Town Council - Regular Meeting

Okay, today is March 10th, 2026. Time is now 7 p.m. This will be the monthly meeting for Burlington Town Council. Uh those present are Jared Gold, myself, Kevin H. Go ahead and open this meeting and first is going to be approval of minutes. Make a motion to approve the minutes. Jerry makes a motion to approve the minutes. I will second that motion. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. The second on the agenda is paying the claims.

I'll make a motion we play the town of Queens. Second motion J made a second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. It will be the Burlington Marshall report here. Make a motion accepted. Marshall second. Make a motion. J second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. Next will be tal Steve. Well, I got Indot to agree with me on the project out there on 22. So, we don't have to move our sewer line.

They finally agreed to it. Yeah. I'm really shocked. I was already doing pretty good. That's good. Way to stand up. And uh so you can you can pay me what I say to send you a check. Yeah. Uh we got our flow meters put in out the plant. Got that all hooked up, ready to go. Um, we had to change a pump out on the cut road been last Friday. Mhm. And so I got to I'm going to order a couple pumps. So I have some spares. Is there anything we can put on there just to catch it before it gets to the pump?

You can't really slow the flow down. It'll just plug up in the screw. No, that's true, too. Yeah, it has them flushable wipes and pump up and we're going to send out some letters cuz it was just 11 oz on that. All right. So, going to do that. See if that'll help. Let's see what else there. Well, that's what I said. I'm going to get a couple thumbs so we have spare. I'm not a spare. No, that's fine. I'll probably just deal with that same company so I can get the same thing so it'll match up. A lot easier that way. Yeah.

Are you sure? Other than that, I think that's about it. Are we doing pick up or anything? Yeah, we'll be doing them April. April 1. What we decided first? Well, if it's for April, probably should be done because then I'll get that out in the April sewage bills, which would be the end of this month. I don't know yet. I think last year it was around the 18th or 19th or something like that. Then the dumpster was the first May.

Mhm. put Jonas, but I just knew it was coming up. Yeah, it was coming up too. I didn't think it was.

You still had your part time? Well, I don't know since he's working over at the jail, I guess. Oh, he caught on with the jail. Well, that's what I heard. You can believe it or not. I don't know. Right. I'd say either the 17th till the 24th of April for the stick pick up the one doesn't matter to me. You want to do it later in the month like the 24th. We can work April 24th. Might have to do it tomorrow after tonight. That's supposed to be feeding. It looks like everything's going north.

You want to do the dumpster now or wait till the next meeting see if they're available. Yeah, I'll have to call them. You guys get through it. gave us pretty good deal. Yeah, pretty good deal. So, if are you looking for like the first and second of May or Yeah, one of them on Friday, right? Cuz they'll be full the Friday evening if they bring Friday morning.

So, you'll check on that availability. Yeah, I'll check with them and see. We should build one of them days of work. Okay.

Jamie, are you here for anybody?

Okay, we'll move on to our guest, Larry Hayes. Larry Hayes. Nice to see everyone here. I used to be around the town a little more than I have been lately when I had the antique store down there. Uh, and now the building's a lot happier than it was then. Um, I own the bank. I've been trying to sell it with no success and the price that kept lower and lowering to the point where it's just too good a building to sell for any less. So, I'm trying to think of what I can do to generate some income. The ATM has been beneficial to me, but uh needs a little more than that to even break even. So, I thought about putting some storage units across the west property here in back of the building. 26 or 29's out here. So, I'm 25 ft set back on the end here from the side street. 5 ft off the property line, off the alley, and 5 ft off this property line. And I still end up with a 20 by 100 building with 10 units. The the building will be constructed as a full barn. Here's the drawings. What it look like? Seen one. You see a million of them. But so I wanted to ask permission to do that. uh or at least start the process of getting gaining permission. Then while I'm here, I wanted to talk about the rest of the building, what I can do with it. So, uh if I can't sell it, I got to figure out something to do with it. I'm going to try leasing it next

