Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Here it is. Oh, hold on. Are we ready? Ready.

We'll call to order the Calaveras County Board of Supervisors regular meeting July 20, 2026. Stacey, can you please read the closed session items?

Item 1, pursuant to Government Code 54957.6, Conference of County Designated Labor Negotiators Teresa Hitchcock, Judy Hawkins, and Shea Johnson, regarding the following employee organizations, Deputy Sheriff's Association, Service Employees International Union Local 1021, Sheriff's Management Unit. Item 2, pursuant to Government Code 54956.91, Conference with Legal Counsel regarding existing litigation, Tressler v. County Workers' Compensation Appeals Board Case No. ADJ14477062. Item three, pursuant to government code 54956.91, conference with legal counsel regarding existing litigation, Fridell v. Calaveras County et al., United States District Court for the Eastern District of California, case number 226CB0577. Item 4, pursuant to Government Code 54956.91, Conference of Legal Counsel, Re-existing Litigation, California Sport Fishing Protection Alliance v. Eastern San Joaquin Groundwater Subbasin Sustainability Plan et al., San Islas County Superior Court Case No. CB2001720. Was there anything to report out? No.

Okay. So let's go into closed session.

Oh, wait. Oh, yeah.

Public comment. I apologize. I forgot about the onlines.

And we do not have any online public comment.

Well, I lucked out this time.

All right. We'll go into closed session.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We are ready chair.

Yeah. Welcome to the July 28th, 2026 regular meeting of the Calabasas County Board of Supervisors. Mark, can you lead us in the...

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

all right stacy we have one item to report out from closed session um Just the SEIU one, there was no...

I think we're just going to go back into closed session since we didn't get through the whole closed session agenda. We'll go back at the conclusion of the regular agenda and then we'll report out next meeting. Unless there's something that...

I was going to piece mill it, but I've been corrected.

So... Staff announcements. Yes. Lisa.

So today we have Dahlia. Dahlia is a spayed laboratory retriever Australian shepherd mix. She's about seven years old and weighs about 62 pounds. She's a very loving pup and she's been through some things in her life so far. She came to us with her eyes both infected and a severe flea allergy. She likes her treats as you can see. She has been receiving treatment for her eyes and the flea treatments for her skin and coat, and she is improving greatly and thriving. She has not let her previous neglect by humans, you know, affect her affection with humans. And Dahlia has eyes that are very distinct. It's called heterochromia, where she has one blue eye and one brown eye. So Dolly is excited to go out on morning walks. She's excited to meet people, sniff everything and everywhere. She does pull on the leash a little bit, and she's fairly strong, right Shauna? So some leash training would be beneficial, especially if you have children in the home. She does get along with all dogs, male and female, when introduced, and she's ready to go home today. We suspect that she will be very easy to train. And as always, if you have another pup, a meet and greet is required before you can take her home. Please contact us at 754-6509. My next announcement, I'm very proud of our CCS staff. Our partners focus the Humane Society and especially our volunteers. We received this award for the third year in a row. So 2023, 24 and 2025. So we were just awarded this for the third consecutive year in a row from the Best Friends Animal Society in 2025. The Best Friends Animal Society is leading the National Animal Welfare Organization dedicated to ending euthanasia for dogs and cats in American shelters. They partner with over 6,000 shelters, rescue groups, and spay and neuter organizations across all 50 states. They were founded in 1984 and operate the nation's largest sanctuary for homeless animals in Utah. And it's amazing that shelter that they have in Utah. This award represents dedication, caring, compassion, and commitment. And I will read the letter that they sent to us. On behalf of Best Friends Animal Society, I'm thrilled to congratulate you and staff for achieving and maintaining a 90% save rate for the 2025 calendar year, which we also did in 2023 and 2024. This is an incredible achievement that shows you and staff and volunteers are leading the way to a goal of a no-kill nation, a goal that is closer now than ever. This award represents so much more than a number. It represents a culture of caring and compassion. It represents dedicated staff, committed volunteers, and motivated supporters. It represents innovative and thoughtful programming, and it represents extraordinary leadership, both within your organization and within our broader animal welfare movement. We are proud to honor your life saving by sending you this special Celebration plaque to display to you and your staff and volunteers and community who can share in this recognition of the hard work and dedication and success in saving dogs and cats lives. Congratulations again and for the leadership, dedication, community engagement and commitment it takes for this incredible milestone. From all of us at Best Friends, thank you to you and your staff for all you do to save the pets in your care and your community. So kudos to everybody else. And with that, that is all I have. And we wanted to take a little picture with our board if we could. And we have two more plaques to display just real quick.

Oh, yes. Thank you. Thank you.

One, two, three, two, and one.

Ah, there we go, I got one.

It's not a good one.

Micah, you have something for us?

Other than a nice tie? I'm Micah Marvin, Public Works Director. Just wanted to give a quick update to the board. Calaveras County and the Calaveras County Cog has been successful in reaching a partnership with Tuolumne County Transportation Commission and Tuolumne County Public Works Department in submitting a strategic planning grant through Caltrans for Burns Ferry Bridge. So now that they've agreed to partner with us, we'll be working together through a letter of support from the board, which will be coming forth at the next meeting and applying for that grant. Hopefully we can successfully achieve that partnership and get the funding we need to finally improve that bridge. Excellent.

Thank you. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Monica. It's a big one. Any other further staff announcements? All right.

General public comment, any item of interest to the public that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board and is not posted on the consent or regular agendas may be addressed during the public comment period. California law prohibits the board from taking action on any matter which is not posted on the agenda. unless it is determined to be an emergency by the Board of Supervisors. If public comment is completed before the 30-minute allotted time period, the Board may immediately move to the next order of business. If public comment is not completed during the allotted time period, it will be continued as the last item of business in order to provide an opportunity for the remainder of comments to be heard.

Thank you. We've got quite a few people today. I'm going to, Stacy did say it, but I'm going to allow for half an hour. And if anybody gets cut out after the half an hour, you can proceed with after the regular meeting and continue your comments then so we can move forward with business. Thank you.

Can they, they're going to be leaving really quickly. If they could please make their comment really quickly. So sorry.

So we're going to just back up real quick. Thank you.

Appreciate that.

Thank you so much. Okay.

Okay.

Three minutes.

Good morning, members of the board, county partners and neighbors. My name is Robin Sutton and I'm the treasurer for the Murphy's Volunteer Library. Since 2021, our volunteer library board has envisioned a simple dream to transform our library's outdoor space into a safe area where our youngest readers can play and discover the magic of nature. Today, with the guidance and support of our county librarian and county administration, we are excited to share that we're ready to turn this dream into reality, and we're requesting your permission to begin. The project is made possible by a generous 2023 bequest from a local patron's trust, given in honor of his late wife, who was a reading teacher. The bequest came with a clear directive, create a space specifically for the use and enjoyment of young readers. After two and a half years of careful discussion and consultation, we have agreed on the perfect way to honor that wish, building a children's garden. Every Tuesday morning, our library fills with 30 to 40 children for story time. It's incredible to see so many families packed into our small building, but the fun often ends after 30 minutes. A new outdoor space will allow families, daycare groups, and preschools to extend their visits in a safe, sensory-rich environment. It will also offer visiting families with little ones another wonderful place to discover in Murphys. Within our existing garden footprint, our vision includes, but is not limited to, safety and security, the beautiful natural borders paired with secure fencing, interactive play, raised beds with sensory plants, a crawl tunnel, stepping stones, and a living teepee with reading benches. Hands-on learning, a seasonal mud kitchen, water play, nature projects, and a hidden playhouse to spark young imaginations. For our memorandum of understanding, the Friends of the Library will fully fund and maintain the space, both physically and financially. There is zero fiscal impact on the county. What we need today is your permission, guidance, and partnership. We have strong community backing, a clear vision, and a fully funded concept that honors a meaningful legacy. We're eager to move forward and want to ensure we do so with clear communication and in full alignment with your direction and facilities team. Working together, we can give local and visiting families a safe, beautiful space to enjoy for years to come. Thank you for your time, leadership, and continued support.

Hi, I'm Susan Sanchez, and I am with the Murphy's Library, and I'm current president. Thank you, members of the board and Ms. Hitchcock and fellow community members. Today, I'm going to talk about our libraries and the dedicated people who run them and the part, the living, breathing heartbeat of Califaris County. But the budget before you today threatens this to quiet it. You are caring county leaders, and you are already known the value of our libraries. I'm here today to stand up for the essential infrastructure that keeps the system moving, literally. I'm speaking about the drivers. The bookmobile and the intra-county courier drivers are the wheels of our library system. If you cut these two part-time positions, who will suffer? For starters, the seniors, who are about the most vulnerable residents in this district. For many of them, the bookmobile is a vital lifeline. I look closely at senior populations across the district. The residents are underserved are not just by income, but by reliable transportation, physical mobility, mental health, and safety concerns. Here are some statistics from 3 of our districts district one the rancho Calaveras almost 18% of the residents are seniors. I'm sorry.

You know.

Almost 18% of the residents are seniors with over 13% considered underserved currently the book mobile supports this area twice a month. District 2, 30% of the residents are seniors and 11% are underserved. Now that West Point has closed its library, patrons who have the means can travel 16 miles to McCollumy Hill to check out a book. The bookmobile serves this area once a month when it is running. District 3, the Dorrington and Camp Connell area, it is 45% of the population are seniors, the highest concentration in the county. And as independent as they are, they face significant geographic, logistical, and weather-related challenges. The bookmobile serves this area twice a month. I think you get my picture. You serve the citizens with equity, dignity, and consistency. Recent California state budget cuts have stripped $131 million in library infrastructure, dismantling the population state programs like Zip, Books, and Link Plus. Libraries are the one single best investment a society can make and its people.

When a community struggles financially, libraries are often among the most versed.

to cut, yet they are frequently the first point of contact for critical needs in a county. You cannot afford to slash the modest funding requested to keep these systems going. Thank you so much for your time.

I'm not with you guys.

Thank you very much. Jamie, can you do me a favor? The shade on the second window, can you pull it down? I'm getting right dead in the eye with the necklace this lady's wearing and the sun's right on it. It's just blinding me. Thank you.

Misunderstood what you're talking about.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Okay. I heard you. I heard you. Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. Good morning, supervisors. Super El Nino is coming. My name is Pat Gutman and I live near McCollumy Hill. I'm speaking today to encourage you to reconsider your proposed budget cuts and to fully fund the local fire districts with their past percentage of TOT revenue and other available funds. Weather experts at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association, NOAA, have put the nation on alert that the over 100 fires that burned in Oregon recently are not an isolated event. We're experiencing a super El Nino event that will make our summer temperatures even hotter and our summer wildfires even more serious. In winter, we can expect more intense rain events, flooding. I know that some of you may be skeptical about expert predictions of weather events, but I know my Bible stories. And when Noah says a flood is coming, well, then it gets my attention. The good news is regular people all over Calaveras County are doing our part to prepare for those potential disasters. We're clearing out defensible space. We are putting erosion control on slopes. We are preparing for power outages, stocking up on our pantries, packing our evacuation go bags, clearing the clogs out of culverts, and even getting recertified in CPR and first aid. But we cannot face these potential disasters alone. We need our firefighters, our paramedics, our water rescuers, and our evacuation centers to be staffed and supplied to address these emergencies as they arise. This is not the year to cut operating budgets of firefighters and paramedics. The state of California is making Proposition 4 funding available this year to prepare for extreme heat, wildfires, and flooding. There are even funds set aside for disadvantaged communities like our own. Please work with the county CEO and the local fire districts to secure these funds for Calaveras County immediately. use all the funding, including state and local TOT taxes to prepare for catastrophic floods or fire. In conclusion, a super El Nino is coming. The life saved may be your own. And to all the decision makers, board of supervisors, CEO, fire chiefs, et cetera, if a catastrophic flood comes this year, I would not like the loss of thousands or tens of thousands of lives to be on my soul. Thank you for listening.

