Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, March 12, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning & Zoning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning & Zoning Commission
Location
Caldwell, ID
Meeting Date
March 12, 2025

Transcript

63 sections

2:55 – 4:54Speaker 1

all right it's 6 o' I'm going to call this meeting to order um this is the um planning zoning commission regular meeting Wednesday March 12 2025 roll call please Zamora here Harmon here Bros here Larson here Whitbeck here we have the full commission tonight so we'll move on on the agenda any conflict of interest declarations from any Commissioners no no see none moving on no special presentations that leads us to our first action item um item four consent calendar um I would any questions comments on consent calendar uh which is the minutes for our last meeting no hearing no questions uh I would entertain a motion to approve so moved commissioner Larson and second for commissioner Harmon uh all those in favor say I I I any oppose motion carries all right so that moves us to review of the opening procedure so this is the regular schedule meeting for the C Planning and Zoning commission we serve both in a decision-making capacity and an advisory capacity for the mayor and city council there are two types of of public hearings that this commission conducts the first is a legislative hearing whereby we formulate recommendations on certain land use requests our recommendations are there forward on to the city council who makes the decisions on legislative manners the second Ty is the quas judicial hearing which includes a consideration of a land use request such as an annexation reason classification or approval of a Subdivision prary plat um the public hearing procedures are required by Ido code are as follows or on rent testimony will be accepted by those who have signed up to speak prior to the hearing be being declared open when public testim when providing public testimony please provide please come up to the podium and state your name and address which will be included in the record staff will first present a report regarding the application being considered um then this is followed by the public testimony where the applicant or applicants representative will have uh will be able to present a summary uh of their request for no more than 10 minutes testimony of those in support

4:53 – 6:52Speaker 1

will be taken followed by those in a neutral position find those in opposition um for No More Than 3 minutes the applicant will then be offer offered an opportunity for rebuttal after that um we'll close public testimony and the public portion of that public hearing and no new oral rent testimony will be allowed so with that um move on there's no old business so our next item is item seven on the agenda new business is action item case number Z8 25- 000000001 St report please good evening uh Commissioners Robin Collins community development director city of Caldwell we're here tonight to present to you the proposed zoning ordinance text amendments um these are the same amendments that you uh we went through at the last meeting in the workshop we've made a few changes to those based on commission's comments um and suggestions um so we're going to go through the presentation because this took four hours last time we're not going to go through it as in DET detail in some of the chapters unless the commission wishes us to go further in detail um for the public we'll go through some of those chapters that are more relevant to the public um like the Landscaping the density those types of things the first few chapters where it's more administrative and policy stuff we're just going to touch on that um but if you have any questions again please feel free to to ask us so again just for your purposes um because I know commissioner Herman wasn't here last time and for the public um recap this is a continuation of what we talked about uh last year and the year before about a whole bunch of amendment packages coming forward in pieces for chapter 10 and chapter 11 which is the zoning and subdivision regulations right now we're primarily focused on the zoning regulations but you'll see a few little changes in here that we mentioned at the last meeting

6:51 – 8:51Speaker 1

for subdivisions um again we held workshops with the council to communicate and discuss substantial amendments and this is amendment p package number two purpose of the Amendments again is just to reorganize and reformat so that's why you're going to see a lot of changes tonight and we'll go through that in a second because we are reformatting the code and to do that there's a lot of moving parts and pieces that have to happen at one time there's a lot of minor and editorial revisions to the code mainly to resolve conflicts inconsistencies lack of clarity redundancies you know over the years a lot of changes have been made to the code and when you make a lot of changes like that sometimes that happens and you got to go back and review the whole thing um some of the changes are to refect current policies procedures and practices also to implement our new comprehensive plan that was just adopted update outdated code sections make the code more efficient and to put Provisions in the code where we didn't have those Provisions where we were struggling with those when certain projects come in so now we've added some code sections where the code was previously CED these are all the moving Parts just going to go through this really quickly so you have a whole bunch of chapters here basically we're starting with chapter 10 article 12 we need to move that into article 8 to free that up the reason we want to free that up is article 12 is going to contain all of our specific use provisions so those are specific to a use so they have more requirements than the Baseline requirements and so on the next group of bubbles there you'll see that all of those article um 2 three 4 five six will be freed up as we move things around um and we'll move those to that article 12 because those are a lot of specific use provisions um and then it'll free up

8:47 – 10:47Speaker 1

sections 2 four five and six um and then on the bottom bubble you'll have article seven and article 8 which will be freed up because those will be moved into article two and I know this probably doesn't mean anything to you right now because I'm just talking about articles but basically we're moving stuff around to make more sense so things were spread out through the code so you could go to the code in five different sections and find something about an R1 zoning District we're trying to move everything that has to do with residential districts into one article everything that has to do with commercial into one article and that's where you'll see this right here so to do that we have to move a lot of stuff around to be able to reformat the code like this um and then those specific use provisions you know there are different articles throughout the code different sections that had specific conditions for say like temporary uses or home occupations and we're moving those all into one section so people know where to go to find it and they don't have to like try to figure out where it is in the code so we're going to go through some of the minor amendments first um kind of like we did in the workshop the ones that are highlighted when we go through this we're going to save those till the end because those are more detailed those will be the ones like the multif family development code the landcaping code um the density bonus program so we'll wait till the end to kind of go into detail with those so chapter 10 article one um this is pretty much the main chapter of the code this is where it creates the ordinances we just have a lot of editorial amendments to this this is more administratively it doesn't have any impact to the public um in this particular chapter uh we're moving a lot of stuff out of this chapter and just kind of reformatting the look of it at the end of this chapter the only thing that does have applicability to the

10:44 – 12:40Speaker 1

public would be the definition section we throughout the code like every article in the code had its own set of definitions we moved all the definitions from all those articles into one specific location um there some comments from the Commissioners last time on on definitions so we did go back changed some of the definitions made sure we started them like for instance impact fees then the the subtitle after it so it's clarifies what that definition goes to so we made those changes as asked um in article two this is our um our actual zoning District uh chapter it's this chapter is supposed to have regulations that are applicable to all zoning districts regardless of what you're in um and so we out of this chapter we deleted the land use schedules um the reason we did that is again because we created the articles for residential districts commercial districts and whatever um and those land use schedules will be moved over into those specific articles so they'll have their own land use schedule and we'll talk about that a little bit later um we did go through we uh move regulations again for accessory uses um I think oh the sign regulations yeah in this chapter did have the sign regulations we did redo all of the sign code regulations um there is case law out there where people have actually been sued because they have tried to regulate the content of signs and the planning case law says you cannot regulate the content of what they say on a sign it has to be content it has to be content neutral so we had to read do our entire sign code to make it content neutral the biggest changes we made to the sign code is we are no longer

12:36 – 14:33Speaker 1

allowing pole signs within the city with the exception of um within 500 feet of the interstate or the highways um and that would be your billboard signs but these tall freestanding signs that just have a single poll or even a double pull we're no longer allowing those it's not that we're taking away the allow for a tall sign but we're saying it has to be a monument sign it can be 15t tall or 25 ft tall but it has to be Monument so you're going to have a nice base on it you're not going to see these polls so just kind of trying to dress things up a little bit um the other thing that's probably the biggest change is that we're no longer allowing Standalone reader board signs all over the place you can still have a reader board but it has to be part of your freestanding sign you can't just have a reader board out there all by itself um and then we made some editorial changes for clarity um the other biggest change on the signs is on freestanding signs in the code there was just this random sizing for whatever we did some studies on how to size signs appropriately and there is a direct correlation with the size of a sign and the height of a sign based on the type of roadway and the speed limit um so we've Incorporated a table within our code that talks about the size of a sign and the height based on whether it's a major arterial whether it's a collector whether it's a local roadway um Etc and again we'll get into the parking regulations in more detail as we go along any questions so far okay so again in article two we made some minor changes to the fencing regulations relocated again some of those specific use provisions home occupations and daycare into article 12 we move Provisions for landscaping buffering and

14:31 – 16:30Speaker 1

screening into 10209 um we relocated Wireless communication facilities into article 12 and then the last four sections that you see on the screen um because we relocated those we've deleted those sections out of this article because they're no longer valid article three is our Administrative Code um this is where you have a lot of the administrative processes um and things like that minor editorial edits to clarify special use permit processes in their expiration dates um this is was to provide more clarity we didn't really change anything in those expiration dates or um the edits that we did for the process it just didn't read right um and so we kind of rewarded it um in this section we did add Provisions to better explain the design review process in the current code the design review is only applicable in the downtown district in the city city center area we are going to expand that to design review being required in all of the downtown districts you'll also see as we get further along in the Amendments that a lot of the overlay areas are going to require design review so like along your major gateways and corridors um in your historic districts in um some of your Scenic districts like Indian Creek cor or those types of things are going to require design review and then this is where we put the new section on the density bonus program um and Joe will go through that in more detail here in just a minute we did not make any changes to Article 4 are you excited about that we left one article without changes um we're going to start with article just this common Amendment section so this is in article 5-9 again 5 through n is where we'll

16:28 – 18:27Speaker 1

have have residential districts commercial districts manufacturing districts um Urban core districts and special purpose districts these things that are shown on the screen are common amendments throughout all of them so obviously we created the intent the zoning District name table the explanation of the land use table the zoning purpose statements we moved from article one but we did make some changes to those to better reflect what those zoning districts should detail based on what we're currently seeing but also the new comp plan that was adopted we created land use tables and dimensional standards tables specific to each district um some land uses were Consolidated into a main category we had and for instance I know you missed this last time commissioner Harmon we have a plethora of definitions right now in our code for retail retail this retail that and a lot of it was like retail is retail is retail unless you have a specific type of retail you don't like um and so we categorized retail based more on square footage because that's really where you get the impact is how large that retail store is but there were some that we left out because we knew that those were of concern to the commission or the council like um tobacco vape stores to leave those separate so that those could require an Su but most of the other ones like you know a shoe store and a a general grocery store versus a um convenience store we just put those into retail General categories um one of the biggest changes with this one which we felt was really great was in our current code multi multifam starts at seven dwelling units or more which can be problematic right if you want to introduce some additional