and I'm try to make a rent attractive so that somebody will come in. Mexican restaurant would be great for you guys and and for me. And I've even gone to a Mexican restaurant and tried to explain to them an opportunity out here, but

nobody's got any money to go out on the venture right now. So, I thought about uh I mean, I've had people say, "Put two or three condos in there." And I wanted to know what I'm not saying I'm going to do that, but obviously I'm not going to do it without permission, but I wanted to see how you felt about it. I wanted to see what my options are, what what I can do with the building. Is that non-commercial? That's what I was going to ask. I talked to I talked to um Mike today was my understanding. I don't know that you can do residential, but you say what?

I talked to Mike, the area plan commissioner. He said he talked to you. Oh, yeah. over in Deli. Over in Deli cuz I was asking him about the zoning questions for tonight and I I thought his I don't know about any residential units going in there. Okay. Because it's being zoned commercial, but but I would say that would be that's I mean you could get it reszoneed, but that's not technically what you say. You can try to get it reszoneed. Yeah. But you would have to then you would have to have a split because you'd have both. You would have stored residential and then the storage units would be commercial. Oh.

So you would have to that's complicated. Could be. Yes. Is that all one parcel? Well, I really don't want to put apartments in there. No, I'm just saying anything. I'm just saying it's still possible to do. It's just there's a lot of steps you would have to go through to get it done. I visit the uh oh the Mexican restaurant over there in Galve Weston. Yeah, I probably eat there two to three times a week. Um they've got one that's up north. Uh you know where that's at. The one up north. Yeah, I don't remember. Maybe Wbash maybe. Okay. Um maybe try talking to them.

Who what's the name of that? Um, I can't remember the owner's name, but I talked to the two guys that are that basically run that one, and I've told them numerous times like it would be a, you know, a great location to have that. Yeah. Not everybody wants one here. Yeah. From what I hear, be there two or three times a week here. Yeah. Cuz the realators that that I had list the place, I think, came and talked to you guys for a consensus of what could be. Yeah. Scott. And the the boat was Mexican restaurant. Yeah. So, hey Larry, is that all one parcel down there? Huh? Is that all one parcel? There's five blocks there. There is, but it's

that might make diffic Yeah, there's five lots. I'm not sure how they're ranked, but but there are five lots. So, for starters, I wanted to see if we could get permission to do this building. And then, you know, I've already mentioned other possibilities with the bank building. Last but not least is climatized storage, right? Scott had mentioned that. That way, it's still a commercial building and can be emptied out and put back into service at a later date. Nothing's changed, you know.

Sure. Of course, the same with the apartments, you can tear everything out, too. But, uh, so, uh, I noticed there's already a lot of storage units down here, but I sort of took inventory of saw four or five of them without padlocks, so there's still a need, you know. So, Well, I've got a great big dry basement, you know, like a 12t ceiling. It's it's it's a heck I don't know if you ever been in them, but it's a heck of a building. Yeah. Plus, you got a vault.

Somebody got a gun collection, you know. Yep. Those shelves down in the basement there. I built those. Huh? Those shelves in the basement. I built all those. They're all gone. Yeah. I had I had the building abaded and they tore everything out of there. Nothing was left cuz there was there was a mold issue in there from when it set empty and water. There was a bunch of carpet and stuff down the basement got wet. Nobody ever took it out. So I cost a fortune. But I had the building abaded. So they took the shelves. Man, those guys love all the 1 by 12s.

I didn't have time to mess with it, so I let them have it. They took all the file cabinets out of the basement and all that stuff down there. Yeah.

