Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, April 28, 2026
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Government Body
Board of Supervisors
Meeting Type
Board Of Supervisors
Location
Calaveras County, CA
Meeting Date
April 28, 2026

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186 sections (from 431 segments)

2:22 – 2:430

Welcome to the April 28th, 2026 regularly regular meeting of the Calgary County Board of Supervisors. Um we'll start out with close session. Do we have reporting out last time? I think we already did it, right? Correct, we did. Okay. So we'll just do our one close session agenda item, please.

2:41 – 3:240

Close session for today, April 28th. Item one, pursuant to government code 54957.6, conference of county designated labor negotiators, Terresa Hitchcock, Judy Hawkins, and Shay Johnson regarding the following employee organizations. Calabaris County Public Safety Employees Association. CalaBaris Management Union, Cala Supervisors Union, Deputy Sheriff's Association, Service Employees International Union, Local 1021, Sheriff's Management Unit. Thank Thank you. We'll go into close session and we'll be back. I'm sorry, Chair, we have no online no

3:22 – 3:370

public comment. I wasn't ready for that without anybody in the audience. I know reminding me. Nothing online, nothing in the room apparently. We'll go into close session now.

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Welcome back to the Calvary County Board of Supervisors meeting for April 28th, 2026. Uh, report out for close session.

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Report out for close session. Item one, pursuant to government code 54957.6, conference county designated labor negotiators Terresa Hitchcock, Judy Hawkins, and St. Johnson. regarding the following employee organizations. Calaveris County Public Safety Employees Association: Cala's Management Union, Calabaris Supervisors Union, Deputy Sheriff's Association, Service Employees International Union, Local 1021, Sheriff's Management Unit, Board Action. No reportable action taken.

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Mr. Tooffen, can you lead us in the pledge, please? United States of America and to stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all

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staffing. announcements. Lisa, good morning.

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Good morning everybody. Lisa Medina, environmental management. And we have FA as always wonderful staff and this is Radar. So Raider is about four years old. Um he's a male um water collie mix and he is about probably about 57 pounds. He's fully vaccinated. So, Radar is a joyful, active dog who loves playing with his dog buddies. When he first came here, he was a little intimidated um by other dogs, but he's um seems to be getting along really well with other dogs now. He gets real excited and as you can see, he likes to sniff all everything. He was sniffing my shoes and sniffing other people because, you know, dogs do that. They just like to it's how they identify things. He also likes to flip over on his back with his goofy tongue rolling out on his face. and he likes belly rubs. Uh if you are interested in radar, please contact us CCAS at 209754-6509. On a very serious note, um we discovered over this past weekend that several of 10 pups that we took in a few weekends ago um tested positive for parvo. Parvo is a very serious disease. We've had to make some difficult decisions. This required CCS staff to immediately and appropriately identify any potential exposures and to make some very difficult Oh, see belly rub. Hi.

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Does anybody want to do a belly? I'm telling is a very cath started.

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This required our CCA staff to immediately address and appropriately identify any potential exposures immediately. and we had to make some difficult decisions on those infected animals that were displaying symptoms while others in the shelter. Uh we were identifying and applying strict protocols including immediately instituting mitigating measures immediately maintaining isolation and separation of a mom and her puppies which we already had in ISO so they are protected. identifying dogs that are at the highest risk due to exposure, meaning that they were located right next to the positive dogs of or parvo. Implementing an elevated strict sanitation and cleaning regimens, wearing PPE, which means staffer in Tyveck suits, booties, you name it. Um, and when handling any suspect cases, and also managing the current population and protecting other dogs in the shelter. CCS will be in a partial shutdown for the next 14 to 21 days as we do further assessments. Um, as we continue to monitor our population and those pups we have identified from being low to medium to high risk, we are asking our community and our public for support, our partners, stakeholders, everybody for their support and compassion for this event and to please check our social media for any updates. In the meantime, if you find a dog and pick it up, please make sure you are willing to make other arrangements besides dropping it off at our shelter. Ways to help an animal that you find are check with neighbors to see if they recognize the animal. Raider's quite quite the person as quite the the spot. Take the animal to the nearest vet or shelter to have it scanned for a microchip. Post the animal on social media and ask people to share it. make flyers and post them throughout the

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community where the animal was found. So all this will be posted and is posted on our social media um and we will be making announcements further announcements as as we do further assessments and we'll provide updates accordingly. We cannot stress the importance of vaccinating your pups for distemper, hepatitis, par um paroinfluenza and of course parbo virus as these are highly contagious and preventable with the DHPP vaccine. With that I wanted to announce we have our next free rabies and microchip clinic June 13th. How did June get here already? This will be held here at the government center with our attending veterinarian Kathy Gatlin. We're at the government center. Do you have any questions?

1:10:51 – 1:11:360

I do. How's parvo um contracted? So parvo's contracted. It's highly contagious. Um typically um if uh there's an incubation period approximately 5 to 10 days for exposure. Um and during that incubation time as just like with humans when you catch a cold we don't know we have the symptoms um it's shed um through diarrhea you know through sharing of water uh dishes food you know as I stated before we had some high levels of exposure on a dog that was positive um mucus you know uh that type of thing. Gotcha. Thank you. You're welcome. And with that, does anybody want to take back home?

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Thank you, Sha. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you. Thank you.

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Uh good morning. It's always a tough act to follow when there's a cute dog up there, but uh I have an announcement to make about an upcoming public meeting that Calrans is hosting. It'll be here held here in our board overflow room. It's a Wednesday, May 6th from 6 PM to 8:00 PM. And there will be a a virtual meeting option available. So, this will be a public meeting to um for CALR to provide updates on current and upcoming projects throughout Calaveris County. So if there's a project uh a specific project of concern that you may have questions on on any of the CALR related facilities, they will be available to answer questions on that and give presentations to the timing and scope of work of those projects. So I encourage anyone to come who may have a vested interest in those projects or any of your constituents who uh may have some concerns that have been raised. So again, it's Wednesday, May 6 from 6 to 8:00 p.m. here in our board overflow room right next door. Any questions? Thank you.

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Thank you, Micah. Further staff comments. We want to have staff online, would we? With that, we'll move on to our recognitions and acknowledgements. Item two, proclamation. Clerk of the board of supervisors adopt a proclamation recognizing May 8th, 2026 as provider appreciation day. Miss Indel, thank you. Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

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Whereas each week, more than 5,828 children ages 0 to13 in Calveris County rely on child care and afterchool child care programs so their parents can work. And whereas over 293 child care providers and early childhood educators in Calibaris County devote themselves every day to supporting young children during their most important developmental years. And whereas early childhood educators and child care providers nurture children's growth with guidance, compassion, and expertise, strengthening families, supporting working parents, and contributing to the vitality of our community. And whereas quality child care is a vital part of a strong community, enabling parents to work, supporting businesses with reliable workforce, and helping prepare young children for lifelong success. And whereas just as roads, utilities, and public safety systems from the physical framework of a community, child care serves as a critical part of its social and economic infrastructure. And whereas provider appreciation day offers a unique opportunity to recognize and commend child care providers for their dedication, compassion, and strong family values. And whereas Calver's County providers, the Calveris Childare Council, the Resource Connection, Valley Mountain Regional Center, Calaveris Unified School District, Calveris County Office of Education, the Calaveris Health and Human Services Agency, First Five Calaveris, Amidora College Connect, and other organizations across the county are working together to call attention to the importance of quality child care services for all children and families and to enhance the quality and

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availability of such services. And whereas Caligar County citizens are encouraged to recognize child care providers and early education staff for the important work they do every day in shaping the lives and futures of our children. I see at least one child care provider in the audience today and I see some folks from the resource connection. Do any of you have a public comment?

1:15:56 – 1:16:430

Good morning everyone. Um Mia Hus the resource connection. I just want to appreciate the child care providers in this community for just building up the most vulnerable, our children, um, and allowing our families to go to work every day and leave their children in hands of very good quality childcare providers in this community. And I just want to extend gratitude to you guys as well for um, this proclamation and showcasing that childcare providers are um, an essential staple in our community. And I couldn't thank them enough. I know it's hard with working hours um for our childcare providers to show up, but I know there are a lot of them watching and they deeply appreciate uh the support that you guys can provide with a proclamation like this. So, thank you.

1:16:49 – 1:17:430

Good morning. Wendy Alt here as a community member and I want to thank Debbie Aldridge. um during COVID when everything shut down and families were scrambling, she showed up and wasn't just child care. She was there for my kids and um couldn't have made it without her. So that impact doesn't fade and we thank you still today and teaching my kids the pledge of allegiance. So one day when they're here, they'll be able to say it with everyone else, too. And I'm Morgan Barry, also speaking as a community member. But just acknowledging Debbie and everything she does for my child for the last 5 years and still does to this day. I couldn't show up to work every day without her. And knowing my kid's safe every day is everything. I'm able to show up to work knowing my kid is okay. So, I just wanted to give her a big shot. Thank you,

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Stacy. Is there any online comment? We have no online public comment. Okay. Seeing no others, I'll bring it back to the board.

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Um I'm just going to make a quick comment. Um you know, the child providers within communities are much appreciated. Um some some of the assistance programs have been cut slightly. I'm not sure to which full degree, but they're, you know, they're they're gonna have to work harder to get the money to make ends meet. And part of that is um there isn't enough child providers in the communities, especially in some of the other rural more rural communities. And we also have to think about the behavioral health and of a lot of children because if you know some in some cases some ch children may be left at home um without the proper care and these child providers give them a safe place to stay with uh certain com you know help from the government in certain situations. So,

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thank you to everyone that has everything to do with that. Okay. Do I have a motion? And a second. I'll second. All those in favor?

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I. Now therefore, as the Calver County Board of Supervisors, we do hereby proclaim May 8th, 2026 Provider Appreciation Day in the County of Calver. modification of the metal. China.

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Ready. Ready. One, two, Thank you, Miss Handle. Nope. With that, we'll move on to item three. Um Stacy,

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item three, proclamation, economic and community development. Adopt a proclamation recognizing May 3rd through 9th, 2026 as National Small Business Week in Calaveris County. Mr. Tooffenelli. Thank you, Chair.

1:21:16 – 1:23:150

No, I this is um I'm very happy to read this. I was a small business owner myself for 30 something years. Um and um small businesses in Calaveris County is the backbone of the county. Um it provides um the essentials to um all the constituents that live here that uh so they have to go outside the county and it provides jobs for the people to stay in the county and be able to live here. So um they're very very uh important to this county. So I'm very happy to read this. Whereas since 1963, the president of the United States of America has proclaimed the month of May as National Small Business Month to celebrate small businesses for growing the economy, creating jobs, and fostering innovation. And whereas small businesses work hard every day to create 21st century jobs, drive innovation, increase America's global competitiveness, and significantly contribute to our quality of life and prosperity. And we're more and whereas more than two 32 million small businesses employ almost half of America's workforce and represent the heart and soul of countless communities. And whereas as part of the National Small Business Month, Calaveris County would like to take the opportunity to recognize local small businesses and outstanding entrepreneurs as the backbone of Calaveris County's econ economy. And whereas Calaver County wishes to continue supporting small businesses from local mom and pop shops to innovate startups, innovative startups as pillars of our communities and the engine of our local economy. And um that is there any board comments?

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I think you got it, Barry. I mean, over 70% of the working force and constituents in my district travel outside of the county for uh employment and uh these days with the cost of fuel that's becoming burden burdensome for many. Um so I'll follow you up on your words for small business and keeping the people closer to home when they get to work. Yes. Is there any public comments? No public comments. Not one single small business owner here that wants to come up and say something. There we go. Say that I support small business owners. Thank you.

