's going to be Michelle's Place, but uh perhaps Council Member Stever, who I know has a great involvement with Michelle's Place, uh would like to do this introduction.

Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm honored to be a part of the Mel Michelle's Place family. Uh I've been sitting on their advisory council for the past few years, and prior to that, uh I've kind of got I don't know, you'd say probably four or 500 people involved a couple times a year. uh to raise money and support their endeavors. Uh once I joined the Michelle's Place team, I saw it was more than just uh the southern western Riverside County. This flows into San Bernardino. This flows into San Diego. And uh you know, cancer is in our dialogues every day almost anymore. Um, I don't want to steal too much of the thunder because, uh, my good friend Kim Garish, who's the executive director here, but I would really love for you to talk about your endeavors, how the community's been supporting Michelle's Place, and, you know, where we can keep helping you out, but appreciate you coming tonight and mayor, I appreciate you having these on the agenda every month. So, thank you.

Thank you. It is too short of a microphone. Darcy size. Darcy size. It's Darcy size. Well, you're here more than I am. So, well, thank you, Mayor, Mayor Prom, and council for having the nonprofit spotlight, not just for the hard work that all the nonprofits do in our communities. It is hard work and so it's nice to be able to talk a little bit about that. Um, and thank you for having me. I've never been to a Canyon Lake City Council meeting, so this is nice. And thanks, Josh, for the introduction.

Right. I heard it was a slow night. Is Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. I understand. That's okay. Um, so again, my name is Kim Garish. I happen to be the executive director of Michelle's Place. I was their first employee 23 years ago. Uh, we'll be celebrating our 25th anniversary this coming November. We started as a breast cancer resource center. And, uh, obviously the need for resources for cancer patients and their families um, really just forced us to expand to serve all can cancers just about 5 years ago. Um, so I have a short video I want to show that will just highlight uh our services and then I'll talk a little bit more about Michelle's Place like magic happened. When Place stores, they really don't know what to expect. They're typically scared. They're very emotional. They're welcomed by smiling faces at our volunteer desk. They might get a hug. It's a warm welcome. It's a safe place. We have art classes, Tai Chi, yoga. We have a variety of things. And sometimes they just need a wig. They know what they're coming here for or they're going to have a mastctomy and and we can prepare them and give them the pre and post things they need for that mastctomy. We just want to do what we can to get them through their journey. Whether that's empowering them, educating them, advocating for them, or giving them the comfort and the love and and the compassion that they need. when you don't know what you're going to face, they can walk you through it. They can give you the resources that you need. If you need to become part of a support group of cancer patients, they have that here. If you need um a chemotherapy kit to get you through your chemo, they have that here. If you need financial aid resources, they have that here. And if you just need a hug from somebody that says, "Hey, you're going to be okay and you're not going to be alone in this journey," you're going to find that here. Thank you so much to all

of you that are making the donation to Michelle's place. You are really impacting not just the cancer patient and that cancer survivor, you're impacting their entire family and all of those that they love who are enjoying this journey with them. And so from the bottom of my heart, from my little three kids and and the people in my life that have been affected, I just want to say thank you so much for donating to Michelle's Place. [Music] So that's just a little peek into Michelle's place. We uh inhabit a 10,000 ft² space in Tmacula on Winchester. All of our services are free. nothing cost anything to any of our member to our clients to their family. Um I I included our annual report just so you can see a little bit of what we do. I won't go through each one of those things, but we're serving over 4,000 cancer patients per year and their families and the need of course continually grows. Um I want to thank you guys. We um started something that Josh mentioned, our Hope Lights the Night. We have hosted it two years in a row down at Holiday Harbor, right? Um, and it's an amazing event. We had it on Michelle's actual birthday, which was March 9th. Um, we just come together. It's a free event. It's a Luminaria event, so people decorate bags. They put a candle in it. We make a little path. We say some nice words um and and thoughts and prayers for those that are fighting the fight and those we've lost. So, thank you for allowing us to do that and all the work the POA does to ensure that we can do that. It's really really beautiful to be on the lake and to um to experience that in a different setting. So, thank you guys for letting us do that. It does help us raise funds because we do have a $ 1.3 million budget that we have to fund every year to ensure that we keep our doors open. So, I want to thank you guys again for supporting us. Thank you for letting us be here. I invite you to come and take a tour. Has anybody heard of

Michelle's place or been to Michelle's place? Oh, well, Josh. Yeah. So, um please come and take a tour. I'd love to show you around and see what we do. Um, it's one thing to see a video, it's one thing to talk about it. It's a whole different thing to experience it. So, tell your friends, family, anyone and everyone is welcome and we want to help them because no one should face cancer alone. Thank you. Thank you, Kim. Uh, I'd also like to add to that I'd be more than happy to join. I've I've done that a four and pretty much let them go on the journey with Kim and her team. So, a little more comfort comforting. Um, far away from the mic. Again, how much are your services?

Free. So, even if you're a business looking to uh add a smile into the community, it's another great place to go do a tour. So, again, mayor, appreciate for allowing Michelle's place to be the spotlight. And thank you again, Kim. I think we've agreed to allow you to come back for the next 25 years. We do have Jeff here so he can help on the POA side. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much for all you do. What a beautiful presentation. Thank you.

Okay. Public hearing item number seven. Adopt a resolution establishing a grading inspection fee and updating the master schedule of fees and charges. An introduction to the first reading of ordinance 256, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California, amending title 3, chapter 3.36, grading and planning fees to the Canyon Lake Municipal Code. It is 718 and this public hearing is now open. With that, I would like to introduce community development director Mike Borha for a presentation.

Thank you, Mayor, Mayor Pam, city council, um city staff. Um the city of Canyon Lake uh regulates grading activities to ensure protection of public infrastructure, environmental quality, and overall public safety. Historically, grading permit holders were allowed to submit self-certifications for their own engineers to confirm compliance with approved grading and permit conditions. However, this certification process has proven to be unreliable and has raised concerns over the effectiveness of grading oversight. In response, the city has updated its grading ordinance to require all inspections to be conducted by a qualified third-party inspector under contract with the city. This ensures ensures consistent and objective compliance verifications at key stages of grading work. The ordinance authorizes the city to set the grading inspection fee via resolution allowing for more effective updates to this to the fee structure in the future without requiring an amendment to the municipal code. The proposed grading inspection fee is based on the estimated cost of providing the service which includes thirdparty contract inspection inspector costs and city administrative overhead. The cost analysis has determined that the actual cost for one grading inspection is approximately $1,300. This fee will be charged directly to grading permit applicants on a per inspection basis. That concludes my report. I'm open to any questions.

Any questions for staff? Are there is there any public testimony? Okay, it is now 7:20 and this public hearing is now closed. Um, are there any additional discussions by city council? With that, I need a motion and a second to adopt resolution number 2025-33 and wigh full reading and introduce by title only ordinance 256. I move staff recommendation. I second. City clerk, would you please conduct a roll call vote? Steo.

I. Council member Smith. Hi. Council member Steber. I. Council member Welty. I. Mayor Terry. I. Motion passes. And mayor, if you don't mind, before we move on to item eight, we do have one public comment on a non-aggenda item. You care to take that now? Yes. Okay.

Art femister. Good evening everybody. I thought since everybody else made a point about uh POA member or POA director Jeff Bill I should say something. So Jeff Bill. So okay moving forward there. I also wanted to here for two uh two purposes tonight. I want to first also say uh wish our best to the captain rails. uh the day I was sworn in as a patrol volunteer at the lake north station the previous captain we won't say his name was somewhat delayed and on his way out the door and and I'm sitting around going am I getting sworn in today and deputy said I'll swear you said okay and then so who's the new guy this guy rails or whatever like that and everything you know the mumbling going on like that and then you always kind of wonder cuz I knew the other captain and he comes in he's happy he's open he's talking and that sure sit in the office we chitchat so he always enjoyed seems like the five years I you were there. I was there at the exact time too and then some. So, we appreciate your openness. The volunteers always appreciate how open you were to everybody. You made them feel part of the family and that's important. So, we wish you the best and who knows, maybe we'll see you again. You never know. On that happy note, on that we'll go to a different subject. So, regarding the project in Metobrook, um there's an old saying, maybe I'm the one that made it up on that. No one's in charge because everybody's in charge. Last night we had a good kickoff I think on the ABC News that brought a lot of attention to the situation. It was well spoken. The Russ were here. They left earlier. I'm not sure why. Um but they brought that to the attention. They stated pretty clearly inside there. But now we're at the point what do we do now? And right now there's everybody for the best of their their own reason call Karen, call this person, call this person, call that person, when's the meeting, when's this, when's that? It'd be nice if we had a single point of contact. doesn't mean everybody has to follow your lead the council, but somebody to take the lead. Maybe someone who's worked in water before that's also a council member

that's retired. I don't know, council member Welty, for example, might fit the bill on that. So, or someone inside the city there to take the bull by the horn now. Say, "We got some momentum. Let's stick with this folks. We can't tell you what to say, but here's going to be the next meeting. If everybody wants to go, we're going to have a representative there. And here's what's happening next. We should all do this. We suggest you do this and try and have a consolidated voice because this bouncing all over the place doesn't do any good. Again, it's not your job to tell people what to say. They're entitled to their own opinions. We know we all want to be respectful. That's the critical part inside there and stick to the point of of that. But there's so many unanswered questions right now. I think that would be helpful if the city just because nobody else is who else would do it if nothing else on that. So, it's just a recommendation I'd like to pass on there. And Dale, we're looking forward to your leadership on this. That would be great. or council me I'm sorry, council member Wely. This would be this would be wonderful. So or whoever you choose to do that.

Thank you for the nomination. You You're welcome. Yeah. All right. Thank you again everybody. Have a great rest of the summer. Did turn the thing. Was that ever turned on? Oh yes. I guess it was. Okay. You turn it off. Where is that? Yeah.

This what happens when you get old. Okay. Excuse me. Number eight, introduction. Another public hearing. Introduction and first reading of ordinance number 257, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California, approving an amendment to the Canyon Lake Municipal Code, Title 9, Planning and Zoning, Section 9.1, Uses Permitted. It is 7:25 and this public hearing is now open. And we have a presentation by our city manager, Aaron Brown. Thank you, mayor, mayor prom and councel. Uh, city are required to adopt existing county ordinances upon their incorporation, which is what the city did when this happened. Uh, as we've kind of transitioned over the I don't know last 35 years, there's been some modifications that have been needed. In this specific instance, it's talking about a uh cup and that cup needing to make modifications uh to uh what the word uses restaurant right now. Uh this change is being ch this modification is changing really the word restaurant to business. So, anytime an organization wants to add onsite consumption of alcohol, they need to go through a very specific process. If you look at the letter of the the law as the code is written today, it's only if they're a restaurant that they want to add that they would have to go through the business um or through the process.

This does not have any bearing on what ABC decides just on what our zoning and the way the city would basically give the thumbs up or thumbs down to ABC in the process. So, this is a very minor modification uh but a very large legal process to change the word restaurant to business. And I'm available for any questions you may have. Mayor and council, I have a question if that's all right.

Yeah. Sometimes we'll go to a chamber event and they'll have a grand opening. They'll have a bottle of champagne and they'll drink it. They're not selling it, but they're opening a bottle and maybe a couple people have drinks. This is for sale or is would that this is specifically for the licensed sale of uh alcohol that will be consumed on location. So, perfect example, you have uh there may be somebody brought a bottle and and you open it up. Nobody's selling it. that is not regulated. This is regulation of a business that wants to sell alcohol and the process they must go through. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Do we have any public testimony? It is now 7:28 and this public hearing is now closed. Um, ask the council if you have any additional questions. No. Okay. Need a motion and a second to introduce and read by title only ordinance number 257.

Motion. I'll second it. Madam clerk, can we get a roll call vote? Mayor Potm Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. I. Council member Steber. I. Council member Wely I. Mayor Terry. I. Motion passes.

