City Commission - Regular Meeting

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Oh, it is. We'll call the meeting to order. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Are there any additions or corrections to the consent calendar? So move. Second call. Commissioners Garver. I York. Hi Carlson. Hi Mayor Lstrom.

Hi. Are there any visitors to be heard tonight on something issue that is not on the agenda?

No. Okay. We'll move on to we have old business. Um we tabled a couple items last meeting. Um the Beaver Creek trunk sewer project for the change order number three. Um myin with JSA submitted a change order and for number three and this is the final change order for the project and contains two items. Item one is a result of a delay in permitting for in permitting from Burlington Northern and Wilson and Company which resulted in an extra mobilization for the boring contractor and um what is the other item two is a change order in the balancing of the estimated bid quantities for the final as constructed qual quantities and you is there issue anything that you want to bring up Um my if you don't mind you come forward.

Guess I asked to have it tabled last time because I was wondering the amount that we had to pay Berlin Northern or the additional amount. Can you explain why that happened and is it a city problem or was it somebody else's problem?

Sure. So um city needed to permit the work within the BNSF rightway which the permit itself took 15 months or so before construction. So it was a it was a process. Uh once the permit was in place um vernf um they basically indicated that the city needs to work with Wilson and company which is their subconsultant for professional flagging services. So the gentlemen or ladies and gentlemen that you know stand out make sure that uh the permits being followed and u all the contractors are staying out of the way of the trains um being so Wilson and company invoiced the city uh to the total of about $144,000 in total I believe was the final amount. Um so when um the contractor subcontractor Iowa trenchless uh came in they were they were doing the sanitary sewer boring. Um it was then determined that from Wilson and company that um all the money that u all the money that the city had paid Wilson and company went into a an account. uh it needed to be split into two accounts uh for one for the sanitary sewer side and one for the water side. So once the city found that out um the city paid that additional uh but Wilson and company required a 15-day notice u before or once funds were in place in the in their account they required a 15-day window. Um, so that that pushed out the Iowa trenchless for 15 days over two weeks. They had other commitments and they weren't allowed to stay on site. So they came back about six weeks later and that was that that was the additional mobilization,

demobilization, remobilization. So, and how that's where that all ended up, as I indicated, there was about 144,000 in BNSF or Wilson and Company fees. Um, all said and done after the fact. Um, about 71 of that was reimbursed. About 71 came back to the city. Um, and then BNSF also had flaggers out there, their own flaggers to the tune of and they had invoiced the city about 76,000. uh we you know we in the city argued that um for a variety of reasons and the actual invoice went from 76,000 down to about 12,000 so there was took quite a bit of work back and forth between you know us and the city and BNSF and Wilson and company but um I think everything is squared away but the additional mobilization was since there was the city basically had money in one lump sum money in one account. Wilson and company need it in two account in two separate accounts and that and that discrepancy right there push it um made a delay of 15 days. So why did it go to one account begin with I guess if they needed to. Yeah. And that I can't answer answer why it was. U the city received I think oh multiple invoices up to that total of 144,000 and just paid you know paid the invoices. I guess it's my understanding. What I got out of you and correct me if I'm wrong is the 15-day window is because it wasn't the money. The other half wasn't where it was supposed to be.

Right. Correct. That's why is why wasn't it who was who who the bill was paid so we thought that the it was good for the contract for the boring company to be in. That's that was my assumption as well and they just failed to communicate with you about where to put the money. We paid them we wrote them a check for the permits. So what they did with it I can't that's where I'm getting is I don't know where the city where did the city go wrong

if it's the city's fault where did the city go wrong I don't feel like it is Listen I don't know feel like it is the city's problem so why is the city have to pay another bill that's where I'm at and I'm not sure if it's well it was out of the control of the contractor as Well,

so this I go back to what I said a year ago, two years ago. We pay this money so we don't have we don't have to worry about it. If Kyle paid you like he was supposed to pay it, I think the city's off the hook. I think it's somebody else. I don't know what everybody else thinks. So, was First Rate the First Rate was the general? First rate was the overall general. Correct. So, was First Rate the one responsible for calling in Iowa, the subcontractor? Yes. Yep. So, I guess, but at the time when they called them in, they weren't aware of the the permitting.