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All right. Here we go. See it just Hi guys. I'm Dan Panel with Panel's Carpet Wine. We just celebrated our 50th anniversary

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and I just am always wake up every morning. I look out and think how blessed I am to live and work in this this county. Um, as you know, if you've been in business, it's all it's all about people. It's not about me. It's about the guys who who work for me who make us either look good or look bad. And I it's been 50 years. It's been a roller coaster. Um, and so I just again I thank you for all of you that have purchased from us over the years. We appreciate you. We appreciate uh actually we appreciate you supervisors for for running this county. Means a lot that somebody's here thinking about us doing this these long meetings. I can't imagine, you know, I'm a I'm a short meeting kind of guy. And I'd like to introduce my son-in-law Peter who has taken over the company 50 years and is enough. And I think all businesses are a roller coaster knowing that you just have you have to prepare for the down in when you're on the up. So yes, in order to stay in business, especially small businesses. So any other public comments in the room?

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Uh I'm Jay McBride. I have a small business and there's some friends here that uh also have small businesses that came today as well. It was actually really good to hear you speak uh say say what you said um about how the county wants to support small businesses. So when public comments I'll have something else to say. Any other in the room? Not do we have any online? We have no online public comment. All right, with that I will bring it back to the board open for either comments or a motion. I'll make a motion if everyone's good with that. I'll second that motion.

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Motion in a second. All in favor? I opposed. Passes 50. Read it.

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I will I will read it as I stand and clap. You guys think it was great that we got a 5-0 vote. Therefore, be it proclaimed that Calaveris County Board of Supervisors recognizes May 3rd through May 9th, 2026 as a National Small Business Week as a way to celebrate the contributions of small businesses to our local economy as well as our support of our communities. Passed and adopted by the board of supervisors of the county of Palveras, state of California, this 28th day of April, 2026. We have a local business owner that stood up and we had to come up and accept it.

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Come on. 50 years. Hey, come on. Sorry. I was telling Dan earlier. So, I've had 25 years and still

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knew. Thanks, guys. like the Clark.

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Thank you, Mr. We'll move on to item number four. Item four, proclamation. Clerk of the Board of Supervisors, adopt a proclamation recognizing May 3rd through May 9th, 2026 as wildfire awareness week in Calver County. Supervisor Fondor.

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Thank you, Chairman. Whereas wildfire is a natural part of Calver Countyy's environment, it can be devastating effects on our community. And whereas with more people living, working, and enjoying recreational activities in Calvary Countyy's wildland areas, there is increased risk of loss due to wildfire. And whereas the Calib Foothill Fire Safe Council seeks to preserve and enhance all of Calvary County's natural and man-made resources by mobilizing residents to make their homes and neighborhoods fires safe. And whereas the Calvary Foothill Fire Safe Council provides a framework for preparing for fire season. And whereas wildfire awareness week is an important opportunity for the Calves Foothill Fire Safe Council to educate Calvary County resident about ways to reduce the risk of wildfire. And whereas wildfire awareness week is an important time for residents to prepare for fire season by creating defensible space around their homes which will also protect the county of Carav. And with that I will open it up for any public comments. Anyone here from the fire? Hi.

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Hi. I'm Laura Balman and we are having a firewise event in Arnold on May 2nd. So everybody's invited to that. starts at 9:00 a.m. and over by 1. Thank you. Thank you. There any other public comment? There any online? We have no online public comment. Okay. And I'll bring it back to the board for any comment. Supervisory.

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Thank you. I just really would like to thank the council um supervisor Terry Woodro, Tim Tate, Tim Bondorf, um Bob Moody, Tom Bale, and Steve Kofka for all the work that they do with the council. And uh to thank Chief Fullerton who brought us the proclamation.

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Okay, there any item? I would also like to thank the fires safe council as well as resource conservation district um and all of our residents that are proactive in this area. We had an event in West Point on Saturday, a firewise meeting where the council came, RCD, lots of community members. Um there's a lot of movement on being more fires safe and Susan was there with PAV and it was recorded so that's available to watch through our local channel as well. Chairman,

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uh just also we'll throw in Calire and and their help with uh with uh fuel mitigation. Uh we could go down a list of local fire departments and the steps that like you brought up RCD with they uh they're going to take or they're taking to maintain those fire breaks. Um so that because they typically grow back and we are looking at another devastating fire later possibility. So there any other uh board comment? If not is there a motion? Move by supervisor he second by supervisor endall. All those in favor

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I I passes on five. Now therefore, be it proclaimed, the Calib County Board of Supervisors does hereby proclaim May 3rd through the 9th, 2026 as wildfire awareness week in Calvary County. Thank you.

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I don't think there's anyone here. She say that he was going to try and send somebody. He might not be available. Get this to the We'll get this to the council. Thank you,

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D. You don't want a picture of just that and Amanda's in. It's okay. Okay.

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Okay. With that, we'll move on to general public comment. Any item of interest to the board that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board and is not posted on the consent or regular agendas may be addressed during the public comment period. California law prohibits the board from taking action on any matter which is not posted on the agenda unless it is determined to be an emergency by the board of supervisors. If public comment is completed before the 30 minute allotted time period, the board may immediately move to the next order of business. If public comment is not completed during the allotted time period, it will be continued as the last item of business in order to provide an opportunity for the remainder of comments to be heard. I'll be first. Okay, I'll get the line going. Um Laura Balman here. Um I'm representing two well already three but um right along the firewise that I already mentioned we're doing the May 2nd community event. Um

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I'm sorry. Hold one second. Start mic. Oh shoot. Yeah. I apologize for that.

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Thank you. Uh yeah right. Really quickly though. There we go. Okay, I can talk. Okay. Um, for the American Red Cross, we're doing a sound the alarm event and that is going to be done May 23rd in Angel's Camp as well as Murphy's. And what we do is go out to the community, wear our little t-shirt, and we uh install smoke alarms and we check the smoke alarms in everybody's house. And what? Oh, I'm sorry. Um, so anybody can get their alarm check if they want to just contact me. And I put my phone number up there. 650-5888620. And uh we have saved we've installed over 2,000 in Calaveris County and Amador and um not TWI just Amador and Calveras and we've saved 2600 lives so far nationwide by fire alarms working in those homes. And then my last t is with the Cal Bears County Garden Club. We have um issued with going to issue in the next couple weeks three $3,000 scholarships to uh one to Brett two to Bret Hart and one Calvary High School students. So we're really proud of that. So and that's it for me. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good morning. My name is Christopher Butner, publisher of Calaveriswatchdog.com. With the Calaveris County District 3 supervisor election having the incumbent running unopposed, the outcome is certain that Martin Huberty will be reelected. Far less certain is that Martin Huberty will still be here in office by January 2027 for the beginning of his second term as the facts of his criminal complaint for fraudulent misrepresentation and misuse of public funds as well as other allegations become more extensively investigated. Likewise, the sworn complaint pending with the California Fair Political Practices Commission Enforcement Division for the same set of allegations. And then there's Martin's documented involvement with Jeffrey Epstein on behalf of Sarah Ferguson that every candidate for Calaveris County Office is strongly advised to publicly address, but that's for another day. For today, my primary topic for the remainder of my time here is the Calaveris County District 5 Supervisor election. that is as it is the only one of two district supervisor contests that has an uncertain outcome on June 2nd with three candidates running. Logically, the winner of the contest should be an easy and clear choice for the voters. One of the candidates, former District 5 Supervisor Clyde Clap, is running to reclaim a seat he won by recall election in 2016 and then ousted two years later in 2018 by current two-term incumbent Ben Stopper. So, what has Clyde Clap been up to in the intervening years? Well, in 2024, a civil court judge of the Calaver's County Superior Court ruled against Clap in a lawsuit that cited evidence in the case establishing Clap had likely committed elder abuse against the now deceased plaintiff during their real estate partnership. Quoting directly from the judgment after court trial from case 16 CV41649, defendant breached his fiduciary duties towards plaintiffs. Defendants intentional and repeated violations of his fiduciary duties towards plaintiffs

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were abusive within the meaning of the Elder Abuse Act. One other notable excerpt from the judgment referring to the elderly victim. The evidence has established he degenerated both physically and mentally by the time Clyde's most egregious violations occurred. Seriously, Clyde Clap, just go away. You have no business being anywhere near Calaveris County's finances. Your conduct has been declared as predatory by the evidence. Just go away now. Now to you, Bentopper. There were 12 probable cause findings against you by the FPPC. Should the FPPPC enforcement division levy sub substantial fines upon district 5 supervisor stopper while somehow he wins re-election, district 5 citizens will be left with a financially and ethically compromised supervisors whose improprieties will challenge his ability to meet his financial obligations. According to credible sources, Stoppper was legitimately terminated with cause from his CCWD employment for falsification of records. He has been credibly alleged to have lived outside of District 5, leaving him open to other FPPPC investigations. My name is Christopher Butner, publisher of Calaverisw Watchdog.com.

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Any further public comment? Thank you, sir. I'm going to read this.

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No problem. Ah. Uh, good morning, Chair Benjamin Stopper, and members of the board. My name is Jay McBride, and I'm a resident here in Calaveris County. Thank you for your time today. I'm here to speak about the opportunity for Calaveris County to better support small-scale homebased food producers in a way that is both safe and accessible. Right now, there's a lot of limitation around what people can legally prepare and sell from their homes. At the same time, there is clearly demand in our community for locally made food, meals, and products that are prepared by people we know and trust. Many small producers would like the opportunity to serve food directly from what they grow or create true farm to fork or home to consumer. But under current limitations, that's often not possible. Recently, situations like complaints against small producers create uncertainty and discourage people from participating at all. California already has a framework for this. It's called microenterprise home kitchen operation or MIGO. This model allows individuals to prepare and sell meals directly from their home kitchens under a permitted regulated system. It's designed specifically for smallcale community-based food businesses, something that fits counties like ours very well. I'm not here to argue against health and safety standards. Miko provides a structure for oversight while still allowing flexibility and access for small operators. At the end of the day, these are neighbor-to- neighbor transactions and people should have the ability to make informed choices about the food they purchase. There's also a clear economic benefit allowing MIGO operations creates new small businesses, generates permit and licensing revenue, and keeps more money circulating within the local economy. It lowers the barrier to entry for entrepreneurs, creates pathways towards larger, fully permitted food businesses over time. This is a way to support economic growth at a very local level without requiring major infrastructure or investment from the county. I'd like

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to ask the board to explore adopting and implementing the AMO model here in Calaveris County and to consider how similar approaches like temporary food facility style allowances could support homebased food service in a responsible way. I would also like to encourage the formation of a local food committee to help guide that process with input from the community. I'd be interested in being part of that effort. If you were to ask people who know me, they would tell you I genuinely care about this community and its future. I want to help to find practical solutions that respect both safety and individual choice. This is an opportunity for Calaveris County to support small business, increase local food access, strengthen community connections, and generate local economic activity, all within a structured and responsible framework. Thank you. I appreciate your time,

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Mr. McBride. Thank you for your constructive comment. Any further public comment? Anything online? We have no online public comment.

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All right, we'll bring it to the consent agenda. Um, any board members like to pull any items off the consent agenda? I'm going to go ahead and uh just for some comments, pull items 12 and 13. Anybody from from the uh public like to pull any items or staff members like to pull any items? Anybody online? We have no online requests.

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All right. I'll entertain a motion on the remainder. I'll move a move by Miss Fondorf. Uh second by Mr. Hovery. All those in favor I passes on five vote of the board. We'll bring it back to uh 12 and 13. And if anybody doesn't we can combine those. Um shall I read them out? Yes. Yeah, we can combine those if no one has any link to that.

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Okay. So item 12 is an agreement behavioral health authorized theoreter to execute agreement 106252579 with elite family systems inc for the provision of as needed specialty mental health services in amount not exceed 133,000 for the period of November 14th 2025 through June 30th 2027. And then item 13 agreement behavioral health authorized for chair to execute amendment one to agreement 10622532 locomtenants.com for the provision of specialty mental health services for the period of July 1, 2025 through June 30th 2026 increasing the contract amount by $150,000 for a total not to exceed amount of $900,000.