18:25 – 20:24Speaker 1

multif family development requirements we've changed the Cod now or we're proposing to change it tonight with you guys um that multif family starts at three dwelling units so Triplex and up is considered multif family what that'll do is it'll trigger any Triplex and up to meet the new multif family development code section which just has some additional criteria that Joe will go through on some landscaping and buffering and you know how the building should be placed on this site and what they look like um what happens when they're next to single family those types of things things we split Town Homes into two categories we did three or less or four or more this was done specifically just to better regulate mass and scale because sometimes you get um what I would call like Row Housing or you know eight town homes in a row sometimes that can look pretty big so if you put those in different categories you can regulate them a little bit differently um we added some important critical footnotes some textt for clarity we did change the way stepb backs are measured our Co code currently tells you to measure the setbacks from the back of this curb the back of the sidewalk um and in most instances you should be measuring it from the property line so we've kind of changed that language a little bit in there there's still some allowances based on certain cases but for the most part they're measured from the back of your property line and then we changed the way we measure height of buildings so in here you'll see we increased building Heights by like five feet but we really didn't increase the building Heights by 5T we just changed how we measure it because in the current code it says like for instance residential is 25 feet high but it's measured to the average roof height what we've done is said 30 foot high but we're measuring to the highest peak of the roof because it just makes more sense it's easier to measure and you get a a more accurate measurement some of the other common

20:22 – 22:22Speaker 1

amendments to land uses we created a couple categories for mixed use so a small scale is your vertical mixed use your large scale is horizontal mixed use could have some small scale in it but it's it's a bigger project we created a category for Emergency Shelters and we talked a little bit about this last meeting um we never really had a a separate category for domestic violence trafficking and sexual exploitation shelters and all other shelters in the code are sus we put this in there because we put it as an outright permitted use and that's for the safety of the survivors that are in those facilities um we added a category for Community Gardens uh Correctional detention facilities we did this one also because most of the public facilities in there maybe a permitted use but we felt like a correctional Detention Facility probably needs a little bit more review um and some conditions on it so we created a separate category cottage industries these are very similar to a Craftsman Artisan type manufacturing except this is specific to single family homes so where a home occupation you can't sell stuff out of your house at a home occupation in a cottage industry you're allowed to sell some things from that home and those are allowed in some zones not all but like your tra traditional neighborhood or residential that's in a downtown district it makes sense to have that as an allowed um we also added a dwelling caretaker um we added a category for boutique hotels the difference between that and Standard Hotel is just the room count so being able to regulate a boutique hotel where it has less than 100 rooms versus a hotel that you might see in downtown Boise that has you know 500 rooms just to be able to regulate that a little differently same thing with longterm extended stay hotels wanted the opportunity to regulate that a little differently because when people

22:21 – 24:19Speaker 1

stay in those it is different right they're there for longer periods of time you don't have the the turnover um so thought it might be good to regulate those separately we added a category for cottage courts and housing we never really had one before this is those little patio homes um that maybe they have a common space in the middle and they're sharing that common space as kind of their back patio backyard kind of area we added a definition and a land use category for a live work unit this is where you would actually have to live upstairs have your business downstairs um and there are restrictions on what percentage of that can be your business and that type of thing um Flex space it's it's an entrepreneurial incubator is what we call it it's kind of where you can have office showroom or retail kind of in the front and maybe you've got some Warehouse or little small Manufacturing in the back but it's really for those entrepreneurs that don't have the clientele or just don't have the money yet to buy a a um you know a sight built structure that's out there a brick and mortar building and so this is a good way for them to start um we already allow mobile food units but we didn't have anything that really talked about a mobile food unit park or Court those are getting very trendy and popular so we have added something in the code for that retail sales lots um these have been interesting those this is one of those it was silent in the code and we realized we needed something these are like where you have a lot and they want to put a bunch of storage sheds out there and sell them or a lot that sells mobile homes or a lot that sells tiny homes and what does that really look like you know because you've got bigger structures now that are just sitting there and a lot of sitting on pavement with nothing we added a category for day shelter which could include a lot of

24:17 – 26:12Speaker 1

things it could include Social Services um for low-income people or somebody that needs um you've seen some places where they have ability for them to take a shower if somebody can't take a shower we did add something in there for that we talked about Emergency Shelters and then we added um upic Farms because those are pretty trendy and our code was pretty silent on those as well any questions so far I know I'm going fast but I'm trying to make it not a 4-Hour meeting again for you guys okay Article Five so this is the residential zoning District article so in this one we we Provisions for manufactured homes and developments were moved out of here to article 12 all regulations that were specific to all of the r districts the rs1 through R3 were moved from various sections of the code into this central location in this chapter we did reduce the minimum lot size for R2 and R3 zones only which made sense because the square footage that was in there was really more relevant to a single family R1 neighborhood and not to do that higher density R2 R3 so it better aligns with that um we did add a density table um we kept a footnote though as discussed with city council that the R1 zone is prohibited from density bonuses so even though the comp plan showed you know a density bonus you know it was a recommendation the code is not going to allow for density bonuses in the R1 Zone so if somebody wanted to do a density increase they'd have to come in reone which would come before you guys um and then we added a density bonus explanation for the R2 and R3

26:12 – 28:12Speaker 1

zones we also made multif family with seven or more units and Su at the council level that was a request by Council that anything that is a large multif family development they want to see it at the council level so we have changed that some of the big changes that we made to address that missing middle housing and affordable housing is we made accessory dwelling units of permitted use with any single family home of course there are restrictions on it there are size restrictions and height restrictions and placement restrictions um we made duplexes of permitted use in the rs1 rs2 and R1 Zone um we made an allowance for neighborhood commercial uses this was a big one and this was brought up during the comp plan where people were saying that in the residential neighborhoods they really want to see more commercial so that they're not having to drive long distances to have Neighborhood Services um so we've made an allowance it was in the comp plan but it's also in the code now where along major intersections or Highway frontages you could have neighborhood Commercial Services like you could have a little restaurant you could have a little coffee coffee shop you could have a dentist so that you don't have all this residential and no Services nearby we did keep the tattoo and body parene Studios with an Su um and then storage units we did make those an Su but we added an allowance in there if they're internal to a residential development and not open to the public and they're only serving the residents of the development then it could be a permitted use as part of the development any questions on residentials so far okay article six is our commercial zoning districts so again we mov the provisions for RV parks into article 12 all the regulations for the C1 C2 C3 C4 and Highway Corridor Zone we moved

28:10 – 30:10Speaker 1

into this article we did reduce some of the front setbacks and rear yard setbacks in the C1 Zone the reason we did this is to accommodate putting those buildings closer to the street and the parking behind the buildings it's more aesthetically pleasing it also creates a more pedestrian environment which is what you want in those C1 neighborhoods and then the density you'll see a density chart in there but you'll also see that it's only applicable to projects in the highway Corridor Zone because Highway Corridor is the only one that allows for residential to be a part of it so even in the comp plan where it said like a C1 C2 C3 is a compatible zoning District in the mixed use designation if somebody wanted to do resid IAL mixed Ed they would have to rezone to Highway Corridor and we would have an opportunity to see that also again made multifam and Su at the council level we deleted the allowance for manufactured and mobile homes in the commercial zones I don't know why that was still in the code to allow any residential in a commercial Zone but we deleted that um again storage units we made those an Su at the council level that was at their Direction and then we did split some definitions into uh two categories to allow us to regulate the intensity like Fitness facilities you have a large or small scale fitness facility um mixed use again small scale large scale equipment repair and service because there's different kinds of equipment repair you could have tractors versus you know a lawn mower so we want to be able to regulate those differently um and then we split breweries into small scale large scale and also distilleries into small scale large scale any questions on Commercial am I

30:08 – 32:08Speaker 1

going too fast okay article seven is our manufacturing and Industrial zoning districts um this used to be the Landscaping section so we moved Provisions for landscaping in Article 2 we moved everything that had to do with the M1 M2 and IP which is our Industrial Park zoning designations into this article we did add a provision for all industrial land uses to be in in an enclosed building if they're within 500 ft of a residential district or structure because we felt like that was necessary because a lot of like the M1 Zone in the urban renewal area there are some Custom Homes out there mixed in with the M1 M2 we wanted to protect them so that there was no outdoor industrial uses within 500 feet of them um we did add a minimum front yard and rear yard setback um because there wasn't one and we also added a footnote that if you are adjacent to a residential property your setback has to increase to 40 ft again trying to protect those those existing residential neighborhoods that are currently in mixed in with that urban runal area and then we added the maximum height requirement also if you're Lo located next to residential unless you want to obtain an Su for a height that exception um because in the industrial zoning there's no height maximums and so we left that in there um in this land use table and maybe I'm already going to talk about it yep I was getting ahead of myself add an allowance for compatible commercial uses within the Zone this complies with the comprehensive plan we already had some commercial uses that were allowed in industrial zones but we retook a li retook a look at the land use schedule and there's a lot more commercial uses that are compatible with light industrial uses especially in today's day cuz like even a brewery is considered light industrial and so

