City Council Regular - Regular Meeting

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She leaves out of town all the time.

September's here. Yeah, we got less than a minute. I better sit down.

Or after.

That's like kind of killing a whole bunch.

and that Brad Richardson will be presented to you at the end of April.

So September 23rd.

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All immediate order. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Can we have a roll call, please?

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Here. This is the public's opportunity to provide comments to the council. While you may supplement your comments with printed handouts, electronic or digital aids will not be permitted during the public comment. Please state your name and your city of residence. You'll have 10 minutes to speak. Please direct your comments to the council as a whole instead of individual members, staff, or audience members. Please come forward if you're in the chamber to the chairs at the end of the table or raise your hand in the Zoom app Please remember that public comments are not a discussion. The public comments are to inform the Council of your views. Is there anyone in the Chamber that would like to step up? Three minutes.

Ms. Sanders? Kenneth. Good evening, Council. I really don't have a whole lot to say. I'm sure you all are excited for this to be a short one after the marathon. session a couple weeks ago. I just wanted to just put out another reminder about the bad and the ugly bike infrastructure tour that we're holding. I keep calling it that because it's really not much of a bike ride. It's, you know, it's probably, you could probably complete the loop in 20 or 30 minutes. So any, you know, any serious bikers are probably going to be a With talking and all the stops we're making, it'll be a little longer. Really, the great thing is in a pretty short morning, you'll be able to see a very wide range of different types of bike infrastructure that we have right here, just a couple miles away on the border of Canis and Vancouver. It'll be a great opportunity to experience that for yourself and... And just think about what's possible here in Southwest Washington, possibly here in Camas. So that ride will be, again, September 19. That's a week from Saturday. It'll be at 10 AM. I distributed flyers. I have more here. If any of you have lost yours or didn't get one, feel free to come grab one after the meeting. But you're all invited. That's council members, staff, friends, family, anyone that you think might be interested in learning more about different types of bike infrastructure and experiencing that for themselves. Please come out and please let me know if you don't have a bike and would like us to track you down because we don't want anyone to get left out for that reason either. So thank you very much.

Is there anyone else in the chamber?

Brad Richardson, City of Camas. So I'm going to start off because obviously we're a really small community. And so when something happens, I'm sure a lot of us are aware of it and we're wanting to know the best information about what happened. So I just wanted to report from the Port of Camas Washougal is what I'm serving as today. But today, approximately 1.15 p.m., a small aircraft crashed at Grove Field. The pilot was the sole occupant and the pilot is okay. uh the faa and the ntsb did complete their investigation and they gave the all clear and the field is now currently back open so definitely not something we ever want to see coming across our feeds or in an email or in any way but of the outcomes that could have happened this seems seems pretty good um but yeah just to update everyone on that today in case you were wondering about that Now onto some lighter news. The port, we did get together and we started our planning for 2027. So we gathered together with our group and team, continuing to work through the strategic plan that we have. A big part of that is that the port really wants to continue to refine our communication, make sure that when people see things from the port, when people receive emails from the port, when they hear folks from the port talking, that there's one voice that they are hearing from us that helps them understand what is their port doing for them? Why are they investing their tax dollars into the work that we're doing? And what are all these different components that people don't understand? We're working really hard to make sure people know that we're more than a marina and talking about the industrial park, the airport and the waterfront development that we have going on. And so, again, we really worked on that communication piece during our session. It was really great. We were also just talking about our operations, continuing to do some spring cleaning, get things all set up. When it comes to how we're running the institution, we had about 70 policy updates that we did. And so we're continuing to refine procedures and policies that are going to continue to help the community identify the consistent practices that the port has. Again, all aligned with the strategic plan that we have going on. We do have some capital projects that we're signing for 2027, and we're working on our legislative agenda right now. And so moral to be to come around that, but some really great projects. And our preliminary budget presentation, again, we're really about transparency and people being able to come and engage with us. We'll be on October 7th. Then preliminary budget adoption. will be on October 21st. And then the final budget adoption will be on November 18th. So we're thinking way ahead. And if any of you guys want to come and, you know, have fun with some numbers, come join us for all of those. We want people to be a part of the process and hear what we're doing. At the last meeting, we did have a discussion. I'm sure this is another, we're a small town. Another hot topic is the boathouse that we rent out the Airbnb. If you don't know about that, you should check it out. Ran out of my three minutes. Yeah. So thank you.