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Wendy, I pulled these. Could you explain everyone what these services and who who they provide services to? Yes. Uh Wendy Al Calvary County Behavioral Health Director. Um the first one for Elite Family Systems. This is a placement for a um client that is also with the child welfare system. One that um needed placement and it's a contract that we didn't have in place yet. So it is a um a specialty

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place for an individual that needed um assistance that we cannot provide within the county. And the second one is for our psychiatrist for um another contracted provider that we have to use um for children and adult.

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Excellent. Um, and just, you know, I I only brought this up to make people aware that, you know, the services that are provided to the younger generations and everything. It kind of goes in hand with uh, you know, daycare providers and everything. You know, it's takes the whole community to uh, bring our children up and give her the best help we can. So, does anybody else have any questions from the board? I'm so I don't have any protests to this or Yeah. No, no questions. I just really wanted to thank Wendy and the behavioral health team. I lucky enough to sit on that word and and it's amazing work. So, thank you.

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Thank you. And uh anybody from the public have any comments? Marcos? Nothing. All right. He's always a thumbs up. With that, I'll bring it back to the board. Consider a motion. I'll move for for both 12 and 13. I'll second. All those in favor?

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Those opposed? Passes on 50. Vote of the board. We had a motion by Mr. Hubby, second by Mr. Tooffen. And with that, see, we haven't hit quite 10:00 yet, so we can go and start with item 18 if staff's okay with that. I think I'll wait till 10 o'clock for a break. Oh, right now. Okay. Usually you say power through. Okay. Hey, Gary's in charge. We're going to take No,

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I'll take the suggestion. We're going to take like a five minute. Let's make it a 10-minute break for staff. Okay. And then uh we'll go from there. Okay.

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We got thumbs up.

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Let's start out with item 18 on the regular agenda if you will. Item 18, action item, administrative office, affirm prior board direction by supporting the debt advisory committee's recommendation to proceed with I bank infrastructure state revolving fund program financing at a fixed 4.39% interest rate and direct staff to finalize and bring back the required financing agreements for board consideration. So, good morning, Cher, members of the board. As you're aware, I brought an item um requesting permission to move forward with negotiating with IBank a few weeks ago. However, during that discussion, some ex um some concerns were expressed about the financing. So, we did indicate that we would um go back to the debt financing committee to explore other options. So, I want to talk a little bit about that today. In March of 2026, the board authorized me to begin negotiations with IBank for financing of the new animal services facility. The project is a 10,555 square foot facility located in San Andreas designed to modernize and expend expand our animal care capacity. Shortly after that meeting, the debt advisory committee met to evaluate all viable financing options. Today's presentation summarizes those options and the committee's findings. The committee evaluated three primary financing paths. Option one is the IBANK ISRF program offering a fixed interest rate of 4.39%. Option two is a public bond sale which would rely on market interest rates and carry higher issuance costs. Option three is a pay as yougo cash strategy which avoids debt but delays the project

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significantly. Each option has different implications for cost, timing, and risk. Yeah, Stacy has it up. Um, here is a highle comparison of the three options. I bank financing offers stability, a fixed rate, lower risk, and the ability to start construction immediately. Public sale financing exposes us to market volatility and higher issuance costs. Paying cash avoids debt but delays the construction which ultimately increases total cost due to construction inflation. This matrix guided the committee's recommendation.

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Thank you. I'm not finished. Okay. Yeah. This is a long long pause killing me. I'm trying to build um suspense. Oh,

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the I bank option. The I bank option provides a fixed 4 point. This is the first first recommend. The first option is the ibank financing which is the recommended option even by the debt advisory committee. The ibank option provides a 4.39% rate with a 90-day lock giving a certainty during the approval process. Issuance costs are significantly lower between 147,500 and 170. I bank has already approved the project which means we can move forward quickly. Starting immediately helps us avoid construction cost escalation which is a major factor in long-term affordability. The only limitation is no prepayment for the first 10 years. But overall this option is the most predictable and costeffective. Um so for the second was a public market financing and this is option two. Um we modeled this at rates between 3.82% and 4.08% but these rates are not guaranteed. Issuance costs are much higher between 233,000 and 278,000. Market volatility is a major concern. Recent geopolitical events such as the Iran conflict have caused significant rate fluctuations. Pricing is not locked until the day of the sale, which adds a lot of uncertainty to this process. Overall, this option is less predictable and carries more financial risk. The third option was the cashonly approach. Um, the cash only approach avoids debt entirely, which is appealing at first glance. However, it requires delaying the project until full funding is saved. construction costs are escalating at more than 4% per year. We did include in your packet uh California escalation um estimates over the last five years and um also federal

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escalation costs which were much higher than 4% but for our purposes we used a 4% rate as the example. Over 15 years the project cost would rise from 13 million to more than 23 million. This makes the cash option the most expensive overall despite having no interest expense. So in summary, after reviewing these options, the debt advisory committee committee unanimously recommends option one, ibank financing. It minimizes financial risk, provides predictable retayment terms, and allows the project to begin immediately. Most importantly, it avoids the significant cost escalation associated with delaying construction. When all factors are considered, I bank financing results in the lowest total cost. So today for your consideration, um we are asking the board to affirm our direction to proceed with ibank financing and bring that back to the board for final consideration. But the board could also direct staff to prepare for a public market financing understanding the higher risk and cost. The board could also choose to delay the project, choosing a cash-only approach, which is the most expensive over time due to inflation. And finally, the board may choose to just discontinue the project entirely. Staff is recommending option one. And I'm happy to answer any questions about the financing options and the committee's analysis. We also have um Mr. sessions and the audience from the auditor controllers's office um who was a part of these discussions.

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Thank you. Would that uh would you I'll bring it to I'll let the board have some some comments first and then we'll go to public comment. Um any questions to start? No. Mr. Tooffen. Um before we go to public comment, Lisa, can you come up and talk a little bit about the current conditions that we have? Yes. At the shelter, you sent an email out yesterday that

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Yes. Um so the current conditions um of the shelter are beyond poor. You know, we have a poor drainage system currently and this is primarily one of the reasons that read that led to the parvo outbreak because uh the parvo of course is contracted through uh the delivery of fluids. Every time the staff go in to clean the shelter, everything is washed down. So it goes to the next, you know, the next kennel, the next kennel, the next kennel. We think uh because we had the the dogs that um we obtained from um up the hill um 10 dogs, three of which were the positive parbo dogs were up in at the the higher level kennels. So everything got washed down. Um our equipment is old. Uh our infrastructure is old. U we have staff that are just, you know, working day in and day out. You know, the public doesn't realize that we're open seven days a week. uh which means that we have to um apply critical measures almost every day. Um we've gone through as far as like our uh equipment and everything else. Um it frequently breaks down. Right now we're at 187% capacity with 43 dogs. Um we have puppies and mamas that are in old cages and kennels. We have been able to get some grant funding which has been a a godsend um for us u through the natural resources connection and to update our kennels. Um but we still have the old kennels u which lead to sometimes we have aggressive dogs. We've had dogs that um have had their tails bitten off because the kennels and the infrastructure is so old it cannot prevent um dogs from either looking at each other getting aggressive and or anything else. Um but yes, the email that I sent out yesterday uh just highlights uh the necessity for a new

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shelter and it's critical um that we don't do this now. We cannot continue to um maintain this infrastructure. We have that poor drainage system on top of a secure a lot of times we do take in animals from the jail when they get housed or u when our citizens um unfortunately go to uh go to jail. Um we have had breakins, multiple breakins um of our um shelter to get those animals out which creates an additional expense because we're not that secure. Um so our volunteers, which we couldn't do without, you know, our our focus, our partners that support us, um sometimes have to pick up, you know, that tab, you know, for us because we certainly can't do that. Um, so we desperately need a new shelter. Uh, not only for to benefit um, our staff, but most of all our animals, you know. Um, right now we have animals that are doubled up, tripled up because we don't have enough space for all of them. Um, and we don't turn any we don't turn animals away. U, we will do our best to take care of them. We've had to make some hard decisions um, with this Parvo outbreak. Um, as I stated before, you know, we don't um have the equipment or the resources to do that right now to maintain good shelter. There's best management practices for all shelter activity and all shelter operations and we are barely holding on um with the the support that we have. Of course, you know, the board has always supported us, our community has supported us, but right now we are above and beyond um our limitations um and we're just barely holding on. Um so uh with that uh I will take any questions from the board. If there's any specific questions regarding our infrastructure, regarding our operations, regarding our policy and our protocol, uh which we have been diligently working on. We've instituted our volunteer manual, our

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foster policy, and a lot of programs that um have benefited our community, especially our animals. Um and we currently work with a lot of rescues and other organizations to get as many animals out as we can. Thank Thank you, Lisa. Um I've witnessed it personally up there a few times uh going over my daughter over the years. Um but I'll hand it over to Gary. Did you have any further questions? Well, yeah. I just wanted to point out that um the situation that we have right now. Yes. Um we don't you have a parvo outbreak, but you don't have the ability to isolate an animal that may have it. Correct. You have double and triple. Yes.

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In the cages. So it's very difficult to try and prevent that and and that's just the paro right now in the future if we don't do something it is can continue to happen and you don't have an influx like you said you had two pregnant dogs and you have puppies and increase it three yeah three it's going to increase um it just the risk of it all just imploding on itself with the parlo thing um is is very saddening as I wrote to you

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yes I appreciate that um Right now, um, as I mentioned before, we have one room. We don't even have isolation and quarantine. You know, we should have a a lot of, um, a lot of times people don't realize building a new animous shelter is like building a hospital. We have to have all those protocols in place, stainless steel. Right now, we're dealing with cement and we're dealing with old equipment, you know, because um, we haven't we don't have the resources to do that. Um, so we beg and we borrow. We don't steal, but we have a lot of help. We have a lot of help from our community and from our stakeholders and from, you know, the state because we do beg for the grants. As a matter of fact, I was just able to extend a grant. But back to the isolation and the quarantine. Um, I did mention that mama and her puppies. Um, we have been able to separate them because they're in a different location. Um, and we've been able to right now we're working methodically u based on risk, right? who's but who has been exposed and keeping them separated. But it's not it's it's it's not we're we're set up for failure right now.

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The the new design though includes quarantine area and that's why saying it's a hospital. Yes. It acts like a hospital so that they can go in there and the reason why I asked you earlier also about how parvos contracted. A lot of dogs get their diseases from their paws. Yes. So when you drain anything, they're picking up whatever's in that.

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And that drainage system, as I said before, you know, that's why, you know, there it's contracted through fulites, through bowls that are shared, you know, through the drainage system, which is right in front of the canals right now. Well, that's not efficient or effective. And right now, we have a problem with the drains backing up u because we were getting clogs in the main drain through the infrastructure through our sanitary sewer. So, we implemented a a new system and thank goodness buildings and grounds has been really gracious and helping us out by clearing those drains. Um, but it it's it's time. U we're we're in desperate we're in desperate need and what I worry about is our staff. You know, our staff I I was just talking to a couple of them and and it their hearts are on their sleeves. you know, this is animal animal care in and of itself is wearing hearts on your sleeve, you know, and and it's something that um it's hard to maintain, you know, I get kind of anxious thinking about it, but u for our staff, they're the ones I worry about, you know, because they every day, you know, this happened over the weekend. Um and it was all hands on deck, you know, uh not that we actually had to be there, but it's it's a group effort, you know, because people need to make decisions. Um, and it's critical when we make those and we make sure that we make the right decisions based on shelter management practices and some of those decisions are hard decisions. You know, we had u one dog um and it's it's just an old structure. The cement is pitted. So when you have pitted cement, bacteria, everything else forms and is collected in there like both of you were talking about the paws that's delivered from one side to the other and to the outside. So that's currently why we're in lockdown. Right now we only um have fully vaccinated uh six to 10 dogs that are fully vaccinated out out of 43 uh which means that they're um at that lower

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risk, but that's only 10 out of 43. The others are low to moderate to high risk because we vaccinate each animal as they come into the shelter. Um getting back um to our separate cave and the hospital you were talking about, it's it's a hospital. Building a shelter is a hospital. Um you have to maintain um sanitation, you know, you have to have u stainless steel um cages, you have to have u acoustics, you know, so I I don't know how many people visit our campus that early in the morning the dogs get really excited because they know the volunteers are coming to walk them. Well, just the mornings.

