City Council - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, September 2, 2026

The City Council discussed the Urban Growth Boundary expansion, providing direction on parkland and residential areas, and approved several significant infrastructure projects totaling nearly $4 million. They also advanced contracts for the Swim Center remodel and extended the Interim City Administrator's employment agreement.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Canby, OR
Meeting Date
September 2, 2026

Transcript

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2:18 – 2:57Brian Hodson

Good evening, Camby. Welcome to September 2nd, 2026 work session and council meeting. We are having a work session this evening. Tonight's work session is to discuss recent developments in the urban growth boundary expansion, conversation and planning. And I wanna thank our city staff and our consultants for some tremendous work on this and as well as, gosh, so many people at different community meetings and all those things which we'll go over and then the tactical committee and their hard work on this as well. So Randy, are you leading this off tonight or are we just going straight to Don?

2:57Speaker 6

I think in the interest of time, we'll just go Mr. Mayor, council, just bring them up.

3:02 – 3:13Brian Hodson

Perfect. Don, if you would, maybe we can get done like 6.45, 6.50, so we have time to... That is the goal.

3:13Speaker 8

We're going to try to go through these quickly.

3:17 – 3:48Speaker 6

One thing I did forget, Don, is that you'll notice in the PowerPoint slide, we did make a couple... adjustments to the slides based on some feedback and reminders of where we're at in this process. We're not zoning or planning for uses and that comes later. But we did wanna highlight that we are thinking about some of those things when it comes to industrial park and housing. But Don's gonna hit on all of that, so.

3:48 – 8:57Speaker 8

I just want to hit that at the top. Thank you, Randy. So I'm going to go ahead and launch in. Good evening, Mayor and Council Members. As Randy was mentioning, I'm just going to start out with some high-level comments. Steve Faust from 3J Consulting will be leading us through the presentation, but I just wanted to recognize what Randy was mentioning. This is focused on the urban growth boundary, which I'm going to call Phase 1 of the process, which is about sizing the urban growth boundary. And that really is... Targeted for us going to September 16th urban growth boundary hearing So a lot of this tonight is kind of pre-emptive for that hearing that we're going to be having on the 16th Phase two is the concept planning and that's to deal with the development the development review and approval of where land designations will occur The City Council will have a hearing on the concept planning, and that will be next year. The next community summit for the concept planning is going to be October 20. It cuts forth in the Town Hall again. And slide number 28, just to show what Randy was mentioning has been added in the PowerPoint, which addresses the potential for a sports complex in the industrial area to be included with the concept planning. And one of the concept plans will have the sports complex in that area will be noted as such in one of the concept plans. And that's kind of premised on both the comments we received during the concept planning input, as well as economic opportunity analysis, talks about the potential for that, as well as other conversations we've had with council. So leading off with that, I'm going to dive right into the staff report findings, kind of go through those quickly. You'll be hearing these again on September 16, but just essentially there's a lot of consistency with what we've done to date on our economic opportunity analysis and housing needs analysis. we have been working with the state government to address housing employment and park lands Oregon state way planning goal consistency and comprehensive plan consistency that we have adopted recently and goal 14 urbanization in particular and the So what we're doing with the urban growth boundary is consistent with all those. There's been significant community involvement over the last three years. A lot of public meetings, tabling groups, lots of notifications, online engagement tools. We had a Spanish-speaking only. We had several meetings. We had one that was Spanish only for a meeting on the comprehensive plan. Interactive mapping exercises were also included, and the project advisory committee was very helpful along the way, which comprised of leaders and business owners and other stakeholders. We had three listening sessions. These are with the property owners in the specific area of the proposed urban growth boundary. One was in November 2023, one was in June 2024, and one was in June 2026. So we've had fairly robust attendance for this, and for the September 16th hearing, we sent out a postcard to all of those people that are in the area that is planned to be brought into the urban growth boundary and we also did a large email blast that just went out this evening. So there's plenty of notification that's happened in this process and a lot of discussions around that. we have a pre-application meeting with the county on September 10. We are going through their process after we go through the city council review process. There is some urgency to getting through this process given the sequential urban growth boundary process that we're in and some state legislative rule changes that happened where we thought we had maybe additional time based on our sequential urban growth boundary process and we have found out through the Department of Justice in Oregon that we don't have additional time and so there's this anticipation that if we don't complete everything by the end of the year that we would have to repeat the housing needs analysis and we'd end up with less residential acreage because the population has not Increased at the rate that it was anticipated previously so there's a bit of push on this as well from that perspective that doesn't mean we rush through this process, but just to recognize that There's also that lens as well So I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to Steve for the rest of this.

8:58 – 9:15Speaker 6

Let's just, Mayor, if we could pause there if there's any questions. Don, nice job setting it up. There's the schedule, the dates we have to hit. Any questions of Don before we dive into the next 45 minutes? No. Okay. Just wanted to check. Thank you.

9:15 – 10:42Speaker 15

all right good evening everyone good to see you all again some of these slides will look familiar from the last time we talked but things have changed slightly since we met last this is just a reminder that we've been working on this project for quite some time as don said had a project advisory committee meetings, technical meetings, and summits along the way. What we'll use, if you recall, the residential land need based on primarily the documents that Don mentioned. The residential land need is up to 102.5 acres. The 73.1 acres is required. That has to be part of our of the city's expansion. Parks, through a long process that Don can speak to if anyone has questions, but I know you're familiar with as well, identified up to 25.7 acres for parks. And then there's a new safe harbor in the new rules that go into effect next year, where cities expanding for residential purposes can add 5% for neighborhood serving commercial to serve those residential areas. This is not a safe harbor for Canby. This is more of a request. It would be a request if the city wants to include this. So it wouldn't be a safe harbor like it will be in the future. It would be a request. And then we have the 439.2 acres of employment, which is almost entirely industrial.

10:50 – 11:02Speaker 8

And just on that last slide, so the sports complex piece of this, which we'll get to slide 28 on, would be assumed to be in the employment area. So not to lose track of that, so just wanted to add that.

11:04 – 11:45Speaker 15

All right, just a few reminders. Property owners that are included in the UGB expansion are not required to annex into the city or develop their property. Those properties also will not see a change in property taxes until annexation occurs. As Don's mentioned, this UGB amendment process expands the boundary but does not assign land uses. As many of you know, and some of you came to the recent summit, We've started the beginnings of the concept planning process. That is where we will determine land uses or set land uses. But we do talk about land use through this process because it is important and really necessary to understand why we are proposing what we propose.

12:01Speaker 20

The Zoom thing. The Zoom. The Zoom window.

12:05Traci Hensley

The Zoom attendance.

12:07Speaker 8

So the next one down, Teresa, the one that has been blocked, I think. Right here.

12:16Brian Hodson

Yeah, that one. Thank you for the pointer.

12:23Traci Hensley

I wasn't noticing because I have it on my laptop as well. You just block it to the side. I did.

12:41 – 13:06Speaker 15

we go thank you all right thank you I think I need you to click back on the presentation for the clicker to work again so well that's going on question regarding the

13:07Brian Hodson

we could go up to a hundred and two and that' s the maximum we could go and the minimum is 72. 73 is the minimum and that would be required for us to do 73 acres of residential.

13:25 – 13:59Speaker 8

And this is we're going to get into slides on this is up to 25.7 acres in sub area 1a is available for park designation and up to 3.7 acres of neighborhood commercial. So we'll get into the details of that a bit more. So that just a preview of that pot just very small seed plant here is that these 25.7 acres of parkland if it was not developed as parkland would end up becoming residential there'll be an underlying residential base zone and that's an overlay.

14:02 – 14:58Speaker 15

All right, just a reminder from some of our early mapping work with the community that the community overwhelmingly felt that the northwest expansion area that we'll go through was more appropriate for residential and the eastern area was more appropriate for industrial. So we used that as kind of a guiding principle as we went through our work. also according to Oregon state land use rules there's a priority scheme when we look at bringing lands and considering lands for being included in the urban growth boundary expansion. Canby does not have any urban reserves, but does have exception lands. And so those are the first priority. Canby does not have marginal lands and has a very small amount of low value farmland. So the second category that we are looking at is high value farmland. So really, Canby has priority one and priority four lands.

14:59Speaker 8

And you probably noticed the footnote, which is the exception lands are the non-EFU lands, they're rural residential forest farm five acre.

15:10 – 21:07Speaker 15

And those are considered first in the state's effort to protect farmland. All right, the recommendation. So going to those exception lands first, we have four, we broke this up into four distinct areas, 1A through 1D. 1A is about 116 acres. We are recommending that a portion of that be brought into the urban growth boundary. That is large enough to accommodate that entire 102.5 acres, you know, 73.1 to 102.5, based on the direction that city council decides to go. And we'll talk more about that later. area 1b is about 50 acres has some constraints it's appropriate for residential or employment uses but and this will be a theme because our residential need is being accommodated in 1a the entire piece 1b is being recommended to be brought in for employment uses. And the same goes for subarea 1C. It's about 34 acres. That would be brought in for employment as well. The last of the exception areas is 1D. This is the new area that is built out with manufactured homes and a cemetery and, frankly, would be challenging to extend utilities to or costly to extend utilities to as well. So we are not recommending to include any portion of this in the urban growth boundary expansion. Now we move on to the areas of high-value farmland sub areas 2 through 10. Sub area 2 is completely surrounded by the city a great candidate for residential expansion unfortunately we've accommodated again our residential need in 1A. The recommendation is that subsequent to this process, the city consider adding the sub-area to the urban growth boundary through what's called a goal exception process, a different process than the one that we're going through now, saying that the use is kind of, because it's surrounded, it's kind of written in the cards that that will be residential at some point. It would make sense in terms of good urban form to bring that in. Similarly, with sub-area three, again, a great candidate for residential use. Recommend considering a goal exception process for that as well. There's another goal exception process that allows you to bring in some lands when they're needed to serve other lands. So if portions of three are needed to serve 1A, also when 1A comes in, it'll be completely surrounded by the city as well, or by the urban growth boundary anyway. So that is the recommendation there. sub area four is the swan island dahlia farm and an important social cultural and economic business in the city and we recommend not including that in the urban growth boundary expansion. Sub areas five and six again the community said this would be a great way to expand for residential use but we do not have the residential need for for either sub areas five or six at this time so the recommendation is to not include them in the expansion. Sub area seven like one B and one C is would could be a good area for housing or employment again we're recommending recommending bringing in for employment. Along with one B and one C. sub areas 8 and 9 also being recommended for inclusion for employment lands Well suited for it relative to the location near other industrial uses so that is 8 and that is 9 and and for nine you' ll see this in the final recommendation map the recommendation is to bring in most of nine but not as one of your planning commissioners said the little piece of that looks like nevada at the bottom of sub area nine so that triangle we' re not recommending because that is in the hundred year floodplain. And just a note here, and Don mentioned this, so subareas eight and nine are potential locations for a sports complex. The EOA allocated or identified up to 35 acres for a sports complex, and parks are an allowed use in industrial zones. We will have at least one alternative for that. that sites sports complex in that area for your consideration and the community's consideration through the concept plan process. then sub area 10 another area that could be industrial or could be residential and we if it comes in now it would have to be employment and so through talking with you all we are recommending that it not be brought in at this time so that it could be a good candidate for residential in the future that decision can be made at a future date. a reminder that the 20-year land need for can be is up to five hundred and forty one point seven acres this recommendation includes five hundred and sixteen gross acres and 492 about 492 unconstrained acres so there are some constraints but most of it is buildable land and this is what that looks like 1a you can see two and three are a different color because we've identified those for consideration for future expansion but all the areas in gold are recommended 1a 1b 1c 7 8 and about half or so of sub area 9.

21:10 – 21:25Speaker 6

Thank you. Just to drive home this overarching point, if you could go back to the next one. Yeah. So how many acres, Mr. Mayor and Council, how many acres is Area 2, roughly?

21:26Speaker 15

I believe that is about 13 acres. Okay.

21:30 – 21:58Speaker 6

So... It meets, so we could add that in because we can go up to 102, but the reason we're advising council not to is because we think it might remand this whole thing back to us from the state because it's EFU land. I guess I'm trying to hear from you as staff why this, we have a willing property owner that wants to come in, why do we wait?

22:00 – 22:38Speaker 15

So this is because of that priority rules and if we were to put residential in sub area two that would mean that we would likely have to put some of our employment industrial and in one a. because that needs to be considered before the non-exception lands, the high-value farmland. I think we make a good case with DLCD that we want residential in this area, but if we were to move to 2 before 1A, that would be the problem.

22:40Speaker 20

So to make a long story short, if you put 2 before 1A, they would tell us no.

22:48Speaker 15

Either they would likely tell us no. I don't know if you have any additional comments.

22:52Speaker 20

I mean, just to summarize and put it, the reason why is because they say no.

22:56 – 23:24Speaker 4

If I may real quick, and I think this is where we're going with this. If memory serves me correctly, we have to bring this land in chunks. So each one of these areas is designated as a chunk of land to be brought in. And so if you were to bring in two... Really, we would only need to bring in part of 1A, but you can't really break up 1A because it is a particular chunk. Or is that a misunderstanding?

23:25 – 24:29Speaker 15

No, these sub-areas are for study purposes. We don't have to bring these in in full. I think the problem is that we're telling DLCD, Because we have to consider the 1A through 1D first. We're telling them, hey, we don't want to put employment in 1A. It's not suitable for that. But therefore, we need to accommodate. I mean, there's no reason to not put the residential there. So if we were to go to the high-value farmland before the exception land, that would be the problem. And the other issue that we've talked about is that would... decrease doing it subsequently allows us to expand into one a as well as potentially two and three whereas if we were to add two and three that would reduce your residential land need yeah okay um in in terms of just maybe just go ahead yeah there's a question oh did you have a question sorry it's a

24:32Speaker 10

One of the questions we've seen in the past is 1A is not considered high value farmland and that's not a city thing. That's because that's designated by the county.

24:45Speaker 8

Well, it's exceptional land, and I think because it's been parceled into five-acre pieces, essentially, that's my belief as a rationale.

24:53Brian Hodson

And it's zoning.

24:54 – 25:09Speaker 8

And it's zoning, yeah. I mean, it's not to say that the soils aren't good in 1A. We're totally on board there. But the zoning, which is the five-acre zone, which is not EFU, that's the issue there.

25:09Speaker 10

And that zoning isn't city zoning?

25:11Speaker 8

It's county, Clackamas County. Yes.

25:14Speaker 10

It's not the city that's made it five acres. It's the county.

25:18 – 26:19Speaker 8

And it predated, and this actually predated zoning in the state, actually, is our understanding. That development in that area on those five-acre pieces predated Clackamas County zoning. So just to make it a bit... more history there. Just contextually, I think one thing just to keep in mind is we are including sub area two and three in the concept planning, not in the urban growth boundary expansion process. If there is support by council to do goal exceptions for two and three, staff would recommend we do those after concept planning, which would mean that whole area would be planned more or less together. The idea behind that would be we would do concept planning, go through that process, and then we would do the goal exceptions over the next year. Then we would come back and do a comprehensive plan amendment for all of it and all the boundary areas. And then that would all come in essentially more or less as one area.