Another public hearing. Item number nine. Approval of a conditional use permit for the establishment of bar a body art business in the mixed juice zone located at 31606 Railroad Canyon Road suite 205. It is 7:28 and this public hearing is now open with a presentation by our city manager Aaron Brown. Once again, Mayor Mer Prom, uh, thank you. It's been minutes since I talked to you. Uh, this is again another formal process where the city has received an application for an existing business to add, uh, what is now classified as body art, uh, used to be classified as tattoo. uh state of California took uh body piercing and tattoo and incorporated those together to be body art. Uh this applicant has uh requested that they be able to add that onto their services. As the staff report talks about, there was back in 2011 an ordinance that uh placed a 45day ban on tattoo parlors, now referred to as body art. Uh since then there has been uh no further action on that. There's nothing uh that that would stand in the way from uh this meeting all requirements. As you can see each department has gone through any process that it is need that is needed and uh requested any um u modifications or had no comments. And so with that uh be open to any questions that council may have.

Any questions for staff? Yeah, I have one. Um, this applicant, are they doing piercing as well? Uh, I you could do piercing under the body art requirement. I do not know if their piercing uh what was presented to me was tattooing, but uh because of that body art combination, uh I I believe they would be able to do that. Uh the applicant may be here. The applicant is indeed here. So, uh we could ask the the question of the applicant. I got a six-year-old and a seven-year-old who are dying to get their ears pierced and it's dad's decision and maybe this is a gift from God that you know we make this happen. So that's it. Thank you. Yes, please.

We Okay. Thank you. Thank you for having me. My name is Marlene Perez. Um, I can present myself a little bit in the business and then open it to questions. Um, I'm a single mom with three boys back there with me. Um, my journey started due to breast cancer. Um, and I started tattooing. I got my first ones due to that. And, um, so we started our business in Lake Elsenor and we specialize mostly in women. What that is is we do fine line art. Um, we fix scars, we do revisions like that and permanent makeup, people with no eyebrows, things like that. Um, we do offer piercing for little ones as well. Um, we also offer very specific piercing which is for um, acupuncture, migraines, um, trauma, different things like that. So, our business is very specific um, and it's been a beautiful journey. so far. And what brought me to Canyon Lake is uh we actually live in Quill Valley and so it's nice for me and my children and we'd love to continue to offer these services to everyone in this area. So any questions?

Any questions? Uh I actually do have one. Have you been able to connect with Michelle's place before? I've not. Um, I've I know she snuck out, but I'll I'll Yeah, I've actually had a lot of um very sweet local women and a lot of And a little bit about me. I've been working for the state of California for 17 years for a nonprofit. I help adults with disabilities find work and so every type of person I know. And so I feel like my life has just kind of slowly brought me to serving people in a different way. So yeah, thank you. I have a question. Yeah.

Uh yeah. And the number 13 here, I it's uh ongoing conditions. It basically says something about having to have visibility uh in your window. I I it's all new to me. Uh I assume there's some sort of safety requirement that people can observe the tattooing. Is that what that's about? I don't I don't know what that it said. The applicant shall keep windows free from obstructions that may inhibited visual access inside the building aside from window tinting and advertising. Oh, okay.

So, just the comment is we reach recently allowed for full window advertising in the which would seem to be not exactly in line with this statement. I think you're great. This isn't my your issue. I can answer that. Uh council. So, with that specific condition, I believe it gives the exception of advertising. Um what number? I forgot the number. 13. Um, aside from window tinting and advertising. So, if you had advertising on there, it would block it. But it is exactly what you're saying to be able to to see in and see what's going on, but advertising is a specific exception to that. But they could do their whole windows with advertising and block of view

as long as it meets. We also have requirements for what that window advertising is. It has to meet those. But that is correct. But we would voted like two years ago to allow the full window to be covered, right? But there's conditions on that as well. It's not just cover your windows. You have to meet specific guidelines on that. So, it's still it would still fall under those. You still think that this will be fine. This is not a big conflict. I just ask that you, you know, maintain the spirit of the statement there. And I think you will. It's not a problem. Yeah. I think the only thing would be um if somebody needs privacy because some people do take their clothing off. Yeah. We'll get there' be something there' be some a couple adjustments. I'm sure it's been addressed. I just saw it in here and it seems to be contradicting what we had done earlier.

Yeah. So far nothing on my windows. I mean been waiting. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you.

Are there any rebuttals? Okay, it is 7:35 and this public hearing is now closed. Any additional questions by councel? We will need a motion and a second to find the proposed zoning ordinance amendment is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act and adopt resolution number 2025-34 approving conditional use permit number 25-20. I need a motion and a second.

I'll move the item. I'll second. You got a second and a third, Mr. Mayor. That's That's great. City clerk, can you conduct a roll call vote? Mayor Poten Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. Hi. Council member Steber. Hi. Council member Welty. I passes. Business item number 10, consideration of award of construction contract for Railroad Canyon Road HSIP project CL-00003. Once again, a presentation from our city manager, Aaron Brown.

Thank you, mayor. Uh, this recommendation is, uh, a bit of a two-part recommendation and that, uh, we are recommending that city council approve the plans and specifications for the HIPP project. Also award construction contract to the lowest responsible bidder, which is LC Paving, for the sum of 1.6 million. Uh, additionally, uh, if LC Paving and Ceiling declines to execute the contract, uh, we are asking for council to approve approve the plans and specifications and award the contract construction to the second lowest bidder, which is all American asphalt for the sum of 2.523357.10 million. Uh, this is coming from HIPP grants as well as uh, SB1 gas tax. uh this is not coming from general fund money. So I think it's important to uh to note that uh the reason that we are looking at this is if uh if the first bidder is unable to move forward the way it is uh we would like to get started on this contract right away and be able to move forward with a second bidder. And I would be happy to take any questions uh you may have. Mayor or councel

council have any questions? Madame clerk, are there any public comment cards on this item? There are not. I need a motion in a second to award the construction contract to LV paving o award the construction contract to all American Asphalt. So moved. Second. City clerk, can you conduct a roll call vote? Can we just verify exactly what that motion is?

Absolutely. The the motion will be to approve the plans and specifications for Railroad Canyon Road 8ZIP project CL00003. Award the construction to the lowest responsible bidder LC paving and ceiling. Allocating the associated money 63,000 for testing and construction. Authorizing the city manager to approve change orders up to 10% of original bid and authorizing city man city manager to execute the construction contract or if LC paving declines to execute the contract author approving in the plans specification for the railroad canyon road HIPP project CL00003 award the construction contract to the second lowest responsible bidder submitting responsive bid all American Asphalt for the sum of 2,523,00 35710. Also allocating 158,880 for construction and administration and inspection. Allocating 63,000 for testing and construction staking. Authorizing the city manager to approve change orders off to 10% of the original bid amount. And authorizing the city manager to execute the construction contract with all American asphalt. That's it. Just that. Thank you for those words.

Madam clerk, my motion still stands. Um, bidder has 10 days. That is correct. 10 days from award. Motion still stands. Second. Are you happy, madam clerk? Thank you. I just wanted to make him say it. Mayor Potim Castillo. I. Council member Smith. Hi. Council member Steber. Hi. Council member Wely.

I. Motion passes. Item number 11, introduction and first reading of ordinance number 258, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California to repeal and replace title 3 revenue and finance chapter 3.08, purchases of the Canyon Lake Municipal Code. Once again, presentation by city manager Aaron Brown. Every now and then um you get a new city manager and every new city manager wants to have a purchase and procurement ordinance uh that uh is effective that they're that they believe will allow them to achieve the objectives of the city council has laid out for them. Um, we had updated our purchasing ordinance a few years ago, but after having several discussions uh with the city manager uh and based on his experience in other jurisdictions throughout the Inland Empire, uh we felt that there were significant updates that could be made here uh that would allow the city to operate in a much more efficient and effective way. So, what you have in front of you is a repeal and replace of the city's uh purchasing ordinance. Uh fundamentally many of the uh types of contracts that the city manager is authorized to enter into are the same. Um but you have a lot more clarification and specificity uh that that clearly outlines the role and authority of the city manager. And if there's anything in particular the city manager wanted to talk about turn it over to him. Uh, one thing I wanted to do is is thank the department heads because we did as a team go through everything and try to find areas where we could more efficiently uh do the city's business. Uh, get through what we're trying to get through in the most transparent and effective way and keep both of those in mind at all times. So, uh, we're very happy with what is compiled here and feel it will

best uh, allow us to do the city's business. Any questions for staff? Madame clerk, do we have any public comment cards on this item? Mayor, we do not. We

need a motion and second to wave full reading and introduce by title only ordinance number 258. Before that, love the um nothing for staff. Just want to talk amongst the colleagues on this. uh city manager and I had a great conversation yesterday and loved how we're seeing some of these updates, streamline processes. Um that's kind of how I do some of my work based off uh government codes that were enacted. Uh one thing that not too comfortable with is uh uh increasing the authority. Um we have Lake Elsnor 50,000, HMT 50,000, Eastville 50,000, even our own POA. Um, I did ask city manager, you know, how many contracts you'd think we would be looking at going over. Um, even though the number wasn't that many, uh, as we think, you know, still kind of showing our involvement. Um, then kind of I don't want to say the word giving it away cuz we're not. He's done a great job. But, um, again, love the streamlined process. Just don't want to see the increase in the, uh, authority. I think we all should still keep be working as a team even though city manager does bring us up to date. So, those kind of only my comments regarding it. Um, yeah, if any of you have questions for me, please let me know.

Council member Steer, I think that's completely warranted and I actually appreciate you bringing it forward. Um, I I I will say that I appreciate our CM because there's not a single dollar that I'm aware of that's been spent that has not been brought to this council. I mean, um, your spending authority, you have gone far above and beyond to not even authorize your own spending authority when it comes to things. You still bring little things to us because I think you feel it's comfortable to do that. Um, on this particular item, City of Wdemar, what's theirs?

City of Wdemar has uh two-part. It is 75,000 unless you use the city's uh contracts, which we always try to use the city's contracts. Uh, and then it is unlimited. Yeah. Uh, so theirs is a two-parter. I I don't have any issues with it. I mean, you know, if you don't have any issues with it, Mr. Mr. City Manager, then I'm at least for me, I'm good with it. I think it was well written from the beginning.

Uh, I'm not concerned. Uh, as the deputy executive officer, Riverside Superior Court, it was 500,000 as my signing authority. I've never had an issue with that. Uh, it doesn't matter to me either way. There are things that I think uh in talking to council member Steber as we're moving forward with the police department. I don't know what the cost is going to be because we're looking at are we using watch guard for uh body warn cameras or are we using Axon? If you use Axon, Axon throws in tasers. Could that exceed the 50,000 for th those items? Absolutely. and uh it would be advantageous for the city to be able to move forward with that item, but those are the only ones I could think of. The last purchase that I can remember that we had somewhere in that neighborhood was about 75,000 for the generator. I'd kind of looked back when when you said it and um I I'd already come to council on that uh getting direction when I was doing the uh phase one planning. So, as as the council member said, I try not to do anything where I surprise the council ever. Uh, it's one of the reasons why I like to have my review on frequently because I come in and say, "Hey, here's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at these things. How would council review my performance if if I went in a direction like this?" Because I want to make sure I'm as much in lock step with what the vision of the council is as possible. And um sometimes we as the the uh city manager, you're the CEO of the the corporate organization. And so there are times you have to make those judgment calls. And what I try to do then is come back and say, "Hey council, here's the direction I went." Uh you know, is that in line with what your expectations are. So um would in no way, shape, or form consider it offensive. Never had an issue with my signing authority. Uh, but this is a

carryover of of uh what I've had in the past with other uh organizations.

