City Commission - Regular Meeting

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Okay, we'll go to order. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [laughter]

Okay. Are there any additions or corrections to the consent calendar? I'll second roll. Commissioners Garbers. Hi, Carlson. I York. Mayor Lstrom. Hi.

Okay. Um, and we'll go right to visitors to be heard. Um, if this is about something that is not on the agenda, you may speak for five minutes. You come up and state your name and address. And so, we'll begin. Commissioners, mayor, uh, Roger Sonic, uh, 28295480th Avenue, CAM, Charlie Temple, 2011 Carol Street, Canton.

We're going to keep this really short. The reason we're here, back in November, I think it was November 17th, you had a meeting about this ISG um, proposal about going forward for a community center. Um, at the end of the meeting, you were talking about it was going to cost like $15,000 and there's probably some different ways you could have approached or anything like that, but that's okay because what we're going to do, we discussed it at our monthly meeting and we decided that we were going to pay half of that. And that's what we're going to do tonight. We got a check here for $7,500.

And we're going to do that for two reasons. to let you know that we still are behind this this whole project and I think this is a good thing what you're trying to do right here. So anyway, if you need anything from us as a group or individuals, please call because we're here to help with this. We haven't given up on it by all means. So with that being said, Shirley has a check for you. Who wants it? Good money lady. [laughter] There you are. Thank you so much. Thank you. And thank you very much everybody.

There anybody else that is anything that is not on the agenda? If not, um Real Water Regional, you want to come forward if you have a presentation for us? Good evening, commissioners. Uh, my name is John Sterns. I'm here on behalf of Lincoln Regional Wastewater System. Uh, and we were invited to give anformational meeting or presentation to you folks on what what we've been working on on your behalf as we kind of get this regional wastewater system off the ground. So uh Lincoln Regional Wastewater was incorporated late oh about six eight months ago now and the idea is that we pulled together communities and serve their wastewater needs. So back in 2022, ISG completed a regional wastewater study and it sat on the shelf for a few years until the idea of a rural water system, South Lincoln water in this case, might be a neutral third party to manage and operate such a system. From that point, we hired Steve Watson to work on our behalf to build a coalition. And that coalition building was very successful. We're now kind of at the end of that. And the result was cities of Lennox, Canton, Worthing, and Beersford have all agreed to participate in a regional wastewater study at some point in the future. No one really knows when that might be. Um, we're kind of looking at this as a 40, 50ear solution. And some cities are going to need that or going to realize that need more or sooner than others, but we want to be there to support the need as it arises. So during those during that coalition building, Steve Watson and uh the team with DGR who's here behind me met with those communities to discuss what do you

guys need now? What do you need in the future? What is your current technology? And what is the lifespan of your existing technology? And from there the team at DGR was was able to put together the framework of a 3.1 million gallalon mechanical water treatment plant cited here in Canton. That project is is being designed or the idea behind that project is to meet the needs that the cities and the county have expressed a need for and then reserve some capacity for future growth, especially in the in the areas where the county has identified for future expansion. Um, namely interchanges along I29 that they have put in their comprehensive growth plan for 2050. So our next steps after we kind of pulled everyone together, we've then been, of course, the question is how much is this going to cost? What's it going to do to our rates? How are we going to fund it? And so those are some of the questions we're trying to answer. Now, as part of DGR's initial work, they put together a a benefit and cost analysis. And the main things we're trying to accomplish is redundancy so that that this this mechanical plant can [snorts] can sustain you know high high influx without detrimentally affecting discharge and that kind of thing. Um and then the cost and the cost at the top line right now we have $108 million and that seems and it is a very large number and so that is the project built out completely that includes treatment here in town conveyance from Beersford Lennox and Worththing all to Canton so that's a lot of conveyance and it is it is the end of the the project so what does that number look at the beginning we don't really know and that's where we're at now in our next steps. So, as the coalition's been formed and has