So, I want to see if we can get permission to build the storage units. I wanted to see if if I could put climatized storage in the building. That's one option. Uh leasing the building out is another the next thing I'm going to try. Take the for sale side down, put a le for lease sign. Uh the way the way we got the painted pony building going is we gave the church a real load rate. Got them in there, got them started. And that's what I would do here too, just because anything just to get it up and running. I'd make it real attractive for somebody and then do that for a few years until they got going and then adjust the rent then. So, and I'm open to any other suggestions. As far as I'm concerned, as long as it falls in the zoning, I have no problems with you putting the storage units in there.

This Okay. And then whatever you do with the building, as long as it falls into the zoning, again, I would love to see a business go in there. Love to see a restaurant go in there. Yeah. I mean, it's be ideal. Yeah. For the town and the building, right? And somebody would do really good, you know, I I think so. So, I'm not going to do anything any more than this right now. And I'm just throwing out some ideas here to see how how how you feel about it.

That's how I feel. I don't know how you feel, but I'm fine with that. So, kind of the apartment idea would be something that could happen with a lot of work. Yes. The climatized storage could happen. It's already zoned for commercial. So, Okay. and leasing it out to whatever whatever the business would be would probably be presented to you guys anyway, but it's still zone commercial, so you'd still be fine with that. So, okay. Another another option just to keep the rent down would be to divide the building and have two two units in. That's that's that would be okay, too, right?

Okay. And I did get a building permit for this from Carol County. So, uh, like I said, I didn't I'm not wasn't going to do anything until I talked to all of you. Mhm. Long as you follow all the steps and do everything correct, I have no issues with it. Okay. You want this? No, we don't need it. Okay. We trust you. Okay. All right. I'll keep an eye on you. We got Steve. You negotiate with the states. You guys got a key to the building. What building? The bank. No, I don't. Oh, I got the combination.

When they moved out of there, they left all the keys to every door marked where they go. And even the combination. At least that was nice of them to do that. It was nice of them. Yeah, cuz they could have just said, "Hey, I'm out of here. It's your problem." I'm going to say it's up to you to figure it out. I've never uh I've never tried it, but but I do have the combination. So, okay. Are you done with me then? I'll I think so. Yeah. Okay. Nice seeing everybody. Good luck to you. See you, buddy. Okay. See you. Okay. You guys have a good evening.

You too. Okay. We will move on to new business. Uh February 2026 payroll docket. Make a motion to approve the bucket. Motion by Jer. I will second that. All those in favor say I. I.

I. Motion carries. Next is discussion of software upgrades which I assume is caring. Yes, I gave you a couple sheets.

Right. So the company we've been using I think since was 05 06 and um they did a major upgrade around 2017. Then they were hoping to go to cloud-based cuz right now everything I have to do backups on um flash drives and uh so it's on the computer. So they wanted to move to cloud-based well they weren't able to do that. So they partnered with a company called BSNA. So BSNA is they're the cloud platform. They're I believe based out of Michigan. One of the reasons I was looking there were two main reasons was that it would be cloud-based so backups would be better than just the flash drives.

My goal has always been or you know hopefully that people could look up their wastewater bill online and pay it if they wanted to. Um, I was really hoping for that, but the issue is the price. So, as of right now, last year, which is why I have this second page here, last year, our total cost was a little under $6,500 for all of the programs. There's four four programs that we have. Of course, utility is paid 100% out of the wastewater and then I do a percentage split between the others because they're used for both the town and the waste water.

The concerns come in with um that with this new platform going up to 11 or 12,000 which it was 16 but then it went I don't know it gave me 11 or 12,000 cost. So that's an increase. You could expect about a 5% increase every year. And then just to transfer the data over, if you look at this second page, so this isn't a full quote because I don't think he wanted to really give a full quote unless we were really serious about this, but there's a migration cost that they're waving until June 30th. And that's 25 to $30,000 to migrate everything over. And that's waved. They don't they don't charge you that. But then he said the training cost, you see that is 1225 a day with an average of 24 days. And I spoke to Jared. Jared came in one day and I spoke to him and he had a really good point. I mean that's that's almost that's over $29,000 for training. Well, that's just for one person because I'm a oneperson office,

right? That just seems astronomical to me. Um, and I know there's a lot of cities and towns that are moving this way, but for a town of 600 people, to me, that's that's just a tremendous amount of money. Is your training online or do you have to