I I also think you know, Councilwoman Castillo, you remember, Chief Latenders, you remember there's times at which things have to be bought, especially starting a fire department. I remember that we were you were under the gun on so many different items that you know having the authority or looking at things and being able to make accurate decisions based upon spending authorities or whatnot it comes into key. So for me I think it's it's fine. I know what we have coming up especially when we look at the police department um we're going to be under a timeline on certain things. So I think you bring up a good point. Um my I'm good I'm I'm good with it as is. if uh any of my colleagues want to make the change on it. Um I think I'm I'm completely fine with the way it is.

My comment is there's always reporting. Anytime you spend any money, it comes up in the next month's report, right? I mean, generally it's not like you you spend two uh 150,000 and eight months later we realize you spent the 108. No, it it's pretty much comes up in the next spending cycle. and and I've failed you if you're finding out that I spent that kind of money on a report and not from me. So, absolutely. There there are numerous checks and balances in the system.

I appreciate uh the concern on behalf of uh Council Member Steber. Um but I also appreciate the communication on behalf of Aaron Brown and the history that I've had of that communication. Um sometimes it's overcommunication, but in this case it's it's it's good. And um I think we all agree too he wouldn't be in the chair if we were worried about him spending he knows that too. He does know it very well. So we made a point of that. Any other comments? I need a motion in a second to adopt urgency ordinance number 259. I'll make the motion

to introduce and read by title only ordinance number 260. So move Mr. Mayor if there's no public comments. Second. I do apologize. Madam clerk, do we have a public comment? We do not have public comments, but we are Ordinance 258. That is correct. Motion and a second to wave full reading and introduce by title only ordinance number 258. I apologize. So move 258. We have a second. Yes. Cool. City clerk to conduct a roll call vote. Mayor Potim Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. Hi. Council member Sieber. No. Council member Welty. I. Mayor Terry.

I. Motion passes.

Item number 12. One, adopt urgency ordinance number 259, an urgency ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California. formally establishing a Canyon Lake Police Department declaring the city's intent to participate in the California Peace Officer standards and training post program accepting pineal code requirements and authorizing necessary implementation actions and two introduction and first reading of ordinance number 260 an ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California, formally establishing the Canyon Lake Police Department, declaring the city's intent to participate in the California Peace Officer Standards and Training Post Program, accepting pineal code requirements, and author authorizing necessary implementation actions. Once again, we have a presentation by our city manager, Aaron Brown.

Thank you, mayor. This one is very easy. uh as we've gone through the process with Calpost uh the requirements they gave us uh talked about the resolution that we needed the form even said submit your resolution we went through the whole process they contacted us and said we don't want a resolution from you we want an ordinance that says this and so we are here to do aspost has requested this ordinance is exactly what uh they're looking for this just moves us to the next step so that we can uh be recognized by uh California police officers standards and testing cowpost and they've been great right

amazing great to work with right yeah very very easy and and there's a lot of things we need to do uh so that when we start with our training we can as a part of cowpost be reimbursed by that uh uh it will help with some of our uh grant intentions so uh certainly very important for us to do we're just uh uh frankly um crossing the the te's dotting the eyes and to use Forest Gump because you told me to, drill sergeant. This is exactly what they told us to do. You have any questions for uh staff?

I have a question. This may be I know we're going through a number of items relating to the police development of the police department. Could could you kind of give us an overview? It's been a while. We've been dark for a month and I think it's been a while since the community has kind of seen the overall progress. Can we do that now or would it be better to do it piece by piece? Uh the overall progress I mean that that um I would typically do on my updates because it's not what is agendaized in this specific item. Um the city attorney may correct me here, but I think it'd be better to proceed through the individual item. And um and Mr. City Manager, looking at the items, you're going to give a pretty dang good update as we go through them.

Correct. and and one of them you're going to get a lot of the updates kind of naturally through that process. Uh I would be a little worried about doing the update ahead of that because I'm basically going to be talking about agendaized items outside of when the council would be deliberating on those items. Okay. I just wanted to throw it out there. I could see that item by item would probably be more appropriate, but sometimes as you do each piece, it's hard to imagine the pieces fitting together, especially for the public, so to speak. Yeah, let's go ahead with the pieces. Any other questions? Madame Clerk, are there any public comment cards on this item? Mayor, there are not.

I need a motion and a second to adopt one, adopt urgency ordinance number 259 and two, introduce and read by title only ordinance number 260. Motion. Second. Madame clerk, can you conduct a roll call? Mayor Potim Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. I. Council member Steber. Hi. Council member Welty. I. Mayor Terry. I. Motion passes.

Mr. Mayor, real quick on this item, since uh Council Member Welty brought it up, you know, he's uh he's eager because due to the Brown Act, we don't get to talk to each other about all the updates that Councilwoman Casey Castillo and I are working on with our city manager. So, um I sense it. I want it, too. I want to be able to I want to be able to tell him everything as well just like I want to tell Stebur. But you know there's obviously so good point. Anyways, thank you for that. You're welcome.

Item number 131, adopt resolution approving the proposed budget adjustments transferring 1.2 million from the reserve fund to support startup funds for the establishment of the Canyon Lake Police Department. Two, approve job descriptions for the police chief and supervising community service officer. Three, and adopt resolutions approves approving updated salary and wage schedules for safety and nonsafety employees. Once again, a presentation from our city manager, Aaron Brown.

Thank you, mayor. First, I want to highlight an error in the staff report where it says approximately $422 per household per month. Uh that is a very hefty budget. That was per year, not per month. Uh if any households want to send the city $440 or $222 per month, uh just send it care of uh the city manager's office. We will make sure it goes to great things at the city, but it was uh intended to be per per year. So I'll I'll start with that. Mayor, uh what we're asking to do is uh allocate the reserve fund monies because as council gave the direction that we would have approximately $1.2 million in total startup costs. That money because of the government requirements must be transferred from the reserve into an account that is an expenditure account that we will begin uh spending the money for these things for. uh as you saw on this agenda, uh a big chunk of that is for the uh uh construction and then another chunk of that is for our portion of vehicles. Th those those are both on the agenda tonight, but you can see where that starts getting sliced up. As staff, we cannot proceed with any of that until staff has or until uh city council has allocated those dollars to be moved so that we can proceed with that. So, um, city attorney, if you could kind of give me some guidance on the easiest way to do this because I also have some very important, um, uh, items on here uh, to be able to to select some, make sure it uh, patches, designs, things like that. Could could they take a vote on this item and then move to the I guess less formal portions where I'd like to get their input on this? I I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Okay. So, uh that is what I would propose then uh mayor is that the city council would uh have their their deliberation and discussion provide direction on those items and then we'll move to uh a little more of the informal items if that's possible. Yes. We have any questions from staff? No. No questions. Are there any uh public comments?

Motion to second. Motion and second to adopt one, adopt resolution 2025-35 approving startup funds for Canyon Lake Police Department. Two, approve job descriptions for police chief and supervising community service officer. three and adopt resolution numbers 202536 and 202537 approving updated salary and wage schedules. So moved. Second. City clerk, will you conduct a roll call vote? Mayor I.

Council member Smith I. Council member Ste. Council member I. Mayor Terry I. Motion passes. Wonderful. So, I can move on to the next item, mayor, which is uh I've done a lot of budget transfers in my my career. City manager, can I ask a question? Just because just because you made the point very clear that we needed to pass this item before we moved on. If we failed to do that tonight, what would that look like for the rest of the meeting? Uh, well, I I would I would have a crystal ball that would tell me what the answers are going to be on the other ones. Perfect. That crystal ball is cloudy right now, but um just for those that are watching that didn't know what occurred, we had to pass item 13 in order to continue on

and that is specifically why it is in this order. Yeah. Thank you.

So, this item uh like I said is is kind of informal, but um I know I'm never going to get to do this again in my career. I'm going to I'm going to do plenty of budget transfers. Uh so, if you see a bit of giddiness on my face, it is it is exactly what it is. and you'll understand why you want to play poker with me. Well, maybe. Okay. So, uh first I'd like to start with a patch and uh staff is recommending that you choose a patch for Canyon Lake Police. We we've been able to narrow it down to to two essentially the old Canyon Lake police patch worn by RSO and a slight modification paying homage to uh Canyon Lake fire patch. So if we might have to go to just clicking

on. It's working. It's on it. It works sometimes. There we Oh, not that time. So we're just going to click. Forget technology. So this is the old Canyon Lake Police uh patch. Uh it I mean look at that thing

there. It's there. So go to the go to the next one. Uh this is on the left. Our current Canyon Lake fire patch. Uh again, you want to play poker with me? You can figure out which one of these I like pretty quickly. Uh Canyon Lake Fire on the left. And all we're doing is changing to the blue uh police on the bottom. Uh and and having the patch there. So if you go to the next one, you got them there side by side. um doing everything I can to steer this, but you know um we have No, no, not not yet. Um we have uh two very clear um alternatives here. So, uh what I'd like to do is in each one of these get input from uh council as to whether you would like one or two or send us back to the drawing board. just know sending us back to the drawing board will without a doubt require a special meeting because we we're ready to get the branding and everything going uh with this right away. So with that I'd love to have the input from mayor mayor prom council on um if you like the super awesome amazing one or the other one.

Um my feedback is the one on the right is the old Canyon Lake Police Department and we are the new Canyon Lake Police Department. So, I I think the um one on the left is more representative of what we're moving forward with. My my comments are the our chief of fire works so damn hard on this patch already. The work's already been done, so it's a done deal. That's easy.

So, Chief, are we taking any copy copyrights away from the fire department on this or does the fire department support The fire department fully supports this. Uh the city manager asked for us to get the the draft done. I think if you look at most public safety entities in different communities throughout California, what you have represented here is the way most of them go. Your police, your city patch, if you had a public works department, it would be the same icon just with public works at the bottom. So I think this is the the the norm and we fully support it. I'll give difference to the chief then we'll go down that road.

I would say I know our city manager likes the one on the right and I'm going to overturn and uh pick the one on the left. Yeah, I I want to play poker with you, mayor. Yes, I I'm good with it as well. Uh I know the committee has been working hard well um bringing uh kind of mirroring fire like we said public works would have been the same. So uh I'd rather have one uniform uniformity of a patch with just different names than different patches all around. Wonderful. One team.

Yeah. I think um the one on the right too, your favorite one, man. I want to say I mean I know we became a city in 1990. So that's you're looking at a 1990 1991 patch. And it's interesting because when you go back to how RSO used to do it, there was a branded vehicle and patch per every contract city. Now, as one of my colleagues in another city told me, I don't know if that RSO is responsible for Wdemar or Paris. So, it was really cool how they used to do it. I mean, I thought that that's very unique that they did a a patch and they did logos on all their vehicles for each jurisdiction. So, back then that was probably that was a big deal.

All right. So, we have our answer at a at a 5. I love it. Go to the next one, Mike. So, now badges. Um, and I know how many people in their heads just thought, "Yes, we don't need but we do. We do need badges. Uh staff recommends choosing a badge for the Canyon Lake Police Department. We've selected six I know we got some people that have watched some movies uh with me here. Staff selected six different badges from three different badge styles. So if you go to the next one, uh this is our six different badges. Uh I I will be able to hide my favorites a little better uh this time, but uh you'll see uh as we go to the next one. So take a take a look at these. You go to the next one here. You see two different styles. Uh this just has the the gold on the nickel versus the the nickel uh in in kind of a an oval badge. Uh next one, please. Uh now you've got the the eagle highlighted whether it is separated or the wings come part of the shield. And then the next one, uh, two different options here where we're really highlighting the, uh, patriotic way of the city, incorporating the US flag into the badge, and then you'd have the oval versus the the um I don't even know what I'd call that shape. Um, so, uh, what what we're we're looking for is direction on, uh, specifically which badge, not just the type. So, if you go to the next one. Oh, no. We're already in vehicle design. So, back, sorry. Uh, we can go back and forth if council, if you want to look at some more than the other.