That's why we don't act as the general contractor because we don't have the expertise. So if we let somebody else speak up, we pay somebody who has the expertise to make those decisions.

So with the um we had talked about that a little bit at the beginning um of putting the permitting on the contractor. Um couple reasons why we didn't do that is mainly for the for that reimbursement. Uh if we would have left the contract or the permitting with the with the contractor, they would have paid that total in those total invoices and the city wouldn't receive they would invoice the contractor would have built that into their bid and then you wouldn't receive you wouldn't get that um that um rebate back or not rebate rebate but overpayment back. So that's one reason to keep it to keep doing the permits internally.

But why I'm here tonight is the reason we're paying more because these people couldn't be here in 15 days because they had another job to do and that's why we had to pay extra.

Number one, that's why we have an engineer that takes care of it. And two, the engineer hires the general contractor. So our hands are out of it. Now our hands are back in it because they're ask somebody's asking for more money. So the city um one thing the engineer doesn't hire the general contractor. That's the city and the contractor are contracted together. Um and I can see your I can see your point as well. I mean, did did first rate check with you guys about whether or not the everything was in line with the railroad before bringing it in the sub. From our understanding the you know the city had made made that payment and we got u um indication from Wilson and company that they were scheduled the end of June and that's when um that's when Iowa Tarantulas came in to do the uh to do that work. I guess the whole thing whose responsibility is telling two different accounts and why didn't we know that?

That's why it's not our Kyle. What I'm hearing is Kyle paid what he was told to instructed to pay. So I don't again I'm repeating myself but I don't know why it's falling back on the city. The lack of communication is not on our behalf. It's why we pay these monies to so we we're not involved in it. say you is is Wilson the one who should have told us that needs to be two separate accounts since they were doing the work.

I mean it sounds like first rate jumped the gun calling in the subcontractor. It sounds like the railroad failed to communicate and we all know the railroad's not easy to work with. Again, that's why we hired somebody else to take care of it. I'm not saying we're done with discussion, but I would make a motion not to pay it. Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? I think that just makes sense. I second. Okay. Any other discussion to to to not pay the second mobilization? Correct. Basically, the motion is deny change order number two or three.

Three in its entirety, which is the mobilization and the net quality changes. You want then I'm assuming my we're going to have they'll have to come up with another change order for the net quantities and have to figure the other pull that I'll pull that item off. Okay. Did Did you get that? I got a motion to second to deny. Okay. Construction change order three. Call roll. Commissioners York. Hi, Carlson. Hi, Garver. Hi, Mayor Lstrom. Hi.

Okay, the next item is also uh was tabled. It's the um Beaver Creek trunk sewer project construction acceptance and this is final overall acceptance of the project by the city by the engineer and the city. You can't you can't move forward on that until right until you have the final change order and the final payout approved. Then the next step is to so I need a motion to table this also. Table or deny you want to table table second. We have a motion second. Oh okay. We have a second roll.

Commissioner Scarlson. Hi, Garver. Hi, York. Hi, Mayor Lu. Hi. Okay, thanks Byron. Um, next is the airport lease lot lease transfer. We tabled this from the last meeting. Um, city attorney's office prepared an assignment of lease and lease agreement. And did we hear anything on that? We did. So, I heard back from Jerry. So, I would ask you to offer a one-year lease at the current rate of 11 85 cents a square foot to Steve King. I'll make that motion.

Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? Can I um verify? So, we have the assignment of lease and then the new lease. Are we approving the assignment? No. So, not approving the assignment, just the new lease. Yeah, a new lease for one year. For to whom? To Steve Kane. But don't we need to reassign from durable to Steve Kane in order for a lease to approve? No, because the are we going to terminate? We'll have to terminate. Yeah, with the current lease holder. So, it would be need to terminate and then not do the assignment but then do a new lease. Right. Okay. Because we haven't drafted a termination. So,

no. Yeah. Well, if you would go this direction, then I'll ask you Freeberg to draw it up. So, I think the motion would need to be because you don't want to you don't want the assignment, but you want the lease with changes plus termination. Yeah. Termination. The termination of the old lease with a one-year lease agreement for the new 10 new tenant. Yeah. I'll make that one motion. Okay. I'll second that. Okay, we have a second. Um, roll. Commissioners Garver. I York. Hi. Carlson. Hi. Lstro.

Hi. Okay, now we'll move on to new business. Um, we have community pool um policy handbook and Kate sir um created a pool policy handbook for us to look at. And you want to come forward or Sure.

Very nice. So, do you have any questions for Kay or do you want to This has been our policies. Yep. Yep. It's just uh formally written and I Yeah, just formalized it. But yeah, these are policies that we've been following for for for a couple decades if not longer. So this is a new document that's never been in place before. Yes. This this particular one. I think there was probably one before. I guess I can't speak on that note. It's modeled after Red Cross kind of

stand. Yep. Swimming lessons specifically for Red Cross. Other policies have been implemented and refined on behalf of Holly and myself. um just from our experience at the pool. So, got a couple questions that people have sent to me. So, I'm just going to ask him if you could address those. If you have a medical issue on a child of a known medical issue, how would you handle that?

Well, our lifeguards are certified and they're trained in those areas. And so, we actually also on our swimming lesson, and I'm speaking specifically for swimming lessons, um I'm assuming that's where that question came from. Um, so we have that form filled out. For example, we've had a kid with a severe peanut allergy. And so with that, we were well aware of that. We took the precautions that we needed to and if anything were to happen, we just kind of followed that plan per the parent request. Um, now there's other things that could obviously happen um during swimming lessons. And so I can just our lifeguards are certified so they take those steps to do what they need to do. start with a pen all like you guys can administer an epipin like

I I believe the lifeguards would be able to yeah we've never had that in our care nobody's had that now we had a diabetic situation this summer um whereas the that guardian is the one that was there and admitter administered all of that but we knew the signs to look for and to go get the parent when they when they needed to have that administered. So, do we keep the EpiPen up there? Uh, I don't think we do. No. Yeah. Okay. And I am an allergy parent, too. So, I have I mean, I carry not the pen wherever. So, Gotcha. Yeah. So, like with that being allergy kid, did did they leave behind an F? They didn't, actually. Okay. Surprising.

Just made you aware of it. I mean, even they were given dietary restrictions for the parent requests which were followed. So, Gotcha. case by case kind of just curious. Yeah, shame. Probably shame on me because I haven't been up there, but I know where the pool is. Where do these parents or guardians or whoever they are, where do they have to be from where the pool is actually at?

Um, so I mean outside of the fence is where it is. So, you've probably seen the parameter of that. And, um, depending on the level and where the kid is at is where you can see. Most of our levels you can see right from the fence. So, and I've actually been on the outside of the fence of the new pool cuz I was just curious what that would look like and it it's very visible. So, and my other one is procedures. If you get a Yeah. If my granddaughter Yeah. freezes up and wants grandma or grandfather or what's your procedure? And that happens often, right? I mean, they're young kids, so there's going to be kids that are very nervous. So, we've done, it's again, case by case. We've had parents who come in and drop them off and then they exit. Um, we've had parents just have them meet have us meet them at the door and they go, um, I'm going to say in my personal experience, every time there's been that separation, there's been more progress on the kids' part because they build that trust with that lifeguard and instead of relying on the parent um, and their safety, which I get. I'm a parent, so I understand that. my kid has been in that position before, but um we're not there's it's case by case, but typically it's always been best in my experience when there's that separation. So, but yeah, does that answer your question? Sorry, I was kind of rambling on a little bit.