32:07 – 34:05Speaker 1

there's a there's a lot of uses that's compatible with that we changed where some of the uses are allowed um based on like M1 is supposed to be your light to medium industrial and M2 being your more intense and what we found when we went to their land use schedule is that a lot of the existing land uses there was Heavy dust heavy industrial uses allowed in the M1 zone so we've changed that and made sure that that all aligns appropriately where they should be again deleted land uses that are not compatible in an industrial Zone um like manufactured and mobile homes were allowed in an industrial zone so we deleted that and again we made storage units require an sup at the council level Urban core zoning districts this term will be new to you um what this is is this is the downtown and the traditional neighborhood so in the in the current code you know it as uh Central business district and mixed use districts we've just retitled them to Urban Corp because it sounds really cool and we moved the tree ordinance out of this into article two and we moved all regulations applicable to downtown into this article as I mentioned at the last Workshop this article took a lot a lot of cleanup and I think I was supposed to turn this over to you wasn't I sorry this article took a lot of cleanup because in our current code they really never they didn't they never had a Central Business zoning District that was ever established um they had overlays that they were that should have been overlays that that were never established so we had to go back and and fix a lot of code stuff um we created a minimum lot size in the traditional neighborhood it didn't have one um we incl uded minimum stories for new construction in the downtown that's consistent with the

34:03 – 36:01Speaker 1

current design guidelines that we have adopted and the comp plan it's just some of this stuff never got put in there um we increased the setbacks in the traditional neighborhood we reduce the maximum height in the traditional neighborhood from 55 to 40 um and the traditional neighborhood is now considered a transitional area from our downtown because it's a mixed juuse area too very similar to the downtown small log it's kind of cottage looking um could repurpose a lot of those things for a commercial um we changed some of the text within the design standards for downtown from should to shall um again I don't know why you would have design requirements in the code that say should so we changed them to shall um one thing I mentioned last time that may not be popular um in the code but we are proposing that vacant lot in the downtown um if they're unutilized for 180 days that they be landscaped similar to a pocket park or Ur Urban Garden to uh prevent slum and blight and this is in the city center area we are proposing prohibiting chain link in the downtown except for construction sites um we created a more robust property and building maintenance section for downtown we Revis the parking standards in the downtown when you take a first glance at it you may be like whoa cuz it says that you would meet half of the requirement of the arig of the regular parking standards but actually Joe will talk about that he's beefed up the parking standards a lot in the regular section and meeting half of that is actually a lot more than what's currently in the code but what we did say is that you have to meet full parking standards for residential so no reduction for multifamily or apartments in the downtown you've got to be able to

36:00 – 37:59Speaker 1

park them um again we revised the entire sign section we're no longer allowing freestanding signs which in this within the city center because we want them to be more pedestrian scale um we are going to require all properties in the downtown to comply with the design standards prohibiting flood lights except within alleys and you'll see in the code there's a whole bunch of photos and Landscaping and tree species that was in our downtown Master framework plan but it never got put into the code and we've been scratching our head for I don't know how many years like why is there no Landscaping requirements in downtown you know and stuff well now it's in there um so I think that'll be a good change again multif family Su at Council level we remove the allowance for gas stations car washes warehouse and body shops in downtown and the traditional neighborhood um those are just not aesthetically pleasing land uses in a downtown environment prohibited drive-throughs in the downtown City Center uh we are encouraging walkup Windows um in the downtown made clubs and lodges and churches and Su in the downtown and traditional neighborhood Zone made triplexes forp plexes and small scale multifamily permitted in the traditional neighborhood um but made triplexes and fourplexes not permitted in the Downtown City Center and an Su in the central business and then we prohibited duplexes in the downtown zones and we made large hotels in Su in the downtown zone so Boutique is allowed but if you're over that 100 rooms we want to take a look at it see what it looks like prohibited liquor stores in the downtown only in the city center uh prohibited retail sales with gas stations in the traditional neighborhood made auto repair a prohibited use in the traditional

37:58 – 39:56Speaker 1

neighborhood um there were some other things that we when we get to the overlay we'll talk about that is also prohibiting stuff in the traditional neighborhood like car cells and stuff because again it's a traditional neighborhood it's an urban neighborhood those are not the types of uses that we want to see in that neighborhood and then we made Standalone private parking lots prohibited in the traditional neighborhood and Downtown City Center um because if you're going to have just asphalt black top in your downtown those should be public parking lots and not just for private use so we're showing those as prohibited and I'm going to turn this over to Joe because I kind of stole the show and I was supposed to let him come up here sooner it's all good did you guys have any questions so far on what I went through Commissioners I had a quick question I was trying to look at the if there were fence yeah thank you chair F fence clarifications for downtown and I just I saw that you limited it but I didn't see that you actually specified what types are allowed so it would come just out of our fencing regulations which is another section okay but in here we specifically did say chain link is prohibited um except for construction sites and then if you're going to use chain link on a construction site you have to have the black fabric gotta yeah okay thank you thank you to I'm pretty sure that City Center also does have some regulations regarding design review yeah I think when you get further into the design stuff it has it yeah yeah because it's supposed to look pretty right m uh so next article will be article nine this is our special purpose zoning districts that's also a new term for the city this is kind of pulled from the comp plan but it makes sense it's for all those districts that are not a standard residential commercial industrial districts your airport your college your hospital and your Public District so these are for very specific and special purposes hence special purpose districts um part of that we had

39:53 – 41:52Speaker 1

to move the transportation policies and practices out of AR article 9 into article 3 which is again our administrative section um all of those articles so I think airport was like article 11 Public District was kind of everywhere college and Hospital were also stuck other places so now they're all going to be in one place uh we created minimum lot sizes for the College District and Hospital District when they did not have any previously we also reduced the front sight and rear setbacks and the College District this is mostly to accommodate a lot of the existing development and the patterns of development that we've been seeing see there where the previous setbacks were more for R1 Zone it seemed to mimic those and that's not the type of development that's in the College District um we also added uh setbacks for alleys we did not have any previously we also added a footnote for the fa height requirements in the airport District this is in including signage but also just general building so that's important for all the FAA requirements there we also added a footnote that non-residential structures next to residential zoning District or use would require a 20ft setback again to make sure that you're not having too many non-compatible uses or maybe non-compatible uses that close to each other because again these airport College Hospital and even public uses do tend to have a mix of uses between residential and non-residential uh we also noted that the density bonus is only permitted in College Hospital and public and that is again because you cannot have any residential within the airport District so then it would not be a clickable there Joe um just for the record I don't think you actually introduced yourself iiz partway through sorry no problem my name is Joe Dodson senior planner here at the city of calwell thank you um as far as the land uses we did make restaurants permitted in the college and Hospital District this is kind of as Robin had said with the comp plan and everything else to ensure we have some

41:49 – 43:49Speaker 1

neighborhood commercial uses nearby a little closer walking distance for people also made retail permitt in airport because that happens in airport districts in a myriad of ways I think there's already some out there but technically not permitted so just kind of makes it cleaner made primary and secondary schools prohibited in the airport District because they probably shouldn't be there uh made many storage facilities prohibited in the airport District as well and we also made truck stops and Su in the airport district and all if not most of the land uses and the changes to the land use schedule for the airport we did work with the airport manager to discuss those and I know myself have met with him I know Robin's met with him we've gone through this more than once with him to make sure that there is an understanding and a the changes were made that he wanted to see for what the vision of the airport is ultimately we also prohibited dormitories in the airport district U made duplexes permitted in the hospital there's already a lot in there for if you actually go and drive around you can so it's just making things more compliant with existing devel patterns we made triplexes and fourplexes and Su in the hospital District this kind of goes back to some of what Robin had said regarding some of those um homes used for survivors of different things those typically aren't just one unit right it's not a single family home that does it so this allows another Avenue to get those other larger homes you know three four plexes permitted within those zones and similar to other zones we made multi family that's seven or more and sup at Council level within the public also within the public though those are only going to be permitted if they're done in conjunction with the city so it's not like a private developer cannot come in zone public and then do a project it has to be a partnership with the city on those and you would see that in the table as a

43:47 – 45:45Speaker 1

footnote also made Single family and town homes prohibited in airport District because why uh made Single family and Townes permitted and Hospital uh made several industrial uses permitted or permitted within SGP within the airport um a lot of those are already existing so again compatibility we made hotels permitted in the airport because airport districts and airports often have some hotels nearby or right next to it and we made RV parks transient permitted in the airport article 11 is the overlay zoning districts also start this and then probably hand it over to Robin because she knows much more about some of the design stuff and what we went in there um this was again where we had I believe the airport District was originally moved that obviously and then reformatted all the other existing overlays from VAR sections they at to go and put them into here um we did create main categories for the overlay districts and overlay zones so there's like a we I think we can see it here so entertainment overlay historic overlay Scenic corridor overlay Etc so that was the main purpose there within the airport overlay the apo1 the we added hotels and motels to a land use with avigation agreement so let me back up this was what Robin had mentioned before some of these overlays you have your standard zoning code you may even have specific use provisions another layer of use provisions or or use tables uses that may or may not be permitted are the overlay District so you look at your regular land use schedule and see like okay it says it's permitted in the M1 let me go over to the airport overlay is it actually permitted in the M1 by the airport it may not be and so that's where the overlay zoning districts allow the city another opportunity to better regulate things in very specific areas of the