We have members of the audience who are giving us thumbs up. And since we are uh, representatives of the people, obviously, that's very important. They took their time out of their night to come and give feedback. Also, the official uniform of Canyon Lake is the American flag. So, I think the consensus in the audience is this one. All right. So, we've got two here. Do we want the one on the left or do we want the oval on the right? Right. The right. The one on the right is to the left. Raise your hand. We're taking an unofficial hands.

Okay. There's people in the back saying, so uh like the one on the right. Is that right? Okay. The community has spoken and and um as a Marine, I think you knew which grouping was my favorite for sure. Uh but it really was a tie kind of going back and forth. Uh I like the the one on the right kind of highlighting the flag. I I like the one on the left highlighting both. So, I'm I'm excited with how we move forward. Uh what what I'm hearing right now is the one on the right. Is that correct for all the council? Yes. Absolutely. People have spoke. Yep. Yes. All right. The community wants That's right.

We have a patch. We now have a badge. If you move forward, sir. Staff recommends choosing a vehicle design and color scheme for Canyon Lake Police Department patrol vehicles.

My favorite. Uh, I will say we selected destroyer gray as the base color for multiple reasons. Destroyer gray just sounds awesome, but it also looks really cool. Um, uh, uh, there are design elements that include white doors versus all gray and writing color versus dark. Uh, last, a background image versus sleek uh, lettering. Uh, go ahead and go to the next one. Uh, I I I want to put this caveat in here because I utilized AI to draw this up for me based on exactly what I was telling it and giving it pictures. So, uh, yes, I know some of the things are not aligned. Yes, I know that, uh, some of the stickers are lacking. This is to get a general idea that the graphic artist will run with. And I'll give you an example if you go to the next one, Mike. Um, uh, this is what I would have proposed as a a city manager vehicle. Uh, the engine's a little small, but I felt like I'd really be able to to run with that. Uh there was not money in the budget for this year based on what Chad and I came up with for the most awesome city manager vehicle ever, but uh I'm hoping the police department can uh um you know uh uh find a way in their budget in the next couple of years to to get this puppy running. So just just see you can see the engine is a little bit in the windshield. That's the kind of stuff you're going to see. It is AI. It's not going to be perfect, but you get a general idea of what it is. If you move the next one away, so we know this is going to be what our CSO vehicle looks like. And what we're requesting later is to purchase uh two Cso vehicles. So to do the math, um this mirrors what our CSO vehicles and um uh city vehicles and code enforcement vehicles are now. Uh the only real difference is that with these uh they're actually pursuits. So

they're uh not just the standard Durango. As we went through the process, we found we assumed we would get like the Durango GTS or something like that, but uh Dodge offers a higher incentive for the pursuits because they're being purchased specifically for police departments. So we ended up getting the Pursuit for less than what we would have got the GT for. So, boohoo us, we get an amazing vehicle for cheaper. Um, but this is the example what the CSO vehicle will be if we move to the next one. The UC vehicles, undercover vehicles, chief vehicles, they're they're basically just going to be destroyer gray. Uh, you can't you can't hide that there. I mean, you're going to see the hidden lights. They're there, but uh they're not obvious when they're within traffic. So, that's very nice. Uh, you move to the next one, Mike. So patrol like black and white that's yawn. It's what everybody does. Go to the next slide. That was the best way I could come up with like a preference.

This is not who we are. We are not boring. Um so if you go to the to the next slide, this is where we get started. Uh and we're really going to need some input in a patrol vehicle. Do we want uh something like this with white doors and a logo? You can go through, Mike. It'll it'll be pretty quick. Do we want something with uh just writing in the white door and um that badge right there was chat I don't know uh taken a a break while we were doing this that all the writing was on the bottom and somehow the badge ended up there. I just ran with it. But same same idea. You see what's there? Uh next one, Mike. And then we start moving into getting away from the white doors and uh writing with a design uh behind it. And then in the next one, Mike, you see um we've got uh writing directly on. And again, there's going to be a lot more to it. There's going to be 911. We're going to have uh a US flag integrated in there. It's this is just the the kind of idea. Uh and then if you move to the next one, which is super awesome. Uh it has the the the black writing. Again, it's going to be a little different than this. It'll be the badge you have chosen. and it'll all be kind of integrated in there, but uh uh not the not the white doors. And uh so what I'm looking for with council is we probably pair it down quickly if you let us know if you want writing directly on or do you want uh white doors, the kind of uh um normal white doors, or do you want to be um just incredibly boring and do black and white vehicles? And if so, we take your direction and happily do that. I like the gray ones that are on the freeways right now. Y

I need to go back to like that or the second to the last gray. Yeah, that one. So, we do gray with the blue writing. I think it looks pretty good. It's clean. And I know I I thank you for, you know, I I work with AI all the time and this is even close to what it's actually going to look like. So, I I get that. Right. That's clean, too. And I honestly think that even even the the last one that you like. No, don't. I don't like the white. Those those ones you can delete. So, I think it sounds like the majority is off the white door, right? So, no white door.

Okay. So, now we go down to just writing or a design behind the the writing. The state trooper. It does look like a state trooper. like the city colors. Okay. Right there. Yeah. I think it pops more and I think it's also because you guys like I mean it's just different, right? Because the police pops and I think it's clean. Awesome. I like that, too.

So, what we'll do if if you can imagine this and then Mike, take us to the CSO vehicle. kind of imagine this with without the white and kind of that that same type of design in the back. Um uh do we want it to continue on or stop at the door? Cuz that that one started kind of at the door and then you can go back, Mike. I think it was uh I think it looks kind of mean stopping it like that. Yeah, because the wrapping around is more that's more aggressive.

I have a question. You want the blower? No. Well, you might hate me for asking. Mickey Thompson's on the back, but we have we have the Black Pearl, which is black with red. What about black with the blue and the teal? Can you chat that right now and see what that looks like? Oh, no. It takes forever for it to render it and then it's wrong the first three times. Have enterprise chat. Um, so you're saying like go with the gray but with blue instead of No, I was saying black but with She went totally off. I was saying kind of if we're mirroring a little bit.

So do like like black, red, black. No, she's saying black. Blue. So, a black vehicle. Yeah, that with black. Oh, can you do black, please? Of course. We We could do black. We changed the quotes to uh to black. Um I don't remember. Zeke is in Is there an upcharge for black? Do you remember? I think destroyer gray was already correct. It would either be less or the same. Okay. So, we could certainly do black and then and then do that. Um, go to the last one, please. State Trooper. You think it's State Trooper? I can't get over it.

Yeah, go back one with the color now. There it's better, but I still think the other one's better. I think that's the one. This one? I think that's close. I think that's like the starting point. That's Well, understand it's going to go to a graphic artist that's going to Oh, yeah. They're gonna they're going to do things right. Yeah, this is just like rendering one of what my seven great seven-year-old would do on GBT. I get it. This is your typical individual who's married to an art teacher who has that much art. Yeah, I I get it. So, this is just just baby steps, right? But I think that is that looks clean. I mean, it's just a start. I know a designer will rip it a new one and come up with things that we're not even thinking about.

I have a question. I I've never driven a police car. I've never chased anybody in a police car. million things I haven't done to police car. Are there colors that are actually more effective for the law enforcement officer to be in? I mean, are does we're just picking colors for looks. Are there some colors that law enforcement prefers to drive in because they're just more effective?

There used to be a law that required that the whole black and white thing and I guess that was challenged. I think it was somebody may know. I think it was Best Buy that sued the state, but um I don't know anything other than that other than you want high visibility, but your lights and sirens are are going to take care of that high visibility. And to be honest, we don't have the same uh um we don't get lost in this city. That's that's we don't have the same kind of obvious expectations that Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Council Member Stever said it. You're talking about the CHP officers that you're seeing, the new batch of vehicles that they just bought. They're pretty sweet.

And part of the reason they did what they did was to blend in because they want to catch what they're calling the video game drivers. Yeah. And they want to blend into traffic and be able to do that. That's the trouble. Black and white is you can see them a mile away. And these kids on little ebikes. Dale, I can see you a mile away in the city of Canyon Lake coming. So our neighbor Meny has so like that's the thing like we're not free pursuit you know like you're going to see we can kind of think of what that police car looks like. What we're trying to kind of envision then would be maybe a black car with our colors like this.

Yep. So this car but just a black background instead of gray which is then kind of along the lines of how we are kind of not mirroring the fire department but that's black with red and this would be black with the blue.

Yeah. One of the things that I was hoping to do was limit as much of the wrap as we can just because if you've seen men as a perfect example some of them are already bubbled up on the side and and they need to be rewrapped completely. Uh, but doing what you're talking about with going with black, that black is just the paint. So, we change from gray to black. That's not a problem. And doing something like this keeps the same minimal wrap. So, there there's not a concern other than uh we would just have to change the quotes. And we'd make that clear in the the agendaized item that this quote uh will be a minor change to black for that vehicle if that is the the choice. And I still like the the gray for the UC car.

I like the gray. City manager, is there any uh limitations? I understand a seal on from public works to police vehicles, one thing, but designs. Uh is there any limitations that our police cars have to change by so much compared to our regular vehicles because of the design?

Not any I'm aware of. I mean, if you look at some, there's some that are extremely simple. Uh, I don't know if the city attorney is aware of any specific design. Yeah. Um, I don't think so. A lot of times what you want it to be is informative so that if somebody's looking at it, they know. Um, you would hope everybody knows 911, but you're going to put that on there. 911. Uh, you're going to put uh uh any city information you want. uh if the department has any type of slogan or or anything like that, all that's going to get kind of added onto there. So, it's it's going to be a very severe differentiation. The big differentiation is going to be that great big light bar on the top. So, I I don't know that there'd be a requirement other than we've got to number the top so that a helicopter could see it. All those things will be met. That's not a problem.

Okay. Thank you. Can I ask our uh our fire chief what you think of going gray? And I know notice now I was in Oceanside and I know that the whole Black Pearl thing a lot of different agencies are doing that. Um but that's that's you know that was exciting when we pulled the trigger on on that that rig and it was a cool look and now I'm seeing so many different agencies do that too. So, I know that CHP is is going gray and I don't know what Minifi is going to do next cuz everything that they did when they wrapped their cars are completely faded now.

If any I mean for the most part you can see that they're all faded. So, what do you think Chief? You were part of the design of the engine and all that.

I think the discussion you're having now is some of the most exciting stuff that you can have as you build your police department. Um, you're making the brand, you're creating your image, you're setting the foundation, and as Mayor Prom Castillo talked about, you know, the pride we have in our fire apparatus is really amazing. And so, the decisions you make are really going to set the the start for your police department. I think the gray looks awesome. I think it's important that it looks like a police car and it doesn't look like a fire vehicle. So, you want to differentiate between that. I've worked with agencies where, you know, they were all the same color and people were concerned that, you know, we could pull up on scene and they think we're a cop because all the vehicles look the same. So, I believe it has to be a very unique, personalized uh look and I think what's been presented here give you a lot of options. Personally, it's got to have black wheels. Black wheels look great. And I personally like the black. So, there's my two cents.

Thank you, Chief. Um, besides the design, are we getting four-wheel drives? How many are four-wheel drives or all-wheel drive for all four all of all drives? Again, that's that's in the next the agenda item. Oh, okay. Um, right.

What are Chief brings up a great point. What are your thoughts on once we bring a police chief on board, letting him have a say on what? Uh, unfortunately there's not time for that, sir. Uh, we we've got to get the vehicles kind of moving. That's that's the race with all of this or that's absolutely what what would have happened. But I I can tell you um many individuals including uh a couple of potential chiefs uh have have been a part of this process. Can you pull that one up?

Excellent. Yeah, you sent it to Mike. Uh, the city attorney was able to get So, I like that the city attorney um was able to pull one up of kind of what we're talking about with black. If you get it and pull it up, that would be good. Can you get it, Mike? I would have to log in through an email uh account on this computer and to bring it up. That's It's going to take me a little time. I can try it. You got about 30 minutes. Go show the text message or whatever to the camera. Yes, I would.