26:21 – 26:36Speaker 20

I'll just restate kind of what I'm understanding you're saying is that 1A first, because then 2 and 3 could potentially fall in place afterwards with a less rigorous process than we're doing right now.

26:36Speaker 8

It would be substantially less rigorous. We would not be going through this, what we're doing now. Not to say it's unrigorous, but it's not what we're doing right now. So it's a way of...

26:48Speaker 20

sneaking more in later.

26:50Speaker 8

Well, and the state actually is supportive of it. They're asking us to look at that. They're saying those actually make sense to them.

27:02Speaker 9

And again, Don, just for people that might be watching, even two and three, they'd have to request annexation.

27:09 – 30:49Speaker 8

They would, absolutely. I just wanted to make sure. They would completely have to go through that process, and it's completely voluntary to do that and for them to take that step. Great. You're up next. Okay, okay. So next slide. So we're gonna go into sub-area 1A and kind of further defining this a bit more. And I'm gonna provide some, some context here, and this is, again, stuff that we're gonna be addressing more in detail during the hearing process, but to give you all kind of a preview of that process, again, the urban growth boundary process is a sizing exercise. really it's a sizing exercise and really not a land use designation exercise, but we're having to at least consider the potential of where residential may go and the potential of where parks may go. This exercise, however, is conceptual. We have not landed on any analysis or detail as to where parks should go in this area. We're trying to just more or less do a scaling thing and give you all some information to consider in that decision making process about, in particular, on the park land piece about the 25.7 acres. Should it be that much? Should it be zero? Should it be 25.7? Should it be somewhere less than that? And this is to help you all, I think, scale that a bit better as we go through that. So I'm gonna go ahead and we have several options we've identified and these are again based on just parcels that we've looked at and also no decisions have been made on the residential part of this either, which that needs to be part of the concept planning in terms of the designation. We know 73.1 acres has to be residential and has to go somewhere in Subbury 1A. The options, again, are parkland, which is how much of that should be parkland, and then the other part is neighborhood commercial, and we'll get into that a bit more here. So some considerations for scaling of that area, and these are, kind of rough numbers extrapolated from the housing needs analysis and cross checked with some general assumptions. And so roughly about, we are believing about 466 housing units could be developed in that area if it was completely redeveloped in that area with 73.1 acres, which is about 1200 residents at 2.6 persons per household. And if you look at the park standard that's been adopted in the comp plan, which is 10 acres per thousand, that's about 12 acres. So that's one of those considerations. Other considerations though, kind of get into things that are a bit more longer term about how does this relate to sub area two and three, you know, if those go through goal exceptions and which would have a relationship there. And so this is another element that would be part of that. some further considerations. Here is, again, looking at the situation on, you know, for parkland in particular as we get in, and this is probably more in concept planning, but it has to do with sizing at this point, but looking at trying to avoid larger homes and areas and looking at the community summit recommendations. And how we would potentially buffer the Dahlia farm were considerations that we looked at. Which leads us to some, sorry, yes, John.

30:49 – 31:02Brian Hodson

Just, and you might be getting this, which I appreciate. Just for conceptual, the new park that we just built and put in, how many acres is that? 2.3, I think. Okay. Yeah.

31:03 – 31:31Speaker 9

Great. Yes, sir. And just to follow up on that, Don. So it would be during the conceptual portion where you'd look at the park master plan because of the fact that that new park is very, very close to the proximity of this. And is that taken into account on how much parkland is needed over here so that we're not stacking all the parks in that one corner?

31:34 – 32:27Speaker 8

I believe that will combine our response. But yes, that would be something we would be considering. I know this is a bit of a difficult exercise because we haven't really done a deep dive and that's really more of the concept planning part of this about what truly would be the best place for where a park would go. And then the question becomes how big. that these are challenging items without having more analysis done but we're required as a step process to do the urban growth boundary first and that acreage will set the tone for the next piece of this which is The cycle that happens in Oregon, it's a bit clunky because that, you know, we're not doing these in the same process. They're essentially the boundary has to occur first. But yes, to your specific question, there would be absolutely more analysis done about looking at the need. Okay.

32:27 – 32:48Speaker 9

And so just if the what ifs, the what ifs is that there's by far enough acreage for parks up in that area, especially with the brand new park. and then looking at the park master plan, are we going to create way too many parks up in that area and forget the other portions of the city?

32:50 – 34:27Speaker 8

I don't believe that will be the case because the capital improvement plan and system development plan that you all adopted recently has a list of parks already in the current city limits and its urban growth boundary. 77 acres roughly of parkland area, that would still happen. And so this is like on top of that. And so that's... there's still, this would mean that that, I mean, that is the priority of what's happening now. And then when, when the boundary gets expanded, we will relook at like, obviously those areas, you know, for additional park areas. And so, um, there will be definitely parks built in the city and the urban growth boundary. Now that's part of the CIP that we, that we have already adopted. Um, this would be again as an additional piece of that. Um, and I guess maybe just contextually, um, This is the unique part of sub area 1A because it's exception land is that whatever did not get built out as park would be residential. So that would be, I mean, so this is a differentiator. The rules are all strange here in terms of this process, but that is a differentiator that does differ from the neighborhood commercial. The neighborhood commercial would have to go specifically there in that location. Parks, however, if the city were not able to do public-private partnership or a public park to the extent of where it was shown conceptually, it would end up being a residential area. Okay. Thank you.

34:29 – 35:12Speaker 6

So with that, I know it was a lot. Can I add something really quickly, Mayor, to this slide? So this is where it gets fun. This is the can-be flavor to this, the hyper-engagement, hyper-local engagement with all these property owners. So if you look at the map there that's being displayed as 1A on that foam core, now look up on the screen. This is where staff and property owners are coming to you when you have public hearings to decide which part of 1A you want to bring in to Canby versus what that picture looks like right there. And this is really detailed work and done a lot of outreach to these individual property owners. So can you explain what the council, mayor and council are looking at right here? Absolutely.

35:12 – 36:35Speaker 8

So we have, and again, we're showing, and I've got details of these, they're individually blown up, but option A, which is in the upper left quadrant, has zero park acreage. Now again, the residential area that's shown there is conceptual because that has not been determined either. We're just throwing yellow down there as to where the residential would likely possibly go. Option B shows the same residential area but with 9.52 acres of park. Option C shows the same residential area with 14.82 acres of park and option D, 24.31 acres of park. Let me get to the detail because this is really hard to see. So this is the first, this is just a residential only. And then these colors are not maybe as quite as contrasting as I'd like them to be. But when you start to look on the upper left quadrant, you're going to see a change here. So going back... see the white and then the transition there so on the left side so that would be in those again not to say that we'd ever put a park across the street from one another but again just for sizing purposes only this is 9.52 acres of park and what that would look like for that area. Option C is, again, going back from this to... Can you use the laser pointer? Yeah, absolutely.

36:35Speaker 15

There's a red button there. Yeah, absolutely.

36:38Traci Hensley

A reminder, everybody needs to use their mics.

36:42Speaker 6

Sorry. So, Don, thank you, Councillor President. What are you displaying in yellow versus the white?

36:51 – 37:08Speaker 8

The yellow would be, again, this is conceptual where this residential, 73.1 acres of residential would be. That, again, has not been determined. And then the parkland designated could be, if it was these two properties, it would be 9.52 acres, that piece and this piece.

37:11Speaker 9

Don, where's 22nd at? 20, it's right here. Okay.

37:16 – 38:08Speaker 4

Well, and I think it might be good to also mention, from what I remember, is that we are, like, if someone at home is looking at this and saying, well, they're designating this as parkland, why would you do that? Why would you put the park there? Right. I think it's important to know that we are doing that for this process, but once this process is over and we start to really hone in on the details, it's not necessarily that that park is going to go there. This is just to say, look, we know we need to set aside this many acres to make the state happy. And to do these two parcels, it gets us towards that goal. And so that's why we're doing it the way we're doing it. Later on, that can all change.

38:10 – 38:30Speaker 8

That is correct. Yeah. So I'm going to jump to the next one, which is C. And you can see on C here that we've lump summed the park area right in here that's been lump summed. And that's 14.82 acres right there. Subarea three is here and subarea two is here.

38:31 – 38:46Speaker 6

And then the next... Can you explain what you're trying to... visually display here, Don, with the white parcels. Let's be clear on that. Okay, so these two, Randy? No, no, the white. Okay, I'm sorry. The white, I'm sorry. You're recommending not bringing them in.

38:46 – 39:41Speaker 8

That would be essentially the area that would not be brought in. This is a choice. Yes, and so these are the boundaries. Thank you, Randy. So this, again, would be when we get to the hearing process, like, again, from our community involvement and, you know, Although neighborhood, you know, property owner interest rather is not a factor by state law, there obviously is a consideration of that as well as functionality of where utilities are at, which is more on the connection side on the east side. There's more proximity to utilities and roads, et cetera. And there's been a general consensus on the community that they would rather have the designation of the urban growth boundary be more on the eastern side than on the western side. And again, this is something that we'll be getting into more detail to hearing about, but thank you, Rennie, on the differentiation of the boundary itself.

39:43Traci Hensley

Is there reasoning from the public comment about where they wanted it to go?

39:48 – 41:09Speaker 8

I think really, well, there's several reasonings. One is, you know, the Dahlia Farm is leasing property around, not just the property that they're in that sub-area for, but there's other property. And so there was, you know, that and how do you buffer the Dahlia Farm a bit, that was part of it. There was a large amount of conversation. You can see the area in gray up here, directly abutting the city and so there'd be infrastructure and utilities available already developed. There was also, in terms of the, not just the dahlia farm, but the general perspective on soils was better on the western side of this than on the eastern side. And again, I can't give you partial by partial breakdown, but that's been the general commentary. So the next one would be 24.31 acres. And again, that would be all of what was shown in the last option C plus this area up in here. And the final, I think there's one more. Actually, no, that was the last one. That's 24.31. And so, again, these are, again, trying to give some perspective here. And... It's a difficult exercise to actually show this at this level because we haven't really done the full evaluation, but we are asked to determine acreage for the boundary. Yes, sir.

41:10 – 41:21Speaker 20

Oh, questions. So if today we approved the 24-acre park plan, Would we have to do 24 acres later on?

41:22Speaker 8

It would be if the city...

41:23 – 41:37Speaker 20

I mean, we say 24 and then later on after everything's ignited and then we get the properties and stuff and say, eh, we don't need it anymore. Would we be somehow obligated to give it back out of the...

41:37 – 41:55Speaker 8

The rest of that would be residentially developed. So whatever part, let's say the city did five acres, and just hypothetically, and there was 25.7 acres that you decided as council to approve, then the remainder of the 20.7 acres would end up being residential.

41:56 – 42:29Speaker 20

So... Just to say what my devious mind is thinking right now is that by approving the max amount of parks gives us the highest amount of urban growth expansion. It does. And gives us options for more in the future than say if we were to approve the smallest one, then we'd be kind of boxed in with the smallest, the number A, that one A, the one you did originally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Councilor Patton.

42:30 – 44:06Speaker 4

So to Councilor Stern's point, and this is a thought that's been rattling around in my head, I have made it very clear on a few different occasions that in that area too, that we're talking about bringing in possibly later, that it is very unusual for a piece of property like that to be surrounded by the city that large of a piece of property. And that piece of property has been in agriculture for decades. IS CURRENTLY AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A WELL HEAD THERE BECAUSE THAT SERVES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BELIEVE IFA NURSERY HAS NOT GIVEN UP THAT PROPERTY IS BECAUSE THE WELL HEAD THAT SERVES THEIR LARGER FARM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD IS LOCATED ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. I have made it very clear that I think it would behoove the city to purchase some of that land and create a agricultural reserve, essentially an agriculture park that would more or less be farmland that would either be unused or turned into community gardens or something like that to help preserve that for the future. If something like that were to happen, would some of that land then say, well, look, we're doing this master plan, and we originally approved this 20-some acres to come, the 24.31 acres to come out of 1B, but now we're actually going to designate some of two as parkland, so we're still going to hit that number, but it's not all going to be in 1A. Is that feasible, and will we get in trouble for something like that?

44:07 – 44:47Speaker 8

I think from the perspective of you won't get in trouble because I mean for the first answer it would be a sizing issue. I mean collectively you could say cumulatively we're going to serve the city with this acreage and you would still serve the city with acreage that's being expanded but differently and that would totally be a policy level decision the council could make and I think that Part of this, we'll be getting into, obviously, discussions with property owners if that were something that was desired with IFA in particular on that.

44:48 – 45:01Speaker 15

I would just add that with bringing in additional areas, two and or three, that comes also with additional residents, which then increases your park need in that way as well. Yeah.

45:02 – 45:22Speaker 8

But I think that to your point, and this makes it challenging, and hopefully this is going to be something that we won't have information tonight, but when we get more into the concept planning piece... that could start to detail out a bit more of those kinds of things, those thoughts, because we are including two and three, even though they're not part of the urban growth boundary in the concept planning.

45:23Speaker 9

Okay. One more question here. Don, how are the options decided?

45:29 – 46:00Speaker 8

Option A, B, C? They were fairly random, just to give you scaling. I mean, this is really, I mean, the residential part was based on community input and basically having residential primarily on the east side. Okay. The parkland, I mean, really our perspective as staff was looking at the soil comments that were received about soils being better on the west side. The dahlia farm having some transitional buffer between that and its farming activity because the residential write-up against that may or may not be a good mix.

46:01Speaker 9

But when it comes down to it and making the decision, do we accept option A, B, CRD, who makes that decision?

46:10Speaker 8

And that would be the council, and you all would be making a decision on the boundary, essentially.

46:18 – 46:43Speaker 15

Yeah, go ahead, Steve. And to be clear, Don's not asking you to choose A, B, C, or D. You can choose anywhere between zero and 25.7 acres. This is to help you understand kind of what that looks like from a scaling perspective. And I think, Don, correct me if I'm wrong, but based on guidance from council, when we come back for the hearing, we'll come back with a specific proposal. Yeah, absolutely.

46:43 – 47:20Speaker 9

Okay. So, Don, like, for instance, you said if we... didn't use that parkland in some of these options, then it could be considered residential. On option A, for instance, that has no parks, say for instance, through the concept planning and stuff, it called out that a need for a two-acre park. Can you still include that two-acre park into that residential area. In other words, you see what I'm saying? On the flip coin, can we say, no, that will be all residential, but through the concept planning, it requires a park.

47:21 – 47:45Speaker 15

I think that would be all right as long as the city, you know, the 73 acres is tied to a specific number of units and densities. You might just have to have a little bit denser housing to make sure you're hitting your number of units target. But I think you could have, if a park was decided, yes, you could include that. It just would impact maybe the density of the housing slightly. Okay.

47:45 – 48:26Speaker 4

Because I think... and make sure I'm on track with this, if we went with option A and we decided we needed more parkland, then essentially we have to give up residential land in order to build a park. But if we go with option D, we have... the maximum amount of parkland, but in the end, if it's like, well, we really don't need all that parkland and we need a little more residential, then technically that can be used for residential. So we're giving our option D gives us the, allows us to maximize that area for future decisions. Is that correct? Yes. Agreed.