continued to give input, we're now at a point where we are chasing some funding through a unique opportunity that the uh the EDA is putting together. So, as part of the 2024 disaster declaration at Canton from the flooding here in town, there is some money through two different pathways that we're going to pursue. The first pathway is called the readiness pathway and that path is for non construction costs. So in this case a study to put together what does this project look like in final design. So the questions about 108 million what's it going to do to my rates? All of those would all be answered in that peer. Furthermore, governance would be answered and how each count each community would be represented on a board of directors and all of those things need to be sorted out in the per phase. The PR is very expensive and so part of this grant would be to accommodate that those costs hopefully in full. Um, right now the communities have been asked to kind of put together some additional projects that we can include in this in this application. Uh, those projects are due to us by the end of the year. And so sometime in January, we'll take the next steps working with SECOG to put together an application and submit it to the EDA for review. provided we get through all of that then there's an implementation phase that we can apply for as well that in grants are awarded in the millions of dollars towards construction um it all of that I mean it just depends on how we phase it would phase one be the city of Canton by itself would phase one include the city of Canton city worth we don't really know and that's where the PER would help us kind of establish some of those timelines what we've been told in talking with the ED representatives is that is a very competitive application process and so

we want to make sure all of our eyes are dotted and teas are crossed before we make the final submission. So Tyler Torson is working with us from SMGA as is Jeff Tanner and then Eric and Miriam from DGR we're putting together kind of our next steps and then approaching approaching CC cut here like I said after the first of the year to get something moving forward with the application process. Um, yeah. So, just to kind of wrap up before I take some questions, we appreciate you folks being willing to to contribute financially to our coalition building. I think we're kind of at the end of of this step and are moving now into the funding step. We had really good conversations with all the communities that signed up. We've gotten support from the cities of Canton, Worthing, Lennox, and Beersford. We've got a letter of support from Lincoln County and a letter of support for the project from the state of South Dakota through the governor's office of economic development. So with all of those letters of support for our coalition, we feel like we are in a very strong position uh to go after funding whether it is through the EDA or other sources as we as we move forward. So with that, are there any questions for me or Tyler or or anyone else in the group? You mentioned the towns. Yes. And I ask some of these questions, but just so it's on record,

how would you decide who can hook up to it

besides the towns? Well, again, that's a per question is part of the final design of this project is what is it going to look like at at interchanges at the interstate? those kinds of things would be would come out in the in the per and then as requests come in for connection we would have to kind of handle those on a on a case by case basis but the I believe there's strength in trying to facilitate some mechanism for hooking people up outside of cities you know not just at you know there's a line running from the treatment [clears throat] plant here out to the interstate I would hope that we'd be able to connect people along that line because it's just an opportunity for for growth for the system and just the tax base in general. So,

and to share costs, you know, across not only the communities but also other folks that are not. Maybe too early to ask, but would it be like South Lincoln World Water that you're going to be the owner or whatever word you want to use, but that you would be build from system?

You'd be build from a separate entity called Lincoln Regional Wastewater. The water system and the wastewater system would be separate and governed separately. There is some overlap right now in governance just to help get you know things things moving. Um but yeah you would have you know if the city of can would have two separate build one for water one for waste if they came to that and we believe there's strength in having these communities involved much in the way Lewis and Clark you know 354 years ago got it start. This [snorts] might seem obvious to some, but the the sighting of the plant, the treatment plant in can. Yep. Why?

Two reasons. One, it's downhill, and two, it is close to the discharge point in the Big Su River. Okay. So, there's there's a lot of advantages to that. And yeah, we've we feel like it would be a good position. And this would replace the one that we have currently. I would have to refer to Miriam on the specifics of that, but I don't think I'm out of turn in saying yes, it would replace it completely. It would the ponds could be used for equalization in high in high events and possibly some pre-treatment, but I leave it to M to answer specific questions on that.