Good morning, supervisors. Tom Infosino, Calaveras Planning Coalition. I thank Pat Gutman for her inspiring message of community action and hope. My message will not be as uplifting. First, the results of the 2015 Butte Fire. In 2015, the Butte Fire burned over 70,000 acres, destroyed over 500 homes, and took two lives. Most of that damage was in Calaveras County. In the process, we learned that our firefighters were not prepared to wirelessly communicate in the tight confines of the McCollumy River Canyon. We learned that mutual aid from other locations can be slow in coming. We learned that unmaintained fuel breaks are very hard to clear when a fire is burning down on you. We found that outdated electrical utilities, unmaintained defensible space combined with unpermitted and non-code-compliant structures increased the difficulty of fighting wildfires. We found out that despite all of those major challenges, our brave firefighters continued to risk their lives for us. Finally, we found out that when you are really feeling it, you can find the material to make a thank you firefighters sign from almost anything. Second, and I hope you're listening, the results of the 2016 supervisorial election after the Butte fire, three supervisor seats were up for election. Two incumbent supervisors saw the handwriting in the wall and didn't even bother to run. Incumbent Cliff Edson ran and lost to Gary Toffinelli. The moral to this story is that if you bungle a disaster, you don't get reelected. If this year you cut the fire district's revenues in the face of a pending disaster and the disaster harms our communities, you will be held accountable at the ballot box. If you care about your political future, I strongly encourage you to restore to the fire districts their past 25% share of transient occupancy tax revenue and to restore the remainder of their funding from other available sources. Thank you.

Good morning, supervisors. My name is Brenda McHenry. I live in Copperopolis. On a brighter note than the previous speakers today, I want to talk about the impressive electoral victories of the three supervisors who are up for reelection in 2028. In his 2024 election, Supervisor Toffanelli got 2,302 votes. In her 2020 election supervisor phone door for 2,406 votes. In her 2024 election supervisor and all got 2,525 votes. Congratulations to all of you. Now we all know that taxes are not popular in Calaveras County. Nevertheless, the Measure A sales tax increase to staff and equip fire departments was passed in 2024. Measure A got 9,587 votes, and In 2018, the TOT tax increase to improve funding for public safety got 13,203 votes. My point is that each of these tax measures to support firefighters, taxes that people generally hate as a matter of deeply held principle, got way more votes than all of those supervisors combined. When you shift those funds away from our fire funders or use them as an excuse to cut the operating funds of our fire district, You are ignoring all the voters who supported the firefighters, who protect our family members' precious lives, our irreplaceable family heirlooms, and the very homes in which we and you live. When you cut the funds to the fire districts, you dishonor the mandate of the voters. Remember this, the electoral process works two ways. It puts government leaders into office, but it also replaces them. If you want to honor your own legacies as Calaveras County leaders, please restore the funding to the fire districts. Thank you.

Good morning. I'm Marty Crane. I live in Valley Springs, Rancho Calaveras. Lots of talk about fires and floods. Fires and floods are really important. But according to the grand jury report this year, most of the calls for assistance from our fire districts, 70 to 90%, are actually requests for medical and accident assistance. That's not surprising. According to census data, the median age of our population in Calaveras County is 53 years old. And we mature people need emergency medical assist or accident assistance from time to time. The other thing that mature people do from time to time is vote in elections for their supervisor. If you want to get reelected, then you will need the votes of lots of us mature voters. And can we just please refer to us as well-seasoned? Face it, we've lived through and experienced a lot over the years, and we've been trying to share what we've learned. The other thing that mature people do is talk to each other face to face. We are not as attached to our screens as the youth. When we talk, we find out about how long it took to get a response to a medical call, how many paramedics responded, and how well they provided help. If people are seriously harmed or die because of your fire district revenue cuts, then mature, well-seasoned people will spread the word. If you want to move information far, wide, and fast in Calabasas County, you have three choices. You can send a text if you have the bars, send an email if you have working Wi-Fi, or simply tell a senior. Also, good luck trying to get reelected without the support of our well-respected firefighters. We passed Measure A specifically because our fire departments were embarrassingly and frighteningly underfunded. Please give them back their money. Thank you.

Good morning, Board. Mike Johnson, Ebbets Pass Fire District. And I was trying to cut the line a little bit, and I apologize if I offended anybody, because I'm on a call. And first time I've heard some of these things, and just heartwarming, and thank you for the support. I really wanted to get up front to let everybody know here know, and everybody in attendance, because I heard there's going to be a lot of folks talking to get out and let folks know that we did have an opportunity to meet with county leadership last week. Thank you, Teresa, and all those that were in attendance. And while I won't go through the details, I believe the collective fire districts that are impacted by the potential or the proposed cuts in the preliminary budget. We prepared a proposal and we discussed it and delivered it. And we understand that on September 8th, there'll be a decision on that. So I'm just here to share that information on everybody's behalf on the good work from last week. And we're really looking forward to September 8th and the board's decision. And that was the message this morning.

So thank you very much.

And we'll be there. God will.

My name is Christopher Budner, publisher of CalaverasWatchdog.com. In response to the proposed TOT funding cutbacks to the Calaveras County Fire Districts, I remind you that per the California Constitution, the protection of public safety is the first and primary responsibility of government. Article 1 declares that government is instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people, and the courts have long held that public safety is its foremost duty. On July 22nd, 2026, a Union Democrat letter to the editor asks, how can this Calaveras County Board of Supervisors care so little about our lives and private property? How can this board so sharply override the will of the people expressed at the ballot box to support our firefighters? On July 24th, 2026, a Calaveras citizen copied me the letter he sent to the supervisors stating, I am shocked that any board would consider such a reduction. Given the extreme fire danger we live under every single day, we live in a county where we have buried friends, evacuated our homes, and watched our forests burn. For over three years, I have investigated and published over 300 blog posts. detailing allegations of Calaveras County government's willful and intentional suppression of business development, the negligence of fire and public safety, and systemic fiscal negligence because the Calaveras enterprise won't, and not a single word has been contested by anyone in this government. You cannot have safe and prosperous communities if the county government and aligned and conflicted business bureaus allegedly, willfully, and intentionally suppress business development are negligent of fire and public safety and are fiscally irresponsible. In addition, over the past three years, all five supervisors have been at one point or remain simultaneously under investigation or under warning letter by the California Fair Political Practices Commission Enforcement Division for violations of the Political Reform Act, a milestone unheard of in its 52-year history of the FPPC, because none of you can even complete and submit your own campaign finance forms correctly and on time. In conclusion, one, this Calaveras County government is in violation of the Constitution of the state of California. Two, this administration is the primary clear and present danger to the Calaveras County citizens. It is tasked to serve and protect. Three, none of you are qualified to be in any government or business bureau leadership position managing multi-million dollar budgets. You should all be in debtors and audience. My name's Christopher Butler, publisher of calaveraswatchdog.com.

Good morning. My name is Peggy Flynn. I live in Railroad Flat. Five weeks ago, four of you cut fire district funding from $662,500 down to $132,000. $529,935 gone, 80%. Fire was the only category cut. Sheriff Flat roads up. visitors bureau untouched chamber untouched and what remains labeled fire 367 000 pays the county's own cal fire dispatch bill and who buried it on the consent agenda item 15 no staff presentation no public hearing no fire chief invited to testify no separate public comment window on the specific item you structurally silenced every resident and every fire district from speaking on the record about the largest cut to fire funding in this county's history. That was not an accident. That was a choice. The Visitors Bureau, run by Supervisor Huberti, has taken $2.76 million in taxpayer grants over six years. In return, Calaveras lost 420 tourism jobs between 2022 and 2025 and tourism tax receipts It fell from $9 million to $7.5 million. Duolami grew. Mariposa grew. Calaveras was the only motherlode county that shrank. Premium price for measurable failure. The roll call pulled from the signed resolution because you still haven't published the minutes. Eyes, Tofanelli, Andal, Huberty, and Vice Chair Folendorf. Absent chair stopper. The chair of this board was absent from the largest firefighting... funding cut in county history. And it's not just June 23rd. Half of your 2026 meeting minutes since mid-April remain unpublished. You were voting in the dark and hiding the record. And conflicts of interest on the CVB item that same day, Supervisor Huberty abstained because in January 23, the FPPC told him in writing he may not participate in any CBB matter, regardless of whether he has recused himself. 17 months later, he sat right there in this room. Supervisor Andall, your husband is a CAL FIRE captain, and you voted yes on routing $367,000 fire district dollars into CAL FIRE contracts. In December, you gave yourselves an automatic pay raise while petting fire 80%. Put it in perspective. The median Calaveras worker earns $42,000. 13% of this county lives in poverty, and your total compensation averages two and a half times your neighbor's. Supervisors, Huberty public compensation totals 182,000. Chair Stoppers, 242, nearly six times a working resident. The fire money you took equals 12 and a half full-time jobs at the county median. Chair Stopper, you finished third in the June primary. Voters have already fired you. You have an open... With FPPC non-filer case and face CCWD allegations, you falsified records absent March 10th, absent March 24th, absent June 23rd for a vote that gutted our fire districts. The chair of this board absent from the most consequential vote of the year, dereliction of duty at a six-figure salary. Reverse the June resolution and publish the minutes.

with July 9th was the hearing for this. All supervisors were present. So all five of us voted to go that route. The consent agenda on the 23rd was followed through. I'm going to bring forward a item at the next meeting. And we'll discuss the facts about everything that was said, because I hear a lot of misinterpretation of what is actually happening and doubling of numbers one way or the other that are far off. So we'll get to the facts and agenda item. And I will not speak to an individual statement right now.

Hi, good morning supervisors. My name is Martha Rubin and I am an Arnold resident. I coordinate the annual Firewise Preparedness and Educational event held each May and I am also part of the team producing the Calaveras County Firewise Festival, which will be held on October 17th at Ironstone Winery. wildfire preparedness is not just something i volunteer for it's something that i live every day and that's why i'm here today i respectfully ask that you reconsider the budget cuts to our non-fire districts and restore the funding that they need to protect our communities each district will be losing about ninety thousand dollars and they only will receive fourteen thousand dollars Our fire districts don't work in isolation. They respond together, train together, and support one another throughout Calaveras County and beyond. When one community is threatened, they all answer the call. Public safety depends on that teamwork. I understand the county is facing difficult financial decisions, and I know everybody is being asked to make sacrifices, but I do not understand how reducing funding for the very people who protect our lives, homes, businesses, and forests can be the right solution. I also question why the decisions of this magnitude were made without first collaborating with the fire districts. They are the experts. They understand what it takes to keep the firefighters trained, equipment maintained, and emergency response ready. As we work through the county's financial challenges, I encourage you to think beyond cuts alone. We should aggressively be pursuing state and federal grants and every available funding opportunity to support essential public safety services. Investing in a grant writing resources could help bring outside dollars to our county rather than asking the fire districts to do more with less. Calaveras County remains a high risk for wildfire. Insurance premiums continue to climb. We do not have a defined fire season. The smoke in our skies is a reminder that wildfire is a year-round reality. Please restore the funding to our fire districts. so that they can continue protecting every resident of Calaveras County with adequate staffing, reliable equipment, and resources to respond to the next emergency. When the next wildfire does start, none of us will be asking how much we saved in the budget. We will be asking whether our firefighters had the people, equipment, and resources they needed to protect our communities. I respectfully ask you to restore these critical funds, and I thank you for your service.

Thank you.

We're going to have one more person speak in the half an hour. No, he's speaking right now.

Can I go after you?

Because it's very important. No, he's the last one.

It's fine.

He's the last one.

I would like to say something, but it's not the time.

Well, you can go at the end of the meeting.

Sure. Whatever you'd like.

I appreciate it. And also at the end of the meeting, there'll be some board suggestions. So pay attention. And I invite everyone to come back during the next meeting to see the presentation on the budget.

Do you want to sit back down? Yes. I'm going to cede a few minutes or a couple seconds over for a comment. Okay. Absolutely.

So my name is Gina Dorst. My husband is Mark Dorst. I live at 929 O'Byrne's Ferry Road in Copperopolis, California. One of the beautiful places I've ever seen. Two years ago, the Arroyo Fire, I call it The hellfire came to my property. We own 20 acres of the hill that you see in Copperopolis. You see probably a big green barn. It's where we live across from Matt's. If you live in Copperopolis, know exactly where that is. I miss Matt's actually, the burgers. Probably the fire department does too. I have a newfound respect for what these firefighters go through. I watched them, and I'm actually on Nextdoor. If you'd like to take a look on Copperopolis Nextdoor, I have videos of what they do. They saved our property. They saved my horses, my dogs, and my cats, and myself. I was there alone by myself because my husband had to work down in the peninsula. God bless his soul. He was scared as can be because I was up there by myself, but I was not going to leave my property. It's my home. I've been there for eight years. I guess I'm considered city folk because I'm from the Bay Area. My husband has owned property across the way called Copper Canyon with his partner for 40 years. And he turned me on to this beautiful, beautiful place. I never heard of it. We fell in love here. So I'm here today as a story of the value of Of the firefighters and the first response team and the fact that you want to take monies away from them. It's my soul, to be honest. I have never seen people work so hard in my life. Our hill is like this. And they, I've just read, it's 40 to 50 pounds, sometimes 70 pounds of equipment they put on. Try doing that. And they took these huge pipes, I'm sorry, the hoses, and they were going straight up the hill like it was nothing. It was incredible to watch. And again, the video's on next door at Copperopolis. They saved me, not once. three times because it happened before, two years before, and I was alone again. Again, my husband has to work. And so we switch off. Last October, 2025, my heart stopped. My husband found me in the garage. I'd been working out. And yeah, we all know the heat here, don't we? And I'm not sure who saved my life. He might be in the room, he might not. But he found me sitting up. I remember my- Oh, you are? Okay, interesting.