48:26 – 48:52Speaker 15

And I would just caveat that by asking for 25.7 acres of park, the intent of the city would be to develop those as park, but the state recognizes that that's not always possible. The only... consequence, if that's the right word, would be the next time the city goes to look at the UGB, your residential need is going to be less because you ended up having more residential than you.

48:52 – 49:20Brian Hodson

Sure. And, sorry, not to belabor this slide necessarily, but looking at like option D where we've got those seven parcels there that are designated. We're not necessarily that that's where parks would go. It could be somewhere where it's that more marigold yellow. That's just showing if we added how much added

49:21 – 49:32Speaker 8

Yeah, space. That's exactly right. And so that would be, again, kind of, you'd be defining a boundary and then the concept planning would get into the details of the designations based on the concept.

49:32Speaker 6

Mr. Mayor, to your point, I don't think it even has to be in 1A. if they want to build parks somewhere else. They could build it somewhere else.

49:40 – 50:12Speaker 8

There could be a combination. Let's say that it happens between 2-3 and 1-A and there's like cumulatively meets the city's desired needs. It could be a combination. You know, there's trade-offs here about like how are we sizing this, and then also how much flexibility does the city want? The Planning Commission did recommend the full amount, 25.7 acres. And again, they didn't go into a lot of detail, but they said parks are important, and essentially that was the reasoning behind it.

50:13Brian Hodson

Okay. Councillor Stearns, and then I think we need to get... Okay, just real quick. I vote for Dean, so...

50:19Speaker 20

Okay, well, we're just in a work session, and we can't... And aren't you looking for direction from the council?

50:25Speaker 8

And I think it's helpful, you know, that, like, what you all want to see when we get to the hearing in particular, that would be really helpful, so we're prepared to, like, address that and answering your questions.

50:35Speaker 20

Yeah, I know we're not voting right now officially, but...

50:38 – 50:50Speaker 8

So you would like a consensus from us on an option? I think just generally like what options you guys, not to say that you're voting on this, but just kind of what you'd like to see in that hearing.

50:51 – 51:12Speaker 9

I would be for option D as well. Yes, sir. So, Don, say, for instance, we did say we'd recommend option D. And at that time, the city council says, okay, parks, can athletic fields be included as a park? In other words, can you use some of that 25 acres for athletic fields?

51:12 – 51:23Speaker 8

You could, yeah, absolutely. It could go in that area. It could go in the employment area as well. So those are all part of the considerations here that are going to be detailed out more. Okay, thank you.

51:23Brian Hodson

Can I take this 25 acres and put it in Section 8?

51:30Brian Hodson

Well, I think that's, I mean, not just neighboring the neighboring lovely beige that could come on later, but totally other part of the city.

51:40 – 51:57Speaker 15

Yes, especially because parks are an accepted use in the industrial zones that the city has. It's not even necessarily tied to the 25.7. The 25.7 is really tied to the residential development, but it could go anywhere.

51:58Brian Hodson

Thank you. Councilor Waterman, did you have a question?

52:02Speaker 4

That just means that all of that would be just residential, but that would be less we'd have for the later expansion.

52:08Speaker 10

If you use that 25 someplace else.

52:10Speaker 8

It would, and with maybe the one caveat that there might be some parks developed in sub-area 2 and 3 if those are goal exceptions to go through. Okay.

52:19Speaker 10

I'd be for the D type option.

52:23Speaker 10

Do you have an opinion? No.

52:27 – 52:49Traci Hensley

I have an opinion. I'll keep it to myself. But I think on this particular... That's probably best to not be on the mic. I guess D. To be honest, this whole conversation here takes me because the state demands so much. But I think of the options we are given, D looks the best.

52:52 – 53:11Speaker 6

And I think, Mr. Mayor and Council, I know you want to wrap up and you're almost done. But remember, as you know, you all know, the last time this was done was 40 years ago. So there's a lot of time out there where you're going to get to shape this and can be another 40 years.

53:14Speaker 4

No. It needs to be another 20 years. We need to stay on track with what they say we're supposed to do.

53:18Speaker 9

And spray my beer.

53:28 – 54:57Speaker 8

The only other part here, the neighborhood commercial piece, which is even more challenging perhaps to address. We have not received a lot of community discussion around this issue. The Planning Commission recommended 3.7 acres of neighborhood commercial in this area. The difficulty of neighborhood commercial is that has to be neighborhood commercial and it has to be designated on someone's property. That's a big ask in an area that does not have like a major road going through it. And just the dynamics of my understanding of a convenience kind of neighborhood store is pretty unique. I mean, and so there actually may be some public testimony against the neighborhood commercial you'll have on September 16. I'm not trying to paint a picture here in any way, but just that is completely discretionary. It's a new item that state law allows us to do up to 5% of the 73 acres, which is 3.7 acres. neighborhood commercial in this part of this 1A. So I think it's a challenging fit as a staff recommendation. It would be a lot to ask somebody unless they were raising their hand high saying I want to be that property that has neighborhood commercial on it. We haven't had that person show up so far. So I'm just we're a bit cautious here as staff on that issue.

54:58 – 55:13Brian Hodson

Well, I know at that last community meeting, there was quite a bit of consternation about the whole concept and idea of having a commercial area designated out there in that part of Canby.

55:13 – 55:26Speaker 8

So there's accountability plus the dynamics of finance, and would it really even be viable? I mean, those are legitimate items, yeah. Yes.

55:26 – 55:48Speaker 20

Question on that is the 3.7 acres of commercial. What do you have to say right now which acreage is going to be it? So basically we could say 3.7 commercial and then in the end no one wants to raise their hand for it. What happens? Concept plan.

55:50Speaker 15

We would be identifying that land use somewhere in 1A through the concept plan process.

55:56Speaker 8

Someone would have to have that on their property, and that may not be real.

56:01Speaker 20

So before we finish this urban growth expansion, we would have to have somebody raise their hand?

56:08Brian Hodson

No. Not in this section when we get to the planning of breaking it down.

56:14 – 56:43Speaker 8

We're just not sure if that would be something someone really would want on their property because they would be stuck with that. And that would be, if it's all residential around your property and you have a neighborhood commercial and you're not able to develop your property, that could be a serious issue. And so I'm putting this in with... We're putting this in because the state offers it, but we're not necessarily an advocacy group for neighborhood commercial in this area.

56:44 – 56:56Speaker 20

Right now, we're at the point where we say we want it or we don't want it. The acreage. The acreage. And so if we don't want it, then that yellow thing shrinks by three acres?

56:57Speaker 8

Did you include the neighborhood commercial in those yellow? No, we have not yet.

57:01 – 57:18Speaker 20

So if we say yes, we want it, then that thing comes out by three acres. And if we say no, it stays where it is. But if we say yes, and then no one ever raises their hand, Is it still part of the urban growth boundary? I'm just... It is.

57:18 – 57:42Speaker 8

I think we cannot extract it once it's approved, and so that's the challenge here. But I think that might be a good litmus test, though, at the council meeting. If someone comes up and is a champion, I want to be that person and that property, the neighborhood commercial, maybe that's a litmus test to say, yes, you should consider it. But if someone does not do that, I would recommend not including it. I'm gonna go as far as saying that.

57:44Speaker 20

I'm just saying what would happen if we included it in the urban growth expansion but never included it in the concept later on just because it never happened.

57:54Speaker 4

It sounds like the answer is we're stuck.

57:57Speaker 20

We're stuck.

57:58 – 58:11Speaker 15

If it's there, somebody has to do it. We would be required to identify 3.78, through zoning or comprehensive plan designations, 3.7 acres of neighborhood commercial through the concept plan.

58:11Speaker 20

Okay, I'm just trying to explore. Sure.

58:14Speaker 10

Councilor Waterman? So when you say we would have to, so basically against a property owner's will, we would say, sorry, your property is this, and they don't have any sale.

58:24Speaker 15

I mean, that would be the same as designating for, that will be, the city will be designating for different types of residential as well. Certainly take community input.

58:32Speaker 10

But if they never sell or anything, they don't have to, it's, so.

58:35 – 58:51Speaker 8

If they decided not to come into the city, that would be one situation, but if they desired to come into the city, they would have to come in as neighborhood commercial. Got it, so if they ever decided to come in, then they can only do it. And you all will be voting on the concept plan, so they will be probably present at that point.

58:56Speaker 10

As a notice, I don't see any reason why we would want to try to designate any of that.

59:04 – 59:19Speaker 8

Are you guys wrapping up? I think we're done. So any comments on things that we did not cover that you would like to see us cover on September 16th?

59:21 – 59:38Brian Hodson

I think we hit bullet point one. Bullet point two, how much parkland in sub area 1A, we kind of already hit on that tonight. And then how much land for neighborhood certain commercial, which we just finished that conversation piece. I mean, are there anything we're missing?

59:40 – 59:56Traci Hensley

I just want some clarity on timeline. Because what we're going to be asked of on the 16th, because I know that there's a public meeting in October. So how does all that fit in? So I just would like some clarity on what the timeline looks like and when this decision is final.

59:57 – 1:01:11Speaker 8

So the urban growth boundary timeline, it will be your vote on September 16. And if that is an approved vote for the boundary, that goes to the planning commission at the county on November 9th. It goes to the county board of commissioners on December 1st. And then we will wrap all of the packaging up of this and send it to the state by the end of the year, which we're required to do by January 1, 27. Concept planning is a parallel process that we're doing in concert with this. The community summit on October 20th will be a continuation of discussions from the last community summit. There'll be... at least two concept plans that will be shown there. We'll be asking the community to provide more input on that process as it gets refined. That's gonna continue into next year because there needs to be additional evaluation once we start to hone in on preferred concepts on utilities and roads and infrastructure, those kinds of things have to be addressed as part of that as well, which will go into next year and the concept plan should be before you somewhere in the March to May period of 27. Okay. Thank you.

1:01:11Brian Hodson

Are there pieces on here, Don, that you want to just... further flush out. I mean, we got a little bit, but... Or drive home?

1:01:21 – 1:01:41Speaker 8

I think we got what we needed on our end. And this is, again, you're going to see a lot of repeat in some ways on the hearing. You know, the slides are going to be similar. So I think it's, you all seem to have grasped what we're asking you all to address. And I think it's just a matter of going through the process. Okay.

1:01:41 – 1:01:55Speaker 6

Yes, Randy. Thank you, Mayor. Timeline. The council adopts this. County does their thing. DLCD acknowledges. Okay. And when do you estimate that might happen, the acknowledgement?

1:01:56 – 1:02:08Speaker 8

So it would be after January 1. I don't think it's a super long period of time for that. I think it's like... February, March time period.

1:02:08Speaker 6

And then what does the council start doing next with the properties that are now in? How do we move forward? Another timeline.

1:02:19Speaker 15

Yeah, it'll be the concept planning, which, as we mentioned, is the assigning of the land uses to specific parcels.

1:02:25 – 1:03:10Speaker 8

But maybe more to your point. And you've got an annex? I think I got you. So we've got concept planning, and then if you all are supportive of subarea 2 and 3 going through a goal, goal exception, then staff will be working on that starting next fiscal year because we'll have to wait until the concept plan is adopted first, which is for the urban growth boundary that you've adopted. And then that will take probably a year to go through the goal exception. We will come back and do a comprehensive plan amendment to include two, three, and all of the other pieces and a transportation system plan amendment. At that point, someone could come in and do an annexation. So we're a ways out, but it's still near term.

1:03:12 – 1:03:51Brian Hodson

So lots of moving pieces. you know, simultaneously here once we get through this phase, DLCD says, you know, great job, can be way to go. They slow clap us out of the building because we did such a great job. Then there's the concept planning for the newly added areas go on. We are starting the process for two and three. So all said and done with what we're looking at, it's probably another... two years of work to kind of, we'll say, complete this plan.

1:03:51 – 1:04:17Speaker 8

And that's rough. Two to three. Two to three. Before we get a shovel in the ground. It won't be as robust as a comp plan that we did, which is 40 years old. So we actually now have an updated comp plan and transportation system plan. So that'll be a bit easier of a lift. Right. But there still will be that need to go back through that process. You have to then go through the comprehensive plan designation process to make it available to be added into your city. Super exciting.

1:04:19 – 1:07:45Speaker 4

A couple of three things. One is I want to just say that with everything that we, like we have put a lot of time and energy and work into this. The planning department has, you consult, the consultants have, the community has. And everybody should take a victory lap. even now because we, even though we want to stray off of the path and do a little this and do a little that and we talk about doing these things, the fact that we have gotten this far and that the state has pretty much been okay with what we're doing is really something to be commended for because there are, as I understand it, there are a lot of cities that did not follow the process the way that we have. And they decided to play the wild, wild west and do whatever the heck they wanted. And now they have to pretty much go through the whole process all over again and spend all that money and have all those meetings and do all that time and not get it in before these new changes, which is going to change everything. So I just want to thank everybody for really pushing the boundaries, but still working within them, because I think it is going to pay itself out in spades as we continue to roll down through this process. So that was one. Two, and I may have forgotten three, so this might be faster. Because we're talking about planning sort of things, and Don, you were not here when I planted the seed some time ago, I would really like to throw out a thought that I've had about special area J, okay? Because that's essentially the current piece that could be done something with in the city for residential and all that stuff. And... When we had the Clackamas Cities Dinner Meeting in Estacada a few months back, they had designated an old mill site or whatever as a special district where they could do some very creative planning on it. One of the things that I experienced a few months ago when I was in Denver for work, was my hotel was right across from a very large planned development. And it was a mix of green spaces with low density residential townhouses, multi-story apartment complexes, all within one area. And I'm just going to tell you that I am keen on looking at trying to do something like that with some of this land. Because we talk about wanting to get more people into the city and then keep them here. And what struck me about it is like a young couple could come in or a young person could come in and start renting an apartment. And then when they get further on in their life, then they could move into a townhouse. and then they could move into a single-family home, and so on and so forth. And so I really hope that as we start this larger planning of what we really want the city to look like, that there's an opportunity for us to look at something like that. Because I think that is definitely a newer way of thinking about how to build for residential, and I think it would... I think it would be very good for the city to consider that. And like I said, now I've forgotten three, so I won't worry about it.

1:07:46Brian Hodson

Yes, Councilor Davis.