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Yes. And it's not just the mornings. And you know, I pay attention too because I'm over in building E and when I hear that, you know, I I zip up there because if it's during a time, you know, then then I know that something's going on. Um, but that happens all the time with the new shelter and best management practices. You don't hear that because they're it's engineered and designed to address those acoustics to keep the dogs calm. Yes. You and Yeah. and and healthy because that much noise in a certain area for animals not just you know loud like you said call they stress oh yeah it stresses them out

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we have had um because of the the setup of the current kennel situation right now we have dogs that go kennel crazy you know and and we've had them for a long time we um try to um send out messages and adoption events and we have different programs specifically to try to get our animals out to any any way in which way we can. Um, but the staff are the ones that deserve to be acknowledged. They are the ones that are boots on the ground, our volunteers, our focus members, our stakeholders. Um, they are the ones that are dealing with this. And um, we just ask uh that uh you greatly consider this ask and would make a huge difference not only for our animals but for our community. and our staff

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if if everyone's good for the moment because I'll bring it back to the board. Should we do public comment? And thank you, Lisa. We'll have you back in May. Okay. Public comment. Anybody in the audience? If you feel obliged, oblige yourself. I mean, this has been going on a long time. Yes. And the the grand jury has brought it up and something really needs to be done. So, get going.

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Thank you. Thank you, Stacy. Is there anything online? We have no online public comment.

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Okay, I'll bring it back to the board. Um, I'll I'll work on keeping myself brief. Good luck because Lisa, I hear you. Um, we just had the public comment that sings to my heart. I'm generally hesitant as a public entity to take on debt. But in this scenario, we have this scenario of a 15-year that was put up earlier and the cost going up about 10 $10 million for the same project.

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I'm going to say that cost has gone up $10 million since at the very least since they started to 13 million. I I can, you know, when they first start talking about this, they might have got it done for 1.5. Um, but I I really have to go back and do some studying that I'm not going to do right now. The point being is, you know, um, watching other entities and and other public uh, entities, a lot of times the can gets kicked for infrastructure and capital improvements. And these costs have gone up so extravagantly just in the last five years and to the point where, you know, some some of those realizations don't seem foreseeable and the public's losing from them. Lisa's clearly explained health, safety, capacity issues, these are real. and and you know I as when I get elected as a board member I can't say I wasn't responsible for not doing that I became a part of the body of the board so I take responsibility for the decisions of the people that are here before me so at this point yes the grand jury has come up yes there are laws by the state to help to take care of these animals to a certain level if we don't start showing movement now to take care of these issues for the animals number one because it's the right thing to do for the animals and and the people and the community and not letting an outbreak get out from a parvo get out from the the animal

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shelter but for the uh safety of our public funds because one day the state's going like you had every opportunity and we warned you how many times and we're going to see fines that are going to exacerbate the cost of the infrastructure. So, you know, I think that pretty much says that pretty much says what I have to say. I'll leave it at that.

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I have a question for Teresa on her presentation. Um if we go with I bank your recommendation it says immediate start does that mean um when you bring this back and we agree to it you'll start the next day construction

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not actual construction the next day we would go out for construction manager and then we would go out for RFP for the actual construction of the facility um we've had construction managers for our other projects because they help um us craft those bid bid documents so that we make sure that we have very tight bid documents so that we're not um faced with surprises during construction. Um which is the goal, but it would mean that we would start the process as soon as we receive funding. We would start the process of hiring a construction manager, getting bid documents, going out to bid. It would still take at least another 18 months to two years after that before we would see a brand new facility. before solution.

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Correct. So, so um we have estimates of construction time and the we had we had estimates of the costs and in those estimates was there an estimate of construction time. Is that you're saying 18 months to two years? So, I have um Jamie Andrea here who has been working with our consultant on this and I think she's saying we do not have an estimated construction time right now.

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So, we're considering 8% on two years at 4% a year on cost. Well, so the reality is that once you once you go out to bid, then you have what the contractors estimated their car costs are, barring um huge changes during construction, which is what we're trying to avoid by having a construction manager. Um we also have some contingency built into the costs that we're estimating right now um for things that are unforeseeable. So,

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um, the RFP, um, hasn't been put together yet. No, the RFP is not put together yet. Sometimes you can put dates in there as a requirements for that RFP. Correct. So, it doesn't run over or doesn't. So, okay. I don't have any questions and I'm ready to move it with staff recommendation. I have a motion by Miss Bondorf.

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I want to quote Miss Miss Bowman and say let's get going. I'll second. We have a second by Mr. Liberty. All those in favor. Yay. passes on a 50 vote. Don't clap yet. We have two years to see who it and staff, I just want to sorry, chairman staff, thank you for all your hard work on this and the public that have come time and time again um to participate in this. Um that did not go unnoticed by the board. So

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I ve very very much so and I think I think that there's something we I would like the public also to remember. Um there's a lot of people that have you know anything they can do to help and everything these costs are going to debt. So if you're going to have any fundraisers for the animals in the animal shelter so we can pay that debt off sooner so that we aren't paying interest with your tax dollars. It would be a great thing to do if you have the opportunity. We appreciate it as long as all the citizens and taxpayers of Calverse County.

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So, I just have one more thing to say. I'd like to remind the board that this um we will be bringing the I bank agreement forward for final approvement. So, we're not done yet. I just want to make sure the public's aware that that agreement still has to come forward and it still has to have terms and conditions to which the board feels comfortable agreeing to. So, um that'll be coming in the future. Yeah. And we've been known to go to 4 to one on issues like that, but we'll see how it goes. Lisa, would you like something short to say? Short? Yes. All right. Hey, we love it.

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Thank you, board. And thank you, Council Teresa. And I know that Jamie and Denise put a lot of work into it and uh I just I'm very grateful for this um finding and this ruling and very much appreciated and I can't wait to share it with our staff. U this is always a positive thing during probably one of the most monumental stress stressful things that we have done since I've I've been in this position for almost like seven years. So, um, it puts a little light on something that is very dreary right now. So, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your work, Lisa.

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And thank you to all the staff top to bottom in every department that's had their hands in this, including Mr. Sessions and the auditor's office, administration, and everything else because it it takes the whole team with a community backing to get something like this done. So, and the volunteer remember. All right, we ready for the next item? All right, the ladies have said it, Stacy.

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Item 19, action item, economic and community development one, review staff recommendations and select recipients to receive regional early action planning 2.0 O grant subawwards totaling 1,541,566.31 for promoting construction of housing that is consistent with the REAB 2.0 program goals and two authorized the county executive officer to execute subgrant agreements with the board's selected recipients. our esteemed colleagues from the planning department, economic community.

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Good morning, chairs stopper, honorable board, Kathy Galino, economic and community development. And before you today is uh our second recruitment for the reap 2.0 grant that the county received back in 2024. Um, we've got four applicants that responded to the notice of funding availability and today before you our staff's recommendation based on the rankings of those applications uh from highest to lowest we have um Stannis Regional Housing Authority which is now Foothills um limited partnership. We've got Stannis we've got uh Habitat for Humanity. We've got the Reed Mandandalay project. These are all in your packet and I'm sure you've reviewed them thoroughly. Um, as well as Calaver's public utility district. So, um, before you today are the is this item and we also have the applicants here in the studio or in the audience to discuss the project. So, I know that there's probably lots of questions and I'm here to answer them and Brett's here to back me up. I I I have a question and I think it more is to Micah. Um on number two here for the Crisis Public Utility District requesting $880,000 for replacing 800 linear feet of water line from Pulk Street to Main Street to Highway 49. Um we have a project coming up and I know this is just outside of it but are we planning on paving Main Street somewhere? I I thought we had that project of repaving Main Street when when St. Charles is being redone by

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Calrans. They were going to do part of it. So, my concern is that they're going to we're going to pave it and then they're going to come back at some time to tear it up to replace this pipeline that obviously they're asking for and needs to be replaced. Um, is that part of uplifting this because we've graded these on on from one to four and I'm just wondering if that was part of what was interpreted when we were grading these projects. Um, so if you could speak on that and my

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Yeah, public works doesn't have any plans in our capital improvement program to pave Main Street. I know that Calrans is doing their complete streets project on St. on St. Charles and the scope of that work could include some potential paving on Main Street, but I don't think it's going to incorporate this entire segment. So, I think it would be appropriate to um require the development to be responsible for some of that. Okay. Because I thought for some reason that when Cal did that project that they were going to pave it at least down to um Court Street or I'm not aware of that.

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Okay. All right. That was my question. I clarified it. Thank you. I just got to say I think you were at the forum when I was running the first time in 2018 when I brought up that underground for water and and electrical utilities is $1,000 a foot. That's reality. I don't I think it might cost a little more than that. Sorry. That's just a fact. Anything else, Mr. Top? That was my only question on that item right now. Mr. Hovery, sorry. For now. Okay, ladies.

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Chair, I'd like to hear from the applicants perhaps. That's abs. Absolutely. And then we'll uh work through public comment. I'll bring it back to the board. Shall we start with applicants first? Yeah. Any applicants would like to speak?

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Good morning, supervisors. Thank you for having us here. And I actually want to kind of start this with a thank you to staff and also to you for the fact that we have competition for these funds. I think is huge because we need more improvement to this county in lots of different forms. And so I think that's actually pretty exciting. Um although I I do hope that you have a leaning towards me. Of course I'll be selfish there. But um Habitat

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for Habitat. Yes. So sorry Morgan Gotch with Habitat for Humanity Calaveris. I will introduce myself um just to give you a little background and um perspective on on our positioning for this application. Habitat serves across this entire county serving all the way from Vilsy Wilsyville. Sorry, you're my district supervisor, too, man. Woohoo Copper. Um, we represent your constituents in every form, whether it's through actual home builds that we've done over our 30-year course of being open here in this county or the hundreds of critical home repairs that we do um across this county, including just wrapping up this last week with someone um here in San Andreas that was especially meaningful to us because not only were they a successful homeowner with us, one of our first homes that paid off their mortgage, but also was um a roofer repair that we did for them recently. So, uh we feel very uh deeply connected to our homeowners and our home uh repair recipients. We all understand how difficult it is to build in California. It's expensive. It's um a lot of regulations and um we just heard about the animal shelter and I feel that deep in my core because building brings a copious amount of challenges that we have. overcoming infrastructure hurdles. That's a whole another ballgame that I now personally can attest that I've been through. And um Eureka Oaks has already done that work. While Eureka Oaks is located in the city of Angel's camp, its impact is countywide. Our homeowners are coming from across Calaveris County and this develop creates development creates access to home ownership for families who are currently priced out regardless of where they live today.

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So to give you an example of that with an approximate median households price of $450,000 in our county, that's last I checked we were about that. and current interest rates. We have um households earning 80% of AMI at our development. So I want to highlight that that this development is for lowincome and workforce housing specifically. So looking at 80% of the area median income, that's approximately $80,000 a year total household income. Realistically, at this price, they cannot afford home ownership in this county. They can't. So, when you look at teacher salaries, when you look at our firefighter salaries, and when you look at retail and government, all of those um have challenges. Am I out?