Um, yeah, I think Don said it well. you would we'd probably have you guys retain at least one of your ponds to help equalization and so we don't have to worry about like those peak weather events. Um but overall as far as the treatment and the discharge point that would be it kind of wherever we site that new mechanical plant. Thank you. any others. When are you hoping to I mean I know everything's up in the air yet but

so the two biggest questions we get are how much and when and I don't have answers for those Paul I wish I did but it so in the conversations Canton is probably the most is the the need needed to so these funding applications that we're approaching have rolling they have rolling at application deadlines like there's no set time that says hey we're stopping our applications now and we'll order of funding in six months. We just don't know that. Uh there's we don't know if EDA is going to be our only request. And so I I would love to be able to say in 2029 we can have wastewater treatment, but I just I can't say that in good faith. So we're going to continue pursuing all these funding applications and keeping all the members of the coalition informed on kind of what our diff what are our different funding paths we're taking. And as those answers become available, then we can start to drill in the scope of the project. And once we get the scope of the project drilled in, we can start to drill in on the timeline. So really, we got funding is the next hurdle to clear. And once we can at least get some sort of traction on that, then we can start to answer scope and timing.

You said phases. Do you have phases in mind or we have phase one will be in some capacity would be a plant here in town. uh phase the other phases, you know, phase one might in include some conveyance outside of town. We don't really know. Um but phase one would be the mechanical plant. Whether it's it won't be the full 3.1 million, I don't think, but it would be something that can be easily scaled to that number that we have. And 3.1 isn't the number we should end on necessarily either. Uh, I think the design that Eric and De and Miriam put together allows us to add on treatment trains later on to go beyond that if the need if the need demands it.

Any other questions? Go buy a lottery ticket tonight and pay for it. [laughter] Cheap. I think it's a great idea. I mean it thank you for taking that on but it's yeah it's a huge huge huge project. It is a huge project and we're in the early phases of it but yeah appreciate the support from this from this group and we'll keep moving forward. I do believe your entity is the best entity to drive this too. Okay. As like you said as a neutral entity. Yep. Yep. We'd be a neutral energy entity and we'd have representation from the members and much like we run our water much like we run our water system. Thank you very much for your Thank you. Thank you.

Anyone else?

That we'll move on um to new business. Um the first item on the agenda is going to be passed over until a later date. Uh we are going to give it a pass tonight because our police commissioner is not here and not available. So we'll move on to item number B. Um the 2026 salary resolution um state statute requires the commission set by resolution the list of compensation of officers of the city of Canton. The resolution is based on implementing the approved step and grade system. The resolution reflects a 3 point 3 3% cost of living adjustment for all employees as well as one step on the step and grade system for employees who had a positive evaluation. Um new wages will go into effect on first paycheck of 2026 and is there discussion on that? play was back in front of us.

Salary resolution. What? Salary. This is We're voting on the 3%. No, because we already did that. We already did. You did. Correct. Um, you're required to vote and put the everybody's salaries into the meeting minutes and it's once a year. Motion. Second. A motion. A second. Is there any other discussion? Any questions? Recover roll. Commissioners Carlson I. York. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Maril Lunstrom. Hi.

Let's see. Next is a recreation board appointment. Um, it's recommended to appoint Matt Vanam to the recreation board for a three-year term. Matt has turned in a letter of in interest for this, so he's not being railroaded. And so it requires a motion and a second to approve this motion. Second. A motion and a second. You want to call roll. Commissioners York. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Carlson. I mayor Lindstrom. Hi.

Okay. Next is Apogee. A city the city newsletter contract increase. Um it's [snorts] for the city's website. An application administrator has released a new feature allowing municipalities to create newsletters to help keep citizens better informed on city topics. This feature allows for newsletters to be created and distributed in various ways, including the website, social media, email, and print. This feature is an additional $1,000 cost to the annual contract. A motion is needed to approve this increase. Think it's great idea. Motion to approve. We have a motion. Do we have a second?

Second with questions. What? [clears throat] Again, I'm all for it, but how are we going to get from people to saying just like two weeks ago or whenever it was, I never knew about Yeah.

the letter we sent out. How is this going to help that? So it's we were excited by the the multiple [snorts] formats and you know not just all those digital versions that we can facilitate through the website the app and and Facebook and what have you but it produces a file that you can easily send off to the printer too to get physical newsletters printed. So because yeah we need to hit all forms of of media both traditional print media and online. So, it's still up to us to to utilize it right and and go above and beyond and get it out in front of people. Um, you know, we could distribute it to local businesses, direct mail again to homes. You know, the survey, I think we we [clears throat] took the step of not including it in a water bill because we didn't want to get it to get discarded like water bills do for people on autopay, but it still obviously didn't get noticed by enough folks. newsletter. If we did direct mail it, it's going to look different enough. I think it's going to get opened up if we direct mail. And direct mail to every household in town isn't all that expensive.