1:07:48 – 1:10:56Speaker 9

Yeah, Don, good job tonight, and good job through the process too, number one. But I would ask just one thing is that the athletic field concept, we lost a tremendous opportunity with that sports complex. that went out to Woodburn and especially for the economics of this city and or at which time we get a hotel and motel and it's just gonna be good for the community to have something like that. But the one thing I feel has been missed or not presented is the sports complex and what that looks like and or can we use existing commercial property and start building on some of those sports complexes. Anything to do with helping our businesses out in the city in regards to creating business. And or citizens keep wondering why we don't get young families in town. hence look at the park situation and the last property that was purchased by the city for athletic fields was the school district and it's been the same since 1969 in regards to sports field complexes and things like that. So somewhere if we can hone in on that or make sure that's included in the plan, I think I'd appreciate that. And the other part, follow up on what Jason's talking about for conceptual, whether it's area J or whatever is, please through the conceptual plans, let's make sure that going into this, that they include egress in and out. And let's also look at building a safe community too, i.e. losing over 600 homes in Spokane. and the fire department couldn't get in and people couldn't get out because of lack of planning in regards to road networking to get in and out of there. But other areas such as down in southern Idaho and Boise Meridian and those areas, they've actually started addressing that by separating the residential areas so that if there is a substantial disaster that comes through there, i.e. a fire or something like that, that it's not 600 homes. that it's a smaller amount of homes and they're built safely so that we don't have something like happen. I mean, now's the time to plan that out. Other communities in California, for instance, where they've lost just huge housing areas, they go back and they build the exact same thing over again. And then it burns down again. That just doesn't make sense to me. But thank you.

1:10:57 – 1:13:26Speaker 4

Well, and if I may, real quick, just to piggyback on what Jim was saying, or Councilor Davis was saying when it comes to the athletic complex, I am all for seeing something like that, but I want bigger potatoes. I personally do not think that a sports complex is going to push us over the limit for getting a hotel motel in the city. What I would really like to see is the athletic complex as well as the pool, because we have been talking for decades about a pool, but also a convention center space. Not like the one that's at the fairgrounds, but I'm talking about one that's larger. There's the one in Hillsboro, the Wingspan Conference Center or whatever. And some of the organizations that I'm a part of, there is a desire to move different trade shows around and stuff because they've kind of shrunk compared to the Oregon Convention Center, but there's really no good intermediate convention center space anywhere in the Portland metro area. And I think it would be a huge opportunity for us to build something maybe similar size or a little larger than that one that's in Hillsboro, but also include some ballrooms and some stuff so that way you can have conventions and indoor athletic and and indoor concerts and smaller events and stuff and really start to plan out if we really want to talk about these sort of things being economic engines then we need to stop we need to not think of just about soccer fields we've got to think about all of that sort of stuff and then you're going to start getting more people to come into the city and then you're going to have a hotel you're actually say okay now it's time for me to come in and and and pull the pull the trigger on actually doing something like this. So that is something else that I would be very interested in. I actually sent some pictures to a few people, I think, of one that I had went to in Reno for a few shows where it was a large convention center space that had box seats for concerts as well as seating that would fold up and stuff. I really think that if we had the ability to do something like that, it would really set us apart from other places because not other places in the Portland metro area have these blocks of land that we would be able to do, that could do something like this. And I think it's our time to capitalize on that.

1:13:29 – 1:13:56Brian Hodson

Great. Any other comments? And again, to Pastor Patton's point, I think a lot of that comes about in our conversation as we dive into the planning, as we break that down. Same thing, I think, to your point, Jim, as we look at, yeah, does that eat into some of the residential... what gets developed residentially if we're looking at some of those better buffer zones to prevent those kinds of things from happening.

1:13:57 – 1:14:08Speaker 8

And there's a lot more to come on the concept planning. We're kind of just giving a very macro. There's many steps in this process. Great.

1:14:10Speaker 8

Appreciate your... Thank you, guys.

1:14:11 – 1:30:06Brian Hodson

Steve, it's good to see you again. Thank you. Great job. Really, really appreciate it. That concludes our work session this evening. It is 6.48 according to Cupertino. We will be back at 7 for our city council meeting. Thank you. Good evening, Camby. Welcome to our City Council meeting for September, gosh, second. It's hard to believe we're already, I don't know where August went, or June or July for that matter, but here we are in September. For our regular meeting this evening, we have a pretty good agenda, so we're going to get into it. Please stand for the invocation and then pledge of allegiance. Joey, Father, thank you so much for our great community. I can't stress enough just the thanks for your grace and protection of our small and growing city. Thank you for the leaders that are gathered here today. I know we have a special presentation this evening, and I know that we're... Mental health is a very important piece as well as trying to help those that feel that maybe suicide is an option. I just pray for those that might be struggling with that and that they reach out for the help that they need. I ask that you protect our men and women that serve our fine city and serve us and protect us abroad. I ask this in your name. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Ms. Teresa, roll call vote, please.

1:30:07Speaker 21

Councillor Patton.

1:30:09Brian Hodson

present or here.

1:30:11Speaker 21

Councilor Maldonado is absent. Council President Hensley. Here. Mayor Hodgson.

1:30:18Brian Hodson

I am here also.

1:30:19Speaker 21

Councilor Davis.

1:30:21Speaker 21

Councilor Stearns.

1:30:23Speaker 21

And Councilor Waterman.

1:30:24 – 1:32:20Brian Hodson

Here. Just to note, Councillor Maldonado did reach out and said that he, unfortunately, had a work conflict and will not be here this evening. Or he may be late, but he did reach out on that. So item three this evening is staff introductions, which we don't have any. Next up, citizen input and public comment. There's an opportunity to address the council. on non-agenda items or make an announcement to the general community. If you want to do either, please fill out one of these wonderful white cards that are right there in the back by the back entrance, front entrance. The entrance. To the, yeah, the only entrance to the council chambers and we'll make sure that you get your three minutes to address the council if we can handle it or give you an answer on that tonight. We will. If not, staff will do their work and due diligence to find that answer. First up, just community announcement-wise, I have been asked by our... by Willamette Falls Studios who run the video for us for council meetings and planning commissions. They are looking for, currently seeking community members to serve on its board of directors. The board meets quarterly with special meetings scheduled only when needed. So if you're interested in helping to expand the Canby community through programming, community storytelling, and help set the direction for Willamette Studios, you can email media at wfmcstudios.org or call 503-650-0275 if you're interested in being a board member. All right, I have a couple of cards here this evening. The first one is Scott Kentwine discussing Randy Ely contract extension. You're up, sir.

1:32:34 – 1:34:07Speaker 13

Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of city council. This will be redundant to most of you. I did send this in by email this morning, but wanted to share it on the public record. In advance of the discussion and consideration of the proposed contract extension for Randy Ely, I wanted to provide public comment as a member of the community, as a member of the budget committee, and as a city council candidate. I enthusiastically and wholeheartedly support the council's consideration of a contract extension for Randy. In my interactions with Randy, both on the budget committee and other projects, I have found Randy to be professional, prepared, and accessible. He represents the city very well. In particular, based on our budget committee work, I can tell that Randy has a genuine interest in building up and developing various city departments through focus areas such as training and staff development. This orientation towards growth through betterment is an asset to the city. Finally, in considering alternatives, I do not believe that Kamby's best interests would be served by not extending Randy's contract. Aside from the time, expense, and uncertainty of a recruitment process, most importantly, I do not believe that such a process would yield a better candidate than Randy. Thank you. in my professional work I've interfaced with city managers city administrators and city leadership throughout Oregon and I can confidently attest that Randy Ely is the ideal fit for the job and the council will be wise to keep him around. Thank you.

1:34:09Brian Hodson

Thank you sir. The next card I have is Irene Brashears.

1:34:29 – 1:44:13Speaker 12

Oh, I landed okay. That's good. Yeah, me too. Good evening, Mayor and Council and Teresa. My name is Irene Brashears, and I just wanted to make a citizen's input, but I wanted to express my thanks to the City of Canby and to the Council all these many years. My husband, Mike Brashears, had... Well, unexpectedly passed away in his sleep May 20th. And I wanted to thank the fire and police department for their exceptional help. And this is really tough. Excuse me. The city's been really generous in their support for my husband. I just wanted to say thank you all for supporting Mike. but for his dreams with his spinal cord injury and the injuries that he had all these years. All he wanted in life was just to marry and have a family and have a job that he could contribute in the community. So what happened to him? He got out of the army. in 1969, and he broke his neck in 1970, and everything went downhill from there. Then he tried so hard to get a job, Milwaukee Police Department accepted his application, but when they found out he broke his neck, they said, sorry, we can't use you. And the pain that he went through because his self-image was devastated. He tried and tried so hard. He was married at the time, but his wife, because he broke his neck, she left him and took him for everything he had. He had nothing. So he struggled. He went to Clackamas Community College. The campus was not wheelchair accessible in 1970. So he was always outside of the campus. trying to get into the classes and nobody would be there to open the doors for him. And he'd sit out there in the rain. And he didn't have a car, so he'd have to wait for taxis. And in spite of all that, he just kept going and going. He was knocked out all the time. But he kept getting up. So his health got worse. And so in 1977, the Portland VA hospital had to ship him down to Palo Alto VA. We just started the new spinal cord injury. So they thought they could help him. So in June 1977, he was transferred to the spinal cord unit that I was at. And he hates the VA and he hates Californians. And I'm in the VA and I'm a Californian. So... I never met him until September 77 because he was so sick, and they had to put him in a private room and have a one-to-one nurse because they didn't think he'd make it. But miraculously, he made it, and he got better. And so that's when I met him in September 77. We're supposed to, the policy is no fraternization between staff and patients. So we thought, well, We'll go down to our regional blind center rehab unit where nobody could see us. So that's where we were for our dates on the VA grounds. But anyway, our first date was Star Wars 1977. And that's what we did. And we got married in 1980. And the spinal cord staff, the whole unit came to our wedding. And May 20th is when he left to go to heaven. May 24th would have been our 46th wedding anniversary. But he didn't want a funeral, so I said, okay. And then all of a sudden I started getting phone calls and our pastor saying, you can't do this to us. You have to have something. He's not here. He's not going to know. So I said, okay. So it took about two months. And August 15th, we had the celebration of life for Mike. at the memorial because it was a full circle that because of this town was so gracious to accept him in spite of his limitations. He started the World War II commemorative here in 1995. It was a year-long celebration honoring our World War II veterans. We still have people here that remember that. We had money left over. And we didn't have enough money for the World War II Memorial, so Mike sat on it. And many years later, as a board of directors of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington Park, they said, Brashears, we want a Huey helicopter. get on it. So in 1998 to 1999, he found the helicopter and they said, sorry, we sold your helicopter to Mel Gibson's We Were Soldiers. So he had to go on the quest again and he found it in Ohio National Guard who said, shoot, how are we going to get it to Canby? So we had the National Guard, Les and Kevin, on an assignment from the National Guard from Oregon. to Ohio, brought Little Orphan Annie all the way back, and on August 6, 2011, we dedicated it, and it was just beautiful because this city had enough faith in Mike. It took a long time to get it done. City Attorney John Kelly said when we presented it to him that we finished, he said, I really didn't think you guys would make it. As a grassroots grassroots group and you guys made it. So I thought how apropos as a full circle, that we have a celebration of life in August because it would have been our 15th anniversary of the memorial that was dedicated to the city, to their veterans into the community. So it's a privilege for me to come to you and say thank you for allowing someone that everything went down on him but he still got up. I think that's the legacy that he has that no matter what, Life threw at him. He still got up. It took a long time for him to get up, but he still got up. The beautiful spirit of Gordon Christensen, I asked him if he could come and videotape it because we've had a history with him for our Iwo Jima's. Melanie Thompson could tell you that. He did videotapes of our annual Iwo Jima at the Canby Adult Center and Gordy was so kind and gracious, always filmed us and had the veterans there and everything. And he came out again and he videotaped Mike's celebration of life on August 15th. And I'd like to share that those that couldn't make it, Then if you go on YouTube under Celebration of Life for Mike Brashears, you will see the video that Gordon did and it's absolutely beautiful. And I hope you guys take the time to see it because it tells the people that really appreciated Mike's work and dedication as a volunteer because he couldn't get a job because of his condition. But instead of going into drugs and alcohol, he just turned it around to be a volunteer for this town. And so I appreciate you guys giving him an opportunity to give back to his community. Thank you.

1:44:39 – 1:46:01Brian Hodson

Irene, thank you for coming and sharing that with us. She's bolting for the door. It's okay. I've only had the opportunity to meet Mike a couple of times and always very much a gracious man. And if you don't know Irene, she was a postal worker here in Canby for a very long time, but continued to do a lot of work for our veterans in recognizing our World War II vets and still does. She works tirelessly. caring for Mike and for what she does in her community as well. Been very involved with the auxiliary. Both incredible people. Get to know Irene. She's pretty amazing. I HAVE NO OTHER CARDS OR ANYONE STORMING THE TABLE, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO A COUPLE OF SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING. I HAVE THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS PRESENTATION. Do they, so we kind of going hand in hand today? Yes. Along with the Canby Suicide Prevention Coalition?

1:46:02 – 1:50:51Speaker 19

Yes. Perfect. So who I have with me, thank you very much, all of you for allowing us this opportunity. My name is Gary Marschke. I'm the Outreach and Development Manager for NAMI Clackamas. This is Scott Taylor. He is the Canby Suicide Prevention person. And then over here is Gally Murray, who is the Clackamas County Suicide Prevention Coordinator. And so what we're gonna talk about is a few of the basics about suicide, some myths, some truths, some facts. There is a trigger warning here, if I can get this, there we go, that we are gonna be talking about suicide. So I wanna make sure that everybody is aware of that. If you need some help or assistance, please do take care of yourself. So the first thing I wanted to talk about is some suicide facts and myths. Number one is one in five people are going to experience a mental health condition in any given year. The most common diagnoses are anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, PTSD, schizophrenia. We're seeing a lot of that. Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and often PTSD or psychosis, and they involve usually auditory and or visual hallucinations. So one in five people, one in 25 is a serious mental illness, and that is one that is often debilitating. A big myth is that children don't experience mental health issues. We're finding that one in six kids between two and eight years old have some sort of mental behavioral or developmental disorder. Most common diagnoses you can see over there, anxiety, depression, ADHD. It's no wonder with everything that's going on, especially in our communities and schools these days, that those are the most common. We're seeing suicidal ideation among children as young as six years old. People with mental health issues are violent and unpredictable, another big myth. The National Threat Assessment Center did a big study and found that there is no barometer. There's no connection between the dangerous acts and mental illness. Does that mean that someone who commits an act like that is not mentally ill? Often they are. But what actually makes them violent is financial stressors almost 3 quarters of the time, unstable housing, which is a product of the first, and some childhood trauma. So it usually is a cover story when people try and blame people with mental illness for other issues that they don't want to talk about. So it is not a fact. In fact, a person with a mental illness is five times more likely to be a victim than they are a perpetrator. So some eye-openers about suicide, more than 12 million people each year having thoughts of suicide. There's 13.7 people per 100,000. That's down from last year, but in Clackamas County it's up. You can see at last count it was 20. Galey might have some more updated statistics, but at last I checked it was 20 per 100,000, significantly higher. The basic reason there is access to the kind of services that they need. 12.7, so you can see it's the second leading cause of death among 15 and 34 year olds. And it basically translates into one suicide every 11 minutes. 12th leading cause of death overall. So what do you think is the average number of people affected by a suicide? Well, our Clackamas County folks at Suicide Prevention did a study, and they actually found, and I guess the numbers were updated because I just heard this morning, but it's actually 140, 135, 140 people affected by a single suicide. That's the ripple effect. We just heard about today the Robin Williams effect, where all of a sudden people say, God, if Robin Williams is going to die by suicide, what chance do I have with all the success that he's had? So 140 people are affected typically by a single suicide. So, how can you help? There's some basic things that you can do. Be aware of some of the dangerous myths. It's not one particular trigger event that causes a suicide typically. It's a cascade of events. Most suicides occur with plenty of warning. It's just that we're not tuned in to pick up on those signs typically. It's not best to avoid the topic suicide. In fact, if you can, you want to use the word suicide if you suspect someone is having suicidal ideation because it removes all judgment pretty much from the table. So you really want to bring up the word if you suspect so. You're not going to plant the seed. Trust me. People who talk about suicide don't do it. Again, that's largely not the case. They'll drop hints. They'll say things. If you're tuned in to pick up on them, you can't. And then the thing that really galls me sometimes is a suicidal person clearly wants to die, and almost nothing could be further from the truth. What a suicidal person wants to do more than anything else is end the pain. That's the physical, emotional, psychological pain, and they can see no way out, which is why intervention can often work. We cannot prevent all suicides, but suicide is the most preventable cause of death. And sometimes all it takes is a little bit of outreach and a little bit of, are you okay? And I'm going to turn this over for a second to Gally to tell her story about, are you okay?