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So, because we've asked you to speak on behalf of your project, the timer doesn't apply. It's only for public comment. Okay. Oh, thanks.

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Jeez. Okay. Eureka Oaks in Angel's Camp is historic. So, it is the largest Habitat for Humanity development in this entire state. With that comes um visibility at already the state and federal level for this project, which we've been fielding. But what sets Eureka Oaks apart and why I think um that you should highlight this comment um for this specific agenda item is because of the project readiness. That's especially important. The infrastructure of this project is complete. The financing we have for this project is secured. Partnerships we have are in place. and the vertical construction. We're not speculating for years from now. This is literally weeks away from starting our first home builds. So, I want to put that into perspective. This isn't a future hopeful project. This is a project delivering homes this year. I want to be clear what this funding is for. So, our request is for eligible infrastructure costs, specifically utility hookup fees and impact fees. These are the required costs that must be paid before homes can be completed. The funding isn't sitting. It moves directly into construction and accelerates the delivery of homes. We've worked really hard for the past uh year and a half to layer funding and bring this project to this point with partnerships at the state level, city level, um through private funding and donors. This funding doesn't determine whether the project happens. Just to clarify, reap 2.0. It doesn't determine whether it happens. It determines how fast we can do it and how fast we can start providing homes to your constituents. This project is also supported by a

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strong network of local businesses, some of whom are here today. Um we're very grateful to them representing um who will be a part of the vertical construction. This keeps investments, jobs, and opportunity here local. As an organization, I mentioned that we've built 20 homes, done hundreds of critical home repairs, and we've had families, just to give you a process of where we're at in that timeline, we had two different homeowner orientations, welcoming 18 families across the county um to be a part of it. And then also we have eight that just underwent lending and are ready for homes right now. So um advancing Eureka Oaks allows us to move forward into our next development into the unincorporated part of Calaveris County, expanding the impact even further. So we respectfully ask that you direct staff to revisit the READ 2.0 no awardee rankings with consideration given to project readiness, ability to deploy funds immediately and overall impact to housing production in Calaveris County. We've done the hard work to get here. We're ready to build. We're ready to get stuff done and we're ready to put these funds to work immediately for the families of Calvary County. Thank you for your time, your extra time and consideration.

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Thank Thank you. We have uh Stannislaw CPU. I could go down the list. Uh sir,

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hi. I'm Jim Cruz, CEO of Stannis uh regional housing authorities. So, thank you for considering us on this project. I know we've been here before and I've had some of my other staff here. Um just wanted to give you a brief history that we purchased that original Foothill Terrace property in 2017, October of 2017. Um we were working towards that with the city planning department. We had a great subdivision uh for the one-bedroom units that we were looking at. Of course, we were hit with COVID. Um at that time, the intention was to build the the units out and use them for rental properties, affordable rentals. As we know, the construction costs went from about 4.5 million up to about 8 million after COVID. So, the only path forward that we could find was doing some affordable home ownership units. Uh I know one of the concerns at the last board meeting that I heard was that we were look really looking for two-bedroom units. Um, we've incorporated some of those into the new design. We're going to incorporate as many as we can onto that site without triggering a re-review and opening back up of the whole plan review process by using modular units. So, I wanted to kind of assure you that we we understand um what the concerns are of the community and what you're looking for. Um, but this was really the only path forward for that property. We've invested three or four iterations of the design. um hundreds of thousands of dollars in architecture fees and and uh some of the infrastructure work as well. So um we appreciate you taking a look at that. We are ready to move. Um we've got the contractor in place as we were uh when we were originally awarded the contractor. So within 30 days they're ready to start moving and start construction on the project. Um if the full award amount that uh was um I guess proposed is not received, we may have to limit the number of units that we could do or we have to consider that perhaps we wouldn't be able to build the development at all. I know there was also a question about um there was uh the county was looking to purchase the property. We're certainly willing to have those discussions as well and see

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you know we'd like to get back what we put into the property uh and that would be included in that. But um I just want to kind of let you know a little bit about the history. We're trying to bring some affordable housing into the community. We understand we've been working with state and federal officials about bringing some additional funds into our especially our rural counties that are underserved. So we've had a number of meetings with them also about setting some set aides on the state side for some of these different types of funding. Um and and hopefully with Secretary Moss taking over the new housing and homeless division. uh they're they're really interested in in hearing what we have to say about that and doing some set aides for these rural staff move everything over to the the larger cities and demographic areas. Um but with that I'm I'm here for any questions any other questions that might

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I'm I'm going to go ahead and let each uh okay applicant go go through if they if they'd like and then we can round back out and uh we could work through questions from the board as we're moving forward. Okay, great. Thank you. if if the board is all right. All right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Ma'am.

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Hi, I'm Margaret Reid and I am the president of George Reed Construction. And you may know we're a heavy civil construction company. We do work for Calrans and we build infrastructure. We build subdivision infrastructure. That's what we do. We have a long history of that. And um we also have a business here in San Andreas. It's um 7-Eleven materials. Um Reed Manderlay is part of the Reed family companies just like 7-Eleven. So we have a business on Pstation Road. We built the George Reed Industrial Park in Pool Station Road and I'm very proud of how we've maintained it and so that's what we do. I think that very clearly this funding is for the kind of work that we do. Um so I have a little bit of a well let me start. Reed Family Companies has a tagline and it says caring for our people first, then our customers, our community and environment. And that's how we are. It's it's a family business. My three children are in the business as well. And my son would be the project manager for this project. Um we started our business in San Andreas with um George Reid, who is my father, my my husband's um grandfather, and my father-in-law Wendel Reid. and he got together and they purchased Neielson Readymix company. So that ReadyMix batch plant was on Neielson Road and um later when we built the industrial park and we moved the plant to a better site for that business, my father-in-law Wendell, who I was very close to, he wanted to develop that property. So he put a lot of effort into it and he wanted to do it while we're in the community. He um just like me sees that we have employees here that work here and yet they live other places and we'd like to change that. It's really a passion project. I want to fulfill it for my father-in-law. He called it Sky Estates because it's a beautiful lot. If you haven't seen this, it's it's really beautiful. It's flat already. Um he left it um just flat and

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you ready to grade and go. Um unfortunately he um was going down the path of um a subdivision which requires a lot of squa a lot of cost just a lot of regulation and so after he passed away um I was involved you know helping Mrs. Neielson, she lived 104. She lived in the house. I helped, you know, remodel. It's a rental now for workforce housing. And um we we had to park it because financially you just can't you can't develop this property and be able to build on it for reasonable. And we've talked about that already here. So I found out that there's a different process I could go down and that's the process I'm in now. and that is these APNs actually are 11 parcels and these are the parcels we can build on and we went through the effort to certify the parcels as being buildable and we're currently working on lot line adjustments. So we will have a beautiful set there won't be as many houses as back then because the zoning's changed it's zoned R1 but it's perfectly zoned for the kind of housing family housing that we'd like to see there. Um, so again, this money is for us um to be able to build lots that we will sell and we'll be able to sell them at um a cost that would be suitable for people to build on. And I've talked to local builders. I've talked to builders in California nearby. We had a pre-development meeting with a a builder who asked a lot of questions. We've heard a lot about, you know, how how much the water district says they can support it. the sanitary district says there's room now in the sanitary system. It's just the engineering fees and you can see in our our proposal then the engineering and the connections just are what really drives this up. But um if this funding was granted to Reed Mandandalay, which again is our family business and we really would love to see

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this housing here, um it would go to a a company that knows how to build and knows how to get this out there. so our own employees and other people can have a home here in San Andreas. And I'd love you to see that property. It's it's um ready to go. Um I'm not sure. Well, I guess one last thing, one of the scoring you there's um three objectives and there's 25 points each. And so when I saw our score come back less than 75, I was really surprised because the first thing it says, the first 25 points is for infill housing. This is infill housing. Mrs. Neielson's house is on one side and the other houses are there. It's like right between those houses. It's infield housing. It's on Neielson Road and um we've maintained that road to to the top of that property. Um the second item, it says it's for infrastructure for affordable housing. That's the whole goal. The whole goal is to build this property so we can sell it to people who can build these houses. And the um last goal is for vehicle miles traveled. And I think you know that there is a project for the Pope Street Safe Schools route. So you'll have paths from there. You'll have sidewalks to the school. So each one of those should have gotten full 25 points in my consideration and when I looked at it. That's how I would have looked at it. So I was surprised at how low it scored. And again, I'm very passionate about this project. I'm passionate about this community. I'm passionate about my employees. We're passionate about the environment. And I don't think we have time for him. But I brought Ian who filled out the application and he's very passionate about vehicle miles traveled. So anyway, I don't know if you we'll have questions later. Thank you. Uh representative from CPU. um public comment and you you limit to three minutes and if you please

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if Miss Scotty already said it or any otherbody else that any where you support let's not repeat stuff too many times just I agree yeah exactly whatever you want yeah I apologize if there's any redundancy in what I have prepared but uh This should be

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so good morning chairs stopper and the board of supervisors. My name is Tim Oski. I'm a Calveris County resident, taxpayer, and registered voter. I'm also here representing Habitat for Humanity at Calaveris as the board president. First, I wanted to acknowledge and thank staff for significant work they've that has gone into evaluating a highly competitive REIT 2.0 process. I also want to recognize your proclamation today of May 3rd through the 9th as National Small Business Week here in Calaveris County because what we're discussing today is directly tied to the strength and sustainability of our local business community. I'm here to speak about the economic impact of Eureka Oaks project. Specifically, Eureka Oaks is a shovel ready 107 unit development that represents a strong well-levered investment in this community. Our funding stock already includes Calaveris, I mean California Energy Commission, Bank of Stockton, US Bank. During construction, Eureka Oaks will generate substantial local economic activity supporting contractors, skilled trades, suppliers, and professional services. That investment translates into real dollars circulating through our local comm community. increasing demand for lodging, food, fuel, and materials and contributing to both sales tax and transient o occupancy tax revenues. Just as important, what happens after construction? Once complete, these homes bring new stable households into our community. Families who will live, work, and spend locally. That ongoing activity supports small businesses, strengthens our workforce, and contributes to long-term economic stability throughout cons through consistent property and sales tax revenue. And this impact is not theoretical. It's already supported by our local business community. And standing here today are some of the

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Calveris County business leaders who are either directly involved in or will benefit from this project. Business leaders like Alan Cinder of Cenders Market, Dan Panell of Panel's Carpet One, Kate Allen of John Allen Construction, Danielle Perry with Bank of Stockton, Casey Vakariza from Cal Waste, and Vicky Aguilar with Plaster Title Company. Their presence reflects the real local economic value of investing in Eureka Oaks. We fully respect the other proposals before you. However, we believe the scale, readiness, and depth of economic and community impact this project delivers may not have been fully reflected in the scoring. Eureka Oaks is ready now, and it delivers not only housing but infrastructure, efficient infill development, reduced vehicle miles traveled, expanded access to opportunity, and long-term stability for working families. We respectfully ask that you reward award Habitat for Humanity Calveris the full $1,541,566.31 cents of REIT funding. Sir,

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thank you for your time. Thank you for your leadership.