Just one step further. Okay, this kid doesn't this child doesn't calm down. You're going to ask the parent to just take them and take them home and try tomorrow or what's reassess the situation. is are they ready for lessons? Are they ready to be there? Um, you know, we've it's it's I understand you got a job to do, too. So, just ask.

Yeah. I just I'm trying to answer in a way, you know, when we've had group lessons and this is years ago. This is like when I was a teenager, we had a parent that sat there for maybe 5 10 minutes and then they slowly inched away and went somewhere else and then they slowly got um and that was a day thing and then it just got better. So it all just kind of depends on that. So we assess it with a parent as best as we can. We try. And I I did have a grandson that was now he swimmed like a fish, but he went to a pool in Sou Falls to where they left the clothes on. Yep. You probably know what I'm talking about.

I mean, as a grandpa, it was very hard when he's screaming up and down, "Papa saved me. Papa saved me." And I couldn't say I mean I know he wasn't going to drown but to him he thought he was going to. So I understand. Mhm. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard as a parent. It's hard as the person taking care of that child. You know, I've had those when I taught swimming lessons. And it's it's all just a progress. And I really believe that having that separation really allows for that trust to be built and that relationship to be built between the two. So I think you nailed it right there. We have to have trust in our lifeguards and our team that you guys have built. Yeah.

As civilians and as residents of Canton, we have to trust that. Right. Absolutely. And it's hard, but it is. I think it's important. True. I think I can answer both those questions in my one child. Um I have a child with medical disability. I also have a ch that same child is also autistic. And when we started swimming lessons, we did we went to a specialized swimming lessons. Sure.

And I can tell you that the first few times were torture for both of us and and the woman trying to teach him because he would literally try to drown her as he's frantically pulling away. And I watched from another room because what he would do the first the first time when I went in there and of course I'm like and him seeing my anxiety of me like oh my gosh that made him more anxious and he kept looking to me instead of to the person trying to teach him. So then I separated myself and it took four, five, six classes for him to actually like relax into the water and now he he's goes to the pool, swims on his own. I don't even I don't even bother with it anymore.

Um, but that's kind of where he needs to learn to trust people there. He needs to learn to trust the water and he needs to learn to trust himself. So I I think it's great when you said that you do a case by case basis. I think that's exactly what needs to happen is I don't think we need to have what ifs, you know, you could have an 80page policy on well what if this person has this and what if this person has that, what if this person has this. Um I think it I think as long as the practice is to go about a case by case basis, talk with the parent, learn the child's needs, and then try to figure out how to make it work. And like you said, you know, the child is so anxious that it won't happen, then maybe they're just not ready. Right.

And Commissioner, you you shared with me that those classes were actually free. Is that right? Yeah. The ones that um I took my son to was through uh Sanford and Special Olympics and they have a combined group effort to have um individual swimming lessons for those complex needs. Okay. So, yeah. So I guess a question for you Sarah while you're talking were you could you have been in there or they were they told you to leave?

Um I guess I I could have been in there but I realized very quickly that me being in there created the problem. Um and when I will say when I was a kid growing up I mean I went I grew up in Pier and we had some lessons in pier the same deal in pier. parents went to the other room and watched. They actually was like above and they watched from up there while we went to swimming lessons. And I mean that's been the practice for 50 years. I mean I'm not 50, you know, not quite but how old are you? Prior to my time it was also still that practice.