1:50:54 – 1:55:50Speaker 1

Hi, so I'm Gally Murray. I'm the suicide prevention coordinator for the county. Happy to be here tonight. And Gary cued me up to say that he'd be putting me on the spot to tell this story. So the story is really about connection and seeing other people who look like us, just like regular human beings who might be struggling. And the story is I've worked for the county for 22 years. I live in Northeast Portland. I commute on 205 every day. I have a love-hate relationship with 205, especially. And it was a Monday morning. I was driving to work. It was rainy. It was the fall. This was many, many years ago. Every single morning, without fail, I would stop at the Johnson Creek Starbucks. That was my ritual. I was particularly focused on this Monday morning's coffee stop because, A, I hadn't had my coffee. It was really something I was looking forward to. You know, dark and rainy. I had a meeting on the books with my boss. Great boss, but still, you know, Monday. I pull in. The other thing is I would force myself to get out of the car and not go through the drive-through. It was kind of how I started to kind of wake myself up to get ready for work. So pulled up. walked up, walked in, and anybody who's been to the Starbucks knows it's a very, very busy Starbucks, especially in the morning. As I walked up, I could not help but see there was a woman who looked just like all of us, just regular, average human being, who was sitting on a bench right in front of the entrance. She was visibly upset. You couldn't miss it. All the signs and symptoms of somebody who was upset. Hands over her face, crying. And I thought to myself, because I had told you all these things I just told you, I thought to myself, not it. I'm not gonna deal with this right now. This is, if I'm being honest with myself and with you all, this is what I was thinking. Not it, not my responsibility, I'm not on the clock yet. I haven't had my coffee. Someone else will address this woman who is clearly suffering. So I walked in and I got in line at Starbucks. And then I kind of had some self-talk and said, Gally, you know... You have to practice what you preach. And just because you don't want to doesn't mean you shouldn't. And you can't make an assumption that somebody else is going to ask that woman if she's okay. So I went out in the rain without my coffee. I want to emphasize I had not had my coffee yet. And I stood in front of this woman who I did not know from Adam. I stood in front of her and I said... Hi, I know you don't know me at all and I'm a complete stranger to you, but I can't help but notice you seem like you're not okay. And this woman looked at me. She took her hands away from her face. She took her hands away. She had mascara on her face. She clearly had been crying. And she said, you know what? I feel embarrassed that you're saying something to me. I just got some bad news. Someone who was very close to me, I just learned that they passed away. I recognized that being out here on this bench is probably not the best place for me to be. And in my head, I was like, yeah, you're right there. You know, everybody can see you. And I said, I just wanted to check on you and see if you were okay. And she says, I'm okay. I'm having a hard time, but I'm okay. And I started to walk away. And she said, hey, wait a minute. I want you to know something." And I said, what? Because I still hadn't had my coffee. She said, I've been sitting here for a very long time and dozens and dozens and dozens of people have walked in and out of this establishment. And not one person has said anything to me. Not one person has noticed that I am not okay. So I offer that story not to tell you that I am cranky without my caffeine. I offer that story up to you all as a reminder that this work that Gary's talking about, that Scott's gonna talk about, that we do all over, that you all do here in Canby, that we do at the county, this work belongs to all of us. You don't have to be a mental health professional. You don't have to have a whole lot of letters behind your name. You just have to notice other people who might not be okay and know who to call for support. Just like we call 911 and the professionals come to take care of a car accident that might be happening, someone who's having a medical emergency, calling 988. is just, it's the same thing. It's akin to calling 911. 988 is text or call. You literally have professionals at your fingertips. So don't be shy about reaching out. If you see something, say something. And don't assume that someone else will be that person. Because if we all do that, then nobody does it. Back to you, sir.

1:55:51 – 1:59:20Speaker 19

So on the heels of that story, here's a quote from a gentleman who survived a suicide attempt off of the Golden Gate Bridge, and his testimony to exactly what we're talking about in terms of a suicidal person wanting to die. I instantly realized that everything in my life that I thought was unfixable was totally fixable, except for what I'd just done. And so intervention is often the thing that makes the difference. Spotting signs, there's lots of different signs you can spot for people. A lot of people are going to be experiencing that. What you're looking for is that seems to be particularly out of line, seems to be more excessive than would be typical or usual, especially if you know the person. So you're looking for those kinds of behaviors. But what you're also looking for is things like frequency. How frequently does that happen? Does it seem to happen more frequently than it should? Is it more intense than I think it ought to be or than it has been? And is it lasting longer? If any one of those three things is out of whack, it's really time to intervene. It's time to say something. And really, you say something. Are you OK? You actively listen. You're not there to fix the problem. This is a problem that's likely been going on for a long, long time. And that person doesn't see it as being fixable. But they also don't see anybody caring. They see themselves as alone. So you're there to listen with empathy. You call 988 and get the help and advice that you need. You call the suicide prevention line. You call the emergency line, the 655-8585 number, and you get your local CanBe behavioral health specialist to come out with the police department and talk to that person. So there's lots of resources that are there at your disposal that you don't have to be the one that steps in all the time. You can be the one that says, are you okay? Do you mind if I hook you up with some resources? And then you want to stay there with that person if you can, at least until the resources show up. So that's really how you intervene. There's some general guidelines. I'm going to send this slideshow over so that you can all see that if you don't already have it. So stay with the person, call 988, and really assess for immediate danger, both to you and to someone else. You know, the important thing is you need to be safe as well. So you really want to make sure that your safety is paramount, but you also want to check on the safety of the other person. So that's basically it. 988 is it. The one thing you should know about 988 is it's area code specific. What does that mean? That means if you're calling from an area code, whatever your phone is, outside of Oregon, you'll be hooked to that state's hotline. Now, you'll get the same help, the same everything that you would if you called Oregon, but you won't get Oregon resources. So you need to make sure that you alert them to that. Otherwise, it really works. 98% of the calls that have been handled, and after four years, it's millions, probably tens of millions, if not more, of calls. 98% of the calls that are handled now by 988 don't involve police intervention. Think about that. It would have been the other way around, 100%, if it hadn't been for 988. So 988 works, and it's one of the reasons why we're seeing lower suicide attempts and successful suicides among young folks, because they're the ones that are using it. They're using it heavily, especially the text. So it is working. All right? There's local Clackamas County resources. You can see you have Brandon out here. He's your mental health specialist. And these guys do really wonderful, wonderful work, and they're available to you with a phone call. Okay, so what do you think the average time is between the time someone suspects they've got a mental health condition and the time that they look for help? They look for treatment for it.

1:59:21Traci Hensley

I know the answer, so I won't say.

1:59:24 – 2:02:42Speaker 19

Yeah, it's 11 years. That's disgusting. And what is that for? Why is that? That's not about access, although it is difficult. It's not about cost, although that can be prohibitive. It's really about one thing. More than anything else, and that's stigma. And so the way we cure the stigma is by changing our conversation, talking about it, asking the are you okay question. Change our language. Don't refer to the person as their disease. They aren't schizophrenic, they aren't OCD, they aren't any more than they're cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. The sooner we separate the person from the disease, the easier it is to support their recovery. You also don't want to talk about committing suicide. Commit's a very judgmental word in most contexts. Died by suicide, took their own life. Some people say completed suicide. I don't like that one, but whatever works for you. Anything but commit. We really don't want to cast judgment on that. And that allows people to share their stories. Much like the young lady that was here before me shared her story. I mean, it really is very, very compelling and very moving when people share their stories. And you understand that you're not alone, and you understand that recovery is likely. It's more likely you recover from a managed mental health condition than it is from cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. The key is managed, because from a mental health issue, recovery is a process, not an outcome. And that stops the stigma and allows us to maybe cut that 11 years down to 11 weeks someday. So this is what NAMI does, education classes, peer support groups. We have four peer support specialists on staff that are there to help everybody that needs it, family member or individual. We have peer support groups for adults in custody as well as regular mental health classes. Jails have become the new housing for people with mental health issues. There's no supports in the jails and prisons these days. Very few, I shouldn't say none. There was none in Clackamas County Jail until we showed up. We do three mental health classes a week and two support groups every week. We also are starting a post-release support group to really try and reduce recidivism. About 85% of the people in Clackamas County Jail with mental health issues are repeat offenders. We need to reduce that. We also have mental health and intervention training, things that we've done out here, QPR, et cetera. And then ending the silence, which goes into high school classes. And it really is about just that, ending the silence, opening up the conversation. The nice thing is that we're really finding that the conversation's already opened among most of the young folks. They just need some support and some assistance and some guidance. That's what we do. We have two classes coming up that we're still enrolling for. Actually, I think we just closed enrollment for the family-to-family class because it's full. But the peer-to-peer class, which is for individuals with mental health issues, is still open for registration. That's going to be in person in Oregon City starting on September 11th. That's an eight-week class. We also, the best part about all this that I just talked about is it's all no diagnosis, no referral, no insurance, no cost. So everything we do is free, which is why we do things like fundraising, and that'll be in your packet. We've got a great dinner auction coming up. We also have a theater night coming up where you get to see Annie over Thanksgiving weekend downtown. All the revenue goes to us. We also use volunteers on a regular basis, so if you're ever interested in volunteering, please do connect with us. If we can't find you a connection, we'll try and find it elsewhere for you. That's it for me. I'm going to turn it over to Scott, unless anybody's got any specific questions for me.

2:02:44 – 2:04:56Speaker 18

All right, Scott's got a few words to say. Thank you for giving us all this time. I'm Scott Taylor, used to be the mayor, and... Somehow, after we had a tragedy here in town about nine years ago with some youth out on the railroad tracks, the community got together and formed a suicide prevention work group. And that group has slowly shrunk over time council president hensley sits on that group and our primary focus is to try to have some of the conversations gary was just talking about with citizens of canby that's why you see our 988 signs up and thank you very much for uh We are going to have our banner up. This is Suicide Awareness and Prevention Month, September. And so we're going to have a banner up there trying to, and what we've learned, I've been in the corrections, probation, parole world now for 52 years. And what I've learned is I have a variety of friends that are no longer with me because they made a choice. And I often think if I had taken the time, to have a conversation, maybe I could have redirected that. So we really just want people to be open to the conversation, be willing to have a conversation that you've heard about, and we want the people of Cambie to be aware that there is help, and that's why you see the 988 sign. So I really appreciate all the support you've given us, the opportunity to try and reach out, and we are going to probably have another training in October, We're trying to schedule those at least quarterly for anybody to come down and kind of go through it. Gary went through a little slower and we'll spend a little time together. And we think it has an impact. And from some of the people that weigh in afterwards, They appreciate the opportunity to learn how to stop a friend and have a conversation that they might not have otherwise. So thank you very much, Mayor and Council, for letting us come down and use your time. I know there's probably lots of other more important things. I saw Nathan out in the hallway. So thank you very much. This is important. Yes, Council President Inslee. Thank you.

2:04:56 – 2:06:09Traci Hensley

I just want to thank you, Scott, and Gary and Gally for coming and taking the time to spend, educate a little bit to the community. And thank you, Scott, for stepping onto our board. I'm the last OG member of this task force, which I like the word coalition better, so we're going to go with that from now on. Yeah, the youth back then, they were close friends of my daughter's, and so I was happy to step up, if happy is the wrong word, I suppose, but compelled to step up and try and do something. And I feel like we have made a difference. And we've got curriculum in the school now. And I feel like we have made a difference. Suicides touched my family more times than I care to count. And I feel for anybody in the community who's had to deal with that. So I commend you for stepping up with us and thank you for your help. And Gary and Gally, your guys' partnership with us, very much appreciated. So this is a hard month for me, but it's a much, much... needed conversation. So I hope that our community hears us this month. Thank you guys again.

2:06:13 – 2:06:27Brian Hodson

Thank you all very, very much. Yeah. And with, you know, Scott, it's, this is an important piece for sure. So it's not, you can take up as much time as you need with this topic. So anytime. Thank you. Thank you all.

2:06:30Speaker 19

Well, now that we've depressed the whole room, we'll leave. Yeah.

2:06:36Brian Hodson

Next on the agenda is our consent agenda.

2:06:39Traci Hensley

If someone wants to... Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve that consent agenda that includes the approval of July 22nd, 2026 City Council Meeting Minutes.

2:06:48 – 2:08:46Brian Hodson

Second. Motion has been made by Council President Hensley and seconded by Councilor Davis to approve The consent agenda, which include the July 22nd, 2026 City Council meeting minutes. Any comment or questions? All those in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? Seeing none, that passes 5-0. Next on the agenda this evening are ordinances and resolutions. Item A is a calendar of second readings. So something we've started doing when we have second readings, we look at them collectively and approve them through just a single reading. So the community knows. Ordinance number 1677 authorizing the interim city administrator to enter into a cooperative meeting improvement agreement between the City of Canby and Apex in the amount of $1.952 million for the UV disinfection UV project. Ordinance number 1678, authorizing the interim city administrator to execute an extension on the contract with Summit staff for our pool. Consider number 1679, an ordinance authorizing the city administrator to enter into our purchase agreement with Owen Equipment in the amount of $442,812 to purchase a new street sweeper. Consider, sorry, ordinance number 1680, an ordinance authorizing the city administrator to execute a contract with Pacific Excavation Incorporated in the amount of $1,011,230 for the Highway 99E and Walnut Intersection project, which will lead to the completion of Walnut Street. So those are the four items in the calendar slate. Any comments, questions, or are we backing any out for further conversation? Council Member Waterman?

2:08:48Speaker 10

I believe we had some information coming back about some reference checks.

