Board of Elections & Registration - Regular Meeting
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Board of Elections & Registration
- Meeting Type
- Board Of Elections & Registration
- Location
- Camden County, GA
- Meeting Date
- April 17, 2025
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[Music] Hey, hey, hey. [Music] [Music] [Music] Good afternoon. The regular board meeting of the Camden County Board of Elections and Registration will now come to order. Thursday, April 17th, 2025, and it's 4:00. Opening ceremonies will include an invocation delivered by Ray Holland and a pledge of allegiance led by Joe Stell. Please rise. Let us pray. Father God, as we go forth to this meeting, we ask for your guidance, your wisdom to help us work together effectively and make discussions our business at hand. All things are good to come from you. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Katie Bishop, if you could please call roll. M um Robin Mayor Knight is absent.
Sorry, I usually don't say anything else. All All other um members are present. Okay, go ahead. Uh District 2, Clara Harden, present. Julia Mulla, four present. Joe Stell, District Three, Holland, District. Thank you. Has everybody had a chance to uh look at the agenda for this evening? We have. Yes. Can I interject here at the agenda, please? Okay. All right. Um Dr. McCulla, we need to remove two individuals from the agenda that are listed as numbers five and numbers 24. So, you should be able to scratch through John Oik Jr. and Warren C. Peoples. They were officially um their challenge was officially withdrawn earlier from Mr. Rap. Thank you. Okay. At this time, can we get a motion on the amended agenda, please? So, moved. Second. Can we have a vote? All those in favor? I opposed. Thank you. The next item is approval of the minutes from the March 21st, 2025 special called board meeting. At this time, I would motion um I'd like to table this for next meeting when we have a um a group of people that have been on the have been on the board for long enough and we'll need a motion for that. So moved. Second. All those in favor? I I I I opposed. Thank you. Public comments. These are for agenda items only. No public comments. Okay, we'll move on to item F,
financial report. I think that'll come from Miss Nettles, please. Good afternoon, board members. You remember last month um I needed to this month provide you with the correct February um financials. So those are in place there. At the end of February we were at a 57% usage of our budget. At the end of March we're at 70 just over 70%. Do you have any questions for me regarding the budget numbers? Any specific accounts or anything? None. All right, that's all I have. Okay, election supervisor update. Miss Nettles, anything? Yes, ma'am. Dr. McCulla, I've got a couple of things. As you all know, we have an election coming up June 17th. We're going to talk about that in a few minutes. Uh Dennis has a little something to go over with us concerning the public service commission race, but I just wanted to bring to your attention that as of this moment, we have re reviewed and proofed our ballot for this election. It's the only thing on the ballot is the public service commission race. We don't have any other specials. We've already been sent the ballot, proofed it, and sent it back. So, that's good. We should have our ballots um pretty soon. And we've scheduled logic and accuracy testing to begin on May the 6th, Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. May the 6th. We will go over the opportunity for the early voting schedule after you hear a little bit more about the race and what it entails. And I'm going to turn it over to Dennis. That's all I had for my my report unless you all have any
other questions of me. Okay. and we'll go on to new business at this time. All right, Jacob, I'm ready for the presentation. Uh, all right. So, basically every single phone call that we have received regarding this election has been along the lines of what is it? Uh there is not a lot of general knowledge about the public service commission in Georgia and I figured that this would be an amazing opportunity to educate and to explain. Uh so I put together a brief presentation just to give some basic facts and about the Georgia Public Service Commission and the primary that we're about to have on June 17th. So Georgia's public service commission is the regulatory commission for public services. They primarily oversee investorowned service companies. Uh this includes things like determining reasonable rates, uh company inspections and regulations for these investorowned um uh companies. Think TDS Telecom. If you ever look at the tickytacky fees in the bottom of your phone bill, you'll see a public uh telecommunication fund. That's a rate that they oversee. Uh Georgia Power, they're in charge of making sure that they maintain fair rates and things such as that. So, the current commissioners on the public service commission is district one, which is our represented district, Brian Shaw. He is the chair. Uh district two, uh one of the districts on the ballot this uh this election is Tim Eckles. He is the vice chair. District three, another district that's the other district that is on the ballot that is currently held by Fitz Johnson. Uh district four is Lauren Bubba McDonald and district five being uh Trisha
Pridemore. So some basic information just about the schedule and general information about the primary that's upcoming. So it is a primary for districts two and three. The qualifying period for these races ended on April 3rd. The registration, the voter registration deadline for these two races is going to be on May 19th. So, a little over a month from now. Advanced voting is scheduled to start on the 27th, which is uh a day later than it should be if the Monday did not fall on a holiday. So, that is one thing to note is that this election is going to have advanced voting start on a Tuesday. And the deadline to accept absentee ballot applications is going to be June 6. So there's plenty of time if anybody is watching or in the audience would like to get their absentee application submitted to our office. So given that qualifying is ended, we know our candidates. So for district 2, the incumbent uh Republican representative for district 2, Tim Eckles, is running and he is opposed by Mr. Lee Muns. And uh there is a Democrat running unopposed and that is Alicia Johnson. Uh district three, the current representative, Republican Fitz Johnson, is running unopposed. However, it is a four-person race, and I apologize for spelling on Mr. Blackman's name. That should be a black man with an A. Um but the four-person race is between Daniel Blackman, Kesha Shawn Weights, Peter Hubard, and Robert Jones. So more general information, as I stated earlier, district Camden County is represented in district one. Well, we're voting on districts two and three, and that's where a lot of the confusion comes in. So public service commission elections are held at large for all of the districts. So even though we have a designated representative, every single
voter in Georgia gets to vote for every single district. This was actually the subject of a dismissed lawsuit and the reason why this election was delayed to 2025. This election was originally uh scheduled to be held in conjunction with the 2025 general primary and general election, but because of the status of the lawsuit, the Secretary of State had to postpone it until the lawsuit was fully dismissed. And that uh took place too late in the year 2024 to get it on schedule to be held that year. So, it was pushed back to 2025. So, in terms of election administration, uh Camden County is intending to hold three weeks of advanced voting. Uh as consistent with Georgia law, advanced voting will take place at the Camden County annex for all three weeks. Uh there was a last minute addition that did not make this presentation that uh Shannon will go over um briefly after we're finished. Uh absentee ballots will not roll over this year, so this is a subject of controversy. Um, however, there was guidance that was um issued by the Secretary of State general counsel earlier uh this month or I'd say a couple of days ago really that absentee ballots for special elections are not eligible for rollover. So, if an individual signs up for an absentee ballot with the election that they are applying for being a special election, they are not entitled to receive a ballot for any other election or runoff. So if that district three race for the Democrats turns into a runoff, any Democrat that applied for an absentee ballot will need to therefore again apply for a ballot for the runoff. This is going to continue. So, if we were to have a special election in 2026, knock on wood, any person that has signed up for a ballot for the May general primary