That's exactly what I would like you to do.

We can all gather around. Oh, we um I don't know if you want to take a quick uh Yeah, a restroom break. That would be perfect. That would be perfect. Yeah, restroom break. I like that. Can we set it again? Yeah, I think that's worth showing the world. Absolutely. You got to announce it. So, we are a short recess. Good job.

It is 8:32 and we are back in session. Um, do we have any I don't So, what are we deciding on here? You're deciding on Mayor on this part you're deciding on the overall general design of the patrol vehicles.

Correct. So, uh, right now we have the city attorney was able to get something together with a, uh, black vehicle with that look, not with those wheels. We don't want those wheels. Um, the blue wouldn't be on the front. The same thing, he's dealing with AI. It's going to get it close. Uh, but here's another version of on it. Um, the way I explained it was, I would totally pull over for this person. Um, yeah, I'm not scared of this person. So, so, um, If you want to decide if you want to go with black with something like this or even give direction on what the the lettering this has got some gold in it. We can we can do anything along that line and the way this process works. So normally uh maybe you're buying forge, you buy the explorer uh you go through that process, you get those, they show up now they go to your outfitting and uh maybe a wrap. This is a pretty neat project uh where if we end up purchasing the Dodges in the later agendaized item, it all goes through Dodge Factory. So, it leaves the Dodge Factory, goes over for some outfitting, comes back with a wrap, comes back to Dodge, they finish everything up, and then they send us the vehicle. It is not like uh uh doing it with some of the other manufacturers where you've got plenty of time to change it. We're putting our orders in and their graphic artist is running with it. So that's the reason that we have the the kind of hurry up process in this.

I would like to report my informal polling results. While we were on break, I spoke to the members of the community who took the time to come out to the city of Canyon Lake tonight. And um what I have learned is that there is some concern that it could be very hot in a black car. However, I also heard from a member of um a police department quite east of here where it is very hot and the overall majority has indicated that the black car with the Canyon Lake Blue from the uh one that we liked with the gray was the majority vote. Um, it looks legitimate. It also looks like something the community would be proud of.

This one? No. No. With the design. Keep going. Keep going. That's That's the end. No, the No, there there's there's one more that's not being shown right now. Go back. Go back. So, this one There we go. It's going back. There we go. This one on an on a black car. Canyon Lake Blue. That would absolutely be easy to do. Same same. And as uh uh our enterprise rep said, it would be the same price or less depending on which one is the the priority color or I forget what they call it where they get to charge you more for it.

Additionally, members of the community have texted me and also indicated they're not thrilled with the gray for the marked units. Okay. for the undercover cars, but um they really want to be unique and not look like potentially the highway patrol. So th this would be very easy in my mind. Yeah, he agrees to do black with that style. So this in black? Yes. You're going to make one of my friends very happy. Go back to the Stevens real quick. you have received the same polling results from the community.

I my only concern is go go that's I see the colors there and go go back to the one that we were talking about a minute ago the gray one. I Yeah, I'm not so sure well the city of Canyon Link's going to show up where it says city on a we'd have to do white or gold. Or gold, right?

I like gold. I mean, if you go back to Steven's one that he pulled up, if you don't mind, it's going to that one right there. The gold the gold really pops on the black. I mean, my and I I'm good with it, Councilwoman Castillo. I think it it's it's fine. It looks great and I think it's the right move. I just for me I I I think we need to steer away from rapping as much as we possibly can because I got great friends in the industry and even the most high-end best wrap you can buy the thing's going to fade in 3 years guaranteed. It's just what happens, right? So is the plan for them to and they're going to sticker it up? Are they going to pin pinstripe it? Like what have you had that conversation on? No, it'll be a sticker, but what's what's great about it is we'll get the design afterwards. Okay. And so any of the local shops around here would be able to duplicate it for us if we wanted to renew it. Okay.

But, uh, we did ask, uh, for and I I think it was 3M they use with a seven-year warranty. So, uh, we've got a longer warranty than than the standard. And and to to Councilwoman Castillo's point, well actually to the chief's point, Lieutenant, don't we want all of our vehicles, you know, kind of have that I mean, we don't want to go black and then gray and then obviously white for CSOS. Like we would want to do the same, right, for our undercover or chief's car would be the same or would we want that? We want three different colors out there. I I don't think I don't think it would matter. I mean, the C we we already have white, so if we stuck with that, they're all going to have to be white, right?

And so, we're already going to have at least two, uh, having three, I don't think, would be, uh, an issue, but we could absolutely do all black instead of gray and black. There there's nothing to stop that at all. Uh, stepping outside the legal lane just for a second. When you guys are talking about lettering on black, I just wanted to point out that the lettering on the black pearl is gold. Yeah, it makes a big difference. Surrounded by red, I believe. Yeah, I can see that. It looks good. Yeah, the the light blue on the dark blue on the black will disappear to me. Mhm. Or the gold.

Yeah, you want contrast. So, what if what if we did um what if we did the just like the the our black pearl right now? I'm looking at it. If we did all black, but we did gold lettering. Great. Cuz that would pop substantially with the blue with Yeah. With the blue highlights. Yeah. Do we have the badge on here or just the seal? Cuz this badge I think we just approved is mostly nickel. it is. But you could have with that color there, you could have that nickel badge and then everything else in gold. That that wouldn't be a problem if you want to have an accurate depiction of your badge

cuz black makes things pop pretty good. But I think the way the black pearl is, you're right, Mr. City Attorney, the the gold, that type of gold, it has like a flake and it really pops. I think the white police usually our badge would be the badge but at least then you start sending gold letters and then gold up on the top. So you're thinking kind of the silver badge the gold gold lettering and then police in white or police in gold CC police and white or gold.

So you'd have your writing where it says city of canyon lake that would be gold. Your badge is going to be the silver or nickel and then police white or gold. I think white. I think white. I think white as it is now. Really the only thing that's changing is a different badge and then city of Canyon Lake is going to be in gold and then the car is going to be black. The car will be black. Um and then do we want to do black on the UC or keep that at gray? I think black. I mean that just I think you keep it the same. It's easy if the if the gray is cool whether you see that. I don't care about that.

That's fine. I just think I'm uh the people that I pulled were more about the marked unit. So the the only advantage for me is if you you keep them same, we can transfer over. No, if you keep them all the same color in in the black, they're going to be that would be uh seven vehicles. They're probably going to be seven contiguous uh vends where they're going to be run in that process where they would be different runs depending on the color because that's part of that process. So, um I'd kind of stick with that idea if if you're good with it. If if we're moving away from the gray to the black that we probably go with black across the board.

That's my recommendation. Black across the board if we're going to go that route instead of mixing it all up. We've had uh experiences you know, with accidents on vehicles. So, I mean, if something one goes down or whatever, I mean, it's all the same, right? So, yeah. The difference is that you're not going to be patrolling in the UC vehicles. So, yeah. You don't think the UC a different color would make it more undercover? That would be my only thought. People, oh, that's just the police. When people figure out who you are, they know who you are. Yeah. It's just different because it's Canyon Lake. I mean, yeah, they're going to know. A resident's going to know. Res. A resident's going to know.

Um, hypothetically, as a kid running the streets, I could hear the sound of the car and know if I jumped in the bushes or not. So, it's I mean, I grew up a little different than most. So, uh, you don't need to look at them. Yeah. All good. It sounds unanimous, right? We're doing You guys good? all all black and then this of modification of this just communicating the will of the people golden all right I think you got direction

that gives us our vehicle uh general general idea it's going to look way better than anything that we could throw together by it's going to be some graphic artists that this is what they do for the organization all day and they're going to take uh the direction you you've said and they're going to go with it and then uh we'll be able to start using the patch in our branding. We'll be able to start using the the badge in our branding. So, pretty exciting.

I know the city attorney knows quite a few cities that could not do what we just did. All agree and not yell and scream and just kind of just graciously take polls from the community via text messages. I mean, that's pretty it's pretty good. Way to go Canyon Lake. We haven't talked about Haft and they're going to be washed now. Yeah. Oh, that's a whole different story. Are we good, Madam Clerk? Are we good, man? Uh, yeah. We got all of our informal items. We now have a badge. We have a general vehicle design and we have a patch. So, how do you want that motion? I think we got direction. Yeah, those were informal. That was We got We got the direction and that's on item 14. No,

that was 13. I'm sorry, 13. Are we ready to approve? Uh, item 14. Item 14, approve service agreements with Enterprise Fleet Management for procuring, leasing, and outfitting fleet vehicles.

Presentation by city manager Aaron Brown. Uh, mayor, I I feel like uh I've almost entirely given this presentation already, but uh I'd like to specifically comment on uh the enterprise program and uh the the luck I have had with uh uh the process and specifically uh we've got our our vendor here in the back who uh really comes alongside of you as a partner. Uh we have done this now um a few times. It started many years ago and I can tell you that Enterprise really backs what they're doing. Uh this is through uh a a cooperative purchasing program. So it is already bid. If a city our size were to try to go out and buy this, the amount of money we would pay would would be far more than what we're able to get with this bidding process. Uh I I cannot uh recommend more this process and and I've done it for many uh many agencies that have uh uh done the same thing. I've been a reference for what they do. I'm very very happy with the process. It is a little new. Uh I don't believe Zeke has done this specific Durango process uh going with uh their third party. Correct. Uh so there there's a little bit that we're learning but uh the absolute utmost confidence in specific specifically in Zeke and in uh enterprise and how this will get done. So I'm very excited to move this forward. But I would say uh what you have before you uh we would be making minor modifications and requesting um uh black instead of the destroyer gray. Uh everything else is in line with what we're doing. Uh we have everything built

out as is needed uh for what are three UC vehicles that would be for the the chief, the lieutenant, uh sergeant, and then four patrol vehicles and two CSO vehicles. The reason we have to get two Cso vehicles and not just reuse what we have is uh we need the CSO vehicles to be able to transport. So there are specific retrofits that are being done to be able to transport. We would like to keep our our officers here in the city and uh able to to continue to serve the city and the csos will be able to transport take those individuals uh uh to where they need to go and keep the officers here. So that that is the intent. Uh with that uh our our vendor is here and would be happy to take any questions that you may have if we've not gotten to them. Uh, and I also would be happy to take any questions.

Any questions on behalf of council? I got one and appreciate answering the questions yesterday. Uh, being new with we'll call it Durango on the Dodge side. Um, say we had a pivot to a different brand or maybe less vehicles. Any penalties or is our deposit refundable? Uh, we're making a motion for Durango, but what if being new, what if we had to pivot to a different brand?

No, we can't. We we we did pivot. That was what happened. And we pivoted to Durango. That we're we're almost out of brands because uh Chevy stopped taking their orders. Uh Ford told us that the order date was up until one day we go to make the order and they said, "Oh, we stopped taking them last year. We'll let you know when we start taking them for the next order." So, this is the pivot. We're We're out of pivots. This is Dodge is who we're going with. Um I'm I'm not a huge Yay Dodge person, but uh fortunately, he Zeke was able to get the Dodge representative on uh and specifically uh what would you say? assuage my woes and make me feel better and make sure that I understood the warranty and that they're going to back everything that's on there. So, uh th this this is for an order that we would be uh moving forward with. And I I can tell you if if something happened and uh we were not moving forward for some reason, there are a lot of agencies that would be knocking on our door asking for these vehicles right away.

Thank you for the answer. Any other questions? When will these uh vehicles land? We're shooting for March. Okay. Uh with the expectation that April could happen. Uh they said they they'd have no problem with March. Uh if if I felt like there was zero chance of delay, we would have requested April, but I I just really want to make sure we've got some room because we need uh our team that would be going. The the department could start as early as mid July. So even though we requested uh remember it is on or before the end of August. So if the team's ready to go and the chief's like, "What are we waiting for?" We we could pull the trigger right away. So we really got to have everything in place and ready to go.