2:08:54 – 2:10:42Speaker 6

Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, Council, Council Waterman, thank you for the question. On ordinance number... 1680, an ordinance authorizing interim city administrator to execute a contract with Pacifica Excavation Inc. in the amount of one million for the Highway 99E Walnut Intersection project. Spencer is here tonight with me. Spencer and I both personally based on the recommendation from counsel at our last meeting, did background checks to deem, to make sure, in fact, from our perspective, that the contractor met the lowest responsible bidder qualifications. In my staff report, we listed about a dozen that are contractually, through our legal counsel, that they need to meet as a contractor. And most of them are like having a business license and agreeing to all the terms and conditions, very boilerplate items. And so Spencer and I went to work. We called our sources and we have deemed them the lowest responsible bidder with no marks against their contractor's business license number or with the Better Business Bureau. The city's engineer of record, which is McKay, formerly Kurt McCloud, has done multiple projects with Pacific Excavation in the past, and McKay says that they have a very good working relationship with the contractor and endorses the company's work. And lastly, we spoke to the city of Springfield as a reference with their public works department, and they gave a great review of Pacific X, saying we don't have to worry about any of their jobs and prefer them as a contractor.

2:10:46Traci Hensley

Mr. Mayor, unless there's any objection to 1680, I would move that we adopt ordinances number 1677, 1678, 1679, and 1680, titles already read. Roll call vote. Second. Second.

2:11:11 – 2:11:22Brian Hodson

The motion has been made by Council President Hensley and seconded by Councilor Patton to approve the calendar of second readings. Any further question or comment? Roll call vote.

2:11:23Speaker 21

Councilor Patton.

2:11:25Speaker 21

Council President Hensley. Aye. Councilor Davis.

2:11:30Speaker 21

Councilor Stearns.

2:11:32Speaker 21

Councilor Waterman.

2:11:33 – 2:12:01Speaker 6

Aye. motion carries 5-0 yes mr. mayor final comment a lot of our leadership teams in the room tonight this is a very large and important consent agenda tonight the biggest since I've been working for you so I want to thank the leadership team there's nearly four million dollars of work in this consent this action you vote you just took so on behalf of our staff thank you I think we thank you guys for

2:12:03 – 2:12:41Brian Hodson

moving these projects forward to get them completed and I know there's more on deck so appreciate your leadership and the directors for pushing forward to move these along for our city so thank you guys and also for delving in when we ask you for more info you guys have been great about that thank you Item B, ordinance number 1681, an ordinance authorizing the city administrator to purchase one police vehicle for the Canby Police Department in the amount of $54,665.49. Mr. Ely, I think that's you.

2:12:41 – 2:13:09Speaker 6

Yes, Mr. Mayor, Council, Chief Jose Gonzalez is here. As the staff report reflects, this is the second vehicle that was in the budget for purchase. They're going to rotate out an old Odyssey van, and this is the purchase price, but there will be another $10,000 or $15,000 to outfit the car that needs to be spent. all of which is under the budget. Anything else, Chief, that you'd like?

2:13:09Speaker 7

This privacy stay bed that we got. So cars now, they're pretty close to $50,000 or $50,000 anymore. So that is where we're at now.

2:13:20Brian Hodson

So this is replacing an existing one, not replacing one that's recently gone through some bumper cars maybe?

2:13:27Speaker 7

Yeah. No, this one is to replace a car, a vehicle. Okay. It needs to be rotated out.

2:13:37Brian Hodson

Yes, Councilor Pratt.

2:13:39 – 2:13:54Speaker 4

So along those lines of the bumper car incident, are those vehicles repaired? Are they still in operation? I never really heard how badly they got smashed up.

2:13:54 – 2:14:11Speaker 7

They got damaged pretty good, but all the cars were saved, basically repaired, which has saved us a lot of money. Once the car is totaled, you know how insurance works. They only pay you partial amounts, so we oftentimes lose money on that. So all the cars were repaired.

2:14:12Speaker 4

And was it on the person who crashed them's insurance, or did we pay that?

2:14:18 – 2:14:32Speaker 7

Well, partially the car is, it was a juvenile that crashed a car. She took the car from the boyfriend, so boyfriend, they have insurance. So it's complicated.

2:14:33Speaker 7

So we'll try to do the best we can in our insurance company, CIS, but we'll go after them. Great. Thank you.

2:14:40Traci Hensley

So it's still a work in progress is what you're saying? Work in progress, yeah.

2:14:43Brian Hodson

Everything's work in progress.

2:14:45Traci Hensley

Okay. Well, thank you for keeping on that.

2:14:48Brian Hodson

Okay. Any other questions for Chief?

2:14:52Brian Hodson

Okay. I'll take a motion.

2:14:54 – 2:15:10Speaker 9

Mr. Mayor, I move to approve ordinance number 1681, an ordinance authorizing the city administrator to purchase one Ford Expedition 4x4 from Russian Ford in the amount of $54,665.49 to a second reading on September 16, 2026. Second. Thank you.

2:15:18 – 2:16:32Brian Hodson

a motion made by Councillor Davis and seconded by Councillor Patton to approve ordinance number 1681, an ordinance authorizing the City Administrator to purchase one Ford Expedition 4x4 from Gresham Ford in the amount of $54,655.49 to a second reading on September 16th, 2026. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? That carries 5-0. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Item C is ordinance number 1682, an ordinance authorizing the interim city administrator to execute amendment number two to the professional services agreement with Scott Edwards Architecture, LLP, for the Canby Swim Center remodel and increasing the current agreement by $57,700, maintaining a cumulative project limit of $249,000. $999 for all SEA services and extending the agreement through April 1st, 2027. And Nathan Templeton. Hello, sir.

2:16:32 – 2:17:13Speaker 2

Hello. So I guess looking back, this project started, I believe, in 2020. And the terms on the procurement rules were different than what we're working with now. And so that is partially why we need to revisit this. And then, of course, the project is crept, right? I think when it first was presented to you guys, there was an activity room associated with it, and it has just changed over time and time. So now we are near the home stretch, and that'll be our next item on the agenda. And we just need to get over the finish line with these guys.

2:17:13Brian Hodson

All right. We've got, so we're at that point, it's construction point, we're through the design and...

2:17:23 – 2:17:35Speaker 2

Correct. There will still be some design work that, you know, as we get into the value engineering and so on. But yes, our next item will be the contract itself. Well, I should say the construction itself.

2:17:35Brian Hodson

Okay. Any questions for staff?

2:17:40 – 2:17:51Speaker 10

Yes, Paul. I'm a little trying to understand, we're getting an increase, but then maintaining the cumulative part, so we're saying just a portion of it's increasing, but overall total, the price isn't changing?

2:17:53Speaker 2

That is not correct. So the total is increasing.

2:17:57 – 2:18:42Speaker 6

Okay. Yes. Yeah. Well, Mayor? Yes. Council Waterman, on page 224 of your packet and 225 is my staff report. You probably have it in front of you. Essentially what we're doing here and finances in the house as well in the council chambers is, The procurement rules in Canby over the past six years have iterations of updates. We cannot spend over $250,000 on a contract without going out for a formal RFP. So this bump that we're asking for tonight gets us up to $249,000 in the last six years. Okay, maintaining and staying under the limit.

2:18:42Speaker 10

Yeah, correct.

2:18:43Speaker 6

Okay, I understand.

2:18:48Brian Hodson

Yes, Councilor Patton.

2:18:50 – 2:19:17Speaker 4

Mr. Mayor, I move to approve ordinance number 1682, authorizing the interim city administrator to execute amendment number two to the professional service agreement with Scott Edwards Architect LLP for the Canby Swim Center remodel, increasing the current agreement by 50%. $57,700 maintaining a cumulative project limit of $249,999 for all SEA services and extending the agreement through April 1st, 2027 to a second reading on September 16th, 2026. Great.

2:19:37 – 2:20:24Brian Hodson

All right, motions has been made by Councilor Patton and seconded by Councilor Waterman to approve ordinance number 1682, authorizing the interim city administrator to execute amendment number two to the professional services agreement with Scott Edwards Architecture LLP for the Cambie Swim Center remodel, increasing the current agreement by $57,700 and maintaining a cumulative project limit of $249,999 for all SEA services and extending the agreement through April 1st, 2027 and to us for a second reading on September 16th, 2026. Any further discussion or comment? All those in favor?

2:20:26 – 2:20:58Brian Hodson

Anyone opposed? Abstention? We're good. Thank you. Item D, we're going to build on that. So 1683, an ordinance authorizing the interim city administrator to execute a construction contract with Inline Commercial Construction Incorporated doing business as Inline for the Canby Swim Center remodel in the amount of $1,000,000. $244,837.44 and declaring an emergency. Again, that's Interim State Manager E and Mr. Templeman.

2:21:10 – 2:21:48Speaker 2

sure I think you guys have all been through the various iterations on you know how we've arrived here today and I'm pleased to say that we do finally have you know plans and a contractor selected for your approval I don't really know what else to say here we have The various terms are straightforward here. I think it's very much what was already presented to you guys in previous council meetings. I think I wasn't a part of it at that time, but you guys had a nice presentation from Eric and SEA.

2:21:54 – 2:22:23Speaker 6

Thanks, Nathan. Very well said. Mayor, Council, you've been living this and brought it to life, and here we are. We're ready to move forward. We will, I'll just say as staff, Nathan and the architects are going to work on some value engineering. So they'll be looking at just how broad the scope might be, what all we want to accomplish with this not to exceed amount in the bid. Questions? Comments?

2:22:25Brian Hodson

Question? Yeah.

2:22:27Speaker 9

Again, the company that's doing the work, can you give a little bit of background on the company? Sure.

2:22:37 – 2:23:15Speaker 2

First of all, our design team has done extensive work with them and speaks very highly of them. I believe they're based in Wilsonville, but they have multiple principals who live here in Canby. In fact, one of their owners, I believe you guys know, Trigba Berg, who was on the council. I believe he was appointed 2019 to fulfill Tracy Heights' position. So deep Canby connections, very good references, both from other cities and from the design firm that we're working with.

2:23:16Brian Hodson

And this company is also doing the work on the new building for the event center. Oh, very good. Yeah.

2:23:28Brian Hodson

Mr. Patten, a motion.

2:23:29 – 2:24:01Speaker 4

Yeah, I move to approve the first reading of ordinance number 1683, authorizing interim city administrator to execute a construction contract with Inline Commercial Construction Incorporated, DBA Inline, for the Canby Swim Center remodel in an amount not to exceed $1,244,837.44. and advance the ordinance to second reading on September 16th, 2026 and declaring an emergency.

2:24:02 – 2:24:39Brian Hodson

Thank you. Second. Thank you. Motion made by Councillor Patton and seconded by Councillor Davis to approve ordinance number 1683, authorizing the interim city administrator execute a construction contract with Inline Commercial Construction Incorporated, DBA Inline for the Canby Swim Center remodel in the amount not to exceed $1,244,837.44 and advance the ordinance to a second reading on September 16th, 2026 and declaring an emergency. Any further discussion? Yes, Councillor Stearns.

2:24:40Speaker 20

What's the emergency?

2:24:41 – 2:24:59Speaker 6

Great question. He beat you to it. We did. Yes, sir. Mayor, Council, we know that it is the pleasure of the Council to avoid declaring emergencies in these ordinances. I'm going to let Nathan speak to the reason why we opted to do that and brought this with an emergency class.

2:24:59 – 2:26:00Speaker 2

Yeah, so a Originally, we were hoping to have started this on the 31st, so Monday. And the contract allowed 81 days to complete. And that 81 days was specifically because high school swimming starts on November 16th. And as you guys know, we are on school district property. So it was our intention to do everything possible to create the least amount of disruption to that. Moreover, obviously, spring and summer are very busy times for us. Winter, having the high school season, fall is really the least disruptive time for us to perform this work. As you can see, we are already behind that schedule, and we are hoping to avoid another 30 days beyond the 16th of September to minimize disruption for our patrons and for our landlord.

2:26:05Brian Hodson

Okay. Works for me. Does that work for you as well, Counselor?

2:26:09Traci Hensley

I just like the explanation of it. I know you do.

2:26:11Brian Hodson

Thank you. All right. Great. Without any questions, all those in favor?

2:26:16 – 2:26:41Brian Hodson

Aye. Anyone opposed? Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Next on the agenda is ordinance number 1684, an ordinance authorizing myself, Mayor Hudson, to enter into an interim city administrator employment agreement between the City of Canby and Randy Ely for our first reading.

2:26:42Traci Hensley

You, the one that's not talking? Yes, me. You want to do the negotiations when you...

2:26:51 – 2:28:23Speaker 17

Pete, how are you? Mayor, members of the council, do you want me to go over, just highlight some of the key changes in the contract? So just a rough, most of the contract language stays very similar to the previous interim contracts. Some key changes are the effect, obviously the contract will be effective immediately upon signing. And it goes to June 30th of 2028, which is a roughly 21, 21.5 month extension on his current contract. Some changes in terms of salary and benefits. So there is a slight increase in the compensation, monthly compensation, an annual salary, what's in my notes there, to 16,500 per month, which more aligns with what the current city administrators are earning around Clackamas County and similar like-minded cities. The city will cover medical, will provide medical coverage upon this contract. The interim city administrator will be eligible for cost of the COLA, cost of living increases each year. a deferred compensation and then be eligible to receive the 55 administrative hours that the rest of the management team receives each year annually. So. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

2:28:24Brian Hodson

Questions for Mr. Wood?

2:28:27 – 2:30:27Speaker 9

Comments? Yes. Thank you, Mayor. And I wanted to thank Pete. We spent quite a bit of time reviewing old interim or old city administrator contracts. And Pete was very diligent in regards to bringing in comparables as we looked at costs. for the amount for the salary and for compensation, all total compensation. And it has gone through legal counsel as well, has been reviewed by legal counsel. And then we had a final review with Pete and the mayor and myself, spent some time reviewing the document that was prepared by legal counsel as we move forward with this. So there was actually quite a bit of thought and work put together on this. With that said, I think it's important to maintain our continuity. I personally feel that Randy has been doing an excellent job as our city administrator. He has made the connections within our community, which people who live in Cambie know how important that is. you're building relationships out there. And I'm really amazed with the amount of relationships that Mr. Ely has made within our community already. But more importantly, I'm impressed with the leadership of Mr. Ely with staff and staff is doing an outstanding job in regards to obviously by looking by resolution and ordinances that are moving forward and just what's happening out in the community speaks highly to Mr. Ely and the leadership within our management team here at the city too. So I highly recommend that we approve this.

2:30:27 – 2:32:12Brian Hodson

I will add, I received a number of emails this week and last week about this topic and A couple of emails wanted to address like, well, why do we as a council not just make Mr. Ely the permanent city administrator? And there's really two reasons that prevent that. One, he has to want to take the position permanently. So that's number one. Number two is because of our city charter, it requires the city administrator to live within the city limits of Canby. And so right now, Randy does not, sorry, Mr. Ely does not live within the city limits of Canby. So that precludes that process to move forward in that fashion. So for right now, I think to Councillor Davis's points and Mr. Ely and I have had those conversations that yes, there's the continuity piece. There are a lot of things moving. It does not mean that we, We need to sit back and wait on the city administrator search. I think that's important for us to be tackling here in the new year. Start looking at that because we are not the only city looking for city administrators and it's not the deepest pool but we want to get a good candidate and that's why we extended the contract to be able to take our time and do the due diligence that we need to do. So yes, Mr. Lee, you've been doing a great job. We appreciate your leadership and what you've managed to accomplish in the time that you've been in the role. So thank you very much. So if there's no other question, I'll take a motion. Oh, sorry. Yes, Councillor Waterman.