thank you uh are there any hands raised in the zoo man there are no hands raised in zoom okay with that we'll move on to the consent agenda um what would council do with the consent agenda may i move to approve the consent agenda it was moved by hein and seconded to approve the consent agenda any discussion All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed say nay. Any abstentions? The motion passes. Mayor announcements. David Schultz was a good attorney for this city and today was his funeral and it was well attended. And, uh, it was touching, uh, and we're going to miss him and, uh, he did good work for us. So, uh, just wanted to make that announcement. Um, I don't think we have any more meeting, uh, items. Uh, do you have any, uh, updates?

No staff updates. I think we took care of them earlier.

Okay. And, um, So at this time, we have another opportunity for the public to make comments to the council. While you may supplement your comments with printed handouts, electronic or digital aids will not be permitted during the public comments. Please state your name and your city of residence. You'll have three minutes. Please direct your comments to the council as a whole. Instead of the individual members, staff, or audience members, please come forward if you're in the chamber or raise your hand in the Zoom app. Please remember the public comments are not a discussion. The public comments are to inform the council of your views. Anyone that would like to step up to the end of the chamber.

Is there a three minute gap time requirement?

Brad Richardson, City of Camas. And so, part two, I wanted to finish off on our last meeting. So we had an amazing opportunity to hear from a lot of the people in our community at our last meeting in support of a company, UPC, which is down near the port. And people who came to the meeting were really supportive of their expansion and The port is also really supportive of UPC's expansion, and we're really excited to get together. We have our leadership team and UPC's leadership team discussing coming to the table. So right now, the conversation is just the beginning of negotiations and seeing what is possible to be able to make that expansion happen. You know, again, with the port, we've set our new strategic plan. And so we have policies within that that we want to discuss with their leadership team and ensure that this is the best long term for everybody and all the interests. And, you know, my thought is always, you know, the port district is 102 square miles. We want to raise the quality of life for everyone in 102 square miles. So. We're really excited about the expansion. We're really excited about the growth that UPC is seeing. And we're really, really excited to get together and have good faith conversations and negotiations with them to figure out how to make this pencil. And so we were really happy to hear a lot of folks from our community come out and support. We even saw the Canvas High School robotics team folks come out and talk about that. So, yeah. And if you have any questions, please reach out to our leadership team. I don't think I'm supposed to answer them right now. recover airbnb uh the airbnb did i not finish that one oh we are raising the rates uh on that to be in line with the changes at air and b at airbnb um so what they've done is they've actually taken away the charge that they would give to the person who stays at that and they're putting it all on the host um so we're working to make sure that that doesn't cause a huge issue in the raise of those rates but if you see an increase in that that's the reason for it and uh

yeah if you want to come and enjoy our beautiful river and the boathouse come on down and uh rent the airbnb at the port so yeah other than that i really appreciate the time and i'll give you some time back this time appreciate it is there anyone else in the chamber that would like to have three minutes is there anyone anyone that can speak that will uh ask if there's anybody with their hand It's in the Zoom app. Okay, with that, we will move on to the staff. We have nothing from staff, right? Okay, and Councilmember Elson Gray.

First, a couple of things. I attended the first meeting, the RFA meeting with the fire department. And we elected a very capable chairman, John, who did a fantastic job running the meeting. And we are getting to work. So it's looks like it's going to be a lot of work. But we have a capable leader. And I think we have a lot of things to do. So that was good. I would like to reiterate that on the 26th, same day as the fire department grand opening, We have a lacrimous late cleanup day. That's in the morning. So we have several hundred people already attending, which is great. Lions Club, TSMC, lots of people attending. So go to the cleanup in the morning, and then you can go right to the fire and have a hot dog. I also attended the groundbreaking ceremony for the Lamb Research Facility in Tualatin. Some of you know that I spoke in front of the city council to try to convince them, the Tualatin, to create more jobs and bring more economic prosperity to Oregon, which is losing jobs everywhere except for health care and government. So it was approved, and we had a fabulous groundbreaking ceremony. I got a pen and contained the Constitution of the United States etched in a piece of silicon, so that was really fun. and U.S. Senator Jeff Merkley attended, and U.S. Representative Susan Bonamici also attended, and the Oregon Secretary of State Tobias Reid was there. So it was a great grand opening, and it made me really think of Camas. One of the things that I told the city council is if they wouldn't approve it, that we would welcome them to Camas.