Anyway- Interesting, three minutes.

Yeah, they saved my life. That's all I want to say.

Thank you for your time. So, Chair Stauffer, I know we're moving on. This has been 30 minutes. We did start at 9.17. It is now 9.48, so we have done the 30 minutes.

Right.

I do want to let the people that are online, if they have public comment, to stay towards the end of the meeting and that, like you said, it will be resuming at the end of the session.

Right.

Okay. But just online, just so you're aware, you'll have to come back or stay on.

We can afford... Yes.

We don't just have him.

There were more people and there's people online also. I know and it'll be short and you can be here.

You can be here afterwards. Yeah. Mr stopper please let people we have a consent agenda. We may have something pulled and we have 1 regular item. Please, I'm going to hold to it because I've held people to it before. I've had people complain about me holding them to it before. I'm going to stick to the same thing. So, sir, we will not be 3 hours later. It's okay so you can do better. You can do better. I will. You can do better about like accepting the way.

This is important. We've all come a long way. So all our minutes.

Okay. You know what?

Yes. He was nice enough to let her.

Okay. Consent agenda. Consent agenda items are expected to be routine and non-controversial. They will be acted upon by the board at one time without discussion. Any board member, staff member, or interested party may request a removal of an item from the consent agenda for later discussion.

The rest of you don't speak. Yeah. Yeah.

I would like to pull item number 33.

It will be a few minutes.

Sure. Not even three.

No, I mean, we're in consent agenda right now. My board clerk moved forward.

I can't speak.

You can speak in a little bit. We'll be done with the agenda item here. Sorry. I appreciate that. We won't be that long. All right, is there anybody from the public that would like to pull item? You pulled three. I pulled 33. 33, I'm sorry. And I'm sorry, Martin, was there anything else other than that? No, just 33. Thank you. Anybody else like to pull an item from consent?

Online.

Staff? Online?

If you would like to pull an item from consent online, please raise your hand.

What's the delay?

We'll give it 30. We have no online requests.

OK. I'll consider a motion on the remainder.

Move.

Move by Supervisor Sandorf. Second. Second by Supervisor Hubbardy. All those in favor? Aye. Passes on a 5-0 vote of the board. Item 33.

Can you just walk me through this? I'm not trying to stir it up. I understand we need to close this out, but I just am curious. Since we have closed it out, can you just walk me through? I apologize.

I may read it out just for the public so they know what we're talking about. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Stacey, I was trying to hurry up. I'm sorry. Item 33, action item, public works. Authorize the director of public works to execute contract change order 87 in the amount of $378,467.20 credit to the county and contract change order 88 in the amount of $1,000,000. $508,353.90 to Contract 1200-103, Wagon Trail Phase 1, Lusokit Construction LLC requires a forfeit vote.

Yes, Madam Vice Chair, Michael Martin, Public Works Director. So these are the two final contract change orders for the project. So this is part of the contract closeout process. Item number 87 is what's called a balancing change order. So that's when we zero out all the line items on the billable items for the project. And we received the credit for that, actually, because we didn't perform all the works. And then also change order 88 is the magnitude of escalation, which we knew was pending. We had to reach substantial completion of the construction work in order to know what that number is. Now that the construction has completed, we received that number, evaluated it, and found that it's valid and would like to pay that moving forward. These will be the last two pay items for the project. After this, we'll be moving forward with project closeout, acceptance of the punch list work, acceptance of the right-of-way, returning that back to Caltrans and a few other items. So this is a big step in the completion of that work.

Thank you for bringing that.

A credit back?

A credit back. That's a first.

Yeah, I know.

So, you know, I appreciate seeing that for the last time. Yeah.

I actually pulled the item as well, just for the same exact reasons. And so that is it. It's actually the secret was actually less than we anticipated then. Yes. The final closeout. So that was good as well.

Yeah.

So thank you very much. And do we know anything about phase two?

Phase two is in the works. Caltrans is working on right-of-way negotiations right now. They're moving forward with the funding that's been provided to them through the COG and looking forward to reaching the design phase of them after the right-of-way negotiation.

Thank you, Mike. Public comment. Would anybody like to comment on this item? Online?

Again, if you are online and would like to make a comment on this item, please raise your hand. We do not have any online public comment.

Thank you, Stacey. I'll entertain a motion.

Second.

Second by Fullendorf. Second by Hubbardy. All those in favor? Aye. Any against? You said it quietly, Gary. I want to make sure that you get your vote in. Was it the aye?

Aye.

Okay. Thank you, sir. 5-0 vote of the board. We'll move on to the regular agenda.

Item 34, informational item, public works. Receive a presentation on the draft safe streets and roads for all SS4A Calaveras County Comprehensive Safety Action Plan and provide directions.

Good morning, board. Michael Martin again, your public works director. I also have here with me Lori Dodge, who's one of our public works project analysts. This is a comprehensive safety action plan. We've been working on this for a number of months, and we finally reached the draft phase of the plan. But with us today are going to be our consultants from TJKM Engineering, They handled a lot of the preliminary and. Community outreach work that's gone into developing this plan. They'll be actually presenting the plan to you today. And with that, we're hoping that after this draft review, the board will approve us to move forward with a public comment period where the public will have opportunity to address any additional comments or questions regarding the plan. and then eventually return back to the board with final acceptance of the plan. Again, a reminder of this plan is focused on traffic safety throughout the county. It also gives us the tools and resources we need to better plan for projects related to those categories and also position as well for future funding opportunities as grants become available. I will now turn the time over to TJKM, our consultants, for their presentation. And while they're getting ready, I just want to acknowledge Lori and her efforts. She is really kind of taking the lead on all the public outreach and communication and coordinating the meetings with the public and the various districts. Although Public Works is presenting this item, it's a county-wide effort. So we have multiple departments within the county who have participated and contributed to this effort, who also have some responsibility in fulfilling the obligations in the plan.

And we've got some other share a little more on that. Absolutely. So we've got a lot of great support and affiliation with CHP and the sheriff's office, the health department, OES planning. Everybody's been really supportive and active, and we appreciate all of their input and support. As we move forward, we're going to be doing, there'll be outreach components to this and training and what have you that those departments will take the lead on. And once we have the CSAP through this process today, we do have it available online for the public so that they can read through it and address their comments. And hopefully then we can move forward and get this adopted so that we can go out for many more grants. We've got H-sub grants that are coming up that we would love to have this available for.

Thanks. We'll turn the time over to our engineering team.

It's on. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. thank you everyone uh good morning thank you for your time i think i've seen a couple of you attend our meetings so thank you to be a part of this project it is an important project for the county as you know i'm just going to skip the next slide of introduction But anyway, I am Ruta Chariwala. I'm with TGKM and I'm the proposed project manager on this project and was supported by Rutwaj Patel, goes by Rudy. We also had another firm, GHD, who helped us with outreach process. And that's how we were able to reach out to the community and have multiple, multiple meetings within the districts to kind of introduce the project. What is this project about and how would it help county overall? Just a quick agenda for today's presentation. We want to again go through what is a comprehensive safety action plan, what it means, what was the process that entailed into it. We do have a draft comprehensive safety action plan report for everyone to review and then open it up for discussions and questions. What is a comprehensive safety action plan? A comprehensive safety action plan really focuses on safety for all modes of transportation. It prioritizes human life over speed, convenience, or even design decisions that we make for our infrastructure. For us, safety comes first. That is what the comprehensive safety plan really entails here. It recognizes that traffic deaths and severe injuries are preventable. We do need to account for human error while we design our roadways. We want to promote slower speed, expand safe transportation options like walking, biking, motorcyclists, or e-bikes nowadays, or e-scooters. make sure that roadway safety is equitable and data-driven. And we do use two-pronged approach, which is a proactive approach as well as reactive approach. Proactive approach is more of listening to the community and embedding that into the reactive approach, which is more like looking into the data. What does the data say? Learning out of the data that we have, especially with respect to the collision analysis and the existing conditions that are out there. aligning the transportation and land use policies within this plan so making a more of a holistic report implement proven and innovative strategies what have worked for us what have worked for others bringing those innovative strategies to our county and seeing if they work for us or not and then ultimate goal is to eliminate all traffic related fatalities and serious injuries um i generally call it ksi killed and severe uh serious injuries or severe injuries. Killed is just a little harsh word. So like to say KSI or fatal. Um, so the process, uh, to develop this particular plan, uh, we started, uh, we had a kickoff meeting in April of 2025. We collected data for five years from 2020 to 2024, which was the collision data. Um, studied that data, um, dived into the trend and needs analysis, uh, identified the high risk network, which did identify 10, um, corridors that were on high injury network. based on the total number of KSI collisions that we saw. Developed a safety countermeasure toolkit that could be used not only for this plan but for the coming years. Integrated that in prioritized improvements We developed a draft plan, and once we get consensus from you, we will roll that into a final plan. But throughout the process, as you can see, we have involved the stakeholders as well as community to make sure that we do incorporate their comments as well. Again, this plan is very, very important to go after funding resources that are out there. It is kind of a prereq for a lot of these funding mechanisms. So we do need to have this plan approved by the board before we could go after those funding mechanisms. And SS4A does have certain criterias that we need to meet. And our draft plan is actually laid out following those criteria. So as you can see, chapter one is introduction, two would be leadership commitment and goal settings. I would get into details of these in my next preceding slides. Chapter three will be talking about planning structure, our strategy framework, for CSAP safety analysis for the entire county is in chapter four. It is also done district wise. So just in case, if you are interested in seeing what is happening in your own district, you could go ahead and do that too. Chapter five is all about engagement and collaboration, which is our proactive approach. We also looked into the policy and process changes that county might need. So we do have a chapter for that, We have looked at your current policies and made some recommendations on that. Chapter seven is one of the most important one, I would say, because it has the strategies and project selections, the recommendations of safety projects that we are proposing. Chapter eight is about progress and transparency. It is an important chapter because this particular plan is a living document. It is not like another planning document that would sit on your shelf and you don't do anything about it. Feds do want you to visit these plans again in three to five years, update them and see the benefits that you have gained out of the implementation that comes along with it. So that is really an important aspect. that they do want you to look at the plan and then implement and funding. Again, we have these plans, but we do not have a good funding source or implementation strategy. Then these plans sit on the shelf. You don't have an action item for it, right? So that chapter is, again, an important chapter because we have laid out exactly which are the different grant funding sources we can tap into to have these projects implemented. As I said, chapter one is an introduction chapter, just overall overview of the entire county. It also outlines the planning context as well as study methodology that has been used in this plan and relationship of CSAP with local, regional, state, and federal transportation initiatives. Leadership and commitment and goal setting is all the commitment that we have received from you, all the support that we have received from you. So it does talk about the measurable goals, identifying the leadership responsibilities and what you should do from here, like formal resolution that I think we have already presented that to you. We do want an approval on that, too. And there are some leadership letters that we have sent that we need signatures so that it does say that you are with us on this plan. And then planning structure, it outlines the roles and responsibilities of the county departments, partner agencies, advisors, and the stakeholders within this plan. Safety analysis, as I mentioned, we did look at five years of data. It was also done district level. So if just in case, if you want to see what is happening in individual districts, you can also do that. It identifies high injury network. And as you can see that every district had some different trends uh for example i'm just going to name a few like district one um the trend the top three trends were improper turning dui unsafe speed versus district four we were looking at it where improper turning unknown factors like distracted driving, things like that, or unsafe speed were the top three factors. So every district has their top three factors, sorry. But when you look at it across all the five districts, two factors that really emerged were improper turning and unsafe speed. So we have made sure that we have incorporated those in our findings and in our proposed safety projects as well.