2:32:13Speaker 10

We're still on track for the November, getting the charter?

2:32:19 – 2:32:54Brian Hodson

Yes. On the ballot? Thank you, yes. We have put forward in the ballot coming up and when that gets published, but we as a council have moved forward with changing, putting that on the ballot to change the amendment to change that charter. charter piece about having the city administrator live within the city limits. So if that is something that citizens want to change, then they'll be able to vote and make that change. So thank you for bringing that up. Appreciate it. Yes, Council President.

2:32:54Traci Hensley

I just wanted to clarify. Did I hear you say June of 2028 for the contract?

2:33:03 – 2:33:21Traci Hensley

And next year is the 27th. So the November election is this year, 26th. I'm just wondering why we're going out a year plus, a year and a half almost. That's my only question is why aren't we going to wait to see what the voters have to say? That's all I wanted to know.

2:33:22 – 2:34:19Speaker 9

Go ahead. I'll go ahead and speak to that. We had that discussion. There's many, many projects that are currently on the table that the city administrator is moving forward. We had to anticipate that if this were to not pass in November, then the City Council would have to make a decision as to whether or not they want to put that on in front of the voters again in regards to a vote to change the charter. But meanwhile, it builds continuity of the leadership here within the city to fulfill those projects that need to be completed and felt that June of 28 was the appropriate date to put in there. And it will be here before we know it. It goes very fast. Councilor Stearns.

2:34:19 – 2:34:41Speaker 20

I'm just going to mention this because I think it needs to be said in public, but Randy, you don't live in the city of Canby. Has you living out of the city of Canby ever inhibited you from responding to things that may happen, like in the middle of the night? I'm sure nothing happens in the middle of the night in Canby.

2:34:42 – 2:35:11Speaker 6

I'm on 24-7. It's a nice, about a 15-minute commute down Boone's Ferry, the back roads. I get here really quickly. Woodburn, from Woodburn to Canby. Nothing's prevented me. There is a bridge coming into Canby if that was out, but I have my cell phone, so I'd still be in touch with you, as I always am with each of you.

2:35:12Speaker 20

Okay, thank you. I just, because I think that's the idea of having lived in Canby is to be able to respond to things as they happen.

2:35:20 – 2:35:38Speaker 6

As you know, your school superintendent and your Canby fire chief both live in other cities, not Canby at the moment. And they're pretty responsive to Canby issues. Both of them are fantastic Canby employees. Thank you. In my opinion.

2:35:39 – 2:36:03Speaker 9

Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, are you ready for a motion? I believe so. I don't think there's any other questions or comments, so go for it. Okay, Mr. Mayor, I move to approve ordinance number 1684, an ordinance authorizing Mayor Hodson to enter into an interim city administrator employment agreement between the city of Canby and Randy Eli to a second reading on September 16th, 2026. Second.

2:36:08 – 2:36:33Brian Hodson

Motion to be made by Councillor Davis and seconded by Councillor Waterman to approve Ordinance 1684, an ordinance authorizing myself, Mayor Hudson, to enter into an interim City Administrator Employment Agreement between the City of Canby and Randy Ely to a second reading on September 16, 2026. Any further discussion? Yes, Councillor. Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2:36:33 – 2:38:38Speaker 4

I just wanted to take this opportunity to go into the Wayback Machine and remember when we had our conversation about needing to pick an interim city administrator. And of the three candidates, I strongly felt that Mr. Ely would be the best fit. And I am glad that I advocated for him at that point in time. I think the work that he has done when he came on board, the city was in a tremendous amount of turmoil. And I would say that his depth and breadth of knowledge and his expertise in the various administrative roles that he's had in his career had pulled the city back from the brink of something that could have been much worse. I strongly agree with this extended contract. I do want to make it very clear to the residents of Canby that I don't want them to see this as some way of skirting around the rules leading up to the city charter question that we are opposing to you out there in TV land. If it was a different situation, I would probably advocate for a shorter contract, but I think that there is still a lot of work that needs to be done. The train is back on the tracks, but it is not quite up to speed and the tracks still need fixing. And I think regardless of what happens in November, we will jump that We will cross that bridge when it happens, but I think going out for a process now or in the near future would undermine much of the work that Randy has been able to accomplish and upset the delicate balance that has been struck at this point in time. So that's why I'm very pleased to see this come out of the subcommittee that negotiated this. Okay, thank you.

2:38:39 – 2:39:05Brian Hodson

Any other comment? No? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That carries 5-0. Pete, thank you very much. All right. Item 8 this evening, other business. Regional Infrastructure Fund for Oregon's Small Communities. So permission to apply is the purpose of the letter, and I think Randy and Patrick is here as well.

2:39:05 – 2:39:54Speaker 6

Patrick's here. Come on up, Patrick. Two weeks in a row. You're popular. I'm getting to be known. I'm looking at my packet here. The governor's office released an opportunity for small cities to apply for regional infrastructure dollars. And Representative Bunch called and said, hey, I'd like to help advocate and also for Canby Utility for water. If you guys want to make an application, I'm happy to do a letter of support. I don't apply for grants or write letters, statewide legislative type letters, without asking permission from the mayor and the council. So that's why we're here. We do have a $2 million UV project that you just approved tonight.

2:39:55Speaker 5

and we can ask for up to 50% grant.

2:39:58 – 2:40:29Speaker 6

Now that is a lot of the 10 million, I recognize that. A few of your brother and sister cities are making applications for this as well, in Sandy, Molalla, Estacada. So I imagine it'll be fairly competitive, but don't get anything if you don't ask, right? So Patrick, anything else you wanted to add to how this would help? It would buy down the cost of the work. We could put deploy towards other projects at the wastewater treatment plant, your dewatering project, which is next, but go ahead.

2:40:29 – 2:41:08Speaker 16

Yeah, absolutely. With the scale of these projects changing and the prices going up, going up for these grants is getting more important so we can offset the capacity expansion that we're doing. because we didn't exactly plan on this with the master plan back in 2020, I believe. So going out for these grants is just gonna be more critical to make sure we can afford these projects going forward. Same with the dewatering project coming up. There's a possibility of us needing to expand out the building and cost goes up pretty quick. So we're just gonna be continuing to go looking for grants and whatever kind of money's out there for this. So, yeah.

2:41:09 – 2:41:30Speaker 6

Great. I do not have a draft letter prepared. It got sidetracked today. I would like to maybe ask for permission to circulate a letter that you all would agree to sign electronically. And Tracy and I, sorry, Teresa and I can work on that tomorrow. Yes, Counselor.

2:41:32Speaker 9

I'm comfortable with just running this through you and the Mayor and get the Mayor's approval. That works as well. Thank you.

2:41:42Speaker 6

I agree. I think that's fine.

2:41:44Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you.

2:41:46Speaker 6

Works for me. Okay. I'll circulate a final. Okay.

2:41:51 – 2:42:02Brian Hodson

We'll work through that. So consensus to move forward with Randy and I creating that letter and getting that into the hands of the application on this. Okay.

2:42:03Speaker 4

Get the money.

2:42:04Brian Hodson

We need the money. Get the money. Easy. You're doing well.

2:42:08Speaker 4

I've been doing very well.

2:42:10Brian Hodson

I know. You're almost there.

2:42:11Speaker 4

It's still early. We've still got time.

2:42:14 – 2:42:33Brian Hodson

I think we're good on that. We'll get it drafted and we'll get it in. Right? Too sad. The worst that they can say is no. So, all right. Perfect. Thank you all. Appreciate that. And, you know, Randy and I will get to work on that. Great. Item 9, City Administrator Business and Staff Report.

2:42:38 – 2:43:02Speaker 6

Mr. Mayor, I ask the pleasure of the council, given the remaining items and the time, a discussion amongst yourselves on how you'd like to spend the last 45 minutes. We, under Mayor's business, have LOC priorities listed, and I have a report, an update I can give, plus there's council comments and liaison reports, so... the pleasure of you, Mr. Mayor, and the council?

2:43:03 – 2:43:15Brian Hodson

Well, the ILC priorities piece is not fully baked for conversation tonight, so we're going to table that until our next meeting on the 16th. So you have the gift of time.

2:43:15Traci Hensley

It's also very early in the month, so I don't know about the rest of y'all, but we don't have much to say, I don't think, on the 2nd of September, so we'd rather hear from you, I think. Oh, stop.

2:43:26Brian Hodson

So, Mr. City Administrator, the floor is yours. Okay. Plus, this gives us time to think and ask you questions.

2:43:37 – 2:44:03Speaker 6

Yeah. Really excited. Spencer, I don't want to put Spencer on the spot, but Spencer is here, and he's overseeing the Walnut Project, which is very exciting, Walnut Street. We can speak to where that's at and its process, if you'd like an update on that. I would love that. Very visual, high-profile project, and Got asked about it again today by a citizen. So curbs and gutters are in?

2:44:05 – 2:44:45Speaker 5

Yes, curb and gutters are in. There were some few water leaks that were repaired after they got all the pipes in and doing the pressure testing. Talking with them, we are working on penciling in exactly when paving will happen, weather dependent on what all they have. It's looking like we might be able to do that here in the next couple of weeks. Wow. next couple weeks. Isn't that amazing? Weather dependent. The weather this week kind of threw a little bit of a wrench into what they had planned, so if it shapes up and everything keeps going, we could see it here shortly.

2:44:45Brian Hodson

So this paving is not dependent on the project that we approved for this evening?

2:44:52 – 2:45:16Speaker 5

No, this would just be paving from First Avenue, Southeast First Avenue over by OLCC and Columbia up to about 50 feet away from the highway, which is in their contract where they would stop. And then, as it happens, is that it's the same sub for paving on both projects. Okay. Perfect.

2:45:16Speaker 10

Councilor Wyman?

2:45:18 – 2:45:36Speaker 5

So after the paving, what else is left to do for that contract? There would still be franchise utilities, so any of the power... northwest natural gas, anything like that that's outside of the roadways, they'd be working on that, and then sidewalks.

2:45:39Speaker 9

Councilor Prado.

2:45:41Speaker 4

And so there'll be sidewalks on both sides for the whole stretch of that road, or are we waiting to put the sidewalks in as things develop?

2:45:52Speaker 5

It's been a minute since I've looked at the plans. I think there are some areas where sidewalks are going to be dependent on development.

2:46:01 – 2:46:43Brian Hodson

That would seem to make sense, depending on how things go. Okay. Spencer, I know you've been wearing a number of hats, and you've been doing it with tremendous leadership and grace, and I just want to say thank you for that. It's not every day that you tackle what you tackle, so thank you to you and your team for... picking this up and really sprinting with it to get us to this point. So I'm very excited. I know this has been something that we, well, for me, I'm very excited about seeing this get done. I know there's a lot on the council here that feel the same way. So thank you for staying after it and doing the work that you're doing.

2:46:43Speaker 5

So great job. Thank you. And I do want to put as much praise to everybody else down at Public Works. There's no way I could do it without them.

2:46:52Traci Hensley

They're a great team.

2:46:53Speaker 5

They're a good team.

2:46:54 – 2:47:28Speaker 6

Thank you, sir. One more. Not all news is wonderful, perfect news. So Spencer's brought to my attention that the South Ivy project, beautiful project, there's a little bit of a structural defect going on that Spencer's gonna work on. Still investigating, but I wanted to put that out there in the universe that We want perfect, great Canby streets, so we might have to get after a bit of a sinkage in one area, would you call it, based on a previous defect years ago?

2:47:28 – 2:48:11Speaker 5

Yeah. I don't know if everyone has noticed it yet, but there was a... depression and sinkhole that appears to be forming from leftover from the sanitary sewer project that was done on South Ivy five years ago now. And unfortunately, there is now a sinkhole in the new road. And so instead of just going and doing a single spot repair, we're going to hold ourselves to the same kind of standards that we would hold anybody else if they cut the road. So it'll be a little bit more of an intensive fix and a larger fix than what is probably right there. But with that being a new road, I want to make sure that it rides nice. Okay.

2:48:12Speaker 9

Whereabouts is it, Spencer?

2:48:14Speaker 5

It is just north of South... third on the northbound line.

2:48:22 – 2:48:40Brian Hodson

Okay. So now let me rephrase. No, I'm just kidding. Stop. It happens. I'm glad that we're catching it now and not after it craters and we have a bigger problem to deal with. I appreciate Spencer bringing that to our attention. Not bearing.

2:48:40Speaker 5

The things we deal with, right? There's nobody that is more upset over this than me.

2:48:46Traci Hensley

I don't doubt that.

2:48:47 – 2:49:54Speaker 6

Catch. Thank you, sir. I got to experience Friday night out, and Jamie and Tyler here wanna give them a ton of credit with the business owners downtown. I know you all probably talk a little bit about it later tonight too, but to see that through my eyes for the first time, it really brought to light how special your city is. And I can't say enough about, Just how many people were out having a good time, how safe it was with the security. The police department was there. Ran into a bunch of people in the audience tonight. So great job. That's a signature event that you guys should 100% anchor on, in my opinion. It brands your city nicely. You got the fire truck with the American flag coming down and live music and plenty of food. Jamie, anything else you wanted to add? Home run, I said. I was talking about it Monday morning in the office right when you walked in. I said, can you do it two or three times? And she almost tackled me and said, don't ever say those words again.

2:49:55Speaker 15

Don't say that again.

2:49:57Speaker 6

Her first night.

2:49:58Speaker 1

Her first night.

2:49:59Brian Hodson

There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

2:50:04 – 2:50:42Brian Hodson

Don't want to ruin the specialness of it, right? No, when you and I talked on Monday, yeah, you were very complimentary and very, like, holy smokes, I can't believe. So, I mean, I talked a little bit about the history of that event and how it came to be and how much it's grown to what it is and continue to add to it. So, yeah, so... Is Tyler still sitting there? No. But yeah, I mean the downtown business between Backstop and Ebner's and FOB and all the other businesses and then, you know, Jamie, you really working to get this off the ground. So yeah, it's definitely a signature event for Camby.

2:50:45 – 2:51:51Speaker 6

So I want to let you know that I'm tracking a budget meeting. So Denise and I are going to be working with your calendars to target a budget committee follow-up meeting once their numbers are ratified or calibrated for how they came in on the end of the fiscal year. And then We have a larger discussion on the same night, hopefully, with some revenue trends, five-year forecasting, things that you've been asking for, and the budget committee. We'll be reaching out to have that conversation with you all down on the floor here in October. Denise and I picked, I think we've picked a regular council meeting date that works. I've got some vacation plans scheduling conflicts on a couple upcoming meetings, so I'm staying away from those so you all can take a bit of a break. But budget's on the mind with myself and finance and that's coming soon. Councillor Patton.

2:51:52Speaker 6

Yes. Counselor.

2:51:54Speaker 4

And I'm not sure if we've gotten an update on this, but the audit is going to be, is it done? It's going to be on time this year? Anything to that point?

2:52:04Traci Hensley

It will be on time.