Totally agree with you. But our survey did that. Yep. Separate envelope and we still got The envelope was pretty nondescript though. I'm guessing a lot of people dumped it in their trash because the envelope didn't really say. I mean, it was pretty non-escript blank white envelope. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas a newsletter, it's I mean, you slap your your mailing sticker on it and you'll get the whole thing and hold it won't even go in an envelope. But in between newsletters, you know, until you've come out with your next issue, you you keep them on hand at city hall and hand them out to people. Like I said, we can even pick a few businesses and and have them distributed there, too. But

I'm poor. It's just how do you how do you Yeah, we can't force people to open the mail. But but yeah, we can't rest on their laurels either. We have to be proactive about getting in front of people. Apty aptage must be realizing other municipalities are having the same issues. Yeah. So that this is a new feature that they're coming out with because everybody's saying well I don't have the social media and I have which is what we heard in the survey. Y and you know pretty limited cost.

Sure. And we gathered newsletters from a lot of area cities in southeast South Dakota and Minnesota and Iowa. And you know, they run the gambit to how professional and well put together they look too. And um this this would help make it look well put together and clean and everything too. So we're excited about because honestly the most daunting part about a newsletter isn't necessarily the content. It's putting it all together and having it look good. Maybe I'm I'm old emails. Do we have people's emails that this could go out on an email so it pops up on every not enough that?

Yeah. Only the but the same way with the free app that we have that people don't take advantage of it way for people to see. What is the current way we're we're communicating with the public? No. What's the current way that 80% of the people in can that's going to pop up on their phones, oh, whatever your age, my age, everybody else in between, how are they going to see this? And is this going to take care of that? $1,000 ain't nothing. I think we'll still, but I don't want to throw it at him. That still doesn't help what we're trying to

It really depends on our generation. like so many different generations. You [clears throat] know, some going to be it's going to be the app and some people it's going to be the newspaper and some people it's going to be whatever comes in the mail and some people it's going to be, you know, an email or a Facebook or a, you know, it might be taking 40 of them and dropping them off at the senior center. Yeah. [snorts] Or the library or Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's I think that's the issue is this isn't 25 years ago when everything was done in the newspaper in the mail because now we have so many different ways to get information and uh you can't just pick one

because all of us different generations of people are going to go for something different. Okay. If there's no other discussion call [clears throat] commissioners garbbert I Carlson I York. Hi. Mayor Lstrom.

Hi. Okay. Next on the agenda is the Beaver Creek trunk um sewer project. It's the change order number three. Um Myron Adams with JSA submitted um change order number three. This is the final change order for the project. It contains two items. Item number one is a result of the delay in permitting the be Berlin the railroad. I'm just going to say that and Wilson and company which results resulted in an extra mobilization for the boring contractor um they attached the invoices and the payment from first rate which accounts for this extra cost. Um item two of the change order is the balancing of the estimated bid quantities with the final con um as constructed quantities. the estimated bid quantities were slightly higher than the as constructed quantities resulting in a net decrease in overall contract price for the city. So motion is needed to accept this

item one. Who's lack a word whose [clears throat] I couldn't tell you for sure. I wasn't here during the project last year. Um but I understand that there was definitely some frustration and confusion working with the railroad and timing to get there. their third party outfit out here. You have to pay the railroad up front and then they send a person out here to monitor you while you work within their their area. I mean, I remember going through all that. It's just my question is now they're adding on 15 grand. [clears throat] Yeah.

I just don't take anybody's word that that's our problem. And to be clear, they they added this these numbers a long time ago. they, you know, these these aren't something the city is just now learning about. We've been sitting on these items for a number of months before bringing them to you. Um because we wanted to the the problems that we had with our main lift station a couple months ago. Now,

we wanted to know what those total costs were going to be to repair the the pumps inside the main lift station so that we could withhold that amount of money from the next business item, the final payout. So these they didn't just now add anything. These numbers have been with the engineers and and some of the city staff for a while. We just like I said we are waiting to and we did finally learn what closer to what the final cost is on the on the main lift station. So that's why we're finally bringing it to you guys to move ahead. And so we're on the next item. I'll just speak to them all. We're withholding 80,000 from that final pay app. Um, which is still an overestimate uh for what it's cost that we have incurred with Muth and Midland pump and staff time and costs that we will incur to replace the two pumps in the main legislation.

Are we getting that done now? The replacing the pumps. We're ordering them. Yeah, we because what's going to happen is is first rate we're going to withhold this money from the final payout. First rate is still going to turn around and submit all that information to their insurance company and once their insurance company pays will release the rest of this final payout. I would still like to know why the $15,000. Why? Just because of what's things in the past just came and it really wasn't ours. Maybe not just this project but other projects, but I would still like to know. Sure.

What transpired because of the 15 for the $15,000? If you want to hold item two, I guess I'll table both of them. Otherwise, if you want to pay item two, I'll table item one. Pay item two motion. Item two is actually get money back though, right? Yeah, it's still in that savings. So, I'll just table the whole thing until we know. Okay. Okay.

So, make that motion on the next three items. They're all related. Yeah, they're all be quick trump project EF and G. Okay. Do you want to table all of the next three? We should do them in the separate motion. Okay. [snorts] So, you got a motion on E. Need a second. Do I need a You have a second. Okay. You want to call roll? Commissioners Carlson I. York. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Mayor Lstrom.

Okay. I um next item is Beaver Creek Trunk Sewer Project payout 12 and this is the final payment. Um we'll table that also. Do we have to hold that one up? No, we I I don't see any reason why we can't motion to approve. Okay, we have a motion to approve. Do we have a second? I'll second. Okay. Commissioners York. Hi Garbers. Hi Carlson. Hi. Marilyn Strom. Hi.

And then the final one is the Beaver Creek Trunk Sewer Project construction acceptance. Um submitted the construction acceptance after it was inspected. Um this is a final overall for the project by the engineer and the city. As you know, after the the first walkthrough, there were changes that needed to be made to um the mandril testing and didn't pass. So, they they [snorts] modified some of the the pipes and they subsequently passed the mandrel testing. So, this would begin your warranty period. What is the warranty? Oh gosh, I don't know in front of me. It's usually

not indefinite or anything. a [laughter] couple of years when just these bills too that I receive if you go back to e table and you mentioned the moose and all these other ones I just the additional hours were getting build by JSA I want that to be part of those going back after those bills okay right because we're paying JSA to fix a issue that they started. I just want these bills go through ISG also went through the walkth through gentlemen know that

I forgot any bills from that on anything related to their screw up as I would so do we need to table G because we tabled E probably shouldn't accept the final if we still have questions on something that's not appropriate [snorts] I would think so we're going to start paying go ahead and warranty on something that we're not finalized on. Correct. It's a motion to table item G. Okay. Second. We have a motion to second you call roll. Commissioners Garver. Hi. Carlson. I York. Hi. Mayor Lstrom. Hi.

Next on the agenda is airport um lot lease transfer. Um city attorney prepared an assignment assignment of lease and lease agreement from Philip Wulman to Steve Kaine. Motion is required to approve the agreement and authorize the my signature on this lease. Motion table for further.

You want to table this item? Paul and I had had a a meeting, Commissioner Garver and I had had a meeting with um KJ and one of the things that they recommended we do is try to look at our leases and make sure that that we have escalating clauses in them and everything and the only opportunity we really ever get to do that is during a transfer of a lease. Okay. Um so rather than treating this as an automatic transfer, we take a chance and and look at it, make sure that it's we're still sitting in a good position. Mor [clears throat] you got a question on this question? Not really.