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Thank Thank you very much. We appreciate the comment and you know very good. Thank you, Mr. Hospital. Good morning board. Matt Alpatel um business owner and property owner San Andreas. I think I think we all know that there is a dire need for housing and I think San Andreas is a great place to start. Um it's the county seat. You know, everybody everything's around here. It' be a great place to focus on some of this funding. Um a lot of been talked today about being ready. I think all these projects are ready. Um, I really think you guys should reconsider the staff recommendation and and maybe spread the funding out a little bit, you know, spread the wealth a little bit. Um, a few things I want to point out that looking over the applications, uh, the the first thing that I'm concerned about is the Foothill Terrace project. You know, it's been sitting for so long and I'm just afraid that it's just going to keep sitting. So, that's a that's a worry to me. They asked for money for land purchase costs. um 700,000 for land purchase cost. When I when I look at who owns it now and who it's going to, it's the same address. So that that was confusing to me. I don't I don't know what's going on there. They also asked for purchase costs for sidewalks, utilities, water and sewer. All that water and sewer infrastructure is already in the ground. The sidewalks are in the ground. So that to me is what do they need 700,000 for? But all these are great projects. Um Habitat's a great project. the Mandandalay Reed project. Great info project right here in San Andreas. Um it might not be as far along as Habitat, but it's still it's it's right there close. Um and lastly, the CPU waterline project. Being the district engineer for CPU, I think we really need to to look at this. We don't know right now, you know, the the impact of these developments what it's going to be. We think we can serve them, but

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there's going to be some improvements need to be made to the water infrastructure system. And so this would be a great spot to give the funding as well. The only unfortunate thing on that is they almost need the whole amount. You can't just build a little portion of the pipeline. So that that could be a problem, too. But until we get these developers in the door and get an application, we we need to really do a water model and see, you know, how much water these these developments are going to need. So yes, all in all, all great projects. Um, but I really think you should guys should reconsider how it's uh distributed. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Ross.

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Sir, my name is Ian Davies. I'm the environmental manager for Reed Family Companies. I'll be very quick. I just wanted to add one thing on to Margaret. Um, our project was scored um as the third overall project. However, two of the staffers actually had our project as the highest score when they scored them. And then um as a result, one staffer scored ours the lowest. As a result, we end up being third and then no funds were kind of allotted to us or recommended for us. Uh that being said, um the project's giving 10 roughly threebedroom houses um within walking distance to the Sandre Elementary School. Um it's going to have a lot of access to that Pope Street project that's going to open up a lot of um non-vehicle travel throughout the city and I just think it's a good project to uh support and that's why we're just requesting some funding that you guys see fit. So thank you. Hi, I'm Dan Panell and I am winner of the small business proclamation today and I would like to just point out that Habitat brings what we need and we need now which is economic development. Thank you sir.

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Well said Miss Ellen. Hello, Kate Allen with John Allen Construction and I'm also the president of the San Andreas Merchants Association. Um, my concern again with the Santa Loss Housing Authority project at Foothhill Terrace is when we award the 1.6 roughly million grant to them. There's really no guarantee that they'll have vertical construction, the the project could sit potentially. There's there's no guarantee on their behalf that they'll actually build. And I know that there's been a history of struggling a little bit for them to have a project that is in line with what the community and the board wants. I think their project scope has struggled historically to fit um what the community is looking for. And for that reason, I would support the the Reed project, which is single family homes, three-bedroom, two bath units that supports workforce housing. It supports family housing close to the elementary school as well as Eureka Oaks which is the same these this is housing for workers. This is helps business. It helps economic development um in Calverse County. And like Morgan said that project is going there's no question that those houses in Angel's Camp are going to be built. Um is that giving those funds to the city of angels? Technically, yes. But when you look at the overall good for our county and our community, you have to look past that and say we need to have housing built that is going to serve uh this county um and benefit all of us. Um and for that reason, I would support either of those projects. Um as opposed to a questionable project that that has had, you know, some ups and downs aligning with what the community wants here in San Andreas. Um and that's my my feedback. Thank you very much for your

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consideration. Thank you, Miss Ellen. Further public comment in the room. With that, online. Yes, we have one uh online comment. Matthew Roberts. Mr. Roberts. Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me? Yes, we can.

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All right. Good morning, chair and members of the board. My name is Matthew Roberts. I am the general manager for Calaver's public utility district. I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak today. Also, thank you hospital for your comments as well. CPU supports housing and we support responsible growth in this county. What I want to bring up is something that we see repeatedly on the utility side and I think it's important for the board to be aware of it when these funding decisions are made. A lot of housing projects move forward through the planning and the funding stages without a full understanding of what the water infrastructure is going to the cost is actually going to be to serve them. Um, one thing once they get moving the developer comes to the utility company and then they ask for estimates. At that point we provide real numbers not estimates and in many cases the cost is required the cost required to upgrade is significantly higher than what was expected. And what we see from there is the same pattern. Projects slow down. They get scaled back or in some cases they don't move forward at all. When that happens, it's not just a delay. It's time. It's a planning effort. It's public resources that get tied up on all sides. And I want to be clear that CPU is not in a position to absorb the infrastructure cost. If those upgrades are not planned and funded properly upfront, the financial impact ultimately shifts back to the rateayers and surrounding communities. That's just the reality of how these systems work. So I think it's worth looking at whether during these funding and scoring processes that there has been a real consideration of water, sewer, power, and all capacity and all costs before the projects are moved forward. I'm not telling the board how to do their jobs, but I'm asking as we continue approving and funding housing development that we start accounting for the infrastructural reality early in the process, not after the fact. Because right now, in a lot of

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cases, the cart is still getting ahead of the horse. And over time, that catches up with all of us. I encourage the board to take a look into this and consider when deciding if the infrastructure is in place and that without it, how do we move forward to build? Again, I thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you, Matt.

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You had five minutes, I think. But, um, any further online? We have no further online public comment.

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Okay. I'll bring it back to the board for any questions directly. Um, if you'd like, I'd start or you guys, your choice. I'll take I'll take this thing. Uh I heard trouble ready a lot. Um and I think all these projects could be either fairly close with plans in place. I say there's already a shuttle in the ground. It's not shuttle ready. It's being done. And then we have some time on another project. And then we also brought up a infrastructure uh project which Matt you summarized very well from my perspective. I have one question. Now that main street line is not the only I I I'll direct I'll direct it towards Matt if he's still online. If Matt could consider the question, um the infrastructure in San Andreas that you're putting in for for the money for of $800,000 to do, you know, 800 ft. Um that's not your only concern when it comes to providing water. I want to ask you about the uh straw in the cup up there uh above Railroad Flat and if there's been the extension going up to Shad Resort yet to uh draw the water from the reservoir area as has been asked in the past by the state or have you gotten an exemption on it? Um, are you still out of file each year with the state to be able to continue to serve the new customers? Because there was a time we that the county CPD was frozen

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for from providing the C customers new services because that um form with the state wasn't filled out one year or so. So, Matt, are you there to be able to answer a question? Yeah, I'm still here. So did you hear me? Yes, I could hear you.

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Thank you for the question. So there was a moratorum on on doing new water meter installations back when we were having the drought emergency within the state that since now has been lifted. So we no longer have to apply for that. So we're able to do the installs as needed um to answer that side of the questions. And then furthermore for the Shad's reservoir that's still status quo. We do not use water from Shads. Um, our water comes from the South Fork of the the McColamy. Um, and we pump it into Jeff Davis Reservoir. So, we have the capacity to feed. Um, no doubt the the the pinch point really comes down to it fireflow capacities, especially in the rural areas or down here in these communities like San Andreas for example where we're talking about. You know, these are 100 plus year old water main lines that have been in the ground for a very long time that they just don't meet the fire capacity anymore. So really, it's it's more of a broader community effort to be able to replace that so we can provide water fire flows in multiple areas throughout the town of San Andreas. So we have many many to pick out of. This is the first one that came to mind when we filled out the application.

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Yeah, thank thank you for the answer. I appreciate it because it's been a time since I've uh delved into the CPU uh infrastructure problem and so it's everyone has it. Um okay so my question on that um I have a question um of scann uh if you'd like if you don't mind exper I'll try to be lighting ask questions you do I s well it was brought up earlier um you just said earlier you purchased the property already in 2017. There's purchase price of the property in here.

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Yes. Okay. How's that work?

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So, we purchased the property in 2017. Um, in order to fully utilize the REAp uh funding, which is why we we had to resell it to ourselves under a limited partnership because that is a qualifying event and we would use the funds from REAp in order to reimburse oursel for the land purchase property. The reason that the leap funds are important is to bring the overall development cost down to get them to about a $250 sale price point, which we think is affordable in this area for first-time home buyers. As we heard, a lot of the homes are going for $400 450,000. That's a big jump from somebody that's just trying to enter the home market. So, we're trying to create something in that middle so that people can get into a home, one or two bedrooms for 250 to 300,000. So,

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excellent. but the the purchase of the property and redoing it. Now, you use stance loss money to buy it the first time and that's where you're saying you're you're reacquiring the money for for the original purchase. There's been money that's come through. See, you're uh set up as a nonprofit in a in a sense, right? It's in a sense regional housing very is a yeah public agency

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is a public agency and everything. So you the majority of money comes from funds that come through the state federal um and other other ways that public agencies receive those set funds. that that um there's been money in the past. Now, I wasn't necessarily here, but I think there's been money that's financed loss authority for certain things to be done in Calver County um in the past prior to these refunds.

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There was one uh No Place Like Home project which was on a Gold Strike property which is on the other side of the the school that's there. Um we received the funding for that. Um the board approved us applying for it. We received the funding from the state. There was some public uh push back that didn't want uh no place like home housing units next to a school. It was pulled. Yeah. So it was pulled and that the money was returned to the state. Okay. So prior that No. Okay. Understood. Thank you. That answered

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and supervisor stopper if I can please add the reap 2.0 O grant does not allow anything prior to June of 2021 um for property acquisition. So that's why the 2017 funding for not approved. This was something that was verified with HCD as part of their funding services. No, I I I understand the uh shell. Um then George George Reed you were fairly clear. I mean I I mean sorry read your you're part of the company is called what again? So I I read it multiple times. Margaret Reed and George Reed who's my husband's grandfather

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grandfather Wendel Reed who's my father passed away the company and I'm the president of George Reed. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Well, you know, um that's local company. You work around here all the time. Love the onion. Today, hey, if if you're gonna talk, please come to the podium. So, because Susan Susan's going to have me if you don't. Yeah. So, yes, we are a local business. A long time here, and we want to see housing.

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Okay. I appreciate it. I don't really have many questions. You're pretty straightforward. Um, with that all my questions are answered for right now. I can get back to the rest later. Members, any questions of the uh applicants? If not, I'll I No, I I just didn't know if we were going to go down the line. Um, I have questions. Okay.

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But I think some of them might be to staff. Um, okay. So, first on the reed project, um I understand that it has been redone that was talked about today, but I guess my question that leads into my concern about that project is there a development or subdivision map that's already gone through the planning department and or approved by the planning commission or is it just a plot of land that is being that it qualifies for that under the current zoning but has not been approved by the planning commission? I I believe that's correct. There's been no discretionary um actions, but I believe the applicant could probably speak more to if they're doing um any kind of lot line adjustments. Um that would be approved at the staff level. Um so there's no overriding planning commission approval. Um as I understand it, what they're planning to do would be allowed by right in the zone. Um they might have some parceling to do um how they want to package their pro project. They could probably speak more to that on their lot line adjustments, but I don't believe that they have any uh prior discretionary approvals and I don't believe that they really need them um for a large part of what they want to do.

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Ministerial process primarily. Correct.

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Okay, that answers that question. I guess my concern is I don't want to look at a project if there were extra um steps that need to be taken like other development type projects. Um, okay. The, um, other question I have, and this is more of a broader one because we did hear just recently from um, CPU. Um, but the other thing that has not come up in any of this is where does San Andreas um, sure stand in all of this with capacity of any of these proposals? I mean, overall, we've been having this discussion for years. This has not been a new conversation. I know there are subcommittees um but we have some great opportunity in San Andreas for development but between CPU and San San Andreas Sanitaria sanitary district. I have grave concerns that either utility provider if these these get routed to them will not be able to fulfill the capacity of these developments and necessarily the hookup. They've got other like Matt just said, you know, they've got current infrastructure issues that need to be addressed and I'm worried that that would hinder any project. to staff like when we're looking at these applicants and we're proposing this, why are we not working towards the this infrastructure to make sure that these applications are successful because that that is right now my biggest red flag as I look at foothill terrace as I look at Reed as I look at the other you know I'm listening to other projects in the San we've got some serious that we do not this board cannot control.