I I think it's in person. I believe so. Um they are going to continue to support Keystone for approximately 7 to 10 years. So if we did nothing and we stayed with them as they are, they will support it. They're not they would only do like required upgrades like the state law changes or um they would do that. There are some glitches I'm experiencing now that I don't know if they would ever fix or not. They're not too bad. Um, but I just I at least wanted to bring this up to you. Um, I know and this software seems to be very nice. I mean, it has all the bells and whistles to it.

Well, it should, right? But, you know, my concern is for a town of 600 people. I will say, you know, I've heard from back in the day when they switched from paper to computer. I think some people were very much against that at that time. But I will say having a computerized um system for everything that needs to be done here is wonderful. I would not want to do it on the old notepads. I I just wouldn't. To me, that would be very cumbersome. Is that a contract you have to sign with them for so many years?

We have an annual lease agreement with Keystone. For us, it's around August. So, if they had ever run fiber in town, you could always just go to that and not have that anymore, right? No, that has nothing to do nothing fiber coming in. Nothing to do with your internet. M I mean it's internet based. Yeah. But it's their cloud storage and then it's their program. So you're paying for that. Is there other software companies out there that we could look into?

There is one that I was thinking about. Flora utilizes them and I did ask and I do believe they have some online stuff uh where you could pay your bill. So if you know we didn't if you guys we didn't go this route then I wouldn't do it right away but eventually we would probably have to look at another option. You know my my thinking is is there has to be somebody out there who understands the needs but the budget concerns of small towns that do not have the budget to take on this. and then all the other requirements that we're supposed to do based on new laws being passed. I mean, I kind of get on a little soap box with it, but you know, these laws are things keep keep getting passed, things we have to do that we have to spend money on. And so, all of that adds up.

I mean, the training cost alone, you know, is $29,400. Obviously, sending you there to do that, I mean, you're going to have to take a ton of notes. And not to mention, you know, god forbid something happens to you or whatnot. I bet they send somebody here. I would think they would send somebody here, but just like what you said, what happens? What happens? Successor. Yeah. Is that another $29,400 for the next person? You know, it would be I don't know. That blew me away when he said that. It really shocked me. That's a lot of money a day. Yeah, I don't understand that for training. That's just crazy.

And it was it it felt like it was a little expensive for Keystone at the time, but nothing nothing compared to to this. And I don't know if that's the normal. I don't know if that's, you know, for a bigger office, but that's what he gave me. So that's what we have to go off of. So essentially, we be paying a 11 to$12,000 more than what we pay now. Um You're all you're at 64.90 currently. Okay. So that's what it was this year. And on this Excel sheet, you can see I went back all the way to 2012. I've kept a record of what we've paid every year.

$153 an hour for an 8 hour day. That's pretty good pay. You make it. Yeah, I wish. I don't even make that in a week. build technology. So if it was 12,000, it would be 5,500 more a year. Was a 5% increase for the next 5 years. Yeah. And you can see, I mean, I kind of did a percent increase, it's gone up and down. Obviously, every year there's an increase to what we are already paying, but it's been more manageable.

Wait a few more years to go up. things are going, right? Who knows? And then in the back of my mind, I thought about that, too. And then I thought, well, maybe there might be more products out there to more competition. More competition,

right? That's probably what I work at is look at other software companies or have you talked much of Florida to them about what they use? I don't know much about it. I just know that they've used it for years and I I know from being on the email with other clerk treasurers that there are other small towns that are having the same concerns that we are. That was one of the things that was wonderful about Keystone is that it felt like it was uh a champion for the smaller units of government. I just at least want to present that to you right now. So you got some information.