We're just doing a lease transfer from existing lease because they sold the building. You're going to stand by the mic. Oh yeah, because Phil sold his bill his anchor to Steve Kane. Steve [clears throat] just transfers the lease to to Steve from Mr. understand at least like all all of them they all escalate 4% a year they're all like identical as far as what Andrew and I have been talking to KJ and one of the things they brought up is how do I want to put it that you don't automatically just transfer the lease

right they our question to them was I mean I don't want to get into our what we've been into but is how is the airport going to continue being profitable or get to be profitable and the lease of the building was one of the things that got brought up. So we the reason I wouldn't table this is that we can have further discussions with KJ before we do this and then we wish we wouldn't have done it. Did I state that pretty good?

Yeah. And you know to the Lincoln County has upped their their leases and ours aren't necessarily structured similarly in the same way from 15 cents a square foot to 40 cents a square.

Our leases expire at the same time and that's when you know we need to do redo everything. But that's what I'm thinking. This I I tell you that if it was a complete new a new structure, I think that would be the time to do it myself. Just if you hadn't sold it, it would still be going on as as now.

We just want to we want to make sure our eyes are dot and tees are crossed. But I wish you would Did we have a motion in a second on that? Motion with a second to table this second. Pardon? Second. Okay. Commissioners Carlson I. York. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Marilynstrom. I.

Next is the Maguire contract. Um Magguire Iron has submitted a contract for the disinfection and cleanout of the water tower. Um, this is a 10-year contract with the service being performed [snorts] um every other year for the cost of $3,850 when the service is performed. So, motion is made to approve. And one correction from what we wrote on here, it's we already do have this contract on the water tower. This is for the groundwater reservoir

which um very much needs the same type of attention and care. Um and we do know that it it needs some TLC. So, um, this way, you know, even if the the actual cost for the project, if we're going to do a one-off next year on the on the groundwater reservoir could be 10 grand, but we're only going to be build by this for this contractual amount. Okay. So, it says every other year.

It's whenever the work gets done. So if the we're going to we want it done in 26 and if they decide that it's in need of more frequent care then we'll pay more frequently and we can also end it at any time. So if the groundwater reservoir a few years in is determined needs to be replaced for some reason or out of this without so it's this amount of money per time they come. Yeah. [snorts] motion on second. Need a second. You need a second. Yep. I'll second. Okay. Want to call roll. Commissioners York. Hi. Garbers. I. Carlson. Hi. Mayor Lindstöm.

I. The last item on the agenda is for a dads for basketball fundraiser. Um they submitted a boys and girls high school basketball raffle request. Tickets will be sold from November 2025 to March 2026 and are $50 a ticket. Um, tickets are sold for the chance to win a 2026 club car tempo with an additional $500 do dollars towards upgrades. 300 tickets will be sold and the winner will be drawn at random. So, [cough] I need to pull this. This is state required motion. Do a second.

Can I say something? Do I have to wait till we vote? Nor just wait. You make a second and then you can discuss whatever you want to say. I'll second. Okay. What?

Um, [laughter] so um I heard about this after the fact and [snorts] then I heard that um was being stated that the city was being complicated with this. Um, but I want everyone to know that a raffle is required to be approved by the city from the state under the department of revenue. And if anyone in the city is selling raffle tickets without that approval, that person can be charged with a class 2 misdemeanor. So, the city is not being complicated. We are really trying to protect you from being charged with uh with gambling.

Um so just be aware that if you want to have a raffle, just bring it to us. We'll get it approved. Um because we really we don't want our citizens in trouble. We don't want to be in trouble. So Department of Revenue will come down hard. So, just make sure if you're going to have a raffle, you're going to sell tickets, you're going to um gamble in the city, just make sure you come to city hall, get the appropriate paperwork done. Um because we'll glad to do that. We're glad to help you with it. So, simple turnaround. Approval is never more than two weeks away. We're not Yeah. We're not trying to make it hard to raise money, right? It would help that way there wasn't a fake one going around. Yeah.