Yeah. And I took my kids to Safe Splash Swim School. I don't know if you guys have heard of that in Sou Falls. That's where I took my children. They're behind glass. And actually, you don't even get to bring them in. They take them in. So, yeah. Is that the one that has the infant where they where they drop them in a Not that one. There is an infant class, but no, not the throw them in. You want to talk about special? Yeah. Takes videos. Yeah. Frost. Yeah. Frost. Right. So,

um I just had a couple of um just grammatical ones. Oh, yeah. And I can I shared them with um with Andrew. It was just a couple of things that just made it more clear. Perfect. Um in a couple of just like three places and that was it. But um I think with those three edits, I would make a motion to approve what you've drafted. Thank you. Second. A motion and a second. You want to call roll? Oh, wait. Okay. Uh, commissioners York. Hi. Carlson, hi. Garbers. Hi. Hi. Thanks, Kate. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Get the motion down. Correct.

Okay. Next on the agenda is um a park improvement at the Westside Ball Diamond. It isn't Darren, it's Colby. I am stepping in for Darren and Thad that had a little basketball rescheduling to their no point. Uh basically city zoning and planning approved last week and we're here to get final approval so they can get going and get something inside. Yeah. Any improvements on city land needs to be approved by the city commission as well as the planning and zoning. So yes, it did pass that. So now it's our turn.

Just a reminder, this doesn't negate the fact they still obtain a building permit through the normal process. This is just us saying this is saying that they can do that. They want to put a roof over where it's existing pretty much what it be on the planning zone and that's what they want to do. I'd make a motion to approve. Okay. We have a motion and second call. Commissioner Scarlson. Hi. Barbers. Hi. York. Hi. May Lro. Hi. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Next is a Highway 18 culvert replacement. Um Justin, do you want to talk about that? Um you have pre quotes.

Yep. So, real quick, this was a project identified uh back when flooding occurred in 2024. Uh so, this was identified with some that FEMA funding. So, worked with Leic and Dennis to get some quotes for it to get this project completed. Uh did reach out to five contractors, received three quotes back. Uh two of those were very close but that low bid was 605 uh dirt works uh reviewed their bid had everything included that would be looking forward to complete the project would recommend them as low co uh talked they understand scope of the project they went out visited the site so should be all prepped they will have the work completed by February which was the original uh grant deadline too so pending the good weather that we continue to have they'll be able to go in there knock it out pretty quick so

if there is any issues we did still get a FEMA extension till July.

Motion to approve. Have a motion. Do I have a second? I'll second. Okay. Cover. Commissioners Garver. Hi. York. Hi. Carlson. Hi. Mayor Ler. Hi. Thanks, Justin. Next in the agenda is the garbage hauler license renewals for the year. Um, we received applications from Herm Sanitation, Novc Sanitary, Novak Sanitary, and AOK Sanitary um for the renewals of the garbage hauler licenses. The applications are in order and the fees have been paid.

Motion motion. Do you have a second? Second. Okay. Call RO. Commissioners York. Hi, Carlson. Hi, Garver. Hi, Mayor. Hi. Next is the 2026 city commission appointments. Um, the city of Canton makes these appointments each year. Um, I'm recommending the following appointments. City attorney is Sam Nelson. City engineer is Justin Heim with ISG Engineers. Authorized planning and zoning official is Tiffany Vanderke and Andrew Petus. The platting authority and road authority is Andrew stealing that one from you. Huh? Stealing that one from you.

You to stole that from me, didn't you? I don't care. Um, and a motion is required to approve these appointments. Motion second. We have be your motion and a second. You want to call roll. Commissioner Scarlson. Hi. Garver. Hi. Hi. Lstrom.

Hi. Um, next is the 2026 official depositories. Um, the state law requires that each year in January we do this. Uh, that to name the official banks for the city, we have Farmer State Bank, First Bank of Trust, the South Dakota Public Funds Investment Trust, US Bank, SRF Loans, and Security Savings Bank. And this requires a motion and second. Motion. Do we have a second? Second. I just got one question. Sure. That third one, who is that? South Dakota Public Funds Investment Trust. Is that through our term loans?