No, no, no.

So I was up to mine on whether they should approve it. But anyway, LAM was very grateful. So they invited me to that ceremony. And it gets me thinking about business development and what else we can do here at Canvas. So that's all I have. Thank you, Mayor. Oh, thank you. Was that LAM, L-A-M-B? LAM Research, L-A-M. It's the second largest, third largest semiconductor. $1.3 billion expansion it.

Okay.

I'll hold that for a couple more seconds. Okay.

Be in line. Thank you, Mayor. Finance meeting was held last week and then we have another one this coming Monday and obviously we've got some key topics on the agenda. A lot of constituent meetings regarding parking, form of government, street maintenance, and then a lot of questions on the crosswalk on Lake Road. C-TRAN meeting is tonight. It's being covered by Tia Robertson, given our conflict. And then, Mayor, thank you for sharing that regarding David. You won't be missed. Thank you. That's all.

Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Eschke.

I have a long list. I just want to give a heads up to everyone. Should I go last maybe?

No, no. We'll just sleep through it.

Well, first of all, thanks, Commissioner Richardson, for giving an update on that. I also sat, and I was in the board of CAMAS Washougo meeting last Wednesday. More than 20 people came in support of UBC aerospace expansion. That was great to hear everyone's comment, and a lot of them were from CAMAS and have the job there, and they appreciate for having job opportunities. So that was great. I also learned that the port has presented their finance status and shows stability and growth. Congratulations. Wanna move to RTC, Regional Transportation Council. We had some good news about Northwest Lackamas Road sidewalk. It's potentially getting the full funding for the engineering phase. The challenge is for Washougal projects. Washougal has two projects I mentioned in the past that the 32nd street overpass, they could not make their application. They asked for extension and it was in July or June and that was approved, but they still cannot meet their application this year. They asked for one year extension. And that was for important reason. mainly due to Federal Railroad Administration that they're behind in responding and administrating funding. So what Washougal needs is RTC to do the policy exception, this policy exception for one year extension. Um, it was a lot of good discussion because technically it will put the whole region that money, uh, is at the risk of the region, uh, lose it if they cannot obligate it on time. Um, so by one year extension, we still have the money in our region, but they really have to obligate it. Otherwise everyone will lose it. So RTC is being creative and in support of that extension. Uh, I, I talk about it and ask the board consider that extension approval. Uh, Vancouver mayor also had a comment in support of that extension. So I'm, I'm positive that, uh, in October, maybe majority approved that. So then sugar can move forward. Um, What else we have here? Well, what I want to say, I want to ask, I want to thank our staff because we heard a lot of projects in like, I would call it naughty list or they could not make the obligations. They were late in letting the informing RTC about their delay. None of them were chemists. So I'm like, thank you. Thank you, Scott and staff. Our applications are receiving high score and also we're not getting any negative score.

Clearly in his group do a great job. So just tell me it's curly in his group.

The other, last thing for RTC, again, ODOT massive construction for I-5 Rose Quartet Classic starts this week. They want everyone to know. It was September 9, but I heard today it's going to be September. So that's going to cause a lot of congestion for whoever travels from our side to Portland. I'm going to move. Okay, should I keep going? Keep going. The last thing I want to talk, actually, no, one of the last things, is the Georgia Pacific cleaning. I was listening to some of our community member concerns. I want to understand more about where is the gap? So I had the opportunity to meet with our community Hamas Earth Society, Mr. Freeman, and also our staff, Alan Peter. So I appreciate everyone's time educating me on the approach. I want to make sure we are in the right path. Ecology has all the tools down the road to require for unrestricted cleaning without being challenged by Georgia Pacific, legally challenged down the road. And I think I have here, maybe Council Member Burke can talk more, but I was shared a good letter from Ecology. Maybe I'll pass it to you to talk about it. And then maybe at the end, come back to me. I have a question for Scott. Thank you.

Okay, thank you. Council Member Burke.