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city so that's why again added hotels and motels to be a permitted land use within the AV with an navigation agreement added RV parks with a navigation easement as well as church and personal Support Services we removed the allowance for noise sensitive additions and accessory uses to be permitted and then we did not make any changes the apo2 apo1 is the closer to the airport zoning a apo2 is that Next Step Beyond as noted we created an entertainment overlay this is specifically for the event center overlay and the Event Center District that we've established recently past few months created the historic overlay District so we already have the studenberg historic overlay but now we Consolidated everything for studenberg as well as our downtown local and the north calwell historic district into this section provided specific Provisions in there these are again examples of where design riew would likely be required for these that would be in places not in the quote unquote downtown core U we created Scenic overlay districts specifically for the Indian Creek Corridor uh the key gateways and and Corridor overlay Zone the comp plan calls these out in some places or makes recommendations as to what there will be more code amendments and future Amendment packages that go even more detail about what these corridors are like what roadways specifically we want to call these key corridors so that we can I guess better regulate what goes along there so it could be enhanced buffering requiring a maximum setback for commercial uses not having residential directly on the arterial whatever it may be I'm just throwing out thoughts that are coming to my head with that but that would be the purpose and then also the Boise River Corridor overlay that is a somewhat new but at the same time not that was called out in the old comp plan too but not really nothing was really done with it the new

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comp plan does call that out even more and there's an overall desire to have better connectivity from Indian and Creek and our other pathway segments that we have to get to the Boise Corridor and create our own version of a green belt once we get development out there along the Boise Corridor so that overlay was created for that it also includes envir Mally sensitive type of lands you know being in flood plane likely and repairing areas that's part of that too specific to the Boise River General flood plane overlay zone is also there and this is in Myriad of places throughout the city obviously for all of our flood plane regulations that we have to abide by we also created special development and Urban Design overlay districts so this is taking that Designer view another step and creating those specific overlay zones where they would be applicable so you have the downtown as we noted is now City Center and Central business district uh the ud2 is the River District which is between the river and Centennial and the river in Simplot and then you have ud3 which is the neighborhood character Urban Design overlay which is essentially the traditional neighborhood so that so you have like your City Center downtown and then one ring out further would be the ud3 neighborhood character any questions on the overlays okay I just want to add one thing Joe because we mentioned it the last time I just want to clarify since the commissioner Haron wasn't here last time so again in these overlays you're going to see a land use table that will show prohibited uses um so even if you go to and the reason for this is for instance in our downtown area we've expanded the downtown area across the railroad tracks there's a lot of properties that are already zoned like industrial but we don't want to see Industrial in our

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downtown but there was no way to say that in our M1 L use schedule because M1 is all over the city so you create this overlay so you say okay here's your land use table for an M1 but oh I'm in this overlay oh well even though it says I can the overlay says if I'm in this this particular area I can't so the overlay is more restrictive so you'll see some tables in there where it will have specific uses um that are going to be not allowed in these overlays we did make some concessions in there for some existing industrial um uses because we don't want to see them you know not be able to continue and be successful or whatever so we've added some language in there that there may be some requirements for them to put up some fencing and Landscaping and screening to beautify their properties but any vacant um industrial land would not be able to develop Industrial in the downtown thank you director Collins so article 12 um is a big article now it used to be the downtown article all those got moved into the urban core as we noted as well as mix of the overlay districts now article 12 are our specific use provisions that term is somewhat new again we've had some of these throughout the code already like mobile homes manufactured homes uh within the downtown section there was even specifics on restaurants drive-throughs other retail things whatever it may be all of those now got kind of moved into this so that way there's one place to look for these specific uses and in the land use schedules there's an asct on each one

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and that notes that that's going to be or have specific use provisions so hopefully it's easier for everybody that uses it including staff to find the specific use provision and what the regulations are going to be so this is a completely new process for the city of calwell we did move again all those other existing standards from various articles into this chapter or into this article and mod made modifications as needed um some amendments to the accessory uses was done so that used to be article two I believe we moved that all into this one and this would be accessory uses and buildings so Adu regulations also got moved into this specific to that we are proposing to change the maximum size from 700 to 900 square ft and from one bedroom to two-bedroom or no more than 75% of the residential the the principal residents point of that is a lot of the Aging in place providing more housing diversity frankly it can be used as a way for people who are on a fixed income they have some way to already convert and detach garage but they already have enough parking into an Adu and they now they don't have to move this is a story that we have heard quite a bit at the counter honestly where we have our aging population who can't they're now on a fixed income they can't afford everything for the property so they want to put an Adu in the back so that they can have some of their mortgage covered frankly that's the way this goes and it's something we're seeing more and more you can ask any of the planning staff this is something that has become extremely important and um we we take calls and in input from the public at the counter almost every single day regarding this so this was a change that we found was hopefully very helpful and something that we really thought was important to add now we also added that adus in the historic district or one permitted they were not previously

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but say that they have to apply for the um certificate of appropriateness just like you would in for any other type of thing there's also other requirements in there that it has to match the design um they would have to be detached only structure so you can't do an addition to the historic home which is similar to all the other historic district regulations we also did check with the state historic district and asked them if they're okay with these types of things and they said it was a great idea they said that this is something that they are trying to push other jurisdictions to do in their historic districts so that those districts and those areas that are typically more locked in on the size of a home and the number of dwelling units that those areas can also change and be malleable to meet the needs of the residents too so we're we're very proud of that some new specific use provisions that we added um we added them for adult businesses Arts entertainment and Recreation facilities some Automotive uses assembly of P persons churches Etc um drone delivery which is very new that has some specifics in there too um elevated pedestrian walkways Flex space all of these things mixed use developments if you have any specific questions on those I can definitely speak to what those may be um also as noted mobile food unit Parks um as an example requiring that if you have a certain number of mobile food units that are going to be permanent you if they have some seating area you have to have a shade structure you have to have bathrooms within a certain distance those types of things just to make it a little bit more permanent I don't know if you guys are well traveled I'm assuming you are but um my wife and I visited Austin I guess that's the food capital or the food truck capital of the United States didn't know that that's what they claim you know everybody claims these things but you could walk down any block nearly in Austin and they have these permanent food truck parks where it's like six of these just around an asphalt pad and you have six different types of food to get but it's permanent and these businesses

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are booming I mean and it's a great incub for these small businesses that can't afford the brick and mortar restaurant but they still make a bang and burger so those types of things that we're just trying to to have regulations for because we're getting asked so that's what a lot of these specific use provisions are for we also added Modular Buildings these are somewhat related to like tiny homes those types of things but it could be a myriad of uses um schools shooting ranges we were actually pretty silent on on what those requirements would or would not be and that seems inappropriate so we added some Provisions for that as well as tobacco and vape shops uh for that that's similar to other quote unquote noxious uses that you don't want in specific areas so like not within 300 feet of a church or daycare things like that and that's not just called well that's specific almost every jurisdiction has that type of Regulation as far as article 12 any specific questions on that from the commission I do real quick yes sir um oh sorry go yes um just to go back on the Adu and the historic district and you said it I think but I just wanted to clarify the Adu would have to mimic the look of that historic existing building correct correct okay yep thank you absolutely and we would check that through that certificate of appropriateness just like if they were going to do a replace the sighting or whatever it was on the building so okay Article 13 I don't I don't honestly know what it is currently I think it I don't remember what it is but now it's going to be puds puds currently are in article three I don't know what's in Article 13 now it might actually be a blank article um but we're moving the Pud stuff into this pey just for the record planned unit development we moved all of the provisions into this article um we also deleted the ability to have prohibited

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uses as part of a PUD that was previously in there that said no more than 30% of the site could or the Pud can include prohibited or specially permitted we took out the ability to have prohibited uses um we added in a minimum requirement uh if you're going to have residential uses they have to have minimum of three instead of just two and that would be like duplexes versus single family versus single family attached versus multif family right yeah you got to be able to have multiple uses that's a purpose typically of a PUD a master planned development um we also deleted language regarding the ability to reduce the number of required amenities so this is kind of where people were using the Pud to get out of PUD requirements type of stuff we button up that language to make it much more clear that you're not going to be permitted to do those types of things we also added language that if they are requesting deviations from the code that they have to provide additional amenities above and beyond what is already noted we had a language that requests for deviations cannot include an increase into the max density it so current PUD standards and the old comp plan that's how you got your density increase so like R1 low density Max F3 but then with a PUD you go to six units per acre just automatically once you do a PUD now that's not how it's going to be now any density bonus beyond what is noted in the comp plan has to go through the density bonus program which I will get into those frankly I think objectively are more strict requirements than simply submitting a Pew so and was the purpose it's feedback from the public feedback from Council and just our professional opinions so hopefully that's a good change we also revised uh essentially the definition of infill not just in puds but in general from 20 acres to 5 Acres so this is more um Robin really touched well on this during the workshop but synopsis is 20 acres you should still be able to do

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everything that Cod says that's typically a large enough site where you're not going to have encumbrances through it unless you have a giant canal or something that cuts through the site at a diagonal maybe something could go wrong but 5 acres is much more appropriate five acres and Below that's typical infill site where you're going to run into issues if you want and then to do the project that you may do and this is specific to a lot of these just random pockets of areas where you have these small 5 acre 3 Acre Parcels left everything's developed around them this is a 3 and 1 half acre site they just can't meet those requirements infill now allows them to have a little bit leniency on what those may be and then therefore we can get that redeveloped we can get the sidewalk Gap filled now because now they're going actually redeveloped so there's a purpose for that any questions comments on the P stuff okay so before I get into the detailed detailed changes for a few articles um after the workshop there were changes made um as Robin mentioned made modifications to the definitions we also made some other textual changes for clarification as we were talking about like within the enforcement and Authority sections of different articles just to button those up make it more clear uh we also as we were doing that caught some other grammatical or unintended errors throughout like for example allowing duplexes in R3 but not triplexes that doesn't make sense why would you let allow a less intense residential use in a zone that anticipates a higher intensity so we just corrected those things um within the rs1 rs2 this was something that commissioner Bros called out specifically regarding some of the conservation area development and some of the language this is the proposed