Okay. appreciate you looking into all that. Next up is the nuisance on Michigan Street properties. You're just done.

You want help? I don't I don't know what we No, what we found out the other day is his boy Donald, he uh owns or in the will. He got everything that was outside the house that's on the property on 19 Michigan. Yeah. Did Yeah, I sent you that. I sent you the See, we just been sending that letter to that kid that, you know, we got the houses. We thought he had everything. So the kid has the houses, but yeah, that got the houses and then all the everything that's outside was admitted

on 19 Michigan, which is the one I do live in. And then you have that back parcel, man. There's three parcels down there. Okay. Excuse me. Just whatever you want to do, send a notice as the property owner. Just because he got the right to that property, the personal property on the yard doesn't mean nothing. But the personal property outside the yard is part of the problem because it's sitting out there and it's junk and it cleans up. He just needs to clean it up. And

so I guess the question becomes who do we send letters to? Do we need to send a letter to the son? Because supposedly outside of 19 Michigan, that's his stuff. And then also to the the property owner or it it's it's up to the property owner. I mean you could send to both. It doesn't hurt anything but send them to both. But um it's really the property owner's responsibility. He would be the one that would have to go to court.

Yeah. I mean he he's the one that is responsible for us to us as the property owner which is Zachariah. So if if we ended off let's say the letter was sent no response was received and then it was decided that we the next step would be pursued which we'd have to discuss that of getting a company to come in and clean that up and then charging them for that. then that would go to the property owner and then if it wasn't paid then it would go on as a lean who pays a contractor

we would and then we that's when we would have to do a build I'm not for sure I don't remember if we have to quote that out if we had to do that I don't remember on that yeah I just read through again it was you can do it in charge Or we could quote it out as town employees or or we could do it by the public bid. So would we have cuz we were talking that if that would happen he's he it would be hired. Okay. So if it were hired out how would we would that have to be in the newspaper or how would that have to be done? Yeah. Just the purpose or just like we do with any other public bid

on the vehicles down there. Do we have to have enough check to see if we're stolen or anything like that before we have them removed or So, uh, well, I hate to go about that. Rub the plates. It would hurt the plates. I don't know if they all got plates on the motorcycle. You can run them by the end. Yeah. How do you dispose of them without the tile? That's whoever cleans it up responsibility on earth. They can just chunk them.

Yeah. There's places that'll take your car off your lot. Pull up and take it. You got company fire dogs, you know, they'll clean up properties, but I don't know if they do vehicles. Yeah. Well, we're way down the road on that. You know, we need to there's quite a few steps to take before we get there,

right? So, but it would be the property owners who it would be up to him to tell his brother to get his crap out of there. But we're not responsible for that mess. We're not responsible for that debate or that's not our tie from the Burlingtons is tied to that property and the property owner. The property owner is responsible for keeping his place clean. He may if if he lets the stuff get taken by us and we do our stuff properly and his whatever with their brothers or whatever. But brother technically abandoned it on the property. You know it hasn't been cleaned up. Yeah. How long has this been going on? Like how long he's been dead?

This is what the third year. Third year at least. I don't I don't know if he was. See, we sent letters to Zachariah last year. I don't remember when. And he did come in there and started mowing out front there and and done a couple tree. That about it. And now there's another truck down there. It don't have any plates on it. Is it for sale or is it just Well, there's somebody else parked that truck there. I don't think that white. Yeah, I think it might be the neighbor. I think but there's that Dodge pickup sitting there. It don't have any plates on it and it come in there over the winter. Uh he passed away in 2023. Yeah.