Could I stop you for a second? Yes, sure. I just want to make sure. It would be great if there was a glossary for all the acronyms, but ROW obviously stands for right-of-way violations.

Correct. Yes, and the report does have that on the fourth or the fifth page.

Okay, thank you.

Sorry, you had a question.

Well, I was just going to say, I don't know how much of this is on Caltrans highways, but some of the unsafe turns and proper turning, we have the new stoplights that are going to be on in Valley Springs at that intersection with Marvell Shopping Center. And that's where a lot of those happen.

Right.

Just so we're on the same page around what planning is going on and what's happening there.

So our study was involving only the right-of-way within the unincorporated Calaveras County. But we did study Caltrans right-of-way separately. And we have made a list of our concerns. And we are going to share that once we get this plan approved. We are going to share that with Caltrans so that we could have some kind of joint venture to go after certain projects.

Yeah. And I just want to make it clear if I would. These numbers are unincorporated and not only unincorporated.

Well, comment on that slide. Also get to it for a second. I'm done.

Thank you. No, no.

Oh, I have to go.

Oh, OK.

I'm waiting for the slide. Oh, this one. Oh.

Before I just missed it.

So go back to the last slide, please.

Yes.

Oh, thank you.

Oh, no, my, my. How to reload, reload the whole agenda. So it's still doing it. I think it.

I might have lost it. So.

But I was looking at page 333 or 1,333, the last three digits. It was on the total chapter four, the total report on all the streets and everything. There's a lot of stuff on Garner and Olive Orchard that didn't put it up on The top of the list, a lot of those center around Highway 26. We've discussed this for years. I continue to bring it up. It should be at the top of the list because we voted multiple times to put it on top of the list, Micah. Time for me to put it on top of the list. The board majority has agreed to put it on top of the list. So I understand what their study and their dots say on the map, but Olive Orchard, 26, and Garner are a priority. The board has voted on it on our capital improvements and multiple times for safety.

Board Chair, I could just address that really quick. So in our next agenda coming up, our next board meeting, we do have what's a cooperative agreement with Caltrans to initiate some studies on that intersection to perform some of that work. It's also being captured in our five-year CIP as a high priority project. So as our efforts with that cooperative agreement continue to make progress, we should start seeing some plans come forward with some improvements in that intersection.

I was just looking at the numbers going through the report on the different roads, and you can see it all centered right around the same intersection. So, I mean, and some of the other ones that I reported on, I don't see as many dots that put it up as prior. So maybe I didn't really look at the deep numbers, but thank you. Yeah, but that's a big part of us getting grants is the actual numbers and collisions, because if people aren't reporting, then it's hard to get the money, right?

Yes, but at the same time, when we put the grant applications together, we kind of use both proactive and reactive approach. So, sadly, a lot of these grants do give a lot of weightage, like you're saying. to the collisions that have occurred at certain intersections and roadway segments. And if it is not reported, then we do get dinged up on it because then we don't have a high BC ratio or benefit to cost ratio. So what we do is when we put application together, we merge those intersections that have a lot of collisions with intersections similar type of characteristics together. That way, even if an intersection has similar characteristics but does not show as many collisions, we can still combine them in grant application and get funded.

I understand. The dots are kind of a little bit off the intersection. I'm wondering if that high-speed area, when people get hit, they get knocked to the spot and you put the dot out where they land. Because those are because of the intersection.

Right. So for that also, we don't consider collisions happening exactly in the center or 0, 0, 0, 0. We generally take 250 feet intersection radius. So anything within that 250 feet on both the sides. So actually 500 feet. Yeah. No, not the dot, but everything within that box is considered as collisions at an intersection. Yeah, and the dots are actual lat and long that the PD reports while reporting a collision. So even though it is outside the intersection, but within that 500 feet box, it is considered as a collision at an intersection.

Because I'd like to look at a couple on my map as well, because the actual box is in a HOA as opposed to on the highway. And I believe it happened on the highway.

And that's why I'm talking about not only reporting the incident, but correct reporting and reporting. maybe double checking the data because sometimes stuff happens.

Yeah. So we have, but if there is, if you feel that there is still an error, please do let us know. And we would definitely look into it one more time. And we have collected the data from different sources. So we have taken it from Tim's and Switters and PD and kind of brought all of them together. So definitely, you know, if we have made an error, we'll definitely go and look into it again. So, moving on to the next slide. So, overall, we did see that we had 356 injury collisions, and the injury collisions are made up of killed or fatal, as I said, severe injury collisions, visible injury, and complaint of pain. And as you can see, 6% contributed to fatal injury, 21% severe injury, 46% visible injury, and 27% complaint of pain. We also looked at different modes that were involved in these collisions. So 2% pedestrians were involved, 2% bicyclists. Sorry, the percentage over here is not seen, but we have 19% motorcycles, 1% truck, 2% others, 4% unknown, it was not reported which type of vehicle, and 70% either passenger car pickup or trucks. Overall, when we look at the collision types, hit object, overturn, and head-on are the three major collision types that have occurred within our county. And the violation category that have led to these collisions are, again, as I mentioned before, improper turning, DUI, and unsafe speed. We also looked at lighting conditions and 36% of KSI's occurred during dark time at nighttime and location 71% of them were on roadway segments and then approximately 30% at an intersection. So that is the overall trend that we have seen with the collisions. Based on the trend analysis, we have identified the top 10 high injury network from Little John Road to Baldwin Street to Murphy's Grade Road. And even though we have looked at the top 10 corridors, but when we came up with the projects for identification of safety projects, we have considered all the roads, all the intersections, and lumped them together into our safety projects. And the profiles that really stood out when we looked into the trends are hit objects, improper turning, nighttime collisions, DUI, overturning of vehicles, unsafe speed, motorcycle collisions quite a bit, and then riding on the wrong side of the road.

Also, you have marked here for the bike-safe pedestrians and collisions and safe routes for bicycles and everything. And those are both marked on the same intersection I brought up before.

Okay.

And there's major... Turing events that go all the way around the tri-lake area down in District 1 and District 5. And a lot of bicyclists go that same route that I was bringing up earlier.

Okay.

And we do have a bicycle collision there showing. Or near there. Since that safety, the bicycle happened right down the other side of another street, but. But pedestrian, I can't believe somebody was walking on all work right there. There wasn't enough room on that bridge for two people.

People do all sorts of things. Then the next section of this is chapter five, engagement and collaboration. We just want to kind of give you a gist of what was done. We did coordinate with partner agencies, stakeholders, school representatives, public safety representatives, community organizations to reach out to residents through in-person meetings or virtual meetings. And they were done per district. We had surveys, online engagement tools, We did have a project website, a map input platform where people could go and give us their comments and feedback. So we did receive 52 online survey comments as well as 63 interactive map comments. We had four technical advisory meetings, five virtual community meetings, and five in-person meetings. And we had approximately 95 to 100 attendees in these meetings. The themes that were brought up in those meetings were, again, speeding, lack of lighting, guardrails, rumble strips. Community did want to see speeds lowering down, also striping and no-shoulder issues, enforcement issues, and four-way stop at SR 4 and 26. So we have kind of collected all that information. The next chapter is policy and process change. Like I mentioned, we really believe that just engineering solution is not going to give us the best benefit. We need to really incorporate education, enforcement, other ease into our plan also to make it a robust plan. So with that said, we do have some recommendations with respect to education and outreach program. enforcement policies and practices, safe roads policies and engineering policies like speeds, intersection safety, and targeted policy for safe speed. And through this project, we actually had an opportunity to go after the grant funds for OTS. and we applied for it and fortunately we were able to get funding from OTS to look at the speeds within our county at certain corridors. So I think that that's a good first step to get grants from different funding sources. With that, we would like to jump into strategy and project selection. Rudy would go through all the projects that we have recommended through this process. So SS4A does want us to look into FHWA-proven strategies that have helped reduce these type of collisions. So we have followed those guidelines because that is the requirement of the plan. But along with that, if there were any other issues recommendations, we have gone ahead and made those recommendations too. So we have kind of balanced our safety project recommendations from both the aspects, what has worked for the county previously, what is new out there, and the FHWA proven countermeasure toolbox that we have used. With that, I would like to pass it on to Rudy. You can just press next.

Thanks, Ruta. So if you go to the next slide, I'm going to walk you through about seven projects we've identified for the county looking at the data that Ruta mentioned in her earlier presentation. So projects one through four kind of is combination approach of improving safety on your roadway segments. along with improving safety at your intersections. So project one highlights how we could improve corridor safety along the corridor via signage improvements, striping improvements. Project two is further going in more detail of how do we increase safety at your corridors by maybe adding some high-friction surface treatment, which adds more friction to the roadways, which makes the curves better. During icy conditions, people have better traction too. Considering guardrail improvements, especially with the damaged guardrails, and also adding new guardrails for enhanced safety on the curves. And then turnouts, having strategic turnouts, especially on your emergency vehicle. Fire evacuation routes is very helpful to the fire. And then looking at your signal, unsignalized intersections, since you have a lot of those, how to improve the safety there, better signage, better striping. So that kind of covers projects one through four, high level. I'll go into details in the presentation. Project five is to address the nighttime collisions we've been seeing by doing streetlight improvements. These improvements will be focused in areas that make sense and more pedestrian-centric where you will have foot traffic and also people driving more so at nighttime. And then based on the feedback we got through this whole process, we also added in project six and seven for sidewalk gap closures along with bicycle facility improvements because that was kind of feedback we received from the community and our stakeholder committee and the council as well. So we kind of try to get everyone's comments rolled into these safety projects. So if we go to project one, please. So looking at project one, it's a corridor safety improvement. What this does is it looks at a corridor as a whole, understands the type of things that are happening, You have a lot of improper turning, overturn, hit object, unsafe speeding, and DUIs. And the proven countermeasures for these type of collisions are installing longitudinal rubble strips. Those are the vibrations you feel when you start veering off the road to your left or kind of encroaching into the center line. Those help people stay in their lane, stay focused on the lane they're supposed to be in. Adding better warning signs, especially for nighttime. It helps drivers be more alert of what's coming up on the roadway, what speeds they need to be going at along curves. installing better radar speed feedback signs. These will be more structured as you enter into towns and areas where you need to start slowing down that, hey, I'm not on a top or a rural roadway. I'm coming into an area where I got to drive more cautiously. There'll be cross streets, pedestrian traffic, warning people of that ahead. And then also looking at striping improvements along the lane lines and things of that nature. Then project two, Further enhancing your... Actually, could I just stop you for a second?

I just want to make sure the audience knows that the CRF, can you explain that? That's crash reduction factor, and also just making sure that everybody knows that KSI is ill or seriously injured. So everybody's...