will not receive a ballot automatically for that special election and will need to fill out an absentee application specially for that election. It is uh I understand that this can be very inconvenient for our voters and we do apologize. However, we have reached out to every single voter that requested an absentee ballot for the past uh Splast election and we have informed them of this change and most of them requested another application we filled out and we have fulfilled those requests as they have come in. So, we're staying on top of this and we're making sure that the voters of Georgia know this information or voters of Camden County know this information and know their rights when it comes to absentee voting. And then finally, uh, a runoff is likely in district three, the Democratic primary. Just because there's four individuals and this is a lesser known race, we don't have anybody jumping out leading the pack. So, it is more than likely that with those four individuals, not one of them is going to reach the 50% plus one threshold to avoid the possibility of a runoff. So, that's all I had for you. Um, does anybody have any questions for me regarding the content of the presentation? All right. Well, I'm going to send it back on over to Shannon with some information about advanced voting. Okay. And also just to remind everyone or let you all know July 15th is the runoff date should we have one. So July Tuesday, July 15th. Um, board members, in your binder, you're going to find Georgia Public Service Commission primary facts, a fact sheet. So, that's a good sheet if you have friends and family is right after the financials. If you have friends or family that need a little more understanding of this, it'll probably be posted online as well along with um the PowerPoint presentation. Okay, so I hope
that helped you. I thought it was Dennis did a great job with that. So, with everything that he had to say, we we are still going to do the two Saturdays of advanced voting. That's required as well by state law. Um those will be May 31st and June the 7th. And that'll be at the annex. So, we did add two days in for Woodbine for the Woodbine elections office to open up our polls here from 8:30 to 5 to give people in this area an opportunity to vote that might know about the election. I think quite frequently when we called the individuals or sent out letters and have gotten call backs about the race um we've explained uh numerous times what this election is all about. So, we did want to provide a couple of days in the Woodbine area. Uh, and we will just hold early voting in, uh, Kingsland at the annex from 8:30 to 5 daily, 9:00 to 5:00 on those two Saturdays I mentioned, May 31st and June the 7th. Any questions from the board? Done. Okay. Um, I think that's all I had. Okay, at this time we are going to um ask for a motion to adjourn the regular meeting and convene a public hearing. It is uh 4:14 for the record. Do I have a motion? So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Okay, motion carries. Um, okay. We've got some paperwork that needs to go over. Um, for the sake of uh
consideration of time, some of these items are going to be read once and they will apply to our entire hearing. Um, other uh they will be um read periodically, but I just want to make sure we understand that. Um the first thing the uh Camden County Board of Elections and Registration hearing is now called to order. The hearing has been convened to adjudicate the elector challenges by Kyle Rap of the 23 registered voters to remain on the Camden County list of electors. I'm Julia McCullen. I'm the vice chair of the board of elections and registration and the presiding officer of this hearing. Chairperson Robert Mayor Knobin Maynor Knight is unable to make this evening's hearing. Claire Harden, board member, Joseph Stale, board member, and Ray Holland, board member, are here, as well as Shannon Nettles, election supervisor, Dennis Irvin, election technician, and the county attorney, Jackie Forier, is and um also the other thing that needs to be read once for today along with all of the names of the um voters that are being challenged, the hearing board shall vote to uphold or reject the elector challenges. of the following people to remain on the list of electors and those names are as follows. Stephen de LaRosa, Alexander Michael Hughes Law, Shelby Listister Law, Charles Wesley Lesparence, Melissa Celeste Washington, Quentyn Dion Boram, Caleb Steven Clark, Jeffrey Roy Harbold, Wilfredo Diaz, Adrienne Thomas Moyer, David Gilman Gork, Katina Antoanet Foster, Victor Scott Mark Smith Zultan
Meester Derwood Ray Parks Jerry Andres Lopez Milan Knop Carol Elliott Collins Elwin Ford Collins Senior Jesse Elliott Laya Anne Bradley Francis M. Alward Jeremy Deorenzo in accordance with the OCGA 21-2-229 paragraph D after the hearing provided for in this code section the registar shall determine said challenge and shall notify the parties of their decision. If registars uphold the challenge, the person's application for registration shall be rejected and the person's name would be removed from the list of electors as appropriate. The elector shall be notified of such decision in writing either by first class mail addressed to the mailing address shown in the person's voter registration records or in the manner provided in subsection C of code section 21-2-229 for other notices. Paragraph E. Either party shall have a right to appeal the decision of the registars to the superior court by filing a petition with the clerk of the superior court within 10 days after the decision the date of the decision of the registars. A copy of such petition shall be served upon the other parties and the registars. Unless and until the decision of the registars is reversed by the court, the decision of the registar shall stand. is the challenge challenger Kyle Rat present.
All testimony given at the hearing shall be under oath administered by Shannon Nettles. Miss Nettles, at this time, will you give the oath? Do you mind coming up to the podium? Thank you. This oath will also only be done one time today for time's sake, please. Right, Mr. Rap, can you raise your right hand? Thank you. Do you solemnly swear that you will tell the whole truth? Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will tell the whole truth, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury? So help you, God. I swear. Thank you. Rules of evidence will be per OCGA24-1-2 paragraph D sub paragraph 4. In administrative hearings, the rules of evidence as applied in the trial of non-jury civil action shall be followed. Per OCGA21-2-229C, the burden shall be on the elector making the challenge to prove that the person being challenged is not qualified to remain on the list of the electors. At this time is Steven de Laosa who is the first of our challenged electors present. By law, he is not compelled to attend. And that's true of each of the challenged people today. Um, challenger Kyle Rep, will you approach the microphone and um present your evidence or testimony, please? Each speaker is limited to three minutes. I would request a waiver of the three minutes unless we're going to do three minutes for each person. Three minutes for each person. Okay. Set up a
is their residence. Uh business address is not sufficient. That is also in the code. So if you're registered a business address, you are not allowed to be registered to vote in Camden County or Georgia. The question I will explore today is when a person is allowed to register to vote at a hotel, motel or inn or extended stay hotel, does that concrete a claim of residency and inadvertently change a relationship from an inkeeper guest to a tenant or landlord tenant without the consent or knowledge of the inkeeper. So, right now there's a there's a lawsuit going on, Efficiency Lodge Incorporated versus Nissan, and it it kind of addresses this a little bit. So, there was these uh three tenants or three guests that lived at an extended stay hotel. They were there quite a while. They got behind on their rent. The inkeeper said, "I'm evicting you today. There's no because of the rules of an inkeeper." your your threem minute time is up, Mr. W. All right. Regarding the Stephen de LaRosa, does the um does the hearing board um have any questions? I do. Three minutes. First, uh sorry about that. Um Mr. wrap according to uh the supplement that you created uh last year in 2024. I have some questions about uh this list uh where you got the information from. Okay. Okay. The meth methodology used to conduct this research and documentation file as
evidence. Okay. So, most of this came from the Secretary of State's absentee uh voter files that are publicly accessible. So, I would go through them and I would look to see, oh, a person from, let's say, Homestead, Florida, requested an absentee ballot here in Camden. Why did they request an absentee ballot to be sent to Florida? So, when I would start doing some research, I would actually do what what's called voter ref.com. And I can tell if a person now this is stuff vote ref actually actually gets their information from the secretary of states from 39 different states. So I can tell if a person has registered to vote in another another state. I also can go to the public records of that county that their home is in and I can see if they own a home there and I can see if they have a homestead exemption and that's how I found all of this. Okay. So, did you do that for all the registered voters of this county or Yes. Okay. Yes. All right. Any anyone that was challenged, I use vote ref and I would also use uh Free People search to figure out what their um address is and where they should be. Okay. So, um I guess this is for Shannon or someone from my office. Uh Stephen de la Rosa uh the registration date for the homestead exemption in Florida was 912 2018. They voted in Camden. Um did you guys have an opportunity to see when this person registered to vote in Camden? Was it during this time frame that they requested the homestead uh in Florida? I don't think I have that with me. Mr. De LaRosa has been a resident here for some time or had claimed residency here for some time and he did