No, it's through South Dakota Municipal basically started a a South Dakota law is very very strict on how we can invest our monies. So, they come up with this investment fund and basically what it's doing is it's paying um short-term seating rates for liquid money. So we're getting 3% 4% on our money instead of a half a percent or 1% if we had left it a savings account year. It was a back door to get the investment council to me, right? Is that that could have been part of it too? But I mean it was a way to take public funds and invest it and and basically generate more money. Isn't this what we did with pool funds? Yes. Yes. I'll second it. Okay. We have a motion to second. Yep.

Ready? Okay. Call roll. Commissioners Garver. I York. Hi Carlson. Hi Mayor Lstro. Hi. Next is the official newspaper for 2026 and that would be S Valley News. We have a motion. We have a second. Second. Motion. Second. You call roll. Commissioners York. I. Carlson. I. Garbers. Hi. Mayor Lstrom. Hi.

Next on the agenda is a city attorney contract. Um, we've received a proposed city attorney contract with Freeberg, Nelson, and ASK for miscellaneous attorney services for the 2025. Oh, this should be 2026 calendar year. A rate of 200 $200 per hour for attorneys time for services provided to the city and all other expenses associated with attorneys representation or expenses to the city. Motion and second is required for this contract. What is it currently? It's 175 I believe. Motion second. Motion in a second. You want to call roll?

Commissioner Scarlson. I'll abstain. Commissioner Garver. Hi. York. Hi. Mayor Lstrom. Hi. Next is the animal control services contract. Um the Sou Falls Humane Society submitted an agreement for services for animal control for 2026. Rates have been increased from 2025. Services from 8 to 5 increased from $65 to $75 per hour. And services from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. or 8:00 a.m. have increased from 90 to $120 per hour. Oh, so how are we doing that on the back side since we already okayed ours?

Pardon me. We already okayed our rates. Yeah. So, how are we adjusting this? We might have to go back and look at them. Yeah, we can revisit ours. We can feed. Yeah, I think we need to we go back and adjust our rates at any point in time. Yeah, we're just required to update them at least once a year. I don't care this, but bring them back that we can check ours next meeting. Good. Okay, that motion. Motion. Motion is second. You call roll. Commissioners Garver's I. York. Carlson. Hi. Mayor Lro. Hi.

Next is the 2026 fire department roster. Um, we provide workers with compensation insurance for any member on the volunteer fire department. Is required that all volunteers that city wishes to be covered by approved and put into official minutes. That also requires a motion in a second. Motion second. Motion a second. I'll call RO. Commissioners York. Hi. Carlson. Hi. Garbers. Hi. Mayor Lstrom.

Hi. Uh, next is a carnival guarantee. Um, the Chamber of Commerce is planning a 160th corn carnival for the weekend of August 8th and 9th. The carnival requires a deposit of $10,000 to secure the dates and a $40,000 payment minimum guarantee. So, pardon, a minimum payment. So if they were to come to town, they they finish counting their take before the weekend is out. And if they were to say only clear 35,000, then they would be asking for a check for pie. Okay.

Um I've worked with this carnival for about a decade. We um in Harrisburg after a number of years of having a proven track record, we were no longer doing a down payment um because they knew that there was going to be enough activity. So, it's common for them to when they're coming to a new town, smaller than most of the towns that that they do that they're going to ask for these types of guarantees. Um, we can act. One way we can mitigate, a couple ways we can mitigate these numbers and and and get at them is we can be aggressive with pre-sale tickets leading up to they'll they'll provide us with pre-sale tickets. We can sell them both through city hall and through local businesses that helps, you know, guarantee a certain amount of revenue to come in. And um like in Harrisburg, we we got to the point where our pre-sales were more than outpacing that deposit number. So that's when they just we got to the point where we were splitting profits. Um and