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changes that we made so that way it just makes it simpler and easier for applicants to utilize this and long story short with the conservation area development this this is only permitted as the quote unquote density bonus from 2 units per acre to 3 units per acre in the rs1 rs2 zones in the green the dark green area on the future land use map in the comp plan so again I just said like seven layers I'm sorry but that is just for that so it's saying you can put 40% you have to put 40% minimum of your property of the land of your project into a Conservation Area can't develop period now the rest of it you get to use that 3 units per AC or for that so you end up going from two units breaker on a 40 Acre Site For example would be 80 units the math then works out to be if you go to three units breaker now you get 120 versus the 80 and then that would be on the remaining acreage of the property so this language was in there we've had multiple people come in um developers even land owners say like the way you had it written I probably won't be able to meet it and so now you've just kind of made my property non-buildable or very very difficult to build so feedback from that feedback from commission we are proposing these changes guess I have any questions on this because this was very specific language so I just wanted to make sure okay so the in detail stuff one second the parking regulations one you'll notice on the slides I input the article because I remember last time you guys were immediately like wait where did we go and I understand uh parking

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regulations currently and remaining in 10205 the main changes the big ones we updated the minimum driveway space and subsequent garage setback uh from 20t to 25t so it's 10 by 25 for each space current is essentially eight feet wide by 20 feet long so this is an increase um this matches the garage setback as noted and this is to address the consistent issue of vehicles overhanging sidewalks so one the changing where the setback is measured from will affect this in a positive way as well as increasing that garage setback and by that the property line is typically the RightWay line which is usually depending on where you're at could be 1 to 3 feet behind the sidewalk we were allowing the setback to be measured at the back of sidewalk well now you've already technically you're eating into that 3 ft of RightWay it just changed so now with the new setback and the new measurement we should have a lot less complaints and issues with cars vehicles trucks overhanging the sidewalks um with the EV parking uh we modified that to say you have to do 5% once you're over 25 spaces and the 5% is in addition to whatever that number number is so if you hit 25 spaces you need to do 5% above that so whatever 5% of 25 which is like one I'm assuming give or take 100 works better 105 would be the total number um current code is you don't even have to do EV parking until you hit 100 spaces um and it was only for non-residential we change it to non-residential and multif family because if you're going to park your car just be at the commercial place it's probably going also be by your house or your residence so that's why we included that and then part of this at fires request we require that the EV spaces

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should be at least 50 ft away from any combustible structure and that would include even a carport so but the main would be the the actual building and that's because fire as we've seen throughout the country when a lithium battery goes up there's a lot different kind of fire response needed than just a car so that's why we included that we also cleaned up the table that lists the required number of off Street spaces this kind of goes back to the changes we made to the land you schedule that have these separate categories like commercial automotive commercial retail industrial manufacturing industrial storage like all of those and then your alphabetical in each of them well the parking was the same way and it was very difficult to find which category things were in and then the general category would have a minimum parking sometimes but then and you'd never be able to find your specific use in there and so you're like I don't really know what my parking requirement is and this was even issues that staff has I can't tell you how many times with Sarah with Jen with jelly with all the planners we're trying to figure out what the parking requirement is for something and it should just be a lot simpler so we made changes in order to just as much as we can keep it General all non-residential is one for 500 sare ft all industrial is one for 2,000 both of those are consistent with industry standards throughout the valley and allows the applicants the developers the users to do more if they need to and that's totally fine um the specifics for the residential did change though so single family is still two per unit as we've noted but then multif family was updated to be based off of bedroom so I believe current code was something like one and a half or two per unit just straight across the board now it's going to be per bedroom so studio is one space per Studio one and

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two bedroom is one and a half spaces for one and two bedrooms and it's two spaces per unit for every three bedroom and up and in addition to all of that you have to have 10% is guest parking so one for every 10 spaces has to have a guest space so even if you only have 10 units you need to have one guest parking so that's where that comes in and when you do the math every Project's a little different because every project tends to have a different mix of bedrooms right but when I did the math it was approximately 17 to 25% additional parking for multif family projects than what current code is so overall as the direction that we've gotten from you know residents and especially Council and commission that you guys wanted to see a little bit more parking for these they should help accommodate that and alleviate some of those parking issues and spillage out onto Street ways any questions on the parking regulation changes commissioner butas commissioner butus um are you going to discuss the credit for parking spaces in developments later credit uh when you talk about the allowance of parking spaces counting them in the garage we had that discussion we did have that discussion um we can have that discussion again but it nothing in the code is changing regarding that other than just you just have to have is this the place to discuss that or or you have a different section no this would be the place so if you guys want as or if you want to make a motion at the end that changes like recommend I'll I'll save it to the end okay next one is Landscaping and buffering I don't know why I missed an

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entire screen there it's 10209 so again it was Article 7 and then the tree was Article uh eight those both got moved into this article article two because it's applicable to all zoning districts we um added Provisions within the applicability section to be triggered when an addition exceeds 25% of the existing structure or is a th000 square feet so as I noted before this would be for some of the other areas or projects that we weren't able to get like a street buffer on a house that just keeps getting changes or even a business frankly that kept having changes but wasn't a change of use and we couldn't have a trigger point to say Hey you really need to put in your buffer now like so that's what this is the purpose of that was for uh also permitting smaller projects so those projects that are less than two acres to have landscape plans drawn up by someone other than a licensed landscape architect this is more of a monetary impact to the people who have smaller projects it's just not necessary an architect through whomever they have to have draw the plans for the building permit are going to be plenty sufficient for us to be shown and review the appropriate Landscaping on that property because it's a smaller project um a big change is a modification to the minimum planting requirements so first one is 75% of the trees and shrubs have to be low or moderate water usage this will be checked through the Treasure Valley tree selection guide that we can anybody can find it online we have it saved for us I think I think we even have hard copies um have beautiful images of trees and you each one has uh what zone like that's not applicable I guess they have you know like the harshness zones throughout the country whatever so it's like what zones they're applicable to their water usage how big they get height and width Etc so it's a really good document so we would use that to check that these trees are lower moderate water usage also change the ground cover requirement Uh current

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ground cover requirement says a minimum of 70% grass you're changing that to be minimum 20% but a maximum of 50 and this is again to help get ahead of any potential water issues in a sense you know we'd like to be a little proactive on that if we don't need it and you can have a buffer that looks as beautiful with some extra shrubs that take less watering than just watering grass as we know grass is the most intensive use of water when you're watering and then you tend to overwater the area and have a bunch of overspray that you're just watering the sidewalk and that's the type of thing we want to avoid we also changed the size of the shrubs at planting and how we measure that so currently it's says minimum two gallon when we go out and do landscape inspections it's already planted I have no idea what size of that plant was and what pot it was and so we I talked to a couple different Landscape Architects and they said well you could use the spread better and I was like the spread what are you talking about and they're like well how big is the actual plant when it's planted what's the spread of the shrub and I was like oh that's interesting because obviously you could they were saying there's regular nurseries throughout the country that say like oh yeah it's a 5 gallon pot but the shrub is this big and it's like well you just put a little infant shrub in a big pot and now you can sell it for more or whatever it may be or to meet the code requirement of that jurisdiction nearby the spread changes that to where now we can say hey you can't have these little dinky plants the point is to have a more robust and beautiful buffer at the time of planting not just hey yeah it'll grow into itself in two years so this allows us to check that better and get better buffers hopefully on the front end versus two three years down the line I also created variation of shrub density depending on the type of landscaping so like one per seven linear feet one per I think it even goes 765 and like a land use buffer requires

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one per every four linear feet the point of that is to have more shrubs in those buffers that we want more coverage and more uh buffering frankly we also updated the minimum qualified open space for subdivisions and by reducing the number of categories so we simplified the table I've proposed that to you guys multiple times now um and then requiring a new thing is requiring one tree per 5,000 ft of General open space so if you have a subdivision you have a 20,000 foot open space lot they need to have four trees there currently isn't a requirement for that so it's just kind of creating a minimum requirement a lot of developers and and home builders do that anyway it's not an issue necessarily it's just something to say for the unfortunate ones that don't want to we're saying hey at least do these uh we also requiring that the main open space to be constructed within the first two phases this is something that has come up in multiple different projects where you have eight phases in a project and the main open space is left until the end or near the end and then maybe they expire or they don't finish and there's just a lot of issues so we're trying to get ahead of that and say Hey you have to do with your phasing plan however you want to design this you got to figure it out but you got to have it within the first two phases and that would be the main open space area and amenity so if you have a large open space area with a clubhouse and a pool you got to get all of that done in those first two phases now we also increased the minimum qualified open space area for puds from 10% to 15% this is the only part of the Landscaping code that specifically calls out the Pud code versus that requirement being in the Pud code I don't just is the way it is because again puds can be in any zone so that's why it's in this article but current code is only 10% which is the same as having a subdivision that has an average lot size of less than 6,000 square feet while PUD again you're asking for deviations from things you're asking to get things from the city we want something in return we up that minimum to 15% so that way at

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least on the open space side we're getting a higher threshold and value out of the the Pud we also updated what areas are qualifying So currently no irrigation facility not even the canals and no Street buffers can count at all towards the minimum open space that has been impactful to a lot of developers um which frankly when you don't allow some of those areas to count and then we've had lower open space requirements now we are increasing the open space generally the minimum but or allowing some more areas to count so 50% of the street buffers along collectors and arterials can count so if they have a 25 foot buffer by whatever linear feet half of that can count towards the qualified because people are going to walk right it's still open space they're still required to put it in trying to give them a little credit for that and then as well as allowing Subterranean storm water facilities so those are those seepage beds that are just grass Nobody Knows the difference residents usually don't even know that they're there those used to not be able to count well that's still a grassy area that can be used it should count so we're proposing that to count that um should be very impactful to a lot of developments and allow more areas to be better utilized frankly we also simplified the street buffer table so it used to separate like minor and major collectors minor and major arterials we just said collector arterials done with it and making them a specific width um gener collectors are 20 ft arterials are 25 and then the highways 35 so those kind of other than arterials those all went up about 5T so we are requiring more now than what we were to so again as we were going through this we wanted to require more open space more Landscaping we were trying to also give credit for that to