Understood. If we do receive them early, would we be able to showcase some at the National Night Out? I forget what city's hosting it this next year, but could we start showcasing that? Absolutely. And if we receive them early, I will buy you a steak dinner, sir, because I have never received a vehicle early. And I would be very happy about that. Sizzler it is. Oh, we got to do better than that. No. No. He knows he knows my love of Sizzler. I appreciate that. Madam clerk, do we have any public comments? We do not. I need a motion and a second to approve service agreement with Enterprise Fleet Management.

So moved. Second. City clerk, could you please conduct a roll call vote? I. Council member Smith. I. Council member Steber. I. Council member Wely. I. Mayor. I. Motion passes. Item number 15, award of construction contract to Low Construction Incorporated for the Canyon Lake Police Department construction project in the amount of $637,230.

Uh thank you, mayor. Uh, I cannot say enough great things about uh Kevin Low or Low Construction. Uh, to to say that they hit it out of the park twice uh is an understatement. Uh, really really able to work with us on a level that many general contractors just wouldn't because we're coming in with a design that we know the GC is going to have to be a little bit flexible on and they've done that every single time. So, what we're requesting is uh the the award in the construction amount for $637, $230 for the construction that includes the downstairs. Now, there may be some additional retrofitting that we'll be doing alongside this general uh um uh general contract that because it is a police department, it falls under a risk for category and it has to meet those requirements to be a police department. So there are some things that as they're going through we may explore the architect and engineer are going to say you've got to brace this, you've got to block that. We we anticipate that. The reason I didn't do that line is because we don't know what it's going to be, but once I got uh uh a heads up from the architect and and the engineer that there would be no foundation changes, I know that it's going to be nominal. That was what was scary in the beginning was are they going to have to do anything to the foundation? If there's any bracing that's going to have to be done, it's going to be done with really with epoxy and and and a drill that we could do all day. So, just know that there are going to be some minor uh uh alongside this well within my signing authority to to do this, but that is anticipated. I

don't want anybody thinking that we just um throwing something together. Uh we're meeting every requirement we have. We're very fortunate because one of those requirements is excuse me survivability. We already have the generator power powering every aspect of uh city hall and the police department. So we've already met one of the high-risk requirements that's there and that is a an alternate uh power source. So the changes would be as you see in in the the diagrams, the entire buildout of downstairs uh that where the old council chamber was that really becomes where the the chief evidence armory um uh patrol would do their uh report writing. Uh there's some cubicle areas for that. and then uh an an interview room, a holding cell, and then upstairs where the deputy is today, that that and then the room behind it, which is a closet, become the showers and locker rooms. And then to the left of that will be a public area where CSOS can go and the um uh records could be requested, uh that kind of stuff. but it'll be the where where um those answers are publicly accessible. So, this request is to move forward with what we had labeled in the past as phase three to be able to complete the uh construction for the police department on both the the downstairs area and the upstairs with an expected completion date of mid November. Uh it'll it'll be ready to go and we could hold open houses, whatever we want to do with with that

of this year. Of this year. Wow. And and uh with low construction, they have delivered twice in exactly the time or under the time that they anticipated. So I see no reason whatsoever that this would be delayed other than the structural comes in and says, "Hold on, you need to do this." So it pushes it back a week or two. We're we're in a good spot. Very cool. What What about engineering drawings? I know we got a good design here, but what's that process look like?

Uh the engineering drawings because we needed to move uh quickly with that. That's actually going to be done alongside it. Uh so it's going to be kind of uh almost as built and engineering drawings, but that's because the architect and engineer are going to be coming through saying, "Okay, GC, here are the things you need to upgrade. This is what you need to do." and then they're going back drawing those things. It's the only way we could get it done in a timely manner and still meet all of those requirements because if we did not we we could be waiting on drawings for the next 6 months. I mean that's realistic and then we don't get to start until then and we don't have a department to run with. So, uh, it really was a lot of, um, um, for lack of better words, just begging for assistance and, um, uh, paying some nominal expedited fees to get things moving along. And then some partners in, uh, believe it's AMA, is that right, Mike, the architect for DMA, thank you. DMA uh partners in DMA and uh in uh low construction that that are allowing us to be able to do something at at this speed.

And I take it you've had conversations with the engineer based off of your layout. We've come to this cost of 637,230.

So the 630 is with the GC. Now, that's assuming that as the engineer comes in and says, "Hey, you're you're not going to need to do it this way." Like one of the things they talked about and and I don't know if uh Kevin has talked to him further. Um as we were talking about it, they said, "Well, I prefer metal studs." Well, the quote was for wood studs. And I said, "Okay, is that is that code? Is that change?" No, it's just my preference. Okay, that's out. like if it's not going to raise our level of uh safety for the police department down there and it's not going to meet all of our needs for the the higher risk category, then we're not going to just spend the extra money on it or the extra time. But everything that they need in terms of the structural, that will all be done. That that may end up coming in a little bit above that, but that's why we're keeping them separate.

Um Mr. Mr. Mayor, if I may, uh, Mr. City Manager, there's not a contingency fund in here. 10%. Uh, there's not a contingency. Um, do you want it? Yeah, that that probably would be very beneficial. That would be my my recommendation. I would approve the item, but I would recommend a minimum of 10%. That gives you 60 63,00 Yeah. 63,000 bucks um in regards to some of the moving components that you're going to need. That way, you don't have to come back to us. I know it's within your spending authority anyways, but I think it agreed. No, that that raises it 13,000 to where if if I need it, I think that would be great. So, if if there's no more questions from the the council, then I'll make that motion and we add the 10% contingency on top of the 637.

Is this my question is is this two different steps? One's to approve the contract as it sits and the second motion to put a 10% contingency in the finance side. No, it's just that's the actual original motion was to approve it as it is with the addition of the 10%. Okay. Yeah. All right. Good. Good. I have one comment and my comment is just that we are so lucky to have Kevin Low. Yeah. Completely agree. Uh he's planning to retire next year.

Uh it has been vetoed by every staff member. Um, but if he decides not to listen to us, uh, the city is very much looking for a Kevin Low Jr. is fine. Uh, because I I I said it before and I'll say it again. Hands down the best general contractor I have ever worked with. Very tolerant of me, which is uh, amazing. Um, does not change order you to death. And, uh, there are even times where I say, "Hey, we need to change this." and I know we need to pay for this so we need to make this modification and uh naturally they'll say I think I can integrate it into this and uh it's just a a true partnership so I I agree completely Mayor Po.

Any other comments? I have a motion motion in a second to award. Go ahead. I do have the motion. I just need a second. Madam clerk, will you conduct a roll call vote, please? Mayor Proin Castillo I. Council member Smith only because there's no public comments on this item. I council member Ste I council member I

motion passes. Item number 16, introduction and first reading of ordinance number 261, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California, adding title 5, business regulations, chapter 530, commercial filming to Canyon Lake Municipal Code. Presentation by our city attorney, Steven Graham. Thank you, mayor and councel. Uh this has been this was a request that came from staff and I I know that this has been a conversation that we've had in the city for quite some time. I remember actually when I when I first started we actually had uh some members of the public who would occasionally come and

Jack Wamsley and recommend uh that that we looked at it. Um we're we're we're not trying to regulate uh you know the city to death with this particular one. Uh but we are looking at treating that's a change order right there. We're looking at change

treating commercial filming uh the same way we we uh treat other businesses uh that that occur in the city that have the possibility of creating a public nuisance. Uh there are some state laws in this area. We've we've made sure to incorporate uh those provisions. But at the end of the day, uh essentially what we are looking for is ensuring that if you are going to engage in commercial filming in a place that's accessible to the public or on public property, uh that you are going to be obtaining a a permit from the city, uh you are going to be describing sort of what you're going to be doing. Are you going to have road closures? Are you going to be impacting public services in any way? Um happy to answer any questions, but uh it's relatively uh uh uh barebones ordinance in this area. Any questions? Yeah, go ahead.

What's going to happen inside the gates? It's all private. Does do we have any effect in there? The only thing I would see was maybe the fire department access, but

So, so you know the we obviously have a have a unique uh community here. So, if you look at 530 040, you see what what the uh applications of the permit is. Uh and it's city-owned property or controlled property. It's any place open to the public or private property open to the public within the incorporated area of the city for the purpose of conducting uh th those uh those filmings. Um we've interpreted here in in the city of Canyon Lake open to the public slightly differently than you may normally use that phrase. Uh we've interpreted to mean open to a majority of the public of the city of Canyon Lake. Um, and so the the intent on that one is, you know, if you're talking about filming along a street inside the gates, we would still want to look and see a commercial filming permit because that is, you know, for example, our public safety easement where that's how we we uh, you know, engage in public safety uh, activities.

City attorney, if I could jump in on this also, um, the instigator, if you will, what started this was the POA asking us for assistance.

Okay. uh where they they really had no way to to do that. When they looked at uh our process, we had the we had the fee, we had the permit, we didn't have the code, frankly, to enforce that. That's what this is doing. So, this is not in any way to impede on what is going on right now. It is to be able to give our our uh uh peers and associates uh the ability to support them through this process. My other comment is we do a lot of public service videos. 99% of those are done with a iPhone or a cell phone. This really doesn't apply to a person standing by on the shore and somebody taking a a phone and just saying, "Hey, come out and join the mermaids next week or

no. Uh, you know, uh, again, we're primarily looking at commercial filming activity. Uh it's the type of thing that you know you can identify based on the type of equipment that is being used uh and and the use to which it is being being placed. And again you know we're primarily looking at those activities which have the likelihood to cause a a public nuisance. Okay.

Are are we having the conversation about realtors? They do production videos. They do high-end, you know, drone videos. All that stuff. This doesn't impact them, right? So most realtor videos would be of private property that is not open to the public. is is extremely professional and involves at least one filming operator, whether it's a drone operator or someone handling the camera. And I don't consider them to be commercial film people.

No. And you know there's precedent for that in our code. You know there there are exceptions under the sign code for instance uh for for realtors uh and those types of activities. Uh we can certainly add an exception. Can we add some language in there just to I mean unless I got opposition here from my colleagues of course and I I'll stop but I think if there could be some type of language that would identify you know just because when you think of filming that's probably the number one type of filming that's going on in our community right now is in my opinion for for that real estate space.

I think we established that if it was at if it's at a home that's not the issue. when they'd be coming into the town center or something that would be specifically open to the public, would you want that to be like some of the other things we have the ability to administratively wave or do you want to look at just a total exemption of the realtor profession? I'm not looking at, you know, a caveat for Chapman University now partner up with a realtor to get through our permitting process, right? but maybe some language in there that identifies what a crew truly is. Well,

it's very common to have a an administrative process where basically they say, "Hey, we don't agree that we're that it goes typically to the city manager and you look at it and it really it's just a common sense test. You look at it and go, "No, this is not this doesn't fit the bill." And then you could wave it. That's that's pretty common. Uh I I would worry about exactly what you said of uh if we just exempt the realators. Exactly. Um

I mean you'd almost be silly not to charge $500 or whatever to to use your your realtor status to get something done. So um so I I'm I'm looking at drafting an ex exemption here and I think it would be based on the primary purpose of the filming which is related to the marketing of real property uh in in the city of Kenny Lake. I I don't think it would be based on your status as necessarily as a realtor because you're right that we're we're renting our license out, right? I mean, why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? That's what I would do. Also, uh attorneys can sell property. We don't have to real Yeah.