Otherwise, we're required to perform this by the state of South Dakota. Yeah. So motion she second. Yep. Call the roll. Commissioners Garbers. Hi. Carlson I. York. Hi. Mayor Lstrom. Hi. Okay. That concludes what we had on the agenda. Um do commissioner dialogue before we go into executive session. Chris, do you have anything?

No, I do not have anything. Do you have anything you'd like to say today?

I don't think I have anything in mind other than uh thank you all for being here for being part of our our business. We appreciate having citizens here so they can see the see all the nitty-gritty stuff. So appreciate you all being here and online. Paul um Snow removal pushing. I've got calls calls about what is legal and maybe this is a Sarah question and she seems to know is pushing across the street is it legal? Nope.

What are we doing? If it's not, what are we doing to stop people from doing it?

We reach out to commercial people. Um because usually it's a commercial. Somebody has been hired either at a business or a private home that and the commercial person is they're the ones usually doing it. So we we reach out to them and ask them to go by ordinance. And usually what that means is that they need to haul the snow out. you know, they're they're they're adding their snow either to a pile in a city parking lot or worst case scenario, they're adding it to a wind row in the middle of the street or they push it across the street and dump it in a neighbor's boulevard, which means there's less room in that boulevard for our plows to put snow in the future. So, you know, we don't have to that rule just to be difficult. It's almost every city county government has the same rule. But yeah, we we we just reach out directly to to the commercial hall or commercial operator and ask them to

I told the person I would say their names, but so I'll just use me. I'm pushing across an angel lane to the other side. Sure. What am I supposed to get? Warning ticket. What are what are we going to do to satisfy these people that called and to let the people know that they're doing it? Because it's not commercial. I'm not saying not commercial. People are doing it, but every day Joe blows are doing it also. Sure. So, how are we going to get this across? Don't do it anymore. Sure. Well, we could try to just

blast it out between social media and even throw something in the newspaper. Um, we actually haven't received a complaint directly at city hall. These are things that our operators have noticed when they're out and about. Um, either after the fact or sometimes they see it happening. Um, they don't address it when they see it because they prefer to just stay in their pile and keep going and but they'll make note of it and they'll let us know, let me let myself know and um like said then we reach out. But yeah, we actually, you know, in the case of neighbor on neighbor kind of thing, we haven't had anybody reach out to us. If they do, then we reach directly out to the neighbor and explain why it's again why there's a rule against it to be a good neighbor. Just please find a spot in your own property to to remove your snow.

I have had one neighbor one in a neighborhood reach out and say they were doing that. So, and I said it is illegal, but the last time we had big snow, remember we did give out a ticket for somebody pushing their snow into off their own property. Yeah. I mean, by all means, I'd rather just a friendly. Yeah. But this was huge. How do we again get it out so we don't get these because [snorts] not [clears throat] everybody thinks about pushing snow and which way the wind's normally at them. That too. And some of the snow is going to where a northwest wind's going to create a bigger problem. Yep.

I just I guess I'm the commissioner that got the call, so I'm asking how we can friendly resolve it. Yeah. Since it's not legal. Yeah. I I don't think our snow like pamp snow removal pamphlet addresses that particular issue, but um but if somebody calls and if you're getting I would give city hall the names, they could call the person that's doing it and say you can't do this anymore. Good. That's easy solution there. And we always try to start off with just an explanation. I'm going to guess a lot of people didn't even think about it. They'll drive out the country and they're all doing it out the country too. Yep. And you can see the problem it causes for those county plants too

because not I mean one of the people that called was not only did they push it across they didn't clean up their little wind rows. So then you got people y it's annoying and frustrating when our guys have worked hard to clean it first time. That's all I got. That's all you got? Um do you have anything Andrew?

I do not. Um, I just want to tell everyone um, have a happy holiday from us because we won't be meeting now until January unless we have a special meeting that gets called. So, um, now we would I would like to call for an executive session South Dakota codified law 1-25-2 for a contract negotiation. We need a motion. Motion. Second. Call roll. Commissioners Carlson. I York. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Mayor L. Hi. [snorts]

Thank you. Thank you all for coming. I was cut. Um, that's