Thank you for reminding me. Yeah, so one thing I would like to highlight is the proven countermeasures that we've used as part of the FHWA... If you apply these countermeasures to your roadway segments, you're expected to get approximately 30% reduction in your overall collisions that are happening on your roadways. And this is just one of the elements of enhancing safety along the corridor. The second project will further help enhance that safety. This is by also going a little bit further by adding some more robust improvements to your corridors, like adding high friction surface treatment. This is especially useful in rural county roads where you have a lot of fast moving vehicles, especially on curves. The high friction surface treatment is applied to your asphalt and it improves skidding resistance. So when you're driving fast on icy roads and turning, you have better control and traction on the road and you stay stable. So it helps with people who are speeding to kind of drive a little more carefully. Installing turnout was an important one, especially on the emergency evacuation rounds. We want to make sure we have plenty of turnout areas strategically identified so fire can get to their destination whenever they need to. Guardrails is a very important aspect also of the roadway segment improvements because you have existing guardrails that are damaged clearly in areas where you see a need for better enhancements there. There we want to enhance the guardrails, improve the signage in that area, potentially maybe HFST in those areas. Then where we also have gaps in guardrails, we want to add them in too. That's where we look into the Highway Safety Improvement Program that's coming up in November. We're already talking to the county for improvements to guardrails via a set-aside project. You have up to $1.1 million in funding you can go after to improve your guardrails. So we're already in talks with the county for going after funds for that. But this document is important to going after those funds. And then with that, we would also look at signs and striping along your borders. Now moving from the roadway segments, the other important elements are your unsignalized intersections, which is project three. So the first element of enhancing an unsignalized intersection is other signages you see on the intersection approaches. One of the important elements is having proper signs as you're approaching the intersection. If it's a yield control you're approaching, a stop control you're approaching, you want to let folks know that, hey, you're approaching a stop control, be ready to stop. Or if you're on a curvy road, you have proper signs to tell you how fast you should be going on this curve or curve those chevron stripes that tell you signs that tell you that, hey, I need to be watching this curve as I go, especially at nighttime. So those type of things would help further enhance your signages. Also going a little bit step further in some areas where you have pedestrian activity is adding flashing beacons, advanced flashing beacons to really alert drivers like, hey, I'm approaching an intersection where someone may be crossing. I need to really pay attention. Improving your crosswalks to potentially have those RFP flashers like the ones you have right here and outside the council chambers at the intersection. Enhancing those type of facilities to further let people know, hey, someone's going to be crossing here. You better slow down as you're approaching. So those are the type of improvements when you look at it from a signage perspective for your off-signalized intersections. Project four kind of goes in hand with the other one. Once you look at the signage, you also have to improve the striping because striping and signage go hand in hand. So as you're approaching the intersection, you want to make sure your pavement markings are adequately visible. If they're faded, we want to refresh them properly so you know that you're approaching a stop, yield control, or any other type of traffic condition ahead. So if you're not able to see a sign, you can at least pay attention to the roadway and know which you're approaching. So striking is an important element with your center line, edge line, and that of both going hand in hand to improve your overall intersection safety. Project five is looking at street lighting. This is also a vital part based on the collision data. We do have 36 percent of collisions happening at nighttime, so adding street lighting is a very important element. And with county, we have to be mindful of where we're going to add the street light since it's so vast and so open. We're not going to add a light in the middle of nowhere. We want to keep it in more pedestrian-centric areas where you have foot traffic and, you know, people that are actually using the roadway at nighttime to better alert those areas and make them safer. And this would apply at intersections as well as corridors as needed. Then project six that we added based on a lot of the feedback we got is a sidewalk gap closure, especially in areas where you do have foot traffic and where people are trying to get to their destination, whether it be school, shopping, or anything. and they have gaps in their network, we want to fill those in with projects that are available or areas that we were identified through the public feedback we have received and things of that nature. So we added that in here. Again, by no means this is the only list here that's a starting point. As we hear more feedback, as we continue working with the county, we can always look at adding in more locations as needed. Private 7 is our bike facilities improvement project. Again, this is also to enhance the bikeability around the county for better safety for bicyclists because we do have folks that like to bike out here. As surprising as it may be. And, you know, we want to make sure they have a proper facility on these roadways to bike, especially where we have the space where we can use the shoulder to create a bike lane safely. We want to do that. And we've identified some preliminary locations based on the feedback we got. One of the last few projects we've identified is alcohol awareness program as DUI is a big concern within the county. So this is just an ongoing effort that the county's already been putting in. We're just further augmenting it by, you know, confirming that, hey, this is always an ongoing thing that we need to be aware of, educate folks, and work with the county to continue building on the work they've already been doing. And then the last thing is Angel's Camp. We did bring in a project for Angel's Camp a little bit later in our study based on the discussions we've had with the county. And on the projects I discussed earlier, which was project one and two, which were the roadway safety enhancements with intersection improvements for and street lighting are also identified for Angel's Camp for improving safety around the city of Angel's Camp as well. And that will be handed back to Ruth.

So the last two chapters are again for progress and transparency, because we want to make sure that we do have a before and after evaluation. We understand the benefits of the implementation as well as the safety measures that we are proposing. And then we need to go after funding, so we need to have an implementation plan to make sure that we tap into those upcoming grant opportunities that are there. So that has also been laid out in the report that Bay County can keep a track of it and go after the funds to implement these countermeasures and safety projects that we have identified. Next step is once we receive all the comments from you, we address your comments. We roll this into a final safety action plan and bring it back to you for adoption. So that is our next steps. And with that, I would like to open for discussion and questions.

I didn't get everybody's name on that film there and the consultants.

I'm wondering a couple of things. What strategies have you acted on to mitigate catastrophic fire and flood events to allow fire department and ER workers access and egress to perform evacuations and, you know, What if bridges are out? Moke Hill Bridge, Middle Bar Bridge, Calaveras River Bridges at Highway 12 and 49, New Maloney's, I believe they have a bridge over there in Copperopolis, Murphy's Creek, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. This project is obviously long-term. And I noted that you said turnout routes for evacuations. Thank you. But what's the plan and how much money are you asking the board for? Thank you.

We'll address the comments and questions at the end of public comment session all at once, Micah. Keep some notes. Okay.

For public comments, I want to thank the consulting group for their outreach to the community. I attended their meeting in McCollamy Hill. It was very well attended by the community. The impacted roads for my area extend all the way from Highway 26 to the other side of Sheep Ranch and all the way down to this community. So there's a huge county road area that I was able to comment upon what we see on traffic accidents, what we see on roadway conditions. When we finished that meeting that night, there was a lot of dots all over the maps that you had brought. And I appreciate seeing any report that you've taken our comments to harsh and they're going to be part of the final report. There's a variety of issues that caused the accidents across at least my district, both weather related and human caused. And so I look forward to the final report and am hopeful that this will give us a stronger leg to stand on to get some funding to make those things happen and lessen the number of events that I've got to go to. Thank you.

Thank you, Bill. I'd like to add, actually, it was Bill's staff that I met out at one of your fire stations and told some of the roadways.

Yeah, we were able to share some of our hot spots, if you will, and offered to help escort these folks through areas of the county that they might not have been too familiar with or maybe didn't want to go by themselves. There's some places out there. So I appreciate their work. Thank you.

Thank you, Chief. And I do want to say you have the most mileage of roads in the entire county.

Hello, Board. Cindy Lange, Murphys. I did have a question before I ever came here about the road work on Ebbets Pass that I understand is happening, and I don't have any details on it. But we only have two ways out of here if there is a problem, and that's coming down for or going up for it. And with the amount of construction happening up for at this time of year, it concerns me that you might only have one way out. And the one way out is very limited with the street light at Murphy's, the only light downtown. That traffic is easily a six mile back up. on a Sunday afternoon with no problems. So I would like maybe somebody could take a look at that. It could be really detrimental if there is an emergency. Thank you.

Further public comment? Online, Stacey.

If anyone online would like to speak, please raise your hand. We have one. Brian? Brian, can you hear us?

Hi, yeah, can you hear me now?

Yes, go ahead.

Yeah, I mainly just was asking a question. First of all, it's great to see you guys putting data like this together. It's very helpful. Is there any plan? So I'm with Poker Flat and Lake Tulloch Shores. I also posted a quick question up there. Is there any plan to reduce the flow of traffic speed on the stretch between Oberns Ferry and are on Oberns Ferry between the lakes and drifters?

Oh, is that the only public comment? Yeah. All right, so we can start answering them. There's no other raised hands online.

Correct? No other speakers.

I'll just address some of the general... Dave, let's start with the one on line real quick, just in case he loses connection or something. Sure, I'll let you guys answer that one.

So we do have Overters Ferry Road identified for roadway safety improvements with better cycling and speed feedback signs to help reduce speeding on that corridor.

And then in our OTS grant application that we did, that particular segment will also be studied for the existing speed that we see out there. And that background information will help us to reduce the speed if we satisfy all the criteria that are needed.

Thank you. Michael, can you repeat what you said at a staff announcement about the grant for a bunch because I don't know if some of the people online heard that not mother.

Yeah. So just to repeat that announcement. Calaveras, but what works Calaveras Council of Governments, following me County Transportation Commission and to all of me County Public Works Department. are working on a partnership grant for strategic planning with Caltrans to hopefully update the planning study for Burns Ferry Bridge to do some of the much needed improvements that are needing to be done on that bridge. So that's a big step forward that we're taking in a partnership with neighboring jurisdictions to hopefully raise awareness and increase the attention needed to provide funding for that project. Some of the other comments I could try to address that are kind of more generally sense. A lot of the bridge areas that were mentioned, concerns for fire evacuation, flood, things like that. So this does cross-reference the evacuations needs assessment and projects that have been identified in there that could receive improvements that are traffic related. have been captured in this. So many of the other bridges, some of the concerns with regards to flooding and things like that are kind of more of a holistic approach and isn't necessarily captured in the comprehensive safety action plan as this primarily focuses on traffic. However, we do have a bridge improvement program that takes a look at bridge improvements that not only increase the longevity of the bridge, but also increase capacity, whether it's water flow under the bridge or capacity of traffic over the bridge. Those type of programs are better positioned to address those types of concerns. So hopefully that answers that. We're not asking for any money from the board on this. In fact, we're actually asking the board for permission to pursue funding that will fund the projects that have been identified in this. So this is at no cost to the county. It will be covered under grants moving forward for any of the projects that have been identified and successful in receiving those grant applications. And as mentioned before, we have already received an OTS grant for speed studies. So many of the corridors that have been identified in this plan There's already plans underway to conduct speed studies in those areas and start taking some steps forward and implementing some of this, even though the plan's already in draft. So that just shows the success of the plan already. Here we are in draft mode, and we've already started gaining traction. So just to put some emphasis on how important this plan is and the success that it will bring us. Hopefully it answered any other questions. Let me know if you have any further.

Construction on Murphy.

Oh, construction on, yeah, in Murphy, it's on Highway 4. So again, this plan focuses on county-maintained roads, not the highway system. However, we do provide feedback and input to Caltrans in regards to areas that have been brought up should be of an area of concern and significance. So we'll continue to provide that feedback to Caltrans. We already are working with Caltrans on improving their road closure schedule and some of the other maintenance work that they're doing on that area because that work does, in fact, have an impact on our county roads. So we want to make sure that we're mitigating that the best that we can through our partnership with Caltrans.

And we do have a special section in the report and in the appendix listing those locations so that we can bring it up to Caltrans that, hey, you know, we need your help.

Yeah, yeah. Even on Hogan Dam Road, Gary's district, you have some collisions that happen on some of those that really aren't wide enough for two vehicles at one time. And they're probably across the county. So we're back to the board. I'll let you go keep smart. Thank you. You're on your button. I'd like to address. You know what? I'm going to go down in order and I'll be last.

Thank you. I'd like to address Cindy's concerns and just let her know that we did bring this up, the median and the whole light situation at the town hall. So that is in the mix. Also, the idea that the Caltrans is redoing the... Highly before, uh, mainly he had his past and I'll find out. But we are seeking better communication with them in knowing when they are going to be closing and it's a huge concern. Obviously, if there is an evacuation, because people will have it. I just want to make sure that you knew that we're on it. Okay. Um, so. Rudy. Rudy? What is it? Rudevich? Rudevich. Thank you. My main concern was how does Cal, as Supervisor Toffanelli said, how does CalTrans factor into this whole plan? Because ultimately, as we've moaned on many times about this median and especially for evacuation routes, how it is a major impediment. I really want to make sure also that the facts are correct. As I spoke to you before, I believe that some of the facts that were used to put in that meeting were not correct. And any plan that goes out, I want to make sure it's 100% bulletproof as far as where those things have happened and whether it was a fatality or just a regular accident. Do you know how many are local drivers versus people from out of the area?

We don't have that information. No.

And do you know how we compare with other jurisdictions in the amount of collisions that we've had in the last five years?

Yes, I can definitely get you an answer for that.

That would be great. In comparative counties, I would just love to know where we stand. Actually, we have that in the report. I didn't see that in the report, but again, it is so comprehensive. It's a lot of reading.

Sorry.

A supervisor got ready while she was looking at him. The report was shorter than the slides.

But smaller lettering. I'm a numbers guy, so I like this.

I'd like to address your question about the travel patterns. So we're actually doing the travel demand model right now in partnership with the cog and that travel demand model. we'll be identifying those exact types of traffic patterns, again, that's insight and input into that. And that will then further our effort in doing the rim nexus study, so that we'll have a better plan in place for how to charge the appropriate piece for that.

Thank you.

So there's a lot of moving parts. I apologize. There's a lot of different plans in play, and they all kind of cross-reference each other, but this is definitely a key piece of that.

I just say, lastly, I would love just to make sure that we don't lose the beauty within our rural roads. I mean, a lot of people come up here to drive these beautiful roads because there isn't a lot of signage in the way. And as we know, we want to keep our country feel. Thank you.

So I'm about 26. So page 12 gives you a small little summary on where does Calaveras County rank when we compare with the similar counties. So bicycle collisions, we have 48 out of 58 counties. DUI, fourth highest for alcohol-involved collisions overall. 50th for drivers under age 21. 18th highest for drivers under age 21 to 34. And pedestrian collisions, 38th highest.