But uh so let let me let me work on drafting that exemption. And then I do think um I'm going to add a small tweak to 530040 just to clarify uh council member Walty's question. Making sure that this is applicable to private property uh that is generally accessible to the majority of residents of the city of Canyon Lake. I think that's how I'll phrase it as opposed to the public. So, if uh I had a reality show come to my backyard, but now all those vehicles are parked in the front since we're on private property behind the scenes, is that being exempt? Cuz then our roads are being used up by those vehicles. I don't understand the

So, if I'm hearing it clearly, there won't be this commercial fee if it's at private residence. And what if one of the private residents decided to have all these film crews come, but they didn't in their backyard to still keep it private, but all their vehicles are now on our streets? Is that what you said, city attorney? I don't think you I I think the council member was asking that question. Yeah, I'm more if we did that asking cuz even though the filming's not being we can't physically see it, there might be 10 15 trucks down a street, but they're in someone's house or in their someone's backyard. We'd probably never know and we'll never know. Besides seeing the 10, 15 vehicles in that front yard. Yeah.

But that was the POA specific concern was that kind of filming.

It wasn't as much the filming that was going on at the individual residence. It was when it left the residence and it went to the lodge and it kind of created some issues there. And um they're right that that it would be it would be nice to be able to call the city and say, "Hey, we need some assistance over here because we don't think they have a permit. We we need the city to come over and stop this." And after the ordinance is in place, we would be able to do that. Currently, we have nothing to enforce. We would just say, "Yeah, we we agree that they shouldn't do that, but there's nothing to stop it." But as in terms of the residence happening at the residence, I don't know that anyone has an issue uh with the the pro the I don't know what we call it.

Yeah. And and I I would say especially when we're talking about something like filming, any sort of expressive activity that could be protected by the first amendment. I always try to make sure that what we're regulating is time, place, manner. Um so, you know, you're talking about cars on the street, right? Well, there are lots of activities that people can conduct at their personal residence that might have people coming to their house and parking on the street, right? And so, you know, if we didn't if we did not live in a gated community here, right, what my response to that would be would be then draft an ordinance that relates to the nuisance you're concerned about, which is parking on the street. However, street parking is within the jurisdiction of the the POA. uh generally speaking when we're talking about the the private roads behind the gates. So, it's it's not something that I think we would be regulating with this type of ordinance. Uh we're we're primarily looking at activities that are occurring in those areas that are open to the public generally. And again, I'm going to work on that definition of public here shortly.

And and my question to you, Mr. City Attorney, looking at other ordinance like this in other jurisdictions, is it ever written in a place where the residents aren't required to necessarily pull this permit if they're if they're a resident or if they're, you know, part of that community. Like for instance, if Pepe's wanted to do a commercial in the town center, you know, and the owners of Pepes live in Canyon Lake and, you know, their businesses there, they would be required to pull this permit. Correct. I I'm not familiar with any jurisdiction that would have a exception for residents. Okay.

Uh because I think again you'd go back to the same thing we had with the realtor discussion which is okay well I'm going to get a resident to sign on to this. We we saw that with a business application process we went through in the past where you saw residents basically tacking on to to get bonus points. Yeah. Um and so uh I have seen um cities maybe reduce the fees for residents. Right. Uh but again, you know, we're we're primarily concerned about the potential nuisance activities and that exists regardless of whether someone's a resident or not.

Yeah. I just I I hope you know, I know we've been really good at Airbnbs, VBOs's. We've been good at finding um rental properties who are not part of our rental agreement program. I I I would hope that we wouldn't get in the business of going on Facebook and finding realtors who are doing videos and popping them or our restaurant owners like Canyon Cowboy who's coming in,

right? or Pepes or Sports or any anyone else and they do a video that clearly we don't have a permit on file for the restaurant of Pepes and now we're going to go ding them because they put together a production video that they paid money for and I just hope we're not doing that by this. I I mean that one's hard uh because kind of what you're saying in that specific instance is you wouldn't want us to enforce the code that would be there. That's a that's why I'm having a hard time with this one. That's why that's why for me it's difficult just because,

you know, when you look at the the businesses here and just how the world is operating on social media and Tik Tok, it is so heavily, you know, videographer type of world now. It's just the way the business is done. I mean, you cannot be a realer or business owner in my opinion in Canyon Lake and you're not doing a very good job if you're not doing production videos. All of our top agents, all of our top lenders, anyone who's doing, you know, a lot of business highlighting this community are all doing filming.

Well, there's this is not a proactive thing. It is much like code enforcement where it is reactive and there's complaints. And I can tell you in the the year and a half I've been here, this has only come up one time. And it came up the one time when the POA called saying, "Hey, can can we get some help?" And the initial answer is, "Of course, we're you know, we're coming alongside you." And I asked the question, hey, where's it at in our code that says we can do this? Because that's that's where you go. If you're going to site somebody through a violation of code, you got to have that code. We didn't have the code. We had the fee already. We had a permit you could fill out, but we had no code to enforce it. The only thing that I've been told that that this a similar thing has happened is and and I guess it was Pepe's that at one time Bar Rescue was there.

Yes. So, you absolutely would expect a filming permit for bar rescue and and that kind of process, but for somebody walking up with their iPhone and doing Tik Toks or Instagram reels or any of that stuff, one, I wish we had time to know that that happened. And and two, we would never be proactively looking for something like that. But sure, if you saw a very formal, very um uh professionally done video after the fact, it'd be hard not to go, "Oh, was there a permit for that?"

Just like if somebody had a roof put on and you see it, you go, "Oh, was was there a permit for that?" But we have everything in place currently. We've operated as if we had everything, including the code. We only knew we didn't have the code because we've never cited anybody.

A couple of couple of uh items here. Uh, I'm going to recommend that uh for 530050, the council consider uh an exception for filming conducted solely for the purpose of marketing or documenting the sale or lease of a specific parcel of real property by a California licensed real estate broker or salesperson or by a vendor engaged by such licency which shall be exempt from the permit application or permit fees. I will send the language over to the city clerk if the council agrees. That would be the sort of real estate exception. That'd be a new section E added to that. um for 5300040 to address uh council member wealthy's concerns. Uh the language I'm going to be recommending is no person shall use city- owned or city-controlled property or any place open to the public or any private property open to the public or any private common area, private street, park, lake, trail, or other facility within a common interest development or property owners association located within the city that is open for use by the association's members, residents, invitees, or accompanied guests. That way we're not using our customary definition of public here. We're just going to be very explicit

uh that you know those areas are not public areas even though every resident in the city of Canyon Lake can can use them. Uh so we'll just be pretty explicit there. Um going back to the conversation that you just had with city manager. Um for all of our ordinances it's always a concern that that we are equally applying them. um that is all the more true when we're talking about a regulatory ordinance that regulates a a first amendment a potentially first amendment protected activity. Um and so I I would say that you know if if there is significant heartburn on the council that there are activities that go on in the city and you don't think that they should be subject to a permit and you think they would fall within the provisions of this ordinance. I would not recommend that we rely on the city's discretion in non- enforcing that ordinance as the stop gap because I think that that would uh endanger the enforcability of the ordinance. I think the the better thing to do uh would be to maybe give us some more time to marinate and really find out what are the activities that are causing the nuisance. Maybe it's the the size of the crew. I mean, you know, maybe it's if you're going to have a crew of five or more, right? And I think that would create an exception that would exempt most of the activities that maybe the council's concerned about while still addressing sort of largecale commercial filming activities which have the tendency to create nuisance act uh within within the city. And so I think I think that's kind of the recommendation I I would have. I think you're going to decide the crew because literally every grand opening has a videographer and it goes on the chambers page, right? I mean, one of the biggest videographer groups we have here is the POA itself who goes around and videos their events to put it on their website. And we don't want

and most of those videographers are one maybe two guys. They're doing almost all this is one or two people. Three, I would say three at the most. I don't anytime you're over three suddenly you got a mic guy, you got a camera guy, you got a light guy. Other than that, you're you're really commercial big time to me, but we just have it's a world of video and Tik Tok and you know, if just the way it is, I don't want to. So, more than three. Stop. I I'm good with three. More than three. I I mean, maybe we just request council table this item. Uh because we're almost there.

Well, but we're getting into areas that I've never seen before where you start regulating how many people are in a crew and then you start I mean, it'd be very easy to say, "Oh, you're not on crew. you're actually uh you're not a grip today. You're going to be and you start lowering that number. Uh I I mean completely understand where you're coming from with the realtor and finding that example, but there are so many ways to start we're creating holes that make these things so uninforceable. And there's nothing that I get from this code that would even use the POA filming their own events as an example of that. That's that's really not a a a commercial event. And do you like the changes that Sorry. Do you like the changes that the city attorney

Absolutely. I feel like

so I mean for me personally my my um and I apologize I usually don't do this on the fly but my my issues with the ordinance has completely been taken care of with that change of language. So, I understand completely having all of the the tools and you're not able to do what the tools are letting you do, which is why you need the ordinance. I think with the with the comments that the city attorney just made adding what Mr. Welty wanted and then myself, um I know for me, I'm good with it. Now, that was my only concern was when I read it and and I was actually going back and forth on it of just maybe not even saying anything and just being a no vote or just I don't know. But now that that's been addressed, you know, really looking at how this community function, I I think I'm good. I'm good. So, if if you want to table it, Mr. City Manager,

no, I think if we go back to that, I I think the city attorney nailed it with that. It it's I still see it as completely enforceable. It gives again the POA came to us for help. It gives us the teeth we need to be able to assist them. we start creating holes in it to where we've got to ask them, oh, okay, well, how many people are on their crew? They don't know how many people are on the crew. We're going to send code enforcement to see what's going on with a situation like that. And if you have that many holes, you're not even going to send enforcement out there cuz it's it's never going to go anywhere.

And, you know, I'll be what's beautiful about our councils, we all have different expertise, right? And so, for me, real estate is really important. I believe it's what, you know, is so important to Canyon Lake. It it allows us to have high property values and what our realtors do here in this community to highlight our community is going into public space, going into private space. And I think that language added in there from the city attorney, it protects any issues that I had with the ordinance because I I want them to continue to do the good job they're do doing highlighting this community without having to be concerned about code enforcement shutting down a stinking Tik Tok video because they're just doing their job. So that's I'm good. And if you you don't want to sell a house, don't put pictures on the MLS, right? I mean, that's that simple. So,

and whoever has the best photos and the and the best videographer kind of wins it out, right? And that's that's why it's important for me on this ordinance gone this way. Yes, the industry is 100% this way. I I think we can address the the final sort of concern here with so we've already created the exception for real estate operations. I think we can create an exception. I'll just call it dimminimous small scale filming. Exactly.

And so that would be uh an exception uh for any commercial motion picture television still photography that is small scale and non-disruptive uh and has no more than five persons including talent who are engaged on site at any time. So I think that you can have that one. Now city manager is correct. Right now we're going to go out there and count people. Uh, but the truth is we're not going to issue citations unless code enforcement goes out there anyway. And I think to to to Mr. City Manager, your point is completely accurate and I I agree with it, but we're want we want the teeth. This gives us the teeth to even show up on scene. Right. We don't have the teeth to show up on scene right now. Correct. So now,

but we didn't go. We didn't go. So now, whether it's three or whatever, now we can at least show up and ask questions. Now we can start the investigation. Now we can figure out what's going on here. And then we can say, "Guys, just go pull from it real quick. This is a bigger production than we're used to here. You got to go down to city hall and pull permit. So my question on this for the city attorney is who decides what dimminimus is uh council. And so I think limiting it by the num number of persons involved including the talent uh would be the and the additional requirement that it be non-disruptive and so I think disruptive would be in the discretion of the sighting official if it is disrupting uh the area. Uh, and then you have the objective standard of the number of persons involved,

right? I'm not quite sure the number of people you could do a you could do a production and and be a disruption with two crew members. So I I I included the talent in that. So the people being filmed, not just the people doing the filming. Yeah. Uh, but you know, you can drop that number down. I I would I would say that yeah, I mean, one person can be disruptive if they choose to. My hope would be that there would be some other law or regulation disturbing the piece govern what they're doing.