also vote via a UAVA ballot last November. I'm not sure when he registered to be honest with you. I can Are you looking it up, Dennis? So, I have 912 2018 is when he registered. Okay. Thank you. 18. You said 2018. and he he got his homestead exemption at Florida in 2024. Okay. January 2024 prior to the November election according to the um regist or the um excuse me director of administrative services county appraisers office and you have that in front of you also. And you also have the document about military homestead exemption in Florida. Okay. Any other questions from the board, the hearing board? Not for me. No. Mr. Rep, I guess I should ask you at this point, do you just want to stay up here? Would that be easier? Okay. Thank you. Um, any other concerns regarding the Steven De LaRosa um, voter? Do we have anything else at this time? I will just say that we did attempt to contact him via uh, the certified mail uh, an email address as well as a phone call and we have not been able to reach Mr. Dar Ro at this time. Okay. It's my understanding that WebEx was going to carry uh both Alexander Michael Hughes Law and Shelby Listister Law. Is that correct? Yes. At least Shelby, if not both Mr.
and Ms. Law are on the line on the WebEx line. Okay. Are you going to give them their oath, please? Oh, yes. So, are we done with Mr. Del Rosa. I think so at this time. Shelby or Alex, are you on the line? Yes, we're here. Well, I'm here. My husband, unfortunately, is at work. Okay. Hi, Miss Law. Thank you. I need to read an oath for you real quick. Okay. Okay. Can you please um raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will tell the truth? the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury. So help you God. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Law. Um I am Julie McCulla, District 4 rep and for the hearing the um lead officer, Mr. Krap, if you're ready to go ahead and present testimony. Yes. So um Mr. and Mrs. actually own a house at 307 Willow Creek Drive in Tuttle, Oklahoma. And they do have a homestead exemption on that address. So therefore, that makes them a Oklahoma resident per the um frequently asked questions. Can active duty military personnel receive a homestead in Oklahoma? And it says yes. Military personnel who are full-time active person personnel and who own property in Oklahoma may apply for and receive homestead exemption. Military personnel should be aware that obtaining homestead exemption makes them legal residents of Oklahoma and subject to Oklahoma income tax and motor vehicle tag. So, do you own 307?
Yes. Willow Creek Drive. Yes. Okay. And do you have a homestead exemption on it? Uh, yes. We just found that out during this whole situation. Okay. I have no further questions. Okay. Thank you. At this time, Miss Law, do you have any uh do you have any questions? You have three minutes if so. I don't at this time. I have a question. Okay. Um, Miss Law, you uh stated that you found out that you had a homestead. I guess uh when this uh your challenge came up. Um did you knowingly apply for that homestead? Um I do not have any recollection of applying for the homestead. Um I believe my husband kind of took care of all of the paperwork when it came to the house. Um so I don't at all applying for it. I think it may have been done during our closing um which we were um living in a different state at the time because my husband was getting new orders here. Um so we had a notary. It wasn't actually done with whoever was managing the house. Um so I'm not I I don't remember um doing the homestead. Um, unfortunately I cannot speak for my husband. He's not here. So I cannot tell you um if he remembers that or not. Any other questions from the hearing board? Shannon, anything from your office? Yes. Uh, we did speak with both Shelby and Alex Law um via the phone. uh when I I honestly I can't remember Shelby if it was the email or the just we phone call we gave you a phone call to let you know
what was going on but I can recall that Mr. um Law did not really understand what a homestead exemption was. So I say that because I don't really think this was done knowingly. Um they they uh are firsttime home buyers there in Oklahoma. So, congratulations on that, Shelby. And I'm sure that the oak the the homestead exemption, you know, it's a it's a tax break, and I'm sure that was something that was offered um by their real estate or their f their closing company, but I don't think this was done knowingly. I think it was just an innocent error. They are homesteaded there in Oklahoma. Um they do still have voter registration here, both Alex and Shelby Law. Um, and if they don't have any intent to change that voter, their homestead exemption, then we will need to take them off the voter role here. Okay. And I will uh I I will add that uh on the phone I spoke with Mr. Alex Law. He returned my call um and that he did state that his intention was to return to the state of Georgia. um you know, barring the the continuation of his homestead um as a as a determining factor um in in terms of voter registration, but it was his intent to return to the state of Georgia upon the completion of his service. Right. Yes. And it's also a possibility that we may end up back in Georgia while he's still in service due to the um Kings Bay Naval Base there. Right. So there's nothing that would bar them from reregistering in Camden County if they became residents of Camden County. Nothing would. And there's no none of these challenges. I don't think anyone ever did anything that was intentional. I think they didn't understand the law and there was not um breaks put in there to stop somebody some people from
registering to vote like at a business address. That's all I'm saying. No one did anything illegal. I do have one question and Miss Bortier, Mr. Rap in the office, it could be for any of y'all. If they have the intention at some point to return to Georgia, can we can we discuss that for a minute? If they do do they stay on the role, do they leave the role until they come back? How does that work? Any of y'all? So, um, the intention to return to Georgia is, uh, well, le let's put it this way. Um, the intent to return to Georgia is a a significant factor in terms of determining registration. However, there are certain irrebutable factors in determining registration. And one of those irrebutable factors is taking bonafide steps to declaring a new resident being um intentional or not. I'm going to leave to our attorney here, but one of those bonafide um steps as taken as delineated in the Georgia code is registering for a homestead in a different jurisdiction. Thank you. I can add that I would agree fully with that statement and and Georgia law does separate the difference between doicile and a residency. um you know an intent to show residency right now would be something like a homestead exemption and purchasing a house and changing your driver's license or those sorts of things. Um and certainly they can express a desire to return to the state or the jurisdiction, but right now the the affirmative steps show Oklahoma in this particular situation. And as Mr. Rap said, there's nothing that that would stop them from reregistering if they were to return to this area. Yeah. In fact, I would encourage them to register to vote once they become res residents back in Georgia. I I think the person on the line maybe tried to say something. Yes, Miss Law. Go ahead and speak. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I did not mean to interrupt. Um I do still have a Georgia driver's
license. I don't know if that matters or means anything to you, but I still I've kept my Georgia driver's license um since we moved out of the state. Is Go ahead. Sorry. Is is your name on the house in Oklahoma? Yes, ma'am. So therefore, your name is probably on the homestead exemption. Okay. I I don't I No, I don't know that. That would be you would I would assume need to clarify that with your husband, but since we know that his name is on the homestead exemption and the house for certain um he would definitely need to stay or get registered in Oklahoma the way the law reads. Any other So, Mr. Rap, you have documentation? Yes, I do. So, Grady County Assessor's Office, Cindy Gelner did say that both Alexander and Shelby Law do have a homestead and their name is on the deed also kind of title. So, I would say probably I I'm not sure how you if you can keep your driver's license in Oak in Georgia being a resident of Oklahoma. I think in the military being military that you with the homestead exemption she would have to talk to the you know yeah that's a that's a military and and certain and each state's DMV but there are certain exceptions for that um if they decided to wave their homestead exemption and just have a house that would be something completely different correct um as far as as this challenge is concerned Mrs. law. Have you spoke with your husband and and come to an agreement if your intent is to keep the homestead exemption or to release that exemption and continue to stay on the Georgia voter rules? Um, we're actually not sure because we we I have to talk to him again. I'm so sorry.