Got it. Got it, got it, got it.

Thank you.

But if you need more, I can definitely give you.

Because we have so few underage people that they have the lowest in the state.

No.

It's 18.

It's 18 highest for drivers aged between 21 and 35. Oh. But yeah. Yeah, I did number four for DUIs though.

Yeah, so I get it now that that's pitting us against all the, okay.

Yeah, similar, similar size counties.

Got it.

And that directly comes from Office of Traffic Safety because they do collect the data and they kind of post it on their webpage when they compare it with all the different counties.

Thank you. But that's only reportable data. Yes, yes, yes.

Things that aren't caught on, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, yes.

No, thank you very much. Thank you. Ms. Sandahl.

Hi, thank you so much. I'm so happy to hear that you took my recommendation and went and drove some country roads that our first responders were able to guide you because, you know, specifically at country, there is so many one roads, zero shoulder roads. You know, it's a very different picture than other areas. Yeah.

I used to live up there.

So that's what not only our residents, but our first responders are up against. And as the public has already heard, this ties in a lot with our evacuation needs assessment and the full safety of our roads. So I very much appreciate project two of country, that high friction treatment that we are looking at that. It has made a big difference on the roadways that are impacted by the winter weather. the rain, the snow. So that's a good one. And then the guardrails, so happy to hear we're looking at that possibly with some highway safety improvement funding patching in. I know I've overemphasized a stretch on Mountain Ranch Road that desperately needs that. We unfortunately had a fatality on top of many, many accidents that our first responders are constantly dealing with. And then the turnouts, that is incredibly helpful. Like I said, these roads, some of them you cannot pass you know, a large truck and a fire truck at the same time. So having those turnouts is crucial. And then I wanted to remind the public that this full report is on our Public Works page. So you can see the maps they're referencing and the dots they're referencing and all the data. It's incredibly comprehensive. And like our director said, it goes along with other plans that we're looking at. So there's a whole nother project going for bridges and then whole other avenues for what's happening with Caltrans. So this is just one small piece of what our public works is doing for our roadways and our safety. And if anybody has any district two specific questions, please reach out. Thank you.

And then public comments over. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I heard the speaker that way. I was looking at Ms. Sandahl. Sorry.

I would just like to add that we are very glad that we could kind of, you know, consider all your comments and have projects. But just in case tomorrow you come up with another idea and you feel that, oh, God, this is not included in the report or any of you feel that, oh, we gave comments and that's not included in the report. There's one thing that we need to remember, that this is a living document. You have to come back to this to receive grants, right? There are certain things that have ranked really high for us when we did the analysis and we were able to accommodate your comments and we were able to gear our projects towards it. But for any reason, if we have not done that, it's not the end of the day because we have to come back to this. So just in case.

Mine is a little technical and it might screw these numbers out. I would like to see an adjustment to the new district lines. So the current district lines that are in this presentation are the old ones. And I understand that you are capturing from 2020 to now. But I don't know if there's a way to do an overlap. Because a lot of the stuff that's in my district is actually now in... I mean, if you want to draw my numbers up, that's fine. I mean, to qualify for some grants, I mean, that's fine. But I just want to make sure that maybe, you know, at an initial glance, I just don't want to confuse the public that they may think that I'm confused because I thought I was now in Martin's district, but this map is showing that it's still in Amanda's district, just for clarification. And I understand that that changed within the five years that you guys did this. So I don't want to make it too cumbersome to adjust the numbers, but just maybe reference, even if you have a reference that these don't reflect the district boundary changes from when this got initiated in 2020, I don't know what you do to that. But I just want to make sure that the public is not confused. You can write that sentence.

Unfortunately, a lot goes in with the boundaries and it's pretty much going back to the start to redo the boundaries and do the rest. collision analysis again and everything. So, but I do like your idea. We would definitely, for this particular report, we could say that the boundaries have been changed and here is the map for the changed boundary or overlap the new boundaries with the new one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I just don't want to confuse the public. And so I just want to make sure there's that transparency so there isn't any confusion. Because I know the amount of work that you guys have put in. I don't want you to get the calculations that you had to put into it and you're making these percentages. I just want to recognize that more for the public aspect than for us. We know, but not everybody out there does.

This goes back to 03.

I know.

That's why. And so, yeah, they've changed a lot, which these numbers, which I was going to bring up, I don't know. Will be skewed. This is not my district.

Right.

So, yeah.

This is more technical. Okay, so now on to some other stuff. Some of the things in my district, I just wanted to make sure that was highlighted, especially for lighting, was the Reed Turnpike, Main Street, and Burns. Um, that's really dope. I know that that was prominent, but maybe I missed it. And it just saying, oh, I know that is very long, but I just want to make sure that that intersection is truly captured into more like, put the elementary school, um, intersection. You could talk more. And just noted because it is really dark in there. You know, you talked about the lighting and signage and just recognizing that that's a dark intersection. The other is... Vaisya, could you please repeat the intersection of... We turnpike and Auburn's main... Main street, whatever. I mean, depending on if you're turning left or right.

Yeah, we have over in Ferry, Main Street, Mineral Street, and approximately 2,000 feet south to Reeds.

Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Perfect. Okay.

Perfect. The other is more of a technicality to maybe it's more, I think, directed towards the board. It is relevant when it comes to the City of Angels. I am concerned about the relevance when it comes to the Board of Supervisors. The Board of Supervisors has not formally adopted the greenhouse gas plan. And we are using a plan in here to reference unincorporated areas. And if we're going to go through with this to make this solid, we need to adopt the greenhouse gas plan as a board of supervisors to make this plan relevant. So the city has already done that. The county has not. And so I think that's another missing piece of this puzzle to ensure that this plan is solidified. So I don't know when that plan is going to be in front of us. We've been acting for four years, but I want to make sure that all the pieces to the puzzle are going to fit and we don't get lost. deemed on a technicality when we go out to grants. The city adopted, they are good. So they're relevant. We are not.

Yeah, I think the intent there was to highlight the fact that they do have their plan. And since they're part of this effort, we want to decide that. But you are correct. The county doesn't have their portion. So I'm hoping that it's clear enough that it's strictly for the Angels Camp portion.

And I understand that. I just want to make sure this board recognizes it, that we have not done our part for staff to support staff.

We have that our park staff has not finished the greenhouse plan.

Ben, can I just finish, please?

Okay.

Okay. And then we need to adopt it. The other thing is, could you walk me through La Honda Park? I don't understand why the Honda Park is on here. I would see more of an issue at the grade versus French Gulch.

Which project?

It's the Honda. It keeps getting mentioned. It's one of the high priority. And I'm not understanding. I think it's relevant to maybe the DUI. But it's not. I mean, it's there's homes down there, but I would see it more in front of school. And maybe you're just referencing it because it's the new road.

I don't get it. I think it's the Murphy's Grade Road that they're talking about.

Yeah. But it's La Honda Park. Can you walk me through?

La Honda Park. Is that the Hogan Dam Road?

No, La Honda on Murphy's Grade. That's on page 22.

Of the report?

Yeah, of the presentation.

Oh, presentation.

Oh, that's for the alcohol awareness, DUI.

DUI.

Yeah. I assume that you meant the grade.

Yeah. Oh, OK. So it's going to be a typo in the report then, in the presentation.

Yeah, could we make that more clarifying? Could we spell that out more in the presentation that it's probably more referencing the grade road? than it is necessarily behind the park.

And I think education is a huge factor here because I have been passed, or actually not passed, I've had young people coming head on, coming around the corner on a double yellow line on the Murphy's Great Road. So, I mean, I know I've said that to you before, but it's not just alcohol. I mean, maybe it was, it was in the middle of the day, but it's happened to me twice. And I think education is hugely important.

Well, I think it was speeding down that road, and there's so many twisty turns. They go out because they're gone so fast. I just wanted clarification. Yeah, I can get back to you. Is there a turning issue coming out of there? I mean, it is dark and stuff like that, but I guess I just wanted to understand why that went so high versus maybe some other areas on the Murphy's Gate. Okay. And then... Um, since I don't see any city elected in the room, um, I've got a couple of questions on the city plan. Um, you, you highlighted Dennis last. But when you're highlighting Stanislaus Road, I noticed in some of the other districts, you've highlighted the school that it's tied to. And Mark Point Elementary is not tied to Stanislaus. And so I want to make sure that we're highlighting the school because that entire area... is an issue. I feel like they put band-aids over it. It's one of the number one complaints that I get at the county level, especially with this plan coming out. And then I just want to make sure that, you know, you've got, hold on, you've got this elementary, but we didn't highlight Mark Plain and Stanislaus. It's Stanislaus Avenue. And San Joaquin. And then the second thing with the city is you talked about rumble strips. I just want to make sure that when you're indicating rumble strips, it doesn't overlap with some of the new bike and ped plans that will be coming in from the city. Some of those roads are one lane roads, they're not two lane roads. And then adding, recommending adding rumble strips is just going to further narrow that road when it's also, even right now, currently being used as bike route. And I'm concerned that, I just want to make sure that's thoroughly looked into. I know they're their own city jurisdiction, but since there's no electives in the room to comment, I just want to make sure that that's taken into consideration since they have so many plans coming out. I don't want to narrow, otherwise you're going to be widening those roads. And then the other is striping. So you talked about lighting, signage, but what about striping?

That's part of project three, I believe.

Okay. And that includes both jurisdictions, right? Correct.

Okay.

Okay. That's all I have for clarification. Thank you.

That's going to be hard to follow here.

Just clarify.

I love that.

Just one clarification. We did look into the bike improvements through other plans, and we are not proposing rumble strips so that it conflicts what they want on the bike path.

Okay. She brought up some of the concerns I had. One of them was the district maps that you had here. My district has shrunk a lot the last time we redistricted. So a lot of those numbers don't pertain to mine. They're outside of my current district. And I've been very lucky because we did have some safe road projects. Valley Springs School, Safe Roads, that school. So we also have, and I noticed on here, you were talking about bike paths. We have the post 3 project coming up starting next year, which is some of what you had on here about putting bike lanes in here. We have that project already developed. It's ready to go to start. So, I think that's going to meet some of the criteria that you have here within district 1 on in San Andreas altogether. I think that's going to be a good project. And it will meet, again, some of the criteria that we have here. So other than that, that's, oh, I do have, on page number four, you're going through guiding principles. And one of the guiding principles is design roadways to account for human error. How do you design for human error? And then to add to that, you may want to add on to that because we live in a rural county. We have animals just jumping onto the roads all the time, like deer or whatever, that people are trying to swerve to avoid quickly. So I don't know how you can build that into your projects here, but that to me is kind of along the human error part of it, that you just don't have any idea that something's going to jump out in front of you because there are real roads that we live in.

Yeah. So a perfect example is installing guardrails, right? So even if human is making an error, the guardrail really protects that collision from becoming fatal. Or a perfect example is rumble strip. You do sleep at your wheel, either you're tired or DUI, the rumble strip makes that sound and wakes you up. So that is compromising for the human error. So we are trying to come up with countermeasures that could compromise for the human errors that are out there. So it's kind of finding that fine balance. Nothing is completely proven that it's 100% avoidable, but whatever we can do from transportation perspective, we are trying to account for it.

Great. Again, one of the major issues that I hear all the time is my animals just jumping out in the road when people are driving. So I don't know how you account for that, but...

like signages making sure that we do it it's kind of difficult but at least you know if there are a stretch of the corridors that we know for sure that animals do use for crossing we sign them well reduce the speeds for those corridors um Let them know well in advance that there is an animal crossing. Have those signs have retro reflectiveness during nights so that they're more visible, things like that. Some examples I could give if you have more to add.

Thank you.

I already made my statement about Olive Orchard, Garner, 26. Burson, Rudd. It's on there, but that was a district thing, but it's in both our districts. So, Gary, you can have the whole thing now. Yeah, and we would love to have it done. I have the other half of the road for part of it.

Again, to bring up Olive Orchard Road, Olive Orchard Road and Burson Road, that intersection, there's a bridge right there to the right as you're coming down Olive Orchard Road, and it's very narrow. And people are coming down there and then people are trying to turn left. I'm sorry to take notes, but that's very Danish.