Many thanks. First, I get to sit... on the Chamber of Commerce meetings as the Council liaison. It's always educational and fun. It's a fun, lively group of people who like to get things done. So a couple things, and I quote the Executive Director, that the Chamber is adding new members like crazy. That's what you said. Their stretch goal was 55,000 in dues, and they're at 52,000 now, so that's really great. chemist days that we had grossed $140,000, which is fantastic. I also learned that burgers and grooves on 192nd, they have wing Wednesdays when there's only 25 cents. I did not know that.

Wednesdays. Wednesday.

So whatever, maybe all day. I don't know. The chamber luncheon is coming up on September 23rd and our own Brad Richardson right here will be presenting, um, as a representative of the Clark County Historical Society, so that's very exciting, at Washougal Times. Those run from 1130 to 1. Delicious food and great company. The midweek mixer for the Chamber is tomorrow at the Windermere Crest Building from 4 to 6 p.m.

Okay, that's the one thing.

Now, second thing, RFA. So, Councilor Elzingra brought that up. met Councilor Rosengrey, myself, and John Norris on that team and three members from the Washtenaw City Council. So we adopted temporary policies and procedures and things like that. We divided into finance committee and then policies and procedures committee. As you can imagine, I'm on the policies and procedures committee because I'm not on the finance. Thank you very much. That was exciting news. It was exciting to get started on that. I had not met Tia Robertson before, so I met her and then Michelle, so Michelle, John and I sat together on the, and Barney Corner sat together on the inception of the RFA. So it's nice to have the band back together. Councillor Knorr and I have a resident in our ward. Her name is Caitlin and she had this really interesting idea I want to throw out and it's really kind of going to come to you eventually if it can possibly happen. But, you know, the corner of Fifth and Birch is very, very dangerous. It feels very dangerous because the way the parking spots are, you have to get out into the intersection before you can see if anyone's coming from either side. So Caitlin had this idea. about maybe doing a pilot where we wouldn't construct bump-outs, but maybe we would paint bump-outs. Some kind of a pilot maybe involves some students to do kind of an art project or something like that. I thought that was a really great idea. Anytime you can calm traffic, I think that's a great in that particular intersection. So I'll touch base with you and we can talk more about that. Odyssey Middle School, home of the Griffins. That is a project-based learning middle school that is now housed in the same building as Discovery High School. So it's a 612 program at Hendrickson Drive. And last year, the Odyssey was one of 10 schools in the United States of America to contribute to a project called We Are America. And so a book was published based on that project with 10 middle schools in the United States of America. Actually, 10 schools. Save it. Robert Moore is a teacher up there. He contacted me and said, hey, would you like a copy of the book? I would like to propose that we have some Odyssey students come and talk about that project to us. And then they'd like to present the city with that book. So can I work with the clerks perhaps to get that on a future agenda?

So okay with me, but handouts? Yeah, it'll be cool. It's exciting.

Okay, I'll do that. And then... I was excited to hear about the discussion about potentially partnering with the campus school district for that property known as formerly known as unreaders laboratory. There's a gigantic building with lots and lots of space up there. And way back in the day when we first acquired that when I was an employee of the school district, we had toyed with this idea of having a civic center there school district administration and our city people working together. Imagine how efficient that might be, right, and how we could strengthen that partnership. And so I was excited to hear that come up today. There is already a boardroom in that facility. I've been in there many times, lots of workspace. So that was exciting to hear about that tonight. And then lastly, I wanted to comment on or add to what Councillor Eshke was saying about the mill cleanup. Now, this has been a saga for many, many years. Like, we're aware of it. We have people who are passionate about that project, and that mill property is private property. know we don't have access to that and maybe someday we you know they might decide to decommission that and sell some of that property or something but right now that's not the case nonetheless we've been discussing you know cleanup potential cleanup and as you know buildings you know come down they're decommissioning some of those buildings that provides property that can be sampled right there's not a building on it anymore we can sample that property and so the the administrators at the mill have submitted a plan to the Department of Ecology, and this has been a long-going process. They submit a plan, and Ecology maybe responds. Ecology, I realize, is not a person. The Department of Ecology cannot in itself respond, right? So there's this back-and-forth communication, and now there's a plan in place to begin sampling fairly soon the property that's available to be sampled. Well, so this controversy has been You know going on about how like, how can we as a city contribute to a level of cleanup that we would like to see as property within our city right and so. discussion about zones and codes and you know how, how can we. ensure that the Department of Ecology is aware that we're looking at unrestricted cleanup for that property should have become available and so. the mayor wrote a letter to the Department of Ecology and stated that we would appreciate unlimited cleanup on that because we might use it for social purposes. We might put a school there. We might put a restaurant there, right? If it ever becomes available, I want to be very respectful to the mill that our town was founded around, right? And so recently, there was a communication between the Department of Ecology that I was copied on, and I wanted to read it into the record because it's kind of... it's this assurance that we've been looking for. So what this representative, Maddie Lyon is her name, ecology required Georgia Pacific to select unrestricted screening levels during the remedial investigation phase of the cleanup. Because the city of Kamas includes residential and school use within their heavy industrial zoning code, ecology considers the property zone for unrestricted use. Bam, that's what we've been hoping for, and I wasn't sure we would get it, but we got it. And so that's just, I mean, it's just a relief to not have to worry about that specific thing anymore. It's all right.