Isn't there a portion of this that if you're going to come into Canyon Lake and do a video utilizing our backdrop, isn't that also part of this concern that you are now taking our private property and using it for a commercial purpose? That that that's hard because it gets into exactly what uh the city attorney said that there's we start trampling upon amendments that

but that's really not the city's problem. That's really the POA's problem. They're using the POA facilities and if the POA wants to police them for using the camera on their property, that's one that's their issue. And for us to say, you know, you're going to use it on our our public area here is kind of crazy. But we could to add to our dimminimus the you know number of people I picked five council members at three. Whatever number the council thinks is dimminimous we can put it in there. Uh one of the things we can include is that if you are on private property which includes association areas that you are filming with the written permission of the property owner which in that case would be the POA. And so that would be an easy objective thing for city staff to to to go out there and say

do you have a permit? No. Do do you have written permission from the POA to be filming on their property? No, you do not. That is huge. Why do we have to go to the number though? Why why does that part have to be integrated in there? Because again, it's going to be I agree.

How many people are there? How many are filming? That's almost irrelevant. And and I think what you just added is awesome because I don't want to be in a position where the POA calls us for help. And they they don't do that a lot. They they really don't. And I'm saying we took this to the city, but you know, we really can't help you with that because I don't know how many people are there. Is it is it a problem? If it's if it is causing a ruckus, if you will, there are other things that we can go get involved in. But I feel like we get in a little too much into minutia when we're adding a number. The thing that the council member Smith asked for in the beginning was just an exemption for realators. That makes sense. We came up with a a great solution through that process and then now

now you want me to do it twice. No. No. Stop. What? Yeah. Uh and money ball. Hang up the hang up the phone. Like let me let me try it without the number. See see if I can see if the council get to consensus on it. In my mind it's permission to the owner because the owner can then take responsible for how many people he wants on his property.

So So that's where I'm going with this. So, uh, permit application requirement and permit fees established by this chapter shall not apply to commercial motion picture, television or still photography that is smallcale and non-disruptive. And I just leave those without a specific objective criteria provided that any filming on private property including private common area blah blah blah blah occurs with the written consent of the property owner or controlling association and in compliance with their rules. Such proof of such consent is to be produced upon request. And so I just say small scale and non-disruptive. I don't define what I think that's perfect because if somebody is calling us for help, it's clearly disruptive. Now you have something to do. Yep.

For my colleagues at the end of this DAS who have not engaged in this conversation, I want to apologize for taking your time this evening. Um but I want to say thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Uh I I'm good 100% with what is what has been written and I'm I'm a go 100 without a doubt. So would be would your motion be for my motion would be to move forward with ordinance 261 with the city attorney's recommendation that I cannot repeat for the life of me but I know that he's sending this to our city clerk so she's going to have it

ju just so we have it on on the recording it's to amend 530040 the permit requirement to include private property under the control of a property owners association and to add exceptions E which is filming for marketing for real estate and F which is the dimminimous and smallcale filming. I'll send the exact language of that to the city clerk and it'll be on the second reading. Right. This will come back for the second reading. It'll be effective 30 days after that reading. So moved on my part. Do we have any public comments? Mayor, we do not. Need a second. I'm here. City clerk, would you like to conduct a roll call vote? Mayor Proim Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. I,

Council Member Sever. I, Council Member Welty. I, Mayor Terry. I, Motion passes. You've got the next one, right? The next 17. Adoption of urgency ordinance number 262, an urgency ordinance of the city council of the city of Canyon Lake, California, amending the fire code of the city of Canyon Lake. Presentation by city attorney Steven Graham.

Uh, very good. And I I'll ask the the fire chief uh to assist me. I'll give the maybe the background here and the fire chief can explain uh why these uh amendments are necessary uh for the preservation of the safety uh in the city of Canyon Lake. Uh the reason why you have an urgency ordinance in front of you amending the fire code instead of the more traditional ordinance that we're going to get on the trienal cycle later this year uh is that the legislature uh adopted the provisions of assembly bill 306. Now, they didn't actually adopt 306. They took the majority of the provisions of 306. They folded it into their budget trailer bill, AB130, and they adopted it on an urgency basis, putting it into effect immediately instead of putting it into effect on January 1st of 2026. And what they've done is it it it's a little bit of a a tug and pull here. On the one hand, uh they have severely restricted local control uh by removing a lot of the discretion that local agencies like the city of Canyon Lake have to impose additional building code standards for buildings that are being constructed in the community for residential structures. Uh the intent of the legislature in this area is to essentially freeze the model building code standards in in jurisdictions throughout the state for the next six years. The stated purpose of this when they originally started this discussion was to assist on the reconstruction uh following the Palisades and the Aladena fires. Um but what it has done in in reality is that there's a lot of cities that be based on their own local conditions they have created heightened standards uh under the building and fire codes and other residential codes. Um and the state is trying to put a a a freeze a moratorium on that for six years. Um you can still have those local changes but it's going to go through an

extremely rigorous uh state level review. So on the one hand, uh, they're restricting local control. On on the other hand, the the intent is to stop a lot of local jurisdictions across the state who maybe have gone too far in creating extremely complicated local rule sets that makes it very difficult to do residential construction in those jurisdictions. Uh, so uh, this got brought to my attention uh, by by the fire chief uh, during one of our monthly uh, meetups. uh and uh he had some changes that he wanted to make sure we got on the books because if we get them on the books by September 1st uh they will be grandfathered in we don't have to go through the heightened uh regulatory review process. Uh so with that I will turn it over to the fire chief. He can explain uh what those provisions are and and why they are uh important that we get on the books now.

Thank you Mr. City Attorney. Um, most of the new amendments that we're proposing as part of the fire code really have to deal with fire department access, addressing, and our ability to gain access to properties. Uh, as we speak, we have two properties that are being developed off of railroad. These individual properties have very long residential driveways. Um the requirements for those driveways needed to be updated so that we can get our fire apparatus down there that the roads are rated for the weight of the fire apparatus. We can't be 1,000 ft away and that's what some of these driveways are and effectively fight fire in in a home or even provide emergency medical assistance. I mean the um elevation change on some of these are are are 50 100 ft in in elevation changes. We also found recently with another development that's occurring on um C Vacation Drive that while the property is addressed off of Vacation Drive, it's accessed off of a little narrow I don't even want to call it a road off of Bonanza that's probably a quarter mile away. And so when you get a 911 call, you're looking for an address on vacation and the only way to get there is off a completely other street. It's very similar to what uh Mayor Prom has talked about before with our flag lots and the length and the the difficulty of us gaining access off the flag lots. So the requirements that we have are recommending tonight deal with our ability to better access these. We didn't just think of them on our own. We're trying to work with the other fire agencies in Riverside County and we're trying to build uniform standards so

that when a development comes in, they're not just going to HMED or Mya and it's different here or different there. We're trying to provide uniformity in what we're doing. So, we wanted to take this opportunity. We were planning on doing this in the regular code cycle adoption. This AB bill changed all that and sped up the process, hence the need for the urgency ordinance tonight. And those are essentially the changes that we're proposing. I am available for any questions if you have more specifics. Any questions? Any public comments? We have none. Need a motion and a second to adopt urgency ordinance number 262.

I motion. Second. City clerk to conduct a roll call vote. Mayor Potim Castillo. Hi. Council member Smith. Hi. Council member Sber. Hi. Council member Wely. Hi. Mayor Terry. I. Motion passes. Committee and council reports and comments. Any council members like to provide a report or comment? It's a late night. I think we can wait until next month. I'll catch you all up. Yeah, I'm I'm the same. We were dark last month. So, um I'm good. Um the only comment I have is microphone.

Sorry. Lots of our Canyon Lake kids went back to school, so that's exciting. Wish them the best year ever. And our spouses. Yes, that's right. My only comment would be uh not only us in this room, but the entire community have a safe uh Labor Day weekend and uh hopefully everyone can make it out for our 911 event that will be held in the morning at the fire station. Correct. Yes, I'm getting thumbs up. So, that's all I have.

All right. Well, before we do leave tonight, once again, I want to commend our public safety ad hoc committee. I think without you guys, and I'm not trying to float your boat, this is going really smooth. Thank you, city manager, for all the hard work that you're doing as well. Very exciting night, and um I think our residents are, you know, eventually going to really, really embrace this department. I think it's really great for them. Um they deserve it and um awesome job. Really tremendous job. Okay, help me out with this. City manager, I am to announce that the next regular city council meeting will be held on September 10th, 2025, but

uh there's a couple things. I do have some comments. Uh oh, if uh made I kind of like his approach. He was just saying no one's making comments. Moving on to September 23. City manager comments.

Uh I I do have some comments. Uh uh one uh very excited about uh what was done here. Excited about the direction. Uh I can't wait to start uh branding. Uh I'm really excited that council approved moving forward with the uh positions uh the police chief and the supervising cso. Those two positions are incredibly important. As you know, the the the chief is the head of the organization. Um, our police chief has some huge shoes to to fill in that uh we've got uh our fire chief who who's been there and done that and and and has done this before and did it with grace and professionalism and and really showed the expectation of what the police chief is going to have to do. Uh I I've made the joke several times that uh I'm very excited to get a police chief in here because uh I told the mayor I love the green mile and I'm tired boss. Real tired. Um, I I'm excited to do that. And I've got a couple of questions about the the police chief and the process. And uh the the city of Canyon Lake has a city council city manager form of government where the there are two direct reports to city council and and that is the two of us, the city attorney and the city manager, and then the department heads report to the city manager. And I am extremely aware of the importance of uh public safety and the uh importance of the the police and fire chiefs. Very fortunate to come into an organization with an outstanding fire chief. Um because they they uh do so well. Uh I don't get to spend as much time with the fire chief

as as I'd like. Uh but with the police chief, I had a lot of of sleepless nights really because this is this is an important position and uh it's this is the I in the source in the in the sense of the word I. I've got to get it right and I really feel like like I have and a lot of people want this job and a lot of people have reached out through various ways some of them direct. I want to talk to you about being your next chief. The thing for me is it had to be somebody that I'm extremely comfortable with because it's it's like a horrible analogy, but it's real. It's like it's your baby and you're giving your baby to somebody you've got to trust. So I I'm I am extremely confident that by our next meeting uh we will come to an agreement with the the chief and uh the chief will be able to come and be introduced be announced and the public will be able to meet their police chief and I want them to understand that I do not take the responsibility bestowed upon me by this council politely. This this chief has gone through the mental ringer for me. The everyone I talked to, every coffee shop I went to, every restaurant I went to, uh every uh bar I went to, because it depends on which chief you're you're you're talking to. all the right questions were asked and I I really knew

for a long time who I wanted. Uh sometimes they just have to come to the same realization that you do. And I'm I'm very excited. Same with the the senior cso who will really be able to take uh records and and all of our processes or supervising cso and be able to take all of that and and run with it. So, uh, that that's really my update, mayor, is that, uh, uh, we're going to be in a great position to launch this. I'm fully confident that I will be able to have the police chief here to sign their contract and move forward. We're going to have some slip ups and what we call them because the sheriff, uh, the the captain is our police chief per our contract. It says it in there. So our our chief will be transitioning chief or interim chief or whatever lawyer word we have to call it, right?

Then until they become the chief, but just understand from day one, uh this is Canyon Lakes Chief and they're going to be doing everything to get that that department established. And I've tried everything I can to make sure it's in a position where I'm truly handing handing them a baton while sprinting. Um there wasn't a lot of uh lazy boy time on this. So I think we've made a tremendous amount of progress in a very short time. When council initially said ready, go be ready in August. I I I had a lot more hope than confidence and I'm at a point now where as I said earlier we could be in a position or we could start before the end of August and that's a great spot to be in. We've still got some huge hurdles without a doubt but all of those are going to be accomplished uh professionally. They're going to be uh accomplished with with confidence and with an intent to leave a lasting legacy for the city of Canyon Lake and its police department.

Love it. Absolutely love it. Thank you, Aaron. Um like to announce that our next regular city council meeting will be held on September 23rd, 2025. And with that, this meeting is adjourned.