Um, we might actually be moving um out of state here soon. So, um I'm I got to talk to him again because I'm waiting to hear from the military about when we're going to be moving. It should be within the next like five or six months. Okay. Mr. Rap, anything else? I have nothing else. Any more comments from the hearing board members? Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Law. Thank you, guys. Okay. Okay, at this time we are moving on to um challenge elector Charles Wesley Les France while not compelled uh to attend. Is he in attendance? Okay, he is not. Mr. W, you may continue. Okay. So, during the November 2024 general election, uh, Secretary State absentee files, uh, shows an absentee ballot that was mailed to 1542 Southeast 16th Avenue, Homestead, Florida. And that's the address that he has a homestead exemption on. I believe his mailing address is different than the homestead exam the homestead um address, but he does own a house at 1542 Southeast 16th Avenue, Homestead, Florida. And he does have a homestead exemption on that house. And you there's also he's had it since at least 2022. That's as far back as I can see. And he's carrying it over to 2025. And the once again, the Florida law says if you're going to have a homestead exemption in Florida, you must be a resident of Florida. Anything else? No, that's it. Okay. Thank you. Hearing board members? Anything?
No. None. Okay. Thank you. I believe at that time that covers the um the homestead exemption um group of people. We're going to move on to uh commercial addresses and Yep. Miss M. Can I interrupt real quick? I'm sorry. I I did not have a conversation with Mr. Les Barren, but we did attempt to reach him. I believe Dennis spoke with him briefly. Uh yes, I did. Okay. Can you just share? Absolutely. So, um I spoke with M if Dennis is going to be testifying, can we have him under oath also? Sure. Thank you. Not a problem. I think that would be appropriate. Dennis, do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury? So, help you God. I certainly do. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Now, um I spoke with Mr. Lebron on the phone. He actually returned a call from Shannon and he spoke with me. Um so, in that conversation, uh you know, the general standard questions, what is this? Who's looking into my stuff? What's going on? why, you know, why is somebody prying in my life? All that kind of stuff. And then he ended up uh basically his general just was, "Yes, I do have a homestead in Florida. I want to return to Camden County, but if you're going to make it this hard on military members to stay registered, that he would probably just keep his stuff in Florida." At that point, I sent him a voter cancellation file over email. Um, but I never received it in return. Is that it? That's all. Thank you. Thank you, Dennis. Mr. Rap, anything? No, that's it. Okay. Thank you. Any board members? Okay. Now, we are moving on to Melissa Celeste Washington and uh the same question applies. Is the challenge elector present though not compelled to attend? Okay, Mr. W. She has a
registration address of 715 South Lee Street, which is a commercial building. I believe it's an auto repair across the street from Stephins. That is all I have. Okay. Anything from the hearing board? And if I'm rushing you while looking at stuff, please just let me know. I'll just reiterate commercial addresses are not authorized to be residencies or voter registration. Anything from the hearing board? Uh, I have a question. Were we able to make contact with this individual? I was uh wenton. Go ahead, Dennis. If you know off the top of your head the is this this is Melissa Washington. Yes, Melissa Washington. I called the business that is located at that address. Uh they told me that that individual was not in at the moment and that they would have them call me back whenever they did return. However, that individual never returned my call. Okay. So, she works at that location. I'm not entirely sure what the status of her, you know, relation to that location is. Um I was told that she would reach back out to me, but I never got um never got the opportunity. She was also sent certified mail that we do show was picked up or I'm sorry, we show that it was um yeah, received registered mail notice. She did receive it. Okay. Did she sign for it? She did. Okay. Any other comments? No. Okay.