Thank you.

That's a mic drop while I'm there.

Mike, you're right. Yeah. We're coming back to you at the end.

Okay. Okay. Council Member School-Large. Thank you, Mayor. I just have a couple of quick things, unlike most of my colleagues. That was a jab on purpose. A reminder that rescheduled car show is this Saturday. from two to seven. And then on Sunday is the second annual walk and roll where Leadbetter Road is closed. And you can tour, people can tour the Camp Curry or the Johnson Farm and also just run down the road. So both good events.

Yeah, thank you. Council Member Sonescu.

I don't have anything further than what everybody's been mentioning. So thank you.

Okay, Council Member Knorr.

Just briefly, I just want to mention the RFA formation. And of course, I had something pulled up here on that. So the first meeting took place on, is it Monday? I'm losing my days. Today is Monday. Happened on Wednesday. Thank you. It happened on Wednesday. Meetings will occur on the first and third Tuesdays of the month at 4 p.m. at Station 42 in Grass Valley. If it happens to conflict with this meeting, because occasionally through the year, our meetings get moved to Tuesday due to a holiday, then the RFA will bump their meeting so that council members can attend this meeting. We'll probably bump it up to earlier in the day. The only member that didn't get mentioned was Dave Plinsky. He is a council member in Washougal. So that makes the six members. It will need to attrition over the next couple of years down to five members. And that's all in the RFA plan. I do want to mention that Chief Free and Deputy Chief Ford have been doing a lot of work to get this agency stood up. It's not very often that you have an agency like this that takes shape. And the vast majority, there's 19 RFAs. in the state of Washington, making up nearly 50 organizations that have merged over the years into the RFAs. But they almost always merged with an existing fire district that had all of the structure in place, the governance structure, the personnel you need to run it. And so Chief Free and Chief Ford are working hard to do their jobs as being the chiefs of the department here, while also trying to get a lot of other things done. And it's a tremendous workload on them. So I think that we need to do what we can to Harmon Zuckerman, Help support them get to where they need to beat it to have that entity ready to go on January one. I did want to mention Harmon Zuckerman, That one of my committee. Harmon Zuckerman, Assignments, which is liaison to the DCA is in conflict because they generally have their meetings on Tuesdays. Is it Will it be in conflict? I think it will. I may need to ask for that to be reassigned or talk to the chair of the DCA and see if they want to reschedule their meetings. Too many meetings, people. Too many meetings. Anyway, glad to get that up and going. Casey Jones will be the clerk to the board. Assignments were made and I look forward to reporting back on how that progress is going. Thank you. Thank you.

I overlooked one thing I wanted to tell everybody about because it happens before our next meeting. On the 20th, it's Race to Cure ALD. And until I met Terry Weiner, who served on our former government committee, I met her at a separate event and found out. I learned a little bit about this event for 10-year-old sons, this disease. It's an incurable cancer or infection. No, no cure for 10 year old son suffers from it. They're holding a run, walk and gather play event at get together farm, which you wouldn't might know is john Spencer's business. So just a heads up, you can find it it's if you have some time on a day to go out and support them. It's pretty, pretty wild thing. So September 20. On a Sunday. I think it's all day.

There is a link to register. I can share if you want.

I think I am registered by my wife.