and that's what I was going to ask is so people are aware that that $10,000 goes towards that $40,000. Correct. Correct. Um and another way too is to seek out sponsors for the carnival itself from the business community. and we have had one um business that the city works with already step up and offer a $1,500 sponsorship. So, um with that in hand, I would spend the next few months along with Lisa. It's the chamber that's taking the lead on this, but obviously they don't have the the money to do this. So, um, but I I would I would hit the pavement with Lisa to go solicit sponsorships from local businesses to help

for sure that we can get that $40,000 number. Okay. So, it says $10,000 and a $40,000 deposit, but it's $10,000. Yeah. Sorry. It's it's a $10,000. Yeah. It's $10,000 payment deposit, $40,000 guarantee. So yeah, it's if they did no business, we'd still owe them 30. Is there I'm guessing I know my answer, but weather insurance or anything?

We can take out weather insurance on our own. We certainly can. Um I've had experience with that. We we we got rained out one year um up north, had insurance, called them up, had a check within a couple of weeks, and we were able to pay for the band and the carnival. I don't think it would be a bad thing to do. Yeah, I think that'd be a good thing to do. Can we table and find out? I I I'd like to get them there because they might book up. Yeah, they This is literally they had only two dates left for the whole year. So, I would like to lock them in for this date. Um the

guess I'm looking for I'm I'm looking for an additional event to go with the carnival so you can hit that uh threshold of of getting people to attend. So you just mentioned band. If you can bring something of that level and fill the park there, the Fox Park with I don't know where you're planning on having this carnival, but if we can have something in addition to the carnival, I don't see it being as hard to sell tickets because this wouldn't be during the time of the Canton. No, no, this isn't this is this is in August

years before you were born. Ken had a corn carnival and it was always in August before school started and they had numerous things. Um they'd have beauty pageantss. Sure. You know, Little Miss Canton and they hold that in conjunction. Um there was lots of other things, but I'm just showing my age here. So yeah, it it was it was called the corn carnival and there was cornstcks everywhere. It used to coincide with achievement days, too. Pardon? Used to coincide with achievement days. Yeah, we'll try I mean, we'll certainly try to line more stuff up. It's This is the weekend after Civil War days. Okay. Um

yeah, I think I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, lots of other you got to have more than like I don't want to see just the carnivals here then and then August 8th and 9th or something 15 miles north and so that's my next concern is what's going on and I think that's why we stopped doing the little carnival because nobody really showed up and during this time I would assume is I say events before that pardon there's a schedule there's a whole oh you want to come for is overse whatever you want to 12 week um there is the Saturday in the park that weekend the 24th 25th whatever in July that's where

which is the can and wheel and the car show and everything else the next weekend it's a big folk festival which brings a lot of people into town then the carnival and the civil war days and the school starts that's where I go with you there's going to be so many weekends in a row are we going to be able to draw enough crowd on that one weekend in between that there's Lots of other events in the area too that are going on. That's only my concern is it's going to be hard to pull people weekend after weekend after weekend to Canton for just the carnival because there is a very heavy busy schedule. It needs to be more. It needs to like a a dance or something. Van,

we can certainly add a van. It's going to be another expense. Of course it is. Yep. How about if we think outside the box and have a search for your talent? No, kind of a Sure. Open mic. I agree with Chris that you gota if you're going to drop your kids off at the carnival. What are you gonna do? I mean, I've been there before. Have a karaoke queen contest. Dan's got talent. And you know, we're hoping. Yeah, we did Fear Factor one time. We brought a lot of people in the what? Fear Factor. We did that in Iowa, like fear factor thing of having all these different contests they have to do, eat weird stuff.

Oh, eat bugs and stuff. Well, it it brings people to I mean, just having a contest. It does. Especially having all that. So, but but in order to um obtain and we need to do this now to keep that to get them so we don't lose if we if we decide this isn't going to work out is $10,000 non-refundable. It'll work. I don't know when the last time you is that you've been a wah days, but this is the same carnival also that day utilizes a lot. Me too.