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And I mean, we're already looking at that issue with the hotel. So, if we can't even support a hotel, how in the world are we as a board going to support these housing? We we we thrive on smart development and growth, but we're not doing that. I feel like this is we're doing the opposite. We're saying, "Yeah, go through it." And then we're we're ultimately setting up these developers for for failure because we have not addressed and partnered better with our local utility here in this and I know that all utilities are facing this but most of it we know the investment needs to come into San Andreas and we're we're setting them up for failure. We're setting up our community for failure. So, I guess how do we how as a board member, if I'm going to make a decision, how do I know the confidence that the utility providers can provide this if we're not supporting them either? And I know CPU D has application um in here. Um but this is a broader than just that that pipeline. So, how how do I as a board member support this if this if I'm going to find out in six months neither jurisdiction neither of those utility companies have capacity and it's going to take another two years to get to that capacity

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and I don't know how you answer that but those are where my red flags are right now with any of these projects. So, this fall

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so as part of the grant process this grant was open to utility districts. Um, we did reach out, I personally reached out to San Andreas Sanitation District. They did not want to apply. Um, I can tell you that I've sat in on a couple of pre-application meetings where the utility districts were present. Uh, Reed Mandandalay was one of them recently. Um we've met I know Stannis Regional Housing or Foothill Terrace has met you know with Stan or with uh CPU as well as San Andreas Sanitation District and have been provided numbers for costs for um capacity as well as connection fees um which are rolled into the actual applications as part of the funding request. Um

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but these are oneoff that is oneoff for one project. It does not address the overall structural need of economic development in San Andreas. That's what I'm getting at is we the what what I would and maybe this is a recommendation for in the future. What I would love to see is your job to do better at getting those two utility districts in this room so we as a board can support them. So inherently the developers are more wanting to come and invest in San Andreas. It's I mean that we we know that that each application is going to be that cost, but if we put that money investment as an entirety, then we're going to be setting these developers up for more success. Um so anyway, that's that if so, do you know what San Andreas San Andreas capacity is? Are they at capacity? Do we know what that is? We would absolutely have to ask them and we certainly recommend all developers, especially affordable housing developers to uh coordinate with the local utilities early and often. And we also include them in our pre-application process to try to get that feedback early. Um how those utilities um participate or don't participate in that process is is really kind of up to them. Um, but no, I cannot speak as to the exact sewer capacity in San Andreas right now. Um, I would need the sewer district to do that.

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Barb, can I follow you up on that real quick? Can anybody here say what the number was on cost to serve and if they have a will serve in San Andreas? I can I can say Angel's Camp is already building so they have their shovel on the ground because the sewer's there. So they're calling, you know, 811 instead of seeing if they're going to get served. No, serve. But I've Okay. No, come up to the podium. That's why I'm I'm I'm asking your question. So we worked at the sanitary district very beginning of this because that's part of what shut down the cost to serve before a will serve. Oh. Oh, okay. Cost. Yeah.

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No, you I did say both, but you have either or. So anyway, we started down the path with funding um them to go to an engineering firm, but just so you know, um the house, Mrs. Nielsson's house was connected to sewer and water. So the pipes already go past there. So we have, you know, so anyway, we have some some the pipes can be out there um and understand the layout, but yeah, that's cost to serve. Did you get a cost to serve? Well, we I don't Did he give you a number that Yeah, in our budget, we put down the numbers he gave us, but I don't I'm not familiar with the toasta serve or the will serves. Okay. Well, no, the will serve is that that he saying that they will serve and that's that's final before you get the product. So, most likely you don't have a will serve. Got it.

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But the cost to serve would be what you'd have to pay. So, then it gives you serve to reserve for capacity and everything else. Yes. in case they have to expand whatever and one pipe is out there. How big is the pipe? Because that may have to be big. So with that, thank you. Thank you, Amanda. I'm sorry for interrupting, but No, no, that's okay. I

3:14:35 – 3:15:590

I just want to say that that I those are the red flags. Um, and I when I'm considering these projects, um, that's I'm going to continue to listen to what my other board members say and maybe there's new information that will change my mind. But at this moment in time, those are my concerns. I am cons I am worried about. Um I'm worried that the the the struggles with utility district that they are facing right now these would set these these projects up for for failure and I think we've got a bigger discussion at the board on how we need to go and that's for another day and time but for today's purpose um my reservations are based on the information Matt just said based on we don't know San Sanitary is and just the larger discussion of utility because if if it's going to be preliminary and we don't have as Ben said those specific words of what we're not going to see vertical in the next five years. I'm going to be leaning toward when I'm going to see vertical in the next 12 months. Miss,

3:15:56 – 3:16:220

Miss Handall, come on, Mr. Oh, well, I was just gonna let it blow down the line, but uh Mr. Mr. Hovery, you're more than welcome. Thank you. Brett, could I ask you what um if these REA funds are not spent in the county and they are spent in the city, what what what position does that leave the county in?

3:16:18 – 3:17:470

Um we can expend the funds. Um the one the one real big caveat is our arena numbers. And so with the um Habitat for Humanity project, we would not get arena credit. We could maybe negotiate um with the state and with the city city of angels after the fact to get um basically a reduction in our readin numbers for the next cycle. Um that will start in uh 2028. So, we could possibly get a reduction in future numbers, but in the here and the now, we would not get credit for our arena numbers as far as affordable housing. Um, I don't think that we would get any kind of credit um for um the Reed um family partnership as well because I don't believe they're proposing affordable housing. Um so, we wouldn't get a lot of credit there. Um but uh for the Stannis loss, we would get um Arena credit for those units. So um we would certainly if the board wanted to go with the Habitat for Humanity and and do the allocation that way, we' do everything we can to get future credit for our arena numbers. And um we believe the state would be um encou encouraging that. I think they'd be on board. Um it it might be a little bit of a negotiation with uh Angel's camp.

3:17:44 – 3:18:320

Thank you. Um I mean in in reading all of this and especially in hearing uh Supervisor Bondor pers back a few of my concerns as well. Um I think for speed, for volume, and for getting this money spent in a timely fashion, which is critical, um we really need to look at Habitat. Um we've been talking about professionals, but our service providers um our service providers, the employment of our service providers has gone down every year and I I think that that the again with the speed and the volume we are looking at something that will benefit the county overall as Kate said um in a timely fashion. So with that, pass it back to you chair.

3:18:29 – 3:18:450

Thank Thank you, sir. Um Mr. Tooff knowing you like that. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, is Matt still Matt, are you still there? Yes, he is. I can unmute him. From CPU. Yes.

3:18:42 – 3:19:180

Yes. Here. Um, what what's the time frame on this project? Because I have some concerns on it with, uh, we have our Poke Street project going to be happening early next spring. And then we have Calrans. They're starting early next spring on their projects. and and so that whole area there is going to be um under construction and paving and a lot of things happening. So, is your time frame to get this thing done? Uh, what what is that time frame if you're

3:19:17 – 3:21:160

Yeah, that's that's it's that's hard to answer, right? The direct um in a direct timeline is is a little tough. So, basically the nice part is that we already have some design done. M as Patella had shared that some of the design work has been done. So, that's a jump start on this process and if we had funding we could expedite this process and get started on it as soon as possible. and it's definitely something we should take into consideration um those other projects that you have mentioned, but it could also be a great opportunity to coordinate with these other utility companies that are currently working in the area and see if we can get some of the paving done at the same time rather than doing it in sections and segments. But, um everyone brings up a really good point and I hope I answered your question. Yeah, I I I just have the concerns that if if it's not done before couch rounds because I believe they are doing be paving certain part of Main Street that you're going to be digging that up in in a time that after it's already been done and and I know you've gone down California Street um and now it's going down Pope to Maine and Maine to St. Charles Street. Um I I just want to make sure uh because we're going to be doing California Street also in our project. Um that we're not doing it after if if this money is awarded to you. So then we end up with pavement that's just brand new u being disturbed. That's my concerns. I'm on the same page as as Supervisor Ballindorf as far as the infrastructure because every time anything comes up in San Andreas, it has to do with new construction, it has to do with the infrastructure and whether it's capacity is there or not or the cost for hookups. And so I I think we're setting ourselves up if we can't help the utility districts um when they need

3:21:13 – 3:21:540

it in order to provide service to all the projects that want to come up here in San Andreas. So, um, but my concerns again are is disturbing something that that is going to be done starting next spring and I don't know how soon they're going to get it paved because there's a lot to do that they have to do before they uh but that that's my concern that Thank you, Mr. Tooffnell. And thank you, Miss Bondorf. Uh, it's not my district, so

3:21:51 – 3:22:350

Oh, no, no, no, no. But the infrastructure, the infrastructure is the bell I've been ringing since day one, you know. Um, it's it's, you know, a problem across rural America, much less rural California with the cost of underground, like I said earlier, $1,000 a foot. It's not it's not cheap. And uh it's it's the roadblock we hit in most development in our in our area. And so we have to be pragmatic about how we move forward with our dollars, you know, because they with infrastructure they quickly become cents. So would that did you have something?

3:22:33 – 3:23:160

Um most of my questions have been answered. The one remaining that nobody else has asked is with Stannis Loss Housing. What is this new plan? What are the units bedroom capacities and how many? So, right now there's 26 units. Um there's 11 lots and we've done we'll have lot splits done on those condo association that we've done on some of our other projects. And we have um two to three of those will be two bedrooms more if we can fit them on the loss again without um going back and having to do any planning changes or anything like that using modular style units. So the other ones will be twobedroom modulars.

3:23:14 – 3:23:500

There'll be onebedroom um stick build units and then the two bedrooms will be modular units. And so we'll try and put as many as we can without having you know without uh uh triggering any potential to go back to planning and do additional reviews. But I think we can fit at least two to three possibly five twobedroom units on there. Is there something up for further? Yeah, just, you know, to beat a dead horse that doesn't fit the model too well of what San Andreas and Calver County desperately need.

3:23:48 – 3:24:400

Yeah, I understand. And part of that discussion was if we go back to redo it, we're going to redesign the entire thing. It'll add hundreds of thousands of dollars into the property, which again, we're trying to kind of keep this this project, you know, down to um a moderate level. again, $250,000 per unit, a little bit more for the two bedrooms. And then we can certainly look for other property. We do um single family subdivisions as well, um similar to what we're doing. But in this county, I would rather defer to Habitat and the other housing developers and support them in any way possible. But that would have been our preference. um we've just had this property and kind of moved down this path for so long, we have to somehow come to fruition, get some units in the county and then get some of our money back so that we can move on to our next projects.

3:24:35 – 3:25:200

Yeah, understanding that perspective. Um I guess that was my only question for you. I have one more. Um I haven't heard it this time. What happened to hand off to Sanen Authority? It's a different housing authority that doesn't have jurisdiction in this county. So, so, so they fell off because there was a conversation last time that uh I don't think was San Key. We have a Great Valley Housing Development Corporation, which is a nonprofit housing. I was okay the area. I apologize for the wrong name, but uh I worked there too, so I know him really well. And there was there was also the discussion about getting the money back for the property, working with them also.