It goes right into I'm going to follow up with Gary. Rural designations, the state law, any rural designation, even if it's rural residential. and it doesn't have a posted speed sign, the speed limit's 55, even if it's Garner Road, which we recently, we did a speed assessment, but Rancho Calaveras is the largest community in all of Calaveras County. Over 3,000 developed properties, quite a bit more than 3,000 developed properties, and at one time was the largest subdivision in the entire state of California. It is all entirely rural residential. There are very few signs going up throughout the whole community. A lot of these are thoroughfares that are county property. Some are in the CSA. You hear me on that, right? But there's quite a, it's amazing how much are actually out of the CSA and that are county roads. And anytime we can do a speed assessment, but you know what? I wanna know if we can find a law where we can get these residential roads that are designated rural. What's the workaround? Because everyone's like, put up a speed sign. and put it right here because this is where everyone's speeding. If everyone's doing 55, that justifies the speed limit. And so you have to be within, so what's the percentage of the speed limit that you actually come out with the radar detector is like within? 85%. So 85% of the people have to be, let's say, driving 35 to be able to get down and move to that speed limit. State law says. So we can go out there and say, this is horrible. People were driving through by kids at 55 miles an hour, but that's a predominant problem with the entire county. And it's not just Rancho Calaveras and Burson Road. I mean, there's ag properties on both sides, you know.

That's one of the things that could be done is to do another review of the functional classifications of our roads and see if there's updates that need to be done there. And that would have an influence on recommended speeds.

I won't be around for it, but it would be great for our county to have something to deal with that because right now doing the speed test is counterproductive most of the time. I mean, and we get in trouble if we wait until someone's doing road work there and then do the speed test during road work. Oh, everyone's driving zero. Five miles an hour up to the salt sign. So we can't do stuff like that on manipulation. But yeah, if there's a workaround with a policy, a law designation that we can do within the county, please do it for Calaveras County so that we can get some of these residential areas safer. Thank you. I haven't heard the solve word yet, so I'll be impressed if you find it like that. I will high five you. I'll come back and I'll give you a bonus. All right. That's all I have.

We could use transverse stripes, but again, it comes with a little bit of noise pollution. But depending on how far it is from the residential.

And the cost on that for the county and how many votes we have to pay and we don't have the money as it is. science would be simple cheaper yep so my kind of count on me okay that's all i have i don't have any questions i'm just giving him work all right so did you take a list of everybody we're going to put this all on the next uh item when it comes back to us And then the board members will prioritize to come up with how many we have to prioritize and. Well, we'll turn it upside down for you.

Okay.

I mean, I can print it out for you right off the agenda. If you want. Okay.

We can do it. Please make the district judgment. Yes.

Yeah. We'll put some language in there about that. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll definitely do that.

Do that for them, please.

Yes.

Absolutely. And anything else Ms. Bollendorf wanted because she gets what she wants.

All right. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

We appreciate your time.

And now we can go to public comment. No, we already did public comment before the board talked, Marty.

I didn't forget anything.

I know. We're having them up right now. Sir, you're up. Yes. And then we have anybody else that didn't do public comment earlier. Please come up and. Sir. Okay. It was an hour and a half. I apologize about that, but I got to stick to my guns.

I understand it. That was not a problem. Supervisors, I'm sorry, I lost to go back and forth. County Council, Ms. Hitchcock, thanks for your time. Thanks for listening. Today, you certainly heard the passion that people have on this issue. It matters to them deeply, profoundly. They live it. It's every single day for them. And so I don't want to go over what they have already talked about. What I would like to do is take a minute and simply talk to about some of the responses that have been in some of the information that's been put out by the county. You know, you've heard why fire matters. I want to talk about the fact sheet that the board put out, what it says, and maybe what it may leave out. I'd start with the idea of an unexpected flip, the fact that Measure A has an unexpected amount of money to it. I'd counter that and say that there was nothing unexpected about it. The voters passed it on purpose because FIRE was already underfunded, okay? So it's important to keep that in mind. Using it as the reason to take the TOT kind of inverts what the voters intended. So I'd like you to really consider that. The 7% trap, if you will, the sheet says that the TOT less than 7% of FIRE funding If that's trivial, I don't think the number is, but why take it from fire at all? Does that make sense? It either matters or it doesn't. And I'd suggest leave it with the service that shows up when your house is burning. or you're in a car wreck, as we were just talking about here. If we talk about Proposition 172, again, it was named fire protection in that it was right alongside the sheriff and the DA's office. So it has an equal priority. It's kind of not something that can be bounced around, if you will. It's named and it's in there. So it's important to consider that. I know I'm running out of time, but I just want to close with three questions. Remember, EMS is 80% of what they do out here, and that affects all of us every single day. I question, why is fire the only recipient that's getting a cut? What's the impact on our insurance? Was there a look at the ISO increases that may go on? Can we reevaluate that? And why cut a service that most of us, although this is what we'll most likely need? So really, I just want to leave with that. I wanted to be concise. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

I appreciate the patience of you waiting, Senator. I just thank you.

Thank you.

Sir. My name is James Duff, and I'm an ex-hotshot from Globe, Arizona. I was a founding member in 1974, and I've seen a lot of fires. And I've seen a lot of fires in California. I burned my house down November 17, 2020, in Mono County. I saw smoke three and a half miles away and it was in my front yard in 13 minutes. There was no sirens. There was no sheriffs. There was no police. There was no cow fire. There was nothing. My neighbor across the street died before I even got a chance to meet her. Name was Sally Joseph. You guys burned down 965 houses. In September of 2015, 965 houses here in Butte County. Two people died here in Calgary on the Butte fire. 965 houses burned down to the ground. You lost two people because they didn't leave. And that's common for most people not to leave. They're afraid. They stay with their house. In my fire, my neighbor, another neighbor, had to drive her car out of the garage with the garage door down because power went out, so the garage door opener didn't work. So she beat her brains out getting out of that house, but she did it. My tires melted on the road getting away. I'm just here to ask you to reconsider what you're doing. We lost 19 hot shots in Arizona. We just lost the fourth member in Rifle, Colorado two days ago and the hospital died of burn injuries. Calaveras County doesn't need these problems. You guys have a problem in Calaveras County. They're gonna look at this decision and they're gonna blame you guys. You're gonna be held to account for taking all this money away from the fire departments. And you're probably gonna get some wrongful death suits if you kill some firemen in the process. We've got two firemen just got injured in Sonora on Sunday. I think you're supposed to vote on this, what, September 9th? That's the anniversary of the Butte fire, September 9th, 2015. And this presentation you just listened to, if you go back to the beginning in bold print, the very first thing it says is prioritize human life. That's what this whole safety plan is all about. Prioritize human life. That's what you guys are responsible for. And like I said, I'm sorry to have to be here. You're three minutes early. Thanks for listening.

I appreciate your time. Is there a further public comment? With that, I'll bring it to online.

Reminder to anyone online, if you would like to speak, please raise your hand. We have Brian in.

We have a couple of people.

Brian, go ahead.

No, no, no, no, no. Brian.

Hi, how are you? There you are. Can you hear me? Go ahead. Yes. My name is Brian Shrigley. I'm the general manager at Poker Flat, and we are a firewise community in Copperopolis. In the past years, we've seen TOT funds collected, although not voter-mandated percentages. We're typically split 25% fire, 25% Sheriff's Department fire. 25 roads and 25 tourism we respectfully ask the board to reconsider any proposed reduction in funding for local fire districts thank you and we have one more online rosemary hi good morning um

I really think that fire is a big issue. I lost my house in the Butte fire, and I would hate to see another incident where there weren't funds available to fight for the community. I realise it seems highly complex, the modes of funding these days, and very difficult for people me in particular and probably others to fully be aware of all the funding streams and the limitations and ramifications. But please, I don't want to lose my house in Arnold. Thank you.

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With that, I'll do a supervisor's announcements and I'll go ahead and start out. So I would like to pull the board on next meeting, a discussion on possible revenue streams and a 10% Uh, possible addition to the cannabis taxes and having it be able to come in at 10% would come in and approximately $400,000, just a round number, not exact, but, uh, and then, uh, if we do that, we could have it done in time for, uh, PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe. PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe. PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe. PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe.

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PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe. PB, David Ensign he or he will be three quarters, I believe. I did discuss it. And yes, it does take time. And I appreciate your time.

So. Sorry, to be quick. Sorry, I didn't mean like staff time. I just meant obviously the ordinance has to be introduced. Right, I know.

That's why I'm saying this. That's why we would want to put it in for the 11. Because it would have to sit for one month prior to. So can staff do it in that amount of time? Yes.

So, if I'm understanding correctly, the question is to bring back to bring an ordinance at our next board meeting, which is. August 11th sounds right. That would adjust the current decrease to.

Well, that would be up to debate for the board, but we'll start off with a. 10% area. And then so that the board makes the decision.

So the only issue is that, you know, obviously the ordinance. That's introduced has to be substantially what is then voted on, right? Or else it would have to get introduced. Yes, right. But I guess what I'm saying is we would need either direction today on what the number to be brought then on. Okay.

And we need to go less than, but not above. I'm asking.

It can never go above the cap that the voters approved. Right.

Do we have to stick with a percentage right now?

What I'm trying to articulate poorly is that the ordinance that gets introduced has to then be substantially what is brought back or would have to be reintroduced.

Okay. So substantially. So these little gray areas, Sarah.

So I think... David Ensign, A percentage if the board wishes to give direction today on what to bring on the 11th we can do that, alternatively, there can be a discussion on the 11th and then you bring forward exactly what the board.

David Ensign, Okay, oh. David Ensign, And we got it because now we're going to have a debate.

David Ensign, Right now, this can just this can just be telling staff to agenda is it or not, because it's not that's correct right.

So I would like to put something on to bring it because at any time we can bring this back before the board and go for a fourth, fifth vote to change it. Even if it is going to sunset at the end of 2027. So that's the reason I don't want to bring it back to the board because we, we don't have to wait for it to sunset. We can change those taxes. I'm still mindful of the economic impact. viability of how it's going and everything, this is going to hurt the growers. They have to compete with Santa Barbara and Humboldt counties, and this will put them behind there in selling their product. But at the same time, if we be pragmatic about it, we need some of that money to help cover our structural deficit. Where that money goes will be decided in December, in September. But that $400,000 is substantial. And I think 10% is a reasonable change that will not kill the industry. And we can put it up for, I mean, HAB-Jacques Juilland- Would it be substantial probably if we said how many years and then, but the board can always bring it back and make a decision later on. HAB-Jacques Juilland- We can decide that during the meeting yeah that can be that can be discussed at that meeting okay so right now we're coming back with a change. HAB-Jacques Juilland- 10% is what i'm suggesting, I think that. Right now, with the market prices and the way the market is and everything I've looked at, that's actually a little bit more than a lot of them. Well, of course, none of them want to pay the tax. But some of them, it's going to hurt. Some of them are going to have to lay off an employee or something. And that's one less worker in Calabrese County, possibly. So... I mean, for each, for each grub. Who knows? But $400,000 is, we don't have any, we reached everywhere. We cut every department, except for the money we're required by the state for roads. Every department got cut, not every. And every department got cut for four years. So this is part of the discussion I want to have, because we want to think about other possible revenues. Mark, what do you say to 10%?

I don't think that we should leave any stone unturned. And I would be in favor of seeing what that brings. OK. Paula?

Yeah, I would agree with Martin. I think we've exhausted a lot. And yeah, we need to be looking in every single corner.

10% reasonable.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- I need to look back at this and read through, you know I need to.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Well.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- yeah that's a discussion that needs to take place at a meeting where it's brought forward yeah so.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay, so okay.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- If your proposal is 10% and that's what staff can agenda is in the board can discuss it at that time. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay it's not today's agenda excellent.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- yeah.

Yes, I agree with what they said. I think we need to look at everything. I mean, since we have a lot of comments coming in and we've got other things we need to make decisions, I think I would also like to see not just that, but other opportunities for revenue and start bringing the revenue workshop into the public setting.

Yes.

Because we are going to have to severely make further cuts. It's going to impact the sheriff's office and deputies and the DA's office. And I'm concerned about that. And we need another dedicated revenue stream. And be strategic on what that's going to look like. And if that means another sales tax increase, we need to look under every stone because we are in serious trouble.

Yes. I concur. Mr. Toffanelli, what do you think?