2:52:05Speaker 4

It will be on time. Great.

2:52:06Traci Hensley

It's in process.

2:52:07Speaker 4

Awesome. Thank you.

2:52:12 – 2:54:17Speaker 6

Um, police chief is here, and interim police chief, technically, but I call him chief, and, uh, created a vacancy in the captain, uh, structure, so, uh, chief and I are working on filling that. And then we're, um, gonna, about to approve a final brochure for public works director. and give Spencer a break from doing three jobs and trying to get somebody in there. So I'll have you all take a look at the brochure before it goes out. Thank you for doing the interviews and emails, survey. I appreciate the council and mayor participating in a city administrative hire process because it's a critical position for Canby and really appreciate it. all of your updates. We're looking at trying to, you guys approved during budget, project management services and procurement services. So Denise and I and the team are efforting on those fronts to try and get pools of engineers that we can call on in the city. I think you did that a few years back, but those expired. So well done. There was a team of like three or four engineers that you could pick from based on what the specialty of the project was. So we'll be looking to do all three of those things I just regurgitated at the same time. So we'll be very busy bringing you guys ordinances and resolutions on those fronts soon. Okay. Yeah, I think I'll take a breath and if you have any questions on anything else going on around town that we're working on. I had coffee for an hour and a half today with the school superintendent. We're working on scheduling an October meeting with their board and city council. So making progress on that front. Great. Perfect. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

2:54:21 – 2:54:48Brian Hodson

All right. Well, then we'll go into mayor's business. I don't have too much. Today was Fiber Day at DirectLink. So just some interesting... our local provider, DirectLink, or KB Telecom, for many. Now I'm trying to find my...

2:54:50Traci Hensley

You lost your note.

2:54:51 – 2:59:32Brian Hodson

I may have lost mine. Oh, there it is. So what's coming to conclusion for Camby, for DirectLink, I almost said Camby Telecom, is a $50 million fiber project. And so as of today, there is, between the city of Camby and, and Mount Angel, thank you, there are 24 homes that do not have fiber in the Mount Angel area. So everyone in Direct Link's service area of Cambie officially has fiber. So it's a huge, like I said, $50 million project that they've been working on since around 2012. At that point, 25% of Cambie was served with fiber. And so to have this accomplishment is pretty huge. They started with a $39 million ask of the board at the time and have been able to, you know, obviously projects balloon and things get bigger and cities grow and so to have it go to $50 million And they only did a $6 million loan to begin the project. So pretty phenomenal work for Direct Link to be, so Direct Link being a co-op, and so we, the citizens of Canby, we pay into that. We own Direct Link. And so they, for the last couple of, well, forever, have been rolling the money back into expanding service. And they also announced that they'll be doing another pay out to the residents of Cambie here later this year from the profit sharing piece that the co-op provides. So now every home and business, every home, business, school, and farm within Direct Link Service Area has fiber service here in Cambie and Mount Angel. You know, and I think the biggest piece, and Ray Keane was there and spoke, the biggest thing I think we can all talk about with DirectLink is their community involvement and how much they give back every year to our community. And I think this is a huge... A huge statement was Ray Keane shared that Camby Telecom, direct link, ran for their new building for the Together Camby ran three miles of fiber in the building, provided the terminals and the labor cost at no charge to Together Camby. So that's a huge testament to them as an organization to Paul, the CEO of the company, to do what they do. So it was great to be there, to be a part of that. They had representatives from a couple of national organizations. national and international broadband boards and organizations there to celebrate as well, and so they weren't planning on a rainy day for their, you know, fiber day, but they made lemonade with the lemons they were given, so it was really a great, great event. The Clapper's County Coordinating Committee is not until tomorrow, so I'll have an update at the next meeting. The Region 1 Area Commission on Transportation that I'm on meets in September. So we are in September later this month. So I will report on that. It is back to school time. So I think chief has stepped out, but yeah, you know, they patrols are out in forest and school zones and areas. So please watch your speed, watch the kiddos, especially today and yesterday or today and the next couple of days as the roads are slick with the new rain. Just lower your speed in the school zones please. And then I want to thank the Canby businesses, staff, Public Works, all the citizens for the street dance. I was not able to attend. It was my my son is a senior this year and so I had obligations at a football game but I heard it was I could hear the music outside the stadium after it was done and So again, another great event from all the feedback that I heard. And then thank you to Cuthbert for the cruise in. 600 registered cars, but I heard, what was the sign? 780 cars in our downtown.

2:59:34Brian Hodson

That's pretty impressive. So if you missed it, you have to wait until next year, I guess.

2:59:41Traci Hensley

So we just have to stop all traffic on 99 and just can be as a car show.

2:59:46 – 2:59:58Brian Hodson

Well, I think the year that they ran it, so that summer after Frank had passed, I think they had 850 cars. It was a lot. Oh, it was a lot that year. Yeah. So, yes, Councilor Barron.

2:59:59Speaker 4

Along those lines, I forgot to bring this up, but did the Frank Cuts Forge signs get put up for this year? They did. Okay, great.

3:00:07 – 3:01:37Brian Hodson

Thank you. Yeah, so, yeah, again, great weekend. Another weekend for the Dahlia Festival, so if you haven't seen your dahlias yet this year, go out there and talk about that, and then... We did this evening start, we started early at 5 30. We had a really big update regarding the urban growth boundary expansion and that conversation. We will be, that will be coming out again next meeting. We will have a public hearing about it. That will be very crucial. If you want to know how Kami's going to grow, what that's going to look like, Please watch the work session from today. Come to our next meeting. Listen to the input. See what's going to happen. It's really our plan for the next 20 years on where we're going to go. And then the next couple of years, we're going to be looking at how we're going to get there. And so Don and his team here and the consultants have worked hard. three years to get us to this point, and so we're about ready to put a bow on this and have our plans. So please come weigh in, hear about it, see what it's going to look like. I know it's turned sideways, but if you want to take a look here before you leave tonight, it is posted there on the poster board. That's all I really have this evening, and I'm going to start with Councilor Waterman. Wow.

3:01:43 – 3:03:03Speaker 10

The big thing for me was when Megan and I went for a walk down the logging trail and it was been a little while since we've been over there and it was nice to see something that the bike and ped committee had been asking for for a very very very long time and that is the skip trace striped line down the logging trail now. And it kind of did its intended purpose. Megan and I were walking down on the right-hand side, and a young mom and a kid came riding on the bicycle behind us, and they kind of went over, and the mom was like, okay, make sure you let them know that you're coming. Make some noise. And the kid made their noise, and they went around. And so it was very nice to see the you know, being used as intended. And it's very visual, and if you cross the line going the wrong way, you know, glasses. It's very nice to see that, and I'm sure the committee's gonna appreciate hearing it, and I'm sure they've already seen it. So thank you, Randy, for getting that accomplished, and thank you for getting that done as well. Yeah, public works. And I don't have anything else, haven't had library meeting yet, so that's all I have.

3:03:04 – 3:05:58Speaker 20

Great, thank you. Thanks, Councillor Stearns. I haven't been to any liaison meetings this month, but I haven't actually reported on liaison meetings from the last few months because we haven't had time, but just Camb Utility is still working around the new water treatment plant, and there's some questions about how much it's going to cost and whether or not they'll be able to pay for it. And next week will be another meeting, so I'll try to be there at that meeting. A couple things on my mind. One is I noticed an article in the Oregonian about how the city of Independence had shut down their parks all of a sudden due to lack of funding and also partly due to a large increase in monthly fees that was being contested and it just sort of reiterates our need to do forecasting to make sure we do things smart because oftentimes when we wait the last minute for either a levy to pass or for a fee increase to go in that's too dramatic, it can cause backlash and cause very It's very bad budget concerns, so I just want to reiterate that we need to be, not just once, but every, at least once a year, probably twice a year, do forecasting and ways of looking to see what's going to happen in the future, so we just don't fall off a budget cliff one year and say, hey, no money next year and have to be forced to do those kind of things. So that's one thing that's been on my mind a lot. The other thing that's been on my mind for a while, and I wanted to know if anyone in the council is is interested in it, but it's the idea of having houses that people can afford in Canby. We talked a little bit about, I've joked a little bit about some of the things I thought were not the best ways of having things that can be afforded in Canby, but I think there's some that would be very useful for have a subcommittee that would just kind of go over, brainstorm, look at things that some places have done things that we could do as well. Just another article in the Oregonian recently that has Oregon as one of the most expensive states to live in in the U.S. and how that sort of flipped in the last 10, 15 years from being one of the least, lesser expensive states to live in. And we can't all change all those things, but there may be things that we can do and we I certainly should look for that because I see people hurting all the time when it comes to housing costs. So I don't know if anybody else in the council would be interested in some sort of subcommittee to do that. Obviously I can talk to myself a lot, which I do, but in case I talk to somebody else.

3:06:00Brian Hodson

So that's all. Okay. No, definitely worth the conversation and thinking about. For sure.

3:06:07 – 3:09:24Speaker 9

Thank you, councillor. Councilor Davis. Okay, I'll keep my report short so Jason has time. No, but the Park and Rec Committee, we have our meeting this month, but we also have a retreat on the 10th in which we're going to review projects with the city administrator and make sure we're all in line with the projects that we want to move forward and the amount of money that we have budgeted for those as well. So we're going to be meeting on the 10th to go over that. The adult center is moving along real well. They've completed the or working hand-in-hand with the school side of the new adult center. The administrator said that that's working very, very well at this point. So they're on track and with no substantial delays. So the adult center project's moving along real well. I had the opportunity to attend the direct link presentation today as well. And the other part of what the mayor talking about the fiber optics, it's all underground. And so that's really important when it came to the ice storm and things like that. But as long as people have a generator that they can plug your system into, it doesn't have to be in the house. Ideally, that's the best way to go. But if you have a generator and you can hook into it, And that's going to be a way to communicate during a natural disaster as well for fiber optics. And that goes all the way out to, like the mayor said, all the way out to Mount Angel, which is incredible that they were able to complete that task. So hats off to Paul Hauser and his leadership team. for completing that projects. They did an excellent job. Had the opportunity to work the car show. I was out there at 430 in the morning to receive start receiving the cars and this year went exceptionally exceptionally well in regards to the fact that If you come in underneath the Canby sign and you've got First Street and Grant, we actually had four lines of cars on both sides, and we thought maybe twice, but we actually filled both sides up four times. We had most of the cars there by 7.30 in the morning, so you can imagine the amount of cars that were coming through there during that time frame. And the crews that were actually assigned to putting them in the locations as they're coming through that quickly probably went better than I've seen in the last six or seven years that we've been doing it. So hats off to that. But I think it's an honor to Frank Cutsforth for starting that. And I think that's why a lot of us are out there is because of Frank and the Cutsforth family, just making sure that it happens. So that's all I have. Great.

3:09:24 – 3:09:48Brian Hodson

Question for you, Councillor Davis. So with, and I think this has been brought up a couple of times, but I don't remember the answer. So with the Kennedy Adult Center moving, what will happen with the World War II Iwo Jima stone and memorial there? Will that follow the Adult Center?

3:09:49Speaker 9

You know, I don't have an answer to that. I don't know, but let me check with Kathy on that and see what the plan is for that. But hopefully that will move as well. Okay.

3:09:59 – 3:11:25Brian Hodson

That would be good to know. And on the heels of that, and I left this off before going to Council President Hensley, the 25th anniversary of 9-11, is next Friday. And this year it is at Cambie Police Department. We are moving the World Trade Center relic that is at Ackerman, the Ackerman Center that will be moved or is already moved to Cambie Police Department Police Station and so that so the 9-11 remembrance will be there this year to officially install that as a memorial piece here in Cambie. Myself, I believe Senator Drazen uh and several other people will be speaking so please um if you're inclined come down to the PD I can't guarantee it won't be raining, but they'll be prepared for that. It's always at 8 a.m. So it's always a very somber get-together, members, but definitely a piece for us here in Cambie to take the time to do that. So September 11th, 8 a.m., Cambie PD. Bear the fact. Yes, Councillor Patton.

3:11:27 – 3:11:53Speaker 4

Just backtracking one on the Iwo Jima Memorial. I know it's over there at the Canby Adult Center property, but I would like to see that maybe the city help facilitate the move of that and help them with that, if that is the pleasure of folks. I think that would be... a proper use of city time and funds.

3:11:53Traci Hensley

Well, we probably need to also check in with the VFW and the Legion. Because I think they have a very big stake in that.

3:12:07Brian Hodson

Council President Hensley.

3:12:08 – 3:13:17Traci Hensley

I don't have a lot. My group earlier spoke to the somberness of this month for me. I have my liaison reports will be later because this is only the second. All my meetings haven't happened. But I likewise went to the direct link press conference. But also I went to the chamber luncheon yesterday. Yeah. And I wanted to give Shetrina a thank you for bringing those folks in. We spoke to a lot of what's going on with AI and how fraud is very relevant, and especially in the senior community. But with the advances in AI, it's not just the seniors anymore that are getting taken for lots of money. it was really great to hear from that panel about how these things are happening and what we can do to protect ourselves. So I wanted to give them a shout out for bringing those folks in to talk to the business owners. And hopefully maybe there'll be some print material that we can have out for the rest of the community because it's kind of scary what's going on out there. But I will have a further report on my liaison stuff at the next meeting because I will have my meetings done by then. So thank you.

3:13:17 – 3:13:45Brian Hodson

Great. I have 8.45 on the clock. I know we have a hard stop at nine. Does council think that we'll be done by nine or do we need to? How many do we have left? We have Council Patton's report. There's a follow-up with citizen input. There's a lot of citizens here this evening. Action review. And action review. We did a lot tonight, so...

3:13:46Traci Hensley

You get 10 minutes.

3:13:49Speaker 4

All kidding aside, cows are back. I think you might be astonished to know that I have nothing more to say for the evening.

3:13:59Traci Hensley

And the crowd says, what?

3:14:02Speaker 4

And a hush falls across us.

3:14:07Traci Hensley

Don't encourage him. Let's go to the next thing. Really, really.

3:14:10 – 3:14:26Speaker 4

Nothing more. No, I really don't have anything. I'm not going to make anything up. I've got to go home and start packing for my camper rally tomorrow. I also am very interested in getting the circus out of here. All right.

3:14:26 – 3:14:38Brian Hodson

With that being said, any citizens wish to come to the table and opine about the evening? Seeing none. Perfect. Teresa, action review, please.

3:14:41 – 3:15:10Speaker 3

You adopted Ordinances 1677, 1678, 1679, and 1680. You approved Ordinances 1681, 1682, 1683, and 1684 to a second reading on September 16, 2026. You gave consensus and permission to apply for the Regional Infrastructure Fund for Oregon Small Cities, and you agreed that the League of Oregon Cities' priorities would be tabled until the next meeting.

3:15:11 – 3:15:23Brian Hodson

Perfect. Thank you for that recap. If there is nothing else by the council, I will take a motion to adjourn. So moved. It has been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor?

3:15:24Brian Hodson

Anyone opposed? All right. We are adjourned. Good night, Candy. Thank you. See you in two weeks.

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