3:25:20 – 3:25:320

Okay. I was but but uh the conversations changed so I'm just curious. All right. Um

3:25:30 – 3:27:300

I have one more comment. Um and it doesn't have to go to any of the applicants. This is actually for staff. Um as we go forward with this process, I just want to make it clear that this entire process should have been managed differently. I'm very disappointed as how we got here today. It has been no secret that infrastructure has been a priority for this board and it's been a discussion for years. So with this money, what should have been proposed to this board and I strongly encourage staff to re-evaluate how they put these proposals out into the future for this board is you need to focus on the utility companies. That is our primary focus. We cannot and we have seen it time and time again depend on development developers. They are not going to afford the cost. I am sorry. It is the reality that we are facing with development here in California. So the next time any of these types of funds I and I'm speaking for myself I have an expectation from staff to propose these money and how we are going to collaborate with our utility district. So these developers whether they are a large developer or small like the Reed family are set up for success to provide housing in this community. We have an obligation as a board even though we are not the utility provider to set this community up for economic development. If we we have no other means of revenue. We are hitting where we need to find alternative revenue and we need to set it up. So we are gaining that based on the development and not burden people with the cost associated. We can't we can't set those rates. That is the utility. But what we can do is we can help our utility partners in making it making those utility rates more affordable to keep the cost down for

3:27:26 – 3:28:130

development. If we don't partner and de put develop focus on that type of development in a roadmap, we are not going to have development in this county. And I don't mean massive subdivisions. I'm saying smart growth, these smaller time parcels that need to be developed and put put those housing units on there, whatever that looks like, and gets approved by the community that we're putting those investments in. But if we I know that we don't know where the state uh the state is going to be with budget or if we'll see these monies in the future, but I would highly encourage staff to make a different proposal in front of this board because I am not going through this again.

3:28:10 – 3:28:250

Miss Foref Ben, you might have heard me, but I don't think I'm saying this to staff.

3:28:20 – 3:30:180

I think they heard it and thank you. Um, I'll let a board member make the motion. I'd like to say something first. There's, you know, you brought up the uh infrastructure issue. It was scored lowest and it doesn't give us any points, but the CPU project is an infrastructure issue. And I'm I'm going to say that the the first and the third uh ranked proposals are good proposals. Actually, I think that they would definitely benefit the uh community center of Calver County or the the government center. It's the almost the center of Palmer County and you know uh it would give it a good faceelift and it would provide more labor to the center of the county where they can you know small businesses the government you know these there's there's need but uh the infrastructure issue, the hurdles, the planning, and I know we aren't getting points, but I I agree with you, sir. We might find Look, if we might ask for forgiveness after on this one, you know, because I'm willing to do it because I see success already with a shovel in the ground, but I personally would think about splitting those funds two different ways to get infrastructure done and something to habitat. even though they weren't the top decision, but that's I'll let another board member consider that and possibly make a

3:30:16 – 3:30:590

motion, but that that's where I'm standing right. Thank you, chair. I'd like to go forward and put a motion on the table that we award the full amount to habitat going forward. We have a motion. Second. We have a second. Roll call vote starting on Martin's side. District three. I District two with reservation. I District four. I District one. No. District five.

3:31:00 – 3:31:400

I totally support the habitat with the full amount. I think the infrastructure thing would be a good split. Do we get it with three votes? Okay. I'm only going to vote no because I think it would be more pragmatic for the infrastructure, but you're still making the right decision. So that's my call vote. So it passes on a three two vote of the board for Martin's motion. We got that.

3:31:38 – 3:31:560

Thank you everyone for being here today and I know that the last couple months has been um trials and tribulations and I hope that um the next time the county has an opportunity that this is um laid out differently for all of us.

3:31:54 – 3:32:380

I want to thank everybody coming here too today. Um it's very difficult decision put before this board on spending the funds that are available to us. Um I again am as I brought up earlier the infrastructure issue here in San Andreas is a very difficult situation and again it it is a situation to where every time I get a developer wants to come here and do something it's a setback because infrastructure um also looking at this needs to be done and and I'm my concerns are all the other projects are going on are they going to get it come in and have to do it because it's done after those projects. So that was my concern about awarding this money to them. But why I voted no.

3:32:39 – 3:33:350

I voted with reservation because I think um all these projects were great and could definitely help us read family. I would love to see that develop. And I um fully um agree with Supervisor Fallenorf about the infrastructure. We have to address this. It is a major problem specifically in San Andreas. Um, and I appreciate what Habitat's doing. I think it's fantastic. Um, I'm looking forward to West Point developing. Um, it's painful to see the arena numbers go to the city with the county and I would like staff to please, um, you know, initiate those conversations with the city sooner than later on the potential credits on that. and Santa los. I know it's been a long, long road, but I just can't support one-bedroom units next to our elementary school, our parks, our government center. Um, it's not a good fit. And so, thank you all.

3:33:32 – 3:34:160

M Martin, I'll let you go. Stan loss, contact staff. Maybe we can work something else out for the future and then work on other things because we aren't we aren't we aren't necessarily done. Mark actually cherry you just said this ultimately I think yeah sorry uh these are all really amazing projects that we could be able to go forward pushing and promoting these and making them happen. That's it. Okay. Um, you know what? I need a five minute break. If you're okay with that, thanks for talking to this.

3:42:41 – 3:43:060

We're ready. I'll turn on mine. Ready. All right, Miss Simpson, we just got done with I believe 19. So, can we move on to number 20? An action item. Item 20, action item, integrated waste management. Direct integration management man integrative waste management to pause the commercial parial cost of service study.

3:43:06 – 3:43:520

Morning more. Uh Micah Martin, interim integrated waste director here to support this item. Uh this item again is a request to pause the commercial rate study as directed by the board about this time last year, June of last year. we were directed to uh you know pursue this effort to evaluate the commercial fee study. But as we're getting more and more involved into it, we're realizing there's much more that needs to be looked at operationally with the cost of our operations and and other opportunities that have presented themselves. So we're requesting a pause this item at this time until more information could be gathered and have a more thoughtful look at how our commercial fees should be established.

3:43:47 – 3:44:320

Thank you, Micah. Um, if uh I could uh hear any public comment, I'll bring it back to the board with any questions and a motion. Public comment. Anything online? We have no online public comment. Any questions from the board? Any I'll entertain a motion. I'll move for staff's recommendation. I'll second. We have a motion by uh supervisor folder, a second by supervisory. All those in favor I and none opposed passes on 50 vote of the board. Thank you Micah. That was easy,

3:44:29 – 3:45:080

straightforward on the agenda. Like that short and sweet, Stacy. Item 21, action item, integration management one, establish ad hoc committee, which shall terminate on December 31, 2026 to participate in discussions and potential negotiations related to the county's franchise hauler agreement and to appoint two board members to serve as the ad hoc committee. Right. So, uh, we'll start off with anything you have to say, sir.

3:45:06 – 3:45:400

No. And just to to add, you know, like the previous item, as we discussed, there's a lot more to take a look at. Um, part of one of the recommendations for pausing that is to also take a look at this and potentially form this ad hoc committee. Um, that could help us convene on evaluating whether or not we want to do a contract extension for the current contract contract or entering renegotiations and also the other considerations that should be made regarding the fee study and other potential operational changes. Excellent sir. Any public comment?

3:45:43 – 3:46:260

Uh Casey Vakareza Cow Waste Franchises Hall here within the county. Um you know we we're here to to help the county. Um we're here to assist and be a good partner which I think we have been for a number of years now since we came up here. Um, we understand that, uh, there's some issues with IWM and funding and, you know, we've informally talked. I think uh, um, Supervisor Andal and and Toanelli, we've had some informal discussions of something that we, you know, could help IWM out and, um, you know, we want to continue to have that conversation with you guys moving forward and we really look forward to extending our contract with you guys. Excellent. Thank you. Any further public comment?

3:46:24 – 3:47:080

We have no online public comment. Okay. And then uh I just want to say we appreciate the the partnership we've had so far and look forward to what we work out in the future w with Cal Waste. Um and I'll just say the board I'm interested in the ad hoc committee. I've had my hand in an integrated way since the very beginning and before. Um, not to say I have any more experience than anybody, but uh, I've been putting in the good work and I would like to continue to put in the good work in this this endeavor. So, I just ask council, how does this work? Can we

3:47:07 – 3:47:510

Sorry. How does this work? Do we nominate or um yeah or I guess I would just say like if someone wants to make a motion, you know, as to who the two members should be and then that would need a second just like anything else. Or um if someone wants to make a motion on the fir I guess you could do it in one or two stages. It would be up to you. Supervisor tolly, are you interested? Yes. Yes, I am. I would I would then just go for um Well, is anybody else actually can't back to the chair? Sorry. I'm also interested um I have had some conversations and I would uh be interested in learning more and continuing those discussions.

3:48:02 – 3:48:320

I I'm going to get killed over this. I will since the conversations with have already been happening. I would make a motion to allow supervisor tolli and endall to continue the conversations they've already had with Cal. We have a second. I'll second that. We have a first and second. All those in favor I.

3:48:29 – 3:49:080

Those opposed passes on 50 to the 50 vote to the board. Thank you. Supervisor's announcements and compliance with government code section 53232.3D. Board members shall provide brief reports on any meetings attended at the expense of the local agency and may make other announcements or report out. Mr. Robert,

3:49:05 – 3:50:330

thank you chair. On the 15th, what is wrong today? Um, on the 15th of this month, I attended the resource partnership meeting. On the 17th, I met with PG&E and I uh did a half tour of the Tiger Creek Powerhouse, which is important for our MAC project. On the 18th, I attended the Douglas Flats fundraiser. They were very thankful for the um uh donation that they received. On the 20th, the ES ESN network, which we are still trying to grow, um is doing very well. On the 23rd, I attended the fire safe council meeting. On the 25th, um we lauded Steve Ladderback, and he's an amazing individual. Um he is a um he's he's a pretty much a an icon of district 3, the upper highway 4 corridor. Um his decades of of contribution to the uh Arnold Rim Trail. And then yesterday I attended with the supervisor and all the strategic planning meeting and I just wanted to take a moment and do a little show and tell and I know this is ridiculous but the ladies set up a loom at the museum and each visitor over the last two years put one line in there and I just thought it was a really cool way and seeing as it's in your district I wanted to give it to you. Excuse me while I throw it at you. You don't you don't need us. You don't need it now, but it's it's it's a cool thing and we set it up again that represents a lot of people that came and and really learned about Calver's history.

3:50:39 – 3:51:020

Okay. Um on April 24th, I attended the Upper McCall River Watershed Authority meeting. On April 25th, I attended a Firewise meeting in West Point. On April 27th, yesterday, I attended strategic planning commission and later in the day, the central Sierra child support agency meeting.

3:51:03 – 3:52:590

Okay. Um last week I attended a town hall in Cape. Uh CEO was also there. Um the focus was on um noctous weeds and um the plan uh going over the uh plan uh lack of plan um that TRIM has provided so far. Um and what that timeline would look like with uh the folk with the folk uh regulations. Um, a lot of good feedback came out of that town hall and I hope that triam um hears those. Uh, Saturday on the 25th I attended Cattleman's um uh the sheriff was there as well and she and the president of the California Cattleman's Association discussed um uh wolves. Um and with that we have a meeting here in Colorado County on June 10th on wolves and apex pred predators mount lions. Um uh it will be hosted by the UC extension. It will be right over here in the overflow room and it will be from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. Um if you're unable um to make the June 10th meeting um there is a June 9th meeting in Amodore County. at the same time. Um, and uh the uh please check the UC extension. Um, they have that posted and I believe our I believe Jesse also has it posted on the website on the county website um and on the um ad department. I have camera this Thursday. Um and then Micah spoke already about the cow turns town hall on the May 6. due to that meeting. Our COG meeting will now be on May 7th at 5:30 p.m. So, uh to

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accommodate the culture and town hall on the 6 and that's all I have.

3:53:06 – 3:53:470

They brought up everything. So, I attended meetings and nothing else. This Saturday, May 2nd, is kids fishing day in Murphy's. Get your kids up there. The creek's going to be full of grout. It's going to be a blast. I'll have hot dogs, soda, and chips. Y'all, thank you for a great day. Good job today. And uh until next time. Same bat channel, Stacy. Thank you, Sarah. Do you have anything? Our beloved CEO?

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