At this time, we'll go on to Quentyn Dion Borum. Is the challenge elector present though not compelled to attend? Mr. Rap. The only thing I have is he's registered at the quality in U hotel or motel and I don't have anything else on him. Okay. Okay. Did you state earlier that that was a place that did have like maybe uh long-term housing there or not? No, that was a lawsuit that's going on in Atlanta. Okay. And I do not know if Quality Inn offers long-term um leases or not. But if you are allowing people to register to vote at a hotel or motel, you could subject the inkeeper to become a landlord. And once they become a landlord, they cannot just simply call the police and say, "This person has overstayed. They're no longer paying. I want them removed." Once they become a tenant, they now have to be served and it has to go through the magistrate court to get an eviction and a writ of possession. So, you made the process a whole lot harder for the inkeeper. And they didn't even probably know that they were a landlord at that point. if you allow them to stand. Okay, that's all I have. So, I have a question on that. So, this board has the ability to dictate the status between a tenant, a renter, and the landlord relationship. No, you don't have that. What it does is it it it's another wedge in the lawsuit that's going on about tenants and inkeepers and landlords. So now the the the guest can say I'm
registered to vote here. This is my residency. I have another leg to say I'm you can't just come have the police remove me. You have to do the due process. Give me notice. Get a rid of possession to remove me. Okay. Dr. McCulla, can I add something? Go ahead. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Borum, so all of these individuals that were challenged and remained on this challenge list that you have in the front of your binders, board members, they were all sent certified letters, registered certified letters that they had to sign for to receive. Mr. Borams was returned, undeliverable, unable to forward. the gentleman's never voted in Camden County. So, you can you can see that information I provided you on that little spreadsheet. I think it's helpful for you to be looking at that as well. Any other comments, Mr. Rap? I have no other comments. Hearing board registration office. Okay. We will go on to the next one. We have Caleb Steven Clark. Again, is he the challenged elector present? They're not compelled to attend. Mr. Rap. Okay. This gentleman is registered at 120 Edinfield Drive, which is Motel 6. And I did present evidence that uh this gentleman did uh reside or not reside. He was a guest at the hotel but left prior to the November 2024 election. Has not returned. And also the uh manager said uh we never recommend any of our guests use this hotel address as a permanent resident address. However, if a guest wants to order
something from online or restaurant, they can use this as a temporary address while they're staying at our hotel. only owners or management has a right to use this address as a permanent residence. So that's their stance on it. And that was from Motel 6, correct? That was from Motel 6. That was not the address that was changed the where the the address that you had and the address that the hotel was at the same I resolved that in the emails and and it's in the emails that you have that I resolved that address issue. Thank you. Yep. Anything else? And the voter name also. Thank you. Anything else from the hearing board? No. Miss Nettles, your office? Nobody. Okay, we are moving on to Jeffrey Roy Harbald. Again, is the challenged elector present? No, not compelled to attend. Mr. Rap. Okay. This gentleman also registered to vote at U Motel 6. Motel 6 reports that he was never a guest at their hotel. They cannot find him on the registry at all. So, I'm not even sure how he got registered to vote if he wasn't able to show that he was even staying there and no other evidence. Right. Is that it? Right. Right. And I I did make sure that the the spelling was correct on the gentleman's first name so that we were talking about the same person for motel 6. Miss Nettles, as you mentioned earlier, that um I believe that mail was returned. Is correct. Correct. The only difference with this gentleman, he registered uh to vote here in Camden about two years ago. I don't recall in which manner we received the voter registration via DDS. DDS. Okay. So, he
was able to put that address on a driver's license and he did vote in Camden, I believe, in the November 24 election. Based on that information, are there any questions from the hearing board? Mr. Rap, I have nothing. Okay, we will move on to Welfredo Diaz that um mail was also unable to deliver and if the challenge voter is presented uh present and not compelled to Mr. W. All right. So according to 21 OCGA 2122 217 A2 Charlie proof of ownership of rental or post office box or private mail box service address within a particular jurisdiction shall not constitute sufficient grounds to establish a person's residency within a particular jurisdiction. I believe that he is registered at 1601 or I know he's registered at 1601 Georgia Highway 40 east probably at the mail and more. It doesn't have a uh specific unit number on his registration. That's the UPS store at in the public shopping plaza. Okay. Mail and More is um or the UPS store or UPS store is in Publix. Mail and More is on the um I I Yeah. Two different It's in the public shopping. Okay. The UPS store. Yes. UPS store. Okay. Anything else? Uh, nope. Nothing else. Hearing board? None. Miss Nettles. Okay. We will move on to Adrian Thomas Moyer. Again, that mail was undeliverable. And if the challenged
elector is here, present. No. And not compelled to. Again, Mr. Mr. Rap. So, this person is also uh registered to vote at 1601 Georgia Highway 40 East. Uh this is a site or suite M and that's probably the UPS store. That's also in the public's uh shopping plaza. Miss Nettles, anything? Hearing board? Anything? No. Okay. The la um the next person is David Gilman Gork. Again, the mail was undeliverable. If the challenged elector is present, not compelled to attend. Mr. Rap, he is actually registered to vote at 140 the Lakes Boulevard. That is the business uh right there across the street from Chick-fil-A, that business complex there. And doing my research, I also discovered that he's possibly voted or registered to vote in New York. Possibly. Possibly. I mean, I can I can verify date of birth. I can verify name. I can verify that the address that he is associated with matches this person, but I don't have his social security number or any other identifying hearing board, but he's definitely registered a business address. Okay. Nothing from the hearing board. No. And again, if I'm rushing you, I know that's a lot of stuff to look through. Shannon's office. Anything? Nothing. We'll move on to Kina and Twinette Foster. Miss Nettles, that one is not marked yellow or red. Do we have an update on the mail sent? Can you confirm, Dennis? Yes. Uh, Miss Kina Fosters um was
available for pickup. However, a slip was left with her because um no one was at at that address at that time eligible to sign for it for her. So, it's basically a waiting pickup. Okay. And is Cina Antoanet Foster present today? They're not compelled to attend. Okay. Mr. Rap. All right. She is registered to vote at 801 East King Street, Sweet Charlie. And that is actually over by the Kay radio station. It is a commercial address and I do not believe there is living quarters at that address. Anything further hearing board, Miss Nettle's office? No. Um, yes. Oh, sorry. I I was able to get in touch with Miss Foster. Um, you know, again, the standard questions. What does this mean? What's going on? Who's looking into my business? Why? You know, stuff like that. And then eventually uh she got to the point where she said, "I do not want to be registered to vote in Camden County. I am a resident of Jacksonville. I just have my license there because that's my business and I can get my mail. I get my mail there and yada yada yada." But um essentially that was the gist of the conversation. I offered to send her a absent or a voter registration cancellation form. She declined that. She said she would let the process play out. Okay. Okay. Hearing board. Nothing. Mr. W. Anything else? Nothing. Okay. We'll move on to Victor Scott Marx Smith. Another commercial address. And if the challenged elector is here, though not compelled to attend. Okay, Mr. W. All right. This gentleman is a registered to vote at 1325 Hospitality Avenue, unit 216, which is Magnolia
N. And Magnolia N says they he was never a resident or a guest at their uh establishment. They have no record of him ever being there. Okay. Hearing board. No. M. Nettles. He's been registered in Camden quite a while. He should have fallen off the list at some point since he hasn't voted. Any other comments? Okay, we'll move on to Zultan Meester. Another commercial address. And this one is not highlighted red or yellow. If anybody wants to make a comment before we start. Mr. Meester's uh letter had to go all the way down to Brazil. Uh but it is awaiting pickup at the uh I imagine the postal office of some kind the national postal office whatever the way it works in Brazil it is awaiting his pickup at in Brazil. Okay Mr. Rat so is this gentleman a permanent overseas? Yes. So he's only voted in uh federal elections? Yes I believe so. You believe so? I believe so. I don't have the information directly in front of me because if he is a permanent US citizen overseas, I will withdraw this challenge to where he can only vote for federal offices and not state or local. But I don't believe that's what he was sent for his absentee ballot. The only race I recall Mr. um Metor voting in was uh via absentee ballot in the November 2024 election. Uh that is also my only recollection of him ever voting. And I I don't recall what kind of ballot he received at that time. Okay. So you don't know if it was a federal ballot? I
don't recall. I don't remember any federal ballots being processed for absentee when we were processing them. So I don't there were a handful of federal write in ballots. There were and I'd like to I'd like to verify that in our records. Is that something we can do now or do we need to hold off on that? Oh, I I can't do it from here, but I would like to verify that at some point. Okay. Mr. Rap, are you okay with that as well? I am, but he's also registered to vote in Florida. Oh, okay. Uh I will note that uh upon looking at one second Mr. W. Go ahead. Yes, he he's registered to vote in Florida now. He did registered to vote in 2022 in Florida in 2023 in Georgia. So it's probably not an issue that he's registered to vote in Florida seems how the Georgia registration was prior to or was after the Florida. The only concern I have is he's also he was he's registered at a Fairfield in in Florida. and he's registered a Fairfield in in Georgia. He has no record of any homestead anywhere. I know you all have talked to him or I think you've talked to him and he's also evidently has a photo shop down in Brazil, but I'm not sure he's military because I think he got sent a I want to say military overseas. I think this is one where we need uh some further investigation. Okay. Because he could be a US citizen living in another and not necessarily be affiliated with the military, right? And just use Fairfield in when he comes to the state. So he might have used that in
Florida, but then he changed to Georgia. Yeah, I don't want to kick anyone or remove anyone from the voter list that should be voting. That's not my goal here. And we can also discuss that in a few in a little bit when we reconvene into meeting. Miss Harden, will you remember that? Thank you. Yes. Okay. Anything else from the board? Mr. Rap the office. Anybody? Okay. Dunwood Dunward Ray Parks. And if I'm not mistaken, this is the last of the commercial property ones. Yes. And um is the challenge elector present though not compelled? Okay, Mr. Wat. All right. This voter is uh registered to vote at 2342 Village Drive, Kingsland. And after doing further research, I thought it was Mariner's End, but Mariners's End is actually 2341. The property address 2342 would actually be across the street which is the vacant or the probably the rightway for the railroad. So this address does not exist. 2342 Village Drive does not exist. 2341 exists and 2353 exists and that's uh the real estate agency. Any comments from the hearing board? Go ahead. On Mr. Rap on your information that you provided the board, just a clarification here. Um, you've got the location address listed as 2341 Village Drive. Uhhuh. But down for the owner, you do got listed Mariners Partners LLC, 2342 Village Drive. Right. So that's how the they wanted the the owner of the business.