It's a race.

It's also a walk. A 5K run or a one-mile walk.

One or five miles depends on how athletic you are. It's starting 9.30 a.m. and goes to 2 p.m.

Thank you.

Coming back to me. Thank you. So I'm attending a lot of these events. There's a lot of things happening in September. One thing I ask Doug is maybe in the future we separate our fire department open house, a different day from Lackamaslee clinic. Because last year, I remember they're on the same day. This year is also on the same time and day on almost. But I'm not going to miss either. I'm going to go clean and calm for a moment. Your time. The other one is on September 17. We have town hall for the second town hall for the discussion. This one is over Zoom only, as I'm understanding, right? It's here. The town hall is over Zoom, yeah.

It's here.

It's only remote, right? Oh, no, no. It's in person as well. Oh, then I'm glad I...

Okay.

The location, maybe...

Here. At the City Hall. Thank you. I forgot to mention.

I'm glad I mentioned because I would be over Zoom. Which is OK. I know. I always like in person if I can. What I want to talk about is the follow up on PFAS treatment and if Scott can give us some updates on where we are with the water quality construction, plan for future next steps, future maintenance. or also today or another time, I'd like to learn what we have done to know the source of contamination. If we haven't, do we have plan to do that? Thank you.

Yeah, so well, 13 is moving along. They just installed the generator. The electrical panels were just hooked up, so those were getting shipped out. Electrical contractor will be out there. Currently right now, the project's estimated to complete around May or June. So it's coming close up to that summer. Critical item, I believe, is a pump that's getting delivered in January. That's the critical path forward. We did chat with, I chatted with Rob last week as part of chatting with the contractor. Contingency's looking pretty good on that project. So can we expedite anything, right, with the contractor as well and what that cost would be like just to make sure we can hit it above the summer months, so we don't have to turn it back on. So that's kind of current status of Well 13 PFAS mitigation plan. We do have a draft report that went to the City. We just received our groundwater modeling report last week. So that plan is getting finalized. We were coordinating with the consultant as far as what to come here to present to Council. Currently, we're tentatively scheduled for November 2nd to present that report. We'd also do an in-depth overview of Well 13 as well, just on status for that. As far as sourcing, currently, that's not part of our scope to look at sourcing. I think the initial scope was really to look at, okay, how are we going to mitigate this? What's the city going to do to correct the issue going on? Now, part of the PFAS mitigation report does identify I don't want to say it's tracing, but what they're looking at is from the groundwater, from where our wells are collecting the water from, where the path of that water comes from, and if it goes through a historical PFAS use site. Consultant will then identify high-risk areas for the city, meaning this area is a high risk of PFAS potential sourcing, maybe medium or low, and it can prioritize based off of the path. But we're not specifically looking at where the PFAS is coming from. With that report, if the city wishes, then we can take that information and then start a PFAS sourcing if we wanted to go down that route. I don't know what costs and things look like on that. Part of that is with our water system plan update. We're going to be looking at rates next year. Water has a ton of capital projects in there. The The lower well-filled PFAS container is a $60 million project, right? That's just one project, part of a lot of capital projects that need to go in. So a lot more discussion to come on PFAS for sure. Thank you.

I guess this is the path we are going first, just to have the treatment system focusing on that to be finished, constructed, because that's the very first thing we need. But then also source control is important because if we keep receiving PFAS, then it's going to be very expensive maintenance down the road. It's just these systems are new and expensive. So just want to make sure we have plan for future maintenance because it can be unexpectedly expensive.

We have O&M costs, too, that were attributed with that, as we had to report with the auditing. We were one of the first cities, actually, in southwest Washington, with the auditors, that will have a PFAS treatment up and going next year. We have those costs, which I can share, which are slightly lower than a million dollars, just for the maintenance piece. But that's with the ion resin getting, you know... replaced. And I heard that can last many years, not annually. So I think the cost we could we have those costs that we can share with council as well.

That's good. But while you have consultant on board, you may for free, ask them for input on the next phase. If you want to check into the source of effort is that they will at least give you some idea how much it take how much time it takes. And how much effort it needs. Thank you.

Okay, thank you. I think with that, it's time to close the meeting. Does anyone have any other comments or questions?

Okay, with that, we will close this meeting.

Congratulations.