I'm open to bringing it back and having a discussion on our calendar for next meeting. I'm open to that. But I think one of the things that you said is a very good point, and Amanda brought up too, that every department has taken a cut. People are talking about... Our department and TOT tax and nobody, the sheriff and emails and take a cut from TOT. They took cuts in other areas. Not from that. They took big cuts and they have for the last couple of years. So they have been cut. Every department in this budget. Has been reduced. And a lot of them have been dealing with it for the last two or three years because our income has gone down. I think it's a very good point that people need to understand that it's not just the fire department. It's the sheriff's department. It's the DA. It's probation. It's every department of public works. It's every department has taken a cut on their funding, and they're having to deal with it. So I'm more than happy to have this come back, and let's have a take a look at it, and maybe some other areas of funding that we can look at. I'm in favor of what Amanda was saying between now and then, and that open discussion that we can have at that time about other funding sources. So yes. Yes. That was a solid yes, sir.

Sarah, I'm a yes. Okay. And I think that, so I'm asking for, right now, we heard at least three say it, a discussion on other things. I think that that's two different agenda items, maybe coinciding one before the other, like the discussion on all our alternatives for possible funding. And have that discussion and then have an agenda item following it up with the. Possible increase in taxes or. I guess the right way to say it is reduction of the reduction because it's that's how it's written into the code.

Yes, the ordinance, the cannabis excise tax ordinance, that adjustment would have to be its own separate agenda. We can get that on the board's agenda for the 11th. And then, yes, any discussion about potential other revenue sources would have to be separate. And, you know, I would I would defer to the CEO as to whether that's something that can be accomplished on the 11th versus at a different meeting.

And that being brought up, me bringing that up, I understand that this may not be brought up at the next meeting. I just want to make sure that it's at some future and in coordination with it. I don't want to bring that to be running before the next board meeting. I just want to lay out my expectations a little bit more.

Yeah, I get it. But as chair, I think it's an informational item. Yes, there will be some work into it, but it's not as substantial as some other items. The substantial part would be after we start blowing our steam towards you. I mean, that's where the real work comes in. And we will have to be mindful of that. And you will have to. I'm pushing for the next meeting. To talk about it. And then, at the same time, we can talk about our capacity, because we've cut a lot of areas and we don't have the capacity to do a lot of these things at the same time. Because I'm looking at county council right now that's looking for more lawyers to be able to help carry the capacity in the county, and this is part of our problem. Right? I mean, this is what we're going to be discussing. So capacity will be part of the discussion so that we have to be mindful about the staff's capacity at the same time. Teresa.

So, as far as revenue ideas, I know that we went through an extensive revenue workshop with the board. Earlier this year, I think it was in January, are you looking to have that revenue discussion here at a board meeting? The same, because it was very lengthy. If you'll recall, we went through a number of revenue streams that could potentially offer relief to the general fund. If that's something, it would be probably the same amount presentation that we did prior. As you're aware, my team's pretty strained right now with trying to get the final budget together, and I hate to put another huge project.

I think that would be phenomenal. It's just the same presentation. We can go back and look at it, study up, and then we could work off that and let you get your other work done.

And I think it would be important for the public to see how This isn't something that's happened overnight, and I think people have missed joining those other meetings to see what the board is truly discussing when we are literally saying we are turning every stone unturned, and we have asked staff to cut and cut, and now we're into the potential threats of layoffs. We're not filling staff positions, especially in...

So, I would agree with that assessment that those meetings, although they were public, we had no public participation. So they did not get the benefit of seeing what that looks like. And that is. You know, some of the things that were most disturbing here today is folks thinking that those discussions haven't taken place in a public forum when they have indeed taken place in a public forum. They just haven't participated in those. So we would really like to have that discussion here.

I think I think it would be great, especially for educational. So I really want to thank the small door for bringing that up. There's something in my mind I was turning over how to do it, but now's the perfect time. And if we have to work a little bit longer, we can make up for some time we took off this month. So, you know, I don't want to put too much on.

The public's engaged right now, right? So, you know, and there's talk today of things being buried in consent agenda and minutes not public. We had two days of budget hearings. Unfortunately, folks weren't there. But if they want to be there now, then a summary of what we've been through, where things, how it all works, how departments are funded. If the public wants to have the whole picture, that's fantastic. And the meetings are always public. Everything happens right here.

Well, it was reaction. They didn't know the fire was... started until after they heard about the numbers. And then, you know, I understand it was shocking to us. It was painful for all of us.

Yeah, I was just going to say, and how closely we have to shave everything to the bone. And we are considering every public safety entity, not just fire.

Yeah. We're looking at two people on this board that work closely with fire, in fire, or have family that are in fire. And I remember watching the pain in their eyes when they were having to make these hard decisions. So, you know, I have family and fire, but I haven't been into it as much as they have. Those two ladies made a hard decision. It was painful for them. I'm talking a little bit more about it than I should right now, but I think we should bring this back for. I think the board all agrees, Theresa. I don't want to put too much on him.

So I'd like to ask as well, because there was a lot of misinformation put out about fires budgets. Would the board like to see a detailed analysis of the fire departments or fire districts budgets and what those look like for the past few years to show?

I would like to see how Measure A has affected those budgets. That's part of it. And what Measure A can and cannot be used for.

Absolutely. We can do that.

Absolutely.

And then also, since we already have it all on a budget book, what the losses were for the other departments just for each year in totality, I mean, they've been giving up for four years. I've watched the Sheriff's Department go down in revenue four years in a row. And I said it last year during the budget when this was the fire departments were here for a TOT that year in the beginning of June. And I told them I was supporting them that year and Gary was on the same page right there that we are responsible for fire. California took that away and New York County, But we do care. But when we cut the Sheriff's Department for four years in a row, and the amount is nowhere close to that you've lost compared to what they've lost in four years. They actually lost more than all your 10 departments this year. Even though we were able to bring back, I can't count how much. They lost a lot of money. They had to lay off guys. I'm looking at two guys up back there that, you know what? I hope we can retain you. I enjoy you guys. I appreciate you. Because you can go get jobs someplace else sometimes to pay better. But I hope your heart's in Calaveras. And we appreciate you. Awesome. I would never... But the... You know... We do appreciate the fire departments. We have carried you. We have given to you. You have my heart. My mom was a fire chief. My dad was a captain and an assistant fire chief. You know, I lived in a firefighter family. No public comment. You can sit down. You can sit down. You can sit down.

Supervisor comment.

Right. I'm just saying. Let's bring it back.

Sorry. I have an alternative motive. I got to pee really bad, so I really want to keep going.

Okay. Let's do the rest of the... Do we have a readout?

Can we finish that? No, we still have supervisor comment.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were going to do that. I threw myself off the polling. All right, Jared. We attended last Monday night.

We will have a COG meeting coming up, I believe, next week. And that's all I have to say. I too attended the LAFCO meeting with Gary and the LAFCO is kicking off the fire district MSR that is the priority for LAFCO. So thank you to all of the fire departments that have responded to LAFCO staff. So we can get that going and start working through each of the special districts. Just side note, I want to thank staff for from both Colorado County and Wyoming County, the crowd on their collaboration on securing that grant were a bunch, very much. This has been many years in the making. And, you know, these things don't happen overnight. And I really appreciate the collaboration that went into this and trying and trying again. And, you know, finally getting it on once the fifth time. I don't know, I've lost track of time. But I look forward to the progress going forward with that. So thank you, DeFess. The other thing I wanted to pull the board, if the chairman would allow me to indulge, is a proposed moratorium on data centers. I've been watching Mendocino County. I've been watching a lot of other jurisdictions and I would like to see if there's any interest to propose a moratorium on data centers and just start that process to prohibit the large scale data centers, especially in unincorporated Calvary. and to adopt an immediate moratorium while an ordinance is prepared on that. It's been a lot of discussions and conversations, and we've got a lot of natural resources that are very attractive, and I would like to kind of put a break on it and make sure that we don't get bouldered into a project and we're thoughtful and thorough on that. So it was just, not a tomorrow. I know I'm dumping more stuff, but I see what's happening around us and more and more jurisdictions are getting cornered in because it's gone so far into the planning. You can't back out. And so I want to pump the brakes and make sure we're making the best decision that represents our community.

Is that something to you, Rahim Fondor, that We could agenda is an informational item to discuss and get direction from the board.

However, that looks like it makes most logical for staff to get input from the board. If the board is interested in it.

Okay, here's how we're going to do it, Martin. So we don't end up talking forever because, you know, I can't, you know, I can can't and she has to be. So here's where it goes. I'm for it, especially because of the electrical infrastructure issues in the county and causing more fires.

Yes, I'm bringing a discussion forward. Yeah.

Okay.

Yes. Okay. We'll work on giving that agenda.

I have one other item to bring up. I have a Mountain County's EMS agency special meeting on Thursday. And people don't know Mountain County's EMS agency. That's the agency that provides the ambulance service for all of this county, Alpine County, Mariposa County, and Amador County. Not only ground ambulance, the Fire departments, no. We certify the EMTs and paramedics. It's a big safety issue with that. And so we have a special board meeting to elect a new executive officer. That will be Thursday. And that's another agency that's outside of the county. This has some funding issues, too. It's just the times that we're in right now. But we'll be... online, that'll be a Zoom meeting. You can go to the, if you wanna be part of it or see what's going on with it, you can go to Mountain County's EMS agency, and it's posted on their website where you can click and Zoom in to that meeting. Thank you, Mr. Toffanelli. Ms. Danville.

Okay, I'm gonna speed through. I've had a busy month. On July 2nd, I attended the Comprehensive Safety Action Plan Technical Advisory Committee meeting about the presentation we saw today. On July 8, I attended the Friends of the Calabasas County Library meeting. I want to thank Public Works for their Clean California Recycle events. The one in West Point on July 11 was very popular and well attended. I got rid of an old dishwasher myself. On July 17th, I spoke at the Senior Network Well Together event about our parks and recreation in Calaveras County. On July 20th, I joined Supervisor Hoverty on a call with Assemblyman Tangapa trying to bring awareness to issues in Calaveras County. On July 23rd, I joined Supervisor Tofanelli in a meeting with some Calaveras County Fire District Chiefs. HAB-Juliette Boone, On July 24 I attended the upper mcconnell me river watershed authority meeting on July 27 yesterday I attended the strategic planning meeting. HAB-Juliette Boone, And then also yesterday the meeting with central Sierra child support agency, and I want to remind the public that tomorrow caltrans starts their roundabout project in mcconnell me hill. at Highway 49 and 26. There will be traffic delays, detours, and it's all on the first day of school for Calabasas Unified School District, so it's going to be very hectic. Please be patient, leave extra time, drive safe. Thank you.

Thank you. June 24th, CMCAA Finance Committee meeting on the 25th, Fire Safe Council and the Resource Connection on the 28th, the Love Creek Property Owners Association meeting on the 29th, Murfrees Community Club band played in the park on the first Friday in the park, which was huge with the Murfrees Creek. A community club. The fourth MC, the Arnold Parade, which was amazing. More people than ever up there. The seventh meeting with CCWD with Autumn and our CEO. And then a behavioral health meeting on the 8th, an Ebbets Pass Scenic Byway meeting on the 9th, Area 12 Agency on Aging. On the 10th, I was working with PG&E Walking Murphys to see where the new transformers are going to go. On the 11th, Metamon. Thank you. Homeowners Association, and I volunteered at the death riot, which was amazing this year. On the 13th, I attended the cold case task force. Captain Stern, Reginald Frisbee, 40 years later, identifying his remains and giving them back to the family. It was a very emotional moment. On the 14th, I met with Chief Johnson and Jocelyn Layton about some STRI issues. On the 15th, I attended the Bear Valley Kickoff with the composer Alexander Mithelswaite. On the 16th, the Fire Safe Council and the ERSN Network. On the 17th, I read Calaveras State Fair, and then was at Murphy's Homecoming that evening with Maureen Elliott. On the 18th, I got put in the pokey in the park. 19th, Willie Nelson. He was a legend. I thought he'd come out for two songs, and he sang for an hour and a bit. Amazing. Night at Ironstone. Again, on the 20th, I want to thank Supervisor Andall for putting that meeting together with our assemblyman. I thought it was very successful. On the 22nd, I met with our new friends at the library, Susan Sanchez, who also spoke today. And on the 27th, with Supervisor Endall, the Strategic Planning Commission. And the last thing I wanted to say is I actually got to meet some of the poverty relatives that came back that I've never met before from the Joseph Poverty Line, which I thought was really cool. And they looked me up because I have the job that I have. They were able to contact me. It's great.

Thank you, Marvin. We're good.

Really quickly, I just want to share. Yeah, give your question. I just want to share for the public. Also, all board meetings are available on the Calaveras County Clerk YouTube channel. And that link is also on the Board of Supervisors webpage as well. So all of these meetings are recorded and they are available to the public at any time.

Thank you.