That's how they wanted the address. The actual no kidding address for Cam Cam County is 2341 Village Drive. As you say, the 2342 does not not a valid address. No, it's not a valid address. That would be across the street and that would not be. Now there are people vote uh register to vote at 2343 which is Mariners Mariners in but we'll we can talk about that. You you all need to look into that. I'm I'm not going to look into that anymore. Thank you. Okay. Any more comments? Shannon's office. I Yeah, they I spoke or I didn't I did not speak to this gentleman. I did a little more looking around on him. He hasn't voted in Camden since 2018. And I did notice he was registered in um I've seen him in a couple of other states. So, he hasn't been here in some time. Yeah, he is registered to vote in Oklahoma and he did register or he did vote in this last election. And that's part of the proof, the evidence that I provided. Jill, he voted in Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Just to clarify, not not here. Okay. Thank you. Voted in Oklahoma. Okay. Thank you. Anything else? Nothing. Okay. Okay. We are finished with the commercial um address part and we will move on to the St. Mary's post office box um issues. Um the very first one on there is Jerry Andres Lopez and is the challenge elector here not compelled to attend? Mr. Rat. All right. Just to reiterate that proof of an ownership of a rental or post office box does not constitute residency in Georgia. I would note that he's received registered mail notice to Shannon's from
your office. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, where does he live? Shannon, what was the address that that was sent to or do you have that information? So, he we know he signed for the document at the P.O. box. I have no idea where he lives. He has not replied to the letter. He has never voted here and it's been registered since 23. So let us remember in this section all of those notices were sent to post office boxes obviously. Sorry for that. Thank you. Okay. Any comments from the board office? Nothing. Okay. We will move on to Milin Knop. That again is a St. Mary's post office issue and if the challenge elector is present, they're not compelled to attend. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. H. Uh, he's he's also voted at the or registered to vote at the post office at apartment 5314. So, I'm not sure what the safeguards are to keep people from voting or registering to vote at the post office, but by putting apartment 5314, it probably didn't trigger anything that would might be set up in Jarvis. Let's just clarify. People can use post office boxes as a mailing address, not not to not to register to vote. So, it's been they turn it into uh like I think it's 724 Charlie Smith Senior Highway and then they do that unit number, apartment number. So, but uh I believe that address now as well as the Kingsland Post Office are flagged in our system in the new system that we have Jarvis. So, it shows up as a commercial
and he's never voted in Camden County. Correct. Yeah. Hearing board anything? No, Mr. W. Anything we're done on that? Okay. The next St. Mary's post office is Carol Elliot Collins. The challenged elector is in present. Is present. No, not compelled to attend. Go ahead. Okay. She's also registered to vote at the post office. difference between her and the prior one is she has voted in Camden County. So I can speak on go ahead them a little bit. They have uh been longtime residents of Camden County. Not long time but at least 15 20 years I guess. Um it's actually if you look at Carol and Elwin Ford I don't want to get ahead of you Mr. Rap but that's a married couple. They both have the same PO box. Do you have that? Okay. Yeah. So, Carol and Elwin, we sent a a certified letter to has been delivered. So, their post office box that tells me it's still active, but they haven't signed for the the um the envelope yet. Um they sold a property within the last couple of years. There is an Elwin Ford Collins Jr. that I reached out to, but unfortunately has no relationship uh with his father or stepmother. So, I was not able to gain any information from him about the whereabouts of his uh or how to contact his his uh parents, but they have been active voters. I think they voted as most recently as November. Any other comments from the I just I just want them to get on the right residency address. Yeah. They have not replied to our letters. They've been
they've received more than this last one. They've already been we've already been in contact with them before via a letter to the post office with no response outside of this. Correct. Before this challenge when we when when I realized that they were registered at the PO box. Okay. Yeah. I I guess I have a question. Uh, have they ever requested an absentee ballot or Not that I saw in the in the Jarvis file. I can verify that. I don't I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I don't believe so. Since I've got back to 2021, they've never It's always been in person regular. Oh, absentee by mail for the November 2024 election. Oh, okay. For both of them or just let's just take we'll separate these out for the purpose of the hearing. But was that for Carol Elliott? Yes, for Carol Elliott Collins, she requested an absentee ballot. Okay. And then hold that thought for the next one. Mr. W. Any other comments from the board? No. Yeah. Because I noticed that based on uh the birth year that these are elderly. They are. They are. And if for some reason they're homeless, I'm I will withdraw these challenges because homeless people in Georgia are allowed to register to vote. They have to make their mailing address the register's office for voting purposes. How many people know that? Because, you know, I didn't know that until I was reading the code, but a lot of people don't know the code. So therefore, so that just came out last year. That was a change to the code last year. about homeless and uh registered or mailing address in the registered office. So if we could reach out to them which we are and let them know we have we have
no phone number for these individuals. So it's only through mail. Yeah. Can you guess how many times you've done this over a period of time? Uh I I guess we could go back and reverify. I don't think it's there that we have scanned in their absentee ballot application from 24 if they did indeed get a November one. So, let us check on that because it might have some other piece of a clue. Um, but it seems to me that that even went to the P.O. box. My thought is maybe they're in a retirement community or Magnolia Manor or something like that and someone else checks their mail. But that's why I was hoping when I found the sun that that would but it I don't I don't know. So if you decide to remove them from the voter roles, it's nothing for them to come reregister at a residency address. Simple as that. They just show that they proof of residency and they're back on the rolls at that residence and not at the post office. Any other comments? Hearing board? No, Shannon. No, you're good. Okay. Okay. We'll move on to El um Elwin Ford Collins, Senior. And as Shannon mentioned earlier, they are married. Same situation. St. Mary's Post Office. And yes, they have voted. Um is the challenged elector here. He is not they are not compelled to attend. Mr. Knap, Mr. Wrap, sorry. Yes. So, he's like I say, he's voted at the he's registered to vote at the uh post office. He did vote uh regular on 126 or 126 2022 was the last time he voted. He did not vote in the 2024 election or since 2022 according to my records anyway.