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the developers and home builders that have to then do that and frankly the homeowners that are going to have to pay the HOA fees later on to maintain all of that we also added a requirement for additional landscape amenities within the corridor so that's some of the corridors that were noted in the compain that we already talked about but those would be areas where you don't just want grass shrubs trees where you want some dry Creeks you want Boulders you want maybe some ulating berms you want different kinds of shrubs uh you want benches kind of tucked in there or other things like that just to give some of these key corridors more visual interest as you're driving and walking um we overhauled the land use buffer section so the current list if you guys have ever read that section is one it's literally hard to read because it's just a list of uses and there's categories in there but it gets lost in the list and then again it's not an exhaustive list so it's hard to understand which use is where and what category or class and so we just tried to simplify that and into this way so for all commercial uses adjacent to residential you have to have a 20ft buffer period and a story for industrial uses adjacent to residential you have a 30 foot if it's industrial adjacent to commercial which is still typically less intense you have a 20 foot buffer for the special special purpose zones that again allow a myriad of different uses you're going to have 10 foot minimum if it's any adjacent to any residential and then Urban core will have to be based off of the use so because those are completely mixed use districts if you have a retail store next to a duplex then the retail store is supposed to put in that 20ft buffer because they're a commercial use uh but if you have like Dairy gold if they do another expansion or something like that nearby one of the restaurants they're supposed to put in their 20ft buffer or if it was a residence then it's a 30-ft buffer because that's an industrial use so in the urban core it's going to have to be Case by case um I tried many ways

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to write where I could put a number in but it just was too difficult um and then for residential uses there are no buffers except for the multi family which has its own section um and I'll get into that shortly we also renamed Pathways so current is micro major and public Pathways we change that from two neighborhood community and Regional respectively part of that is where they're located within a subdivision but then also the width of the pathway micro pathways are typically 5 feet the community Pathways could be 8 to 10 and then the regional should always be 10 ft and that is again also where they're at M M Pathways would be interconnectivity between like uh open space areas within the subdivision the community pathway would be going from those internal areas in a subdivision to the exterior arterial or collector Pathways or a regional pathway along a canal and then those Regional Pathways would obviously take you throughout the region and connect and the purpose of the regional would be multi-use that's why they're 10 ft so you could have bikes and pedestrians on the same pathway you also clarify tree requirements along path ways it mentions a requirement of trees but it didn't tell you how many so we just clarified that we also created perimeter parking lot and building facade Landscaping that was not in the code previously you could have your parking asphalt go right up to the property line and again when you have zones that are mixed and or a industrial Zone that happens to be next to a residential Zone you start running into issues and then there's also water storm water runoff and things like that that're now going to be on somebody else's property if they don't do it right so we just required a minimum 5T parking lot landscape buffer just around the perimeter just to give it a little more visual interest little buffering Etc and then also along the building have a minimum 3 foot wide little buffer or I should say Planters around the building again that's visual interest

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some pedestrian elements things like that also created a new water-wise Landscaping section current code has one little paragraph about dry landscaping and it's only permitted in M1 and M2 I believe or maybe IP as well this new water wise Landscaping section has a little bit more robust language to it and allows it in more areas in specific instances so again that would be instead of grass you could replace that with two different types of rock and boulders um but you're going to have to still keep your trees but then maybe add in a dry creek something a little more robust in the sense of visual because you're not putting the grass in and this would be for some of the areas that can't get irrigation don't have it or are in an area where it's tucked away in an industrial park what's the necessary purpose for this buffer if it's already adjacent to other industrial what's the purpose of grass it's just kind of a waste and a pull on the overall water system anyways let's just do gravel so trying to offer additional solutions for landscaping any questions on this section okay next one be multif family Development I've discussed this with you guys multiple times um this is the current article is article 14 or yeah 1014 right now it's only internal circulation now this proposes also site development standards minimum open space um also building design standards uh we are including a minimum buffer and setback in here at the direct ction of council uh so multif family residential buildings shall provide a minimum setback along the perimeter of at least 15 ft period unless a greater setback is required somewhere else in the code um if they well within the development they

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have to be separated at least 10 feet that's more of a fire code thing and it helps break up some of the massing of the bigger buildings anyways if you at least have a 10 foot Gap when a new multif family building is proposed adjacent to existing single family though there is a larger setback and that would be a 25t setback that is again to pull that away a little bit further from existing residential whether it's two story three story five story whatever it may be back it up a little bit provide a land use buffer that's the section of landscaping that they have to do which is the most dense landscaping and just give a little bit buffer there the exception to that would be if you do have multif family that is single story well single story to single family is typically seen as okay so you don't have to do the 25 foot you have to do the 15 foot or if it is within the city center and Central business district this is a whole different ball game here so in some sites many sites if you have to do a 25 foot buffer you can't build on the project because that might be half the property honestly so that's why central business district and City Center is going to have to have its own regulations which it does within the urban core District article um in addition when a new multif family building is across from a public roadway the minimum 15t buffer shall be maintained so as an example if it is along a local Street the street buffer for a local street it's only 10 foot this is saying you're going to have to do the 15 not the 10 so the more restrictive buffer but then if it's along a collector an Arial it's going to be more than 15 anyways so then obviously you'll do the bigger buffer and that's just all that is saying and then again the setbacks have to be landscaped per the buffer section of code it's not different it's just those land buffer section which again is the more robust buffering section as an example of the old code or current code or lack thereof and then the new code this is an example this is a local

1:24:37 – 1:26:37Speaker 1

street that you have Apartments budding up against technically meet our setback and Landscape buffer requirements now generally speaking this is what it could look like we have more tree requirement than what current code is as well as a lot more shrub d it requirement and this is it doesn't look like it as much here but it would be pushed back an additional 5T from what it is now and of course when you put it in the artwork you make the trees a little older too but so again side by side very different it's about twice the number of trees and vastly more shrubs um runting the open space for multif family requiring minimum 10% overall period no matter what that's what you're going to do yeah so um once you get over five acres you have or 50 units I believe um you have to do 10% plus of per unit and that again just helps you scale the minimum open space as the projects get larger because if you did 10% across the board you can get 400 units and 200 units on the same site depending how you do it and then if you only do 10% open space that's not scalable that's not fair to those residents because now you have twice the number of residents give or take obviously using the same amount open space no no no you have more units you're going to do more open space so that's what that purpose is for uh and then for for private open space we required a minimum 60 square foot so that's just requiring the patios requiring the balconies those types of things where if you don't have or want to use the common open space you at least have your little patio um again requiring projects that are 5 Acres or 50 units or more do require a minimum 10,000 s foot area of open space this was discussed at the workshop this is same say of your overall required open space whether it's the 10% of the per unit one of those areas has to be 10,000 square foot in size once you get to this size of a

1:26:34 – 1:28:33Speaker 1

project and the purpose of that is even if you only have 50 units whatever it may be you got to find a way to give both the adults and the kids frankly some larger open area to play not just count your Remnant pieces or even your buffering you can't use that as much to kick a ball throw a baseball or whatever because it's going to have shrubs it's going to have trees those types of things so this is just a requirement to say hey you need to have a play area an open play area we also provided a better and broader list of example amenities there was a very short list before so this is just an ability for applicants as well as residents to understand what the expectation is on the type of amenities that we want to see and then requiring minimum architectural design standards so that would be specific to this it's hard to see some of the numbers as you can tell but each of them correlate select different materials an accent versus um a primary material as well as colors having varying roof profiles also wall modulation in this example um the same as the not so good-look example would say that if you have those vertical style units where you can clearly see like that's Unit A that's Unit B that's Unit C that those are not allowed to be on the same wall plane you got to pop them out you got to have some wall modulation I mean I I think everybody can agree when you're walking down something like that and you see just this whole wall even if you have Windows it still looks very boring very plain this would allow you and require them to have some modulation there just break up the visual massing okay one more after this I promise any questions on the multif family okay so completely new courtesy of recommendations from the comp plan and replacing the existing PUD density bonus

1:28:31 – 1:30:31Speaker 1

quote unquote is the new density bonus program in 103 so article 3-8 it's as Robin said very important note it is not permitted in the R1 Zone generally the purpose of this is to implement the recommendations and goals of the comp plan um and it creates an optional not required an optional incentive program with consistent criteria and standards to get some additional housing density to support housing diversity affordability and other desirable services and or amenities within our community some of the minimum criteria or I should say the things that would get you your points are noted here so deed restricted units Ag and place units requiring housing diversity or dedication of land I'll give you some specifics would be well first the point system that we created I I'll go forward and then backwards so we created a point system into five categories a half point one two three and four point those are correlated to percentages four point being 100% of the density bonus that's noted in the comp plan as well as in this article three points would be 75% Etc right except for the half a point some of them are only the density bonus is only four units per acre additional while half a point typically won't utilize a half a dwelling unit per acre you could technically but in those cases where I think it's in like two categories you just we're saying that the Half Point gets you the the one point the whatever it may be so that should be much easier to calculate as well as Implement as we go through the process but specific to the point system the there are not many proposed criteria that get you that full