So then we just we just need to focus on making sure we doublesided. Yeah, we're going to have to put some money behind publicizing it because that's what I've always felt is our biggest downfall in Canton is nobody knows about it. We we we try to reach the 3,000 people here, but we need to get we put signs in doorways and that's about as far as you got your phone. When's the Sue Empire Fair? Same weekend. Same weekend. Yeah. But that's I don't know that too many people feel comfortable dropping their kids off at the Sue Empire Fair. It's getting rough. They can't. I don't know. Yeah, you can't. They have to have an adult if they're under a certain age, right?

So, we almost thought there was only one other weekend available. We thought the juxiposition of having a safe small town carnival while that was going on was almost just as good as anything. That's a Friday, Saturday. I dig it. So, Empire is all No. Oh, this Yeah. Um, yeah. And they'll actually end up coming in typically on Tuesday, Wednesday, set up for a few days, tearing down all day Sunday. It's actually a Saturday, Sunday. Oh, it is Saturday, Sunday. Really? So, they're going to go late into Sunday night.

It'll probably just be Saturday night. Sunday afternoon. Sunday until like two or something. Guess we ain't going to know if we don't try it. True. I think we definitely I guess I'll make a motion to accept with checking in on rain insurance. Okay. Have a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second. Okay. Call roll. Uh commissioners Carlson. I bar. York. I l. Okay. That concludes our agenda. Um, commissioner dialogue. Chris, do you have anything? I do not tonight.

Okay. Sarah, I don't think so. Paul, no. Let's see. Do I have anything? I can't think of anything either. That time of the year. What do you have? Um, we're gonna Justin, I don't know if you want to come up a little detail on the community center first meeting will be coming up. Okay. Yeah. Postcards will be going out to everybody in town.

What is it? The 20th. Next commission meeting's on Tuesday, not Monday, just with the holiday there. So, we're going to do our first community engagement session uh 4:30 to 6:30 before then. We're going to get postcards that we'll send out to all residents. Andrew and I have been coordinating on that. Uh this will be the first of uh three series um event. So, that first one will just be high level just get ideas, feedback on amenities uh and location for the community center. Then we'll just slowly pair it down. Um at the third meeting, we'll be sharing some floor plans, uh some renderings, and some estimated costs just to hone in what that project actually looks like. So definitely encourage you guys to be there, public to be there, uh provide input. Uh with those postcards, there will be a link that goes to a project website as well. So even if you can't uh make it to the Inerson event, you'll be able to see all the boards, add your comments on the uh on the website, too. So, uh, the hope is to get as much input as we can just to make sure that this project aligns with what the community wants.

So, the well, I'll plan on being there, but and I'd encourage you guys to to be there, but it's more for us to be just additional ears. ISG will do the facilitation and and actually recording that input and refining it, but for us to also have a presence there. Um, and we'll we'll promote it once the postcard's out or even before the postcard's out, we'll be promoting on Facebook and and through our website and the app and all that kind of stuff, too. Where where? Pardon me. Here. Yeah.

If Howard is it for you? I mean, not negative, but snowstorm. We can change that date. Yeah, we'll uh we'll figure something out. So, um, even though the postcards are out, well, well, knock and wood that, uh, the weather stays beautiful like this. Um, but I would almost anticipate to if you guys are going to still hold your commission meeting, we would still hold it. Um, I do have one staff member coming from out of town, but most staff members will be out of Sou Falls here. Uh, so be a short drive down here. Um, and then we'll just kind of gauge what that what that input looks like. If we don't feel like we got enough input there, we can hold another event. Uh, like I said, don't don't want to rush it. Make sure we get get that good input. So,

jinxed it. Yeah. Overthink sometimes. That's such a good or do we need to? Yeah, we do. Okay. Um, we're going to have an executive session under South Dakota codified law 1-25-2. Motion to move into motion. Second. Second. Call. Commissioners Garver. Hi. B York. Hi. Carlson. Hi. Hi. Thank you everybody for coming. 50 to 48 right now. What is it?

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