Hearing board anything? No, nothing. Okay. Okay, we will move on to Jesse Elliott. Uh moved no forwarding address has not voted in Camden. It's a St. Mary's Post Office. Uh Jesse Elliott, if you are present, not compelled to attend uh to um yeah to attend. Mr. Rap. All right. So the only thing different on him is he put a unit 51 or 5159 for his address which probably circumvented the safeguards. That's all I have for him. Hearing board anything Shannana? Nothing. Okay, we'll move on to Laya Anne Bradley moved with no forwarding address. No voting in Camden. It's the St. Mary's PO box. Is the challenge elect or present though not compelled to attend? Mr. Rap. Okay. This voter actually registered to vote on 115204. So very recent. And I know Jarvis has been around prior to 2024. So I don't know what safeguards Jarvis has, but they they missed this one. And there's no unit or apartment or anything on it. So only the post office. And they've already moved. So should be an easy easy call on that one. Hearing board. Anything on Laya and Bradley? Janna's office? Nothing. Okay. Um, we are now going to go into the vacant lot section. Uh, Francis M. Allard. um challenge elector here. No, not
compelled to attend, Mr. Rap. Okay. So, evidently 601 St. Mary's South Street West actually gets mail delivered there, but there's no house there. It is a vacant lot. In fact, Q public does not even have a location address for that lot. So, it is an empty lot and that's where she's registered and that's it for the information. Okay. Miss Nles, you have something to speak on. Yes. So, I think Dennis and I both have something to add for this. So, uh discussions with the city of St. Mary's their planning and street um street the person that does their streets. I spoke with him. His name's Tage. also uh talked to Brian Bishop downstairs with the uh Camden County Tax Assessor's Office and the legal documents all have 101 Dworth Street for this property. Um I did speak with Mr. Well, let me just say that um these three vacant lots and individuals that have been challenged by Mr. wrap all uh revolve around the same piece of property in downtown St. Mary's. Um the owner of the property has two tenants. Long story short, after discussions with the county and the city, um that that address is should be reading for mail delivery as 101 Dillworth Street, not 601 St. Mary Street West or West St. Mary Street. They do have all their utilities under 601 um west, but everything else should go to like the
physical address is 101. And all three individuals have agreed to and have already done so as of just a few minutes ago, made the change to their voter registration to use 101 Dworth Street. Let's think this is just one of those weird street issues. We've got two different addresses. So, I think Dennis had something else to add. Uh yes, I personally uh updated Miss uh Alward's voter profile um after her correspondence to uh change that to 101 Dworth. And also, if you look at the evidence given um you know, it's a simple mistake to make, but the address listed on this evidence is under the owner's mailing address. It is not listed on the property's physical address. So this address this this lot is not addressed as 601 West St. Mary Street. Hearing board anything, Mr. If they've changed their uh registration address to to the correct address, I'm I'm withdrawing the challenge for these two voters for um Miss Alwood and uh Mr. Delorenzo. There's no reason for me to be here talking about them. Just for record, would you how did they um contact you and when? Today? Um yeah. So, Miss Elward just 15 minutes before the 4:00 meeting um made her address change and then I did receive during the meeting an an email from Mr. D. Lorenzo that he had just changed his address as well. So, I these were both recent, very very recent. I hadn't had a chance to let Mr. wrap. No. Yeah. Anything else from the board? Okay. Um just for the record, let's go on to the final um to the final one. Uh Jeremy Dorenzo. Um same situation. I believe I'm not not compelled to attend, but um is he
present? Go ahead. All right. I withdraw the challenge for Mr. Delorenzo. Anything from the hearing board? Miss Nettle's office? No. Okay. Um, at this time, uh, I need to get a motion to adjourn the public hearing and reconvene the regular called meeting. It is, um, 517. Can I get a motion, please? So moved. Second. Thank you. Um, all those in favor? I opposed. Pass. Thank you. And that's a 518 for the record. Okay. Um, new business continued uh discussion concerning the elector challenge. In our capacity as a hearing board regarding the voter challenges issued by Kyle Rap, we are responsible for adjudicating these challenges. The question posed to the board is, did the challenger prove to you that these voters should be found ineligible to register to vote in Camden County? If so, a motion made mo a motion must be made to approve the challenge. If not, a motion must be made to deny the challenge. If you feel that you cannot make a decision at this time, a motion to postpone this challenge or other action must also be made. Um, in the consideration, Mr. Rap, if you're okay with this, um, in the consideration of time, we're going to go ahead and group those people based on Homestead, commercial, St. Mary's Post Office, and vacant lot with a know there's a couple exceptions, but we'll go through that if that's okay with you. Okay. Okay. So at this time we will
um we are going to look at the voter challenge made for Steven de LaRosa Alexander Law Shelby Law and Charles Lesprince. That was the very first set of them that we did at the beginning and those were all homestead and um we need to have a motion by the board. If we can do those if we can consolidate those um we'll do one motion. So moved. So are we going is the is the consideration to approve, deny or table the challenge? Approve. Motion to approve. I have a second. Second. Second that. All those in favor? I would like to have a discussion since it was second. Absolutely. Go ahead. Um, you know, we spoke with um Mrs. Law and it was unclear that there was any intent and I don't think there was any any intent to fraudulently stay registered to vote in Camden County. With that said, um the following up on the question I asked was they going to um move from being a homestead exemption in Oklahoma. They were unclear about that or she was. Her husband wasn't present to state his side of that. Um, I would I would move that for them that we send a notification to them that if they are indeed going to withdraw from their homestead exemption with um they they have 30 days to prove to us that they did that. And because you know
the case being is that they could be transferring in five months and then they have to go through the the process again to register to vote which is I know it's not that big of a ordeal to do but to be to be fair you know they didn't in intend to try to defraud the voter registration laws or anything like that but uh it so I would I would There's a Is there a motion on the floor already? We have a motion and we have a second. So, at this time, we're going to go ahead and need to vote on that. Um, and then you can amend that one. We can amend. Would somebody like to amend the second? I I would move to amend that for their case that we would give them 30 days to to either with um to show that they withdrew their homestead exemption and we can leave them in the voter roles or to uh they can deny and then we remove them the next meeting. Katie should if um since there was a motion and discussion on the floor to approve when um you might want to I would recommend I and that you do two separate motions. One motion the first being to exclude the laws and then the second motion considering that 30 days that you suggested. I believe the person that made the motion can amend the motion on the floor. Correct. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, if Clara wants to amend the motion to include what Mr. Holland has said, then we could just move forward with the motion. I think that we need to What do our attorney say about the homestead exemption and all that? But before we get too far into that, I think it's I thought it was going to be a good thing that we we group these together collectively. I see that we might have
some problems with that. So, it may well be that we can go on and look at um De LaRosa and Les Branson and and move and and continue with our motion and then go back with the laws separately. Well, how do we the motion presently is for the four individuals. So, we would we would need to amend it if if your desire was to address those two and then come back to the laws. Thank you. That would still need to be done by the original movement. Okay. Yes. So the person who made the original motion, Clara, and then Mr. Stell, you were the second. You would just make a a motion to amend to exclude the laws and take action on them separately. Okay. Motion to uh exclude the laws uh for motion to approve and to only consider uh de la Rosa and last spring in the motion to approve this item. All right, second. All those in favor? I I Okay, that motion carries. And now let's go back. Katie, are we okay? Okay. And then now let's go back and um look at a motion to include uh both Alexander Law and Shelby Law. And we'll need a motion um to either approve, deny, or postpone. I move to postpone for 30 days and give them the a chance to let us know that if they're going to withdraw their homestead in Oklahoma and stay on the voter roles. Here we have a second. Motion fails. There a new motion. Is there a new motion then? There's not a Well, we didn't get a second, so the motion will fail. Correct. Right. So, now now that
still leaves these two to be addressed. Yes. Okay. So, we still need to address the laws. That's both Alexander Law and Shelby Law. Either to approve, deny, or postpone. May I make a recommendation? Uh, we do have a another meeting if you're wanting to give them roughly 30 days. Um, we do have another meeting scheduled in May. That would give us an opportunity to to get the information out to the laws, find out their plans, and you could address this particular challenge of those two individuals at the May 15th meeting, right? Is it May 15th? Anybody? I think so. Right. Yes. Okay. A motion to table them. Can we table the motion? Okay. We'll need You would make a motion to table these two these two voters. Thank you. Do we have a a motion to table this these two voters? So moved. Second. Second. Okay. All those in favor? I two. Huh? There any opposed? Opposed. Well, we only had two. Those in favor? I I those opposed to abstain. Do we have enough to carry? May because I don't vote, do I? I didn't vote. Do I need to do I need to vote on this? Yes. Okay. In favor? Motion carries. Correct. And I do want to clarify um and I think Mr. Rap has already mentioned this. There was no he doesn't believe there's any ill intent at all. And I think he he mentioned that several times for for the law situation. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Now with that situation, our next set um is an even larger group. So, do you think that we should take it step by step? And I mean, I hate to do motions after motions, but I almost feel like after what happened. Well, how do you feel about that? I think there's one that needs to be there's just one. I I mean, I believe that we we don't have evidence for just one, but that is completely up to you all. Yes. And that was the Mr. Meester. Okay. At this time, can we get a motion to either approve, deny, or postpone this next group based on um commercial addresses? I motion that we approve with the exception of Mr. Mester. Do we have a second? Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Okay, motion carries. I would like to we need to address Zan um master if anybody I would move to um do the same as we we did the previous the the laws to until the next board meeting to attempt to find out if he is a permanent US citizen abroad to to determine that and find out what his status is. Okay. So, do we have a motion to postpone or are we would we table? Are we going to table? We could table that. Motion to table. A motion to table. Second. All those in favor? I I opposed. Motion carries to table. Thank you.
The um the next set that we need to consider to approve, deny or postpone is the St. Mary's post office issues. Do we feel we can do that in a group or are we going to have table or deny issues on those? Um, I have concern about uh the the uh fors is it Cara Elliot Collins and Evan Ford Collins simply because of their age. Um, I would like to see us make some more effort in getting u a resident address for them as opposed to it's easy to register but as you get older maybe they don't have a driver license, maybe they don't go to library or things of that nature or have computer skills that would make it easier for them to reregister. So, um I motion that with the exception of the Collins that we approve um these items. We have a second. Second. All those in favor? Point of clarification. Go ahead. Oh, and I have a question too. Go ahead. You you go ahead. Um, so the the motion on the on the floor made was to approve to remove them from the voter roles. The other ones. The other ones. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Katie. Yes. Could you just state what numbers were I'm going by numbers right now. Oh. Um, yes. Those would Oh, number. So, three and four on the Oh, you don't have that. We don't on the agenda. So where does 17 18 19 20 17 through 22. Yes, ma'am. Okay. We have too many. Yeah, we have too many
lists that we're looking at. I apologize. With the exception of 19 and 20. Okay. And we had a a motion by Miss Harden and we had a second. Yes. Is that correct? Joe made a second. All those in favor? I I opposed. Motion carries. Um, Miss Fordier, same thing. We going to table those two. Okay. Make a motion to do that. Yep. Let's um make a motion. Can I get a motion to motion to table Collins? Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. The uh final challenges have to do with the vacant lots, but I do believe um Mr. Rap removed both of those and I think that's um we're finished on those. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Okay. Any other new business? I think we're finished on that board. You good? Okay. Um, Miss Harden is going to, if you're ready, I'm going to go ahead with the important upcoming dates for um, the next couple months. Okay. Upcoming dates. Good Friday holiday will be Friday, April the 18th. That's tomorrow, 2025. SOS elections training in Dallas, Georgia, Monday through Thursday, April the 28th through May 1st of 2025. Deadline to publish advanced voting notice for the June 17, 2025 special primary election will be Monday, May 12th, 2025 board meeting uh will be on Thursday, May 15 of 2025. The deadline for voter registration change of address
for the June 17th, 2025 special primary election will be Monday, May 19th, 2025. The Memorial Day holiday is Monday, May 26, 2025. Special primary election public service commissioner advanced in-person voting begins Tuesday, May 27th, and will continue through Friday, June 13, 2025. The special primary election for public service commissioner district 2 and three will be Tuesday, June 17, 2025. The Nate's Board of Election Registration regular meeting will be Friday, June 20, 2025, 300 p.m. Thank you, Miss Harden. Um, at this time, do we have additional public comments? Okay, being no additional public comments, may we get a motion to adjourn the regular meeting? Move to adjourn. Second. Second. All those in favor? I. Motion carries. Thank you. So
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