But our first step says we we were talking and that we would send a letter. We would we would give an extended amount of time because we know this is not more than the 10 days because I think the ordinance says that you could and then if that doesn't happen then we would go to the second step of probably trying to then get somebody bid out to do the work if if I if those steps are in line with what can you put all the steps that are that will be taken in the same letter well there's this letter that he formatted that we send out

normally. Normally what we have done is we we normally do a a pink slip basically say hey you know please mow your yard cuz most of the time it's mowing yards but in this case they it's already been discussed so we have to send a letter certified and then I think it becomes final 10 days after service I forget how the language is and then after that time within 10 days. Let's see. But we can make the time longer cuz I remember reading the ordinance. It said we can extend it, I think, if we wanted to.

So, I talked to the kid last fall, Zachariah, and I asked him, I said, "What's your intentions with the property?" He said, "Well, I'd like to sell it, but I got to talk to the family." But he owns it. He owns it. Yeah. Yeah. Sell it. That's what That's what I did. has ever come in or anything. Yeah, he can be in the top. I mean, I don't know what's got going on this family, but technically he's the owner. So, yeah. Legally, you can sell it.

So, if we send out the letter and we do not get any response, then is it something we can come to you and go, okay, what's the next thing we need to do? You help us get that figured out. Is that something where you just write a letter to them or something or call them or Well, the letter would have already been done. Well, I mean, I might have a little more teeth coming from my attorney. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know either about that. People would be more tire.

Right. You mean after that 10 days, can we start looking for companies to clean it up? Well, I'd give more time for that, but we can Yeah, we can extend to days or something. We give them 30 more.

Yeah. I mean, we didn't plan a time last year, but we had a lot of complaints about broods and I've seen where grandma I've seen grandma here before that you can't get a picture. They take off when you stop. Have we done these yet? As far as actually brought in somebody an out outside person to clean up the property. No, always in the past it's usually him mowing and then we build. Yeah. Small stuff before it's really the biggest biggest thing we ever had to do

cuz we had some other properties. I don't remember what happened on Fifth Street. Did we have to get a dumpster for that? No tires. Yeah. We just went in there and cleaned up what we could. All the stuff still in the house

that well that one property that was an ordinance violation that they went through the county that when Terry was here that went through the county at that point and you were involved in that but that was the one time that happened. That was a while ago. Good times, right? So, yeah, it's just send out the notice. So, when you see them again notice and you can see what happened.

Yeah. Service. I just tried to serve it in person. Is everybody living there? No. This guy lives Zachariah the way he lives in Deli. Can we get service on as far as what when you normally told us to to post it at the place and then also certify mail is what you'd always told us before, right? Can we get service? Yes. If he lives in Dela, we got say the way we got a hold of him before was through his caretaker. Those were the the people listed in the documents as the trust. We never had a phone number for him, but now he's an adult. Right. Right.

But I believe he still lives with them. We do not have a phone number directly for them. The the caretaker when he was a minor, that's who's paying the sewage bill and um who we've talked to, but the reason for the guardianship was that he was a minor at that time. Yeah. So, it should have dropped off. Yeah. He graduated.

So, somebody get get into them, make sure that their notice has the templates so we could assess our dollars a day and all that. Although I probably would just put a copy of the ordinance in there. Okay. With that if But you're saying that you would prefer that be like physically handed to him in Deli? Well, at least that we have proof of service. So either physically handed to them or they have to sign certified mail with a lot of times they don't sign for

signing for it. So well it just so happens our account marshall lives in our adult life. So that helps. Yeah, we could get him personally served. That's going to help a lot of issues, potential problems we know last part come out and walked around property, looked, he said they did the same road. Well, you're not going to see any rodents when you're walking around there. Yeah, it scares them off.

Pulling in the car around. Yeah, they're gone. And they didn't see any hazardous material laying around anywhere, they said.

So, we have abandoned vehicles in a high grass in the summer. Yeah, there's just stuff everywhere. All kinds of stuff. Just garbage. All right, the camper sitting back there. Okay. All right, let's start the process. See what fun we can have. All right, you make some people happy. No, we've been bringing in Barry. It's yours time.