1:30:28 – 1:32:27Speaker 1

100% so there's very few One Singular thing that you can do to get the full density bonus I know that that was something staff knows that that was something that was a concern of council and the public about hey are kind of like the old the current PUD where you just you submit this one thing and now you get the full thing like well we wanted to avoid that so as an example of those types of things which to commissioner Zamora's point last time I believe is correct to high bar would be all rental units deed restricted for making 50% of Ami or less or if they're for sale units all of the units or Lots deed restricted for everybody making 120% of the Ami or less um if you guys aren't familiar typically with rentals versus for sale there is a big difference in what the Ami typically is for those and so that's why most Ami if you ever see deed restriction on for sale Lots it's going to be that 120% or or less type of thing it won't be at the 100 some places will obviously if you can but typically developers and home builders can't make that happen at all so that's why you have to say 120% because they can't even find the people that will be financed to get the 100% so that's where that comes in another example that would get the full bonus would be a dedication of land to the city large enough to construct a fire or police station so that's something something that in general the city has needed or wanted so if you can do that then you can get that other ones would be like uh a 3.1 would be dedication of land and construction not just dedicate but also constructing a public park that's 20 acres or more um within the mixed use Place type you could do dedication of land to construct a fire station or police station um some of the Half Point ones if they're

1:32:24 – 1:34:23Speaker 1

doing housing just a regular subdivision if you have at least two types of housing then you can get that half Point um let me see another one with housing diversity that we've proposed which we think could help in a lot of ways that we discussed with the adus is saying that if you have a certain percentage of the homes outright at the beginning constructed with an Adu already you can get a density bonus for that so we're hoping that the point system is both attainable but also not so easily attainable like it they need to have criteria that one is very clear everybody understands what they are as well as understanding that we not selling the farm just because you do one thing at least unless it's a really really really big thing in regards to the density bonus program we are absolutely open and willing to hearing your guys' feedback because it is so new um um in general that is the code updates for round two of mini so if you guys have additional comments or questions please feel free to ask thanks Jo just one question I think I understand I'm seeing it here in the footnote so um I I going to dedicate land to construct a a fire station but it's near another existing fire station the footnote must be approved by the appropriate City official so if it's not approved then they would not NE they would not qualify for those respective points correct okay correct yeah that's why we put that in there because exactly to your example that's a great example other questions right now for staff for uh and we do have um public um testimony being um someone signed up but just note for those that are observing we did have a 4-Hour Workshop where we went very in depth in this so I

1:34:21 – 1:36:21Speaker 1

although this is a lot and we still at at an hour and a half um we have as a commission spent a great deal of time looking at this um and asking lots of questions of Staff absolutely you have all right so with that move on to our public hearing um we have no one signed up in favor no one signed up in neutral I have um is it ver uh I'm trying I'll have you come on up and state your name an address into the record hello uh my name is V Brahim lari and I live uh on 1198 West Abram Drive in Boise uh so I'm here today um because the new uh zoning ordinance um does not reflect the nature um of the properties next to the freeway um when it comes to um Urban neighborhood comp plan so um I have a property on 300 Frontage Road which is part of urban neighborhood and which is includes traditional neighborhood and C1 zoning and my property sits next to the freeway to Y 84 and the proposed land use for zoning tradition neighborhood and C1 does not have a proper commercial land use for these type of properties which are more freeway commercial oriented the location of these properties puts them in a disadvantage for most land uses proposed in the TN and C1 for example my property was a daycare and it went out of business when the freeway expanded when it comes to things like that schools uh dayc carees offices it's not proper use next to the freeway with all the

1:36:18 – 1:38:16Speaker 1

noise that's in there so um so I'm here today specifically because um I have been trying and I would like to run a used car lot on my property and the proposed zoning ordinance has removed completely the automotive use and I agree for uh uses like the automotive repair or the body shops which they're they're not a good way to clean the area and we all know that the area looks pretty bad but Automotive cell is ideal for this property it it's right next to the freeway and um is very close to the two exit exit 27 and 28 and it does not neg negatively impact the neighborhood so uh my suggestion is that the zoning to include a small scale car cell for ud3 which currently is also is in the overlay is prohibited for maybe up to like 20 25 cars um for the properties that are directly exposed to the freeway because if we see there is probably maybe like close to a dozen of properties they are next to freeway they are they are not being developed and the reason behind that is because of the nature of these properties they're so close to the freeway and what I understand the zoning staff is trying to make this area mostly like a neighborhood oriented but this properties they don't fall on that category these properties should be more

1:38:12 – 1:40:10Speaker 1

towards um freeway commercial so I currently have uh automotive repair building permit in place if you I'll give you 20 more seconds to wrap up your comments thank you and but I know that's not the right thing to do because my property sits next to the park and before I start building my automotive repair please I ask you to consider my request to add like a section for small scale um Auto Sales in this zoning thank you any question can can I just add one more thing one more thing um so also it was mentioned because I wasn't prepared for that but it was mentioned that the uh setbacks are going to increase on a traditional neighborhood well this these properties are already too small increasing the setback is going to make them impossible to develop that's all my feedback any questions from Commissioners commissioner Bros have you already met with the Planning and Zoning staff on this issue yes I've been begging for four years for this issue cuz I believe in the past you've had uh probably special use permit requests come before I requested the the thing is that I was misled into the type of application I was uh suggested to do like an um Amendment um ordinance Amendment and then when the time came for that meeting um The Zone the zoning staff the previous zoning staff said that better chances are to actually rezone during the city council meeting and then when I followed up with them to reson they denied me and then later on I was asked is if I

1:40:08 – 1:42:05Speaker 1

plan on selling my property because the city is interested on it and I gave the city twice the chance to buy it I thought and compared to all the prices in the ne in the in the area I thought I was very fair with the price but the city was wasn't interested they want it just for the value of the land which I don't have only the land that I have the building too so before I start building a shop there which is I went through the neighborhood door too I talked to the neighbors and I I told them what's going on I have the permit for the shop but I would like I would rather have 15 cars 20 cars in the parking lot for sale than actually building a shop a repair uh outo repair shop there thank you and everybody agreed thank you other questions all right thank you thank you uh so that was the only individual signed up for public testimony so let's see final questions um for Commissioners or by Commissioners for staff commissioner brr I think I'd like to leave that door open uh as we caucus sure I I think it's likely that we're going to end up shunting some questions to staff okay all right so with that um it's not on here because it is a legislative matter do we close the public hearing so I would entertain a motion to move the uh to close the public hearing so moved commissioner Bros second second for commissioner Whitbeck all those in favor I I I any opposed all right so now it's time for us as a commission to deliberate and additionally uh staff is still available during this time to answer um questions so if

1:42:01 – 1:43:59Speaker 1

if nobody else Minds um as I as as I went through this package multiple times I was struck that there are two uh basic breakouts of the code one of them is code that establishes a future vision for the city of call alwell and the other is more conventional regulations that that you've gone into extensively and as I was looking at the code that establishes a vision I thought is that really within the scope of the Planning and Zoning commission for there are a couple of problems that that with me making a decision on the code that establishes the Future Vision well as everyone will readily agree it's the primary responsibility of the city council they're the ones who are accountable to the voters they're the ones who are going to be held responsible for how the that vision is implemented the other part of the code is all I think very straightforward and I have no problem recommending 90% of this code but I'm uncomfortable voting on code that I think is is not within my scope and for which I don't believe I have enough information to make an informed decision if your Commissioners may remember when we were reviewing the comprehensive plan I asked for a deep dive and these are those specific sections where I felt like I didn't understand it I needed a better understanding uh Joe uh two weeks ago when we had the workshop and you saw that I was struggling with how some of

1:43:56 – 1:45:55Speaker 1

the land use tables are constructed the lot sizes the allowances and so on and how all of these overlapping effects are going to end up looking in an approved development and because of that I felt like I really don't have enough information to vote on these on those a very limited set of paragraphs um if if if and and Sarah you don't have to I'll give these to you later so there are what um one two three four five six 7 8 nine 10 paragraphs and some of these are tables that I looked at them and I thought I really don't feel competent to vote on these I I think most of this is worthy of recommending for approval but I'm I'm struggling with these and then there were two additional sections that we had talked about at the comprehens hensive excuse me at the workshop um and the decision was made not to include those here and I'd like to at least bring those topics up so that they get highlighted for city council again this is a all of this material is stuff that if the city council enters into it knowingly is that that's it their it's their responsibility and I don't feel like I'm going to throw a barrier in front of them in essence I want to call these things to their attention they may look at it and go yeah we thought about that we're fine with that and then okay there that's that okay um let me read off just the section titles or the numbers so it's 1012 D3 101 D3 103-118 10502

1:45:50 – 1:47:49Speaker 1

10504 105 5 10605 1082 subparagraph 1 10805 and 10-23 D1 so those are those are the paragraphs that establish the Future Vision so if city council is comfortable approving those that's their business um the two additional bits were 10 01-10 definition 7 and and so so Commissioners it it's the section that deals with the administrative decision and the director has this power to make a couple of different calls on administrative decisions uh they can either uh be approved without a review or they can be referred to different different entities for review and that's a very powerful role and it's cool that the director has that but it this paragraph also allows the use of a design and I thought if if you retain accountability by constraining the scope of that role to the director only and that they cannot delegate that role then you retain that accountability path um so I that was a recommendation that I had uh and the director gave an articulate response to that two weeks ago we let me read this other bit and then and then if if you will um then the topic I brought up earlier uh an hour ago um was this garage parking space requirement the the code AS written in

1:47:46 – 1:49:46Speaker 1

10205 paragraph 2B says the uh that the the paragraph directs the parking space requirements to include parking spaces in a garage towards the minimum parking space requirements and I disagreed with that requirement we had a good discussion and the discussion at the February 26 Workshop included alley loaded homes where the only available parking is in the garage um it's like oh okay so the issue is not as clearcut sometimes you may find that you have to take credit for the space in a garage but even then uh because that space is under control of the homeowner and a lot of homeowners use that interior space for something other than putting a car even if that means they have to park the car a block away because they want to have something else going in that garage is is is that under their control is it appropriate to have that uh parking space count towards the minimum parking space requirements in that development so director oh excuse me director I in I invite you to respond um I guess I'll just start off by responding to a couple things um you absolutely have the authority and the purview to make a recommendation on the vision because the state statute actually says that the city is required to adopt a comprehensive plan and that that has the vision for the community and that the the zoning codes are created to be able to implement that Vision so you absolutely have the authority to vote on that um I will say that we did we did

1:49:43 – 1:51:42Speaker 1

offer any Commissioners that had any questions or concerns to meet with us over the last couple weeks and we didn't get anybody that had called and had any questions or concerns um on the next on the first section I'll let Joe respond to the parking one but on the definition for administrative review I know we talked about that and we also talked about if we added the language in there which we did it's in there that says that the director can make those decisions or his or her design under the guidance of the director ctor and we did add that language and that was talked about at the workshop and it and I was under the impression and I could be wrong that that was acceptable and and on that specific point if that is acceptable to city council then it's acceptable to me because they're the ones who are responsible for that and I just would add um I I I we also have I feel we also have to be disrespectful of the director as as a person and whoever is in that role Robin now whoever's in that role the director gets to go on vacation gets to take time off and so it is very reasonable and responsible for us to presume that that time is being taken off and that somebody should be able to to um under her guidance um step in and provide um those approvals additionally in regards to those administrative approvals it is it is a big U responsibility but it was it's not dissimilar U and you correct me if I'm wrong it looks like there's actually more accountability built in because some things that were previously outright permitted now have an extra layer of review from a trained individual with the appropriate experience and certifications that have been appointed by our city council because it is an appointed position so

1:51:39 – 1:53:38Speaker 1

um I I I hear you and I respect that and I just my stance is different is I think that the language that's included here does reflect um the language from the workshop and I think is sound okay so I if if I could revisit the the idea of where the vision came from um it's still not clear to me if the vision originated as an industry practice within the Planning and Zoning Community or if it came from the consultant or if it came from city council um and it's like for me that makes me uncertain on uh whether it is the real vision for the city city of Caldwell and I'm like I don't think I have a lot of information and that's what makes me uncomfortable voting on that sure sure um I'll just comment so what we've written into the code is to implement the vision of the comprehensive plan the comprehensive plan Vision was written through public Outreach so the vision was written by community members um it was through surveys it was through online interact interactive Interactive activities if I can talk um it was also through several workshops um I know that we did have um somebody come to the public hearing and said they thought our data was skewed on the number of public participants but they were basing that on the number of people that signed in at the workshops which we were very actually kind of different than most people who do a comp plan because they get more attendees at workshops we actually got more attendees that did one-on-one interviews and actually online surveys and online interactivities and comments um and so that's where most of our numbers came from um but again you can you can publish and invite the public to come

1:53:36 – 1:55:34Speaker 1

out and talk but you cannot force a horse to drink the water so and I I I'm sorry and so U when you guys had it at the train depot right I thought that was a very good turnout and I thought that was well done as far as the vision and and for allowing the public to put in their Vision right for the different um the different areas you guys had set out in there so I I mean you're right anything right you can do a lot of this but if you don't show up and actually do anything then you need to just sit down and I believe it was a sincere effort but in looking at the total numbers of people that participated relative to the size of the city it it was a very small effort and it and it was well populated by activists I got one more look at the number of people that vote in this city absolutely so go ahead and that's that's almost a mic drop right there I mean same ratio going to get it the real reality of it all to the point is those that is the information that we had right and and I don't think that this conversation right now is to relitigate the comprehensive plan um that's not on our agenda it but that said the comprehensive plan has been adopted by the city and serves as the vision um and it my take is that it's the respon it's the responsibility of staff to provide information to to us and then ultimately the council to create ordinances that allow for future development because if we don't have those ordinances in place to deal with situations that come up then we're left um we're left unbalanced in that situation certainly where this this isn't the and all all where these ordinances can be changed as things come up but this allows for a streamlining of the duly adopted adopted comprehensive

1:55:32 – 1:57:31Speaker 1

plan commissioner what be did you have something only that I've studied all the documents I don't know a lot about everything but from what I've studied I appreciate all the work and I see no issues the the other thing I and I and I respect that we had public comment I I do want to call out that that uh situation um I hear you for me with that it seems like a very lot specific situation I think the conversation that we're having is um broader because the implications of of making the change in one area is going to have Citywide um implications and I and I think that uh I appreciate that I would encourage continuing talking with staff and seeing what could come up but I think that seems very lot specific and and opening up some of the recommendations suggested would um yeah would have just bigger effects throughout the community of calwell other questions or comments from Commissioners and if I could Circle back commission excuse me if I could Circle back it is my understanding and I believe it's what Rob Robin said that the comprehensive plan is what created and set the vision and the zoning is to be in alignment with that so it's able to enfor enforce that Vision yes sir so it seems seems to me that they're much in alignment they're not separate issues just if I may commissioner uh the if you do not implement the if you do not codify some of the things that we're codifying from the vision it some jurisdictions don't as an example they have the comp plan it's beautiful they'll spend all this time and money on it but then they don't go and change the ordinances which is something that the city has unfortunately not done at times well then that vision is just Vision you can't Implement something that is not codified at the end of the day the comp plan is not codified the only way to

1:57:28 – 1:59:27Speaker 1

actually do that vision is with these ordinances and that's where we've proposed these changes and and to implement that vision and then even some of that nice fluffy language that is included in these you know Authority statements the purpose statements things like that that is purposeful as well to help Implement and guide that specific vision for that section based off of feedback based off of the plan based off of all kinds of conversations that planning staff has for the vision of these areas and and residential uses commercial uses Etc so I just wanted to point that out that to commissioner wh Beck's Point yes that is why we're doing this and sorry chair and commissioner just to add to what Joe said the the bigger thing with that too is that if you don't codify the codes to implement that Vision then when a project comes in they're not in conformance with your comprehensive plan and the statutes require that they be in conformance with your comprehensive plan so it's kind of a a catch 22 you you have to do it or development can't happen and I I see your hand I'm sorry we closed public testimony though uh already I just we we've closed the public testimony I would encourage you to speak with staff uh after after the meeting um and I would just oh oh go ahead commission sorry CH yeah just a quick question for you so I think and overall I'm with with most everyone here that I think the codee's mostly good the question that I would ask and I don't know if you've gotten anything is if developers have said that our new requirements are too strict for them um because although I want us to have really good boundaries I don't want to make it so difficult that we can't have development happen um and we talked about one of the developments where we said hey we want or least I said I won't speak for the rest of the the committee that we want to let the it just do its thing and let capitalism happen and let whoever the highest bidder win and the scenario that needs to meet the need

1:59:26 – 2:01:26Speaker 1

will meet the need because the person who's supposed to buy the land will buy it and it will help the city um do you feel that you guys have gotten feedback from developers in the valley that have said they can't develop now because of these code adjustments that will soon to go on to council and be approved or denied sure Mr chair commissioner Larsson we've actually gotten a decent amount of feedback over the past year plus and continually daily you know that they they're sending emails they're asking questions we have gotten specific feedback uh I believe even during the workshop you guys had some from uh Brighton we implemented some of those changes because we had that discussion which is why we always implore the community public as well to give us your ideas we are in a vacuum sometimes it's just the nature of the job right we're seeing it from our perspective because we're the planning professionals we want the feedback so we've taken that and generally overall no no one has said oh we can't do this this is going to kill this project or whatever nobody has told us that for any of the changes that we've made no um there's been other changes in general of like hey this would be a lot easier if you made it this way hey did you think about X hey what if you did y instead I think it meets the same intent we're like you know what you're right that's actually true we can do it this way instead and now it's a benefit to everybody versus harboring one person to benefit the other you know so we've definitely gotten feedback we actually have done a workshop with the development community that went over mostly the multif family and Landscaping which are generally really impactful to developers and there was really good feedback actually we were told one they were very very glad and impressed that we even held the workshop and two that they thought the changes would actually be a really good change for the city and bring better more successful development so that's the general feedback we've gotten okay thank you thank you chair uh other commission deliberation comments not I would entertain a motion

2:01:23 – 2:03:20Speaker 1

sorry one last thing Comm I I wanted to go over uh brose's parking thing I kind of agree with him but I don't I don't think that we can determine how to count those when I'm a developer and I'm developing and I'm building a house with two parking garages even though every person I know except for myself can't park in their garage and I can park in all three of my Bays most people can't and so I don't know if that's fair to the developer who's going to put up all this money to help develop the land to say that those housing parking garages are going to be used for something else even though I I do believe that that they will be used for storage so just an assumption yeah I mean and then additionally is what does that development actually look like is so there's extra big concrete slabs like are then we're changing the Aesthetics and we want our do we want our community to be filled our neighborhoods filled with extra big um concrete concrete slabs because they would have to accommodate if we're not counting the garage which is spent for it and yeah yeah but nonetheless uh is it motion anybody willing to make a motion right now I'll make a move to approve the recommendation for approval based upon the testimony evidence in the record for this matter and upon finding a facts and conclusion of law set forth herein dueby determined to move as follows the request for zoa 25-1 zoning ordinance text amended is recommended for approval subject to the conditions of approval as presented or amended was second that was a motion for commissioner Larson is there a second second second for commissioner Harmon um roll call please Larson yes Haron yes yes no yes with that motion carries um so we will finish there and with that I would entertain a motion to adjourn so moved commissioner wh was that a second from lson yes all right all this fav say I I all right

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