Did you want to ask them about the wipes? Remember we talked about if there's anything that can be done legally or I don't know those disposable wipes. Unless potential of setting a trap or something off the industry way to put a filter traps. I was saying if we put a screen down in there, you're going to be constantly down there clean that thing out. It just catches them. They don't deteriorate. That's the problem. Can you catch them though? It will come and know which house it's coming from. That's what I'm saying. There's no way to put a trap to the lines t they're not always have a manhole or nothing.

They just tie into the main. But yeah, there's no way to trap it. Without that, I don't know what we can do. Put mean language in your billing. She's We're going to pass the cost on to everybody. Don't rise. She's got a mean letter type. That's what I'd say. Divide the cost between 11 houses and Yeah. Speak up. Yeah. You could at least can pinpoint it till there's 11 and send them a special letter. We can on this one. Yeah. Recently, tell them what happened. to burn up the thing and we will assess the equal. I think that's about fair. She does have a letter written up for those 11 houses.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yes, we will be Do we need to you have to look at it? We will be sending them. It doesn't It just says that just don't It's got our name on it. What is it? Like some kind of just a white wipe like a wet wipe. Wipes. Yeah. They don't they don't deteriorate enough when the pump hits them and they just turn the screen then they just start wrapping. Yeah, it's a mess. That's what's called motor. I talked to my safety meeting I went to talked to some guy down in Indianapolis. Mhm.

And working with sewer plant down there. They haul three triacs loads a day of just white. Oh, that's why I don't know why they can't get some kind of legislation to want to ban them things. Wow. Or at least they they can't flush them. Wait, why do they say flush? Them packages you look at, they say flushable wipes. Well, they flush. They do flush. They need to reordered or something. I mean, it's it's a bad problem. Wow. Even I didn't know that. Yeah. And that's been shoot that last meeting probably eight years ago.

Any other miscellaneous visits? Just the the safety on Michigan Street. Again, of course, I have the perspective. I have my house on 1313 northbound. They're going 60. The one I mean, not all of them do. I'm just it's, you know, there's some people that follow the law, but if they're the ones that are going 60, they're they're hitting their brakes when they come to college right on the curve there. Then they they decide that's when they need to slow down. That whole stretch is supposed to be 35 m an hour and they're doing 60. Yeah.

And then on this the uh down at the American house, it's not it's not much of an issue, I don't think, down here. It's it's more people Somebody's going to get hit. Yeah, we will uh I will address that with the town marshal, but we need to step up some traffic. It's just uh it's a safety thing. Now, I'm walking I'm walking on state property, but you know, I walk the sidewalk and of course my house doesn't have sidewalks, so I'm walking. It's dangerous. I mean, I I've been here what, 30 almost 30 years, and just the last couple years, it's gotten really bad. The people just they're on their phones. They're not paying attention. Well, the traffic's really And I remember I stopped in Karen's office. When was it? A couple months ago, a little bit ago,

there was a a dump truck. He was northbound, which would be south of me across. He almost hit the tree. Uh, I don't know what property that would be like,400 block across the road and just down. And he the last second overcorrected. And if there's a car in the other lane, he would have slammed into them, but he didn't. And I'm doing this trying to because I was walking. He just kept going down. He didn't slow down. And he almost almost had in head on to that trail and that he wasn't going speed limit either. This is observation, you know. No, I agree. But that's always going to be an issue. Oh, yeah. I mean, unfortunately, it's a it's just gotten worse.

The traffic I think has gotten worse. I'd like to see how many cars are going through. Yeah. We checked it back then a few years ago. Yeah. 76,000. All right. And I can sit on my front porch and there'll be there'll be a spring. That was that was a month. Yeah. Months. Yeah. There'll be like 15 minutes where everybody's been steaming the next thing you know there whole bunch just it comes in spells. But yeah, we will address that with the time. need to pick it up a little bit, especially since anything else.

I make a motion that we close this meeting. Second. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries.